Roughly five months after Joe Biden informed the nation that paying higher taxes is patriotic, it now appears radically increasing government spending and the federal debt is as well.
At least that's what one gets from a New York Times piece Saturday applauding a Senate compromise on President Barack Obama's stimulus package.
Here are the paragraphs where patriotism was prominently mentioned (emphasis added):
The deal, announced on the Senate floor, was a result of two days of tense negotiations and political theater. Mr. Obama dispatched his chief of staff to Capitol Hill to help conclude the talks and reassure senators in his own party, and he called three key Republicans to applaud them for their patriotism. [...]
Mr. Obama called Ms. Collins and Mr. Specter, as well as Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, another Republican expected to support the deal, to acknowledge they were acting against pressure from their party and, one official said, to thank them for their patriotism in helping advance the bill at a critical time.
Do we know that's what Obama said to Collins, Specter, and Snowe? Isn't that actually what an unnamed official said the President told them?
If the President really did say this, couldn't the Times have gotten anyone to go on the record?
Regardless, if this report is true, and patriotism now includes our leaders spending money we don't have, our Founding Fathers must be rolling over in their graves.
After all, if the current financial crisis was caused by corporations and individuals borrowing money they could never afford to pay back, how can the solution be for our government to do the same thing?
On the other hand, if liberals are right on this issue, then why don't we encourage near-bankrupt corporations and individuals to reciprocate? Let's advise all ailing financial institutions and cash-strapped citizens to borrow MORE money and spend THEIR way out of THEIR fiscal crises.
Wouldn't that also be patriotic?
Despite the obvious contradiction -- obvious only to conservatives apparently! -- another question was ominously answered during these Senate proceedings: would moderate Republicans such as Collins, Snowe, and Specter vote with their Party this Congress, or with Democrats?
Isn't it fitting that we got our answer in their first key vote?
Frankly, if this is the way things are going to go the next two years, Obama has his filibuster-proof majority.
Maybe Collins, Snowe, and Specter should just change Parties now and make it official. It'll be much less painful watching them vote like liberals without the "R" after their names, don't you agree?
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Will anyone hold them accountable?
February 7, 2009 - 12:29 ET by Saint ZeroThink anyone will remember this come next elections?
YES
February 7, 2009 - 14:34 ET by CTYES
If the Pennsylvania state
February 7, 2009 - 21:15 ET by BDIf the Pennsylvania state Republican Party does not have the balls to run someone against Spectre in the next primary - then conservatives in Pennsylvania must vote for the democrat just to free the seat.
They will have to put up with six years of pain to clear the chamber....
Spectre is now officially DONE!!!!!!!!
Sorry, Pat Toomey ran in the primaries......
February 8, 2009 - 03:43 ET by old croback in 2004 (I think). Spectre got endorsements from president Bush and soon to be lost senator Santorum with the understanding he would toe the line, and Toomey lost. This told me that there are not a lot of real conservatives in PA because PA primaries are for party members only. It could have been democrat hijinks because in this state, they sure are capable (cheat wise), but I doubt it. In my opinion, keeping Spectre and losing Santorum was the beginning of today's current woes with the Rupublican party. I guess that whatever agreement was reached, it is now null and void.
PS - Lynn Swann ran against fast eddie for gov and lost big last time, mostly because of Philly, which fast eddie owns.
I think conservatism will
February 8, 2009 - 09:45 ET by BDI think conservatism will triumph if adequately defended. All the past support for Spectre bought us - WHAT?
no saint zero
February 7, 2009 - 15:27 ET by candanceThat won't make any difference at all come 2010. We will all be told to come together, help the party, find common ground. Sean Hannity and Bill Kristol will tell us to stop throwing a temper tantrum - a vote for an alternative is just a vote for Democrats!
After all, the slow poison is better than the fast poison. ;-)
But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.
-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823
Snowe, Collins, Specter
February 7, 2009 - 12:33 ET by Sergeant ROCKAre but one reason why I have not, and will not, ever give money to the GOP but rather to individuals as I see fit.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Understood
February 7, 2009 - 14:36 ET by CTMichael Steele needs to get this message.
Specter!
February 7, 2009 - 14:55 ET by blazermaniacThese three should be thrown out of office. As for Mr. Specter, he should be handed a football, at Heinz Field, with no lineman blocking for him and facing the Steelers defense.
I emailed a short note to Spectre...............
February 8, 2009 - 03:51 ET by old croarlen,
Notice I do not use the normal salutation when addressing a US senator, because in my eyes you have lost all respect from me and the party you supposedly represent. Your consistent back stabbing of this party that has helped you into power all of these years has reached it's zenith. Your support for the stimulus bill is bad for America, bad for Pennsylvania and bad for me and my family. You say the House has overwhelmingly passed it? Did you even look at WHO voted for it? No Republicans. Why? Because it is against all principles of the party. Please vote for this and try to regain your seat in the next election, because I will use all of my time and energy in seeing that you go down in embarrassing defeat.
With love and respect
old cro
OK, I really didn't say that last part :)
SGT Rock
February 7, 2009 - 16:51 ET by misterbillThey are among the reasons--with McCain as the prime reason, I resigned as a registered Republican after 40 years. There are no heros left, only venal prognosticators who could justify child rape if you let them.
Oh yes, they already have --it's called immigration reform.
Which is why..
February 7, 2009 - 17:09 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. I favor a coup in the GOP or simply forming a new party.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Definition
February 7, 2009 - 12:36 ET by SpaceManSpiffSocialist definition of patriot - See Comrade.
Yes, this will be
February 7, 2009 - 12:39 ET by gopsteveYes, this will be remembered when it flops. The msm will do their best to cover for Obama, and probably run features on all the THREE GOP senators who voted yes that spotlight their "yes" votes.
Hopefully, the GOP will remind the voters, unless they want to be nice in hopes of the Dems being nice back.
Funny though, GOP senators (these RINOs) only get praised by the NY Times when they side with the libs...who'd of thunked it?!
Reciprocation
February 7, 2009 - 14:28 ET by KC MulvilleBut that's the point. Democrats don't reciprocate.
Remember the Bork and Thomas confirmations to the Supreme Court? Bitter and partisan. When Clinton forwarded his nominations, several Republicans argued that if we wanted the Democrats to reciprocate with fairness, we had to be fair. Fine. So long as the candidates were qualified, the GOP refused to black a nomination on ideological grounds. The GOP, unanimously I think, confirmed Ginsburg and Breyer (who were certainly qualified, though predictably ideological).
When Roberts and Alito came up, who were clearly qualified, what kind of reciprocation did the Democrats show? Most Democrats, including Obama, voted against them.
The record's clear - they don't reciprocate.
Reciprocating Republicans
February 7, 2009 - 14:36 ET by Sergeant ROCKAnd yet, Republicans continue to do this expecting a different result?? Isn't that the definition of insanity??
Since you will be damned if you do, damned if you don't by the opposition.. you may as well do what is right for the country instead of bending over and grabbing your ankles just to 'get along' with democRATS!!!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Yeah,
February 7, 2009 - 19:16 ET by UpNorthif, every time you stick your finger in your eye and it hurts, and you keep on doing it, it at least borders on insanity. The talk radio station around here has a cmmercial for Rush, with the announcer saying, "bend over.......and take your punishment". Rush comes on and says, "that's the best damn definiton of this I've heard". So, thanks to the Gang on 3 for bending us over.
Gang of 3
February 7, 2009 - 19:20 ET by Sergeant ROCKlol.. that's funny. Now, in the name of bi-partisanship, grab your ankles!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
If these three cowards are all that the voters
February 7, 2009 - 12:42 ET by JTPin thier states have to choose from, I pity them.. Also, I would like to know what was given in return for thier votes if anything. If there were no buying of votes these people are more disgusting than if they did trade for some swine er oops pork. The names of these three should be broadcast loud and often.
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
That is exactly
February 7, 2009 - 12:46 ET by choselife3xWhat I said to Snowe's aide the last time I called. "Go ahead and switch parties and stop lying to people." CLICK.
I hate that I can't hang up with a SLAM on my cell phone. It would be so much more satisfying.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
ChoseLife....I am sad to
February 7, 2009 - 12:58 ET by celatorChoseLife....I am sad to say that Snowe and Collins are my senators. I implored them with calls and other correspondance to kill this thing. I am so ashamed of them and angry that I want to wait a bit to calm down so I can be rational before letting them know what I think of their quisling participation in this economic debacle.
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
Celator
February 7, 2009 - 14:00 ET by thebutlerdiditCount on me, and anyone here that will help, to help you, if you will seriously work to get them voted out. While I think the folks at Daily Kos are bat crap crazy, the one they do, is target certain pols that they want removed. It is a good plan. I think you would be just as well off having Democrats in there, who at least admit they are Dems. I think everyone should keep inundating their offices with calls/faxes/ what have you, and let them know we will be actively trying to get them voted out, even if we have to support a Dem. One good thing for Celator, you can guarantee which states will get the most dough on down the line.
Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke
Snowe and Collins
February 7, 2009 - 15:04 ET by doug1950I will write to them as soon as I find out, should "stupid bitch" be hyphenated?
I tried to listen to Collins explain in her rationale for voting for this in her best condescending school marm voice for us "ignernt" little people on television but had to change the channel before I pulled out my Glock and had an Elvis moment with the screen. Those NE liberal Repubs (all of them, not just Snowe and Collins) have been a ban to the Conservative element of the nation for years. I hope ya'll can vote these two hags out of office next go round.
Doug, TBDI...both liberals,
February 7, 2009 - 15:53 ET by celatorDoug, TBDI...both liberals, Collins and Snowe, have disguised themselves with the R label for years, as we all know. Three situations keep them in office.
1. There are R's in the state that still believe these two are R. Don't ask me why or how, that's just the way it is. So these people vote for them.
2. The major population centers in southern Maine have been infested with liberal D's who moved up from MA and NY years ago after destroying the politics of those states. These people know full well that Snowe and Collins are liberal D's at heart, so they keep voting them in. Collins was former senator Bill Cohen's adminstrative assistant for years, so she knows how to hide her liberal tendencies very well, as he did.
3. The R's in Maine are notoriously disorganized and ineffective. Useless, really. The D's are very well organized through the legislature and the Governor--Baldacci-- and his henchmen.
I could go on, but these issues are central to the politics of Maine.
So we have extraordinarily high taxes on all levels, manufacturing facilities leaving the state as fast as they can, the highest in the nation Medicare payments, and, as you might have guessed, a "sanctuary state" which attracts illegal aliens from all over the place. Most of them are on welfare, because no one can ask these creeps where they are from or for any ID. Sheer madness. And the D's in power are just as proud of all that as they can be.
There are some signs of hope. I hear more talk from increasingly angry people complaining about being screwed by the D's, more talk of how dishonest and corrupt state government is. But so far, it's only talk.
Thanks for the offer to assist. I would say send as many emails etc to Collins and Snowe as you can.
As to the idea that the state will receive "extra help" from the stimulus bill because of Snowe's and Collin's "cooperation", I would say, probably not. I doubt these two Senators were savvy enough to bargain for that (using bargain in a pejorative sense, in this case).
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
Senator Collins is dumb as a brick
February 7, 2009 - 17:32 ET by PopularTechHow the hell is this lady a Senator? I heard her talking and could not believe what I was hearing. She thinks $900 Billion but not $800 Billion is wasteful spending? What? She is insane. I guarantee you she voted for Obama, she has that stupid look and repeats the kool aide drinking talking points. Unbelievable. She is an absolute economic illiterate and thinks government can create jobs, how the hell did this lady get elected as a Republican? Maddening.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Pop are you sure
February 7, 2009 - 17:47 ET by cocodriePop are you sure bricks are that dumb? You usually provide links.
Jesus Loves You
PT... I heard her speech
February 7, 2009 - 17:55 ET by bigtimerPT...
I heard her speech too...maddening is right, but this is nothing new for her.
O summed her and Snow, Specter too most likely....and they asked the King how high can we jump for you?
I heard all the floor speeches last night, Lieberman made me way past furious, his BS about the govt. and them, the congress-critters are the only ones who can get us out of this mess was preposterous, they are the very people who aided and abetted for this mess.
The republicans who took to the floor last night were not happy whatsoever, McC actually had some fire in him for once, and for once I agreed with him.
I liked the way they pointed out the two members on our side of the aisle in all their speeches...(I think they were leaving out either Snowe or Specter, hoping they can change one of their minds, Specter wasn't exactly gung-ho about this all)
Time will tell.
I hope people start calling Monday morning all day long...I think they are going to try to have the vote before O's Hollywood Production Monday night.
How the hell is this lady a
February 7, 2009 - 20:26 ET by Dan The Man 2How the hell is this lady a Senator? I heard her talking and could not
believe what I was hearing. She thinks $900 Billion but not $800
Billion is wasteful spending?
I was watching some food show and it had an eatery in Manhatten that sold a pizza, maybe 12" pizza, for 5K. She is most likely one of those who would pay for it.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
cl3x
February 7, 2009 - 13:03 ET by sherylsimsYou could throw the phone... maybe at the wall or something. Or you COULD slam it down on the table and THEN click it. ;)
Sheryl, you just gave me an IDEA
February 7, 2009 - 13:20 ET by choselife3xOne word: AIRHORN.
ROFL!!!
Celator: we still love you. ;-)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Choselife.... aww
February 7, 2009 - 19:02 ET by celatorChoselife.... aww thanks.
The ONLY good thing that's come out of this is: I've been redoing my kitchen cabinets all week--stripping, sanding, etc. Each door has taken me about three hours to complete (trying to do a real good job so Mrs Celator will be happy), until today.
Today, I was so angry at Snowe and Collins that I took it out on the old paint and completed a door in half the time. True. ;+}
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
Righteous Fury
February 7, 2009 - 19:18 ET by choselife3xMakes the best elbow grease.
Working out the angst WHILE keeping the missus happy...talk about two birds with one stone! :-O
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
But back to the issue of the NYT.
February 7, 2009 - 12:45 ET by JTPDo they have a clue of what a Patriot is? It does not have anything to do with being a coward and everything to do with fighting for what you know is right even if it is unpopular.
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
The NYT's idea of
February 7, 2009 - 15:03 ET by kgThe NYT's idea of patriotism is to screw the taxpayer as their agenda gets pushed through.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Obama: Current economic woes are all Bush's fault
February 7, 2009 - 12:54 ET by krendlerThe latest from The Great Unifier...
http://uk.reuters.co...
This from the guy who went from crying about "discriminatory lending practices" to "predatory lending practices". Someone should point The Anointed One to the youtube video showing his buds Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and a slew of other Democrats chastising Republicans in 04 for daring to criticize what was going on at Fannie and Freddie.
When SOBama should have had
February 7, 2009 - 12:54 ET by Delsahis hand over his heart, he was grabbing his crotch and he is Patriotic?
Give me a break. The Patriots are those who refuse to vote for a government/union takeover of our country.
The real patriots want to save our Constitution not to mention our way of life.
I don't want to be living Russia lite.
If we keep going in SOBama's direction, we won't be able to turn back.
There is no talk of the people who pay their bills, take second job in order to stay near the surface! Maybe it is because these folks aren't out begging.
They aren't begging even though they may be on the street sooner rather than later.
The three Republican Senators who vote for this bill are the ones who's thought process has been corrupted. They are the dupes in this play being directed by the dictator POTUS and as far as being patriotic?
YOU BE THE JUDGE!
Just remember, when we start
February 7, 2009 - 12:57 ET by rbosqueJust remember, when we start having inflation we know who to blame. Of course the MSM will blame everyone else- but WE know who will be responsible. People are going to start to dump their dollars and buy Euros.
Of course,
February 7, 2009 - 19:23 ET by UpNorthit'll be GWB's fault. By then, the MSM will have lost the names of the R's who turned out to be turncoats, and all the dems who voted for this monstosity.
Buy gold, don't buy euros either.
Bi-partisan?
February 7, 2009 - 12:58 ET by Delsa3 Republicians between both houses of Congress is NOT Bi-partisan!
The dems today are catagorizing this bill as bi-partisan?
Give me a break!
That's called liberal math!
February 7, 2009 - 13:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKA side effect of outcome-based education.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
"Republicans Voting for
February 7, 2009 - 13:11 ET by R D Helm"Republicans Voting for Stimulus Package Are Being Patriotic."
No they aren't, they are being democrats, in that they are aiding and abetting what is actually Act II of the takeover of our economy by the federal government, and every last one of them should be removed from office.
Act III will be the federal government's takeover of our health care system.
There will be no need for an Act IV.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Hypocrisy
February 7, 2009 - 13:41 ET by slickwillie2001Now if the situation was reversed, the old media would be in an indignant huff, demanding to know if we were 'questioning the patriotism of democratics'.
Propaganda Blitz
February 7, 2009 - 13:48 ET by BondPlainBondWell, the liberal media is in full swing on this mandated(?) push of Socialism.
Check it out... From the folks at Salon.com:
Great Achievements in American Socialism
It's going to be a relentless media campaign for the next four years.
Elections??
February 7, 2009 - 13:55 ET by sawing battaOnce Obama gets to the immigration "reform" and illegals flood in to join some Americans in the quest for 'free' goodies like schip (and soon to be universal) healthcare via jobs on construction of "Dog Parks" and condom distribution (thanks to the "porkulus" bill) and once those illegals are armtwisted into joining the union at their jobs, the populist, err, socialist majority will be in place. Dependency on government created for a dramatically larger population than today, the 'elections' will be about a rush to offer more free stuff to an increasingly large share of the population in exchange for votes. Long term, a death spiral is created. All the building blocks are in place...it's happening.
Will we look back in a decade and realize we just saw the tipping point for America? i think World War vets are rolling over in their graves right now.
The economy will come back to some
February 7, 2009 - 14:24 ET by thebutlerdiditdegree, no matter what the Obama gang does. So, they can expect to take that as the stimulus was successful. The only hope we had, is if the economy didn't respond to this pkg., and no one wants prolonged recession, then we could have said, we tried to tell you it wouldn't work, no R's voted for this stinky bill. Now, our faux Repubs are behaving as Dems, Obama wins, either way.
Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke
I'm confused.
February 7, 2009 - 14:00 ET by JWFWhat did we do to Maine to deserve this?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
bringin' home the bacon
February 7, 2009 - 14:18 ET by sawing battaMaine has structural, systemic problems....especially under our new Rodney "why cant we all just get along" King foreign policy, military spend will not be increasing any time soon....that's not good for Maine.
This Porkulus bill gives their politicians the ability to bring home the bacon in a way never before seen...this isnt just bacon, it's the whole hog and most of his family. you can bet Maine will see a nice chunk of pork come their way...in exchange for the Republican vote...that's why.
JWF, maybe they are upset because they think that we...
February 7, 2009 - 14:26 ET by R D Helm...snatched them away from Canada.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Dave
February 8, 2009 - 01:58 ET by thebutlerdiditI propose we give the good people in Maine time to get out, and just give the rest to Canada. It is a beautiful state, but we might be much better off. Of course, I am willing to have Cali and NM go to Mexico, so what do I know?
Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke
Perhaps those Pennsylvania
February 7, 2009 - 14:07 ET by fitzfongPerhaps those Pennsylvania Republicans who voted to renominate Specter in 2004 will finally learn their lesson when it comes to the primaries in 2010.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Penn Republicans
February 7, 2009 - 14:10 ET by Sergeant ROCK... unless they're RINOs like him? How else does this clown keep getting elected??
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Bush campaigned for him in
February 7, 2009 - 14:14 ET by fitzfongBush campaigned for him in '04. Big mistake, in my view.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
The party know-it-all
February 7, 2009 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerThe party know-it-all big-wigs decided not to back Toomey money-wise, he was doing quite well back then.
They do this all the time, back the RINOs...it is time for them to go.
Plus the unions always back Specter too.
Infuriating.
And I think he favors the........
February 8, 2009 - 04:10 ET by old croFair Choice Act or whatever it's called to allow no secret ballot, just sign up with a goon in your face and poof, we're unionized. Why doesn't that suprise me.
Nothing's changed.
February 7, 2009 - 14:46 ET by pbthinkerAt least the NY Times isn't trying to do anything different to increase their readership. During the Bush years, if was bad for the country, the NY Times was all for it. Now, it appears to be the same.
Considering their track record, I don't believe I'll use the NY Times to figure out what's patriotic and what's not. This is the publication that couldn't wait to publish classified information to undermine our intelligence efforts to contain terrorists. 'Nuff said.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Three old ladies sold out the Republican Party and America.
February 7, 2009 - 14:57 ET by CTThese patriotic asshats, Collins, Snowe, and Specter are beneath contempt. Their treachery will be remembered long after they have gone to hell by the future generations of yet unborn taxpayers.
I still hate that picture!
February 7, 2009 - 15:06 ET by JWFCover your heart.
Cover your heart.
Cover your heart.
Cover your nads.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Noel, Everytime I see the
February 7, 2009 - 15:15 ET by Chris NormanNoel,
Everytime I see the picture that accompanies your post, I think of the AT&T Wireless TV ads "More bars in more places". :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
thanks libs
February 7, 2009 - 16:01 ET by candanceYou have all effectively admitted to us that everything you said the past eight years was a lie.
You don't think dissent is patriotic - you just think hating Bush is patriotic.
You don't think Congress is there to represent the people - you think Congress is there to do whatever the NY Times wants.
Why did Obama push for Republican support? Some think it was to have GOP fingerprints on it when it fails. Not me. This was a strategic effort to demoralize conservatives by showing them there will never be a filibuster. Obama has proven he can use enough fearmongering and political pressure to get GOP support for whatever he wants.
All Republican Congressmen are nothing but benchwarmers now. They mean absolutely zero.
Call and complain all you want, but it's over. This is what the next four years will look like.
But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.
-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823
Voting for this crap is patriotic...
February 7, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Army BratSo...voting against it is....
One good thing about all this..I'm on a diet and I find that I am constantly losing my apetite. I just wish the nausea would pass a little more quickly.
Happy Trails...
Collins defense
February 7, 2009 - 16:46 ET by slickwillie2001Susan Collins was on Fox News defending her vote for the stinker bill. She defends it because in her view, she 'saved' taxpayers $110B. Of course, had she simply voted against it, she could have saved taxpayers all $820B of it. I seriously think this woman is mentally deficient.
PS Her babytalk voice is almost as irritating as a freecreditreport.com jingle.
Patriotic Republicans
February 7, 2009 - 17:37 ET by vermontbillI left the Repulican party for the same reasons you are seeing the lack of cooperation on the stimulus bill. They are a party of black and white thinkers that want it their way or the highway. What arrogance to think they are always right and don`t have to listen to other opinions. This will kill the party dead. Republican is a poor word for the current thinkers. Somehow they think that discussion and compromise are unamerican-what is american to them is keeping what they have and giving no one else anything. I`ve got news for them-the people in the U.S. are onto their game and tired of them. That Rush Limbaugh and Joe the Plumber can actually talk to them like savants is pathetic. I was a Republican for 45 years and this party isn`t Republican!
People's Republic of Vermont
February 7, 2009 - 17:43 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, does that mean there are no Republicans left in PRV?
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
communist-statebill is your TROLL License current?
February 7, 2009 - 17:52 ET by CTCarbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!
People's Republic of Vermont
February 7, 2009 - 17:58 ET by Sergeant ROCKHis argument doesn't even make sense. Which is, Republicans need to go along with the democRATS for the exact reason he's criticizing Republicans for. Typical liberal.
Yeah, voting on something for the sole purpose of being bi-partisan has paid dividends for longer than I can remember...
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Your right, vermont bill, they are democrats now
February 7, 2009 - 17:59 ET by R D HelmNo right-thinking republican, or anyone else who truly loves freedom, would EVER vote for a bill that is going to essentially represent the largest government power-grab in all of recorded history.
Hope you are enjoying eating off of your shiny new set of Obama commemorative dinner plates. :-)
BTW-I left the party 12 years ago and joined the libertarians. At least they are still interested in keeping this a free country. The democrats abandoned that ideal nearly 80 years ago.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Plates???
February 7, 2009 - 18:00 ET by Sergeant ROCKNah.. he got that Obama coin collection, complete with a thank-you letter signed by Montel Williams!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Telling and reporting the
February 7, 2009 - 18:43 ET by SlicksterTelling and reporting the truth is patriotic, blindly following the masses is just being a useful idiot.
Cooperation on the Stimulus Bill? Do you understand economics?
February 7, 2009 - 20:01 ET by PopularTechWhat is there to compromise on? Stimulus spending can do nothing but make the problem worse, the government has no wealth.
1. What country has even in history spent their way out of a recession?
2. Where is the money from the stimulus coming from?
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Are you sure you're not a "Seminar Poster" ?
February 7, 2009 - 20:03 ET by Free StinkerI was a Republican for 45 years and this party isn`t Republican!
Are you sure you're not a "Seminar Poster" ? You know, one of those people who have been told to go out and call talk radio or post on blogs that "I have been a long time Republican/Conservative, but . . ."
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Pork
February 7, 2009 - 22:34 ET by imissamericaSo in your opinion, pork-trimming, bacon frying Sen. Ben Nelson is the definition of a true American patriot? No wonder our country is in the crisis it is right now.
http://democralypsen...
I guess Patriotism is in
February 7, 2009 - 23:10 ET by RR GOPI guess Patriotism is in the eye of the beholder.
All these years I thought it meant something else.
So glad Obama Bin Biden have got my mind right.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
I know all of you are
February 8, 2009 - 03:27 ET by jdhawkI know all of you are pissed off regarding this three quislings, but these are the usual suspects less McCain. Why he isn't going RHINO on this one is anyones guess.
Nevertheless, everyone should take the time to call, e-mail, or write these three senators and tell them they are dead wrong on this NO stiumlus package. That they are giving the dimocrats a filibuster proof bill.
Please call Snow, Collins, and Specter and voice your opposition to their vote despite the fact that they may not be your senators.
Also, write, e-mail, or call your senators, if they are Republican, and thank them for not voting for this bill. They need our support. The pressure on them to vote yes is outrageous. The dims are going to target the most vociferous of them for extinction come the next election. Meanwhile, they will do everything they can to lock them out of all discussions of all future bills.
The "moderate" Libpublicans
February 8, 2009 - 05:04 ET by semolina_filcherI suspected Collins, Snowe, and spineless Specter going with the Obama porkulus plan. So much for the GOP Senators sticking to their principles......PA and Maine voters...remember your senators when their re-election day nears.