Hey. red_dragon ... not to be too cynical, but in six months, no one in the media will remember who voted for what. They'll have moved onto the next smear against conservatives.

That's the political problem here. It's the domestic economic version of an unconventional war - there won't be a final whistle when we separate the winners from the losers. Look at Iraq. The surge has now succeeded, spectacularly, but no one's paying attention because there's no ninth inning final out. It just sort of keeps going, with no "final" score. In the same way, no matter what effect the stimulus has, the media will have no final whistle by which to judge whether it was a success or failure. They won't have any "event" to report, and there won't be any pictures or soundbytes, so it'll just pass by, unnoticed.

The GOP won't get any credit, and the Dems won't get any blame. The media will just glide over the facts as they always do, and declare the Dems the winner, because ... you know ... they're the good guys, right?

 if Congress and Obama just give money back to the American Taxpayer(us) then:

1. They lose control and power over us.

2. They can't manipulate words and sentence structure to give the money back to the people who got them elected. I mean tax exemptions go along way when you get them for your donors...hmm, hmmm Owl Gore.

3. They can't redistribute the money to those who don't pay taxes. The illegals and welfare hounds need thier extra free money. I mean they are the ones who will spend it on drugs, beer, alcohol, and all the while skipping over the free contraceptives. This way they can make more burdens on society. 

“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”  - Thomas Jefferson

Obama is the one who made Rush an issue when he told the GOP to stop listening to him.

But he was elected, by an overwhelming majority of U.S. citizens, to make such decisions on our behalf.

As was Bush.  So where were the press in their fawning defense of the president then? The hypocracy of that is just plain nauseating and cries out about their collective 1-digit IQ.

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

Why the rush to pass this bill?

I didn't see much Bi-partisan discussion or any public discussion for that matter to what this stimulus package was going to accomplish. I haven't seen much from either side of the aisle try to find out exactly what is wrong and what it really is going to take to help the economy. If this economy has the flu I don't have much confidence in the Government's ability to even discern poison from a vaccine when it comes to curing the illness and IMO most Governmental action makes the problem worse or is the problem to begin with.

To me Rush is as qualified as much as any congress critter to make suggestions and reccomendations, Rush's doesn't cost anything either and we at least will start thinking about what it is going to take. From the bloggers here helping American families either through direct contributions (corporations call it declaring as special dividend) or tax cuts is what they need to help pay their bills.

This rushed legislation has been a Dem boondoggle from the git go. It seems to be either a reward for toeing the Dem line, or just throwing money at something so the Dems can be seen as "doing something" about the economy.  

Change: When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles. From a Poster

 "Nope.  But he was elected, by an overwhelming majority of U.S. citizens, to make such decisions on our behalf.  "

Since part of his message during the campaign was to label Bush as an incompetent failure for spending too much money, I'm sure they didn't elect him to increase spending by an additional trillion dollars his first 2 weeks in office. 

Sure, he won, but I gurantee you the overwhelming majority did not elect him to do things that will ruin this country.

By the way, when did Obama get his economics degree, or any other degree that makes him an expert on the economy?

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."