Iran Snubs Obama: What Will Media Think of Diplomacy Now?

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President Barack Obama's olive branch to Iran was seriously snubbed in the past couple of days as key figures within the Islamic nation made it clear that they have no interest in talking with America unless we change our policies.

Even worse, an Iranian government spokesman said Obama's statement on Al Arabiya Wednesday concerning a willingness to talk to Iran "means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed."

Might this alter the press's repeated view the previous eight years that tensions in the Middle East were largely caused by President Bush's refusal to talk to Iran without preconditions concerning that nation's nuclear buildup, and that all would be well in the world if we would just agree to meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on any terms?

Such analysis seems critical given Saturday's report from Xinhua:

Iran's government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham on Saturday urged the United States to change its policy towards Iran and the world, saying the country has no choice.

Responding to the U.S. offer of direct talks between Iran and the United States, Elham said that "there remains no choice for the United States but change, and this change is determined to be done," Iran's Mehr news agency reported.

Elham said that "the U.S. behavior of focusing on the secondary matters will not solve any issue. Negotiation and the like is secondary, the main issue is there is left no other choice in the world but change."

He said the U.S. request of the talks "means the passivity of the Western thought, the failure of capitalist thought and the failure of the system of domination."

Even worse, as NPR reported Friday, Ahmadinejad was also unimpressed with Obama's offer:

On Wednesday, Iran's President Ahmadinejad made it clear that as far as he was concerned, the U.S. would have to remove the perceived threat to his nation before Iran could believe the new U.S. president was serious about engagement.

Wherever there is war, Ahmadinejad told a crowd in the western city of Kermanshah, it is either because of America's military presence or America's improper interference. When they say the policy is going to change, Ahmadinejad said, it means they should remove their military forces and take them to their own borders.

Ahmadinejad went on to enumerate a well-known list of grievances that Iran has with the U.S. The U.S. will have to apologize for the CIA-organized coup that put the Shah of Iran back in power in 1953, for backing Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s and much more, Ahmadinejad said.

Actually in 2000, then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright did apologize for the 1953 U.S.-backed coup and for supporting Saddam Hussein in his war with Iran.

Ahmadinejad all but overlooked the language of engagement and dialogue that President Obama has used this week.

So much for diplomacy, huh?

Of course, more important in the days to come is how our media will report this snubbing.

Stay tuned?

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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But...but...but...I thought

But...but...but...I thought that once the One was anointed, the whole world was going to love us!

The Iranian Hitler is testing Obama to see how he reacts. Let's all hope Obama is paying attention during his morning intelligence briefings. Should the Israelis drop the ball and somehow fail to act, Iran will soon be a nuclear power.

That cannot be allowed to happen.

As for the MSM, I am sure they will be pushing Obama into kissing up to Iran in every way possible. After all, we all know that it is the Israelis who are the real problem in that region.  :-^)

As for Albright, she has to have been the most intellectually vacant individual to ever roam the halls of Foggy Bottom.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Wow!  Didn't see that

Wow!  Didn't see that coming!  LOL

He did say "no preconditions," right?

And as soon as he was inaugurated, apparently his first order of foreign policy business was to write a letter to Mahmoud, right?

Didn't he say time to put away childish things????

Well, Mr. President, "magical thinking" is one of those childish things that you're going to have to put away!

Dave & MB Now Iran gets to demand the preconditions

Obama should just speed things up by giving them our nukes as it would save them trouble and we aren't using ours anyway.  It would be the charitable thing to do. 

Dee... I'm laughing and

Dee...

I'm laughing and angry about all of this at the same time...even though I read about this first thing this morning.

You got a great zinger in with your post above.

Charitable thing to do indeed.

Maybe UPS can deliver....lol.

Hi BT

It's all very disturbing really - Castro is demanding conditions from him also.  All the sudden it's the dictators who tell us what to do. 

 

Dee... Yep...and O fits

Dee...

Yep...and O fits right in with them too.

IMHO.

Yep

Dee,

Of course they're telling us what to do.  They know Obama is weak and has no will or even desire to stand up to them. 

They're testing the water and finding it quite comfortable.

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

Michelle & BT - wonder what the other dictators will have to say

Kim Jong IL and Medvedev/Putin haven't spoken up yet They'll probably play nice while they take our money to strengthen their empires. 

Think Obama

Is going to give him the tongue lashing he likes to give every one else he disagrees with. No doubt he still thinks Rush is more dangerous

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

 And he does! For

 And he does!

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

General

"Is going to give him the tongue lashing"

Lashing? With those tyrants it'll be more like licking.

 

Gary



Sorry Al, I've used up my allotment of "give a crap!"

That's why the dictators

That's why the dictators and America haters of the world were unified in their support of Obama. They knew he was an easy mark. And they were right. This is a dream come true for them.

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

cel and Dave... Couldn't

cel and Dave...

Couldn't agree more with either of your posts.

Obama's extraordinary

Obama's extraordinary naivete becomes clearer by the day, doesn't it?

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

Dee & bt,

Obama is in so far over his head he can no-longer see the bottom.

Iran is toying with him, much in the same way a cat toys with its prey. They sense weakness, and that is something you never want to let the Islamists see, as they will exploit that weakness to the hilt.

If Iran should manage to somehow get its hands on a nuke or three, we could be looking at real trouble, and soon.

And that's not including the Chinese, the Russians, Venezuela, North Korea, India and Pakistan. 

Obama is stuck in the middle of a veritable minefield, with nary a clue as to how to get out of it.

I am not even sure he senses the danger in the first place, as he appears to believe, particularly in the case of the Islamists, that he is dealing with reasonable people.

He isn't.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Dave, as has been said many

Dave, as has been said many times here, Obama doesn't know what it is he doesn't know. That's, as you say, a veritable minefield--but for all of us.

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

Hey Mother,  Apparently

Hey Mother, 

Apparently there are "preconditions"....FROM THE TERRORISTS! LMAO !

"Iran's President Ahmadinejad made it clear that as far as he was concerned, the U.S. would have to remove the perceived threat to his nation before Iran could believe the new U.S. president was serious about engagement."

So while his obambi-ness doesn't have preconditions good 'ol "Imadinnerjacket " has a few of his own. Can you say TURD BREATH for mister Obama? yikes.

Well this is what happens

Well this is what happens when you telegraph your weakness to the enemy: they take advantage of it.

Obama let it be known that he would talk to Ahmedinejad without pre-conditions...so the Iranian says OK, here are my preconditions.

I said before, what if Ahmedinejads says "OK, let's talk, but I won't discuss this, or that, or that other thing....."

Is Obama supposed to say, OK,  how about them Steelers?

Saying you'll talk is one thing; saying you'll let the other person control the conversation is something else.

And old but true saying:

MB: an old but true saying: The one who has the least interest in a political "relationship" has the most power. Keep your duct tape at the ready!

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

It reminds me of that priceless

rant Dennis Miller did on Harry Reid. He said, "Hey Harry, the first rule of Fight Club, is you don't talk about Fight Club!" I think of that everytime I see Obama acting wimpy and saying we are doomed.

BTW, I saw a great cartoon on this very thing over at Big Hollywood. Great site, very weird trolls.

Oh yeah, did anyone else see where they were rioting in France? They had a picture of the O burning. The reporters breezed right by that, and didn't mention it. It was a flash, and then gone. When they did to Bush, it was the lead part of the story, how they all hated us, everywhere. LOL Guess what, libs, they still ALL hate us!!

 

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

OBAMA: IRAN SLAPS HIS FACE

 OBAMA: IRAN SLAPS HIS FACE

IN RESPONSE, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad launched
a fresh tirade against the United States, demanding an apology for its
“crimes” against Iran and saying he expected “deep and fundamental”
change from Obama.


CRAWFISH NOTE:

How’s that fawning “change” policy
workin for ya now, Obama? Not so good. Its because these thugs NEVER
RESPECT WEAKNESS…have you ever studied 20th Century History (I did in
grad school)? What a pantywaist. It seems your “only words” don’t
get-r-done. Does Iran love us now? Why not, you have groveled? Guess
Iran is not into the “new fawning tone”. Back on your knees!!

You would think that after dufus Jimmah Carter Obama would have a clue… but…noooo. Stuck in the fantasyland of liberalism.


Reminds me of when Klintonite SOS Maddy Albright finally admitted
communist North Korea “LIED” to her. Ya think? Gee, communists lie.
Wow, democrats are always the last to know.
http://www.conservab...

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Spot On crawfish!

When I was a kid, and my sister and I did something bad, my mom would say "your father's going to talk to you when he gets home".

Dread....sheer dread.

The man was a veritable talking head....yack, yack, yack.  My sister and I would cringe.....getting the old "talking to" was a pain worse than her flip flop on top of the fridge...."Mom, hit us, please just smack us one and  be done with it".

Unfortunately, Nation States are exactly the opposite of children, and no one is afraid of being talked to death, Mr. President. 

What goes around comes around....keep on talking, Obama....yeah, that'll work.

 

Funny

I would have thought they would get a nice cuppa and have a nice thug to thug talk...

We had honest Abe, now we have dishonest Obama..

Jan 20, 2009 The day the Jan 20, 2009 The day the constitution died died... RIP.

motherbelt,

"apparently his first order of foreign policy business was to write a letter to Mahmoud, right"

Not sure if he wrote a letter, but upon his anointing his very first phone call to a foreign leader was to an Arab, and his very first TV interview was with an Arab TV station.

You have to wonder about his priorities.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

→ Off limits

When Senator Obama let "my Muslim Faith" roll so smoothly and effortlessly off his tongue, I quit wondering.

What the heck, McCain didn't say anything about Obama's penchant for sniffing sheep butts, either.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran

Letter to Iran

I was going  references to it in several places, including the Huffington Post and this at Crooks and Liars

Whether it actually got sent, I don't know.

That's Easy

They will say it's all GWB's fault.

He provoked IRAN, that is why they are so being so mean to us know.  They will say that it is commendable that "THE ONE" is reaching out to them. They say that it will take years to fix the damage that GWB has done.

Oh and by the way.... just ignore the free elections that are happening over in IRAQ today.  They aren't real elections.

Fleeting Credibility is a B**ch . (MSM)

Bingo.

it CANT be the fault of our Great and Omnipotent Leader, it must be something else...now what could we blame it on that will protect our Leader??   Hmnn...Wait, I got it, BUSH.

it is Bush's fault.  [insert Tommy Flanagan voiceover] The problems he created are going to take YEARS to fix. it's perfect!

(read: dont expect our policy to work and when it doesnt, we'll ask for more money and it'll still be Bush's fault)

Oh, and as for free elections in Iraq, they happened on Obama's watch...therefore His Greatness will get credit for them under the msm template. 

Always pray towards Mecca------

What, Obama was told to pack sand by Admidedwhackjob, well this a perfect time for Obama to show off his contortionist abilities. Somehow he will figure out a way to acquiesce to the totally outrageous demands of Mahmoud. It could be something to put on U-Tube, "Watch Barack Obama climb up his own tokus, he's doing it for the sake of the nation". Of course, Mahmoud won't be impressed until the National Cathedral is converted into a Mosque.

 

This guy is going to get us all killed!!!

Soon to be released...

From the Office of the President:

"Unfortunately, we have tried and failed to communicate with the Iranian Government. We attempted to make direct contact with them, beginning with lower level officials all the way to the current leadership, and were rebuked. Clearly our current policies -the policies of the last eight years- have limited our ability to resolve the issues of the majority of Middle Eastern governments, and only a shift in this aggressive policy will make change possible. As the President proclaimed during the campaign, we will repair relations with countries that don't like us very much, and reparations have begun in earnest. First, we are withdrawing our defense shields from Israel. Second, we'll be holding a Peace Summit in Damascus. This should occur sometime this summer and the Vice President will be attending. And thirdly, we will be sending an Apology Proclaimation door-to-door and requiring all citizens to sign. We believe this will put us in a better light in the eyes of our new friends in Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Thank you- and no questions please."

BK

That is hilarious. however, also scary...I can see that happening

"We will not tire, We will no falter, We will not fail." President George W. Bush, October 26, 2001

BK, Pross... Same here.

BK, Pross...

Same here.

Exactly right

BKeyser.  Make sure every citizen signs the apology.  We can always have Mr and Mrs Demi Moore deliver it for us.  After all, they want to "serve" the pres. 

If it weren't so danged

If it weren't so danged POSSIBLE it'd be hysterical!

Yep- that post was only half

Yep- that post was only half in jest... oh wait, someone's at the door... brb...

So The One is finding that

So The One is finding that while our media fawn over his every move and they love him in France and Germany, it's not quite as easy dealing with Iran.

Inside, he has to be thinking "Bush was right, these ARE bad guys!"

PS - How'd that groveling to the mideast media work out?

Wait until he goes there!

Have faith folks, once Achmadickwad meets Obammy in person and experiences his confident smile and kind eyes, I expect things will change. I expect a German-style reception with a speech in the center of Tehran. All those goose-stepping Iranian Revolutionary Guard troops will warm Obammy's heart and they will realize how much they have in common.

Obama is about three dance

Obama is about three dance steps away from getting on his knees and apologizing to Ahmadinejad for past and future failures of the US.

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

Obama needs to be nicer to Muslims

That will work, you'll see!!  Sad thing is that Obama truly doesn't know what he's doing.  Of course, conservatives have known that all along.  The terrorists are going to screw Obama to the wall...unfortunately, a lot of Americans are going to be hurt.

Angry White Dude

www.angrywhitedude.c...

Yes, the terrorists saw

Yes, the terrorists saw this guy coming for miles. That's why you'd read about their support of Obama when he was running. Of COURSE they wanted him to win. They must feel like they've won the lottery.

And, yes, we citizens are the ones who will have to pay the price and it's going to be a doozy.

I guess we aren't in Chicago anymore.

For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

They smell the weakness.

They smell the weakness.

Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

Obama is rapidly proving my worst fears of his election.

His words are empty and his actions speak volumes.

He said he would never turn his back on Israel and would never place it second in the Middle East.

Yet his first call as President was to the head of the PLO before any call was made to Israel (Israel second).

He brings in Susan Rice as U.N. Representative reporting directly to him and not Hillary. And her first speech in the U.N. demands that Israel investigate war crimes they committed during the Gaza conflict.

He goes on air with an interview blaming the Middle East problems primarily on the United States and apologizes to Muslims for our misbehavior. 

He then hires Samantha Power - probably one of the most notable anti-Israel foreign policy people - as his advisor.

And now he starts groveling to Ahmadinejad - the one thing Israel begged him not to do.

The 75% of American Jews who voted for this wolf in sheep's clothing will soon find out that they did vote for a man who grew up hating Israel and loving Muslims.

We are all finding out quickly also how utterly incompetent this man is.

American capitalists shameful, Praise be to Ackadinnerjackel

We are cast adrift by the OAF in office..

 
bye bye FREEDOM

(D)

 

Unless we change our

Unless we change our policies? That's already begun. Obama has ordered an 11% reduction in the Defense budget. It's another overt sign of weakness.

The good news? Although the Defense budget is being slashed, we still have enough money to sod the capital lawn ($140M) and for ATV trail maintenance ($24M). Now those are the priorities of a socialist president and communist members of Congress.

___________________________________ 

The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech

This deeply concerns me

I follow the news pretty regularly on line.  This is the first I've heard of an 11% cut in our defense budget.  Why won't the media report on this?  I know the answer to that question.

First I've heard of this

First I've heard of this too...although I knew it would happen with this leftist party and their messiah.

God help us all...

Color me furious!

Defense cuts link

Sorry -- I should have linked to Fox News for the story, here.

___________________________________ 

The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech

Hey TnT... thank

Hey TnT...

thank you...just read it.

I usually read Fox in the morning, hadn't got there yet today, so I am grateful for this information.

I'm going to be listening/watching what and how they do this Monday....we all know the msm will be cheering behind them....along with the enemies we have.

Despicable...

Thanks, TNT

I had no idea, but I am not surprised.

Unbelievable.

Impeach the jerk, now.

 

DoD budget cuts

Well, let's get the facts straight.  It is a mischaracterization to suggest it is a proposed 11% cut from the current defense budget.  It refers to a possible reduction in the 2010 budget request by the DoD, the amount of which request, I believe, considerably exceeds the budget for 2009.

Jer

Being that both parties

Being that both parties concurred that a significant increase was needed (Including the continuation of the ramp up of the 20,000 additional troops in the force structure) we can only anticipate the bad old days of Clinton and Carter have returned.

I wonder how many flag formations we can expect to have "The One" remove from the field?

It was blatently obvious to those of us on active duty that an 8-10 division structure in the late 90's was inadequate and served only as a placeholder force.  But looks like we will be trapped there at the point of culmination.

If the 8-10 force structure

If the 8-10 force structure was obviously inadequate in the late 90's, why was it not increased--assuming it wasn't--during the past eight years under Bush and Repub congress?  [BTW, I'm not disagreeing with the notion that we have been operating beneath optimal levels of troop strength.]

Back later,

Jer

Essentially, steps have

Essentially, steps have been taken to put the flesh back on the bones that were so poorly amputated in the 90's.

THe long lead time event of seeking to put an other flag unit in the force structure (Usually 3-5 years to get a division sized unit up an operating as well as a previously established one) has caused the DOD to take some unusual steps to eliminate such an issue.

The move of the force to a Brigade oriented rather than division oriented force has allowed the unusual step of placing an additional maneuver (in one case two) brigade in each division structure. and the use of brigades as self supporting organizations that can be traded into and out of theater as force is necessary.

For the past several years the Bush administration has "Lean-ed" out the force to reduce teeth to tail ratio in the effort to get more force theater ready (Fewer instructors at schools, and now contractors made up of retirees take up a significant portion of the rolls etc) while the DOD has sought to add 20,000 additional troops to the Army and another several thousand to the Marines.

Most people say, "Oh, you should be able to add 20,000 troops to the army in a year" like we did during WWII, but that misses the complexity of the differing roles of just those new personnel.

In WWII most soldiers jobs were simple in comparison to todays force.  You could draft a 28 year old and make him a First sergeant within a year.  No one imagines the same is possible today.

So, to get a force of 20,000 new soldiers added to the force will take a longer timeframe and will only happed if allowed to by the Administration.  Just a guess, but it will take 3-6 more years to get it fully assimilated.  (By the way, I am not a specialist in the force structure issues, but have heard from those who are that the last time we did something similar was the 10th Mountain in 1984-90 and that was tough even with the flush budgets of the Reagan years.)

 

Great post BD

As an aside, I found this to be a great look at where the U.S. military comes from;

Map

Article

Oh and in case anyone want's to know a little bit more;

A history of the 10th Mountain

 

 

 

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

The numbers.....

to consider are;

$515.4 billion for the Department of Defense’s (DOD's)
base budget FY 09

$581 Billion FY-10 Budget

minus the 58.1 billion in ask for cuts......

equals 522.9

Which is a little over a 1% increase in budget size from 09 to 10. 

So, not accounting for inflation or anything like that, President Obama will claim he has actually increased defense spending and increased the DoD's budget. 

Mark my words, the trend of exploitation of the "facts" is just gettin started. President Obama will soon be trumpeted as providing more funding for the military than President Bush ever did.    

We've walked through the looking glass.  

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

This is no snub

Iran is paying Obama the ultimate compliment in acknowledging who Obama is and what he is all about.

Iran really approves of Obama's policies. 

Obama has already ordered the Joint Cheifs to cut $50 billion from the defence budget! Never mind we are at war and increasing our numbers in Afganistan.

Now all the son of a bitch has to do is have the congress vote that all Americans have to follow Mohammed!

Shouldn't take long.

Hey Barry, Now that Mahmoud

Hey Barry, Now that Mahmoud owns you after gave him a Lewinski, what's your encore with the Russians?

How does that song go?

"Oh, look what you've done
You've made a fool of everyone."

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

Oh...Sexy 'Bammie...you'll get your's yet

"One sunny day, the world was waiting for a lover.
She came along to turn on everyone,
Sexy 'Bammie , the greatest of them all.

Sexy 'Bammie, how did you know?
The world was waiting just for you?

We gave her everything we owned just to sit at her table.
Just a smile would lighten everything..."

 

An alternate headline might

An alternate headline might be, "Iranian leader calls Obama a punk ass beyotch!"

All kidding aside and I apologize for that decent into gutter language but it seemed appropriate. The question is, "Will the Media Report This as The GAFFE that it is?" Here you have a president demonstrably DIMINISHING the respect of the country with his pansy act of appeasement and ending  up with turd breath! Surely this is a "misstep" or whatever they'dve called it if Bush had done it?

But wait, it just occurred to me, WILL THE FECKLESS REPUBLICANS BE ALL OVER THIS ON THE SUDAY SHOWS??? That my friend is indeed the question.  

New SAT Question

Iranian Mullahs see Obama as a: 

  1. Cheap Fiddle
  2. Chew Toy
  3. Kick Ball
  4. Mooslim-Lyte
  5. Leader Of The Great State Of Satan
  6. All Of The Above

Thanks Obambi...Head Muslim aplogist for the US

What dangerous stupidity will you subject the people of the United States to next?

How will your naivete' and ignorance endanger us in the future?  What brutal dictatorship will you embolden next?

North Korea has thrown down the gauntlet.  Have you noticed?  Too busy consolidating power and working on your never ending campaign to take note I'll wager.

This egotistic child is going to get Americans killed...soon.  God help us, cause Obambi damn sure won't.

Do I sound angry?  Well...I'm also disgusted with this coward Obambi...to my core.

Threats all around us and he wants the Penatagon to cut the spending that keeps us safe.  Another great message to send to our enemies.  

He's drafting a letter of apology to Iran?  Uh...consult history Obama...you know...stuff that's already happened.  Bill apologized.  Albright apologized.  But you go ahead and get on your knees to them again.  That'll keep em' from nuking Israel or us.

The fact that Iran is test firing missiles from ships at sea doesn't concern him.  Hey Barry!   Ever heard of "Electromagnetic Pulse"?  I'm sure you have...it may be coming to a city near you courtesy of your relaxed attitude that so many love.

Our security is in the hands of an ignorant, self absorbed, dangerous child.    

God save the Republic from this asshat.

Happy Trails...

Ex Navy

As one ex navy boat sailor I'm as pissed as you.  This guy has no business in as POTUS unless we are becoming the USSA.

Pres. "I have not yet begun

Pres. "I have not yet begun grovelling enough" Obama is getting in his B.ends H.einey O.ver position for Madhmoud Amamadjihadi. This is what happens when you place a libtard ideologue in the highest office of the nation. Mr. B.H.O. has just been found wanting the same way that Pres. Kennedy was found weak, lacking in seriousness and gravitas by then Soviet President Kruschev at their first meeting in 1961, which led directly to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Once again Cassandra Joesephine Biden may be right that six months in Mr. Obama will be over his head in a crisis. The last two weeks are not promising in that regard.

 

AB... I saw your post

AB...

I saw your post here hours ago, I got interrupted, but I didn't forget.

Just want you to know we're with you and your same sentiments all the way to our home.

You speak for a lot of us.

(shaking my

(shaking my head)-Ahmadinejad just doesn't get it, Man.  He needs to be like, you know, all Zen and $hit and like, chill.  Can't he see that The One loves him and all the other victims of Bush/neo-con imperialism?  Truly a bummer.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

How Obama ultimately responds to Iran's challenge...

...will set the tone for the remainder of his tenure as POTUS.

He is now standing at the fork in the road foreign-policy wise. Should he choose badly and show weakness in any way, our enemies on this rock will have a field day exploiting that weakness from here on out.

Don't believe me? Just ask Jimmy Carter.

Obama can save himself, this nation, and a future administration from a whole lot of grief if he were to do the right thing now.

The only question is, will he?

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Obama wouldn't know

The right thing to do if it slapped him in the face.
I just hope he listens to someone who does.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

chose, I am not ready to give up on Obama just yet

The stakes are just too high.

It is still possible for him to salvage this thing before it comes irreparably  unraveled. That will, of course, require him to do something that to this point he has appeared unwilling to do, and that is to grow a spine.

As I said at the top of the thread, I hope he is paying close attention to the intelligence briefings.

Jihad Jimmy ignored most of his, and as for Bill Clinton, well, nevermind.

Should Obama fail to rise to the occasion and knock Akhmedinadinnerjacket down about three pegs on the international totem pole, then this planet is headed for a war that you are not going to believe.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

I see it as an arrogance issue

On his part.
"I can solve any problem with my rhetoric. All we need to do is talk, tell us how we've wronged you and I'll fix it."

Our only hope is that someone with common sense has his ear, and can persuade him not to do anything extraordinarily stupid.

His liberal instincts will inevitably lead him to make the wrong decision.

It's a scary time to have small children.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

This is just another blunder

Created by the Dems and Obama. No doubt Bush and his folks new this would be the responce from Amanutjob. But the Dems in their conceit and arrogance just did not believe the former administration and end up looking like fools. What bothers me the most is, Obama has clearly reduced the office by believing he can use the same dopy change speak with other world leaders, and the nut jobs as well. He has turned a somewhat benign situation and singlehandedly cranked it up a few notches. What makes this dangerous is the simple fact Obama will continue this tact instead of aggressively confronting this jerk.

Just like the heating of the Oval office, Obama and his cronies seem more likly to flaunt their elitist side instead of just using a small amount of common sense.

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Interesting.  Two years of

Interesting.  Two years of listening to The One run with "talking with Iran" and in 10 seconds Ahmadenaboob blows it all off as weak.

Nah, no one saw that one coming.

GregE.... Nope...not at

GregE....

Nope...not at all. ;-)

...but what the heck and golly gee...matters not to the leftist msm...he's the ONE.

RD

You're great but you have ignored the people around this empty suite.

SOBama is NOT making any of these decisions on his own. Whoever pulls his strings has him believeing he is special and important. They have even got him thinking he is smart?

SOBama can't make decisions he is not equiped to make.

He is a disaster on every front and the American people will suffer greatly because of him and his handlers.

Delsa, I realize that Obama is not his own man

In fact, I doubt that he can even relieve himself without the permission of George Soros, Michelle, his mother-in-law, and the DNC.

However, he is our current CIC, and as such, how he came to be that no-longer matters.

I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and afford him his chance to respond to the Iranian challenge, as he hasn't done so (officially) to this point.

Should he wuss out, then I shall be among the first to call for his removal as POTUS and CIC.

Even given the empty suit that he is, Obama has to at least realize the buck stops with him.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Barack Obama is Comprehension Challenged

"Islam can be compatible with the modern world. It can be a partner with the Christian & Jewish & Hindu & Buddhist faiths in trying to create a better world." Barak Obama 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008

compatible = capable of existing together in harmony.
Islam is a 700 AD religion and has NO rights for women.

partner = to join as a partner.
Islam and the Jewish religion partners?
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"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Barack Obama from 'Audacity of Hope'

Obama thinks Hamas and Iran can become partners with America and Israel?

“At the “World Without Zionism” conference held in Tehran in October 2005, as the crowd chanted “death to Israel, death to America, death to England,” the Iranian President Ahminajead said...with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt.”

Obama is talking about negotiating with the madman from Iran who has stated in no uncertain terms that America and Israel will be destroyed in Ahminajeads lifetime?

"When

you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out. "