Ladies and gentlemen, to date no one in America has better defined Palin Derangement Syndrome than comedian Jackie Mason:
You hear every curse word in the world, every abusive word in the world from everybody so threatened by her that they have nothing to fear except for the fact that her showing up terrorizes them. It literally terrorizes them to such an extent that they're fearful of the possibility that her popularity will somehow catch on and she'll become a sensation. So they have to deride her with words that they never say for anybody else in the whole history of politics. Somebody else has to at least do something. A right or wrong before they get mad and start abusing and cursing the person. But she, all she has to do is make an announcement. It could be about anything. "I just had a glass of milk."
Just push play, and enjoy (absolute must-see video embedded below the fold):
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Besides being a natural beauty
July 16, 2009 - 21:20 ET by Southern voterSarah Palin represents the true definition of 'choice'....and for all the mothers/fathers of the over 40 million babies murdered by abortion she represents that 'guilt button" in each person who has made their choice choosing death...for whatever reason...and Sarah Palin is the face these people can't let into their heads...I believe the derangement centers all around the subject of abortion ...and for this reason they will do whatever they can to smear her in order to make themselves feel better...on the other side Sarah Palin represents what is still good about most people in America ...she is true hope and change....I look forward to her being in 'our face' for a long , long while ...God Bless Sarah and her beautiful family !!!
→ Bravo Jackie!!
July 16, 2009 - 21:23 ET by Cool ArrowMust see indeed.
Jackie Mason is an American Treasure
July 16, 2009 - 21:27 ET by R D HelmI'm talking right up there with Red Skelton and Justin Wilson.
-Dave
"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO
1. Love his accent. He was
July 16, 2009 - 21:41 ET by balboa1. Love his accent. He was pretty funny back in the day. Then he did Caddyshack 2, and...eek.
2. "She didn't do anything." Well, she quit. That's _something_. And she's trying to hide behind the idea that she's being noble.
3. I kept waiting for a rim shot.
4. I don't mind him going after Obama. That's a fair criticism.
Why don't you think she's
July 16, 2009 - 23:27 ET by avenarWhy don't you think she's being noble?
I think saving tax payer's money is very noble indeed.
You're right. Howe dare
July 17, 2009 - 01:04 ET by Jack BauerYou're right. How dare that Governot quit mid-term, leaving her constituents who she promised to serve out her full term.
And for what, just because she was being criticized in her state.
Just to take a higher profile job.
Just to get more money.
Just to advance herslf.
That Governor Janet Napolitano. What a QUITTER.
LMAO: So True
July 17, 2009 - 02:24 ET by Timothy HFunny, Jack!
This is such a ruckus for such a non-story. At least if it was any other politician.
BTW, How you doin', Jack?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Yeah, Napolitano quit to
July 17, 2009 - 10:01 ET by balboaYeah, Napolitano quit to serve the country in a different fashion.
Palin quit so she could write op-eds, go on more news shows, and to position herself as a martyr.
You just can't bring
July 17, 2009 - 10:19 ET by mattmYou just can't bring yourself to accept the fact that people like Palin really do mean what they say.
But I guess that's understandable coming from someone whose political heroes are a bunch of duplicitous, deceitful, ego-centric, power-hungry narcissists.
You just can't bring
July 17, 2009 - 10:54 ET by balboaYou just can't bring yourself to accept the fact that people like Palin really do mean what they say.
Not true.
But I guess that's understandable coming from someone whose political heroes are a bunch of duplicitous, deceitful, ego-centric, power-hungry narcissists.
Not true.
Not not true - true & true
July 17, 2009 - 11:16 ET by mattmYou just can't bring yourself to admit that you are a hypocrite who thinks the worst of anyone who isn't a flaming leftist and who makes excuses for the most despicable people as long as they are flaming leftists.
True.
But then that's typical of you lost souls on the left.
Also true.
Yes, that's what it is...
July 17, 2009 - 11:53 ET by balboaYes, that's what it is...
Napalitano quit to sic Homeland Security on average conservative
July 17, 2009 - 10:51 ET by carolina09Sarah will be campaigning in a town near you, soon!
Spin little bal,
July 17, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Jack BauerSpin little bal, spin.
Napolitanho quit and turned her back on her constituents just like Palin, if that's the standard you take.
There's a difference between
July 17, 2009 - 12:24 ET by balboaThere's a difference between the two situations, which I've already explained.
No there isn't. As I have
July 18, 2009 - 05:53 ET by Jack BauerNo there isn't. As I have already explained.
Flight times
July 17, 2009 - 20:40 ET by Unsane...and because it is a b***h to get national exposure when you are stuck in Anchorage and Juneau. You sure as all hell cannot campaign from there, not on the national level.
ANC-JNU is 90 minutes apart. ANC-SEA, for starters, is 3 hours. ANC-MSP is 5 hours. ANC-DEN is 4 hours. It isn't easy to do, bal.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
unsane -- here's how I tell
July 19, 2009 - 05:13 ET by Jack Bauerunsane -- here's how I tell if people are being reasonable in their criticism of anyone.
If the person you dislike does something politically clever, can you acknowledge that, even if you don't like their politics.
I pretty much despise Obama's politics, and I don't like the phony personality who reminds me of every Socialist Worker hard leftist I met in college.
BUT -- he and his people ran a very clever Presidential primary campaign in marginalizing all of Hillary Clinton's so-called advantages.
That enabled him to then run a confident campaign against McCain which also marginalized his "advantages."
Did I like it? No. Did I like the outcome? No. Did he have total media support? Yes. But was it clever? Yes!
Palin's move is pretty damned clever politically. And it looks smarter the further away we move from her press conference.
People who won't acknowledge that Sarah Palin made an astute, logical move in resigning right now, are just beyond rational political thought when it come to her.
It's a total class thing, and she's just in the wrong lower class for them. They underestimate her profoundly.
Balboa...
July 17, 2009 - 02:37 ET by Timothy HSo than, in regards to her quiting, you felt that the same treatment should have been given to Napalitano and the rest who over years have left their duties by their own doing? Come on.
Realisticly, she spent a half million dollars of her own money to defend herself against accusations that were false, with more coming in this week that she'll have to spend even more money on. She's spent more of her own money in legal defense (over $500K) against the false alegations than she has earned as Alaska's Governor in her time in office (a little under $200K based on 19 months of a $125K/yr salary). Would you keep that job? Honestly?
Add to that the fact that it consumes her time and and you have no real motive to stay. Losing money and can't make a difference? That's pretty much what she spelled out in her resignation speech. Can you blame her?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim,
July 17, 2009 - 07:30 ET by CacciatoDear Jackie Mason - Thanks for Caddy Shack 2. That was a real winner.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Napolitano leave to assume a position as Secretary of Homeland Security, a position vital to America?
Palin just quit. She didn't quit for any purpose. She's just a quitter. Literally. Her governorship was an utter failure, so she cut and run. Had she finished her term, she would have been done in national politics forever. So she quit.
On a side note, people keep claiming she accomplished so much as governor. So far all I see is a failed attorney general selection, an impending veto of her rejection of the stimulus funds, misuse of government resources (travelgate), and ZERO involvement in the TransCanada-Exxon project.
Failing and then quitting is not noble.
Jackie Mason was talking about YOU!!!!
July 17, 2009 - 07:38 ET by SouthJersey1953Leon,
Thanks for providing the justification for Jackie's video.
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
SouthJersey, Really?
July 17, 2009 - 07:43 ET by CacciatoSouthJersey,
Really? Where was my profanity? Where were my baseless attacks?
Can you provide a counter argument to anything I've said?
What exactly was wrong in my post?
Please, explain.
I know I am not supposed to feed the trolls....
July 17, 2009 - 08:01 ET by SouthJersey1953I never said you cursed....I only pointed out your obvious PDS.
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
South, Could you please
July 17, 2009 - 08:12 ET by CacciatoSouth,
Could you please explain how pointing out the facts of Palin's governorship can be classified as derangement.
Are you going to challenge my post or are you going to hide from the reality of Palin by screaming PDS?
I think PDS more accurately describes Palin Delusional Syndrome.
Leave it to a liberal
July 17, 2009 - 08:16 ET by BlondeTo try to redefine words.
Typical.
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, Care to point out
July 17, 2009 - 08:21 ET by CacciatoBlonde,
Care to point out any inaccuracies in my post or do you agree with my well supported assertion that Palin's tenure as governor was a failure?
Oh ho, Leon
July 17, 2009 - 08:24 ET by BlondeWho do you think you are? Chris Matthews?
Asking me to agree to your question with a false premise in it? That is a laughable tactic, even from you.
Troll on, Leon. I don't know why you haven't been banned again, quite frankly.
I hope he fails, too.
Ok Blonde so you can't argue
July 17, 2009 - 08:50 ET by CacciatoOk Blonde so you can't argue with my points. Duly noted.
as for your query as to why I haven't been banned I would guess it's because I haven't done anything wrong. Newsbusters doesn't ban people for simply disagreeing.
Why do you insist on trolling and trying to silence all of those people that disagree with you? I mean, you haven't said one thing about the topic at hand. You are the one trolling as usual.
I didn't say can't
July 17, 2009 - 09:03 ET by BlondeWon't
Argue
With
Trolling Leon
I hope he fails, too.
well supported ?
July 17, 2009 - 08:33 ET by general companyGive me a break, your assertion are pitiful. One of the reasons she stepped down was so she could aggressivly fight the lies you and others spread about her.
You and the other PDS members are in for a bit of a let down,
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GC, Name one thing she
July 17, 2009 - 08:46 ET by CacciatoGC,
Name one thing she accomplished as governor. Seriously, just one.
I posted a list of her failures and everyone just wants to ignore them. That's fine but it doesn't change reality.
Here you go
July 17, 2009 - 09:20 ET by MightyMouthHere you go Leon.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Probably waisting my time
July 17, 2009 - 09:21 ET by general companyBut I will share the Alaskan Gov website with you. How about you name one thing Obama has ever done for anyone?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Palin is still the most
July 17, 2009 - 08:54 ET by JasonCPalin is still the most popular of the Republican party? That seems a bit like being the most popular kid in the A/V club, but I'll let it slide.
Whether her governorship was a failure or not is of less importance to me than the fact that her writing smacks of two things:
1. Sheer antagonism toward even those who are legitimately critical of her. I'm not talking about the people who post rumors about her family on Kos and Huff here. She buys into and exploits the fact that a whole lot of people think they can make her glaring liabilities go away by shrieking "PDS!!!1!" Say what you will about Bush, he was steadfast and dignified in the face of scrutiny and sometimes unfair criticism, and to fire back shots instead of staying on point makes a politician look weak and unfocused. Yeah, I know, it's unfair, but that's politics.
2. Her grasp of the issues is simplistic. She tried so hard in her Post op/ed to fashion herself as some sort of energy policy expert; she might as well have just typed Drill Baby Drill! and then cut and pasted 100 times. Her cynical appeal to the middle class that they would suffer immeasurably if not for domestic drilling was a sly bit of (predictable) pandering. Also predictable was the fact that within 24 hours her piece had been adeptly rebutted back to the stone age.
1. Sheer antagonism toward
July 17, 2009 - 09:27 ET by general company1. Sheer antagonism toward even those who are legitimately critical of her.
Really, like who? Who on the left has expressed legitimate criticism of her?
Also predictable was the fact that within 24 hours her piece had been adeptly rebutted back to the stone age.
Certainly not you,
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Really, like who? Who on
July 17, 2009 - 09:43 ET by JasonCReally, like who? Who on the left has expressed legitimate criticism of her?
Did I say "the left"?
Certainly not you,
What?
No, I did
July 17, 2009 - 12:53 ET by general companyDid I say "the left"?
The only legitimate critique I ever hear of her is from the Right, you certainly have'nt provided any. The left just complains about her family, her cloths, her accent, and any other personal offences they can dream up.
Also noticed your buddy, (above) cant seem to come up with any positive things Obama has ever done, maybe you should concentrate on helping him with that question, instead of playing dumb.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Except of course that
July 17, 2009 - 13:36 ET by JasonCExcept of course that conservatives who offered substantive criticism of Palin were basically kicked out of the conservative club. David Frum and Kathleen Parker would be the exemplars of this, though Frum was equally castigated for daring to suggest that Rush is maybe not the best thing for the Republican party right now.
Good grief, dont you know another tune?
July 17, 2009 - 17:18 ET by general companythough Frum was equally castigated for daring to suggest that Rush is
maybe not the best thing for the Republican party right now.
As if Frum is. Geez Jason, cant you stay on topic. Your bs blows up in your face, so you try to save it by anouncing more bs. How typical
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Dude, YOU brought up
July 17, 2009 - 18:33 ET by JasonCDude, YOU brought up conservatives who have been critical of Palin. I'm pointing out that being such a conservative in the fall of 2008 meant being ostracized by other conservatives.
I don't think Frum ever said he was the preferable choice to be unofficial Republican leader...but his articles on Rush and Palin were both reasoned and critical, thus he was shunned in several circles. Ditto Parker. Don't raise a topic and then throw a fit when I respond to it.
As for decent left-leaning criticism of Palin, Cacciato's fabulous post below is a great start.
I dont throw fits
July 17, 2009 - 18:57 ET by general companyAnd your post still does not answer the question, how about you learn to comprehend what you read before getting back with me.
As for decent left-leaning criticism of Palin, Cacciato's fabulous post below is a great start.
Sure if your a liberal, and the truth has no meaning.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
"Her grasp of the issues is
July 17, 2009 - 10:00 ET by mattm"Her grasp of the issues is simplistic."
I am so sick of that dubious argument. It's just a trick elitists use to make people think that the answers to any problem have to be complicated and only the initiated can figure them out. That is utter bull!
Most problems can be solved by simple common sense, and by the common people involved. We don't need elitist experts deliberately complicating the issues for their own selfish purposes.
Making the issues seem more complicated than they are is a tactic of power-hungry tyrants who want the job of solving all our problems for us.
I'd rather have "dumb-ass" Joe the Plumber decide on the issues than some Ivory Tower elitist from either side of the aisle.
You've summed up in a
July 17, 2009 - 10:24 ET by JasonCYou've summed up in a nutshell why many of us are infuriated by
Sarah Palin. It's not "fear" or our masked contempt for "attractive
women"; it's that she represents the idea that anyone can be in charge
of something that in fact requires expertise and nuance so long as they fit a certain demographic's criteria of folksy mediocrity.
Congratulations Jasonc
July 17, 2009 - 10:32 ET by SickofLibsNow you know why we feel the way we do about Obama.
Uhhh...because he's so
July 17, 2009 - 10:35 ET by JasonCUhhh...because he's so folksy?
Not folksy, thuggy.
July 17, 2009 - 10:40 ET by SickofLibsNot folksy, thuggy.
Oh yeah totally, every time
July 17, 2009 - 10:43 ET by JasonCOh yeah totally, every time I look at Obama I involuntarily start humming an Eazy-E song.
pay close attention now:
July 17, 2009 - 10:53 ET by SickofLibsCaponey thuggy.
Not homey thuggy.
I love the argument that
July 17, 2009 - 10:32 ET by balboaI love the argument that democrats "just can't stand an attractive woman in power," or "hate her because they're afraid of her."
(exaggerated eye roll)
balboa,
July 17, 2009 - 10:49 ET by AgnosticIt is silly but you know both sides of the political aisle start making up reasons when they don't understand the actions of the opposition. While I don't completely agree with the support of Sarah Palin I do recognize that she is unique in her vocal support for many conservative opinions. However, I will never understand the lengths the media, low level liberal politicians and liberal activist have gone to attack her. Without these attacks she most like would have probably finished her term with two more years in a media exile most would have realized she needed something more for the national stage. But her attackers gave her a national stage and now she can be seen as realistic for national office by many. The left created this opportunity for her and they complain about her supporters. Somewhat ironic I think.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
JasonC, couldn't resist-
July 17, 2009 - 10:36 ET by AgnosticYou've summed up in a nutshell why many of us are infuriated by President Obama. It's not "fear" or our masked contempt for "minorities"; it's that he represents the idea that anyone can be in charge of something that in fact requires experience and realistic view of history so long as they fit a certain demographic's criteria of having an elitist education and fit the mold of a minority.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
This is where you are so
July 17, 2009 - 11:34 ET by mattmThis is where you are so wrong! The fact is WE DON'T NEED EXPERTS. We may need technicians in certain cases, but experts are not just unnecessary, they are a destructive force.
The FALSE notion that we need elitist experts ruling over us is what leads to tyranny.
The fact is anyone CAN be in charge.
"An automobile "expert" can tell you everything that could possibly go wrong with your car, a mechanic can fix it." - Publius
mattm, respectfully disagree
July 17, 2009 - 11:49 ET by AgnosticWe as individuals and a nation frequently need experts but the experts we need are those with experience in the real world with all the unexpected reactions and socialogical expectations learned through working with a customer/client base. What we don't need are experts who have spent their life developing their experience based on models of how they or other so called experts think events should occur. I am a big supporter of education but a good education only means you have the ability to learn through experience. An education applied without experience is often a folly based on ignorance and arrogance. IMHO.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
You are mistaking experts
July 17, 2009 - 12:46 ET by mattmYou are mistaking experts with technicians.
It's a fine point I'm trying to make, but look at the healthcare debate: We have Obama telling us that the experts should decide what the healthcare system should be and how it should operate - and we know from the experience of others who have tried this that it not only doesn't work, it'a a disaster.
These "expertists" can't or won't trust the people, the doctors and the patients, and the employers, to work it out for themselves - i.e. let the "free-market" market work.
You and your doctor can work out a better system than some expert in D.C.
Yes we need people who know how to set a broken leg, build a bridge or develop battle plans, but we don't need experts to know when these things are necessary and when they are not.
I hope you can understand my point a little better now. I guess I didn't think it needed this much explanation.....
Here's a link to a piece that explains it far better than I can:
http://www.neopopulism.org/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Complexity-is-Power.html&Itemid=39
experts vs technicians
July 19, 2009 - 04:47 ET by AgnosticThis is a definition of the term 'expert' the excludes true experts in their fields and as such I can only guess it is derived from the same process that make college professors experts while the technicians merely laborers. I understand the point you and the article are making but I can not agree with the premise. An expert is an expert through education, training, experience and a certain amount of intuition but to define the 'expert' as someone who has simply studied a discipline is insulting to the true experts. In your example the doctor would be the medical expert and I would be the expert on my personal finance while DC would be the expert on social engineering. Medicine, while offering many opinions, is built on a set of definable standards of quality, my finances are within responsible confines a known factor, and social engineering is a set of theories. DC may be the expert at social engineering but their work is limited to this field for the populace to allow them to redefine themselves as experts in anything but socialism is an insult to those expert technicians you and the article reference since they are the true experts.
This is no fine line - the social engineers are trying to allow themselves to be defined as experts in areas in which they are not qualified to be apprentices. The experts are still the trained workers and accomplished business people of business world. Those people dabbling in fields as a way to implement their socialistic ideas are only professional politicians and social engineers and their label of 'expert' can not be allowed to extend any further than that or we will be entering an Orwellian area of speech.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
Experts are a destructive
July 17, 2009 - 11:55 ET by balboaExperts are a destructive force. Really? I can't believe we're at a point that experts are a bad thing.
See my response above. You
July 17, 2009 - 12:08 ET by mattmSee my response above. You might be able to grasp my point - but then maybe you'll need an expert to explain it to you....
Like Pope, Cacc also infallible
July 17, 2009 - 08:45 ET by SickofLibs"So far all I see..." is a well supported assertion? You may want to let some air out of your head, because you are seriously over-inflated.
Let's see, who else has committed the scandal of (many) failed nominations for cabinet posts?
"Travelgate"? A low-level blip compared to the real Travelgate - the one that involved a massive coverup and perjury by the current SOS - and nothing compared to all the illegal crap being perpetrated by Congress at this moment.
It is now 13 days after you boldly predicted Palin would be carted away in handcuffs... any updates for us?
Does any honest person -
July 17, 2009 - 08:57 ET by mattmDoes any honest person - eh, not you Leon - believe that any of the leading democrats, like O-dumbo, Gaffe-boy Biden, Harry Land-shark Reid and Nancy Plastosi, to name just a few, could stand up under one tenth the scrutiny and attacks that Palin or any other prominent conservative has to face?
If Obama had faced even merely objective news coverage during the campaign he would not be president now. He needed all the glowing and fawning press he could get or he probably wouldn't have even gotten the nomination.
That's it mattm
July 17, 2009 - 09:08 ET by SickofLibsIf the MSM had been even moderately objective, we'd have President H. Clinton (chills). Secretary of State Obama would be even more terrifying.
The list of simple things no one knows about Obama is staggering. Who the hell could even get into grad school without providing their college transcript? But the MSM didn't care one bit.
OK, just to humor you (a little)
July 17, 2009 - 09:01 ET by SouthJersey1953Here is one (of many accomplishments): AGIA License bill signed August 27, 2008 - House Bill 3001 for awarding a contract to TransCanada Alaska for developing and building a pipeline stretching for 1,715 miles from the Prudhoe Bay treatment plant to Alberta Canada. Natives of Alaska have dreamed of a pipeline for more than 30 years. Sarah Palin in less than two years got the bill passed and the framework is now laid for them to move forward with the project.
(as an aside - Blonde, my absolute favorite line at NB is your copyrighted "we need a better class of troll here" line!!! - how very true)
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
South Jersey
July 17, 2009 - 09:06 ET by BlondeMucho gracias. Feel free to copy/paste and use as you see fit.
Sometimes there's nothing else to say, as with the peripatetic Leon.
Enjoy!
I hope he fails, too.
Cacciato....
July 17, 2009 - 13:39 ET by Timothy HSo, let me get this straight, Napolitano leaves her post early for a position that she was underqualified for and that's OK, but Palin leaves because her administration has become a circus because of people like you, and because it is costing her and her state more money to defend FALSE allegations as well as precious time diverted from real issues, and you think that's bad?
Since you decided to answer for balboa, who is more than capable of answering for himself, I guess you get both barrels instead.
Here is why you are wrong, and why many others who respoonded to you are right.
You have no fact. heere are some exapmles:
"She didn't quit for any purpose"
"Her governorship was an utter failure"
"Had she finished her term, she would have been done in national politics forever"
"impending veto of her rejection of the stimulus funds, misuse of government resources (travelgate)"
First all of this is pure speculation, no fact at all. Just you shooting off at the mouth in hopes that some saliva-coated bit will stick.
Let me ask a question. If she did so poorly, why couldn't the nation media machine dig up all these failures to broadcast to us duing the national election, or since? Why didn't the Obama campaign show us all her failures in ads? Why do they need to spend all their time attacking her cloths, look, kids, husband, etc if there is so much real fodder out there?
You claim she had no reasons to leave? I listed plenty. And if no other reason was involved but than the fact that she has shelled out more than $500 for defense of issues that have all been cleared (in other words, total BS) while only making a little less than $200K in salary as Governor over her term, than I can't blame her. Would you keep that job? You didn't answer the first time, so why not try now. I know why you didn't answer it. Because you either come out an obvious liar or you have to conceed the point.
As for your Napolitano argument, did she not skip out on a Governorship for a national stage job? So you're saying that you feel there are acceptable reasons to leave the governorship? But only if you are leaving for higher office? If you listen to the talking heads on all sides, Palin hurt her chances for the GOP nomination for POTUS in '12 by leaving. Her administation was stalled by vicious frivolous attacks that have already cost her in a year and a half more money than she will make in her four year term, her children have become the target of vicious assaults by the media in an unprecedented way, her state has spent millions investigating fraudulent claims using laws she championed in order to dissuade corruption and eliminate repercussions for the accusers. And that's not enough to justify her decision to step down? Meanwhile you justify (and rightly so) Napolitano's abandonment of her constituents in order to take a position in which she certainly wasn't the "expert" you seem to feel is so necessary in gov't. Sounds like you have no real argument.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Oh Timmy, That was an
July 17, 2009 - 15:32 ET by CacciatoOh Timmy,
That was an awfully long post considering that in the end you said very little. You really have no idea what you are talking about. It appears that while you may have brought your double barrelled shotgun, you forgot to load it. Whoops! Don't worry. It's a common mistake around here. Lots of bravado, but little real damage.
I will address your post point by point. This should be fun:
1) The claim that ethics charges are costing Alasaka millions of dollars has been thoroughly debunked. Credit AK blogger Shannyn Moore:
Let's do the math:
Branchflower Report: $75,000 (Legislative investigation that found Sarah Palin guilty of abuse of power.)
Palin's own ethics complaint: $187,245.58 (A political tactic filed in an attempt to de-rail the Branchflower Report.)
Special Session (Low estimate):$150,000
PALIN'S cost to the State of Alaska? $402,245.58
"FRIVOLOUS ETHICS COMPLAINERS" cost to the State of Alaska? $101,101.84
As you can clearly see, the ethics complaints haven't cost the state of Alaska an exhorbitant amount as Palin claims.
2) You claim that my charge that she was facing a veto over her rejection of the stimulus funds and that she was forced to pay back money in Travelgate is pure speculation. WRONG. She WAS facing a veto of her stimulus fund rejection and she WAS forced to pay back $6,800 for charges she made to the state for her children's travel.
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Simple Google search would have enabled you to keep your ignorance hidden.
3) Palin's Failures were dug up and reported widely. You just chose to ignore them. The list is long (and sadly not distinguished) so I'll stick to the major items:
a) She supported the Bridge to Nowhere despite claiming she fought against it. This lie is amazing in that she still sticks to it in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
b) Her attorney general selection was almost unanimously rejected - a first in the history of AK
c) The Couric interviews - Failure - utter and dismal - frankly, so embarassing it was amazing she could recover at all
d) Her rejection of stimulus funds was facing veto as noted above
e) She was found guilty of ethics violations in Travelgate and forced to pay back money
f) She has had nothing to do with the Transcanada pipeline project since it was approved - literally no involvement despite claiming responsibility for the project
g) She has consistently been shown to be a liar. Here's a comprehensive list
Her failures are many and well-documented. Her most recent quitting was just another in a long line of failures. Enjoy the links.
4) Napolitano didn't quit to join the national stage - she quit to accept a position of vital importance to America's security. It's not like she quit to write a book, whine in op-eds, and try to land a spot with the other porn-star-esqe anchor peoples at Fox News.
Palin didn't leave for a higher office. She left b/c she's a quitter. IN fact, she still hasn't even told us what her plans are. If she had such a clear vision, why won't she share it?
5) Palin exploited her kids by putting them in the spot light so she can't cry now that they get media attention. Prime examples. (a) Bristol got heat for being a high school drop out. It reflected poorly on Palin. Sooo Palin forced her to graduate and then shamelessly got a picture placed on the cover of People magazine of Bristol in her highschool graduation robes (b) It comes out that Bristol is pregnant, a teenager, and unwed after her VP nomination. To mitigate the damage to her image, Palin/McCain organize an elaborate little show where they fly Levi into the convention with much fanfare in order to create a more wholesome image - we call that exploitation.
So it's painfully clear to any rational person that while her children have receieved media attention, it's because she forced them into the spotlight. She asked for attention, then cried when she got it. It's classic Palin. Thin skin all around. She can dish it, but she can NEVER take it.
6) Quitting simply because you're facing adversity is never the right move. It's pathetic, lazy, childish, and weak. I was raised to never quit anything. Don't know about you, but I see no justification for her quitting in the middle of her first term. It's weak and sad. Nobody wants a quitter for a leader.
7) I don't know what your expert take on Napolitano has to do with anything. I'm criticizing Palin for quitting. Napolitano quit to accept a higher position. Her situation is not even remotely similar to Palin. Bad example.
whooooo. That was tedious! Enjoy your Friday Night Reading. Feel free to play again at any time.
PS You shouldn't let your emotions override your logic. It never leads to a strong argument.
Epic win. Awesome post.
July 17, 2009 - 15:39 ET by JasonCEpic win. Awesome post.
You two sit in the same coconut tree dontcha?
July 17, 2009 - 16:04 ET by MightyMouthEpic win? Awesome post? Have you two chuckle heads ever even looked into Maobama's sorted past or the abuses of power now being foisted on America by a corrupt regime? No it's all about Palin. Commrad Leon here has wasted a good part of his day bashing someone he knows nothing about and you join the twerps ranks.
Had more respect for you JasonC. sheesh!!
<edit> oh not it's not you its Jer I have the respect for. Can't keep you liberal nutjobs straight!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
coconut tree, yes, but...
July 17, 2009 - 16:14 ET by SickofLibsThey're also a successful sports franchise.
Ouch!
July 17, 2009 - 17:16 ET by ParagrouperThat was off the top rope!
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Great counter-argument
July 17, 2009 - 18:36 ET by JasonCGreat counter-argument MM. Really.
Cacciato: [Detailed, sourced explanation of Palin's shortcomings and liabilities.]
MM: Yeah, well, Obama sucks too.
Awesome comeback, seriously. Bet your debate team went to state.
That response is particularly funny considering that I don't recall seeing Cacciato seeing Obama's praises. I know I haven't. But no, in the unimaginative black-and-white ideological morass that passes for modern political discourse, one MUST be an "Obamaniac" if one is critical of Palin!
Not as good as your post
July 17, 2009 - 18:52 ET by general companyClaiming Cacc lies were an epic win. He post a bunch of lies and propaganda and you cheerlead, and now your back claiming bad behaviour of someone else. How typical
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Cacciato....
July 17, 2009 - 17:12 ET by Timothy HWow, for a guy who says a lot, you still posted major speculation without foundation in reality and then speculated on that.
I address my redirect point by point as well.
1) Using a Huffington post article as your basis for fact amounts to just about throwing in the towel.
2) your are speculating if you call a yet to happen veto a failure. Do you need a definition for the term, or did you just not think it through. The travelgate thing was my failure to edit my cut and paste. But notice that you only chose one of four examples to criticise. What happened to the other three, there, Kojak? Your silence on them makes my point for me.
3) a: your facts are skewed. When running in 06, Palin DID defend the project, but later cedded that she was underiformed. While Governor, she canceled the project due to "inaccurate portrayal of the project" btu kept the funds. The problem here is that the why the decision was made appearantly never fell on your ears. Alaska was, and still is looking for a cheaper way to complete the project. Try telling the whole story.
b: Obama couldn't even get half of his initial nominees to the confirmation, and 1 nominee being vetoed makes Palin's administration a failure? Get real.
c: A poor performance in an interview while campaigning for VP relates how to her job as governor? A real reach here, huh?
d: This is an example of her taking a stand. Greedy politicians who are too shortsighted to see the unintended (or intended, depending on who you believe) consequences of taking that money do not constitute a failure on the part of the governor. Nice try, though
e: Sarah Palin agreed to repay after the charge was filed, and after reviewing the law, but was NOT found guilty. You should take your own advice about Google. Sarah has been found guilty on only one ethics charge, the one relating to her ex-brother-in-law, out of 19. Whether she would have won or not is unclear, but what was clear was that the $6800 was far cheaper than the legal cost to defend against it.
f: Again you leave out crucial facts, or outright lie. whichever it is, Palin DID sign the bill that authorized the pipeline. She also pledged $500M to get the project off the ground. What you appearantly missed was that the pipeline is being legally challanged in Canada.
4-7) Napolitano quit. Period. She did not fullfil her obligations to those that elected her, instead filling a job that got her more face time but which she is woefully unqualified for. It must be true, because I said it. Her own statements of the time don't matter. Just like your take on Palin. You still avoided the question of whether you would keep a job that was costing you personally 2.5x the pay you were receiving for the job.
As far as her kids go, I guess that makes Obama's kids fair game, or Chelsea Clinton, or any other politicians kids? Because Palin is a politician that means that her kids are fair game? Your BS take on her exploitation of her children is putrid. Please, back up your statements with reference. How exactly did a minor state GOP governor force her daughters pictures onto the cover of a magazine like People? Do tell.
Speculation, lying, promoting ignorance and hyperbole all describe what you have posted here. And that is all you have displayed.
PS - You shouldn't let your PDS override your logic. I never leads to a strong argument.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
BTW, Cacciato...
July 17, 2009 - 17:38 ET by Timothy HYou wanted a list of accomplishments, here are some.
The AGIA
101 successful apppointments in legislatural, judiciary, boards commissions and councils(wow, that 1 failed appointment far outweighs the other 101, right)
Refused 25K salary increase
Even with travelgate, she reduced travel expenses by 20% over her predecessor. (an estimated $913K by the states own .gov. hmmm, makes that $6800 seem kinda small, huh?)
Balanced Alaskan budget.
Disaster management (in relation to the floods of early 2009)[this should be a big one for those of you who felt Bush failed in this kind of thing]
oh, and you can reference all of these at www.gov.state.ak.us
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Not to mention the artical
July 17, 2009 - 17:40 ET by general companyBy the moron Andy Sullivan. All lies, pure lying PDS.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
lack of fiduciary knowledge
July 18, 2009 - 00:36 ET by LindamaeC:
1. The cost of doing business is never just the salary being paid to the employees. You should know that. You need to add up the amount spent for electricty, paper, ink, computer time, oil, whatever else needed to keep the office open and workable. Don't forget taxes and SS, and or pension costs, whatever else. I don't know the total, but I can see how it would be derived. Do you have a job? If so, you shouldn't be making this simple mistake.
2. Whooperatee yeah about the cost of her kids plane flights. You are aware, are you not, that the first thing Palin did was to sell the state jet and put $2 MILLION back into the state coffers. Plus, she has saved about $75,000 per year for the pilot's salary, fees to store and maintain the jet, plus fuel, etc. Cleaning, whatever else. If she had not done this, she would have been able to use it to take her kids with her for free. So, let's see, subtract @ $7,000 from 2 million plus @ $125,000 , and you can see why I can't get upset with your nickling and diming this issue. Pelosi spent @ $57,000 for one week in Italy just after signing the stimulous package.
3. Politics are dirty. What can I say? I watched Couric's facial contortions and listened to her questions. I only wish she had asked Obama at least 1/2 of them. Review the list of questions asked to both and then you will understand. I looked at your comprehensive list of lies and they certainly are. There is little basis of truth in them. Google the Arctic Parliamentarian Conference held August, 2009, in which Palin hosted and presented. There were at least 20 countries there to discuss energy, health issues in the Arctic Circle, and global warming. (Which IS a hoax) Check out the pictures of the diplomats who attended: Russia, China, Twaiwan, Poland, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, plus several others. Then, go back to the state web site and check out the photo section to see the list of Ambassadors and diplomats who joined Palin in celebrating Alaska's 50th anniversary. The names and countries are there. We don't realize that Alaska has contacts with many other countries and that they are @ 30 miles across the sea from Russia. (Tina Fey was wrong) I also visited the Wasilla Library site and the Anchorage Daily News - no mention of book banning. There was no article also about the firing of the librarian. I won't waste my time with the other "lies" because there are other issues to discuss.
I'll skip Janet.
5. As for her kids. You have to be really ignorant if you blame her for including her kids with her during the campaign - just like Obama did. And the others. Dodd even moved his wife and kids to Iowa with him so he could see them. The difference is integrity of the press. That they didn't go after Obama and went after Palin supports their lack of journalistic integrity. There is nothing more the discuss. Unless you are admitting that Obama is not rational in trotting out the girls? I remind people that Letterman told jokes about Palin 95 days since she had been nominated. His jokes - and the fact that the press forgets that - were about the 14 year old. He made the comment about her being knocked up during the 7th inning. He ALSO made a comment about Palin having to keep her daughter away from Elliot Spitzer - who was know for having sex with a very young prostitute - under 16. Letterman lied and proved that he was a pervert. To advocate sex between a14 year girl and a 36 year old man - and possibly a 55 year old man (how old is Spitzer?) is gross, in my sense of morality.I am amazed that there are those who apparently think it is okay so they accepted his jokes. I loved the Dateline series in which old men came to have sex with 14 year olds and were arrested. So, unless you can prove that Obama NEVER had his kids with him, your argument about Palin's "deserving" it is ridiculous. I enjoyed the interview in which one of the daughters told Obama he was wrong when he said what city he was in. She was right. He didn't know where he was. It was a delicious moment for me. She's a cute kid. Regarding Bristol's pregnancy. Are you for real? Do you know the % of single moms in America every year? It happens. It was once called anticipation of one's wedding night in romantic historical novels. Unless YOU were a virgin on your wedding night, you have nothing to say except, "whew." I remember that JFK's sister was born and sent to an institution where she lived out her life because she also had Downes. We've come a long way since then. I've worked for the March of Dimes and have no respect for anyone who questions Palin's choice to have her baby. It's not your business. If and when you have a special needs kid, then you make your own decisions and I'll support your right to do so. I promise that I won't accuse your daughter of having the baby.
As far as Palin's leaving office. She has proven that she is a good steward of Alaska's wealth and rather than see it being stolen by those with political agendas, she will leave the office. If you go to the state site you will find that her budget was ready months ago. Plus, she is right about the stimulous money. It will by your grandchildren who will be paying for what we are spending now. There is NO common sense in that and I think it is immoral. So, I don't blame her for refusing it. Also, it will not create long term private jobs and that is what we need to get out of the hole Obama has dug for us. Remember, it is Congress - the House - which introduces spending. It is the President who signs the spending into law or vetoes it. Bush was NOT able to do anything without Pelosi's push. Also, Bush had said he was going to veto the Omnibus Pork bill - so Pelosi held it back until Obama go in.
I also will caution you about logic since you gave no facts to support your anti Palin rantings. Are you a member of one of George Soros's many funds? He bragged that he spent over 1 million of his own money to discredit Bush because Bush was too nationalistic and Soros wants us to joing the One World Order under the United Nations. Sorry, I'm too proud of my country to do that. Or, are you a member of Acorn? I love that there are at least 250 different agencies which share the address of their headquarters in New Orleans. Must have loads of "mail boxes."
So, read and enjoy. I suggest you widen your selection. I know all of your arguments but I doubt you know any of mine since they are based upon facts you will never read in the main stream press.
Obama quit too, don't forget.
July 17, 2009 - 17:42 ET by CobraManObama quit too, Or did you forget that he only served half of his Senatorial Term before quitting on his constituents to run for President? I don't hear you complaining about Obama, the quitter.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Well, she quit. Bal, that
July 17, 2009 - 11:08 ET by PeskyDaneWell, she quit.
Bal, that is beneath you. The Palin family has already spent $500,000 of their own money fending off frivilous allegations of the governor's "mis-conduct." As you are one of the sane libs here, I somehow doubt that you are cheering that on. This family is not well-connected and that money probably represents years of labor on behalf of Todd Palin. As far as I know there are no trust-funds piled up from exploiting polonnesian slave labor or insider trading and smuggling contraband (yes, cheap shots at the current lib establishment, sue me).
Seriously, should she have watched the fruits of years, years of back-breaking labor dissintegrate before her eyes? You tell me. Back in September you and I had a similar exchange and you asserted that there was no, repeat no effort to destroy her family. Well, events have proven you wrong then, and you are certainly wrong now.
It's not beneath Bal. It's
July 17, 2009 - 11:14 ET by mattmIt's not beneath Bal. It's quintessential Bal: Unfair, hypocritical and wrong.
I'm not a fan of frivolous
July 17, 2009 - 11:52 ET by balboaI'm not a fan of frivolous lawsuits, but I don't know that they all are. I'm not familiar with the particulars of all of them, so I can't really say. I'm sure some of them are frivolous.
Bal, as always, I appreciate
July 17, 2009 - 13:07 ET by PeskyDaneBal, as always, I appreciate the chance to dialogue. To be fair, I do not know the intimate merits of each and every allegation of "ethics violation" she's had to fend off either. We do know that each and everyone has been dismissed. You can't easily chalk that up to any "connections" she might have. One of the over-arching factors of all that makes up her orbit is the hatred she seems to draw from the Republican establishment both inside and outside her state.
Pesky, you mean Democrat
July 17, 2009 - 13:42 ET by balboaPesky, you mean Democrat establishment, right?
And I always love a good dialog with the PD. :-)
Bal, I meant the Republican
July 17, 2009 - 19:52 ET by PeskyDaneBal, I meant the Republican establishment. Its a matter of record that before most of us heard of Sara Palin, she had already ticked off the good-old-boy network in her own party.
It just follows that someone with that many enemies among country club "conservatives" and the lear jet liberals would appeal to wide swath of the unpretentious.
Gotcha. I misunderstood
July 17, 2009 - 22:28 ET by balboaGotcha. I misunderstood where you were going with that one.
→ Frivolous Lawsuits
July 17, 2009 - 20:01 ET by Cool ArrowI guess wearing a jacket with a racing logo is some pretty serious stuff these days, huh?
Oh! Wait a minute! Didn't the President Wear a White Sox Jersey the other night?
Let's sue his a$$.
Cool
July 17, 2009 - 20:11 ET by RukusGood catch! I never even thought about that. Well then, I'm a conservative and don't think like that. Very good point friend! : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
ethics
July 17, 2009 - 23:42 ET by LindamaeYou can visit the Alaska state web site and go to the news archives to read about the various ethics violation charges and how they have been dismissed. They are ridiculous. They follow Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #4: make them walk their talk. Palin has led the charge against ethics violations in the State so she is being smeared with the same type of charges. Only - hers have been proven groundless.
Those who are filing the charges are breaking the law of confidentiality. They want the publicity.
Add to the mix the 150 plus Freedom of Information Act requests, and you can see how the government of Alaska is paying a high price. Palin does not waste money. She sold the state jet immediately and laid off the State Capitol chef - found another job for her. She buys her clothes at resale shops and practices what she preaches about not wasting money. I cannot see her buying a $6,000 purse if she moved into the White House. I cannot believe Michelle did, but she did. And Obama is telling us to tighten our belts?
So, if you want to verify the frivolous lawsuits, visit the state site. I also remind people that the first one against her was about her brother-in-law. I remind people that he tasered his 12 year old step son. Since then, we've seen one 15 year old boy die from being tasered by a "friend." plus several cops losing their jobs because of their tasering a civilian.
Happy reading.
Beautiful and correct
July 16, 2009 - 21:49 ET by RD Kingyou lowlife bast...ds
"No Recovery until Nobama!!!!!" me and at least 59,934,786 other Americans.
Add the liberal AARP to the list of PDS members. On their
July 16, 2009 - 22:56 ET by Rush Fanwebsite they have a Los Angeles Times article titled
What is it about Sarah Palin? that reads in part:
The Palin-bashing continues:
Isn't it interesting that AARP chose this article for its website.
RF... The grand old
July 16, 2009 - 23:11 ET by bigtimerRF...
The grand old AARP...I despise them and have since I've been in my late thirties....they are nothing but an organization for the left...people that join that donate their money to the dem party...it is as simple as that.
We get ads all the time to please join, calls etc. over the years...not one penny...ever...not as long as I am alive, we will never join them.
As far as Palin, and the LATs...I would expect nothing less from them, they are as filthy as they come when it comes to a deceiving, leftist organization...and they count on the masses not knowing it.
...and it's worked... so far.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hi bt. - Sadly, I was a dues-paying member for many years
July 17, 2009 - 00:35 ET by Rush Fanbefore I realized that AARP was not only nonpartisan, but a far left organization. I chalk that mistake up to the distraction of putting too many hours at work.
As I posted here, it was only after AARP honored Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover that I finally realized my mistake. Oh well. I guess you are never too old to learn from your mistakes.
As for Sarah Palin, as you know I get very angry when she is attacked by the leftist media. That being said, I don't believe she is ready to run for president. When she has the communication skills and knowledge that Liz Cheney has, she might be ready to run for vice president again, perhaps on a Cheney/Palin ticket.
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"It is because in the emotion-fueled world of liberalism, it is words that matter most, and professed intent, not the facts." ~ from the WSJ article titled Liberal Discontent and the Spies Next Door by Harry Stein (who wrote "I Can't Believe I'm Sitting Next to a Republican,")
RF... Well, in my mid to
July 17, 2009 - 00:49 ET by bigtimerRF...
Well, in my mid to late thirties is when I really started paying a lot attention to politics in a lot of ways when I got the chance in between working, family etc...my husband is 12 years older than me too....so by the time he was getting bombarded with ads, calls, pressures, which they still can use in some tactics regarding your place of employment and the govt, let alone insurance co. costs if you do their program to reduce your rates at a certain age, too long to go into, but the money goes to them for the tests and the program to join, although it isn't a lot, it must be huge take nationwide year after year, and this is just one little clog they have in their gigantic wheel...I was well aware of what they were in between all those years, don't think I'm not, and haven't been bombarded too now, I start the fire with their bull...
As to 2012...and who is going to run...it is going to be interesting, and I hope somewhat fun... for awhile anyway, as long as we keep the volume on the television on mute as much as possible, it can be....I hope.
...and that may spring eternal.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
HAVING JUST
July 17, 2009 - 06:30 ET by jacktheripperturned 50 I joined AARP, then Igot their ragazine and was SHOCKED at their left leaning "gimme this , I'm entitled to that" attitude.!! They keep pushing the O's health care and cap-n-trade crap . Must be all the old hippies and boomers took over AARP cuz my mom and pops generation would never agree with these lefty socialists running the show! We got our generational tag wrong, we are not Baby Boomers but baby DOOMERS!! Needless to say I will not be renewing my membership
"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"
Could she be the tort reform candidate?
July 16, 2009 - 22:54 ET by jondelwicheDriven from office by frivilous lawsuits and charges....
She could be the Phoenix, riding a simple ticket
of
tort reform = reign in the lawyers(the only ones Obama wont limit)
budget sanity
border protection
drill, drill, drill
It could work, if she wants to swim with these sharks.
Sarah
July 16, 2009 - 23:46 ET by Scout FinchNo other conservative has come up to bat for us like her. Gotta like that!
Sexism straight up
July 17, 2009 - 00:04 ET by Irene Flick... "This is sexism straight up and is nothing but a bunch of
ignorant
gun-grabbing
crybabies. There is no way around that." ...
Get him and Levin...
July 17, 2009 - 01:56 ET by AgentAmericanThe Ultimate Jewish Tag Team...Mason and Levin...Unleash hell!
2010: A GOP Hill
Every word he says is 100%
July 17, 2009 - 02:19 ET by mostlymoderateEvery word he says is 100% on. So true in regards to Obama never showing up for work in the senate.
Too Much Truth . . .
July 17, 2009 - 03:46 ET by DoktorFranken. . . for any Leftist to swallow without spitting out ad hominem attacks at both Jackie and Sarah. Thank you, Mr. Mason, for your insights. Hate and fear are the two reasons Governor Palin is attacked.
Sarah Palin - The Most Dangerous Conservative in America.
Because she can win.
Wow! How come we couldn't
July 17, 2009 - 03:49 ET by RR GOPWow! How come we couldn't have gotten him in the senate rather than Franken?
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Excellent point!
July 17, 2009 - 07:19 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarI've heard Barney the Dinosaur (not to be confused with Barney, the Flamboyant Mush-mouthed Hack) is quite the liberal and will be running for Minnesota Govenor ... a shoe-in for sure.
Minnesota, you are an embarrasment.
"You should always tell the truth, because if you tell the truth you make it the other person's problem." Sean Connery
You tell 'em
July 17, 2009 - 07:41 ET by CacciatoYou tell 'em Jackie!
Oooooh Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Mitt Romney, George Will, David Brooks, David Frum, Ross Douthat, Richard Cohen, Charles Kauthammer, & Christopher Buckley are soooo mean!!!!
Poor Palin getting attacked by all those liberals!...er, wait a second. Those aren't liberals!
Hey Chachie
July 17, 2009 - 07:57 ET by Free StinkerHey Chachie,
funny how you help prove the point . . .
"Professional politicians and political journalists don't waste energy on political corpses. They reserve their energy -- positive or negative -- for viable politicians." --Tony Blankley (speaking of the MSM reaction to Palin's July 3 announcement she is stepping down as Alaska Governor)
"If Palin is spent as a political force, why is everyone on the left so worried and talking about her?" --INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Leon's just trolling Free
July 17, 2009 - 07:58 ET by BlondeSheesh, we get rid of one PDS troll, only to have another one pop up in its place.
I hope he fails, too.
Three 'L's'
July 17, 2009 - 08:09 ET by RukusAt Least Leon's not a Linkasaurus! : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
Awh Free, Your Palin
July 17, 2009 - 08:17 ET by CacciatoAwh Free,
Your Palin obsession is so cute. Reminds me of my the crush I had on Kristi yamaguchi in fourth grade.
Just reminding everyone that the Palin criticism has come from every direction.
Thanks, NS
July 17, 2009 - 09:10 ET by BlondeDelicious, truly.
His last sentence was the coup de grace.
I hope he fails, too.
Great stuff! The Rocky
July 17, 2009 - 10:43 ET by wiwfGreat stuff!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Please don't feed the
July 17, 2009 - 10:57 ET by nolotrippenPlease don't feed the trolls. This will make the site much worse. People who don't understand what Jackie is saying (sorry, cannot understand what he's saying) are just here to waste bandwidth. These are not people who have anything but stawman arguments. If you acknowledge them, they'll keep coming back. It feeds something inside them that is simply a dead spirit. Instead of feeding this, pray for them.
We understand Nolo
July 17, 2009 - 18:42 ET by general companyBut the trolls here had better be educated, or they will be made the fool. Sometimes you just cant leave the lie alone, you must turn it up-right. Stay around long enough, you will find most of our trolls dont last long.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Let's make a deal Binky Braveheart.
July 25, 2009 - 17:17 ET by JWFJasonC: Except of course that conservatives who offered substantive criticism of Palin were basically kicked out of the conservative club.
Quit defining what is and what is not conservatism. Stick to what you know best - liberalism.
You explain to us what liberalism is all about.
We are sick of you defining exactly what composes us.
And you lost another five points agreeing with chicken cacciatore. That guy is straight out of troll city. KEEP UP.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.