Jim Lehrer Defends Blagojevich: 'What's the Big Deal Here?'

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In today's "You've Got To Be Kidding Me" moment, PBS's Jim Lehrer actually defended the corrupt actions of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich Friday asking his guests, "What's the big deal here?"

I kid you not.

During his discussion with regulars Mark Shields and David Brooks on Friday's "News Hour" the subject of Blago arose, and Lehrer took what has to be considered an absurd position on this issue (video available here with relevant section at 6:00, partial transcript follows, h/t Mike Francesa via NB reader John F.):

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JIM LEHRER: I think we could keep this going here for several more minutes or longer, and there's not going to be an agreement, so let's go to something we agree on, David, the governor of Illinois. Express your shock.

DAVID BROOKS: I think he's a great guy. I'm just trying to stoke disagreement.

No, you know, it's like first is tragedy, then there's farce. I covered Chicago politics back in the day of the machine, and Fast Eddie Vrdolyak, and that was tragedy. That was really ruining a city.

This guy, he's like he's re-enacting a scene from the "Entourage" or from "The Godfather." He's like re-enacting. It's pathetic, basically, the way he's behaving, $500,000 for a Senate seat, when he knows people are likely to tape him? It's just -- it's just amazing. You know, you can -- well, anyway.

JIM LEHRER: Well, what about the point, though, that a lot of people are making, Mark, that the only thing Blagojevich did that's different than the normal course of human events is that he was gross about it and he said it -- he didn't say it publicly, but he said it -- there's trading that goes on all the time over Senate -- the appointment of senator -- of empty Senate seats.

MARK SHIELDS: There are.

JIM LEHRER: What's the big deal here?

Stop the tape. What's the big deal here? Are you kidding? As you'll see, he wasn't:

MARK SHIELDS: There have been some authentic giants appointed to the Senate in the 177 senators who've been appointed since we first began electing senators popularly in 1913. George Mitchell, a great senator.

JIM LEHRER: No, but I mean there's always been trade-offs. That's what I'm saying.

MARK SHIELDS: No, no, I mean, but there -- I mean, the product is the test.

JIM LEHRER: Right, OK.

MARK SHIELDS: And whether we come up with an Arthur Vandenberg, who was responsible for the Marshall Plan, Sam Ervin of the Ervin Committee, I mean, they were all appointed senators. So they aren't all stumblebums who were just some sort of political reward.

Jim, when governors sit down to appoint a senator, they don't say, "You know, which one of these guys is going to be Henry Clay? You know, should we get Webster or Clay, maybe a Calhoun?"

They want somebody who's not going to be under indictment or detox in six months, but at the same time there are political considerations. This guy took it -- governor of Illinois -- took it to a level or a depth so beyond in terms of craven, avariceness, greed, amorality. I mean, it truly was.

I'll tell you how dumb this guy is. Since the Congress of the United States began 219 years ago, there have been 11,991 members of the House of Representatives, of who he was one. He served three terms.

Every one has one thing in common: They were elected. That's the only way you can get to the United States House of Representatives.

In his discussions on tape, the FBI has, he's talking about whether they can get some money for an interim appointment to Congressman Rahm Emanuel's seat, who's become the chief of staff to President-elect Obama, I mean, not even knowing that nobody is appointed to the House of Representatives. I mean, their cravenness and their stupidity merged.

DAVID BROOKS: Yes, we respect high-level incompetence and corruption, but the incompetence...

JIM LEHRER: But you don't -- but that's what I'm actually essentially asking here, is that -- is that he just went over the line of something that is the way you do business.

Wow. He just went over the line. Can you imagine Lehrer taking this position if Blago and Obama were Republicans? Think Blago's actions would be just standard operational procedure a tad over the line? 

Yes, those were both rhetorical questions.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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  The big deal?!  The big

  The big deal?!  The big deal is that he was not horse trading for political purposes.  He was horse trading for personal gain.  Big difference.  And this is not taking into consideration that the selling of the senate seat was just the tip of the iceburg. 

What's the Big Deal

it is not as if Blago is a Republican!!!

The big deal is...

(apparently- since an arrest was made) that it's AGAINST THE FREAKIN' LAW!

In further news, Jim L. reporting on a recent Montgomery County rape victim's claim, "What's the big deal? She was drunk, had on this little dress...hell, she damned near asked for it."

What a scumbag.

The Difference

I was talking with my wife the other day, both us lifelong liberal dems, converted over the last 10 years, about the big difference between Rep corruption and Dem corruption.

 The difference is voters.  It seems to me and the last two elections seem to bear it out, is that Democrats don't care a bit about the morals of their elected officials as long as they win and do what they want them to do;  Sock the rich, hand outs to the great unwashed, and more gov't control of those who don't know better.

Anytime a Dem gets caught in a scandal the only reason they want the guy out is he is causing a distraction, mostly they just get the MSM to cover it up, move it along or say "Nobody cares about this, what they care about is 'running the country'"

If a Republican gets in to trouble, all of sudden all the liberal dems come out of the woodwork with their Faux outrage and want the guys head, NO, they want Repbulican voters to oust them and vote in corrupt Dems who will do the same things but go back to not caring about it.

Republican voters it seems, are more willing to oust a courrupt, morally bankrupt official and let a Dem take control to send a message.

(The Foley case, seems to be a perfecct illustration of the above).

 

Being forced to pay for PBS

Being forced to pay for PBS is bad enough, the leftists like Lehrer they keep on the network is beyond contempt in my opinion.

By the way, this line of thinking is seeming to be a talking point now with some of the talking heads...I heard part of msnbc early this morning, it was just partial so I may have missed something prior, but Alex Twit...oops, I mean Wit was saying something along the same exact lines to somebody she was talking too...I couldn't take it and left the room.

The obvious hypocrisy/bias with these people is outrageous...we all know what would be happening 24/7 with all of this 70 plus pages of possible charges/corruption ect. if this was anybody with an 'R' and if it looked like the tentacles would reach the Pres. Select.

...but hey, it's no biggie if it is anybody on the left.

I have news for these talking heads, they aren't going to be able to wish this away, or talk all the people all the time out of anything when it comes to the Chicago Machine...O especially.

It's only just begun.... 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

  The Chicago machine has

  The Chicago machine has been joined by the Clinton machine.  That kind of cosmic allignment should unleash the destructive power of the Imperial fleet.  The power of the dark forces should crush the Republican rebellion once and for all.

Hi MA... Well, one of the

Hi MA...

Well, one of the Clinon Machines former fella's may be in big doo-doo...good ol' Rahm seems to be in some hot-water.

Couldn't happen to a better despised guy by me anyway.

Don't think that came out right...but you get my drift.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

  Yep, he's real close to

  Yep, he's real close to becoming a 'distraction'.

Yes, good old Raum may have

Yes, good old Raum may have danced right into a big fat mess (the first of many to come in this administration). And he even hides behind his kids to avoid discussing the issue. Mid is right just above when he says that the Clinton gang has joined the Obama gang.

It's interesting to watch the MSM through this. Lehrer, whose public conscience seems to be been sold many years ago, thinks the Blad deal is much about nothing, apparently. Others may or may not follow. I think the MSM decision makers are still watching this deal carefully.

Some have criticized Fitz for showboating the announcement of Blad's criminal complaint. Maybe they are right. But the annoucement was so strong and loud, that the rest of the MSM couldn't hide it under the rug. So maybe that's a good result.

 

 

 

Lehr--geeze.  I

Lehr--geeze.  I know--what's the big deal about you, Jim?  Nothing I can see. 

People who have some integrity ought to have these media jobs.  I swear it isn't getting better, it's getting worse.

Come on G.E., NPR, NBC--I mean, damn.  Are you trying to increase viewership, readership or are you dedicated to losing more? 

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

But you don't -- but that's

But you don't -- but that's what I'm actually essentially asking here, is that -- is that he just went over the line of something that is the way you do business. 

Well, this is just typical of a PBS hack parasite.  He wouldn't know the first thing about business as he draws his ridiculously inflated salary from the taxpayer host through an unnecessary, antiquated government subsidy...yet he feels fit to assert how "you do business". 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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"it's like first is

"it's like first is tragedy, then there's farce"

No, David, it's not a "farce" - there you go again trying to dismiss this kind of stuff with what you think are wry jokes. You are truly a Republican made for PBS.

Hey Chris.... Exactly

Hey Chris....

Exactly right...I'm glad you mentioned the phony RINO Brooks...I meant too, but forgot as I was posting my wonderful words...lol.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt,I don't know who

bt,

I don't know who grates on me more - David Brooks or Charlie Cook. Cook's a hyena and I can't stand to listen to his giggling while "lampooning both parties but geez, always somehow coming down harder on the GOP (imagine that) and Brooks "wry" irreverency towards conservatives has worn itself out and finally exposed him as a blue blood elitist - the kind I thought had gone away with Henry Cabot Lodge and Nelson Rockefeller. I tend to lump them together for some reaon - maybe because both wear glasses and both try to act highbrow and above the fray - you know - all PBS-y.

interesting

One of the other commentators tries to correct this perception.  Who knows if it really sunk in.  Even if a little horse trading was 'business as usual' this went so recklessly beyond that.

I found them trying to paint Blago as being almost insane, interesting.  And the quote 'he just won't go away!' was also amusing.

And of course the absolute clearing of Obama.  His transparency being the 'coin of the realm'...  we'll see.

"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama

EX lib

Ex lib....you make a valid point about the differences between dems and repubs....someone wrote that it was a sad day in chicago when the gov got arrested...but another writer (Walter Wms, maybe) said the sadder day was the next day, when Blago showed up for work like it was business as usual....

 

the democratic status quo will tear this country down...it needs to be stopped....one step would be for blago to resign....and good next step would be for lehrer to next.....how can pbs employ this guy in good conscience after he says this?

What's the big

What's the big deal???

Good grief. The folks in media are getting dumber by the day. Or more accurately, they are being willfully ignorant to help cover for their liberal ideology and their love of anything connected to Obama.

President-Elect Oblivious

 

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Lets face it

to Democrats crooked politics is politics as usual.  I imaigine some of them honestly don't think it's a big deal because that is how they view normal.  It is only wrong when it is done by Republicans because they say that Republicans speak out against it.  Since Democrats don't think it's wrong they don't see any reason to make a fuss about it. 

What's the big

What's the big deal?!

 but that's what I'm actually essentially asking here, is that -- is
that he just went over the line of something that is the way you do
business

 

Lehrer is really, really stupid. 

Yeah ol' Jim is really,

Yeah ol' Jim is really, really stupid like a fox...he's a typical looney-leftist talking head with an agenda to fill.

Why can't we just move on...nothing to see or worry your silly little head about...why this is normal...after-all, this is Chicago, these are dems and we do not want this being connected to The Chosen One...no way...no how.

I have spoken.

We shall see Jim...now won't we.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Noel, the MSM is circling

Noel, the MSM is circling the wagons for Obama and they are worried.  Another guy being interviewed on FNC this afternoon was suggesting the same thing as in degrees of corruption, everyone is flawed just in degrees. It's the old everyone does it, so it's not bad routine.

The bottom line is this, Obama knew Blagojevich for years, Rahm Emanuel knew Blagojevich for years, they all knew Blagojevich and his weaknesses.  The issue here is Obama knew who was corrupt and CHOSE to do nothing for years.   Now we know why Palin irks the Dems so much, she unlike Obama did something about corruption.

 

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

Three Stooges?

Lehrer, Brooks and Shields - sounds like a remake of a Three Stooges movie to me.

BW222

Suddenly...

Somewhere in Alaska...Sarah Palin is laughing her ass off.

For weeks, Obama has been enjoying the love and honeymoon up until this past week. Now that his fellow Chicago Rat has been caught red handed, the Hope and Change (snicker!) is completely covered in mud.

2010: A GOP Hill

At least Blagojevich was

At least Blagojevich was straightforward about his dishonesty.  

A more cryptic politician might say, “The wife and I sure would like to buy that house, but the owner will only sell it to someone who also purchases the adjacent lot. Unfortunately, we cannot afford to purchase both.”  

Governor B would go for the more direct approach, “The wife and I sure would like to buy that house, and I expect you to make our dream come true.”

You've got to be kidding

You've got to be kidding me

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

Yup, the tongue is in

Yup, the tongue is in cheek.  But in my view, much of the political ‘horse-trading’ that goes on is just a more sophisticated form of corruption.

I just read Ken Connor over

I just read Ken Connor over on Townhall.com this is his take:

"Perhaps the ubiquity of political corruption is not the fault of shady politicians only.  After all, politicians are elected by the people.  And since ours is a "representative" government perhaps it's time we asked ourselves whether the character of our leaders is representative of the character of our nation"

I think Mr. Connor may be on to something. We can't expect anything different from our Representives if we don't have honor, virtue or high moral character. It seems corruption runs deep in both parties. I for one am skeptical of all of them.

You're on to

You're on to something…

Chicago, for example…. unless the winner of every single elective office is determined by the stuffed ballot box, the voters of Chicago continue to elect and re-elect politicians who are part of the machine.   

Where I live in northern CA, a politician is not elected without the support of the public employee unions.  And what have those political office-holders been doing?  They’ve been negotiating irresponsible, unsustainable contracts with the public employees.  Blame both the politicians and the voters who support the system.

Not Me Jim, You are the FOOL

In Reply -
The Big Deal Jimbo (et al.)  
Is not that it's too difficult to believe such an elitist persona may be encompassed in the "something owed for services rendered - payback" mentality (ask David Gregory, Mary Mitchell, & Chuck Todd).  What is incredible is that you and your cronies would be proponents to suggest and attempt to convince us, the United States electorate, that these actions by politians should (now) be accepted as appropriate!  Justification?  "They've always done it this way!"  Wilst you the collective (the MSM droids) thus imply that it is now the "acceptable norm."  Such a statement (though not surprising from your ilk) is one founded in: (a) incredible ignorance; or (b) sanctioned corruption.  Either way, it is the very exploitation of these dubious human weaknesses that our founders attempted - to the best of their consciousness - to expatriate from the political process.  Nice try - I'm not buying your tripe.  
So much for YOUR credibility.   

edits posted.

edits posted.

PBS/Lehrer

First, Brooks doesn't know what he's talking about when he mentions Vrdolyak and "the Machine".  Ilived there and have a better insight than him.  So we had all these appointed Senators who went on to distinguish themselves.  So what?  That alone proves the process is good?  Afterall, in Mr. Smith goes to Washington, Mr. Smith was appointed by the govenor who was in the back pocket of the Taylor Machine, which sounds alot like the Illinois "Outfit". Liberal media morons.  No analysis or in depth coverage of corrupt Democrats.  Surprise, Surprise.  And the PEOTUS isn't a Marxist either.