Google Plans To Use Editorial Judgments In Search Results

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Despite conservative grumblings of liberal bias, Internet behemoth Google has for years claimed its search engine exclusively uses algorithms to provide accurate and impartial results for those interested in finding out information concerning a particular subject.

Google's CEO Eric Schmidt affirmed this contention while speaking to a group of conservative bloggers during the Republican National Convention in St. Paul this past September.

According to the British Register, such a digitally impartial procedure, assuming it indeed exists today, may at some time in the future be altered:

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[W]hen five years ago I described how a small, self-selected number of people could rig Google's search results, the reaction from the people doing the rigging was violently antagonistic. Who lifted that rock? they cried.

But what was once Googlewashing by a select few now has Google's active participation.

This week [Google’s Vice President of Search Product and User Experience] Marissa Meyer explained that editorial judgments will play a key role in Google searches. It was reported by Tech Crunch proprietor Michael Arrington - who Nick Carr called the "Madam of the Web 2.0 Brothel" - but its significance wasn't noted. The irony flew safely over his head at 30,000 feet. Arrington observed:

Mayer also talked about Google’s use of user data created by actions on Wiki search to improve search results on Google in general. For now that data is not being used to change overall search results, she said. But in the future it’s likely Google will use the data to at least make obvious changes. An example is if “thousands of people” were to knock a search result off a search page, they’d be likely to make a change.

Now what, you may be thinking, is an "obvious change"? Is it one that is frivolous? (Thereby introducing a Google Frivolitimeter™ [Beta]). Or is it one that goes against the grain of the consensus? If so, then who decides what the consensus must be? Make no mistake, Google is moving into new territory: not only making arbitrary, editorial choices - really no different to Fox News, say, or any other media organization. It's now in the business of validating and manufacturing consent: not only reporting what people say, but how you should think.

Who's hand is upon the wheel, here?

Interesting. 

Of course, this raises the question: If Google has no problem making arbitrary, editorial choices in the future, why should we believe they're not doing that now?

Those interested in watching Arrington's interview with Meyer should go here

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Now

Google is already making the choices. They are "liberals" and they are not to be trusted. The "Brave New World" is here. The individual must become a "thinking" person in order to survive what is coming. But beware, you are a "savage" if you think for yourself. And you will be branded as such by the majority who simply LOVE the ignorant.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Since I discovered this

Since I discovered this site, I have been saying that Google and Yahoo, and probably others, have rigged their search programs to show results more favorable to the left.

This isn't new - they have been doing this all along...  I guess now they feel safe in admitting it, seeing as how the people are sufficiently brainwashed by now (as evidenced by Prez Hussein)...

Perhaps its time for a conservative Google

It seems like the battle lines in the new media are being drawn.  There are conservative and (stupid) liberal blogs.  We know that Yahoo and Google are unabashedly liberal.  This new revelation does not bode well for conservative bloggers....at least the small and growing bloggers.

I see a time where the internet is fully seperated into political factions with browsers, search engines, etc. that pertain to a certain political philosophy. In fact, I think I'm going to invent a new conservative search engine today while watching the NFL.  Of course, at first it will only have Newsbusters and Angry White Dude...lol.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

There is one, Jeff

www.scroogle.org

Actually, I don't know that it's conservative, but it is anti-Google.  That's good enough for me! 

Gee, thanks Mr. Finch.......

I've been looking for an alternate to google. I had deleted them but recently went back using the site because I couldn't find an acceptable aternative. They seem to fit the bill.

so..

are they planning on removing undesired results or just pushing them to the back of the bus?   When I use google I already have to use a ton of +/- and a judicious use of quotes to man-handle it into giving me the results I am looking for rather than the results it wants to give me.

"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama

Just checking

     I had to see if I could continue to Google Tiananmen Square in the US.  I figured their "editorial judgement" decision was only a matter of time considering the fact that Google didn't put up much (if any) fight against Chinese sensorship when they expanded their market there. 

Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration

http://www.despair.com/government.html

What are you using instead?

And are you getting significantly better results?

You could use:

http://www.google.co...

or select from

http://www.noodletoo...

http://en.wikipedia....

http://campusgw.libr...

http://www.unf.edu/l...

http://en.wikipedia....

 

Though there are plenty of other guides to draw on...

Or better yet personalize

Or better yet personalize your own search engine and use addictomatic.

http://addictomatic....

There are only 4 Major Internet Search Engines Giles

All the rest either index off these or are too small to waste time on.

Google

Yahoo

Live Search (Microsoft)

Ask.com

The first three effectively dislike each other and if a result is blocked or editor biased on one, it will not be on the others.

You don't need a worthless Wikipedia Page to know this.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Other research sources

 

http://en.wikipedia....

  • provides a long list of search engines that dig deeper into specific content areas. No single search engine covers the entire content available on the web, missing a great deal.
  • tools for searching by site formats and types - blogs, forums, etc.
  • offers metasearch tools which help counter biases and shortcomings of any one individual engine
  • lists who is using whose database

http://en.wikipedia....

  • lists public and academic databases. Much of what is in these
    is not available through the 'big4' and the researcher looking for the most thorough coverage of most any topic will find much more through them.
  • Public libraries offer community members access to a range of these. Often access can be arranged through CC and universities for more specialized databases.

And in my original post, I forgot to add free access databases like:

Giles still does not understand the Internet

Google searches blogs better than anyone and Google Scholar actually includes journal sources censored by other elitist pay services.

No wonder you waste so much time not finding what you are looking for.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

using GS

Yes, GS does cover some additional journal titles. However, at this time GS does not provide the criteria they use for selection - so it can be a potshot for standards of quality, scholarship, bias, authority, accuracy. http://scholar.googl... . ISI, for example, discusses their selection process at http://thomsonreuter...

If you are writing something important - a college paper, letter to your senator, editorial content - and have made a choice to include data or support material from a GS hit that isn't in the ISI list, for example, you would need to take extra effort to ascertain that the source and author are authoritative, unbiased, current, complete, and accurate.

Some basic guides for resource evaluation:


* http://www3.widener....
* http://www.rbs0.com/...
* http://library.usm.m...
* http://www.lib.berke...

Most local libraries, middle school and high school libraries, CC and college libraries provide access to various databases and whatever assistance may be needed to use them.

FYI: WAGs and insults does not make one, nor help others perceive them as, waggish.
Insults, like violence, are the last refuge of the incompetent. Sun Tzu

Just say Altavista

For what it is worth: I deleted “Google” from my bookmarks toolbar months ago.  Nowadays I use almost exclusively “Altavista” which works just as well as Google so far as I can tell.  I do not know if they employ bias, but so far as I am aware they are not known for it.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

 My favorite part was

 My favorite part was this: "...really no different to Fox News, say, or any other media organization."

It implies that the right (because everyone knows FOX News is the hard-right propaganda machine) does it...so the natural thing to do is to counter FOX's actions by doing the same, only from the left's perspective. The singling out FOX News by name wasn't very subtle. The subtle afterthought "or any other media organization" was only put in so they could claim they weren't singling out FOX News.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon," 1942

Back of the bus? Perhaps...

... but the fact remains that one really does need to do a great deal of +/- fanoogling to get to info that isn't MSM or Wiki oriented.  I think that katainkent is correct about the back of the bus, but quantity counts.  If you Google 'global warming,' you'll get lord only knows how many entries supporting the Hansen model/theory (I have a theory that my stubbed toe was caused by AGW).  This is because a ridiculous majority have fallen for this questionable science.

 

I can understand the percentage of MSM v skeptics.  What I can't accept is that Wiki tops the list on most topics.  Wiki is often useful but when it comes to politically charged topics like AGW or dreaded second hand smoke, Wiki deletes entries that refute their 'beliefs.'

 

Part of my work involves rooting out junk science -- in essence researching research (what an odd job).  This usually involves reading (gasp!) entire studies.  You'd be amazed at how many abstracts and conclusions are not supported by the actual data (the boring stuff) that's written in between the two.  With very rare exceptions, reporters regurgitate the press release that touts the conclusion rather than ferreting through the meat of the paper.  My guess?  They can't comprehend statistics, confidence intervals and relative risks.  Thus, if it bleeds, it leads.  Putatively scientific publications (JAMA, BMJ etc) select papers that scare the folks.

 

I've a colleague who wrote a cogent, thoroughly annotated entry refuting the idea that SHS is a carcinogen.  It was up less than 24 hours.  I submitted a comment regarding this topic that discussed publication bias.  Gone in 48.  I mean, geez guys, publication bias exists.  It's not limited to SHS.  If you look to Wiki for 'pub bias' you'll find this:  "Publication bias arises from the tendency for researchers, editors, and pharmaceutical companies"

 

There's no mention of government agendas (can we spell 'power/control addiction,' children?  Of course we can.)

 

I look to Wiki as a good source of truly basic information -- the chemical composition and elemental struction of say 'hydrogen.'  By the same token, Wiki does a good job with 'ethanol,' but Google, after featuring Wiki, goes right into political/belief mode.

 

I am now going to pour a bit of Irish ethanol into some coffee and call it a day.

 

anneftx

Last straw

I guess I'll have to get by without Google. Yahoo is just as good anyway.

Typical-These companies

Typical-These companies start off small, with a good idea-and then they figure later on that they're just sooooo big and important that no one can do without them and have to adhere to whatever they want.

Uh-uh.

The main reason I switched to Google was that I could opt to have 100 hits come up on one page.  Years ago I used to use Webcrawler for that reason, but then they cut it back down to 50 max so I switched.  I always found Yahoo and some of the others to be rather 'fussy' somehow.

Also, look at Netscape vs. IE.  Myself-I use Firefox now as I've had enough of both of the others.  Fortunately, so far, there are always other options and others in the comp world who are hungrier.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Don't trust Google

or Wikiped.  Anytime so called facts and data can be changed or manipulated this easily without a structured, rules based peer review process the source is suspect to say the least.  Just like in 1984 or Brave New World the bureacracy can manipulate the written word and destroy the history we are in trouble.  Just like in the Congress were statements can be revised and extended.

It may start out with biased searches but this will not be enough.

Google stock is taking a plunge as Yahoo leads the way down. 

No Representation in NorCal

Use Microsoft's Live Search to combat Google Bias

Microsoft hates Google and thus will do anythng it can to gain an advantage. They are also the only company that has the money to take them on.

Live Search (Microsoft)

Microsoft is not the enemy as the open source communists would have your believe.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Google says its still net neutral

Dismissed a story in Monday's edition The Wall Street Journal on the subject as "confused."

"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama