...and Walsh always does that don't interrupt me BS as she attempts to filibuster every conversation, she did the same thing on Matthews show about three months ago with somebody on the conservative side that I really like, and proceeded to try to shame him, and of course Matthews took her side, because the person said I wouldn't want to be married to you either or something along those lines....I loved it when I saw it, she is a witch from hell who has got a pass forever with her leftist talking points propaganda.
I despise Joan Walsh.
I'll think of the conservatives name about midnight...hehee
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
that I did not see. She deserved what she got plus more... I thought she looked so pathetically stupid last night that I almost felt sorry for her...shame on me (serious) as she is the type who would love to torture her opponents.
"I despise Joan Walsh."
With good reason BT... you are thinking clearly and see her for what she is. I should be rejoicing in her basting last night... and I am now : ) Keep me straight ; )
Walsh called herself a Catholic during the imbroglio.
O'Reilly said what Tiller did was lawful. Perhaps. But perhaps no one chose to investigate him agressively. People like Walsh and Kathleen (no coal) Sebelius protected this man, and allowed his late term abortion mill to operate on the edge of the law.
Walsh's vile and facile accusations against O'Reilly leave her exposed to similar charges.
She is not pro-choice, she is pro-abortion. She revels in the destruction of life. She eptomizes the left wing bomb throwing that is poisoning reasoned discussion today.
Unfotunately, Kathleen (no coal) Sebelius is now Secretary of Health and Human services. I wish she had stayed in Kansas. Those people elected her and deserved the consequences.
Perhaps she gets some slack because her father was John Gilligan, the former Ohio Governor.
Did she just say "don't demonize me", mere hours after she claimed Rush
Limbaugh, Hannity and Glenn Beck are too blame for this latest
shooting? Simply amazing.
This whole "blame the rightwing media" is a perfect example of an overall liberal concept that individuals are not responsible for their own actions. For example, a crazy goes and shoots a doctor- it's not his fault that the radio & tv talkers made him get a gun and pull the trigger. A crazy shoots up Holocaust Memorial- again, rightwing talkers made him pick up his gun and go pull trigger. Crazies go shoot up schools- it's not their fault that they were picked on and treated poorly by the "in-crowd." This is all just their new way of making the 1980-90s argument that guns must be banned b/c guns (not the person pulling the trigger) are killing people. It's too bad the Libs don't apply this theory to their own comments like "the U.S. is a torture nation" that could much more realistically cause people to lash out in violence.
Was that supposed to make BOR fold like a cheap tent?
These people never offer a single example of a woman whose life was saved by having her baby half-delivered and its brain sucked out.
Here is a quote from a long time ago (I saved it)...an interview with Dr. Martin Haskell, one of the pioneers of partial-birth abortion. It originally appeared in the AMA's newspaper (emphasis added):
"And I'll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective in that 20-24 week range. . . . In my particular case, probably 20% [of this procedure] are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective." Regarding the fact that the cervix was not dilated wide enough to deliver the head, Haskell also admitted that "you could dilate further" and deliver the baby alive, but "that's not really the point. The point here is you're attempting to do an abortion. And that's the goal of your work, is to complete an abortion. Not to see how do I manipulate the situation so that I get a live birth instead."
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.-Bart Simpson
Let the rabid left who support this vile, disgusting procedure watch it over and over and over so they can see what it is they support.
Tiller WAS a baby killer. Whether what he did was "legal" it was immoral and murder. I think his killer should be punished but I'm more glad that the murder factory is no longer cranking out death on a daily basis.
Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
"tied the far-right loners who had gotten their guns out in Wichita and Washington to the mounting fury of Obama haters."
The New York Times Frank Rich: "WHEN a Fox News anchor, reacting to his own network’s surging e-mail traffic, warns urgently on-camera of a rise in hate-filled, “amped up” Americans who are “taking the extra step and getting the gun out,” maybe we should listen. He has better sources in that underground than most."
.... "These are extraordinary words to hear on Fox. The network’s highest-rated star, Bill O’Reilly, had assailed Tiller, calling him “Tiller the baby killer” and likening him to the Nazis, on 29 of his shows before the doctor was murdered at his church in Kansas. O’Reilly was unrepentant, stating that only “pro-abortion zealots and Fox News haters” would link him to the crime. But now another Fox star, while stopping short of blaming O’Reilly, was breaching his network’s brand of political correctness: he tied the far-right loners who had gotten their guns out in Wichita and Washington to the mounting fury of Obama haters."
-----Here is a link to Shephard Smith's rant on Youtube.-----
As for Shepard Smith whining and moaning and complaining
about e-mails, nobody needs to tell me about hateful e-mails, for
crying out loud. I get the most vile, sick e-mails attacking me as a
"Jew lover" that you can imagine.~ Rush Limbaugh
I thought Streisand used to screech "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!" What, it's not any more? Six months hard labor for criticizing The Messiah, you say? Oh, my.
Which automatically makes her a liar. Salon.com is GENETICALLY INCAPABLE of truth telling. They lie to promote an agenda and I hear it's contributors are survivors of late term abortions themselves.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
Watched the show and Bill was able to get her so pissed that she admitted to the belief that Bill was the cause of the Tiller shooting. You have to appreciate that level of crazy. Where do we sign the commitment papers?
...and he got her to admit that she didn't care the reason, none at all, it was just peachy to kill a baby that could live on it's own.
Because that is the law she says.
Even though Tiller the Baby Killer broke that law numerous times in Kansas, with the help of Sebelius to-boot, but of course he donated big time to her campaign, that she just happened to remember at the last minute during her confirmation hearings before the Senators...and this filthy witch is now our Health Czar.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
That's what I've been thinking for a long time, slavery and Lincoln. If the law says it is ok to murder children we need another Lincoln to remove this black stain on the country's soul.
I find it truly amazing that Joan Walsh can come on TV, in front of millions, and loudly proclaim to have no morals.
bil o, you may not have noticed, actually apologized for his campaign of hate against tiller. regret? seems like it. blood on his hands? for sure. he admitted that what he had done was wrong. interesting. i think this interview was a disaster for bo. he looked like a lunatic, acted like one, then admitted to being a complete a-hole. wheres the upside?
I love his style of debate though, demean, denounce and detonate. i would have been interested to see these two have a proper debate on the subject of late term abortion, but that isnt what bo is selling. he's selling emotion, anger, resentment, posture. sad really, but a very good look at why our country is so divided. If you are one of the people who thought this 'interview' did anything productive then you are one of the people who are making our country suck. congratulations.
Oh go back to Dkos where you belong and take the other trolls with you while you're at it, that think some of us here don't know where you are coming from you useless piece of lint.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Did you guys watch it and do you agree with Walsh and her views?
...and by the way, BOR has nothing on Joan Walsh when it comes to talking over people, I've watched her do it for years, plus she tries the pity card, the oh I'm so offended that you would even imply that about me routine...and it usually always works for her when she is on any other network...this is the first time I remember her being on Fox.
She met her match...and she met her match with somebody who is passionate about late-term abortions and what Tiller the Baby Killer got away with all these years.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Exactly. Joan Walsh shouts, hisses and uses the most foul and untrue statements on every other network, especially her wacko home on MSDNC.
This time, however, she met the one guy on TV who put her right in her place. It was wonderful to see her smarmy, pissed-off face as Bill took her out, and didn't let her off the hook.
Joan, you're what is wrong with "mainstream" media. You clown.
He never said a thing about supporting any of the killers and 'terrorists' of abortion providers, yet she supports 100% "Dr." Tiller, who killed late term babies because the girl/woman wanted to compete in sports?
You didn't get this info from the O'Reilly interview? In between showing how tough he was, didn't O'Reilly describe the procedures and the laws?
Oh that's right, he was catering to the ET crowd.
Yea, he put that woman in her place, just like Rosie O'Donnel. But he didn't educate anyone on late term abortion , partial birth abortion, and how they overlap. Dumbpublican fodder.
Partial-birth is the usual method of late term abortion. The pro-aborition folks prefer the late-term terminology, since it doesn't describe the procedure.
There is also saline injection, which kills the baby inside the womb, but that takes longer. Or they can cut up the baby inside and remove the pieces.
All barbaric.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.-Bart Simpson
Didn't you watch the clips? The psychologist guy covered that.
"And second question, is there ever a time that late-term abortion is OK?"
If a woman's life is in danger, fine.....if a woman can't go to the rodeo, not fine. If a woman has a headache, or the sniffles....not fine. If a woman wants to abort her late term baby because she can't bear to see it adopted....not fine, AND, a lengthy stay in a mental institution is probably in order.
I think late term abortions are hideous and should be outlawed outright, no matter what the circumstance. Basically they suck out the brain out of a viable child. But Bill O'Reilly used the segment as a catch back episode. In all those lines he sought to make his case this woman had blood on her hands, he could've described how late term abortion works. But 99% of the time Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. He's an Entertainment Tonight idiot. The subject was late term abortion, not Bill O'Reilly. He lost that fact.
So once again, a person stands with right on their side and craps all over it for 15 minutes of more fame. Yay for you.
And yea I know O'Reilly is a populist and not a Republican . I called him a Dumbpublican, not Republican - there's a difference.
You will always try to find a reason to disagree...always.
People understood full well what he was talking about, and he has described what they do to baby when they kill it numerous times over the years, he had so much time to get his points in...I watched it live, maybe I need to watch it again, I don't know if he got that in or not...matters not to me anyway, he made the necessary points, and you are as usual just nit-picking.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
He had a young girl describe her visit with Tiller whose only words to her were "This will be over soon", injected the saline, and had her deliver the stillborn child in the toilet.
Thanks CA...you just jogged my memory...that he did.
Even if he went into longer detail, nw would find something to disagree with regarding his....it's his job, it's what he does.
JMHO
Btw...that gal has been on numerous shows, radio too, I heard her on Laura's show awhile back now, along with another gal later, that was involved with Tiller and crew.
Horrendous...all of it.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Which taught the young girl that the result of a pregnancy has no more value than s**t. And this is an aspect of the whole abortion argument that doesn't seem to get much attention. That we have a generation of young women who have been taught that it's okay to abrogate the natural law which assigns the female of the species the responsibility for the nurturing of offspring. And a generation of young men who believe they have no responsibility for the care of their offspring because it's a female's choice as to whether the offspring are to survive.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
I agree with nwahs.......I wish he had asked Walsh this question:
Under what conditions do you think it's OK to deliver most of the baby, insert scissors into the skull and vacuum out the baby's brain?
instead of yelling at her about how much money Tiller made. He tried too hard to be a bully when it wasn't necessary.
When Rick Santorum nailed Barbara Boxer with the question on the Senate floor about when the baby was actually "born," it was a sight to behold. BOR should have read that transcript to see how to calmly maker one's opponent hang herself with her own words. He had Boxer going absolutely nuts, and he never raised his voice.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.-Bart Simpson
I totally agree. BOR is too PC on pressing the actual issue (the "procedure" known as abortion), although nwahs and I would diverge in that I do give BOR credit still for at least calling the radical pro-abortionists out.
he did a great job of creating more ratings for himself by getting his irish up. everyone likes to watch bo hiss and spit and act offended. i hate the guy, but i cant stop watching when he gets himself all in a hissy.
well put earlier btw, republican dumbfodder or whatever. where was the debate? is this what the right calls news? you love to rag the 'msm' but this seems like perfectly acceptable journalism? you should watch john stewart rip up on the kramer guy, thats how you dismantle a guest on a news show(or a fake news show). when your done with that watch him shut down crossfire. makes bo look like a petulant child who just had his favorite toy stolen.
Would offhandedly dismiss 1% of about 1 million abortions, is repugnant and almost pathological. But nailing her to the wall is not as effective as describing how late term abortions work and how the ban on partial birth abortions is circumvented.
nwahs: I think I understand your point. But the exchange was about O'Reilly. It was about Walsh et al blaming O'Reilly for the killing of Tiller. That's why she called him vile. This was about Walsh and others forming a lynch mob against conservatives and using the Tiller murder as "evidence", while at the same time they defend the killing of the unborn - even those who would be viable outside the womb.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
"The subject was late term abortion, not Bill O'Reilly. He lost that fact."
Did you even watch the clips? The subject was about late term abortion AND the bogus article that this Salon nutjob wrote blaming BOR for Tiller's death.
As an aside, how out of your mind do you have to be to mourn the loss of this butcher, while showing zero remorse for the murder of 60,000 babies, sometimes for no reason other than not being able to go to the mall? Hell, at least Tiller had a semi-legitmate reason.....profit. This Walsh woman is just warped.
generally that is so...I thought that Rush Limbaugh did not do TTV well...anger...firm conviction does not usually go down well on TV but BOR does anger on TV better than anyone.....he gets his points in...shows his intensity and generally shows his anger only on very few issues and life/abortion is the premier issue for Catholic BOR,
Can we please refrain from calling aborters mothers. If we have to call a baby a fetus because it is still in the womb, then the woman should not be called a mother because they have no baby....let's not call someone who wants to brutally kill a living life form that they helped create a mother. Many of these women would watch me butcher a chicken and have a fit. You do not sedate them?!!! How horrible, you should not slice their juggular and let them hang upside down, alive, as they bleed out!!! It is a living creature.........
"Abortion advocates often deflect negative attention by insisting that late-term abortions are in the best interests of the babies that are aborted.
They claim that if the babies are not "terminated", they will live lives scarred by illness.
The truth is that the vast majority of the babies condemned to death by late-term abortion are healthy and capable of living meaningful lives."
"There also exists a common misconception that late-term abortions are limited to medical emergencies.
Nothing could be further from the truth. From 1998 until 2000, only one out of the 1168 abortions that Tiller performed after viability was done during a medical emergency.
Upwards of 97% of his late-term patients weren't even from Kansas—they flew in from other states to have abortions that they had scheduled in advance."
RG: It's my understanding that, including Tiller, there were only 3 "doctors" in the U.S. who were willing to perform these late-term procedures. If this is such a compassionate and necessary service, why aren't more doctors willing to participate?(A rhetorical question.)
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
Five steps to a partial birth abortion:
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1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's legs with forceps.
2) The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
3) The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.
5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
In 2004, as a candidate Barack Obama's wife Michelle, sent out a fundraising appeal to keep 'Partial Birth Abortion' a legitimate procedure and Constitutional right.
"U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that 'right-wing politicians' had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls. Michelle called partial-birth abortion 'a legitimate medical procedure,' and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against 'cynical ploy[s]' to stop it?"
I object to the notion that 'what Tiller did was lawful'. This is like saying what O.J. Simpson did was lawful, because through a travesty of justice he was found Not-Guilty in a court of law. Being found Not-Guilty doesn't put a stamp of societal or legal approval on your actions.
Tiller got off because he worked the legal system very successfully. Governor Sebelius was his principal supporter and she did all she could to shield him from proper prosecution. Those she appointed in the Kansas prosecutor's offices are advocates of unrestricted anytime any-reason abortion.
I am relieved that Tiller is dead, and many will live because of his death, but I do not approve of extra-legal murder of those that break the law. I see no contradiction in that statement.
When she said that she was okay with the 37 states outlawing partial birth abortion, he should have jumped in and asked why then, do we need Roe vs. Wade (which is bad law) to protect abortion at all, if she believes that states should have sway over an abortion procedure that she deems fully acceptable based on the mother's choice?
That would have left her chasing her tail. I hope someone picks up her comment and runs with it.
I'll begin by putting on my body language hat. It's obvious Walsh has rehearsed looking like a put-upon female. She's "shocked and appalled" that O'R "doesn't seem to care about the poor women".
Now, in the case of the 9-year old rape victim. Is there anything wrong with performing a late-term c-section and putting the baby up for adoption? Why is it more "compassionate" to kill the unborn child for the sake of "saving" the 9-year old?
In regard to the woman who is diagnosed with cancer during her pregnancy, I can share the account of how a personal friend's family dealt with this. Oncologists and neonatologists worked together to determine how long the mother should carry the child. The baby was delivered early by c-section and the mother immediately began treatment for her breast cancer. The baby is healthy and happy at this writing. The mother is still battling, but the baby brings much joy to all the family while they are coping with the mother's illness. BTW Ms. Walsh, this is the decision a true Catholic family would make. And the fact that Walsh calls herself a Catholic is disgusting. She obviously had to throw that in thinking this would somehow diminish O'R's argument. Again, using her purported Catholicism as a means to suggest that O'R's opposition to Tiller is not a moral issue, but perhaps more a matter of O'R's view of women. To consider Tiller a compassionate man and O'R's defense of the unborn "vile" is much more than I can wrap my head around.
As regards bringing guns into the argument - apples and oranges. The right to bear arms is clearly spelled out in our Constitution. For that matter, did anyone else notice that when Tiller was shot, all the anti-gun rhetoric was dragged out in the MsM? I didn't notice much anti-gun outrage when the Holocaust Museum shooter was himself shot. This is the "fly in the oinkment". Even though the possession of firearms by responsible citizens and law enforcement prevents more bloodshed, the left seems to think that once the good guys put down their guns, the bad guys will be influenced to do the same. And yet, people like Walsh demonize support of the 2nd Amendment as somehow being akin to supporting the killing of babies. What a stupid argument she made when she pointed out that anti-gun protestors have never influenced someone to kill. Of course they have. In places where the possession of firearms by law-abiding citizens is illegal, the criminals are free to kill in a heartbeat whomever the wish.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
O'Reilly talked over her, true...obnoxious...makes me feel like screaming "Shut Up!" But Ms Walsh said--out loud, finally--that a man who killed fetuses with saline solution was her hero. Come on. So I call it a tie. I thought Bill's supposedly pathetic clip of a 14-yr-old expelling her baby into a toilet was sensational--and begged the question of why did this young girl decide to terminate so late? Wasn't that the point he was trying to make--that some reasons were not so great? The whole segment sort of didn't make sense, actually.
I wish Bill would have pressed her more on the "Its legal" part of her argument. In that the whole constitutional part of his rights to protest it and educate people in order to get the law changed....instead he is demonized for disagreing with a "legal" procedure. Where as she is memorialized for working her side and trying to change the law where it is NOT legal.
"Someplace in the South there is a flamboyant slave owner who vehemently supports his right to own fellow human beings as his personal property and is infamous for treating them as sub-human. An abolitionist is so angry at this slaver's evil that he kills him, blows him away with a 12 gauge - both barrels.
Pro-slavers everywhere and dozens of newspapers in the South condemn the killing as a 'vigilante outrage'. Some even declare the murdered slaver as a 'saint' who defended the freedom of 'real people' to own things that aren't fully human.... The question to ask a pro-abortionist is: would you side with the pro-slavers or not?"
I'm not going to provide a link because it would be to a liberal blog that I don't want advertised.
I don't "side" with either. You can't murder someone because you disapprove of what they're doing. That's not how we do things in society. Is this an endorsement of vigilantism? So everyone should just take matters into their own hands now?
I don't like the fake choice that is shoved down my throat - either feel sorry for the doctor or condone the murder. I can't muster any more sympathy for the doctor than I could for a crack dealer who is killed in the streets. I don't condone murdering them, but I sure don't hate crack dealers simply because they break the law. I hate them because they destroy lives, and its very hard to feel sorry for one when they get killed selling dope .
I think what the murderer did was hideous on many levels. As you mentioned, it breaks down law and order. But on a more human level, it probably traumatized many innocent people around the event. To be honest, I don't have much sympathy for either one - the doctor or the murderer.
Liberal flakes like these are prime subjects of research for psychologists. Only problem is, the vast majority of psychologists share the same delusions.
You know-the guys who latched on to Ken Kesey's book One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest that caused a swell of anti-state-run mental health facilities (begun by the Liberal psychologists themselves back in the '50s), came into fruition under Reagan...and who now demonize Reagan for turning the mental patients out onto the streets? Yeah, these guys.
I have yet to meet a Libtard who does not consider himself to be an amateur psychologist.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
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Now this was priceless to
June 13, 2009 - 16:49 ET by bigtimerNow this was priceless to watch...what a great blog post to put here tonight!
...and she had the audacity to tell BOR he would be sorry.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I saw it too BT... BO was hardly sorry lol. I do pity her type
June 13, 2009 - 16:58 ET by pahuberas they really have such a messed up view of reality. They are totally lost mentally & spiritually.
pah... ...and Walsh
June 13, 2009 - 17:47 ET by bigtimerpah...
...and Walsh always does that don't interrupt me BS as she attempts to filibuster every conversation, she did the same thing on Matthews show about three months ago with somebody on the conservative side that I really like, and proceeded to try to shame him, and of course Matthews took her side, because the person said I wouldn't want to be married to you either or something along those lines....I loved it when I saw it, she is a witch from hell who has got a pass forever with her leftist talking points propaganda.
I despise Joan Walsh.
I'll think of the conservatives name about midnight...hehee
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I believe you BT. Thanks for the information on that interview
June 13, 2009 - 18:13 ET by pahuberthat I did not see. She deserved what she got plus more... I thought she looked so pathetically stupid last night that I almost felt sorry for her...shame on me (serious) as she is the type who would love to torture her opponents.
"I despise Joan Walsh."
With good reason BT... you are thinking clearly and see her for what she is. I should be rejoicing in her basting last night... and I am now : ) Keep me straight ; )
A Catholic who Celebrates the Destruction of Life
June 13, 2009 - 18:37 ET by allanfWalsh called herself a Catholic during the imbroglio.
O'Reilly said what Tiller did was lawful. Perhaps. But perhaps no one chose to investigate him agressively. People like Walsh and Kathleen (no coal) Sebelius protected this man, and allowed his late term abortion mill to operate on the edge of the law.
Walsh's vile and facile accusations against O'Reilly leave her exposed to similar charges.
She is not pro-choice, she is pro-abortion. She revels in the destruction of life. She eptomizes the left wing bomb throwing that is poisoning reasoned discussion today.
Yep allan...I aslo
June 13, 2009 - 18:37 ET by bigtimerYep allan...I also mentioned good old Kathleen below somewhere myself.
Lovely gals aren't they?
Just lovely.
Btw....It made me sick the Senators that voted for her on our side of the aisle.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Kathleen
June 13, 2009 - 18:45 ET by allanfUnfotunately, Kathleen (no coal) Sebelius is now Secretary of Health and Human services. I wish she had stayed in Kansas. Those people elected her and deserved the consequences.
Perhaps she gets some slack because her father was John Gilligan, the former Ohio Governor.
I agree, and you are correct.
June 13, 2009 - 19:30 ET by pahuber: )
Dick Armey
June 14, 2009 - 02:40 ET by karris56"I'll think of the conservatives name about midnight...hehee"
Dick Armey
karris.... Bingo!! THANK
June 14, 2009 - 14:00 ET by bigtimerkarris....
Bingo!!
THANK YOU!
That was absolutely priceless.
I saw the whole segment...but here is the part I am talking about.
Matthews was really offended later in the segment not shown here.
Since I knew who Walsh was from long before, along with her constant leftist blater I got a kick out of it.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
→ Yep
June 13, 2009 - 16:57 ET by Cool ArrowHaven't seen BOR so riled up since Bawney Fwank was on.
I'd rather Bill hadn't gotten so worked up, but this woman was lying out the flipside of her wazoo.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Her hypocrisy knows no bounds.
June 13, 2009 - 18:15 ET by dronetekDid she just say "don't demonize me", mere hours after she claimed Rush
Limbaugh, Hannity and Glenn Beck are too blame for this latest
shooting? Simply amazing.
This is a perfect
June 13, 2009 - 17:21 ET by iBlogThis whole "blame the rightwing media" is a perfect example of an overall liberal concept that individuals are not responsible for their own actions. For example, a crazy goes and shoots a doctor- it's not his fault that the radio & tv talkers made him get a gun and pull the trigger. A crazy shoots up Holocaust Memorial- again, rightwing talkers made him pick up his gun and go pull trigger. Crazies go shoot up schools- it's not their fault that they were picked on and treated poorly by the "in-crowd." This is all just their new way of making the 1980-90s argument that guns must be banned b/c guns (not the person pulling the trigger) are killing people. It's too bad the Libs don't apply this theory to their own comments like "the U.S. is a torture nation" that could much more realistically cause people to lash out in violence.
Oh. My. Gosh. She played
June 13, 2009 - 17:56 ET by motherbeltOh. My. Gosh.
She played the CATHOLIC CARD!!
Did she think that embellishes her arguments???
Was that supposed to make BOR fold like a cheap tent?
These people never offer a single example of a woman whose life was saved by having her baby half-delivered and its brain sucked out.
Here is a quote from a long time ago (I saved it)...an interview with Dr. Martin Haskell, one of the pioneers of partial-birth abortion. It originally appeared in the AMA's newspaper (emphasis added):
"And I'll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective in that 20-24 week range. . . . In my particular case, probably 20% [of this procedure] are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective." Regarding the fact that the cervix was not dilated wide enough to deliver the head, Haskell also admitted that "you could dilate further" and deliver the baby alive, but "that's not really the point. The point here is you're attempting to do an abortion. And that's the goal of your work, is to complete an abortion. Not to see how do I manipulate the situation so that I get a live birth instead."
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
I'm for a documentary showing an actual late term abortion
June 13, 2009 - 18:10 ET by Lord ErondLet the rabid left who support this vile, disgusting procedure watch it over and over and over so they can see what it is they support.
Tiller WAS a baby killer. Whether what he did was "legal" it was immoral and murder. I think his killer should be punished but I'm more glad that the murder factory is no longer cranking out death on a daily basis.
Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
LE... You don't know how
June 13, 2009 - 18:19 ET by bigtimerLE...
You don't know how much I'm with you on that....they should have to watch...sound and all.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
New York Times Frank Rich says Fox News anchor Shepard Smith
June 13, 2009 - 17:46 ET by Rush Fan"tied the far-right loners who had gotten their guns out in Wichita and Washington to the mounting fury of Obama haters."
The New York Times Frank Rich: "WHEN a Fox News anchor, reacting to his own network’s surging e-mail traffic, warns urgently on-camera of a rise in hate-filled, “amped up” Americans who are “taking the extra step and getting the gun out,” maybe we should listen. He has better sources in that underground than most."
.... "These are extraordinary words to hear on Fox. The network’s highest-rated star, Bill O’Reilly, had assailed Tiller, calling him “Tiller the baby killer” and likening him to the Nazis, on 29 of his shows before the doctor was murdered at his church in Kansas. O’Reilly was unrepentant, stating that only “pro-abortion zealots and Fox News haters” would link him to the crime. But now another Fox star, while stopping short of blaming O’Reilly, was breaching his network’s brand of political correctness: he tied the far-right loners who had gotten their guns out in Wichita and Washington to the mounting fury of Obama haters."
-----Here is a link to Shephard Smith's rant on Youtube.-----
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As for Shepard Smith whining and moaning and complaining
about e-mails, nobody needs to tell me about hateful e-mails, for
crying out loud. I get the most vile, sick e-mails attacking me as a
"Jew lover" that you can imagine.~ Rush Limbaugh
And they should read, when
June 13, 2009 - 17:55 ET by motherbeltAnd they should read, when she writes about them, the hatred that the left spews against Michelle Malkin!
Here are some samples that she included in her book
Warning: Extremely graphic!
But I guess calling someone who kills babies a "baby-killer" is WAY worse.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Oh the hypocrisy runs deep
June 13, 2009 - 18:27 ET by bigtimerOh the hypocrisy runs deep doesn't it mb with these leftist phonies....that was just so classy.
Actually, it's classic.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hey, Frank Rich....
June 13, 2009 - 17:56 ET by TexndocI thought Streisand used to screech "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!" What, it's not any more? Six months hard labor for criticizing The Messiah, you say? Oh, my.
Oh please, she's from Salon.com
June 13, 2009 - 17:55 ET by Lord ErondWhich automatically makes her a liar. Salon.com is GENETICALLY INCAPABLE of truth telling. They lie to promote an agenda and I hear it's contributors are survivors of late term abortions themselves.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
blame
June 13, 2009 - 17:58 ET by m1xramWatched the show and Bill was able to get her so pissed that she admitted to the belief that Bill was the cause of the Tiller shooting. You have to appreciate that level of crazy. Where do we sign the commitment papers?
m1... ...and he got her
June 13, 2009 - 18:03 ET by bigtimerm1...
...and he got her to admit that she didn't care the reason, none at all, it was just peachy to kill a baby that could live on it's own.
Because that is the law she says.
Even though Tiller the Baby Killer broke that law numerous times in Kansas, with the help of Sebelius to-boot, but of course he donated big time to her campaign, that she just happened to remember at the last minute during her confirmation hearings before the Senators...and this filthy witch is now our Health Czar.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
"Because that is the law
June 13, 2009 - 19:46 ET by ckc1227"Because that is the law she says."
I wonder if that means she was ok with slavery as practiced in the past? After all, that was the law, right?
time for a change
June 17, 2009 - 07:15 ET by m1xramSorry for the late reply...
That's what I've been thinking for a long time, slavery and Lincoln. If the law says it is ok to murder children we need another Lincoln to remove this black stain on the country's soul.
I find it truly amazing that Joan Walsh can come on TV, in front of millions, and loudly proclaim to have no morals.
we dont.
June 13, 2009 - 21:28 ET by dr_devil_dogbil o, you may not have noticed, actually apologized for his campaign of hate against tiller. regret? seems like it. blood on his hands? for sure. he admitted that what he had done was wrong. interesting. i think this interview was a disaster for bo. he looked like a lunatic, acted like one, then admitted to being a complete a-hole. wheres the upside?
I love his style of debate though, demean, denounce and detonate. i would have been interested to see these two have a proper debate on the subject of late term abortion, but that isnt what bo is selling. he's selling emotion, anger, resentment, posture. sad really, but a very good look at why our country is so divided. If you are one of the people who thought this 'interview' did anything productive then you are one of the people who are making our country suck. congratulations.
Oh go back to Dkos where
June 13, 2009 - 21:43 ET by bigtimerOh go back to Dkos where you belong and take the other trolls with you while you're at it, that think some of us here don't know where you are coming from you useless piece of lint.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Another liberal not
June 13, 2009 - 18:11 ET by gmaniac1Another liberal not admitting who they are and what they represent. I wonder why that is?
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
I wouldn't say O' Reily won the debate
June 13, 2009 - 19:20 ET by shawn228He reminds of of the loud hens on "The View" He just tries to talk over people when they try to get a point across.
He had my vote
BOR always wins these
June 13, 2009 - 19:42 ET by balboaBOR always wins these contests...shouting contests.
Did you guys watch it and
June 13, 2009 - 19:48 ET by bigtimerDid you guys watch it and do you agree with Walsh and her views?
...and by the way, BOR has nothing on Joan Walsh when it comes to talking over people, I've watched her do it for years, plus she tries the pity card, the oh I'm so offended that you would even imply that about me routine...and it usually always works for her when she is on any other network...this is the first time I remember her being on Fox.
She met her match...and she met her match with somebody who is passionate about late-term abortions and what Tiller the Baby Killer got away with all these years.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Exactly. Joan Walsh
June 13, 2009 - 20:09 ET by sms5217Exactly. Joan Walsh shouts, hisses and uses the most foul and untrue statements on every other network, especially her wacko home on MSDNC.
This time, however, she met the one guy on TV who put her right in her place. It was wonderful to see her smarmy, pissed-off face as Bill took her out, and didn't let her off the hook.
Joan, you're what is wrong with "mainstream" media. You clown.
Trial lawyers are the scum of the earth
"Joan, you're what is wrong
June 13, 2009 - 20:11 ET by ckc1227"Joan, you're what is wrong with "mainstream" media. You clown."
She's what's wrong with this country. There are too many like her.
I like how she implies it's
June 13, 2009 - 20:09 ET by ckc1227I like how she implies it's ok because Tiller was found not guilty. I guess that makes OJ murdering his wife ok too.
DId anyone notice
June 13, 2009 - 20:14 ET by guefyHe never said a thing about supporting any of the killers and 'terrorists' of abortion providers, yet she supports 100% "Dr." Tiller, who killed late term babies because the girl/woman wanted to compete in sports?
http://teleprompteri...
guefy...plus he was pretty
June 13, 2009 - 20:18 ET by bigtimerguefy...plus he was pretty wealthy off of murdering the helpless....a cool million a year or so...six thousand an agonizing death.
...and they say the Mafia is bad.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Two questions: When did he
June 13, 2009 - 20:19 ET by balboaTwo questions: When did he do that?
And second question, is there ever a time that late-term abortion is OK?
I can't think of an
June 13, 2009 - 20:55 ET by motherbeltI can't think of an occasion where I think it would be OK. the instances that Walsh used as examples did not require partial birth abortion.
How they got that crap passed as law I will never understand. From the beginning abortion was never meant to kill viable babies.
Do you have a scenario where the only way to save the mother's life is to deliver the baby and kill it?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
I was talking about
June 13, 2009 - 20:58 ET by balboaI was talking about late-term, MB. Is that the same as partial birth? I thought they were different.
You didn't get this info
June 13, 2009 - 21:18 ET by nwahsYou didn't get this info from the O'Reilly interview? In between showing how tough he was, didn't O'Reilly describe the procedures and the laws?
Oh that's right, he was catering to the ET crowd.
Yea, he put that woman in her place, just like Rosie O'Donnel. But he didn't educate anyone on late term abortion , partial birth abortion, and how they overlap. Dumbpublican fodder.
http://newsbusters.o...
Partial-birth is the usual
June 13, 2009 - 21:28 ET by motherbeltPartial-birth is the usual method of late term abortion. The pro-aborition folks prefer the late-term terminology, since it doesn't describe the procedure.
There is also saline injection, which kills the baby inside the womb, but that takes longer. Or they can cut up the baby inside and remove the pieces.
All barbaric.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Partial birth abortion is illegal
June 13, 2009 - 21:31 ET by nwahsBut, it can be covered up and it does happen in late term abortions .
Link here http://www.foxnews.c...
http://newsbusters.o...
§ Shawn!!! Say Hello!!! Long Time!!!
June 14, 2009 - 06:41 ET by TheSterYeah....
I'm still alive...
WE don't agree....
Anyway...what did I miss this past MONTH?!?!?
Help me out?
Talk to ME?!?!?
Ster.
Now I'm going to ask you the same question again, and if you say "No", I'm going to shoot you in the head. Do you have any cheese?
Does the "s" in your
June 14, 2009 - 06:26 ET by ckc1227Does the "s" in your screenname stand for stupid?
No need to answer, we already know....
"Two questions: When did he
June 14, 2009 - 06:34 ET by ckc1227"Two questions: When did he do that?"
Didn't you watch the clips? The psychologist guy covered that.
"And second question, is there ever a time that late-term abortion is OK?"
If a woman's life is in danger, fine.....if a woman can't go to the rodeo, not fine. If a woman has a headache, or the sniffles....not fine. If a woman wants to abort her late term baby because she can't bear to see it adopted....not fine, AND, a lengthy stay in a mental institution is probably in order.
ET for Dumbpublicans
June 13, 2009 - 20:21 ET by nwahsI think late term abortions are hideous and should be outlawed outright, no matter what the circumstance. Basically they suck out the brain out of a viable child. But Bill O'Reilly used the segment as a catch back episode. In all those lines he sought to make his case this woman had blood on her hands, he could've described how late term abortion works. But 99% of the time Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. He's an Entertainment Tonight idiot. The subject was late term abortion, not Bill O'Reilly. He lost that fact.
So once again, a person stands with right on their side and craps all over it for 15 minutes of more fame. Yay for you.
And yea I know O'Reilly is a populist and not a Republican . I called him a Dumbpublican, not Republican - there's a difference.
http://newsbusters.o...
BOR has aggravated a lot of
June 13, 2009 - 20:21 ET by bigtimerBOR has aggravated a lot of us now and then here and we say so...but he slapped that cold-hearted leftist b!tch down as she needed to be.
Period.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
More than describing late term abortion
June 13, 2009 - 20:24 ET by nwahsYou think that was more effective than accurately describing how late term abortion works, and the viability of the children involved?
http://newsbusters.o...
He did a good
June 13, 2009 - 20:31 ET by bigtimerHe did a good job.
Period.
You will always try to find a reason to disagree...always.
People understood full well what he was talking about, and he has described what they do to baby when they kill it numerous times over the years, he had so much time to get his points in...I watched it live, maybe I need to watch it again, I don't know if he got that in or not...matters not to me anyway, he made the necessary points, and you are as usual just nit-picking.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
What percentage of America
June 13, 2009 - 20:39 ET by nwahsHow many people in America understand how late term abortion works and the viability of the children it conducted on?
Bigtimer, how many children were killed last year, that were viable outside of the womb? That's the point. Not flame bait.
http://newsbusters.o...
→ bt
June 13, 2009 - 20:40 ET by Cool ArrowHe had a young girl describe her visit with Tiller whose only words to her were "This will be over soon", injected the saline, and had her deliver the stillborn child in the toilet.
♣ a seal
Thanks CA...you just jogged
June 13, 2009 - 20:43 ET by bigtimerThanks CA...you just jogged my memory...that he did.
Even if he went into longer detail, nw would find something to disagree with regarding his....it's his job, it's what he does.
JMHO
Btw...that gal has been on numerous shows, radio too, I heard her on Laura's show awhile back now, along with another gal later, that was involved with Tiller and crew.
Horrendous...all of it.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Which taught the young girl
June 14, 2009 - 12:02 ET by QueenMumWhich taught the young girl that the result of a pregnancy has no more value than s**t. And this is an aspect of the whole abortion argument that doesn't seem to get much attention. That we have a generation of young women who have been taught that it's okay to abrogate the natural law which assigns the female of the species the responsibility for the nurturing of offspring. And a generation of young men who believe they have no responsibility for the care of their offspring because it's a female's choice as to whether the offspring are to survive.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
I agree with nwahs.......I
June 13, 2009 - 21:14 ET by motherbeltI agree with nwahs.......I wish he had asked Walsh this question:
Under what conditions do you think it's OK to deliver most of the baby, insert scissors into the skull and vacuum out the baby's brain?
instead of yelling at her about how much money Tiller made. He tried too hard to be a bully when it wasn't necessary.
When Rick Santorum nailed Barbara Boxer with the question on the Senate floor about when the baby was actually "born," it was a sight to behold. BOR should have read that transcript to see how to calmly maker one's opponent hang herself with her own words. He had Boxer going absolutely nuts, and he never raised his voice.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Amen
June 13, 2009 - 21:21 ET by nwahsAmen. Its horrendous. And it has to be described to people who don't know what it is and how its covered up.
http://newsbusters.o...
I'll third that motion
June 15, 2009 - 12:16 ET by lotrI totally agree. BOR is too PC on pressing the actual issue (the "procedure" known as abortion), although nwahs and I would diverge in that I do give BOR credit still for at least calling the radical pro-abortionists out.
"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann
I had to look it up
June 13, 2009 - 21:47 ET by amberI had to look it up because I did not remember that. It was inspired.
a good job of what?
June 13, 2009 - 21:41 ET by dr_devil_doghe did a great job of creating more ratings for himself by getting his irish up. everyone likes to watch bo hiss and spit and act offended. i hate the guy, but i cant stop watching when he gets himself all in a hissy.
well put earlier btw, republican dumbfodder or whatever. where was the debate? is this what the right calls news? you love to rag the 'msm' but this seems like perfectly acceptable journalism? you should watch john stewart rip up on the kramer guy, thats how you dismantle a guest on a news show(or a fake news show). when your done with that watch him shut down crossfire. makes bo look like a petulant child who just had his favorite toy stolen.
That fact that this woman
June 13, 2009 - 21:49 ET by nwahsWould offhandedly dismiss 1% of about 1 million abortions, is repugnant and almost pathological. But nailing her to the wall is not as effective as describing how late term abortions work and how the ban on partial birth abortions is circumvented.
http://newsbusters.o...
nwahs: I think I understand
June 14, 2009 - 12:18 ET by QueenMumnwahs: I think I understand your point. But the exchange was about O'Reilly. It was about Walsh et al blaming O'Reilly for the killing of Tiller. That's why she called him vile. This was about Walsh and others forming a lynch mob against conservatives and using the Tiller murder as "evidence", while at the same time they defend the killing of the unborn - even those who would be viable outside the womb.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
"The subject was late term
June 14, 2009 - 06:19 ET by ckc1227"The subject was late term abortion, not Bill O'Reilly. He lost that fact."
Did you even watch the clips? The subject was about late term abortion AND the bogus article that this Salon nutjob wrote blaming BOR for Tiller's death.
As an aside, how out of your mind do you have to be to mourn the loss of this butcher, while showing zero remorse for the murder of 60,000 babies, sometimes for no reason other than not being able to go to the mall? Hell, at least Tiller had a semi-legitmate reason.....profit. This Walsh woman is just warped.
Radio is a hot medium..TV a cool medium
June 13, 2009 - 21:14 ET by Paarlgenerally that is so...I thought that Rush Limbaugh did not do TTV well...anger...firm conviction does not usually go down well on TV but BOR does anger on TV better than anyone.....he gets his points in...shows his intensity and generally shows his anger only on very few issues and life/abortion is the premier issue for Catholic BOR,
Kudos to him
Paarl of Rhodesia
Paarl... I agree. On
June 13, 2009 - 21:25 ET by bigtimerPaarl...
I agree.
On the other hand, I really liked Rush's show on television, I hated it when he left.
Oh well....still get them both when we want...so that's a good thing...so far anyway.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
decision of the mother
June 13, 2009 - 22:07 ET by amberCan we please refrain from calling aborters mothers. If we have to call a baby a fetus because it is still in the womb, then the woman should not be called a mother because they have no baby....let's not call someone who wants to brutally kill a living life form that they helped create a mother. Many of these women would watch me butcher a chicken and have a fit. You do not sedate them?!!! How horrible, you should not slice their juggular and let them hang upside down, alive, as they bleed out!!! It is a living creature.........
Tiller Claimed his "Job" was in the Best Interest of the Babies
June 14, 2009 - 06:28 ET by Retired Geek"Abortion advocates often deflect negative attention by insisting that late-term abortions are in the best interests of the babies that are aborted.
They claim that if the babies are not "terminated", they will live lives scarred by illness.
The truth is that the vast majority of the babies condemned to death by late-term abortion are healthy and capable of living meaningful lives."
"There also exists a common misconception that late-term abortions are limited to medical emergencies.
Nothing could be further from the truth. From 1998 until 2000, only one out of the 1168 abortions that Tiller performed after viability was done during a medical emergency.
Upwards of 97% of his late-term patients weren't even from Kansas—they flew in from other states to have abortions that they had scheduled in advance."
http://www.kdhe.stat....
http://www.abortione...
http://www.jillstane...
RG: It's my understanding
June 14, 2009 - 11:25 ET by QueenMumRG: It's my understanding that, including Tiller, there were only 3 "doctors" in the U.S. who were willing to perform these late-term procedures. If this is such a compassionate and necessary service, why aren't more doctors willing to participate?(A rhetorical question.)
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
Obama's and Partial Birth Abortions
June 14, 2009 - 06:31 ET by Retired GeekFive steps to a partial birth abortion:
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1) Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's legs with forceps.
2) The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
3) The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
4) The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the skull.
5) The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
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In 2004, as a candidate Barack Obama's wife Michelle, sent out a fundraising appeal to keep 'Partial Birth Abortion' a legitimate procedure and Constitutional right.
"U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that 'right-wing politicians' had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls. Michelle called partial-birth abortion 'a legitimate medical procedure,' and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against 'cynical ploy[s]' to stop it?"
Re 'Lawful'
June 14, 2009 - 09:42 ET by slickwillie2001I object to the notion that 'what Tiller did was lawful'. This is like saying what O.J. Simpson did was lawful, because through a travesty of justice he was found Not-Guilty in a court of law. Being found Not-Guilty doesn't put a stamp of societal or legal approval on your actions.
Tiller got off because he worked the legal system very successfully. Governor Sebelius was his principal supporter and she did all she could to shield him from proper prosecution. Those she appointed in the Kansas prosecutor's offices are advocates of unrestricted anytime any-reason abortion.
I am relieved that Tiller is dead, and many will live because of his death, but I do not approve of extra-legal murder of those that break the law. I see no contradiction in that statement.
I think Bill missed a perfect, albeit slightly off-topic
June 14, 2009 - 09:47 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltopportunity.
When she said that she was okay with the 37 states outlawing partial birth abortion, he should have jumped in and asked why then, do we need Roe vs. Wade (which is bad law) to protect abortion at all, if she believes that states should have sway over an abortion procedure that she deems fully acceptable based on the mother's choice?
That would have left her chasing her tail. I hope someone picks up her comment and runs with it.
I'll begin by putting on my
June 14, 2009 - 11:21 ET by QueenMumI'll begin by putting on my body language hat. It's obvious Walsh has rehearsed looking like a put-upon female. She's "shocked and appalled" that O'R "doesn't seem to care about the poor women".
Now, in the case of the 9-year old rape victim. Is there anything wrong with performing a late-term c-section and putting the baby up for adoption? Why is it more "compassionate" to kill the unborn child for the sake of "saving" the 9-year old?
In regard to the woman who is diagnosed with cancer during her pregnancy, I can share the account of how a personal friend's family dealt with this. Oncologists and neonatologists worked together to determine how long the mother should carry the child. The baby was delivered early by c-section and the mother immediately began treatment for her breast cancer. The baby is healthy and happy at this writing. The mother is still battling, but the baby brings much joy to all the family while they are coping with the mother's illness. BTW Ms. Walsh, this is the decision a true Catholic family would make. And the fact that Walsh calls herself a Catholic is disgusting. She obviously had to throw that in thinking this would somehow diminish O'R's argument. Again, using her purported Catholicism as a means to suggest that O'R's opposition to Tiller is not a moral issue, but perhaps more a matter of O'R's view of women. To consider Tiller a compassionate man and O'R's defense of the unborn "vile" is much more than I can wrap my head around.
As regards bringing guns into the argument - apples and oranges. The right to bear arms is clearly spelled out in our Constitution. For that matter, did anyone else notice that when Tiller was shot, all the anti-gun rhetoric was dragged out in the MsM? I didn't notice much anti-gun outrage when the Holocaust Museum shooter was himself shot. This is the "fly in the oinkment". Even though the possession of firearms by responsible citizens and law enforcement prevents more bloodshed, the left seems to think that once the good guys put down their guns, the bad guys will be influenced to do the same. And yet, people like Walsh demonize support of the 2nd Amendment as somehow being akin to supporting the killing of babies. What a stupid argument she made when she pointed out that anti-gun protestors have never influenced someone to kill. Of course they have. In places where the possession of firearms by law-abiding citizens is illegal, the criminals are free to kill in a heartbeat whomever the wish.
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
A little late, but
June 15, 2009 - 12:26 ET by lotrgreat post, QueenMum, on all counts. I especially appreciate your real-world examples of clear-cut alternatives to late-term abortions.
"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann
Bill was bellicose, but she said what she said
June 14, 2009 - 11:25 ET by StarAZO'Reilly talked over her, true...obnoxious...makes me feel like screaming "Shut Up!" But Ms Walsh said--out loud, finally--that a man who killed fetuses with saline solution was her hero. Come on. So I call it a tie. I thought Bill's supposedly pathetic clip of a 14-yr-old expelling her baby into a toilet was sensational--and begged the question of why did this young girl decide to terminate so late? Wasn't that the point he was trying to make--that some reasons were not so great? The whole segment sort of didn't make sense, actually.
Hypocrisy knows no bounds
June 14, 2009 - 11:54 ET by SnappyI wish Bill would have pressed her more on the "Its legal" part of her argument. In that the whole constitutional part of his rights to protest it and educate people in order to get the law changed....instead he is demonized for disagreing with a "legal" procedure. Where as she is memorialized for working her side and trying to change the law where it is NOT legal.
Question for Liberals
June 14, 2009 - 12:07 ET by slickwillie2001"Someplace in the South there is a flamboyant slave owner who vehemently supports his right to own fellow human beings as his personal property and is infamous for treating them as sub-human. An abolitionist is so angry at this slaver's evil that he kills him, blows him away with a 12 gauge - both barrels.
Pro-slavers everywhere and dozens of newspapers in the South condemn the killing as a 'vigilante outrage'. Some even declare the murdered slaver as a 'saint' who defended the freedom of 'real people' to own things that aren't fully human.... The question to ask a pro-abortionist is: would you side with the pro-slavers or not?"
I'm not going to provide a link because it would be to a liberal blog that I don't want advertised.
I don't "side" with either.
June 14, 2009 - 12:21 ET by balboaI don't "side" with either. You can't murder someone because you disapprove of what they're doing. That's not how we do things in society. Is this an endorsement of vigilantism? So everyone should just take matters into their own hands now?
I don't either
June 14, 2009 - 19:03 ET by nwahsI don't like the fake choice that is shoved down my throat - either feel sorry for the doctor or condone the murder. I can't muster any more sympathy for the doctor than I could for a crack dealer who is killed in the streets. I don't condone murdering them, but I sure don't hate crack dealers simply because they break the law. I hate them because they destroy lives, and its very hard to feel sorry for one when they get killed selling dope .
I think what the murderer did was hideous on many levels. As you mentioned, it breaks down law and order. But on a more human level, it probably traumatized many innocent people around the event. To be honest, I don't have much sympathy for either one - the doctor or the murderer.
http://newsbusters.o...
right wing idiot
June 15, 2009 - 14:22 ET by rowdygirlWonder what she means by "don't demonize me, you'll be sorry"?
sounds like an right wing extremist threat to me. ...watch out Bill.
Liberal flakes like these
June 15, 2009 - 14:34 ET by RR GOPLiberal flakes like these are prime subjects of research for psychologists. Only problem is, the vast majority of psychologists share the same delusions.
You know-the guys who latched on to Ken Kesey's book One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest that caused a swell of anti-state-run mental health facilities (begun by the Liberal psychologists themselves back in the '50s), came into fruition under Reagan...and who now demonize Reagan for turning the mental patients out onto the streets? Yeah, these guys.
I have yet to meet a Libtard who does not consider himself to be an amateur psychologist.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).