Colin Powell Bashes Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin

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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell will be featured on CNN's "GPS" program Sunday, and during the interview with Fareed Zakaria, Powell bashes Rush Limbaugh, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, and Joe the Plumber.

Powell also had negative things to say about the Republican Party in general.

As reported by CNN's Political Ticker Thursday (partial video of the interview embedded below the fold):

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In an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria for Sunday's "GPS" program, President Bush's former secretary of state said his party's attempt "to use polarization for political advantage" backfired last month.

"I think the party has to take a hard look at itself," Powell said in the interview, which was taped Wednesday. "There is nothing wrong with being conservative. There is nothing wrong with having socially conservative views — I don't object to that. But if the party wants to have a future in this country, it has to face some realities. In another 20 years, the majority in this country will be the minority."

Powell, who crossed party lines and endorsed President-elect Barack Obama just weeks before the election, said the GOP must see what is in the "hearts and minds" of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters "and not just try to influence them by… the principles and dogma."

"I think the party has to stop shouting at the world and at the country,"Powell said. "I think that the party has to take a hard look at itself, and I've talked to a number of leaders in recent weeks and they understand that." Powell, who says he still considers himself a Republican, said his party should also stop listening to conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

"Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh?" Powell asked. "Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?"

Fascinating.

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How to become a media

How to become a media fave:  Bash Republicans.

I have lost all respect for Powell.  I can't wait to hear Rush today...I wonder if Powell will be tuning in...I somehow doubt it.

The real mystery is why

The real mystery is why Powell ever called himself a Republican, and why he ever agreed to serve in the Bush administration to begin with.

When Zakaria asked him about "your party" Powell should have been honest and said "It's not my party."

And of course, his solution for the Republicans to do better is for them to be more like Democrats.

<sound of duct tape being ripped off roll>

 

Simple explanation: He's

Simple explanation: He's the classic opportunist.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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I rarely reply to the

I rarely reply to the comments on this blog, preferring instead to make them. However, yours is exactly the type of comment I was expecting to find so here goes. 

For years Colin Powell was the favorite tool of people who wanted to prove that they weren't racist, they'd vote for a black guy, it just had to be a "certain" type of black guy.( I'm not implying that YOU are one of them, btw, just elaborating) They'd talk about "all the respect" they had for Powell etc. Then suddenly, he votes against John McCain, a "republican in name only" who pissed off so much of his party that most had to hold their noses just to vote for him, and suddenly the love affairs over . In fact John McCain SUCKED so badly as a "conservative" that a WHOPPING TEN PERCENT of "conservatives" voted for Obama! Which just shows how moronic McCain was as a choice.  

Then Powell criticizes the party for "polarization" etc and suddenly the "love" is gone. Now, I don't agree with Powells comments, I in fact believe that your party suffered because you have become to much like the hell  bound liberals! Your party is chock full of FAKE CHRISTIANS who just really want to make a lot of money and care about little else. All these freaks teaching your kids the "joys" of taking it up the keyster, doesn't even move most of you as long as the DOW is up! ( If the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it)

I believe that if you actually WERE as Christian as you CLAIM we wouldn't be in half the mess we're in now. We wouldn't have nasty perverted men claiming that what they inflict on each other should be called "marriage" because a "Christian" nation wouldn't have entertained that satanic notion in the first place.

So while I disagree with the substance of Powells critique, I still respect him as the general that he was and the leader that he was. He still served this nation admirably when called upon and if you doubt that he could have made Bush look INFINITELY more corrupt than he did upon leaving, well, Richard Clarke ring a bell? What, if those or similar criticisms had come from COLIN POWELL what would there be of the Bush "legacy" then? Sure he has an ax to grind, has it ever occurred to you how Bush traded on Powells gravitas in order to convince the world that they KNEW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Saddam had WMD? Especially since every singly piece of intelligence that leaned that way, contained caveats NOT RELAYED to the American people by Bush and subsequently Powell? 

Now he tells you that you can't keep listening to Rush because he believes that to be where you went wrong. While I disagree with that, I certainly respect his right to posit the thought. But you my friend have lost "ALL RESPECT" for Powell because you disagree with his assessments, makes one wonder what your "respect" was WORTH in the first place. Methinks, not much. 

 "He still served this

 "He still served this nation admirably when called upon and if you doubt
that he could have made Bush look INFINITELY more corrupt than he did
upon leaving, well, Richard Clarke ring a bell?"

Plame-Gate ring a bell? I think he did a fine job of making the Bush admin look corrupt as he sat on the knowledge that it was Armitage who revealed Plame's name as folks in the media were calling for his impeachment, Cheney's head, and the frog-marching of Rove and Libby.

Yeah, that Powell....what a swell guy. 

"I believe that if you actually WERE as Christian as you CLAIM we
wouldn't be in half the mess we're in now. We wouldn't have nasty
perverted men claiming that what they inflict on each other should be
called "marriage" because a "Christian" nation wouldn't have
entertained that satanic notion in the first place."

I think you have us confused with Iran. But maybe you're right...if only there were fewer gays, the Big 3 would be profitable, terrorism would vanish, housing prices would be on the rise, as would the Dow, and everyone would have a job. Damn gays.

Moron, lol.

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."

All I'm sayin' is that you

All I'm sayin' is that you people are no different than the liberals over at the DAILY KOS. When one of their own doesn't walk in LOCK STEP or criticizes their actions they become the DEVIL. And considering Powell's former stature amongst yourselves, or at least his PROFESSED stature amongst yourselves, you're actually a little worse than the Kos Kids for demonizing him now! They don't HAVE anyone of his stature to demolish! LOL. I think you've made my point quite nicely. You expect him to pull the Administration's fat out of the fire after what they did to him? You equate the non-action of Powell, with the affirmatively damaging action of Richard Clarke who wrote a book and went on every chat show elaborating on precisely how much Bush sucked?  You reason like a liberal too. 

you have no credibility

to make the moronic statements you've made, then to claim "all (you're) sayin'..."

 

Well... that's just ridiculous.

Powell doesn't have to walk in some idiotic "lock step", but he sure as h*ll has been a political opportunist.

No... nobody is "reason(ing) like a liberal".  Tolerating liberal tripe from people like you?  Yes. 

Oh, back off

"And considering Powell's former stature amongst yourselves," 

 For such a "moderate" and "fair" person, you sure made a blanket statement. I'm one of "those" here and you will never find one statement by me over-praising Colin Powell's political beliefs. Maybe a few here were under the illusion that Powell was a conservative and held him up as a conservative hero, but that hardly backs up your generalizations and wholesale attack on the rest of us. I never did think Powell was a conservative and never supported him as a potential GOP candidate - this, by the way, had nothing to do with his racial background. Where do you come off accusing us of holding him up as a paragon of conservatism for the simple reason he is African American.

Acts...I've criticized

Acts...

I've criticized Powell here and there since I have been on NBs which is quite awhile now...

btw..whenever the msm loves someone like Powell, McC..it is for a reason...adn it isn't for the real conservatives...he is just another RINO... for his own gain....period.

btw...why do you stay here when all you do is whine and complain, compare us to the leftist loons at the sites you mention...eh?

Unless of course you are nothing but a troll, which as far as I am concerned you are, I've read enough of your BS to draw that conclusion too.

Troll on...

<edit> Acts...I feel I probably should apologize for calling you a troll...but you also shouldn't say "all you people" ect ect...you are always so black and white, plus seem always to be full of anger...I wished you would realize that too...plus before you make blanket statements like you do about us posters here, it would do you well to know what we feel regarding an issue or person before speaking for us as a whole...know what I mean? 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Nice, Keith

"you people"?

Bawahahaah!

I never expected anything of Colin Powell.  He was over his head in Vietnam, he was over his head afterward (highest command he ever held was that of a brigade).....he was a political general who's always swung the way of the blowing wind.

"You people", however....was just over the top...gave yourself away there fella, LOL.

 

Corrections

Hey blondie...

 

<----DU is that way.

 

Just sayin... 

 

Secondly you falsely claimed that:

 " He was over his head in Vietnam, he was over his head afterward (highest command he ever held was that of a brigade)"

 

Here...let me help you with some facts:

 

In 1986, he took over the command of V Corps in Frankfurt, Germany, from Robert Lewis "Sam" Wetzel. In 1989, prior to being named Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command headquartered at Fort McPherson, Georgia

 

Incase you are sitting there staring at the screen slack jawed trying to figure that one out...V Corps...and Forces Command are also places where he commanded...and with Stars on his collar points not Eagles. 

 

Understandable that you didn't know this.  Most people that get their so called information from Kos/DU/Huffpo are never in command of the truth.

 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

stars on his collar or in his eyes

check your dates .. it was Reagan who nominated him for his stars (only the president can do so) .. he served in germany, georgia, and jcs in peacetime .. political (by a republican administration) appointments .. what did he get from the clinton administration ? .. but he was SoS in the Bush 43 admin. ... then, when the going got tough, he stabbed them .. and mccain... in the back

never look a gift skunk in the tail

The Devil?  Hardly!  In

The Devil?  Hardly!  In all his hubris, Powell could only dream of being that significant.  He's always been just a career flack, a mouthpiece, polite window dressing.  Basically, he looks and sounds dignified in a uniform, so he's been granted undue credibility.  But I don't know too many on this site who were fooled by his act.  We know a classless opportunist when we see one.  That's all.   

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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Don't try to push this off

Don't try to push this off on some nameless "they" who supposedly wanted to prove that they weren't racist. As for the "it just had to be a "certain" type of black guy, uh, yeah, it had to be a black guy who believed in conservative principles, which Powell supposedly did. 

If anyone was deceptive, it was Powell.  It became clear, a little at a time, that he was not really conservative, e.g. his support for "affirmative action."  And finally, in his endorsement statement for Obama, he said of the Republican party that I have some concerns about the direction that the Party has taken in recent years. It has moved more to the Right than I would like to see it...

In other words, he was a Republican as long as they weren't much different from Democrats.

And this

I believe that if you actually WERE as Christian as you CLAIM we
wouldn't be in half the mess we're in now. We wouldn't have nasty
perverted men claiming that what they inflict on each other should be
called "marriage" because a "Christian" nation wouldn't have
entertained that satanic notion in the first place.

What the heck does that have to do with anything????????And BTW, Republicans are not the party pushing same-sex "marriage." 

Firstly madam, I NEVER

Firstly madam, I NEVER supported Colin Powell! His pro-CHOICE filth was WIDELY known before Bush the elder elevated him to SOD! To me one baby killer was pretty much the same as another! BUT nooooo you people fell in love with him. He was "esteemed" he was "respected". People like myself who pointed out that his religion was FAKE with him currently advocating the slaughter of babies, were relegated to the kook pile. But as long as he served as a token you could get behind while you IGNORED his penchant for the slaughter of innocents, you were FINE! So be fine NOW that he tells you what pieces of rubbish you are. Be fine now that he exposes the "code words" that he believes you used in lieu of some darker meaning and SMILE. Because it was people like you that called this RINO "family" in the first place!

Firstly madam, I NEVER

Firstly madam, I NEVER supported Colin Powell!

Never said you did.

you people fell in love with him.

Who are "you people"?  You have no idea who I have or haven't fallen in love with. 

The rest of your comment is simply a rant, so I will ignore it.

Maybe you should just go back to your original plan of "making" comments instead of replying, because it's obvious you have no interest in, or skill at, having a "discussion."

 

"you people".

You know, the people now being critical of Powell. 

THOSE ... "you people".  


All y'all are the real problem.  Cuz you're just like them there liberals.

 

Don'tchasee??

 

ugh...

hey acts

it was a beautiful day here in Vista, how was it in the Hollywood area?     

----- Radical  Liberal

Well said, Acts...

Don't be surprised by the venom and blinkered ignorance of some of the people who make comments on this site.  It's a form of political masturbation.  They love to call people names, call them "trolls", it's how they get off.  You're exactly right about one thing:  all of these "commenters" expect blind ideological purity.  It has always been clear that General Powell is a moderate Republican.  His comments about Limbaugh and Palin were quite perceptive and entirely accurate. So were yours.

 

Colemine... You are a

Colemine...

You are a different story...your post is cute by half...if that.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT

10 points! Cute by half is being nice! Go figure.... libs!!! Notice how they throw sex into it? Figures...

"Bri is with Jesus now, we will meet again, just not right now. We love you Bri!"

Seems to me that you're the

Seems to me that you're the one engaging in political masturbation.  Here's a clue...nobody else gets off on what you have to write.  But feel free to delude yourself into thinking that you matter.  And pay no attention to the laughter in the background.  No, really, we're laughing with you.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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Sounds like you are

Sounds like you are accusing us of doing exactly what you are doing in your post.

 

 

Projection has been turned

Projection has been turned into an art form by the mouth breathing ritalin chewers that inhabit DU and Kos. 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

They love to call people

They love to call people names, call them "trolls", it's how they get off - No we recognize the qualities of  a troll and as the saying goes "If the shoe fits, wear it"  The shoe seems to be fitting you quite nicely with Acts coming in a close second.  Powell is not a Republican, no Republican would vote for Obama.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

These ar comments from a squishy spined liberal...

Not from a Republican. All respect is lost for this man. Does he even LISTEN to the show?

"I need more cowbell!" SNL

Well said JTP

But there was a lot more money in being Republican in the 1980's.

What a shame--

-- a closet liberal. Quite like La Raza etal, loyal to his skin color and not to America.

Powell....

This man is where he is today because of the Republicans he now bashes.

Contrary to what Powell says....

RINOs are the problem with the Republican Party, not conservatives.

 I can't believe at one point I actually wanted him to run for POTUS

Luke 23:34

PALIN/Jindal '12

Past vs. Future

I have to question whether Colin Powell was ever a Republican. Obviously, his decision to endorse The One makes many question it. Powell represents the failures of the Bush41 and Bush43 administrations and the failed policies of neocons and "compassionate conservatives" that helped get us into the mess we are. Hopefully Powell types will soon be ghosts from the past.

True conservatives like Palin, Jindal, DeMint, Sessions, etc. represent the the future of the party. Hopefully Americans will remember Sarah Palin long after Colin Who.

I can hardly wait for that idiot to post the phoney Palin resume. 

BW222

I can hardly wait for that

I can hardly wait for that idiot to post the phoney Palin resume.

Don't worry, Pop Tech will oblige. He hates Palin so much it makes me wonder if he even likes women.  :  )

Definitely All-Woman

You may be right about Popular Tech not liking women. Sarah Palin is definitely all-woman; no question about that.

BW222

I too have lost respect for

I too have lost respect for Powell. I would have voted for him in a second before he endorsed BO. I respect the service that he gave to the country but this turn coat now shows where his loayalties are.

Maybe Powell read Palin's Resume?

Sarah Palin

Age: 44

Religion:
- Pentecostal

Education:
- Attended, Hawaii Pacific University, 1982
- Attended, North Idaho College, 1983-1984
- Attended, University of Idaho, 1984-1985
- Attended, Matanuska-Susitna College, 1985
- B.S. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member, Wasilla City Council, Alaska, 1992-1996
- Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 7,028) (Votes: 909)
- Failed Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002
- Resigned, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004
- Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (1+1/2 years) (pop: 670,053)

Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989
- Director, Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc., 2003-2007

There is nothing phony about it. But Powell is wrong about Rush Limbaugh and conservatives. As for women, I most certainly do not hate them, I just don't play identity politics.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

"There is nothing phony

"There is nothing phony about it."

There's also nothing about it that disqualifies her, whether one likes her or not. Have Obama, McCain, or Biden governed a state for 2 weeks, let alone 2 years? No. Either of the three have an economics degree? No. But that's only an issue if Sarah doesn't have one.

I'd rather have a Journalism graduate who believes and understands Conservatism than an Economics graduate who believes in big government Socialism....or worse....2 lawyers that believe in it, like we'll have on Jan. 20, 2009.

For the record, I hope Palin isn't our candidate in 2012. I hope we can do better. She has a little too much of a populist tilt for me. But some of the attacks on her are just plain stupid. You say you don't play identity politics, but your intellectual dishonesty implies otherwise. 

More like Intellectual Honesty

I may be one of the few intellectually honest ones here since I make my decisions based on careful analysis not emotions or identity politics. I don't feel guilty or the need to appoint someone because of their gender or race like Palin and Obama. Palin is not the right wing messiah that people pretend she is.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

"Palin is not the right wing

"Palin is not the right wing messiah that people pretend she is." 

 

Yet she is still more qualified to be in the national political spotlight than you are. 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Wow - good argument

I am actually more educated than Palin.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Political Messiahs

The whole point of Governor Palin is that she is not a 'Messiah'.  Rather she is a citizen politician in a great American tradition.  The very idea of a political Messiah is a dangerous idea, redolent of those political religions (described by Eric Voegelin), which plagued Europe in the last century.  If you want meaning, hope and salvation in your life, talk to the preacher, not the mayor.

IQ Under 50

Sarah Palin really seems to infuriate:

  • Liberals who realize that she can truly be a game changer
  • Hard-core womens' libbers who can't stand the fact that she is pro-life, chose not to abort Trig and is physically beautiful
  • So-called "conservatives" with IQs under 50 like Popular Tech - the geek part is believable; the popular part isn't

I'd like to see Popular Tech's resume - 9th grade drop out; 3rd shift clean up at McDonalds.

BW222

IQ way over 50

Well I am not a dropout with a degree in Computer Science and I run my own business. I am not a so called conservative but a fiscally conservative libertarian.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

hahahahahah

she changed the game alright!  how frikin funny.  "democrats who are scared she can become a game changer"....that really got me.  what kool-aid are you drinking?  the woman bombed.  there is no argument about that.  i think she would make a wonderful real estate agent up there in alaska, but second most powerful person in america?  no thank you.  the american people have spoken and it has been decided.  get over it. 

god i hope palin runs in 2112 so we can keep ragging on her dumb ass. 

Common PT...

I think we all have this ad memorized by now, give it a break dude! You hate Palin, we get it, enough already! Pick and choose all you want about time served, votes, la la la la la! Takin' up space dude! She has more executive experience than all the others in the election combined! Period! The election is over and you won,  fine!!! Stop with the Palin hatin', it's getting weird, ok? We get it, you hate her, ok, we get it, move on. Geez, it's gettin' old dude! Unless that's what you are pushing...Are you scared of her or do you lust after her or just plain hate her! Chill dude, please! Your starting to look like an ad for the anti-Palin crowd. Gettin' old man! I really respect your links about bailouts and global "change" but this constant Palin crap is getting old. Get over it , she lost and the messiah won so it's over with, for now. No more PDS for a while, OK? Thank you.

 

Gary

"Bri is with Jesus now, we will meet again, just not right now. We love you Bri!"

I don't hate Palin (again)

Again I believe she is unqualified to by POTUS, not the best choice the GOP has, not a true Fiscal Conservative (more of a conservative populist) and WAYYYYYYY overhyped as the right-wing Messiah.

She has very limited executive experience and many other GOP candidates had much more executive experience than her.

BTW my initial post was by request.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Powell and his real color, Democrat that is

I’ve never gotten over Colin Powell letting Scooter Liddy hang when he knew the whole story about the Plame affair, no pun intended. He knew how it started; who leaked her alleged covert CIA identity and that Libby had no involvement other than special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s relentless effort to hang someone in the Bush administration. Given Mr. Powell’s recent remarks about Republicans and the Republican Party you would think he is Christopher Buckley’s Godfather.

Obama lied to Joe the Plumber - why not bash Obama

Obama lied to Joe the Plumber - why not bash Obama?

This bit here is just staring us in the face - can we not see? Right off the top, Obama just out and out lied to Joe. In that infamous moment caught on tape, Obama said to Joe: 

 "we haven't given a break to folks who make less." 

The discussion was on tax issues, breaks, etc., during the Bush administration, and Obama was comparing poorer and middle income folks to wealthier folks (like himself) and attacking the higher end tax breaks.

Problem? It isn't true. For the record, the Bush administration, with congress, did in fact give poorer and middle class working folks significant tax breaks; all middle and lower tax rates were lowered, with the 15% lower bracket being cut to 10% (a 50% reduction); child tax credit was doubled; and the marriage penalty tax trap was fixed - and it helped a ton. They extended the AMT adjustment each and every year. In 2001 they received a tax rebate, pushed by the Democrats - eventually Bush gave in and gave them most of what they wanted there. In 2008, for goodness sakes, once again, they are given a tax rebate, a larger one, as part of a stimulus package. Many middle class workers invest in the equity markets and did in fact benefit from lower capital gains tax and lower dividend tax rates.

Main street [middle class] workers; those making much less than "rich folks like Obama" received significant reductions in tax liability (Breaks) - during these years. (;~/ gary

Wait wait wait... What the

Wait wait wait... What the GOP needs to do is cater more to minority groups?  I thought the goal was to be post-racial and treat Americans as a whole and stop identifying us as groups united by race or some other single common factor.  I suppose the real problem is that appealing to logic rather than emotion hasn't worked this time around.  I'd personally prefer that politicians stop talking about race and throwing out empty tag lines.  Here's what they need to do: tell us what you will do, how you will do it, and any effects the plan might have.  A little transparency would go a long way.

its not that the gop needs

its not that the gop needs to 'cater' to more minority groups, its that they need to stop being rascist bigots.  accomplishing that new paradigm would be much easier if people would stop listening to rascist bigots like limbaugh.  powell is trying to help you guys, you should listen. 

 

I'd like some examples that

I'd like some examples that the GOP is the party of "racist bigots."  I won't argue that there's those in the party who would fit this category, but what this story highlights is a racist bigot who happens to be a democrat.  Limbaugh may be a self-absorbed asshole, but his controversial remarks don't really show him to be racist.  Political correctness is a creation of the left, so don't expect those of us on the right to be subjected to the same set of stupid rules.

→ Well, ThatDude

There was Strom Thurmond, who split off a Dixiecrat party from the Dems back in the 40's to run on the Segregationist ticket.  He went on to pollute the Republican Party6 for about 50 years afterward.

His 78 yr old half-black daughter was exposed after he died, having never been publicly recognized by the Senator.  IMHO he died 50 years too late.

So, beyond Democrat interlopers polluting the Republicans, I guess there's not much.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I think you're both falling

I think you're both falling into a trap by partially accepting this troll's false premise.  Sure there are racist Republicans...but there are plenty of racist Democrats.  The presence of individual racists within one Party or the other does not constitute a Party's tacit endorsement of racism...it's completely beside the point.  However, the left has capitalized on an erroneous perception that because the Republican Party has not appealed to specific minority groups per se (instead choosing to treat individuals as individuals and not as members of subcategories), Republicans stand in opposition to African-Americans, Hispanics, women, gays, etc.  Unfortunately, the common Republican response is to get defensive, and to answer baseless charges with anecdotal examples suggesting otherwise.  This response tends to reinforce the bogus stereotype that Republicans are, on the whole, racist...or at least sufficiently defensive about the matter as to suggest self-doubt.  Despite transparent claims to the contrary, leftist media and trolls like "dr_devil_dog" are not interested in helping the Republican Party become "relevant" again.  They're interested in planting the seeds of doubt amongst conservatives that their ideas are outdated.  And they use the self-serving complaints of RINO nonentities like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Christopher Shays, Lincoln Chafee, John McCain, Colin Powell and Scott McClellan as examples of advice we should be listening to in order to be competitive again.  They're not interested in the Republican Party being competitive with the Democrats...they want their bogus ideology to win out.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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→ Not me

All I did was throw an old tµ®d back to him.

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When you've got a perfectly

When you've got a perfectly good hammer like Robert Byrd to hit them over the head with, why indulge them by singling out Thurmond?

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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→ Funny you should ask

But Robert KKK Byrd never claimed to be a Republican.

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Exactly my point.  Some

Exactly my point.  Some troll injects the poisonous "Republicans are racist bigots" stereotype into the discussion, and the response is to highlight the exception that disproves the rule?  As I see it, that's going on the defensive, allowing the troll to gain some ground by thinking his argument has even the slightest hint of credibility.  The premise was b***s*** on its face...he made the claim, it's up to him to back it up.  You don't have to indulge him by anecdotally serving up a specific Republican who could be seen to reinforce his knowingly dishonest argument.  He can act morally superior because you've fished him out an example of a "racist Republican".  Meanwhile, the party he advocates for is populated with the likes of Robert Byrd...but he thinks he's gained ground because your Strom Thurmond reference suggests that racists are tolerated by the Party, and by extension, so is racism.  Jack Kemp fell for that same stunt when he debated Al Gore.   

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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fitz....Exactly

fitz....

Exactly right.

I saw this obvious troll's post earlier, decided go ignore him, you said all friend...you said it all...glad you did too.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Powell should attack the left wing radical radio hosts..

Powell should  be attacking the left wing radical radio hosts..

Take AM radio host Mike Malloy, who just a couple of months ago, called for US pilots, including specifically then Senator and Presidential candidate John McCain, who drop bombs, to be charged as war criminals, and hanged.

Where's Powell on that?  

If he did that the MSM

If he did that the MSM would ignore him and he wouldn't be getting the attention he craves.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

Except no one listens to

Except no one listens to Malloy.

balboa..

Yes he has a small audience -- but then again - he was invited onto Hardball recently - again. And Malloy is only one. The left wing radicals, combined wtih the loud wackos (like Olberdog - "Democracy Today, etc.)" have a very large audience. gary

Exactly Gary - the most annoying thing about RINO's

is they save all their criticisms for Republicans.  They are weak people who just want media approval.  There are a long list of liberals that Powell should be criticizing you've named a few - I'll name some more

Rosie O'Donnel, Rachel Maddow, Carville, Joy Beher, Shawn Penn, Danny Glover, Ludicrous, Barny Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashel, Rom Emanuel and the list goes on and on.  (My name spellings are guesses)

It's clear that Powell is just not really a Republican. 

 

Gary, did you actually hear

Gary, did you actually hear or read a transcript of Malloy calling for McCain and the pilots to be hanged?

If he said it, he shouldn't be on the air.

Jer

jer

here's my notes from 10/13/08.... Perhaps it's a bit of a stretch - but he made enough of a suggestion to raise the hair on the back of the neck. Next thing you know, he's on some cable news show  (Hardball??). Do they ever invite Rush on? I did pass it on to someone in the McCain camp - for the Secret Service's ears. I doubt it still plays from those links - no time to check right now. later (;~. gary

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I only caught a moment of it - nasty, disgusting. On Mike Malloy's AM radio show. It's 1150 here in CA. I flipped over the station oh, between 6:50 and 7:00 PM PST time last Thursday night, Oct 9th.

Looks like the podcast is (was) available on his web site (link below) - small $9.99 fee for a months worth of crap.

The Mike Malloy Show - Speaking Truth to Power  

Well, then again - I clicked on the download link - ignored the log in request - and wa la, it took a minute - but looks like I didn't have to be a member, or pay - what an idiot this commie is.

http://novamnetwork.com/podcasts/malloy/free/MalloyShow-(09-10-2008)b-lo.mp3

Note: the date this played was 10/09/08 - the date that is on the clip is 9/10/08 I don't know if they got the date wrong - or perhaps they replayed the show from the earlier date last week?

..in the area of 34 minutes into the audio to the break at 36:43

He doing a rant - about all he does - on US pilots, etc  - the target of course was John McCain (I'm just going to spit out the words) fighter pilots, bombing cities and civilians from 30,000 ft, murders, despicable scum, war criminals .."do you know about the Nuremberg Trials" .. we hanged people for those crimes.. and as far as McCain.. cowardly..  the most criminal act ..  not the act of a hero ... the act of an insane ..sick .. murderous .. beast ...

The segue to McCain was quick - perhaps carefully constructed - but my take is that he compared  McCain to those we hang  -and/or at least all the rest of the military that flies bombing missions. 

Other bits, "McCain lives with his snake-eyed old lady,

It was rapid fire - I almost heaved.

Thanks, Gary...I listened

Thanks, Gary...I listened to Molloy's demented, profoundly offensive rant, and while he didn't explicitly call for anyone's execution, his words were still despicable.  If it were my call, he would be terminated immediately.

Presumably, this was the unedited track without the AM delay.  Too bad the entire tirade wasn't bleeped along with the profanity when originally aired.

Regrettably, I've heard some pretty sick stuff from the righty talkers, too.

Jer

 

Name some names

"Regrettably, I've heard some pretty sick stuff from the righty talkers, too."

Really? Who? What was the assumably equally "sick stuff"? Are these "righty talkers" still on the air?

I didn't say "equally"

I didn't say "equally" sick, and, furthermore, analyzing comparative examples would be highly subjective. So, do we really need to get into an "oh yeah, well your guy is worse" contest? I couldn't have been any stronger in my denouncement of Molloy, so I'm prepared to leave it at that. 

But, if you're just dying to hear names, I'll try to accomodate you. 

Jer

edit:  Is "denouncement" a word?  Maybe I better make that "denunciation".

Principles and politics

Powell confuses Republicans with conservatives. Powell is a Republican. Rush is a conservative. But that's the difference between a political partisan and a political philosophy. A partisan believes that a party should win elections, and therefore should appeal to the most people. A philosophy is based on principles, whether they're popular or not.

Powell is a Republican who not only voted for Obama, but who endorsed him over the Republican candidate.

  • But then, that proves that Powell's vote is based, not on the election of Republicans in general, but only on candidates who reflect Powell's point of view.
  • And while that is certainly Powell's right, how does that make him any different than Rush? Both of them are voting for candidates who most closely reflect their individual views, which is how it's supposed to be.
  • Powell is trying to tear Rush down for doing exactly what he's doing himself.

So why is Rush bad, while Powell is noble? This is just rhetoric, and empty rhetoric at that. Powell is pounding the table for his own point of view. Rush is cast as a villain because ... he doesn't agree with Powell. Powell self-righteously is stamping his feet because the group isn't going where he wants to go.

I guess Powell's bureaucratic, turf-fighting skills are showing through, aren't they?

Up yours, Powell

As a Veteran I know I have the right to say you are a traitor to the uniform and to this great country. You are nothing more that a "Headline Hog" with your nose buried up Obama's rectal orifice.

In a matter of a few years you have managed to piss away any credibility you might have once had.

Some folks will do anything

Some folks will do anything for attention! Mr. Powell, the liberal media is not your friend. That's what John McCain found out. For years he worked for their attentions and look what it got him and our party. Why don't you stop pretending to be a Republican and announce that you are really a Democrat.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

polarizing comments

because accusing people of clinging to guns and religion has such a uniting effect? And what exactly are the "lesser insticts" that Mr. Limbaugh is appealing to?

ugh, so dissapointed in this man.

"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama

"hearts and minds" of

"hearts and minds" of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters "and not just try to influence them by… the principles and dogma."

Sorry that we have principles Colin and even sorrier that we stand by those principles.  Maybe we should start pandering to every special interest group like the RINOs and Democrats do?  Nah, we like to treat all people equally and people like Rush and Sarah know that.  Too bad you don't.  Stay with the Democrats, it's where you belong. 

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

Powell has gotten to the

Powell has gotten to the point to where if he bashes you, it's a badge of honor.

He's wants to continue to be invited to all the cocktail parties put on by liberals.

I believe some Conservative somewhere didn't give him what he wanted and now he's ticked off, acting just like a little brat. 

He can consider himself anything he wants to, but he needs to stay away from anything Conservative Republican.  Powell, just take the silver liberals have given you and walk away.  You're finished.  Now nobody will trust you.

Powell has got one thing

Powell has got one thing right:

" In another 20 years, the majority in this country will be the minority."

I see this when I drive by section eight housing a couple times a month, mothers with six or eight children with not an adult male in sight (they are off busy screwing some other mother). These are the Obama voters and the future of our soon to be socialist country. When America is gone, where will people go to grab the American dream?

D

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Powell Was Never a Republican

I never believed he was a Republican ever since he spoke at the Convention a number of years ago. As I recall, he basically bashed Republicans for being racists. Now if I was going to join a party and I actually thought it was against my race, why would I join it? I always thought he was a Democrat plant. And I don't believe he listens to Rush either.

Powell makes McCain look

Powell makes McCain look like a Conservative!

Lost All Respect As Well

I used to give Powell the benefit of the doubt. Michael Reagan knows him and said that he was just upset over how the Republicans treated him several years back. After how he's been the past few weeks, I'd have to say, I've lost all respect for him now. He's just a Democrat tool at this point.

I think it's time we came

I think it's time we came to terms with a simple fact: Colin Powell is nothing more than a mediocre bureaucrat who found himself promoted to levels far above his competence.  He is simply the beneficiary of an erroneous, hyper-defensive Party policy of engaging in identity politics.  This market segmentation approach to personnel decisions is lazy, condescending and ultimately fruitless.  Do we want "minorities" in the Republican Party?  Absolutely!  But not at the cost of abandoning the principles the Party was founded on.  In order to attract African-Americans to join the Party (and to stay there), we must win them over to our ideas (generally, "minority" Republicans have joined the Party because they share our ideology)...not pander to them by elevating some ordinary paper pusher because he's "the right color".  Powell is a smug self-promoter who has wedged himself into a protected position as an authority.  He may believe that he still carries heavy influence within the Republican Party, but he doesn't.  He's a joke.  If Barack Obama is an Empty Suit, Powell is an Empty Uniform. 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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Who is the "we" he is

Who is the "we" he is referring to?  He is NOT a Republican. 

 

I have been a huge fan of C. Powell.  I would have voted for him for President, even though there are some issues I didn't agree with him on 100%.  I thought him a great man.

 

His endorsement of Obama bothered me a little.  I just don't think a Republican should ever endorse a Democrat.  However I believed it to be a normal thing for a black person to want another black person to reach the highest office.  Rush, the guy his attacked in a chicken $hit way called in correctly.  It was about race.

 

What ended by admiration of C. Powell were the gratuitious attacks on Alito and Roberts and his other attacks on  Republicans and their views during his endorsement of Obama.  No "Republican" would do that.  No one I could admire would do that.

 

I don't care that he doesn't agree with Rush.  I don't agree with Rush all the time.  But this attack could have been handled much better.   To me Rush and conservative talk radio exist because Republicans have no where else to turn to for news and commentary.  Harry Smith, K. Couric, B Williams, Schieffer, Russert, Gregory,  Stepeanopolis (sp), 60 minutes, CNN, MSNBC, Gibson, Lauer, Viera, Roberts, Blitzer,Time, NY & LA Times, NPR, PBS, WaPo, Newsweek, the Trib Papers are as far left as Rush is far right. 

 

He could just as easily have said, "it is time for the main stream media to seek compliance with their own ethical standards and report the news in an impartial professional manner.  To do so would allow me and my fellow Republicans to turn off the conservative far right talk radio" and stop the rise of liberal talk radio.

 

The said truth is that Powell is not a Republican.   I really regret saying this but it is time for him to move on and change the "R" to a "D" and be honest with us and himself. 

Colin my man, nobody on our

Colin my man, nobody on our side of the fence gives a rats a$$ what your opinion is. After watching you torpedo your boss in the Plame fiasco we know exactly what your net worth is .... and its lower than the IQ level of plant life.

"...these kinds of

"...these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?"

"better instincts": liberalism and an anything goes philosophy.

It's time to move over to the party where you are comfortable, General. Comments like this don't make you a "dignified statesman" - they just make you look self-serving - which is probably what you were all along.

Bush booted this DEMOCRAT

Just how bad was colon spilling his views behind closed doors?

 


FREEDOM

DUH...Colin is a (D)

 

Powell is the type of

Powell is the type of Officer the Armed forces have been working to root out of the system for the past 20 years.  He is a political Officer not a Military Officer.  He did what ever it took to jump up the ladders in the military heirarchy, and it showed.  Now he is simply changing ladders.

 

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you"

Nice plan guys! I think

Nice plan guys!

I think it is more than obvious that Powell and Osama...I mean Obama(I "mis-spoke") planned this party jump and Powell's attack on Palin and the Rep. party. They timed it to come out close to election day to try and swing some minority conservatives to the dark side! (no pun intended).  As far as Rush Limbaugh goes, shame on him! everyone in America knows that only liberals and minorities can speak their mind!

Honest mistake

"I think it is more than obvious that Powell and Osama...I mean Obama"

 After all, the only difference between Obama and Osama is a little bs.

I can only conclude that Powell

Has not listened to Rush Limbaugh. Nor has he, apparently, listened to Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Flagler, William Ayers,and others associated with Obama.

 BTW, Pusillanimous Powell, Limbaugh is not a spokesperson for the GOP. He is a spokesman for conservativism.

Disappointed

I liked him. Now I don't. Had to make it about race, had to support Obama. Grrrr.....

 

On a lighter note:

The name Colin Powell sounds like a spicy Asian dish that might wreak havoc on your insides... Spicy Colon POW! 

POwell

Colin should go ahead and leap over to the Dems. We are never going to stop listening to Rush and by the way all the other right wing talk. These people speak for all of us...not at us like Colin wants us to believe. His racist pick of Obama told me alot about his character, which until then I thought was pretty sound. Now, he is just another person who is lost in the rhetoric and grandeur of the first afro-american potus with a sharp tongue.

Colin Powell, pushed aside

Colin Powell, pushed aside by the Bush administration, showed his true colors when he backed Obama. He is a racist who is acting as if he is superior now, saying the GOP went too far right because we listen to the likes of Rush Limbaugh. Well, Mr. Powell, the only truth we get is from conservative talkers and we will fight liberals like you to continue to be able to listen to them. The Obama media is falling apart because the people who buy into their lies aren't very large in numbers. You should go wash your mouth out with soap you sellout!

Please address complaints to

Please address complaints to Powell's new press agent, Mel Anin.

Har

What a genius you are.  Pure wit.  You must be the cleverest kid in your homeroom.

 Colemine1210

Cole... Obviously you

Cole...

Obviously you must of been the one who was least likely picked for anything, especially smarts.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Or Mel's sister, Idee.......

married to Cron Ology

In other words...

Liberals are the only ones who are allowed to be passionate about, be vocal about, and stay true to their principles and beliefs.

Liberals are the only ones allowed to force their views on others while squawking about conservatives doing the same.

 

Arrr, Shiva me timbers its 8 armed freaks

"Powell, who says he still considers himself a Republican"

One has to wonder out loud, as Mark Levin did last night, what exactly is it that makes Powell consider himself a "Republican."

I guess that would be in the same sense as a Hindu convert still considering themselves a Christian, and thinking all these Christians should ditch monotheism and accept multiple Gods. But you'll still be a "Christian."

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

COLON POWELL may as well bash me too because

I listen to Rush and agree with him most of the time.  I'm a pro-life conservative and I'm proud to have served the country that other conservatives like George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson founded.  I fear that my 20 plus years' effort on behalf of winning the cold war against communism was all for nothing as I watch these modern day commies like BARRKY and his ilk take over our nation.  I can see John Adams repenting in heaven that he took half the pains to preserve it.

Die hard Sean Hannity fan who wouldn't have a bear with BARRKY until he repents.

Condescending Colin

Notice how Powell in the video clip said, We are not saying it's bad to be conservative. You can be if you want to be...but in other words your wrong and hopefully you will see your need to "go with the flow!"  Powell makes a swipe at Palin for her "small town values" talk and boasts of his inner-city roots. The only problem with his inner-city is that most people are  trying to get out of them because they are crime ridden dens of misery because liberals don't like to punish their criminal element! I'll take small town values - Thank You!

Very muddled thinking Mr Powell

Are we to assume you believe the Demo party is a paragon of unity? Seems to me ignorance and strong arm tactics are their basic MO.

Are you advocating the GOP abandon priciples to ease polarization? You know the principles: belief in a higher power, individual  responsibility, honest contribution, strong national defense, smaller government etc.

It's the nation that's polarized Mr Powell not the GOP. Perhaps you need make a plea for the Democrat party to adopt a few priciples instead.

Is Gen Powell serious?

Show me where the repubs attacked their families and called names other than socialist. Attacked anyone who dared contradict their candidate or illegally use state data bases to dig up dirt on them. Is Powell out of his ever loving mind?

I'm stunned that there are

I'm stunned that there are still Republicans who didn't know the Powell was a liberal.  This is decade-old news.

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Boycott Bailout Recipients

What lies beneath... well,

What lies beneath... well, at least it's out in the open now.

///The people have spoken!/// INDEED. Slightly over half don't have a CLUE what they spoke for. Enjoy the process as these people slowly get CLUES over a 4yr period. Painful, but enjoyable.

The "Obama-nation"

As a conservative and a Christian I understand something that not one Obama voter realizes. That if 1-20-09 sees obama in office, the effect it will have on our nation will amount to 9/11 multiplied by 100,000 times!  This is worse than most repubs. realize! I believe Obama is the next 9/11, and our defenses have been all but eliminated!

God have mercy!

9/11 multiplied by 100,000

9/11 multiplied by 100,000 times?  So...you "understand" and believe virtually every man, woman, and child in the United States will be killed after Obama becomes President.

As a conservative and a Christian, are you praying that he meets with an unfortunate accident before he assumes office?

Jer

As a conservative and a

As a conservative and a Christian, are you praying that he meets with an unfortunate accident before he assumes office? - No0 Im praying that God's will be done.  I pray that God take him up into His bosoom as soon as possible.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

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Okay Jer, I see what you are doing here.

But sometimes, it's just best to let things go.

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Point taken, Restless...

Point taken, Restless...

But I accused Dan some time ago of having posted it, looked for it for days and couldn't locate it, and then apologized to him for having made the accusation without being able to doument it.  I happened on it a few minutes ago by sheer coincidence.

There is no way I was going to allow him to return and delete it.

BTW, if you scroll up aways, you can also find where I blistered Mike Malloy and called for his firing, just in case Sarge brings up yet again the canard that I've failed to condemn liberals including Malloy.

Jer

truth -- Jer does have a

truth -- Jer does have a point. 100,000x is a bit OTT

But as a conservative I would not rule out the chance to preserve a nucleus of human specimens. It would be quite easy... at the bottom of ah ... some of our deeper mineshafts. The radioactivity would never penetrate a mine some thousands of feet deep. And in a matter of weeks, sufficient improvements in dwelling space could easily be provided.

Well let's see now ah, cobalt thorium G. aa... nn... Radioactive halflife of uh,... hmm.. I would think that uh... possibly uh... one hundred years.It would not be difficult mein Fuhrer! Nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. Greenhouses could maintain plantlife. Animals could be bred and slaughtered. A quick survey would have to be made of all the available mine sites in the country. But I would guess... that ah, dwelling space for several hundred thousands of our people could easily be provided.

It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

 

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

Look all around you General

General Powells assertion the GOP needs to stop shouting at the world and the country tells me he is looking at this with blinders on. The mere mention of the names of our current President and Vice President will create howling winds of anger from the left. Has the General forgotten what Moveon had to say about General Petrause? Does the General know there are Democrats in Congress who want to impeach the President? Is the General aware there are members of the media who believe the country should just set aside the Constitution and swear in president elect Obama at this moment? Is the General  aware of the fact there many on the left who just hate his guts and wish him nothing but the worst simply because of his role in the lead up to war with Saddam Hussien? Is the General aware of the fact the left is getting quite testy at Obamas choices of centrists in his administration? Has the General spent a moment of his time in the angry world of the Daily Kos, Huffpo and others like them? Sorry General, but as much as I have admired you and your contribution to our country your contention about the angry right is not the problem with the GOP.

I've always suspected this

I've always suspected this about Colin Powell.  If it smells like a turd, looks like a turd, and is the color of a turd, then it must be...

Nice

Thanks for revealing your true self.  I always suspected this about "marvi".  Yes, Virginia, there really is such a thing as a "white turd."

Colemine1210

Keep it up Cole....you

Keep it up Cole....you aren't going to have a long shelf life here me thinks.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

No respect for Powell

To think I always said that I would vote for him if he ran for Pres. Never again. "Republicans need to see what's in the hearts and minds of hispanics?" I'm hispanic and I have a different view than Powell's about what's in my mind and heart. If he means we should put up a wall on our borders, stop enabling minorities with welfare, and quit throwing money at government funded institutions, he's right. Republicans need to be Republicans which they haven't been for quite some time now. Not all hispanics think alike, Colin. In fact I probably disagree with about 95% of  hispanics in this country. Powell's just doing this to save his legacy. He realizes Americans think unfavorably of him because of his role in the Bush Admin. Now he wants to make sure he goes down in the history books as a bleeding heart lib with a social conscience. Who needs him. He should be done with politics.

 Basically, Powell

 Basically, Powell believes the best thing for Republicans and Conservatives is to stop listening to Rush, become Democrats and listen to the likes of MoooveOn, and attend DailyKos conventions like his guy Obama and others. You know, the same Democrats who called Powell and Rice such things as Uncle Tom, oreo, Bush's house n*ggar, etc, etc. 

What a fraud. It's truly sad how someone of Powell's stature can have so little self-respect, and be so full of intellectual dishonesty. McCain was EXACTLY the kind of Republican Powell claims to support, yet who did he back? The most liberal, most unqualified candidate ever to win the nomination, who engaged in the very things he see proclaims to be against. I used to respect the guy. No longer.

You can stop lying now, Mr. Powell, your guy won. No need to pretend that you're a Republican/Conservative any longer. 

 

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."

the good General has lost

the good General has lost his way. His race called him all the vile names in the book for being a part of the solution. As BHO moves through his days in office and the public sees what has been done, the Good General is setting the foundation that it is all GWB left overs , that are the problem. Like the Lady Gov. /Rush/ and others who love America 1st. The General has never been a true conservative, but he was given a shot, and this is how one says thanks.Take your 4 Stars a shove them. Once BHO destroys our fine country Colon Powell will be sent packing, or running.

 

 allow me to Love America

 

time for a

"Colin Cleanse"

Colin Powell

"...the GOP must see what is in the "hearts and minds" of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters ..."

But Powell isn't African-American, he is Jamaican-American.  He made that point long ago, before Tiger Woods, pointed out that he was African-Thai-American.

And saying what he said about Rush Limbaugh makes it sound like Powell doesn't listen to Rush, he just listens to what his friends say about Rush.  I listen to Limbaugh often, and he comes up with some high-powered arguments on some complex situations.  He is NOT a hate-monger like Michael Savage on the right or Randi Rhodes on the left.  He is one of the more intelligent talk-show hosts on the radio, and that is why the left hates him, because he comes up with logical, factual arguments against most of their socialist schemes.

For Powell to buy into the left's arguments against Limbaugh is very disturbing.

One of two things...

Colin Powell must be one of two things:

1) A liberal

2) A racist

He has to be one or the other or both...  This is based on his comments about abortion and his support for Obama, who's politics are 100% liberal around taxation, gun control, etc.  Being a Military General has nothing to do with his politics, though most career military men are conservative, it's not part of the definition.

If, in fact, he is not a liberal, and he doesn't agree with Obama's politics, then he must be siding with Obama because of his skin color.  It's a political contest, and when you've been around D.C. as much as Powell, you don't support someone diametrically opposed to you because he gives a nice speech.  So if he isn't a liberal, then he must be a racist.   It's that's simple.  There aren't any other options. 

Can he be a liberal Republican?  Sure, there are already many of those trying to sabotage the party, and doing a good job at it.  Is he a conservative racist?  Possible, but i honestly believe that a true conservative cannot be racist because we believe in freedom for everyone.

But facts remain, either Powell is a liberal, or he is a racist.  I consider them one in the same, anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

Powell needs to get out of

Powell needs to get out of that bubble he's living in there in Washington. He has no idea what in the heck he is talking about. The msm loves to trot him out because he "claims" to be a Republican...sure he is. I wonder if he would have the nerve to tell Rush that to his face?

Jer

When a country rejects God as America is doing through abortion and rights for homos, and other obvious discounts of his sovereignty,(which Obama is for like no other president in our history)we will find ourselves outside of the protective shield of God. Obama will do all he can to blindly lead us in that direction! 

No Christian is for murder, and I did not infer that, but I pray every day that some how he is unable to assume the office. There are enough questions about his natural born citizen status, terrorist connections, unethical political practices, and character issues to stop him if only sleeping Americans would stand up and say something! 

And there is a greater death than the physical death...the spiritual death or the damming of the soul for eternity.

I really don't know what to say

I really don't know what to say other than thanks for your honesty and for reminding me why I'm a Democrat.

Jer

Let's pass the plate for Jer

So he can replace that lost K on his keyboard.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Congratulations choselife...

You are now a member of the 'tiny minds' club consisting of the unclever few here who have engaged in variations of the Jer[k] theme. 

Jer

What a friggin turncoat. 

What a friggin turncoat.  Too bad they don't hang people for treason anymore.

I lost all respect for

I lost all respect for Powell so long ago I can't remember what did if for me back then, I also know he was very involved with the Plame/Wilson BS...Armitage was the guy he used too...I can't prove this, but I posted my thoughts way back when here regarding this all...he was let go by the Bush administration for a good reason...he is a traitor...at least in my eyes.

None of this is surprising for me, he is a disgrace as far as as I am concerned, he isn't and hasn't been a friend of conservatives forever in my eyes.

He has done what he has had to do to get where he is...nothing more, nothing less.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Generals

Throughout history America has suffered poor generals in the service. The promotion to the rank certainly is political. Powell reminds me of the poor generals---pompous, ill-informed, and out of touch. The man has always been a liberal and his comments prove how out of touch he, himself, is with the common man. He is not very bright and I would wager that his race had something to do with his promotions. He is also quite a petty fellow. Remember, Limbaugh pointed out that his support of Barry was based on race as he turned his back on fellow soldier McCain. Powell had to get Rush back for that. The truth hurts, eh general.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

isia... Bulls-Eye...right

isia...

Bulls-Eye...right on the mark..along with others here that have posted.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

'Small town values' VS 'big city values'

Maybe there is a lot to be said for 'small town values', particularly when contrasted with some 'big city values', as exemplied by recent revelations from Chicago!

In his endorsement of Obama, Powell insinuated that Gov Palin made use of anti-Muslim sentiment.  There is no evidence whatsoever for this allegation.  In fact when asked she insisted that there should be no discrimination or religious test for US high office.  Nor is there any evidence of racism in Palin's life--she is after all, married to a native American.  Powell owes her an abject apology.

 Sad

Gen Powell

One must be careful how much energy and hero worship they lend to these people we call politicians. Gen Powell was a political officer while in uniform and not a combat or a "soldiers" General like Norman Schwartzkauf. The ranks are full of them. Wesley Clark is another one. Historically, they make piss poor politicians or should I say "Statesmen". While in uniform they have to keep their real opinions to themselves in order to make life comfortable and Fitness Reports favorable. I see many saying they lost all respect for Powell, or they admired him, would have voted for him. Many of us who were in uniform while he was Head of the JCS knew him for what he was. You kind of develop a sixth sense about people and he just came across as one who looked for opportuities and made certain he was at all the right parties, rubbed the right elbows, kissed the right behinds. I and others on here and elsewhere have said long before this latest display of Opportunism that Powell was a fraud. His explanations exposes his true self and does not hold water or even make logical sense. He was a phony twenty years ago just like he is now. Pick your heros carefully. The man and woman in the trenches is the ones whose blood was shed for your freedoms, not the General who butt sits in a leather chair in Washington D.C.

doug1950

Right on. The men and women in the trenches are our heroes. As Sarah would say, "You betcha!".

NEVER.NEVER trust a "liberal"

 

Political Officers

Those of us who spent any time in service know exactly of what you are talking about.  I only served 21 years but we knew the type.  All BS and no experience

doug1950

"you betcha!" and thanks for serving! I'm one American that would like to hear more military people speak out. 

A very simple question needs to be asked

WHY is it that republicans are ALWAYS the ones who need to change?? Why do the cowards in the media never ask dummycrats to change? (no answer needed)

When and until the cowards in the media start 'reporting' or even doing their job, the consumers of media will always be told republicans are the problem. When the propaganda stops, the country will get back on track.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Hey howdy Fast Ed...I

Hey howdy Fast Ed...

I agree...

I am also going to add here that the repubs need to grow a spine in unison and fight back CONSTANTLY...not just a few here and there now and then, but a heck of a lot 24/7 until they get their points across...I have been waiting years for them to do this...in my eyes, until they do so, instead of playing nice with the msm, worrying about their poll ratings, we are going to continue to sink.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Right BT

Until the GOP is run by someone other than a bunch of constipated old men standing around playing pocket pool, jiggling their keys and loose change nothing is going to change. They keep trotting out their old war horses wrapped in a new blanket and try to pass them off as Stud material. Sarah Palin is the only one in a long time to come along with a spine (I deliberately steered away from other parts of the anatomy).The old go along to get along mentality has played a major role in getting Conservatives to this point. Today, I finally saw some with some huevos when they helped to scuttle the auto bailout.

doug... You and I agree

doug... You and I agree about almost everything from what I have seen...if we do not get the repubs as a whole to understand this.. we are never going to get ahead... they need to fight to the finish, in unison,...this was a problem from way back when Newt got in... I am not going to get into all of how I see things..but major mistakes have been made, arrogance, plus placing RINOs in in stead of conservatives, Toomey is just one example and supporting/backing these people, using the msm without fear of what you say and them using it, (they will always go against you anyway) then we will continue to be remain sunk...and the msm and the dems know this very well...unfortunately the majority of the repubs still do not see the light.

Just one example, look at what the repubs who stayed in during the summer recess when Pelosi adjourned, turned off speakers and lights, not letting the have floor speeches about the gas prices adn drilling here....they made PROGRESS with their daily pressers ect...

Well, enough of my rant...I know you understand where I am coming from and going.

 "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Wow

I can't say I'm surprised by the run of commentary concerning General Powell.  Jokes about his skin color, his name, calling him a traitor, the usual Newsbusters vulgarity.  Whatever you people say about HuffPo and Kos, et al, how in the name of God do you people truly believe yourselves to be any better?  Apologies and respect to those few of you who wrote decent and thoughtful comments.

Pathetic Cole. "America

Pathetic Cole.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Colemine1210 is a troll...Colemine1210 is a troll....

Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Colemine1210 is a troll....Ahhhhhhhhhh

Got a cigarette?

Har

Dear "old cro", Thanks for making me laugh this morning.  It's why I participate in this site.

Colemine1210

troll:  one who does not march in lockstep with the other bots who write comments on this ridiculous site.

Colin Powell is a Racist

Not us, he is the one who voted based on skin color not principles. I mean what was Powell's reason not to vote for McCain? McCain was an honorable military man who served with him in Vietnam, a liberal on many issues like Powell ect...

Otherwise please show me where Powell has supported Socialist policies like Obama.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Brain damage?

Dear "popular tech",

You are either an ignorant fool, or you have undiagnosed brain damage.  It follows automatically that not voting for McCain makes one a racist?  Even a moderate to liberal Republican?  Here's an equally stupid argument:  you didn't vote for Obama because of his skin color.  See how idiotic these arguments are? Try not to throw the "r" word around too indiscriminately.  You look like a knuckle-dragging buffoon, which I am sure you are not.

Colemine1210

Colin Powell is a racist for voting for Obama

It follows that the only reason for Powell to vote for Obama was race. It is without question Powell wanted to see a black man as president regardless of qualifications or political orientation - that is the definition of a racist.

You don't serve two Republican presidents and then out of nowhere just decide to vote for a Socialist Democrat when the Republican running is a good friend of yours who served with you honorably in Vietnam. It is not even if he did not vote for McCain it was the fact that he voted for Obama against McCain that makes him a racist.

Please explain what Powell has in common with Obama besides skin color? I am really interested in this one.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

"Please explain what Powell

"Please explain what Powell has in common with Obama besides skin color? I am really interested in this one." 

 

The willingness to say and do anything to further their own personal agenda/career. 

 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Colin Who?

Colin Who? A quick search shows that the time he has spent out of work corresponds exactly with the the onset of dementia and the ravages of Alzheimers. Usually the patient is the last to know he needs help.

What would you expect from

What would you expect from an Affirmative Action General?

The usual

     "The usual News Busters Vulgarity"The subject at hand is a pretty heated subject, and this is a place to vent, pour out your personal opinions, but by comparison to the vicious liberal web sites that spew the most vile and toxic $hit you can immagine, no comparison.

Example: Tony Snow was a very articulate, accomplished journalist that fought a long and courageous battle against cancer, and a lot of it was on T V. Never ever heard the man whine one time about the absolute hell he had to be going thru. Those liberal web sites said the most vile and rotten things about the man that could ever be conjured up just because he was a conservative.

      I've only been coming on News Busters since this past September, and sure, there's a train of conservative thought, and that's why I like to come here. As far as Collin Powell is concerned, I definitely expressed my negative feelings towards him, and I am not going to retract anything I said. For a Military man to have the resume he has, I expect a more dedicated, honorable, principaled, and supportaive example to the people you align yourself with. When you accept the job as SOS to the USA, and you know the political party you have sided with, then take yourself out, and later come back in an adversarial form against that party, and expect the followers in that party to think highly of you.....BULL $HIT! Hey colemine! Go to the Seattle P I David Horsey web site. You wanna see some real one sided, back stabbing vulgarity? They don't need my promo!

Divisive Powell

In his comments, Colin Powell makes large assumption about 'identity politics', that the US is the 'disunited States', a random collection of people split up ito tribes and groups based mainly on race and ethnicity.  The Republican Party will prosper only if it adopts such a presumption.  This is dangerous and divisive.

In stark contrast, Goveror Sarah Palin presented a unifying theme of all Americans together, however diverse their origins, sharing and inheriting an exceptional founding idea, a shared republic and a common framework of laws.  And in stark contrast to the divisive gender bitterness of the feminist establishment, in her life she presents an beautiful  ideal of 'collaborative equality' between men and women. 

In comparing Gov Palins presentations on the one hand, with the effusions of Powell and other detractors on the other, one is struck by the contrast between an intelligence rooted in life and experience and an dissicated intellectualism rooted in abstractions and 'terrible simplifications'.

Thank you!!

Dear "GeneCar",

I greatly admire your post on Colin Powell this morning.  I can't say I entirely agree with you (the Republican party seems to me to have derived most of its recent power in divisive identity politics, courtesy of  Lee Atwater and Karl Rove), but I am impressed by the intelligence and consistency of your argument.

Colemine1210

"I can't say I entirely

"I can't say I entirely agree with you (the Republican party seems to me to have derived most of its recent power in divisive identity politics, courtesy of  Lee Atwater and Karl Rove),"

 

Any real Republican or Conservative for that matter wouldn't make an asinine comment like that.

 

And anyone that was a real scholar of politics over the last 30 years or so and not a cut and paste closet DUmmie/Kos Kiddie would know that when it comes to divisive politics...race baiting...and downright politics of personal destruction...your comrades in the Democrat Party have it down to an art form.

 

Need proof?  Which party was it out there trashing Palin 30 minutes after she was named MCCain's running mate?

 

Which party smears anyone of color or the female gender that happens to be Republican...Conservative...or does not subscribe to the Socialist Dogma of the Democrat Party?

 

Hint: It's not the GOP. 

 

Now run along back to DU and start a thread about how you schooled some Rethuglican Fundies and I'll be at Conservative Cave laughing my @ss off at your pathetic boasting. 

 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Divisive politics

 Dear Coemine1210

I certainly wasn't making any defense of past republican Party actions; I was makng a point about the political philosophy of Governor Palin.  There are many Republican Pols in Alaska that are none too pleased with her.  If there have been and are the kind of divsive politics in that party, the Governor Palin may be the one to fix them.

Powell is a daughter of the Confederacy

He epitomizes the neutered, feminized man, i.e., just as with feminist women, nothing is ever good enough for him, no one is ever good enough for him and he deserves more and more without much effort.

Had Powell lived in the 1860s, he'd have joined the Confederacy. What an ass he is!

Colin Powell

Powell is a washed up wannabe.  If he doesn't like Rush he has the same option that 20 million listeners have.  His opinion is worhtless and his instincts are about the same he had when he knew there were WMDs in Iraq.

Nick O

Powell = RINO

Why doesn't Bush's best cheerleader for the Iraq War just tell us what he thinks is in their hearts and minds?

OK, I'm fine with any

OK, I'm fine with any useful criticisms of President Bush since he was part of that administration...but Rush and Palin???

WTH is he up to?

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Has anyone read his book?

'My American Journey' - I fortunately/unfortunately have.  Upon reading I found someone that has spent his entire life and miltary career covering his a**.  He comes across as an elitist that plays the game according to the company he keeps.

Someone posted it earlier - he is just an opportunist.

 Nothing wrong with that.  Everyone's trying to make their way through the world and we do what we have to to make do.  But having knowledge of this fact, someone tell me what Colin Powell's principles are.  What are his core beliefs?

Anyone...?

Something...?

Just one...?

Ok...here's one - Colin Powell.

Good Orderly Direction

go powell!

i love how you republicans still dont get it.  bush ruined your image, it has to now be remade.  period.  get started or become even more irrelavant. 

and btw it is quite the stretch to say powell 'bashed' palin and limbaugh.  palin was a hired attack dog, everyone with any sense new that.  it backfired.  again, get over it and move on, let her go back to alaska and hibernate.  limbaugh is struggling to maintain even the loosest grasp on reality, again, get over it.  turn him off and start thinking dittoheds.  ironic that you morons rail on the 'mainstream media' and then lap up the swill this vile man spouts.  oh well, good luck with that.  youve got 8 years to get a clue, should be enough time. 

Nice.

We need a better class of troll, here.

 

 

Yeah, your opinion

Yeah, your opinion matters.  I'm no fan of GWB.  This is a guy who bent over backward to placate the so-called "mainstream media".  After the 2000 election...an election that he won legitimately, the corrupt press attempted to portray Al Gore's failure to steal the 2000 election as George Bush actually stealing the election.  They did everything they could to portray Bush as an illegitimate President.  Instead of enacting the agenda that he was elected to promote, Bush attempted to mollify the corrupt media by nominating that mindless bureaucrat Colin Powell to be Secretary of State, by letting Fat Uncle Ted Kennedy write the education bill, by permitting Daschle to hijack the Senate, etc.  But, of course, that didn't appease the Marxists on the left or their PR scribes in the media...it only served to anger Republicans.  He inherited a deep recession yet brought in years of economic prosperity through tax cuts.  The journalistic fraud that this man had to contend with was unprecedented...and after years of the media misinforming the public about the war effort and the Katrina disaster (and Bush's centrist, pro-government spending, pro-illegal immigration agenda alienating the party's conservative base), "Bush fatigue" set in.  Enabling the Marxists to take over. 

So, what's happened in the two years since Stretch Pelosi and that Nevada grifter Harry Reid assumed power?  Gasoline went up to $4.00/gallon, prices of food and essentials skyrocketed, government added even more costs for doing business, so people with less money started to let their mortgages go.  The recent financial disasters have been exclusively down to big government...and down specifically to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi (but, of course, they had the corrupt media on their side to parrot their talking points to make it appear that all failure was Bush's fault). 

Meanwhile, John McCain, a soft, "moderate" Republican cut from the same cloth as that self-important opportunist Colin Powell , used Democrats and Independents "crossing over" to win two early open primaries...the unstoppable momentum leading to him securing the nomination.  Had McCain not chosen someone like Palin, he would have lost in a 50-state landslide because Republicans would not have turned up to vote at all.

You're feeling pretty smug and cocky right now.  But if Obama is stupid and he and his stacked Congress enact the kind of crap that they say they want to, the country will collapse.  Your party will then be over in two years, by which time the Republican Party will have purged itself of the Powells, the McCains, the Chafees, the Kristols, the Schwarzeneggers and all the other RINO dead weight.  Meanwhile, Limbaugh, with his 20 million plus audience will keep plugging along, scaring the crap out of riff-raff like you, speaking for the same conservative principles in the same reasoned, literate, entertaining tone that got him the audience he has.  And Colin Powell will be what he always has been, an empty uniform.  

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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→ Elegant flower Powell

Yep, I remember when a bunch of us thought Powell was a great American.

In reality, maybe we were just hoping this elegant lotus blossom was truly a great thinker.

But if we analyze it now, it's obvious he was willing to talk the world into war with Iraq based on information he felt was false.

Is there any doubt he was privy to the same information as the President?

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Powell Couldn't Be Less Relevant... or More Wrong

What does Colin Powell know, anyway. He’s the nominal “Republican” that endorsed Obama, then re-assured us all that he was “qualified to be Commander-in-Chief” the week before the Russians caught Obama completely asleep-at-the-wheel and nabbed the Krgyzstani air-base that we use to fly-in most of our supplies to Afghanistan.I don’t trust Powell an inch, he apparently feels guilty about promoting the Iraq war (but shouldn’t) and is trying to make amends. Powell’s advice and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee at 7-11 (small). Who cares what he thinks, Obama's programs are a guaranteed fail- and that's all that matters in the end. There'll be no hiding the damage Obama is doing to the county in a year or two. I love how these critics of the GOP assume everything will just work out great with trillion dollar deficits and a pacifist foreign policy- When their pork-n-welfare spending orgy fails to create any real economic gains -but stokes vicious inflation and crashes the dollar instead- the Democrats face a bloodbath in 2010. Barack can kiss 2012 goodbye, no matter how hard he attacks the GOP and has the MSM plant BS stories and manufactured "scandals". His foreign policy is headed straight for an iceberg, as well.Ironically, Powell and W did a lot of damage to the GOP brand... but Obama-Pelosi-Reid will be the ones to fix it all-up for us- already as good as done. Funny how life is.http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com