As much as the 2008 presidential election was a battle between socialism and capitalism in America, so too is the highly-publicized feud between Comedy Central's Jon Stewart and CNBC's Jim Cramer.
Even their last names begin with the same letters as the economic philosophies they're defending.
Of course, the press coverage of the main event -- Cramer appearing on "The Daily Show" Thursday to face his accuser -- is also emblematic of this war with the liberal media cheering for Stewart, and those on the right clearly in the "Mad Money" host's corner.
Despite CNBC's low ratings, a Google news search of the contestants' names produced 1391 results. Even the Associated Press weighed in:
The feud between Jon Stewart and CNBC's Jim Cramer has been good for laughs - and ratings - but has also raised the serious question of whether the experts at TV's No. 1 financial news network should have seen the meltdown coming and warned the public.
Over the past two weeks, Stewart's "Daily Show" on Comedy Central has ridiculed CNBC personalities, including Cramer, the manic host of "Mad Money," by airing video clips of them making exuberantly bullish statements about the market and various investment banks shortly before they collapsed.
Stewart has charged that people at CNBC knew what was going on behind the scenes on Wall Street but didn't tell the public. He has accused CNBC anchors and pundits of abandoning their journalistic duties and acting like cheerleaders for the market.
In the end, the ignorance displayed by Stewart and those supporting him has been nothing less than staggering.
To begin with, if viewers and commentators are to take Stewart seriously and not hide behind this being a comedy program and him being a comedian -- a defense often employed by the left to shelter "The Daily Show" from any criticism -- his positions concerning the economy, the financial crisis, and the coverage of both by CNBC are -- forgive the pun -- laughable.
For example, Stewart finds it inappropriate that CNBC personalities interview and/or quote CEOs and CFOs concerning what's going on at their respective companies because they're clearly presenting facts and figures that are almost exclusively painting a positive picture regardless of accuracy.
Well, should company representatives therefore not be interviewed by anyone? Should the presumption be that every representative of every corporation is biased and therefore can't be trusted?
If such is the case, shouldn't the same be true of everyone in America including politicians? After all, doesn't anyone that goes in front of a camera or behind a microphone have an agenda, even including comedians such as Stewart who are stepping into the political and economic arenas?
Let's be clear: CNBC is indeed a financial news network. As such, it reports information about companies when it is made available the bulk of which comes from the companies in question.
Is there any other way of doing it?
Maybe more important, this decade's Sarbanes-Oxley legislation imposed strict reporting requirements on companies and their executives making it criminal for them to falsify information.
With this in mind, what else should a financial outlet such as CNBC do to ensure the information it is presenting is accurate? And, why should it be the only one under such pressure?
If folks are looking to point fingers, why go after a cable network that averages about 300,000 viewers -- or one-tenth of one percent of the population -- in any given hour?
The overwhelming majority of Americans buying and selling stocks and real estate isn't watching CNBC or getting its investment ideas from them.
If Stewart is really angry about the lack of coverage concerning an imminent collapse at banks and brokerage firms, where's his outrage for the bigger players in the industry such as ABC, CBS, and NBC? As their combined reach is in the many millions -- their nightly news programs themselves garner almost 20 million viewers every evening -- shouldn't they be criticized for laying down on the job?
And what of the print media such as the New York Times, the Washington Post, and USA Today? These publications have business sections. Why didn't they warn readers about the looming financial crisis and recommend everyone sell out of stocks and real estate as well as pull their money out of banks before the bottom fell out?
Want to know why? Well, the first reason is that no news outlet wants to be responsible for creating a financial panic. This is an inconvenient truth that has been sadly missing in this debate.
Yet, more importantly, even the best traders, analysts, and economists are lucky to be correct 60 percent of the time.
For instance, there has been a lot of examination concerning Cramer's recommendations on "Mad Money" since its inception, and throughout the show's history he's been wrong almost as often as he's been right.
As people who have been investing most of their adult lives know, this is an occupational hazard.
Even one of the most respected stock pickers in the world -- Warren Buffett -- never saw this financial collapse coming as his Berkshire Hathaway lost more than 50 percent of its value from December 2007 to December 2008.
Taking this a step further, one of the champion's of the left, MoveOn.org financier George Soros, got killed in last year's stock collapse. His hedge fund even purchased a sizable stake in Lehman Brothers just a few weeks before it declared bankruptcy.
As such, two of the world's most successful investors -- both Obama supporters, by the way!!! -- lost huge amounts of money in this financial crisis.
If these two market gurus didn't correctly position themselves and their funds to at least not suffer financially or even benefit from the crisis by either being short stocks or long bearish vehicles such as puts, why should folks reporting events be held to a higher standard?
Shouldn't we use the old axiom "Those who can do, and those who can't teach?"
Regardless of hindsight being 20/20, virtually no one saw the collapse of the financial services industry coming, and, for the most part, those now claiming they did have been bearish for many years missing most of the bull market as they prognosticated gloom and doom.
Such folk -- referred to as "permabears" because they're always short and always betting on the economy's decline -- now pat themselves on the back for being prescient despite betting against America's success -- and LOSING! -- for years nay decades.
Of course, now that the collapse has occurred, these people are held up as heroes by those secretly hoping for capitalism's demise despite not having financial skin in the game.
How convenient.
On the flipside, as it pertains to real estate, CNBC has been offering bearish opinions concerning the housing bubble for years, and well before it burst. Its real estate correspondent Diana Olick was warning viewers about inflating housing prices since the middle part of this decade, and even has a blog at CNBC.com discussing such matters called "Realty Check." I doubt any network on television did more to caution America about what was going on in residential real estate than CNBC.
That said, given CNBC's small viewership, the reality is the scorn being heaped upon it by folks like Stewart really has nothing to do with its coverage last year or in the run-up to September's maelstrom. If it did, such criticism would have begun last year.
No, this is about personalities Rick Santelli and Jim Cramer making negative comments about Obama's economic policies, and the left can't have that.
As a result, a cable network with an almost embarrassingly low number of viewers has suddenly become a target of an astounding amount of disingenuous criticism.
Just imagine the kind of scorn that might confront one of the country's larger news organizations if it has the nerve to question our new president in the future.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.




















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John Stewart is an idiot
March 15, 2009 - 10:22 ET by BlazerJohn Stewart is an idiot and a coward. This guy fling's his poo-poo from a partisan standpoint, hardly ever call's a fellow liberal out and when anyone takes issue with his credibilility or biasedness, he barrel roll's behind his comedian personna.
Hey, I'm just a comedian on a stupid show, on Comedy Central why would anyone take me seriously.
I actually respect Bill Maher more than John Stewart. At least Maher is an unabashed moonbat and makes no excuses for it and he actually takes himself seriously.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Cramer is a liberal obama supporter...
March 15, 2009 - 13:29 ET by sawing battaliberals dont reject capitalism...they dont embrace it fully, but at least they get it....Cramer's a liberal...he just spent enough time working at a Fund to understand capitalism...Stewart must be a commie...
The title should be more like Liberalism vs Socialism.
In this discussion a liberal (cramer) is the Right side of the spectrum in these debates...in this way, Stewart's pretty smart in redefining the right as Jim Cramer and creating the middle ground as somewhere between liberalism and socialism.
liberals dont reject
March 15, 2009 - 13:37 ET by Blazerliberals dont reject capitalism...they dont embrace it fully
I beg to differ. Limousine Liberal politician's embrace it fully, just like the soviet's in The Kremlin livin' high on the hog did. We're just not supposed to.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
→ Kicking Buffoons
March 15, 2009 - 10:39 ET by Cool ArrowWhat I remember was the constant painting of Ron Paul as some sort of buffoon for his economic ideas.
I remember Glenn Beck shouting "get out! get out!"
I remember sarcasmo calling our attention to the Credit Default Swap market (a quasi-insurance sector worth $52 Trillion at the time)
Lots of us knew, but we were so busy debating the clinical definition of "recession" that some of us continued whistling.
Obama is succeeding and it hurts
Once again, a reasoned thoughtful analysis from teh King.
March 15, 2009 - 10:43 ET by JWFAnd there is not much more we can add.
I have been loathe to comment on the clash. I don't watch either show.
The problem with shows like Mr. Cramers': If you own the stocks you are touting, you appear to be in it just to lift the prices. If you don't own the stocks you tout, well why the hell not if you think they are so great.
The problem with Mr. Stewart: Again and again, he criticises other shows for not elevating the debate or not adding to education of America in some small way. But his show along with 99% of the shows out there are exactly just that, not helpful. All we would be left with would be a very boring one hour show on a sunday morning and then we would turn off our TV's for the rest of the week.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
In fairness to Cramer..
March 15, 2009 - 15:10 ET by timothe...he doesn't own any stocks. He has a charitable portfolio only and he informs his moves in his charitable trust before he makes them to those who subscribe to his Action Alerts Plus newsletter.
Contempt prior to investigation is ignorance.
Charitable Trust Aspect
March 15, 2009 - 16:00 ET by Kingfish17Knowing a good amount about Trusts, but not being an expert, I've always wondered this:
Cramer doesn't own any stocks outright and always says all his equity is in his charitable trust. But if stocks he touts are in his trust and they subsequently rise, isn't he able to give more to charity, and thus shelter more income? Just wondering.
"When will Barack Obama apologize to the American people for destroying their once great nation?" - MSM 2012
Jon Stewart is an idiot, but also a hypocrite
March 15, 2009 - 11:01 ET by jondelwicheI very much agree with Noel's thoughts, but it isnt that the right
is necessarily in Cramer's corner rather than the outrageous hypocrisy at play here. I have been a longterm fan of MadMoney and clearly:
1. Cramer was pounding on W/Paulsen in November and praising Obama. Where was Stewart's criticism then?
A: Stewart only went after Cramer when the Dem Cramer dared to criticize Stewart's Messiah. = HYPOCRITE.
2. CNBC got burned in 2001 with the Enrons and WCOMs accting scandals. They HAVE been much more wary in making their predictions in recent years. Cramer has urged caution all thru 2008, but he makes 20-30 stock calls per day, how is it "journalism" to cherry pick a few video snippets and taunt him?
3. Lastly, and most importantly, Fannie Mae had a huge red flag in 2004. The media WAS all over this, and the accounting costs to review Fannie's books alone was 800 million! in 2004-5. Am I wrong on this? Please correct me if I am.
It was the POLITICIANS we all know well who were chirping to the media in 2006 and 2007 that the Fannies/Freddies were "fine" and "solvent." Video clips of this are common, so at the end of the day, how is Cramer to blame and these worthless politcos NOT to blame? That is my problems with the Stew-tards of the world.
Sadly, we get the government we deserve: and how is it working out for everybody? Conversly, I can simply choose not to watch idiots like Stewart
Cramer supported Obama
March 15, 2009 - 11:07 ET by SATerpdid he not?
He's getting what he deserves.
A liberal who's been mugged- and sorry for it.
March 15, 2009 - 11:54 ET by tomchrisI agree. If this was Larry Kudlow vs Stewart we'd be truely witnessing a bloody bout with Stewart a sure loser. Cramer's an oxymoron- a free market liberal. That, in itself, is a surefire way to self destruct in any debate. That, and taking your fashion cues from Larry King.
"No, this is about
March 15, 2009 - 11:26 ET by d1carter"No, this is about personalities Rick Santelli and Jim Cramer making
negative comments about Obama's economic policies, and the left can't
have that."
This is the first step in limiting our freedom of speech rights. If you criticize the POTUS that they support, then you will be destroyed on their network...even if they have to use a comedy show to do it. Shameful...
The larger lesson from this
March 15, 2009 - 11:43 ET by Smoking HotYou ask:
Yes, yes, a thousand times, yes. Real journalism is not stenography. Real journalism is not a talk show. Real journalism is investigative where facts are discerned by talking to more than one source. Real journalism is terribly rare these days.
That said, I am sure I don't know anyone who can claim to have made or lost money because of what Jim Cramer, or Jon Stewart for that matter, told them.
2 comments
March 15, 2009 - 11:44 ET by pbthinkerFirst, I think it's a valid point of whether Stewart would have gone after Cramer if he'd been praising Obama's policies. It seems the only way Santelli and Cramer get a fair interview is on Fox.
Secondly, the MSM is still not telling the public the truth about this mess. Watching Stephie on This Week, he seemed to try really hard to get out Rahm's talking points this morning. I also noticed, during his interview with Summers this morning, when George asked on question about responsibility that Summers got a little smirk on his face like this interview was planned and he was going to have the opportunity to put out the talking points but he wasn't sure how Stephie was going to work it in. It just seemed like he was impressed with how it was done.
I just can't help but think, with all the ex-Clinton people around, these are the same people that knew Clinton was lying and, even when the truth came out, they were still sticking up for Clinton and trashing the prosecutors. They are not honest people.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Just another diversion
March 15, 2009 - 11:57 ET by slickwillie2001This should not be about Cramer and Santelli etc. This is a very successful diversion by the far left in the administration to deflect criticism from Congress and regulators that failed us, just as Rush was. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and Greenspan and Cuomo and Raines and Gorelick should be in the docket, not TV pundits.
BTW, here is another effective takedown of the blowhard Stewart: I Always See the Clown Nose on John Stewart: http://patterico.com/
Can someone point me to the
March 15, 2009 - 16:12 ET by nicksmith112Can someone point me to the video of Jon Stewart's undressing the crooks and criminals in government involved in the Fannie and Freddie debacle.
I'm sure the man of the people..Jon Stewart went after those corrupt scoundrels!
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
The clips from the
March 16, 2009 - 01:29 ET by maggieqpublicThe clips from the Cramer/Stewart showdown were stunning.
Cramer bounced out on the stage looking like he was prepared for some good-natured criticism, a few zingers, much humor.
Instead, Stewart pulled out his note cards, and he delivered what looked liked a prosecutor’s well-rehearsed closing statement (intermixed with damning video clips of every miscue from Cramer’s life). Cramer was frozen and clearly humiliated.
Stewart’s 60 Minutes-style grilling had the studio audience so worked up, I’m surprised they didn’t rush the stage. Cramer was set up and scapegoated. He didn’t prepare an adequate defense because he didn’t think he’d need one on a comedy show. His mistake.
And any of you other well-known liberals who were thinking about speaking out against Obama policies… better think again.
Description of The Daily
March 16, 2009 - 01:52 ET by motherbeltDescription of The Daily Show...from Stewart's own mouth:
It's a Fake News Show!!
But that's just his excuse for when he gets caught out of bounds. He wants the best of both worlds: to play at being a serious pundit, and to claim the excuse of comedy when he wants to be outrageous and offensive.
Fake News Show. And Stewart's schtik is well known. Anyone who goes on there should know what to expect.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Hi Motherbelt, I’ve seen
March 16, 2009 - 18:38 ET by maggieqpublicHi Motherbelt, I’ve seen a few clips from Stewart’s show on this site and others, but this was the first time I sat down and looked at a full-length interview. Revelation for me… Stewart has a vindictive streak, and I can only assume that Jim Cramer prepared for an easygoing interview because he thought it would be liberal-on-liberal softballs. But, instead, funny Jon decided that Cramer needed to be punished for his transgression.
You’re right, it is a fake news show (and a fake comedy show). I’ve noticed the same nasty disposition coming from David Letterman (though I've only seen the occasional clip from his show lately).