"Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens our hearts and enslaves our minds."

And yet Communist Russia had no religion, yet enslaved people's hearts, minds and bodies.

 Meygan won that debate because any speech, no matter how insulting is protected under the 1st Amendment.  For O'Reilly to state that the government should regulate that speech is inviting things such as the Fairness Doctrine.

Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration

http://www.despair.com/government.html

I can't believe I have to put up with Gregoire for four more years. 

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

And I am absolutely sure that there are no absolutes. </sarcasm> There is so much wrong with this pompous declaration that I don't know where to begin. Their whole statement is a manifestation of hard hearts and enslaved minds. Do they see it? No. So who has the enslaved mind? Who has the hard heart?

Lift up thine eyes now and consider, who hath made all these things?

What Bill should do is use this as an opportunity to point out the flaw in such thinking, the self-evident contradiction in the declaration that there is no God. No one will win this argument by using any government anywhere.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

this case, she is right on the laws as they pertain to speech and she is wrong regarding the discression of the Governor.

The agreement as they discussed does give the state government control over "time, place, and mannor" and because of that the Govenor should have told the godless that it was NOT the proper TIME and NOT the proper PLACE! Manner? Who knows? 

The godless should go pound sand.

Bill was right to call her the coward that she is. Another explaination for the Gov could be she is Godless too!

Shame shame shame!

...except on one point - replacing the word 'religion' with 'blacks' does not create a similar message. Bill is right in saying those would be 'fighting words.'

The message, as it is, attacks an <i>ideology</i>. If the message was directed at blacks, as Bill used as an example, it becomes an attack on <i>race</i>.

 There is a huge difference. It's comparing apples and oranges.

     I try to limit my personal opinions, and comments to a maximum of one a day, but.....this subject in my home state, something I am familiar with even though I do not live there anymore, my hand is on the keyboard. When something comes on NB, and it relates to wacky Seattle, I generally see a few PNW residents make comments, that they hate what's going on there, and it doesn't apply to them. I feel their pain, and I know of what they are talking about.

      There are a lot of good people in Washington state, most of my close friends, but I have spent a good part of my lifetime trying to figure what has turned the western side of the state into a San Francisco north and of course Seattle , my hometown, where I was raised and educated, lived most of my life, I am a complete outsider because of my conservatism and just about everything else, except Husky football.

     The Governor is a Roman Catholic that graduated from Gonzaga, She had a photo op just recently in front of my alma mater, which is a suburb of Olympia, which is a Catholic Monastery and small Universsity, and she is behind this atheist display at the state capitol in Olympia.

      I have commented before on N B about people in Government today, like Pelosi, Biden and others, that put up this front they are Catholics, all the time condoning the murding of babies. The church needs to have a louder voice against this kind of crap, and I sure hope my alma mater is taking notes about what's going on at the capitol, about 6 miles away, and keeps Gregoire out of the pictures in the alumni news that I get.

      The capitol in Olympia is just an extension of Seattle, and the people had a chance to vote this crud out of office just a month ago,and that tells me the biggest majority must like it. When your'e up in Seattle for a visit, ask where Freemont is, you can go and pray at the feet of Lenin, his statue is there.

In my opinion O'reilly is sitting in Megyn Kelly's chair.

You better break yo'self fool!

A very bright intelligent attorney and a Murdoch-hated, washed up Ted Baxter "News Anchor" go toe to toe over the first amendment, who wins?

NOT THE ONE YELLIN', STOMPIN' HIS FEET, HUFFIN' AND PUFFIN' LIKE AN ENRAGED BULL ABOUT TO BE CASTRATED...

She crushed him!

Rupert must give her raise and her own show...Bye, Bye Billo!

As for the Sign, it seems someone decided to censor free speech and steal the sign..."What sign?!?

Hey did anyone check out this report on the Blue Angels tryouts in Fla.?

Blue

You talkin' to me?

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Fairfax County head of the Board of Supervisors Gerry Connolly (Democrat), approved the Islamic School on Fairfax County owned ground, along with a unanimous vote of the Democrat controlled School Board.

Gerry Conolly was elected Congressman, 11th Congressional District.

"I bring a passion for progressive values, and an ethic of getting things done.  I want to bring that same ethic -- the expectation that government will work for its citizens -- to the United States Congress."

-- Gerry Connolly

Text books at this Islamic school (on government owned property) include:
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The authors of a 12th-grade text on Quranic interpretation state that apostates (those who convert from Islam), adulterers and people who murder Muslims can be permissibly killed.

The authors of a 12th-grade text on monotheism write that "(m)ajor polytheism makes blood and wealth permissible," meaning that a Muslim can take with impunity the life and property of someone believed guilty of polytheism. According to the panel, the strict Saudi interpretation of polytheism includes Shiite and Sufi Muslims as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

A social studies text offers the view that Jews were responsible for the split between Sunni and Shiite Muslims: "The cause of the discord: The Jews conspired against Islam and its people. A sly, wicked person who sinfully and deceitfully professed Islam infiltrated (the Muslims)."

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There seems to be NO 'Separation of Church and State' with 'Progressive Democrats' towards any group except Christians?

These are two intelligent, thoughful and passionate people, and I think that they both made good points in defending their opinions.

Bill comes at this insane issue from the standpoint of appropriateness, and Megyn comes at it from a legal direction. Like it or not, as much as I sympathize with Bill's perspective (which basically I agree with), I think that Megyn is correct from a legal stance. Christine Gregoire is a moron who never should have said okay to allowing pretty much every nutcase group with an axe to grind or wacko viewpoint to espouse, a venue to display their nonsense. Like Bill said, she should have said no to the atheists, and let it get sorted out in court. But she chickened out, and caved, and now she's allowed the whole issue to degenerate into a circus.

I wonder how many of the voters in Washington, who for some ridiculous reason just re-elected Gregoire, are experiencing "buyer's remorse?"  

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981

it showed up at a local country radio station tonight. lol

Sorry Bill, but Megyn owned your butt.

"If you think you're finished shopping for Christmas, why not start on next year"

This is my problem with the impending Chritmas season. Living near Sodom and Gonorrhea (aka SF Bay Area), I always get this guilt feeling of pure hypocrisy whenever Christmas music is being played over the airwaves.  I mean Christianity is constantly being targeted around here almost year round, yet the Christmas season comes and they play (almost to a mockery) some of the world's best solemn songs about Christ's birth.  It's just not right IMHO.  Frankly I don't care about atheism or agnosticism, just don't get that crap in my face (as in gay issues or what not).

Megyn was exactly correct in her assessment of it not being governments job to regulate free speech or deem what's appropriate or not.

While I completely disagree with these athiests, it would be very dangerous and a slippery slope for the government to decide what's acceptable speech and what isn't.