"The View's" Joy Behar subbed for Larry King on CNN Thursday evening, and her first guest was -- wait for it!!! -- conservative author Ann Coulter.
Oh Joy!!!
The bullets were flying early:
ANN COULTER: In fact, [Barack Obama's] increasing the war in Iraq. He's continuing the rendition. I think either he knew this all along or he got in, got the national security briefings and said I can't let "The New York Times" run national security. That's too dangerous. So I had high hopes for him the first few weeks, though the stimulus bill sort of dashed those.
JOY BEHAR: So you would like him to continue torturing people, is that what you're telling me?
Yeah, baby!!! Part one is embedded right. Parts two and three along with a full transcript are below the fold (courtesy our dear friend Ms Underestimated):
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST "THE VIEW," SUBBING FOR CNN's LARRY KING: I'm Joy Behar sitting in for Larry tonight.
And what a great night to fill in because joining me in New York is Ann Coulter.
You could say she's a little controversial, she's a little country, she's a little rock and roll. And she's got a new best-seller out, "Guilty Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America."
We'll get into that and a lot more.
But first, let's talk about our new president.
Welcome to the show, Ann.
ANN COULTER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Thank you.
Good to be here.
BEHAR: Is there anything you like about Obama?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: Oh, wow!
Like what?
COULTER: He -- he was totally playing the "Daily Kos" kids for fools on national security. He's basically continued Bush's terrorism policies. Guantanamo is not getting shut down. We're not pulling out of Iraq...
BEHAR: Not yet.
COULTER: In fact, he's increasing the war in Iraq. He's continuing the rendition. I think either he knew this all along or he got in, got the national security briefings and said I can't let "The New York Times" run national security. That's too dangerous.
So I had high hopes for him the first few weeks, though the stimulus bill sort of dashed those.
BEHAR: So you would like him to continue torturing people, is that what you're telling me?
COULTER: We don't torture people, Joy.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: We don't?
That's not what I heard.
COULTER: No. Though, if they're really bad -- no.
BEHAR: If they're really bad, we torture them.
COULTER: I was going to say, they start showing them old issues -- old "Views."
BEHAR: "The View." Oh, yes, you've on the show.
That -- did you feel we ganged up on you last time?
COULTER: No...
BEHAR: Or somewhat?
COULTER: It was a lot of fun. It was like the sisterhood of the traveling pants.
BEHAR: Yes.
COULTER: I'm expecting cards and letters from all of you.
BEHAR: Listen, you sold a lot of books that day. "The View" sells a lot books.
So what do you care if we ganged up on you?
COULTER: I didn't say you ganged up on me. You did.
BEHAR: Well, you sort of acted like we did.
COULTER: No, I said it was a Joyful occasion.
BEHAR: People felt that you were pissed when you left. I'm just saying -- OK. So what do you think about this stimulus bill?
Do you think that...
COULTER: I think it's a disaster.
BEHAR: You think it's a disaster.
COULTER: It's the Reward Failure Act of 2009. I mean it's not -- I like the title and so did most Americans. Support for it went from about 80 percent when people only knew the title to about 37 percent as people would find out more and more about it -- stimulative of big huge government programs. It rewards failure.
And who's going to be left holding the bag?
The middle class of America.
BEHAR: Yes, but, you know, your party has done nothing in the past eight years to fix any of this. They ran up the deficit.
COULTER: Well, it only started last fall.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I don't know what you're talking about.
COULTER: I mean the whole economic crisis started last fall. I promise you, McCain wouldn't have been our nominee. Nobody was talking about this until the fall of last year.
BEHAR: Well, nobody...
COULTER: The economy was fine until then.
BEHAR: Nobody seemed to have any foresight at all.
COULTER: No, everybody knew. It was exactly like the dot-com boom.
BEHAR: Well, then why didn't the Republicans do something?
COULTER: Because they were making money.
BEHAR: They were in pain.
COULTER: Well, everybody -- why wasn't everyone doing something?
People knew it was coming the same way people knew that, you know, Pets.com 10 years earlier wasn't worth more than G.M. and G.E. and IBM combined. People knew that these Internet stocks weren't worth as much as people were paying for them. People knew that these subprime mortgages we're not -- that the housing couldn't keep going up forever.
BEHAR: But what... COULTER: But as long as you're making money, it continues. It happens with all sorts of things.
BEHAR: But the Republican Party has now basically turned its back on this, except for three people -- Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins and Arlen Specter, right. So those are the only three Republicans who say, OK, we're going to...
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: ...we're going to try and do something.
What have Republicans come up with?
COULTER: No, that...
BEHAR: They have no plan.
COULTER: OK, first of all, there is no clear evidence that those three -- Collins, Snowe and Specter -- are Republicans or I would demand that Michael Steele cut them out.
BEHAR: You're just saying that because they don't agree with you.
COULTER: No, no, no. Look, I mean, when you get every Republican in the House plus 14 and then nine Democrats voting against this bill, that's where the bipartisanship is -- against the creeping -- it's not creeping socialism, it's galloping socialism and it's -- it's theft. It's immoral.
This -- it's shocking, the stimulus bill...
BEHAR: You exaggerate.
COULTER: I'm not exaggerating.
BEHAR: You exaggerate.
COULTER: And the only hope is that Republicans will come zooming back in two years and it won't go into effect because...
BEHAR: Do you...
COULTER: ...because this is a disaster. And, by the way, people -- people who think that just because their taxes aren't going up right now -- OK, you know, maybe I won't benefit from the stimulus bill, but I won't be hurt -- you will be hurt.
BEHAR: Would you...
COULTER: You will be hurt.
BEHAR: Would you -- let me ask you...
COULTER: Everything you've made until now will be worth half as much. BEHAR: All right.
Would you rather that it fail so that the Republicans can be back in power in 2010...
COULTER: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
BEHAR: ...rather than try to do something for the American people?
COULTER: No. It has nothing to do with being back in power...
BEHAR: But last -- answer the question.
COULTER: No. I've answered.
BEHAR: Would you -- would you -- well, let's say it passed...
COULTER: It has nothing to do with Republicans being in power.
BEHAR: Let's say it does really work.
COULTER: It can't.
BEHAR: What if it does really great?
How do you know?
You don't know that.
COULTER: Because massive socialism has never worked. I mean, Argentina tried it. Japan tried it. They have higher I.Q.s than we do. You can't borrow a trillion dollars. We don't have a trillion dollars. You know what that means, Joy?
That means you either are here in hock to China.
BEHAR: Who...
COULTER: And there is definitely massive inflation, because you start printing money. That means any dollar you have today will be worth 50 cents in a few years.
BEHAR: But who are we indebted to for the Iraq War, for example, where we spent a trillion dollars also?
COULTER: OK, but the -- look, each...
BEHAR: And Bush and his people brought the deficit up incredibly.
So who are we in debt to for that?
COULTER: Yes. And the deficit's very bad. And Republicans have been the ones talking about it for years.
BEHAR: I never heard... COULTER: I think it was Bob Dole who said...
BEHAR: Oh, Bob.
COULTER: Let them -- let them run on the deficit. We've been running on it for 30 years. Americans don't care. Each president, because of spending of the government, each president has a bigger deficit than the last one. You know what the entire deficit...
BEHAR: Wait a minute. Wait, but take a break.
COULTER: The entire deficit under George Bush that you're so worried about is $400 billion. This stimulus bill was nearly a trillion.
BEHAR: Well, that's not true. First of all, everybody knows -- and we're -- I'm not a political person exactly. But everybody knows at this point that George Bush got a great surplus when he came into office and he squandered it. Everyone knows that.
COULTER: It's -- it was a surplus on paper.
BEHAR: Oh, I see. OK.
Now, are you frightened or gleeful that Rush Limbaugh seems to be the head of your party these days?
COULTER: Oh, I think it's fantastic.
BEHAR: Really?
COULTER: Yes. I'd rather have somebody -- I mean I hope -- actually, we do have one -- not that I'd rather have some, but I would like more Republicans running for office who can talk like Rush Limbaugh can.
BEHAR: Do you consider Rush Limbaugh a Republican?
I consider him extreme right-winger. I don't consider him a Republican.
COULTER: An extreme right-winger...
BEHAR: Don't you think?
COULTER: ...with 20 million listeners.
BEHAR: Well, you know, that doesn't mean anything to me.
COULTER: Well...
BEHAR: That he has 20 million listeners?
COULTER: It does when you have...
BEHAR: That doesn't mean that 20 million people are agreeing with him, you know.
COULTER: I...
BEHAR: It means that they're listening.
COULTER: I think it means something...
BEHAR: A lot of people are very masochistic and they'll listen to Rush Limbaugh.
COULTER: You're saying that his 20 million listeners hate him and disagree with him?
BEHAR: No, not all. But not everybody agrees with him.
COULTER: If you're describing someone as extreme, I think it can't be someone who is massively popular with -- with the American people. I mean that's -- that's dead down the center.
BEHAR: OK.
All right, let me ask you something else. Now you -- now, one of the...
COULTER: Do you listen to Rush, by the way?
BEHAR: I used to work with him. I was on the same station.
COULTER: But you don't listen to him?
BEHAR: No.
COULTER: Well, OK.
Then how can you even describe him as extreme?
We could interview one of the 20 million people who listen to him everyday.
BEHAR: But I'm not that into somebody who filibusters like that. I like a conversation.
COULTER: You don't listen to him.
How do you know he filibusters?
BEHAR: Because I worked with him for three years and I know what he does.
COULTER: (INAUDIBLE).
BEHAR: I used to work with him in the early '90s. I had a radio show on WABC Radio.
COULTER: OK. So from 20 years ago, you have decided you know that he is an extremist? BEHAR: I see him all the time. I know...
COULTER: When he has 20 million listeners.
BEHAR: I know his routine. I know his rap.
COULTER: More than anyone on TV. More than Oprah.
Do you think everybody watching Oprah hates her?
BEHAR: I don't know.
COULTER: They're just watching it out of schadenfreude.
BEHAR: Out of schaden...
COULTER: Would you ask Oprah...
BEHAR: OK. You know, we've got...
COULTER: Do people hate you?
BEHAR: Do people hate you?
I'd like to ask you that?
COULTER: No.
BEHAR: Do you think that people hate you?
COULTER: No. Not when I have seven "New York Times" best-sellers. No, I'm -- I'm very popular.
BEHAR: But you -- no, you can't have everybody love you. Not everybody loves you, Ann. People think that...
COULTER: You asked me if people hated me.
BEHAR: I know. But you say...
COULTER: And suddenly...
BEHAR: You're saying...
COULTER: ...(INAUDIBLE) saying no they don't hate me...
BEHAR: You're saying, though...
COULTER: (INAUDIBLE) everybody loves me.
BEHAR: But you said because you sell books that makes you people -- that makes you think that people love you.
COULTER: No.
BEHAR: Just because... COULTER: I said that indicates to me that they do not hate me, which was the question, Joy.
BEHAR: OK.
Has Ann ever dated a liberal?
You'll find out if you stay with us.
Have you?
We'll find out later.
Don't tell me now.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BEHAR: OK. We're back with Ann Coulter.
You know, I actually read your book, Ann. I'll plug it for you.
COULTER: Isn't it fabulous?
BEHAR: Yes. You've said -- this is a quote: "The media really wanted to screw Obama, but only in the sense that they wanted to have sex with him."
COULTER: Right.
BEHAR: Now, what does that mean?
Did you want to have sex with George Bush?
What are you talking about?
They wanted to have sex with him?
Does Morley Safer want to have sex with Obama?
COULTER: Probably.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I mean come on.
COULTER: Probably. And I know Chris Matthews does.
What it means is I was talking about how -- how the media was treating -- I believe that's the part where I was talking about how the media switched from the Clintons, who used to be the golden boys -- or couple. She used to be so smart and he was so sexy. Well, all of that ended.
BEHAR: The media...
COULTER: The new golden boy came along. BEHAR: The media was on his case with the Monica Lewinsky thing, I included. So don't say that they loved the Clintons.
COULTER: OK. That came...
BEHAR: They were on them constantly.
COULTER: That came in the end of his administration.
BEHAR: Well, whenever, it was.
COULTER: And they still kept talking about how wildly popular he was. But he couldn't get 50 percent of the country to vote for him and I keep hearing about all the personal magnetism when he walked into the room. OK (INAUDIBLE)...
BEHAR: Well, Obama is very, very charismatic and he's very popular. He's popular in the world. They love him every place. George Bush never got that type of reception and you know it.
COULTER: You're basing that on what?
I think I can call him an extremist if you're going to call Rush Limbaugh an extremist.
BEHAR: Well, I called Rush a terrorist sometimes, too.
But you know what, someone from the right-wing media -- "National Review" editor Rick -- Rich Lowry -- do you know him?
Is he a pal?
Have you dated him?
COULTER: No.
BEHAR: OK. Well, when Sarah Palin was doing the convention, he said -- he wrote -- I just love this: "When Palin dropped her first wink, I sat up a little straighter on the couch and said hey, she's winking at me."
Do you think he wanted to screw Sarah Palin?
COULTER: No. I also don't think he's a very good writer, so quote somebody else. Ooh, like me. There's my book.
BEHAR: Oh, so you -- so, but I'm showing you that they were in love with Sarah Palin on the right the way you say that the left and the liberal media is in love with...
COULTER: Well, I love Sarah -- no, no, no, no...
BEHAR: ...with Obama.
COULTER: I love Sarah Palin. It's just not the hormonal way they do in the press. BEHAR: That's so ridiculous.
You're saying that they actually literally wanted to have sex with him?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: OK. Ann.
Have you ever dated a liberal?
COULTER: I tried, but I couldn't take the dinky little electric car.
BEHAR: The dinky little electric car?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: Why?
Is that what liberals are driving these days?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: Really?
I haven't seen any in New York City.
And it's loaded with liberals.
COULTER: Did you ask if it was in New York City?
BEHAR: Well, I mean I haven't -- this is the hotbed of liberalism, New York City. I haven't seen one electric car.
Have you?
COULTER: I don't -- I don't live here.
BEHAR: But you stop here.
COULTER: I do. I'm right here.
BEHAR: You go to the theater.
COULTER: I do not see a single car in this studio right now.
BEHAR: So are you saying that if -- that if George Clooney asked you out on a date, you'd say no, because he's a big liberal?
COULTER: Correct.
BEHAR: Really?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: Well, what kind of men do you like?
COULTER: I like men, i.e. conservatives. I don't want them checking with the U.N. to get, you know, a resolution before making a move.
BEHAR: You know, it's funny that you say that, because I read this study one time. Don't ask me where, because I don't remember where I read it. But they said that conservative women have more orgasms than liberal women. Right...
COULTER: Oh, yes. That was in "Godless."
BEHAR: Why do you think that's true?
COULTER: It's heavily through the bible belt.
BEHAR: Really?
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: A lot of sex in the bible.
But I mean what's the reason, do you think?
I mean and do you think it's true?
COULTER: Yes. It's definitely true.
BEHAR: But why?
Based on what?
Is it because Republican women have more money and so they're more relaxed, is that what it is?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Or they can afford better vibrators?
What?
COULTER: It's because they take it more seriously.
BEHAR: Oh, they take it more seriously. I thought you were supposed to have more fun in bed?
COULTER: Yes. But you're not supposed to be in bed constantly and with every Tom, Dick and Harry, including the guys with the electric cars.
BEHAR: Oh, you mean those -- those whoring Democratic women who are constantly in bed with every guy?
COULTER: Basically, yes.
BEHAR: Oh, I see. OK. All right.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Ann was on "The View" recently and boy, was that fun.
Find out why in 60 seconds.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BEHAR: Ann was on "The View" recently. We had a good time.
Take a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "THE VIEW," COURTESY ABC)
WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST: We are not attacking you.
COULTER: I have never heard...
GOLDBERG: You wrote something provocative.
COULTER: ...my book read aloud like you're reading "Mein Kampf"...
(CROSSTALK)
COULTER: ...and I just did.
BARBARA WALTERS, CO-HOST: Can I just read a section aloud?
COULTER: Yes.
WALTERS: OK?
COULTER: And read it like you're reading "Mein Kampf" again.
WALTERS: OK.
(LAUGHTER)
WALTERS: I don't think I did that, you know?
COULTER: I think you did.
(CROSSTALK)
COULTER: ...out the words when I wasn't sitting here.
WALTERS: Then let me do this. Throughout John -- in this case, I'd like to discuss something current.
(CROSSTALK)
COULTER: Yes, that was lovely. You can do the -- the audio book. Well, we don't know that much about her. I mean... (CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not attacking you. I just don't appreciate the way you're talking to her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean nobody is attacking you. You didn't have to talk to her like...
(CROSSTALK)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COULTER: You're not that popular on the show, I don't think.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I mean Sherri had to defend Barbara against you. She felt the need...
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: ...because you said that Barbara looked like she was reading "Mein Kampf".
COULTER: Sounded like.
BEHAR: Sounded like she was reading "Mein Kampf"...
COULTER: Right.
BEHAR: ...when she was reading your book.
COULTER: Yes. What a brutal attack.
BEHAR: But do you -- do you know, Barbara happens to be Jewish.
Does that a little...
COULTER: What does that have to do with it?
BEHAR: I don't know.
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: You know, why did you pick "Mein Kampf?"
COULTER: OK, if you can't mention Hitler and "Mein Kampf" when anyone Jewish is interviewing you, then how about not having Jewish people interview?
BEHAR: I'm just...
COULTER: What, do we have a list of what can be mentioned?
BEHAR: Just asking, that's all. I mean, you know what we can talk about...
COULTER: I think we need a NASDAQ ticker for which words can be used at which times by which people when talking to whom. And it would be constantly changing and updated all the time.
How about we just talk?
BEHAR: Don't you think there's room for...
(CROSSTALK)
COULTER: ...a good point and you're saying ooh, that was mean.
BEHAR: Don't you think there's room for sensitivity?
You know, like that cartoon that was in "The Post?"
COULTER: No. I think that is a perfect example of what I say in my book -- people playing the victim.
BEHAR: People look too politically correct.
COULTER: No, no, no, no. People playing the victim when they're the victimizers. You didn't play the way Barbara Walters read my book the first time. And she was spitting out the words like she was reading from "Mein Kampf".
BEHAR: You don't think you're a little paranoid here?
I mean she was just reading it.
COULTER: Well, I mean play it. Play it for our viewers. Let them decide.
BEHAR: Well, they saw it already. (INAUDIBLE).
COULTER: Oh, no, I don't think so.
BEHAR: OK.
COULTER: I liked that part.
BEHAR: All right. We've got to take another break.
What's the biggest trouble Ann has gotten herself into?
We'll ask her when we come back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BEHAR: OK. Let's take a call from Columbus, Ohio.
Columbus, you're on the line.
Hello.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Joy.
BEHAR: Hi.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. I just wanted to ask Ann, it seems like her whole focus is on what, you know, is wrong with President Obama's approach to finding solutions for our current situation. And I was wondering what -- if she's truly honest with herself, what responsibility she feels like, you know, Republicans and the conservatives have in this whole mess that we're in?
COULTER: Right. They have a responsibility to the Constitution and the country, which they are fulfilling magnificently, I might add. Are -- and what we have now, as I said, is this massive socialist bill that will transfer money not to individuals, not to create jobs -- to state, local and the federal governments; that will, by the way, repeal the welfare reform provisions from the 1996 welfare reform bill that was successful Bill Clinton ended up claiming credit for it. It has provisions to, oh, redo -- at the cost of billions of dollars -- these docks that are near Nancy Pelosi's husband's rental properties.
Chuck Schumer...
BEHAR: All right.
COULTER: Senator Chuck Schumer...
BEHAR: Ann, it's only an hour show.
COULTER: ...just said...
BEHAR: Come on.
COULTER: Well, OK. She wants to know.
BEHAR: It's too long.
COULTER: If you want to defend freedom, you've got to vote against this bill.
BEHAR: But it's too long an answer. We have only a little bit of time left and I have more things to ask you.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Like have you ever gotten into real trouble?
For instance, it's interesting that you called Scott McClellan retarded in your book.
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: You said that the 9/11 widows were enjoying their husbands' deaths.
Now those are two outrageous statements.
First of all, retarded people could get offended by that.
COULTER: That is true.
BEHAR: Comparing them to Scott McClellan.
COULTER: That is true.
(LAUGHTER)
COULTER: And I apologize.
BEHAR: I knew you were going there.
COULTER: Yes.
BEHAR: No, seriously, people do not like that, when you use the word retarded in that flip manner.
And that the 9/11 widows...
COULTER: No, but I think he actually is.
BEHAR: ...were enjoying their husbands' deaths.
Where did you come up with that?
COULTER: I think it is outrageous for the media to pick on the retarded press secretary and treat him like he's suddenly Zarathustra.
BEHAR: But if he was retarded, why did...
COULTER: I mean all along...
BEHAR: ...Bush hire him?
(CROSSTALK)
COULTER: ...that even when he was working for Bush. Because luckily for me, I don't have a job. And I can stay home and watch press conferences. You'd only see David Gregory getting into it with Scott McClellan. And I saw the whole press conference.
McClellan could turn, you know, the fact that Bush had eggs for breakfast into an Ehrlichman-Haldeman conspiracy. So he was...
BEHAR: That's pretty clever.
COULTER: ...terrible for the job.
BEHAR: That doesn't sound retarded to me.
COULTER: No. He was terrible for the job. He was not a Bush loyalist. It was one of Bush's -- it's his Achilles' heel that he kept going to Bush loyalists, people he knew. They weren't very loyal to him, in the case of Scott McClellan. And, oh, man, we've been through the Jersey girls a million times. BEHAR: What's the problem...
COULTER: I was talking...
BEHAR: What's your problem with them?
I don't really -- I never heard this before.
COULTER: Well, they're gone now, thanks to that book. So we can move on.
BEHAR: But why do you say that people who lost their husbands in a horrible, horrible fire -- in a terrible tragedy like that...
COULTER: I didn't say they were enjoying the deaths. I said when they were going around cutting anti-war commercials, cutting commercials for Kerry, using their victim hood to prevent anyone to responding to them, they were loving that -- being photographed for "Vanity Fair." I said it. We had an argument about it. I won it. They're gone. So we can move on to three books later now.
BEHAR: So. OK, let's...
COULTER: Come on.
Didn't I insult anybody in this book?
I think there are many.
BEHAR: Well, you insult single mothers quite a bit, I think.
COULTER: Excellent. I wanted to get to that topic.
BEHAR: Yes. You do insult single mothers.
COULTER: I don't think I do.
BEHAR: Now our -- you say practically that single mothers were responsible for everything wrong in the world.
Now, I was single mother.
Am I responsible for the financial turndown?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Am I responsible for the housing market crash?
COULTER: No, I think I make it very clear in that chapter.
BEHAR: Was -- is Bernie Madoff is a single mother?
COULTER: Moreover, you weren't an unwed mother, were you?
BEHAR: No, I was married woman, but I was divorced and then I was a single mother. COULTER: Well, OK. In that chapter, I specifically distinguish widows and divorced mothers from single mothers. We already have words for widows and divorced mothers. They're called widows and divorced mothers.
BEHAR: Why do you...
COULTER: Liberals try to include that in the category of single mothers in order to class up the category, like referring to the G.I. Bill as a form of welfare. And the statistics, by now, I mean we have 30 years of statistics. The evidence is in. When 80 percent of the inmates in our insti -- our prisons were raised by single mothers -- mostly unwed mothers. The children of widows don't turn out particularly badly.
BEHAR: But there are tons of people out there who were raised by single mothers who are doing quite well.
COULTER: Sure. This is looking at it from the other end. And when you have...
BEHAR: Well, why not look at it from that end?
COULTER: Well, because that's 80 percent of the prison population.
How about 80 percent fewer crimes?
How about the fact that, according to a liberal policy institute, if you remove the factor of single motherhood -- keep everything else the same -- residence, socio-economic status, income -- the difference in black and white crimes disappears?
BEHAR: Why (INAUDIBLE)...
COULTER: That is destroying the black community.
BEHAR: Why don't you blame the men who knocked these women up?
COULTER: Because they're not celebrated.
BEHAR: And, also, what do you think about Bristol Palin?
She's a single mother.
COULTER: I think she should give the child up for adoption or marry the father. I mean I say in that -- I sell -- I think the people who should be revered aren't the baby mommas, they are the people who have shotgun marriages. Apparently a lot of those shotgun marriages worked out because they used to have them a lot and the divorce rate was lower.
BEHAR: So you would rather that Bristol -- Bristol Meyers, I was going to say.
(LAUGHTER) BEHAR: What's her name?
Bristol Palin marry the guy, even though maybe...
COULTER: Or give the child up for adoption.
BEHAR: And then...
COULTER: I think I'm very clear about that.
BEHAR: ...give the child up for adoption.
Do you know what the ramifications of giving a child up for adoption...
COULTER: Yes, I do. I write about it in the book.
BEHAR: It's not that easy a thing, Ann.
COULTER: Well, for the child, it's a lot better. And that's what I'm talking about. The real victims here are the children who are being bought. The worst lottery ticket you could buy your child, being raised by a single mother. The best lottery ticket you can buy your child is to give the child up for adoption.
BEHAR: It's too simple...
COULTER: Just don't venerate these women...
BEHAR: We're not venerating anybody.
COULTER: ...and hold them up as -- yes, they are.
BEHAR: Agree or disagree...
COULTER: Then you haven't watched anything out of Hollywood.
BEHAR: ...with Ann, a lot of you are talking about her on Larry's blog.
And here's David Theall to tell us about it -- David.
DAVID THEALL, LARRY KING LIVE PRODUCER: Hey, listen, Joy, we certainly have been talking about Ann's appearance throughout the day. We've been monitoring the comments during your conversation with her. Some of the things we're hearing: "bomb thrower," "very disappointed," "venomous." And this: "I like Ann Coulter."
While you go to the blog, CNN.com/larryking, check out the exclusive extra that we have on the blog from an upcoming guest -- somebody you're going to be talking to here very shortly.
That's Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. They have 18 kids -- 18 -- 18 children. You're going to be talking about the octo mom here very shortly. And they have given us a blog extra about how to save money when you are raising kids these days. Again, that is at CNN.com/larryking. Look for that blog link. Jump into the conversation. We look forward for -- to hearing from you -- Joy.
BEHAR: Thanks, David.
They have a lot of tips, the Duggars.
Thank you, Ann, for coming on.
We do...
COULTER: Thank you.
BEHAR: You were fine. You were great. I loved -- I loved talking to you. Really.
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Ann was magnificent,
February 20, 2009 - 10:35 ET by InfidelphiaAnn was magnificent, thrusting then twisting the knife of a superior intellect deeper and deeper with a smile on her face... Behart, clearly outmatched, was way out of her depth.
Joy's Misunderstandings
February 20, 2009 - 10:54 ET by allanfLiberals don't understand that reveling in wonders of abortion qualifies you pro-abortion not "pro-choice". Liberals don't understand that reveling in single motherhood leads to single motherhood.
Once again Joy Behar
February 20, 2009 - 11:11 ET by motherbeltOnce again Joy Behar speaks, and removes all doubt.
And true to form, the first argument out of her mouth was basically Your party didn't even try. The old liberal guage of success...at least we TRIED!!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
No Win Situation
February 20, 2009 - 11:29 ET by dboYour party didn't even try
...and when they do try, Joy refers to them as "extreme right-wingers" like Rush.
Yes.
February 20, 2009 - 11:31 ET by 5kidsnadogLiberals give shiny medals for effort - if you stuck around and kept breathing, there must be a reward at the end of it -- a certificate for a free pizza, or at least a gold painted plastic statue mounted on a piece of laminated wood?
GREAT CLIP !
February 20, 2009 - 13:11 ET by MaximusBraveheartOhh that was great! Something a little up lifting! Conservatives need to keep the heat up and NOT shut up like Obamination would like!
M-B
Unarmed bimbo
February 20, 2009 - 17:01 ET by bknownstNasty Bahar showed up for a battle of wits without any. How can people watch this idiot on the pu day after day? She was a great fill in for Larry the loser. Gotta love those folks at the Comunist News Network.
Amateur Windbag
February 20, 2009 - 10:50 ET by dboAnn Coulter debating Joy Behar is like shooting fish in a barrel. Notice when Ann starts listing all the things wrong with the stimulus bill Joy cuts her off with "it's only an hour long show" and "it's too long an answer".
dbo
February 20, 2009 - 11:13 ET by sherylsimsYeah, and then after cutting her off went to the much more important topic of "What kind of trouble has Ann been in?" and wanted to rehash stuff I heard about years ago. Cutting edge I tell ya.
the Maggie equivalent
February 20, 2009 - 11:50 ET by mom_roxThe "it's only an hour long show" is the equivalent to the frequent Maggie Rodriguez saying of "We'll have to leave it there".
Thanks for posting this exchange -fun reading.
Like most on the left, Joy
February 20, 2009 - 10:56 ET by winston smithLike most on the left, Joy is an expert at throwing out the quick cheap shot on the View when there's essentially no one around to respond. But here Ann had a romp bi**h- slapping Joyless silly on a one-on-one. Here we were treated to a rare example of why liberals continually prohibit conservative rebuttals in the msm.
To Joy Behar's credit...
February 20, 2009 - 10:57 ET by nolotrippenTo Joy Behar's credit, I think she was actually warming to Coulter toward the end. Coulter stuck to her guns, stuck to the facts, deftly danced around Behar's gotchas (that was so three books ago), that Behar could have just started screaming or started admiring her opponent. Maybe it's the Friday morning coffee, but I think it was, just a bit, the latter.
Noel, I thought you said this was a debate....
February 20, 2009 - 11:01 ET by JTPIt appears to be a thrashing to me.
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
~I would've asked the old bat
February 20, 2009 - 11:03 ET by choselife3x"Why ask questions if you don't have time to listen to the answers?"
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Too funny! Ann struggled throughout the interview...
February 20, 2009 - 11:03 ET by ThalpyToo funny! Ann struggled throughout the interview to dumb her responses down enough so Joy might understand. There are light-years of distance between these two women.
Conservatives probably DO have better sex lives.
February 20, 2009 - 11:17 ET by SpikerWhen I was young and liberal, dating idiot liberals, no sexual satisfaction. Now that I am in my thirties, conservative and involved with a REAL man (ie conservative).......WOW
I am going to concur with that statement. Also, I don't go for the dinky little electric cars either.
Ann did raise valid
February 20, 2009 - 11:19 ET by NCguyAnn did raise valid debatable points. Usually she just goes off the deep end saying things like "Jews need to be "perfected" by becoming Christians".
To Joy's credit she did aknowlege that she is not an expert on politics. Her questions were a bit leading...but that's the nature of interviews. These two are on opposite ends of the political spectrum which makes for good tv.
No NCguy
February 20, 2009 - 11:24 ET by sherylsimsAnn usually does not go "off the deep end". She lives in the deep end and is unafraid to say something that is politically incorrect to the fraidey cats over in the shallow end trying to twist what she says and discredit her. She always backs up what she says, and if you actually LISTEN to what she says and not try to twist it, you might realize that the deep end is where the more intellectual people hang out. So inflate your swimmies and give it a try.
She's good at making the
February 21, 2009 - 01:03 ET by ThatDudeShe's good at making the outrageous statements to grab attention, but the rationales are much better thought out, researched, and to the point. Do I agree with her conclusions wholesale? No. But I do admit that she arrives at them logically and puts up strong arguments to some things I would think are almost indefensible.
As well as opposite ends of
February 20, 2009 - 11:25 ET by MightyMouthAs well as opposite ends of the intellectual spectrum.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
→ Whatever you say
February 20, 2009 - 11:25 ET by Cool ArrowStupid versus informed can make for some good TV moments, in sort of a "Joaquin Phoenix meets David Letterman" sort of way.
But I didn't feel sorry for Joy. She volunteered to fill in for Larry Corpse.
~EmbarrassmenttoNCguy
February 20, 2009 - 11:37 ET by choselife3xWe're still waiting to hear about Palin's taxes. Or can't you back that up?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Palin's taxes
February 20, 2009 - 14:40 ET by Pilgrim1949Perhaps you are referring to the inquiry she herself initiated to find out what taxes she might owe on her past per diem....so that she could know how much she needed to pay?
....soooo like the recent Cabinet candidates (and one currently warming his seat in his seat).
~Howdy there, Pilgrim
February 20, 2009 - 14:52 ET by choselife3xGood thing Palin has the deathless loyalty of the MSM. If they were against her they'd have surely dug up and proved all KINDS of things.....
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
1. They were BACK
February 20, 2009 - 15:08 ET by NCguy1. They were BACK taxes. She had not paid her quartly taxes on the per diem. Hence BACK TAXES YET TO BE PAID!
2. As the right began to make a stink about Obama's people's taxes, numerous members of congress and other officals began looking back into thier own tax situation. A Handful came forth and acknowledged they in fact did have back taxes owed (on the left and the right)
A different "stimulus" package...
February 20, 2009 - 16:24 ET by Pilgrim1949As noted:
"...A Handful came forth and acknowledged..."
Slight difference than either ignoring or attempting to blame shift one's way out personal responsibilities. (It was the software/accountant/dog-ate-it/anyone-else-but-me fault. If the far from naive Alpha Dog overseeing the country's taxes can't figure out plain English "this money is to pay for your own share of taxes..." direction, then when it comes to the complexities of the Tax Code, "Houston, we have a problem!")
Ahh, but equivalence is the name of the game after all.
Back taxes -- point accepted and acknowledged. Context of spotlight being shined around -- also acknowledged, and it's a good thing overall. Too bad the application of the 'fessing-up "stimulus" seems to be so few and far between.
Joy isnt an expert on
February 20, 2009 - 11:41 ET by KevroyJoy isnt an expert on anything (except stupidity).
Ann needs her own show. I
February 20, 2009 - 11:27 ET by gopcongressAnn needs her own show. I suggest MSNBC hire her so she can singlehandedly make up for the Olberman/Maddow/Matthews ratings plunges.
Or she can be O'Reilly's permanent sub.
Moderate... Democrat... Liberal... Progressive... Socialist... Communist.
The progression is clear as day.
Good idea...
February 21, 2009 - 02:52 ET by Amanda JusticeI think if they put Ann Coulter on at 8, Beck & Ann would rule FNC. Beck is really making headway, and I think he will eclipse Bill O before too long.
Can you just imagine???
February 24, 2009 - 19:43 ET by Amanda JusticeCan you just imagine her being the "Hannity" to Rachel Maddow's "Colmes" on that show? ROFLMAO... that would be NIGHTLY comedy gold.
Aw, scrap that.. it would give MSNBC good ratings. Drats, gotta think of something else.
OH MAN! You made my day,
February 20, 2009 - 11:35 ET by QueenMumOH MAN! You made my day, Noel.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
COULTER: I think it's a
February 20, 2009 - 11:42 ET by Jack BauerI've noticed this a lot with liberal callers on Levin, Hannity, Limbaugh. For some bizarre reason they always repeat what they are told.
It's like some form of Turret's. They can't comprehend someone is disagreeing with heir weird views.
Listen out for it.
Why?
February 20, 2009 - 12:05 ET by txco"BEHAR: Yes, but, you know, your party has done nothing in the past eight years to fix any of this. They ran up the deficit."
Why do Republicans allow Democrats/Liberals to make this statement? Haven't the Democrats held majorities in both the House and Senate the past two years. What have Democrats done since 2006 to head off this economic crisis?
Head off?
February 20, 2009 - 17:07 ET by bknownstThe dumocrats created this mess intentionally to take the White House!
bi-bipartisanship?
February 20, 2009 - 21:57 ET by mom_roxMost people (conveniently?) forget that President G.W. Bush had to deal with a Democratic majority during HALF of his administration.
Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D) 2001-2002
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D) 2007-2008
Good point
February 21, 2009 - 10:25 ET by txcoThis needs to be pointed out every time the "last 8 years" statement is made. I do believe the democrats wanted this economic down turn to help in the 2008 election. I think they got more than they bargained for...sadly for all Americans.
Talking up the “recession”
February 21, 2009 - 17:42 ET by needleYou got that right! The Democrats' Marketing folks in Alphabet Network-land were talking up the “recession” since the summer of ’07.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Joy Behar's mouth is
February 20, 2009 - 12:09 ET by marvlJoy Behar's mouth is connected to a boiled turnip located between her ears. What a moron.
Did you transcribe that manually?
February 20, 2009 - 12:23 ET by nwahsDid you transcribe that manually or use some voice recognition program? If manually, are you a court reporter? :)
And the general sat and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side.
Man I'm saving this
February 20, 2009 - 12:48 ET by wiwfMan I'm saving this catfight for later!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
bambi-har meets godzilla
February 20, 2009 - 12:57 ET by katainkent*squish*
seriously the best laugh I have had all week!
I cannot believe I caught
February 20, 2009 - 14:16 ET by bigtimerI cannot believe I caught this late last night on a repeat of the show...was I ever lucky!
Coulter was magnificent....at her best...Behar didn't stand a chance...I loved every single minute of it!!
Thank you Ann Coulter...you spoke for millions of us, with clarity.
Behar doesn't know when she was made a fool of...that seems to be an impossibility with the left....they keep opening their mouths and sticking their feet in them.
...did you notice?
February 21, 2009 - 02:49 ET by Amanda Justice... did you notice that every time Ann zinged her, she made some lame half-joke and did a "heh-heh," hoping that her ineptitude didn't show? I did.. and it was about ever 2 minutes. LOL
Amanda... You bet I
February 21, 2009 - 17:49 ET by bigtimerAmanda...
You bet I did...and it was delicious....
..all of it was.
For me what was funny, is Behar knew she was being bested...and couldn't do a danged thing about it, no matter the pathetic attempts she tried.
Truly one of the weirdest nights for me to happen to catch the repeat, I rarely check Larry King, sure glad I caught this one.
I Don't Get It
February 20, 2009 - 14:25 ET by NoJellyPeople Like Behar should be embracing and celebrating those who would fight for her right to go from second-rate receptionist to third-rate talk host...Goes to show-You can take the trash out of the trailer, but...
You gotta hand it to Joy,
February 20, 2009 - 14:33 ET by Clear thinkerYou gotta hand it to Joy, she has learned the liberal debating style of a Marxist nut-case, beautifully! It's almost entertaining to listen to her make things up and act like she actually knows something.
Thank God for Ann Coulter!
The Cold Hard Truth
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Talking Points
February 20, 2009 - 15:20 ET by timrfrench61Joy's points, after a long session like this start to sound so tired and predictable I almost wonder if Ann should tell her "Joy, you can't believe what your saying. I basing this on scientific statistics and your just tossing out tired liberal talking points".
I realized in this that people like Joy just continue to toss out there defensive rebutal points and don't process what is being said in an interview. The difference between being an "Interviewer" and being a "THOUGHTFUL interviewer"?
love to know what Ann thinks
February 20, 2009 - 16:06 ET by TjexciteAnn's next book could all about what is wrong with the Octomom.
Single, broke with a creepy Angelina obsession and 8 new babies. Ann would not be nice.
ask and ye shall
February 20, 2009 - 16:09 ET by katainkentreceive!
Thanks,
February 20, 2009 - 17:13 ET by QueenMumThanks, kata.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Ann is the brave one....
February 20, 2009 - 19:32 ET by kmkirklandI highly recommend "Guilty." It is a great read--entertaining and unabashedly honest. Ann Coulter is the brave one! (see the last chapter in "Guilty")
I don't think I've seen anyone..
February 20, 2009 - 21:37 ET by nwahsI don't know if I've ever seen anyone think as fast on their feet as Coulter. And witty beyond all get out.
And the general sat and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side.
nw... Wow...we finally,
February 20, 2009 - 21:43 ET by bigtimernw...
Wow...we finally, totally, agree on something...you've seen the LIGHT!
Welcome to reality. ;-)
I'm an enormous fan of Coulter
February 20, 2009 - 21:57 ET by nwahsI'm an enormous fan of Coulter. She works without a net and travels behind enemy lines! Dead serious, she is an extremely intelligent and articulate woman.
And the general sat and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side.
Noel, you should post this, too
February 21, 2009 - 02:42 ET by Amanda JusticeJoy Behar, just the very day, only earlier in the afternoon, said on The View that when you step into Larry's shoes, you have to be objective. Even the rest of the hens didn't believe it (watch Whoopi roll her eyes), but Joy insisted she would be objective.
And we all know how THAT turned out, don't we?
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ann Coulter
February 21, 2009 - 08:45 ET by kiwikitis absolutely great and count me among those who love her and buy all her books. . . new! I usually buy all books used but like Ann enough for her to make something for her clear, rational thinking and writing. As for the view, I watched their very first
show until they started demeaning the GOP and conservatives in a most vitriolic irrational way. I shut it off and never turned it on again! I've not, as far as I can tell, missed anything.
the view sucks
February 21, 2009 - 11:44 ET by jessieHJessie R. Hamby I don't watch & never will watch the "view". Why would I want to listen to a bunch of over the hill actors & reporters talking about something they have no clue about? I have read coulter's books. She seems to have some knowledge on the subjects she writes about. ( Those who can, do- those who can't, bitch about it.)
You know your show stinks when..
February 21, 2009 - 11:59 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. you have an airhead like Behar sub for you. I mean, who cares who subs? No one's watching anyway.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
"The View" My Ass.
May 9, 2009 - 01:02 ET by AugustaWhy does Ann's agent force her to have discussions with these idiots? Can we at least see Ann debate someone who is close to being her intellectual equal? Behar is a fourth rate comedienne with Bush derrangement syndrome who toes the loony leftist showbiz line. Ann is a Cornell graduate, Constitutional Attorney, and award winning author and columnist. Liberals' arguments are so childish and uninformed its laughable! At the same time, libs think Behar got it all over on Ann at every turn with her stupid inane comebacks. They rejoice whenever they hear one of their bumper stickers being recited by Behar and high five eachother - when they don't even understand the words coming out of Ann's mouth or even realize they've been burned so bad. The View is so insulting to women, as if they represent us! Can we produce a show where the hostesses are real broads like Annie please!