The Associated Press just published a disturbing piece about a rise in race-related crimes and incidents since Election Day:
Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.
Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.
From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.
The article listed some of these disgusting incidents:
_Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: "Let's shoot that (N-word) in the head." Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say.
_At Standish, Maine, a sign inside the Oak Hill General Store read: "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when Obama would be killed. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the marker board was written "Let's hope someone wins."
_Racist graffiti was found in places including New York's Long Island, where two dozen cars were spray-painted; Kilgore, Texas, where the local high school and skate park were defaced; and the Los Angeles area, where swastikas, racial slurs and "Go Back To Africa" were spray painted on sidewalks, houses and cars.
_Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted "assassinate Obama," a district official said.
Is this really America in 2008? How can we still be here as a nation?
On the other hand, how much of this was instigated by Obama and his surrogates?
After all, they used race to beat Hillary in the primaries, and did the same against McCain while also employing class warfare to separate America along income lines.
Forgive me, but you can't spend ten months dividing the country for your own political purposes without there being repercussions.
That is by no means an excuse for this atrocious behavior. However, should the Obama campaign deserve some responsibility for this post-election hostility?
Before casting this aside as sour groups, consider what would have happened if they hadn't used the race card so frequently to their advantage, and instead run a completely colorblind campaign devoid of race- and class-baiting.
Maybe such disgusting incidents would have been nonexistent or, at the very least, far less frequently occurring.
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Race again
November 15, 2008 - 17:30 ET by TheAssessorThe campaign for '12 and the obamanites would love to keep race on the front page so they can keep their other agenda items on the back page. It's a built in innoculation. They can rationalize almost anything as racism. Sounds like a plan to me.. unless it backfires. Would be interesting to know if they have a plan B.
It's America, not Omerica
Sounds like more "faux" hate
November 15, 2008 - 19:39 ET by winston smithSounds like more "faux" hate crimes. If you do an internet search on the name 'Dyron Hart', you'll come up with a rather interesting story that the media doesn't appear to be too interested in. Wonder why?
Winston 'Dyron'
November 15, 2008 - 21:46 ET by TheAssessorI did the search you recommended. Very interesting indeed. Thanks for pointing me to it. Too bad the media never looks at the whole picture. As other posters have pointed out 'no point in trusting almost anything they report'. They're mostly stories, weaved in a tales, signifying..
It's America, not Omerica
Note...
November 15, 2008 - 17:30 ET by mizflame98How many instances of racism occured in the blue states. You know why racism will not die? It's because there are far too many people profiting from it...including our president elect.
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Anyone who posts any sort of threat against our president, racial or otherwise; should be beaten within an inch of their lives.
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Here's a dirty little
November 15, 2008 - 17:59 ET by ConservativeRexHere's a dirty little secret that we Southerners have known for generations. Boston, Mass. is more racist then Birmingham, Ala
You'll never see it in the papers. But it's true. Those blue blood Yankees hide it pretty good. Just bring up school busing to Bostonians. Then it'll come out.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
November 15, 2008 - 18:31 ET by mizflame98I was born & raised in Phila. and live in Texas. You want to take a guess as to where you'll find more racists?
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maybe
November 15, 2008 - 17:45 ET by AgnosticI noticed there are no links to pictures or youtube videos of these racial atrocities. http://sweetness-lig...
After the last two years I am most likely to believe every story in the media is a lie or a series of facts organized to tell a lie. I need more proof than ever.
Racism is wrong. Using race to intimidate and manipulate people is racism regardless of your skin color or your intentions.
Just do the math!
November 15, 2008 - 23:42 ET by IamTinmanAccording to the article there were "hundreds of hate crimes". Since it was the Southern Poverty Law Center that reported these "Hate crimes" my guess it was in the low hundreds.
There are 300 Million citizens of the United States of America. That would average out to likely 1 hate crime per 1 million americans. Not such a great statistic, but not so horrible as the AP tries to make it sound either
Remember also that the article said there was ONE case of physical violence in a nation of 300 million. Once again not such a bad number.
None of this is to justify hate crimes. Each and every one should be investigated and the perpertrators punished if guilty. However to suggest like the AP article did, that this nation has reverted to the rampant racism of years past is absurd and the numbers bear that out.
I don't trust the news
November 15, 2008 - 17:48 ET by rbosqueI don't trust the news sources, they always operate congruent to their own agendas. There's always racism but it flows both ways. They want to perpetuate racism by making it seem it's always against blacks. Not true.
2nd and 3rd grade students
November 15, 2008 - 18:02 ET by bigtimer2nd and 3rd grade students are chanting assassinate Obama in Rexburg, Id. I find that very very hard to believe...if this is true I want to hear of see how this came about.
Don't get me wrong...I know there is racism in this country still, including reverse racism...but for kids that age to be chanting that on a school bus....really, the kids have much more going on in their lives than to sit on a school bus and think that up all by themselves at that age.
As far as I am concerned, Obama and the msm have perpetuated the race card forever now...I still think they are doing just that via msm of all venues and will continue to do so.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT
November 15, 2008 - 18:08 ET by well99I agree with you.It sounds pretty fishy to me.I think there is some creative writing going on.
Reverse racism?
November 15, 2008 - 18:12 ET by cheefloThere is no such thing as reverse racism. There is only racism, no matter who it comes from.
By qualifying it, you assign primary responsibility to whites, when there is quite a lot of outright racism against whites. That doesn't seem to garner any attention in the press.
Racism is the lowest form of collectivism. It's ugly. But it certainly isn't unique to the white community.
I was just about to respond
November 15, 2008 - 18:29 ET by GregEI was just about to respond with the same thing, then read your post.
Absolutely, racism is racism. I wish I knew where "reverse racism" originated. It's illogical phrase.
No offense Bigtimer, not a slam on you. I'm pretty sure you agree. I've used the phrase too, and caught myself.
Don't get me wrong...I know
November 15, 2008 - 18:26 ET by motherbeltDon't get me wrong...I know there is racism in this country still, including reverse racism. -bigtimer
AHA bt!! The minute you typed that you knew I was going to jump on you for it, didn't you?? LOL!
Afternoon mb... LOL...I
November 15, 2008 - 18:29 ET by bigtimerAfternoon mb...
LOL...I really am...and yes I did it intentionally just waiting for ya!
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Maybe such disgusting incidents would have been nonexistent ...
November 15, 2008 - 18:07 ET by cheefloMaybe such disgusting incidents are nonexistent. Hard to say. It is the AP reporting it, after all.
Racist AP
November 15, 2008 - 18:45 ET by TN MomThe AP article makes it appear as if whites are the racists and black people are victims. If the AP would do their job, there are many incidents on both sides. The media have stoked this fire with their CONSTANT claims of racism.
As someone who lives in TN, I know first-hand that 'reverse' racism is alive and flourshing. African-Americans have been led by such racists as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson & the NAACP, leaders who taught generations of people to believe in their hate. They shunned Bill Cosby who dared to speak against them.
Obama played the race card early and often during his campaign. The media jumped on the race bandwagon calling anyone/any group who had a negative comment about obama, racist. The media has just about crossed the line of 'crying wolf'...as their constant screams of racism (where none exists or exists on BOTH sides) no longer elicits white guilt. White people are numb to it... I see it on websites and I hear it all around the nation.
It's hard to understand?
November 15, 2008 - 18:46 ET byNoel,
You don't understand the anger from the left...I'll need to use a little paraphrasing of one of your statements...
So... Forgive me, but you, Mr. Bush, can't spend eight years dividing the country for
your own political purposes without there being repercussions.
The People of the United States just spoke and voted for change...
Welcome to the Obama Era, Noel.
Übercon
"Yes, We can!" President-Elect Barack Obama
Shocked? Your reaction is "Uberconian" Schadenfreude!
Überdoof ???
November 15, 2008 - 19:37 ET by LionKingLet's see. Bush was not running for re-election. McCain was only slightly more to the right than Obama -- conservatives had no "real" choice. If yo you want to fault anyone, fault the MSM. They chose McCain for the Republicans and used all their resources to enusre that Obama got elected.
The MSM never did any stories on his past associations or the alleged issues with his eligibility.
The divisiveness stems from the democrats.They want to blame Bush, McCain, and Republicans for the financial mess; the truth is that it started with the Democrats and CRA; Chris Dodd, Barney "Hide-the" Frank, and Obama had friends at Freddie and Fannie get rich off their inaction and complacency
dont forget how "one way" the libs are
November 15, 2008 - 19:48 ET by porpoiseboythey spent 7+ years bitching about bush and the cons...and though there was alot to complain about...they complained even when they had to make it up. bho gets elected and all of a sudden "the people have spoken" "he is everyone's president".....ad nauseum....the left is so full of hypocrisy, no wonder they are pissed all the time...must make them sick too,
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
Racism from our brothers
November 16, 2008 - 06:35 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsThe People of the United States just spoke and voted for change...
Actually, what we have witnessed is the first Presidential election where the winner was elected based solely on race. Most of the nation was on one side or the other and voted accordingly. What swung the race (no pun intended) was the 30 million 'African Americans' (a divisive term, meant to do just that) who voted 95% for Obama just because of the color of his skin. If they had voted 50% - 50% democrat - Republican, McCain would have won. The people didn't speak, racism spoke.
D
P.S. If whites had voted 95% McCain, then McCain would have won, and due to a double standard, we would have seen riots.
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Mild in Comparison
November 15, 2008 - 18:48 ET by ChasvsThis is mild in comparison to the riots that would have broken out if Obama the magnificent had lost this election! Remember the lefties warning of a new civil war if he wasn't elected!
how many people would be dead already if the bros had run the street like they did after katrina or any other natural disaster?
Barack Obama's affirmative action election, no make that coronation is an affront to Dr ML King's dream. obama was selected based on the color of his skin, and not on the content of his character!
As with the car and
November 15, 2008 - 18:49 ET by SlicksterAs with the car and banking industry, the race industry must manufacture a crisis to keep itself afloat. The magic negro is all for this, as it masks his scams and schemes from the public eye. Obama has never used his bi-racial heritage to quell any of this. Chicago politics at its best.
Yes, many don't like Obama
November 15, 2008 - 18:55 ET by natgoldieI just wonder how many of these incidents are simply people who don't care for Obama expressing their views, which are then incorrectly labeled as racist. I honestly can't stand the guy and am waiting for the day he is out of the White House for good...am I a racist? I could care less about the color of his skin. Instead, I hate what he stands for (big spending), I feel he is dishonest, corrupt, has a shady past, and has no business being President..he has no record and no experience. He is a fraud! Am I a racist for hating Obama?!? Plenty of black and whites have hated Bush and wished for his death...were they ever labeled racist? Not so much.
We're probably looking at a
November 15, 2008 - 19:02 ET by robert108We're probably looking at a lot of hoaxes here; I have perceived a lot more arrogance and hate from minorities as a result of their thinking that they "won" this election. Obama ran the most racist campaign I've ever seen. It's not surprise that he stirred up a lot of hatred. Race hatred is the core teaching of black liberation theology.
That's the word I was looking for.
November 15, 2008 - 19:12 ET by viluzionHoax. It seem to me that most of the so-called hate crimes (nooses, swastikas, etc.) I read about ultimately prove to have been perpetrated by the 'victims'.
first hand information
November 15, 2008 - 19:05 ET by katainkentThe Sign in Standish Maine
The School Children on the Bus
The "Free Expression Tunnel" at NC State
Kilgore, TX Graffiti
Los Angeles, CA Graffiti
muliple Obama effigy-related expulsions and arrests have occurred as well.
This trash is absolutely unacceptable.
This however, warranted only a stern talking to.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
Your "this however" was
November 15, 2008 - 19:13 ET by motherbeltYour "this however" was especially bad because right after that, (I mean within days!) 2 college students were arrested for an effigy of Obama!
I commented on it here at the time, and linked to the story.
mb
November 15, 2008 - 19:22 ET by TN MomHelen Jones-Kelly (State of Ohio employee) charged with snooping in Joe The Plumber's records is an African-American...
Why is she not labled a racist for snooping on a white man?
progressive equality.
November 15, 2008 - 19:23 ET by mizflame98That's because there was no law broken with the effigy of Palin while an effigy of Obama is considered a hate crime.
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MB, remember all those
November 15, 2008 - 19:40 ET by ConservativeRexMB, remember all those "nooses" at Columbia Uni last year? And all thoses racist scrawlings on car's in Durham?
I don't believe a word out of the AP. If it is happening at all, it's the Obamiacs doing it.
I only believe 25% of the
November 15, 2008 - 19:15 ET by liberal_bug_zapperI only believe 25% of the pictures from AP and 5% of what is written. They are just another propaganda arm for Obama. They also should talk about all the attacks on McCain/Palin supporters that are racially motivated, like the college student who was attacked by four black women on campus after the election, or how people are being shunned and called racist for not supporting Obama. People like me for example.
My family has largely stopped talking to me and have called me hateful and ignorant. Do you know what I said? I said that I believe that whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as property.
Well as you might imagine, I received a barrage of angry emails and letters from my family proclaiming me a hateful ignorant and divisive racist who they will no longer talk to because doing so ruins the this moment in America where the country is finally not ruled by pure evil.... yes, one of them actually said that W is pure evil.
I'm glad that I won't be talking to them any longer since they're completely nuts, however, one of the nutjobs happens to be my sister.
I'm sad that my relationship has come to an end with her for now. It's very sad they are so closed minded.
Well, as I've said before, I am also leaving the Republican party since I highly doubt that the Republicans will be able to get rid of RINOs. I won't be in a party that is not ideology first, party second. So, for now, I'm in the Objectivist Party. I recommend that everyone who is a true free market and freedom and liberty loving conservative also join up in the Objectivist Party. Yes, we know Ayn Rand didn't want an Objectivist Party, but Conservative Party was already taken by Christians who are bent on making this a Christian nation... which it isn't. It is a nation where all beliefs are meant to be freely practiced without bias.
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Race hustlers
November 15, 2008 - 19:39 ET by iveseenitallEven since the 60's, the race hustlers have been around. And the media is among the worst of them. What would they report if they they didn't have the "race" card to stir the masses. Just more of what we refer to as "journalism" today. That being said, anyone who believes Barry and his gang of Chicago thugs aren't going to use race to get what they want, need to check out that bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
zap... You're not alone
November 15, 2008 - 20:27 ET by bigtimerzap...
You're not alone with family members with this past election, I have a feeling there are quite a few of us across this land that are in same situations, in most cases it will just take time for them to see the light...if they ever do, they are going to have the msm defending this man/administration every step of the way for the next four years...no matter what happens in any area...
I don't belong to the repub party although I have voted as such for years hoping to keep good conservatives and my values in congress...unfortunately it has disintegrated over the years with the RINO party behind the scene people running the show...
It will take years if not decades to undo all the damage that is going to be done with what is about to descend upon us....read this...be prepared folks, this power congress will use here will undo laws that we thought were passed...we are so screwed...let alone the judges that are going to be rammed through all across this land.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The intent of this propaganda campaign is to stifle
November 15, 2008 - 22:17 ET by ahusserdissent, and ultimately destroy conservativism as a viable entity. These attacks will not stop but continue until the hue and cry is raised against us. I, too, don't know where to go as the Republican Party has self destructed into splinters and I can't pass the Christian litmus test and I am not a RINO or belong to a country club.
I also sympathize with you LBZ as my family have some weird right hating delusions about President Bush specifically and conservatives in general. I always find BDS a very disturbing mental illness and mass delusion. (transference and projection anyone?)
Racism is alive and well!
November 15, 2008 - 19:27 ET by jackie3Ah, how shocked the media sounds! Racism is alive and well in not just the USA but other countries as well. Racism--the word itself conjures images of the KKK surrounding a burning cross but in reality it has a much wider array. Black men can be just as racist as white. Indian's still refer to the "white man" as the "white man." Not brothers. For we are still invaders to the native Americans. The Muslims are racist as well. We are infidels for being Christians. Another form of "racism" for lack of a better term.
Yes, Virginia there is racism. And it's spread through out the world in a cloak of deception and hidden from innocent eyes that watch violent TV shows and play Grand Theft Auto. It's in the heart of our society and cannot be eradicated by the ignorance that claims our school systems or the dribble of spew that erupts from the anchor's lips on the nightly news.
Of course, we are denial that exist. Which is a shame for the first part of healing from any affliction is to accept the truth. Something too many of us are willing to let go of in the name of ratings and profits.
Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Affirmative Action
November 15, 2008 - 19:56 ET by iveseenitall"Race", of course , is at the core of misplaced Affirative Actiion programs. Pushing the incompeteent to the head of the line because of their race is just as bad as pushing people to the back of the line or denying them because of their race. It causes nothing but anger and resensentment. Now it has happened with the presidency and millions of people deeply resent it. If Barry weren't black, he wouldn't be where he is, plain and simple.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
isia... Well
November 15, 2008 - 19:59 ET by bigtimerisia...
Well said.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Noel
November 15, 2008 - 20:06 ET by shawn228I am not denying that Obama used race in his campaign, but at the same time. I believe we can come together as a nation. Also no matter what Obama said, that does not excuse the disgusting racist acts..ie the nooses and racist grafitti.
He had my vote
shawn...sometimes
November 15, 2008 - 20:12 ET by porpoiseboyyou slay me dude. kubaya and all that. no mention of the fact that obama attended a black racist church for 20yrs. and i'm not just talking about rev wright. black liberation theology is inherently racist. the knife cuts both ways. that's what bho's detractors were trying to say for a long time.....his actions never matched his rhetoric.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
porpoiseboy
November 15, 2008 - 20:19 ET by shawn228Even Noel said there is no excuse for these despicable acts of racism and I agree with them.
Even though Obama was in a racist church, he repudiated the comments of Rev Wright. Please clarify by what you mean by black theology. To say or imply Obama might be responsible for hanging nooses I do not agree with.
He had my vote
shawn please stop misquoting me
November 15, 2008 - 20:28 ET by porpoiseboyi did not use the term "black theology"...not even sure there is such a thing. however "black liberation theology" is another matter. read james cone. it is waaay to long to give it proper treatment here. but one thing it does espouse is that white evangelicals are inherently racist and therefore cannot be truly christian. that belongs to the black church....then there is the whole black jesus thing.....you need to read more than the wiki blurb on it to know what it is.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Sorry PPB
November 15, 2008 - 20:30 ET by shawn228You right I misquoted you. Not on purpose I promise. You can make as many jokes about kumbaya as much as you like, but I truly pray we can come together as a nation, much like after 911
He had my vote
no worries shawn
November 15, 2008 - 20:39 ET by porpoiseboyi just don't want someone to read i said something i didn't. as far as 911 goes......come together for what? a few months? then the left was back stronger than ever...they used it to go after bush for the rest of his term. in cali (where we both live) the people democratically voted into law an constitutional amendment which is immediately being violently protested by some who are almost exclusively on the left. so i my opinion the "coming together" will need to come from the left moving more to the center not the other way around which seems to be what you imply quite often....dude i am not coming over to their side, it would require i park my belief system at the door...not gonna happen!
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
ppb
November 16, 2008 - 10:05 ET by shawn228After 911 we were truly united as nation. George Bush had close to a 90 percent approval rating.
IMO George Bush did a fantastic job bringing this country together and making this country feel at ease during a very scary time in the history of our country.
I remember it lasting for longer than 2 months as well. I am not going to argue with you if the Invasion with Iraq was the right thing to do or not, but that is the reason that George Bush lost the support of the liberals. It just kept going downhill from there.
He had my vote
If you recall it lasting
November 16, 2008 - 10:27 ET by BDIf you recall it lasting longer than a few moments you are wearing rosy colored glasses.
Some members of the left immediately called for the US to atone for its actions that caused 9/11. THe most memorable being the young man who had lost his father in the WTC attacks who went on the O'Reilly show and wanted to bad mouth both is nation and his father. As I recall, O'Reilly threw him off the set.
About that same time the loony leftist "9/11 Truthers" came out and accused their own fellow americans of concocting an attack on US Citizens in a political move.
THat was not an isolated event as I also recall members of the left demanding that we not invade Afghanistan, claiming that it would end up with hundreds of thousands of US casualties in a debacle, much like what they claimed in the run up to Desert Storm.
WHile the initial invasion was going on these same leftists members claimed we were mowing down villagers and that we should atone for our actions that caused 9/11.
THen they seemed to disappear after 12-14 ODA effectively routed the Tali's and shoved them into Pakistan.
What would have kept the left firmly on the side of the angels? Much like tghe europeans they would have been only happy if we had gone into an endless series of national self flagilation regarding Western Civilization. Liberals LOVE that stuff.
BD
November 16, 2008 - 10:55 ET by shawn228Yes I remember the 911 truthers. Not many people including I would say the majority of the left take them seriously including President Clinton and even one of the most rabid leftist Bill Maher.
There was a little resistance to Afghanistan, but Bush still had support of the majority of Americans. Sorry BD not until the Iraq invasion did his popularity go down
Even during the invasion, Bush had our support. It was not until after the "Mission accomplished" banner and it was the official postiion of the Bush administration that there were no WMD, that the support eroded.
He had my vote
shawn
November 15, 2008 - 20:40 ET by TN MomI am not denying that Obama used race in his campaign
Obama used the race card early & OFTEN. He should be called on it! The MSM is responsible for one-sided reporting of racism.
96% of African-Americans voted for Obama...because they liked his policies? Because he is liberal??
The msm was very much in
November 16, 2008 - 11:19 ET by shawn228The msm was very much in the bag for Obama, but I do not believe it is right to just point fingers at them, the GOP has to accept some of the blame as well.
He had my vote
You libs kill me
November 16, 2008 - 01:00 ET by jefflebowskiOhhhh NOOOOOOO....not a noose!!!! It's like....kryptonite!!! Ahhhhh. NOOOOO....not racist graffiti!!!!!!! It's killing all the blacks!!!!!!!
You people...especially Californians are really so brainwashed over this race thing. Especially when I guaran-damn-tee you that 99.9% of these incidents are fake...like they always are!
Also, its not racism...its realism. Our judgments are made up from life experience. Racism is just a word made up to keep blacks down and white people feeling sorry for them.
Jeff Lebowski
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Ohhhh NOOOOOOO....not a noose!!!!
November 16, 2008 - 09:47 ET by shawn228I would take that with a grain of salt, but you are one of those posters I notice that constantly give comments with racist undetones. With your racist names for people that wear turbans to the way you say its hard for you to trust black politicians in general.
"Also, its not racism...its realism. Our judgments are made up from
life experience. Racism is just a word made up to keep blacks down and
white people feeling sorry for them".
Could you please clarify your comment for me Jeff? Are you saying that racism is made up?
He had my vote
Good morning Shawn
November 16, 2008 - 10:14 ET by cocodrieHope you've beenwell. Racism will never die in this country as long as the left-wing extremist democrat party promotes it through their pawns Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters and all the rest keep stirring the pot. Most of racism is made up by these irresponsible people for power and wealth. All the black politicians elected and appointed by republicans to the supreme court and other positions of authority are respected by everyone except by the democrats mentioned above. As for the ragheads you mentioned - they can look for respect when they cease murdering people all over the world.
Good morning Cocodrie
November 16, 2008 - 10:22 ET by shawn228I am not denying that Democrats use the race card. Liberals always play that game and it is getting tired. I agree with you one hundred percent.
However, my question to Jeff was for him to explain what he means by racism is not real but in a nut shell manufactured.
Also Cocodrie, I find the term "raghead" to be extremely insulting. Not all Muslims murder people and the majority of them are peaceful. Muslims as well as many "Indians" who are not our enemies consider the "turban" sacred, just like Christians consider the cross sacred.
He had my vote
Shawn
November 16, 2008 - 10:56 ET by cocodrieI meant it to be an insult. Islam is not a peaceful religion. The koran is filled with insults and calls for all manner of violence towards christians and jews. Anyone who follows the koran is calling for their violent extermination. No muslim can be peaceful if his guiding doctrine calls for him to do violence.
I actually agaree with you Cocodrie
November 16, 2008 - 11:00 ET by shawn228I have my quams with this religion as well. I am saying I am not comfortable with the term "raghead" or "towelhead". It is a very degrading term.
You will also see people in India wearing turbans as well. They are not our enemies and have helped us in the WOT.
He had my vote
It's best to watch what we say here.
November 16, 2008 - 11:05 ET by mizflame98There is no problem discussing race, religion, etc. But we must take care as to what we say. The last thing we need on this site is to stoop to the level of the vile people on the Daily Kos. We will be no better than they if we start throwing out terms like rag head, camel washers, etc. Let's keep our discussions mature please.
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Thank you mizflame
November 16, 2008 - 11:10 ET by shawn228I agree one hundred percent :-)
He had my vote
Good morning mizflame
November 16, 2008 - 11:23 ET by cocodrieThese people who violenty murder their daughters for not wearing a turban or for speaking to a boy deserve respect?
Good Morning Cocodrie
November 16, 2008 - 11:46 ET by mizflame98I never said that we must respect those who commit such atrocities. I'm just saying that using names that can be considered racial ephitets shouldn't be done. Persecute the individual, not the race/culture.
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Their culture and religion
November 16, 2008 - 11:59 ET by cocodrieTheir culture and religion is the problem. The koran and their cultural beliefs call for them to commit violent murder and rape in the name of allah. Any failure to live by the violence set forth in the koran is punishable by death. Individual muslims approve of torture, rape, murder and violence by being part of this religion.
Some, not all muslims.
November 16, 2008 - 12:23 ET by mizflame98Some, not all muslims. But the fact remains, I'm not going to hold a whole group of people accountable for the honor killings of some. If that's the case then the liberals have every right to hold us Christians accountable for the nut-jobs who bomb abortion clinics or shoot abortion doctors in the head.
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mizflame
November 16, 2008 - 12:35 ET by cocodrieChristianity forbids violence, rape, and murder. Anyone doing these things are not christian. The koran demands that followers of allah rape, torture and murder all christians and jews they meet. This does not sound very peaceful to me.
That may be, but
November 16, 2008 - 13:25 ET by mizflame98That may be, but Christianity has been perveted to suit people's own goals. Religion in general isn't impervious to perversion. Look, I'm not trying to defend Islam. I haven't read the Quoran so I can't comment on that. I'm just pointing out that just like there are some Christians that don't follow the scripture to the letter, there are also Muslims that don't follow the scriptures to the letter as well. Muslims who practice honor killings are whack jobs. Christians who feel they must dance with poisonous snakes and allow their children to do the same are also whack jobs. The fact remains, I'm not going to condemn a whole cizilization because of some of the whack jobs. And I'm definately not going to use racial ephitets to describe said whack jobs.
Just consider this: we can't complain about liberals waging a war on Christmas while condemning a whole religion. That is not the Lord's way.
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OK, there are indeed people
November 15, 2008 - 20:27 ET by RR GOPOK, there are indeed people out there like that. But, the Left has been getting a ton of mileage off of them for decades. I've seen far more documentaries and articles throughout the years about the KKK and the neo-Nazis than I have about the WU and the Black Panthers. I've never seen any on the CPUSA, the Venona Files, etc. though not all of those are racial in nature I'm mentioning them as part of the Leftist bias. If they are out there, I'd surely watch them.
It's all despicable. But the coverage is simply one-sided and blown out of all proportion.
Also, racism originating from minority groups is ignored and even justified.
Just like Ayers and the WU are excused because of Vietnam, but McVeigh was not because of Waco. Both deserve the same abhorrence.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Some still don't get it
November 15, 2008 - 21:20 ET by iveseenitallAmerica will not unify until the anger and resentment about this election no longer exist. Americans are a fair people. I believe they abhor unfairness. Millions of Americans watched Barry get elected, not only because he talked well, though that helped, but also because his lack of qualifications for the job were ignored. They also watched illegal money flowing like an Al Capone re-run. They still suspect voter fraud. They watched a media refuse to meet its Constitutional responsibiltiy to vet him and his "associates" the way they have all other candidates in American history. Americans had and still have the feeling that something was inherently wrong in this campaign. More people still know nothing about Obama as those who know something. Throughout the campaign, the man appeared to have to be shoved down people's throats. All because he was to be the first black president. No, this does not excuse violence or racism. But, just as with violence, racism brings racism. As I have said, to use race to get someone ahead causes anger and resentment. And that resentment and anger, fueled by racism and basic unfairnees, will not simply go away because "liberals" now claim to want unity. I, too, would like to see a nation united. But I know we now have a nation more divided than ever before. "Liberals" will tell you to support Barry when he does the right thing. However, they will also tell you to support him when he does wrong. And they will ignore what he does wrong, to the detriment of the nation. There were not many second chances for President Bush. But because he is black and inexperienced, Barry will enjoy as many chances as his "supporters" are sure to give him. Again, unfairness and racism will rule the day. America is in deep soup, hanged on its own "liberal" petard.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Threats and Crimes
November 16, 2008 - 10:14 ET by iveseenitallBecause of "liberal" relativism, "threats" and "crimes" by minority groups have been ignored for decades. But now the chickens are coming home to roost. For example, because they have watched for years as crimes by blacks were excused due to race, and feel they now have a legitimate issue, we are witnessing incidents from gays who believe they can harass old ladies with whom they disagree. What's next? Forget the merits of the issue for a moment, I am sure that part of it is, "if they can do it, so can we." "Liberals" long ago decided they could pick and choose what is a "crime" and what is not. Barry Obama wants these moral relativists on the Supreme Court and in other courts throughout the land. He wants judges who can show "empathy" where they should rather be upholding the law. As I said, America will hang on its own "liberal" petard.
NEVER NEVER trust a "liberal"
oops, I guess the AP missed
November 15, 2008 - 23:04 ET by TN Momoops, I guess the AP missed this one (found at gatewaypundit).
Meanwhile in Mississippi... A 19 year-old man was arrested for sending threatening e-mails with racial overtones to students at several universities.
Dyron Hart, who is black, posed as a white male upset with Barack Obama's presidential victory.
The Daily Comet reported:
A former Nicholls State University student was arrested by federal agents in Mississippi in connection with threatening electronic messages sent to students at Nicholls and other schools through a popular networking Web site.
Dyron Hart, 19, of Poplarville, Miss., who was arrested Wednesday, allegedly told investigators he wanted to create a “reaction” when he sent Facebook “friends” across three states a message stating he planned to kill 3,000 people, including them, in the wake of Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential victory Nov. 4.
The messages were sent early Nov. 5.
The message recipients, like Hart, are black. But authorities said he gave the impression in the messages, sent under another name, that he was white.
La la la, non-issue, go away
November 16, 2008 - 00:35 ET by SRPwrdLa la la, non-issue, go away now please. *Buries head in sand*
Every politician nowadays
November 16, 2008 - 01:18 ET by maggieqpublicEvery politician nowadays lives with the threat of danger, and it isn’t right. However, I refuse to start barking like a trained seal just because the AP chooses to write another piece about right-wing hatred. The AP’s selective outrage is tiresome, and I’m still waiting to hear an explanation for their 8-yr silence regarding our President. (Anyone ever hear somebody say they wish something would happen to Bush….. except then we’d have Cheney….. hahahahahaha. Just a harmless joke. Right. Or how about some of those anti-Bush bumper stickers….hahahaha.)
As someone pointed out above…. how about the anti-Proposition 8 demonstrators in California. If you think anyone who has been ‘outed’ as a Prop 8 supporter is not living in fear of physical danger… well, think again. There are business owners and private citizens who are petrified because a bunch of thugs are taking exception to the way many chose to mark their ‘secret’ ballots.
Hoaxes
November 16, 2008 - 04:56 ET by needleApparently some of these “crimes” have been flushed out as hoaxes:
http://gatewaypundit...
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Since Obama has been elected, does that mean ALL the Retreaded p
November 16, 2008 - 08:45 ET by BDWant to know what the election of Obama has TRULY spurred? THe old lefty protestors with nothing serious to say are resurfacing.
I was just told by a friend that the "School of Americas Watch" protest group will be staking out the front gate here at Fort Huachuca in Arizona this morning to protest the US Army facility in Georgia that trains future military leaders from freindly governments in such things as the Geneva Convention.
The last time I heard of the School of the Americas Watch was in the 1980's when the US Government was successfully training pro-democracy government troops from Central American countries in how to effectively cope with murderous insurgents, How did the School of the Americas Watch try to help this situation, by attempting to attack students at Fort Benning at the actual school by pouring blood on them and calling them murderers.
Most were arrested while attempting to infiltrate the georgia post.
Logic never being a watchword of the lefty types, emotion being all that is necessary, they will try to impead traffic and put out a message against a facility 2000+ miles away by protesting at a facility far - far away.
It will be interesting to see if the national news covers this, and if so, compare it to the coverage from the local Sierra Vista Herald.
In the past the SV Herald has been fairly responsible in its coverage of the idiots who protest that the US Army is training its soldiers to torture here at this Southern Arizona facility.
Since Obama has been elected, does that mean ALL the Retreaded protest groups of past decades will now resurface? God I hope not.
You know what?
November 16, 2008 - 18:46 ET by ChesterBogusThis is BS.
George Bush's foreign
policy was this: you're either with us or against us. He defined the
world in terms of "Axis of Evil" and "Other." This man defined
divisiveness. Looking back, I can tell you that George Bush was a very
major reason that I stopped feeling like an American in college -
because I was not "with" Bush, therefore, according to him, I was
against him. And you know who else made me feel that way? The people
around me. Because Bush said it, it came into common usage. It became
the attitude of the people. When I studied Islam, I found that I was
suddenly "against" the people around me. When I said, "Hey, maybe war
isn't awesome," I found that I was suddenly "against" America. When I
tried to explain that, "Hey, that's not what the word 'jihad' means," I
found that I was suddenly "against" everything America stood for.
In
other words, thanks to George Bush's rhetoric and narrow-minded,
divisive attitude, I was made to feel that I had no place, no value, no
meaning in my own home country. I left the country because no matter
where I turned, no matter who I talked to, I was faced with Bush's
empty, macho rhetoric. His attitude trickled down into the masses and
became the public attitude.
Barack Obama, in his
first speech as President-Elect did nothing but praise John McCain, and
you know what? His audience cheered the man's name and heroic record.
Think about that. For eight years, Bush made Americans feel like
strangers in their own homeland. He drained the patriotism out of us as
he started new and pointless wars, and then pointed a finger at us for
suggesting it might have been a bad idea. People like me were shunned
and reviled for what? Having enough knowledge and intelligence to know
that Islam is more complex than the media portrayed it to be? To have
enough historical insight to know that ANY war meant to be over by
Christmas will last at least ten years? I mean, during the Bush
administration, public policy was to laugh at intelligence and common
sense, ignore it or revile it.
Within minutes of gaining the Presidency, Barack Obama is praising
his opponent and telling us that we are one America. We are neither
with nor against, because we are already together.
Which message was the more divisive?
WOW Chester
November 16, 2008 - 19:05 ET by cocodrieYou must have had ADDS in college. You got President Bush's message all confused. You also must have slept through all your classes on Islam. Islam declared WAR on us. Are you sure you didn't go to college in Iran?
George Bush's foreign
November 17, 2008 - 15:45 ET by BDGeorge Bush's foreign policy was this: you're either with us or against us. He defined the world in terms of "Axis of Evil" and "Other." This man defined divisiveness.
Looking back, I can tell you that George Bush was a very
major reason that I stopped feeling like an American in college - because I was not "with" Bush, therefore, according to him, I was against him.
When I studied Islam, I found that I was suddenly "against" the people around me. When I said, "Hey, maybe war isn't awesome,"
When I tried to explain that, "Hey, that's not what the word 'jihad' means," I found that I was suddenly "against" everything America stood for.
In other words, thanks to George Bush's rhetoric and narrow-minded, divisive attitude, I was made to feel that I had no place, no value, no meaning in my own home country.
I left the country because no matter where I turned, no matter who I talked to, I was faced with Bush's empty, macho rhetoric. His attitude trickled down into the masses and became the public attitude.
Barack Obama, in his first speech as President-Elect did nothing but praise John McCain, and you know what? His audience cheered the man's name and heroic record.
Think about that. For eight years, Bush made Americans feel like strangers in their own homeland.
He drained the patriotism out of us as he started new and pointless wars,
People like me were shunned and reviled for what?
Having enough knowledge and intelligence to know
that Islam is more complex than the media portrayed it to be?
To have enough historical insight to know that ANY war meant to be over by Christmas will last at least ten years?
I mean, during the Bush administration, public policy was to laugh at intelligence and common sense, ignore it or revile it.
Within minutes of gaining the Presidency, Barack Obama is praising his opponent and telling us that we are one America.