Makes a nice contrast with Tom Tancredo

The Napolitano Reeducation Camp.

Liberty dies, not with a sudden "bang," but with a long, drawn-out whimper.

That's a paraphrase of someone else, I know. But aprobos in this case, I feel. 

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams

This is a taste of what is coming. Fascism can come in with a bang as it did in 1932 in Germany or it can sneak in and become bolder as time goes by as Chavez is doing in Venezuela. either way it still is ugly and the foe of liberty.

Is this the change that 52% of the voters wanted? 

Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!

www.loyaltoliberty.com

You say John was "arrested." Has he actually been charged with any crime? Or was this just a kind of "bum's rush" off-campus?

Looks like they pretty much man-handled him. Wonder if they'd be as aggressive with Code Pink, the WWF, or PETA protesters?

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams

I was going to immediately fire off an email to the Dean, but he seems to be fairly well hidden.

The picture that accompanies this article could very well belong to Nazi Germany.

I don't know why (maybe the picture with the brown shirted guards). but I'm am flabbergasted at this.

...mooching off the OT posts again:

http://newsbusters.o...

-Just kidding. Heck, not even Noel can type that fast.  :-)

There were some over at HotAir that made the argument that since USC is a "prvate" institution that they had every right to run Ziegler off the campus.

I watched it twice, and it appeared that he was actually standing in what looked to me laike a public Right-of-Way.

I bet if he were a flaming lefty and did something like this at a conservative institution, the MSM would be rushing to his defense.

-Dave

Ziegler just made himself look stupid.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Compare the treatment:  When a conservative group or speaker comes to talk at a college campus, the security does nothing to stop protestors and plants from storming INTO the building, rushing the stage, heckling, throwing things and other such behavior.

But when ONE conservative shows up at a gathering of liberals patting themselves on the back for 'getting away with it', then security leaps into action with manhandling, handcuffs, jail threats, intimidation and bullying.

These are your institutions of 'higher learning' folks.  Is it any wonder why so many of our youth today are a bunch of clueless dunderheads who can't take hearing an opposing viewpoint?

They're cultivating a crop of tyranny folks.  Imagine ACORN running amok during the next election, using the same tactics to scare conservatives away from polling stations, while the media smiles and nods and says nothing is wrong....

I am a believer in the overall goodness of our police and security forces.  It is often a thankless job that has a large share of risk to the individual officer.  Officers also receive a great deal of criticism and guff from the public, being smeared with broad brushstrokes resulting from a few bad apples.

The number one task of an officer, IMO, is to remain in control of the situation (within the constraints of the law and their job description).  An officer who loses control of the situation risks losing their life.

But, this must be tempered by respecting boundaries of the public they come in contact with, knowing where the line has been crossed into illegality or danger which requires action beyond words.  When action is required, the officer should do the minimum required by the situation in order to assert control of the situation.

Knowing the "minimum" amount of action required is where things get grey and are subject to interpretaion.

School campuses are open to the public, but, there are rules that must be observed.  If you are deemed to be disruptive or danger to the campus environment then you may be asked to leave, whether you are a student, teacher, administrator, delivery person or a visitor of any ilk.

What constitutes as "disruptive" is also a grey area, subject to interpretation.

What is similar in these two grey areas is that a single individual makes the decision of what is acceptable:  In the first case it is an officer; in the second it is an administrator.  Each is within their job description to make these decisions.  Whether their decisions are "legal" matters little at that time, for the action put into play by these decisions will be immediate.  At that moment, arguing the decision is futile.  The decision will be carried out.  The only remaining power the dissenter has is whether the resultant action goes easier or harder on them.  The time for meaningful dissent and adjudication is afterwards, whether in a court of law or the court of public opinion.

Having said that, the University was within their parameters to ask Ziegler to leave.  The officers gave ample opportunity for Ziegler to leave without further action.  When Ziegler continued to refuse to leave, the officers were within their parameters to remove and/or arrest him. 

I thought the officers showed restraint in this situation.  Ziegler continued to refuse to leave, physically resisting being walked out.  It only takes a little bit of applied pressure to cause non-injurious pain to the wrist which helped induce Ziegler to move along.  He's lucky he wasn't hogtied and carried out like a fool.  IMO the officers did as they should have given the parameters of their jobs.  Resisting an officer's directive is usually stupid.  They are trained to control a situation and will usually win in the moment, oftentimes to the detriment of the individual - "Don't taze me bro!"

The real question is whether the University's administrative weasel made an appropriate decision in having Zeigler leave/removed.

I like Ziegler's work in documenting the vicious battle of the Dem's and MSM against Palin.  But, his behaviour at the University was over the top.  Ziegler made a goofy situation worse.  This smelled of self-aggrandizement more than martrydom or good investigative journalism.

I may buy another one for my parents. 

You can legally parse whether or not John was on private property and being handcuffed after being asked to leave.

HOWEVER...

It's a pretty pathetic statement about your University that prides itself on tolerance and diversity of opinion when you give a guy who's trying to cover a significant shift in Mainstream Media and gets treated like an Al-Qaeda terrorist. 

I hope this bites USC square in the ass.

On a separate note, the UNC basketball team wins pride for it's institution at the same time the screaming liberal morons of the same said university disgrace it by embarassing Tom Tancredo during a speech.  And it's safe to say after watching both videos that Ziegler's behavior didn't get any where NEAR what the UNC liberal larvae did.

"Please get your facts right, then you may distort them as you please"  -Mark Twain

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Having had  a couple of interactions with John Zeigler, I have no doubt that HE CAUSED A PROBLEM INTENTIONALLY  in order to get himself thrown out in cuffs.  Zeigler is as DISHONEST as they come. He is a racist apologist who hides his racism behind a thin veneer of conservatism. I was surprised to see him doing Palin's documentary since that's kind of far from his usual beat, however ANYTHING that this man produces should be taken with a grain of salt. 

Zeigler had a radio show in L.A. I have no idea if it's still on, it might be. Anyway on this particular day Zeigler was in high dudgeon over an allegation by the Los Angeles city council about institutional racism in the Police dept. Keep in mind that one of the particular precincts being discussed had a history of not only racism and corruption but drug dealing and MURDER. This would be the "Rampart" division.  The federal government had to come in and all but DISBAND the entire precinct! A lot of cops went to jail and HUNDREDS of cases were eventually thrown out because of tampering with evidence by the police. The principal witness which started the whole ball of wax unraveling was a drug dealer who had been working FOR some of the cops! When he had outlived his usefulness they tried to kill him and only ended up paralyzing him. Once he turned states evidence, the whole Rampart house of cards came tumbling down. There were also scores of cops who the government believed to have been involved in corruption but did not have sufficient proof against, these cops were re-assigned to other locations. 

Okay, enough back story. On the day of this discussion, I called Zeiglers show. He ranted about "reverse racism" being at the core of the City Council's allegations despite the fact that these were who had ADMITTEDLY blackmailed, sold drugs and engaged in murder for hire. He insisted in no uncertain terms DESPITE FEDERAL FINDINGS TO THE CONTRARY, that the FIRE DEP'T, which had been found guilty of racism on multiple occasions going back fifty years and continuing to this day, was "convicted" on trumped up charges and that there was NO SUCH THING AS "INSTITUTIONAL" RACISM.

While I was on hold during the newsbreak, the news ON HIS OWN STATION, reported on the results of a year long probe which found institutional racism in not only the Police Department but in the Fire dept as well. For those of you not versed in California history, the Fire dep't has long been under scrutiny for it's racism and has had it's leadership  changed many times because of findings that the racism flowed from the TOP down.

When the program resumed and Zeigler put me back on the air, I asked him if he would like to change the rant about "no institutional racism" in light of his own stations report. He then feigned ignorance of the report that was just issued! Fortunately I was not only listening, I was writing at the time and had taken notes on the details of the report! He then proceeded to "poo-poo" as politically motivated a report that he had allegedly never heard about. THEN, when I pointed out that the findings were released by a bi-partisan committee which featured Republicans as well as democrat lawmakers, he then questioned the conservatism of the as yet unnamed Republicans. 

He didn't want to know the truth and when something got in the way of his racist denial, he just lied like a liberal and pretended he didn't know anything about it. John Zeigler is a LIAR and the truth is NOT in him.