Obama Supporter Maims McCain Volunteer, Will Media Care?

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UPDATE AT END OF POST: Todd admits to making this all up.

A truly gruesome attack occurred in a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, suburb Wednesday evening, and given the political overtones, it's going to be very interesting to see how this disgusting incident gets reported by Obama-loving media.

A 20-year-old female McCain campaign volunteer was mugged at an ATM by an unknown assailant who got very angry when he noticed that her car had a McCain-Palin bumper sticker on it (photo courtesy Hot Air).

According to CBS4.com that's when things really got ugly (h/t NBer mattm, KDKA CBS TV News video report embedded below the fold):

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Pittsburgh police are investigating after a volunteer for the Republican campaign says she was attacked by a mugger who became enraged after seeing a John McCain bumper sticker on her car last night.

According to police, the 20-year-old woman said she was robbed at an ATM at the corner of Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street in the Bloomfield area around 9pm Wednesday after leaving a Republican phone bank.

The woman told police that the suspect, described only as a dark-skinned African-American man about 6'4", stole $60 from her and became enraged after seeing a bumper sticker supporting Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain on her car.

The woman said the suspect punched and kicked her before knocking her the ground.

The McCain camp tells CBS station KDKA-TV that the victim is a 20-year-old Republican from Texas.

According to a campaign spokesperson, after seeing her bumper sticker supporting McCain, the suspect said, 'Oh you're with McCain, you're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson.'"

After repeatedly hitting, kicking and threatening the woman, the McCain camp says the suspect carved a "B" in her cheek for "Barack" Obama.

Wow! Think you'll hear much about this in the coming days?

If your answer is "No," with respects to John Grisham, imagine for a moment the assailant was a white McCain supporter, and the victim a young, black, Obama campaign volunteer.

*****Update: Hot Air has the woman's photo.

*****Update 2: Additional video reports about this issue follow:

And:

*****Update 3: Todd admits she made the whole thing up:

Police sources tell KDKA that a campaign worker has now confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter "B" in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker. [...]

This afternoon, a Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Todd confessed to making up the story.

The commander added that Todd will face charges; but police have not commented on what those charges will be.   

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What I Fear Most

Is Charles Manson correct in his prophecy about the uprising.

you are not really putting

you are not really putting any credance into something charlie manson said..you are being facecious right

If the name of this woman

If the name of this woman gets out and the mainstream media feel they just have to report the incident, they will give her the Joe the Plumber Treatment and declare the woman faked the whole thing or make fun of the victiom and feel sorry for the mugger.

McNotObama '08

That is a really good point,

That is a really good point, and probably why we haven't seen anything about it yet on those other networks. They haven't fully "vetted" the woman yet.

If it gets too big to

If it gets too big to ignore, they'll be looking for handwriting samples of the woman's to match with the "B" carved on her face. Whatever they do, there will be no intimation made to how the Obama campaign has lead to hate and violence - unlike those "Nazis" - McCain and Palin. We should perish that thought immediately.

McNotObama '08

Yeah, but this shows the

Yeah, but this shows the blatant hypocrisy and bias with the msm, they would never have creamed Joe, or this worker, or all the other incidents that have happened to repubs since this race started...they would be after the other party, stick up for the victim or political candidate, on and on...

This is not right!

Something has to be done with the msm...

I don't know what...but something does.

This is outrageous what they are getting away with...hells bells, you can't even use the word socialistic now when referring to the socialists...especially their Leader.

Pravda indeed...just like Newt said.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt, If I was still in

bt,

If I was still in North Carolina, I would be tempted to travel to an outdoor network live broadcast area in Washington DC to picket - like they did to NBC at the RNC. As it is, I'm stuck in small sleepy suburban village of Albuquerque that has never seen and will never see anyone from a network reporting from here.

McNotObama '08

about the msm

the only way the msm will ever fall back in line is IF conservative leadership takes over one of the big 3 networks.  the same thing that happed on cable (Fox becoming #1) will happen over the airwaves.  then the other 2 would have no choice but to move more to the center unless they want to keep loosing viewers. perhaps the other 2 will just move even further to the left like CNN and MSNBC a.k.a. DNC tv. 

-ascended conservative

BT, and one more thing...

It's all brought to you by the party of tolerance and diversity! Let's hope and pray the FNC rides this right up until election day.

"Don't crush that dwarf! Hand me the pliers!" - Firesign Theatre

Evening gt... One can

Evening gt...

One can hope...

I'm getting ready to check other neteworks, had it on msnbc for a long time, CNN, still haven't heard anything, getting ready to go to Fox and see...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Her name is out

I was on another site and saw the same report.  They gave her name as Ashley Todd.  Poor girl, you know that she is in for a media frenzy....The other site had mostly supportive comments but also some horrible comments. 

Chris...

She faked it.

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

So did the reporters who

So did the reporters who indicated that McCain/Palin rally's were racially oriented.  Will the press cover THAT as well?

Spin it, BD...

BD,

Spin it. Spin, spin, spin...Race-baiting is part of this story.  If the MSM latches this story to the McCain/Palin ticket as Fox has mentioned...it's over.

"If Ms. Todd’s allegations are proven accurate, some voters may
revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists
(with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel
they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting"- John Moody, Executive Vice President of FoxNews

OUCH!

 Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

No need for spin. More

No need for spin.

More racism is in evidence on the liberal side, but not that that matters since they own the airwaves to most extent.

Hmmm,

So, is this what obama meant when he said "get in their faces"?

The tolerant left. Yeah right.  

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Obama "men"

Do all the Obama "men" choose women to brutalize? Here in Florida, a woman's house windows were shot out because she's a McCain volunteer. A woman was attacked on the streets of New York--with her own McCain sign. A McCain woman in Texas got a visit from the Secret Service. Now this. Weather Barry wins or loses, this is only the beginning. He's got the jackboots at the ready. The Bill of Rights is going to be under assault if, God forbid, Barry wins. Mark my words.

BTW, carving a "B" into a woman's face is torture. I thought the "liberals" were against torture? Not if its done on Republicans, I guess.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Ives

And the media gets some blame in this as well. Look at the way they have treated Sarah. It's been brutal, and the differences between men and women seem to fade. If Sarah can be attacked so brutally by the press, then...

Most guys see women on a pedestal of sorts, but guys like this mugger see them as something to be humiliated. That kind of outlook has been on display in the media in regards to Sarah since she was anounced.  

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

I haven't seen any brutal

I haven't seen any brutal treatment of Palin.   Every critique she's received has been well deserved.

The Newsbusters are the only people still pretending that she has any sort of legitimacy.  It's getting a little absurd. 

She's a joke.  She was not vetted.  McCain went against his so-called 'maverick' instincts and bowed down to the CNP. 

Now he's paying for it and he knows it.  Self-respecting Americans don't buy the Palin hype.  Her political career is over, as it should be.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Ginger,

Ya know what? Forget it. You aren't worth my time. 

 "This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Can you name one attack that

Can you name one attack that was unwarranted? She's a moron. Clear as day and she's been called out for it. She lies and when she isn't lying she's incoherent.

To Support Palin is to lie to your better judgment.

to TheGingerman

to be honest, i pity you... you seem to have already been enslaved by the left.  i will pray for you sir.

"this year i'm voting republican.  not becuase i support John McCain, but because i support Sarah Palin.  thank God she's only a heart beat away from the presidencey."

-ascended conservative

IN THE REAL WORLD

 I simply cannot vote for the #1 and #3 liberals in congress..
that means
I do not support tax increases- over spending-blame America policies-
old Carter ideas..
and that is how it
is...the rest are DIVERSIONS...(the topic-shifting, profanity and
juvenile personal attacks)
to fog up the
reality that liberalism destroys any country it infects.
Look who prefers these liberals...thug dictators,
hollyweirdos and Iran!
No liberals, no kidding.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Clueless

A GOVERNOR with an 85% approval rating is a moron?    You are absolutely CLUELESS.  

How about you name one attack that IS warranted.   Clearly, YOU are the one who is full of lies and when you are not lying, you would have to take the express elevator just to reach the level of incoherence.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Sarah Palin Treatment

I guess the "Sarah Palin is a C**t" t-shirts comprise legitimate political discourse? 

 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-a-cnt-where-is-the-media/

I think (almost) every time the msm combines a Sarah Palin reference with the word "mistake", "problem", etc., they've crossed the line from reporting to commentating.  For me, these warrant the label of "attack", however subtle.

"Luge strategy? Lie flat and try not to die." C. Boyle (Olympic Luge Gold Medal winner 1996)

My better judgement, as

My better judgement, as well as my "better half," both lead me to support Palin.  And to call her a "moron" is beyond moronic.

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

edgar allen poe was

edgar allen poe was great!!!!!

Totally.

Totally.

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

What reasoned logic

Me: I didn't vote for Obama because of his Socialist approaches to the economy and his desire to make America a global pushover. 

You: Gov Palin is a "moron" and "she lies".  Yeah, that's a very reasoned, logical argument.  What, why did you leave out " f$!king b!#$h"?  Because of your sense of decency? 

Try this:

Governor Palin went to the AOR to visit the troops under her command in the field.  Your Socialist God had to be dragged there kicking and screaming.  What's sad about that is that Your Socialist God actually votes on matters military, from budgets to flag rank promotions.   

One of them on that move alone has demonstrated leadership.  That one person sure the hell isn't Obama.

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

please don t take this as an

please don t take this as an attack but the troops in iraq are under command of the lead guy in iraq..they are federalized when they are sent there...

gingerman obvious idiot

the only pathological liar in the race is joe biden.  FACT....i have seen the video.

joe biden has lied about the circumstances of the tragic deaths of his first wife & daughter.  you can find the video on the net of him alluding to them having been killed by a drunk driver "although i never pursued it" ( his words ).  first, the facts are that his wife turned in front of an oncoming big rig with the sun in her eyes.  fact, the family of the now deceased man who drove that rig has asked biden to retract those statements that have devastaed their family.  to no avail.

second, IF ( although absolutely not true ) they had been killed by a drunk driver and biden thought so, what kind of person would not pursue action to take the killer of his wife and child off the road?!?!  the only reason biden has done these things is because of some sort of sick sense that it will gain him some sort of political sympathy in some circles.  tell me something lower than that!  then you have BHO....every time he starts a sentence with  "i've always said".....he lies.  for instance, "i've always said that the surge worked beyond our wildest dreams".....this was on oreilly and was the first time he had ever admitted that.  btw, he did admit he was wrong on the surge, just that it worked.  how's that work?

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

One attack [on Palin] that

One attack [on Palin] that wasn't warrented:

Attacks on her child, by accusing Palin's daughter of bearing the baby.

BTW, Gingerbread, only a moron would have asked that question. And I'm only listing one attack, as requested. I could list dozens more, but I'm afraid you can only handle one at a time.

___________________________________ 

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Gingerman: Please list

Gingerman:

Please list the lies you reference.  Then please compare them to various untruths told by the left side of the aisle about her.

Also, please list your rationale for calling her a "Moron."

BD

BD..Please let me know if Ginger comes back!!

I'm not finished with him yet. I paid 25 cents...I have not gotten my money's worth yet!!

Ginger!!!! I WANT TO PLAY!!! HELLO???

Ster.

I am fairly certain

I am fairly certain "Gingerman" is a burn identity.  We likely willnot see him again in this guise.

Gingerman must live in a fairytale world

How else could he have missed the unfair coverage of Sarah Palin. The woman is the most popular governor in the country and has more experience than the community organizer from Chicago, yet gingerman doesn't believe she is legitimate. Incredible. He probably also believes that Joe "Chia Pet" Biden is a genius.

WAS the most popular

WAS the most popular governor...before people knew what was going on with her. 

Can you honestly say you think she is qualified to hold any sort of position of power?  I guess you've been hearing different interviews and speeches than I have, which is weird b/c that's impossible

Are you by chance

a 6'4" african american male?

Cause that hate you're spewing sounds a little demented.

 

In his own words (19 seconds):  This man is qualified to be VP?

Very intuitive of you

Very intuitive of you Blonde.   LOL.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Blonde....

SMACK!!!

Love,

Ster.

can she hold a position of

can she hold a position of power?  Yes, easily more qualified than Obama, Biden, and Obama.

What executive experience has Obama held?  Anyone? Anyone?   Bueller?

Gingerwuss,

Sarah Palin holds a position of power NOW, you government-schooled moron. 

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

newsflash

She already holds a position of power.

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

Qualified?

 

Is she Qualified?  You mean, as opposed to THIS guy?

Yeah, she's qualified! 

 

Besides, voting for Obama because Palin is not qualified is like voting for McCain because Biden is old!

 

Still, I find it sad that when a woman is attacked, robbed and has a B carved in her face because of her political beliefs, your response is to attack Palin.  Very typical of the left.  You should be so proud.

 

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."

--Ernesto "Che" Guevara

Gingersnap... You wrote:

Gingersnap...

You wrote: "Can you honestly say you think she is qualified to hold any sort of position of power?" YES-YES-YES!

She is miles ahead in qualifications than Obama, and she already has a much higher security clearnace than he does.

Greta Sticks Up For Sarah

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Wow

You haven't seen any brutal treatment of Palin?  Do you live in a cave?  Exactly why is she a joke?  Does it bother you so much that she has actually accomplished far more in her life than most of the politicians on either side?  Does it bother you that she won't play nice with the good ole boys or the media?  Are you that "sheep like" that you can't research her on your own without the media telling you what to believe? 

Don't accept her politics, critique her all you like, but facts are facts and the media should stick to the facts.  They have drug her and her family through the mud to get any bit of pathetic coverage they can on her.  It's a disgusting display of media gone wild.  As for the "Hype" I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Anything I have learned about her that is relevant to her job is impressive.  I don't agree with her on all points but I can give her credit for her accomplishments.  Please try to be more independent and find out for yourself rather than listen to the media.  The media is where the bad rubbish is.  To ignore the attacks makes you just as guilty. 

"Self-respecting" Americans

"Self-respecting" Americans like these I'm guessing are the type you're referring to who don't buy the Palin hype:

http://www.webtrec.c...

Liberals. Classy.

More like, morally and ethically bankrupt.

 

NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun

 

HUH?

You must be kidding! There are several venues that offer true journalism and have brought out much truth . . . and will continue to do so. You are absurd. Oh, and by the way, Christians are people, too--and you, as a so-called SELF-RESPECTING "AMERICAN" show no respect for anyone but SELF. The party of tolerance is the party of intolerance. The party of liberalism is the true party of fascism and liberalism. Please, if you must vote in tyranny (that will one day cost you as well), at least admit that's what you're up to . . . yes, stop drinking the laced Kool-Aid.

what the heck can you be

what the heck can you be thinking..attacking the poor sainted sarah palin..she has never done anything wrong ,is the best vp candidate we have ever had,does a great andy of mayberry impersonation...i bet you hope that on nov 5,she is headed back to sewards folly like a whipped pit bull with lipstick!!

watch how quick this subject

watch how quick this subject is dropped here now the the young lady admits it is all a hoax...this could torpedo the mmccain presidency..it will be back to poor sarah

Restless 1

So true. And I was just thinking how much haters like Olbermann, Matthews, et.al. in the MSM have driven hatred in our nation. And they take absolutely no reponsibility for their words. Disgusting!

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Exactly RESTLESS!!!

We now see Obama's direct order to his flock "get in their faces" coming to fruition.  I had a gut feeling this would happen....only a matter of time, and his looney followers commit robbery, mayhem, and physical assault acting on their messiahs orders.  Boy, Barky must be proud!! 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Coincidence

And you think Barack could have done anything about this?

 It's a coincidence.

BHO has already condoned

BHO has already condoned the acts of thugs such a Bernadine Doehrn and Bill Ayers previously as well as served as a coordinator with the group ACORN.

Seems he is oriented to allow for such.

What could be done?

And you think Barack could have done anything about this?


It's a coincidence.

Let's see, he could have started by NOT saying, "Get in their faces".  Now the B from Barack is going to be in this lady's face for the rest of her life.

But since that is gone, he could offer up a reward for the thug who did this.  He has over $600,000,000 in his election account.  Maybe he could put up a reward of $1,000,000?  That would be a start.  He could also give a million to the lady that has to live the rest of her life with Obama's first initial carved in her face and appologise.  How about if he said, "I don't want the support of this thug.  I am officially asking that my name be removed from the PA ballot if this thug is not found."  

These are some things that could be done.  So far, he's done nothing.

 

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."

--Ernesto "Che" Guevara

I was thinking the exact same thing

Perhaps tonight CNN, NBC, CBS, and ABC will make the connection between the Messiah's order to his "Corpos" and the attack on this poor young woman. Yes, I know it will never happen. But just imagine if it had been McCain who said "get in their faces" and an Obama volunteer being attacked. We all know how that would be treated by these corrupt members of the MSM.

Noel...thank you so

Noel...thank you so much for posting this...I have been infuriated with the silence from the msm regarding this outrage...msnbc are still going on about Palin's clothes and how done it is for McC with the polls...

OF COURSE THIS WOULD BE BREAKING NEWS on ALL the NIGHTLY NEWS SHOWS and 24/7 on CABLE if this was reversed!

Color me beet red with anger about the silence and hypocrisy.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

October suprise -- THE CLOTHES

You're right about the 24/7 coverage, BT. Dammit, Palin's clothes are 24/7 on all the networks and cable shows and newspapers. The msm is so out of touch that they actually think the clothes are the October surprise they have all been waiting for to bring McCain down.

___________________________________ 

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Obamaniacs

 I have been stalked, email removed in Yahoo accounts, researched, and written about by Obama supporters.

One was a black African kook living in France. I have had enough contacts with others in various problems from their information posted to having their lives threatened by Obama people that the term maniac is sound.

An elderly woman in New York was beat up by an Obama kook just last week.

Allot of people have begged the FBI to do something about their cases of being terrorized by Obama's madhouse and yet the FBI just sits on the cases.

That is one reason I'm called the enigma by the maniacs and why I wonder often just why is it none of the Conservative voices being paid huge bucks called any attention to this when Lawrence Sinclair was being brutalized.

To repeat, Larry Sinclair for going public he sucked on something Obama and did coke with him has had his life threatened, his mother's life threatened, the Obama camp and Biden syndicate had him arrested on a bogus charge in Delaware by Biden's own kid who is AG, they then threatened him with life imprisonment on a misdemeanor AND NO ONE ON THE RIGHT SAID A WORD.

Mr. Sinclair was brutalized in the custody of DC, FBI and Federal Marshals in league with the Justice Department DC prosecutor, who lost him in jail, denied him his medications as he has a brain tumor and nerve damage and his attorney couldn't find him as they denied Mr. Sinclair his phone.

Terrorists in Gitmo get better treatment than Lawrence Sinclair.

Yet not one word from Conservatives on this. Not one word so all these kooks now are beating up on women carving letters into their skin.

I hold Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Ingraham and those on this site who never once took the information given them about what Obama's maniacs were doing to bring pressure on Justice to stop it for the attack on this young woman in Pennsylvania.

That attack and others of late happened because you sat on your hands along with Joseph Farah in what looked like a whispering campaign as it was ok to get the gay guy. Well my German friends, they  came for the Jews first and then they came for the Germans second in the Nazi ranks.
Now young girls are being carved on because you people never raised a flag of protest when it was happening to someone else.

I don't support the gay deathstyle as it harms them, but I will support any American for speaking out. It is shameful in Lawrence Sinclair carried the burden and the water for the GOP in hammering Obama all summer while the big shots all got their paychecks.
Not even Newsbusters would interview him in Minneapolis at the GOP convention and Mr. Sinclair is one of the biggest supporters now of McCain and Palin.

Lawrence Sinclair warned everyone what Obama was up to and all the power sites shunned him. Now the blood is on all these people for the harm this young Lady has to endure with her entire life.

This woman wasn't isolated. She is the tip of the Obamaniac thugs.

 

agtG

 

 

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Lame

My google was hijacked last week!  When I try to google words with Obama the results show foxnews.com, cnn.com. etc, but if you click on any, they either go to Obama's web Donation Page or weird yellow page/info sites. 

 

 

Feel the Unity

Caution - Acorn at work.

This is a nonstory.  Wacko

This is a nonstory.  Wacko supporters on both sides have committed these types of crime. 

Furthermore, if the attack was so gruesome why didn't she need any medical attention?  Just curious.  Figure a carving in someone's face would require a stich or two. 

Let's just call this what it is.  A desperate attempt by Drudge to spin some sort of negative story about Obama.  He's been trying so hard in recent weeks.

It's a shame he has no influence anymore.

I agree. It's a total shame

I agree. It's a total shame the girl did not need plastic surgery. It's the least the thug could have done to get out the "message."

F you. 

So right, Gingerman

So right. EVERBODY does these things. But please don't cry or yell for help when they come for you and your family.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

 

Please.  Obama has nothing

Please.  Obama has nothing to do with a criminal robbing someone.  You're really stretching here as people who know they are going to lose often do.  I've accepted defeat and I'll do so gracefully - you should do the same.  We Republicans deserve to lose.  Worst campaign ever.

You'll excuse calls at McCain rallies to kill Obama, yet you'll whine about something like this.  Amazing.  Truly amazing.

Gingersnap... You wrote:

Gingersnap...

You wrote: "Obama has nothing to do with a criminal robbing someone." 

If he becomes our next president, I expect him to rob millions of people. It's the Socialist way you know!

Border Security Get’s Smart

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

McCain's mortgage buy-up

McCain's mortgage buy-up plan is more socialist than anything Obama is proposing.  Furthermore, didn't we just nationalize banks and bail out private companies?

You're ok with that socialism clearly, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Ginger...you troll

Ginger...you troll you...quit trying to derail the thread and what you said...you made light of what happened to this woman...get a grip and stick to the subject you troll...was this right or wrong...and should all of the msm report this like they would do if this was reversed...is there bias in the msm regarding just this woman and what happened and the silence from the msm..

answer the questions and quit derailing the subject of this blog post.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT, It appears to me

BT, It appears to me Gingertwit is one of those so called men that gets off on the abuse and torture of women. He needs to get professional help before it gets any worse and we hear about him being hauled off because he has become a danger to society. Of course he hopes Bambi gets elected because he stands a better chance of not serving any time because the liberal judges Bambi appoints will let him off because he is misunderstood.

McCains plan to purchase

McCains plan to purchase debt and possibly turn a future profit is more socialist than Obamas plan to redistibute wealth to those who do not pay taxes? 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!

the purchase of the debt is

the purchase of the debt is not being implemented as an investment vehicle..if they wanted to invest there were far better opportunities..it is a bailout pure and simple..one that may have been unavoidable..i did not support it as i do not beleive in socialism..and i lost hunderds of thousands of net worth because of it..but a rose by any other color is still a rose

Amazing!!

Riddle me this Gin-Gin...Which party controls congress.  Nothing goes forward unless the Dem's say it does.

We wouldn't be in this mess if it were not for Carter, ACORN, and the Dem's on the house committee. Hello Barny Frank and Chris Dodd.

Ster.

The Gingerman, thief extraordinaire

It really is too bad that you are too much of a coward to stick a gun in someone's face and steal from them. Because you want Obama to do it FOR you, legally.

Obama has PROMISED to slit my economic throat from ear to ear. Why? Because I was smart enough not to take out a mortgage I couldn't afford, and because I saved and invested wisely and prudently.

You seem perfectly content with a system of taxation that steals from the top 60% of wage earners, who pay 99.94% of the taxes, and then gives to the bottom 40% who pays the reaminder. That's crap. And that is why you and him are as gutless and cowardly as common theives.

Instead of stealing my money, or getting someone to do your stealing for your legally, get off your ass and get your own.

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

5% of 300 million...

15 million...yep, millions of people getting their taxes raised 3% to help this country get back on its feet. It's the least we can do to spread the wealth and give 95% of the people some relief. Paying taxes spreads the wealth...Are you against paying taxes?

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Theft spreads the wealth

Theft spreads the wealth too.   Oh... same thing... my bad.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

There's always the Gov't bailout...

Jerry,

...we can always print more...

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Paying taxes spreads the

Paying taxes spreads the wealth...

LOL-Is that what they taught you in government school?

Paying taxes only punishes the productive.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Dave...

Dave,

Your taxes go to paying for the unemployed workers who need money to pay for their food and shelter (How many weeks has it been so far...?) Also, taxes pay for programs to help you learn a new skill so you can get back on your feet. I want you to be productive and earn more so you can pay back into the system what you have taken from the system. Don't our taxes help fund the War and the soldiers who are fighting in it? Don't our taxes help senior citizens get the medical treatment they need? Don't our taxes help fill the potholes so we can get to work? 

 Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Uber, I am a supporter of the FairTax.

That is to say I was a supporter before most people had even heard of it.
As I see it, any other taxes collected, I mean, confiscated by the federal government, are done so unconstitutionally.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Another thief: Ubercon

You are just another thief who looks at the wealth of others and thinks you have every right to help yourself to it and steal as much of it as possible. 

Sorry, but you cannot give 95% of taxpayers a tax cut when it is ONLY the top 60% of wage earners that pay 99.94% of the taxes.  That leave the bottom, coddled 40% who pay .06% of the taxes. 

But that doesn't matter to Socialist parasites like you. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Read the story. Nobody said

Read the story.

Nobody said Obama or his campaign had ANYTHING to do with it in the least.

And the kill Obama crap was debunked days ago by the FBI. Try and keep up.

And this is not about "whining": how about if this happened to your daughter?

"Oh, c'mon Honey, stop, whining about that B he carved into your face." 

Um no SickOfLibs, one kill

Um no SickOfLibs, one kill Obama story was debunked.  The others can be clearly heard on YouTube.  It used to be easy to deny stories like that, unfortunately for you it's recorded clear as day.  Nice try though.

Ummm...Gin-Gin...

I can edit the audio on any video file in 5 minutes.  I find your arguments lacking.

Next!!!

Ster.

Ginger

You'll excuse calls at McCain rallies to kill Obama

The Secret Service checked this out and the only person who heard the threat was the REPORTER.  

Obama should apologize to the young lady at once (McCain apologized to her/her family) and call on ALL his supporters to stop any violence on his behalf.  

DING!!! I'm IN ON THIS!!!

Sooooo....GingerBOY....

Ummmm....Are you saying "She Asked For It"???

Bring It!!!

Ster.

Interesting.  I imagine

Interesting. 

I imagine the Obama rallies have a higher percentage of violent felons attending than the Palin/McCain rallies.  I think THAT would be an interesting research project for statistics students.

BD

you are correct!

Obama's pet ACORN hires felons. Who could forget ACORN using itimatidation tatics in bank lobbys to force the bank to make loans available to uncredit-worthy people. 

Can you imagine a police

Can you imagine a police cordon and sweep at an Obama rally? 

One can dream....

Hey Ginger...NEWSFLASH!

Didn'tcha hear?? The Secret Service checked out the "Kill Obama" nonsense, and determined it was a bogus charge.

Pay attention. 

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

WRONG

 Secret Service found NO evidence of anyone yelling "kill him" ...one lib reporter printed it...Obama creates an atmosphere..."get in their face"...he surrounded himself with far left kooks for 20 years...what is amazing is your ignorance-bias...permit me to summarize:

I simply cannot vote for the #1 and #3 liberals in congress..
that means
I do not support tax increases- over spending-blame America policies-
old Carter ideas..
and that is how it
is...the rest are DIVERSIONS...(the topic-shifting, profanity and
juvenile personal attacks)
to fog up the
reality that liberalism destroys any country it infects.
Look who prefers these liberals...thug dictators,
hollyweirdos and Iran!
No liberals, no kidding.
 

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Words matter


Please.  Obama has nothing to do with a criminal robbing someone

Obama said, "Get in their faces!" and "words matter". Well, Barak is going to be in this lady's face for the rest of her life.  Has he at least appologized?

 

 

 

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."

--Ernesto "Che" Guevara

You're the Wacko

Hey, Ginger

Read man, it's a police report.

http://www.pittsburg...

The young lady is an Aggie.  That's why she's not like you who need medical attention for an ant bite.

By the way, I challenge you to come up with ONE such wacko on McCain's side.  Just one.  Make my day.

Gig 'em.

You have no idea where I'm

You have no idea where I'm from so I'm not sure where you're going with this.  Assumptions are nice and easy though.

Oh attacks on Obama supporters?  I'll check it out.  I was thinking more about the Obama effigies hanging from nooses in McCain supporters yards and the violent calls to ACORN where people shouted for the lynching of all 'blue gums' and expressed glee at the idea of Black Americans hanging from trees.

Effigies are not PEOPLE IDIOT BOY

Show me ONE Obama supporter that has been lynched.....good luck in that MORON!!!!!!!!  Let alone beaten!!! Try finding that too genius!!! 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Please list each occurance

Please list each occurance of the events you mention with associated police reports.

The Secret service has discredited the "Kill Him"... stories at Plain Rallies.

Thus, you are simply "Baracking" Palin for false racism.

Been de-bunked dipstick!!!

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

what?

Are you stupid?  Even after someone said, "The Kill him thing was proven false", you post a link to the debunked story?

Wow!  They let you near a keyboard without and escort? 

 

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."

--Ernesto "Che" Guevara

AB.... "Wow! They let you

AB....

"Wow! They let you near a keyboard without and escort?"

Now that made my night!!!!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

laughing with or at?

bt,

Did you mean that you found ArcherB's comment funny as a put-down? Or because his word-choice makes it look like he should have an escort (as opposed to "and escort")?

nicky baby...I found Archer

nicky baby...I found Archer B's words hilarious.

Get a clue.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

oh--but hilarious and incorrect, right?

And here I was hoping you were trying to shame ArcherB into proofreading.

I mean, I don't want English to be our national language, but I would like it if people who can speak English learned how to write it a little better.

And these forums really do provide an excellent opportunity--low stakes, lots of readers--for people to become better writers. All it would take is for other people to correct them.

I would take that task up, but since many people here think I'm just a liberal troll who is never right about any political issues, I'm afraid any correcting I did would be similarly dismissed--it would be socialist syntax! Tax-and-spend spelling! Godless grammar! Pinko punctuation!

Nicky..Baby-kins...Sweethear

Nicky..Baby-kins...Sweetheart....

Screw U!

You have been nothing but a pain in the a$$ since you arrived here...and hopefully you will get the Ex-Lax treatment someday..... SOON...

But heck, doggone it, this is just from a dumb backwoods gal... carry on, as you always do...troll.

...and yes...you are a troll.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

ArcherB...Ginger is a bit slow on the uptake on this one, cuz...

It seems about 30 of us here have tried to enlighten him on the truth of this...

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

Prairie

What I don't understand since they are so much alike, is why Ubercon and Gingerman haven't eloped and gone off somewhere. They could go by the name Gubermem.

coco...

Who knows...It could still happen! 

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

Ginger

Ginger, seriously, stop being a hollow, empty debater and provide some links (youtube, news reports, police reports) with proof of:

 

  • shouts of "kill him/Obama" at McCain rallies
  • nooses in McCain-supporter yards
  • shouts of people at ACORN re: lynching and blacks hanging from trees

 

... and then we won't be wasting our time just going for your bait. We now have two terrible incidents involving violent attacks by Obama supporters of McCain supporters, both proven/documented. One here in NYC, one in Pittsburgh.

Otherwise, you'll continue to look foolish around here.... and more so with each post.

 

NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun

 

Ginger... Your post is

Ginger...

Your post is past pathetic as all of yours here ever have been.

You are sickening in my view.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt,Notice how the name

bt,

Notice how the screen name of this person - "The Gingerman" bears an uncanny resemblance to the nicknames newspapers give serial killers. 

McNotObama '08

Chris - The Gingerman is a

Chris - The Gingerman is a book written by J. P. Donleavy.  You should check it out.  Reading is beneficial.  It's a shame nobody ever told Palin about that fact.

Really? How very

Really? How very intellectual of you. Here, it still sounds like the name of a serial killer.  

McNotObama '08

I guess so.  Good one.

I guess so.  Good one.

Ginger... Go to hell and

Ginger...

Go to hell and back...I have had to either ignore or put up with your BS since you arrived here long ago now...I wish you gone.

You are just like all your leftist ilk...heartless, no-good socialistic b*st#rds.

You will never win...never...not in the long run..evil vs good never will win..you will lose.

Man.... I have got to take tomorrow off...the msm and the trolls here like Ginger are really pissing me off.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

The socialist attack is

The socialist attack is hilarious given recent developments under the Republican administration.

Relax.  You don't know me, why waste so much hate on a stranger?  Didn't your mother teach you to ignore those you dislike?  If not, she should have.

Fact is McCain is a weak candidate, Palin is a disaster, and Republicans deserve to lose.

How much more socialist can we really get? 

How much more socialist can

How much more socialist can we become?  I will Ask Pelosi, Reid, and Obama when they come for what is left in my wallet.

Don't give yourself so much

Don't give yourself so much credit Ginger...I don't hate you I despise you and your heartless, filthy ilk...more than anything...I pity you.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

And she calls herself a Christian?

G-man,

I find it astonishing to see so much hatred and rage in a person who claims to be a good Christian and a warm hearted loving mother. Wow...

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Evenin' bt.

Go to hell and back???

Nahh, I think he should stay there.  :-)

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Are we sure hell would even

Are we sure hell would even want him?

The devil has standards too!!

Hey Ginger... When was

Hey Ginger...

When was the last time you were a Governor of a state?

Border Security Get’s Smart

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Brief stint in the late

Brief stint in the late 1980s.  It was ok, but the private sector paid more.

States of mind do not

States of mind do not count.

Okay, Gingerbread Man.

Okay, Gingerbread Man. You've thrown your bombs and got the attention you were seeking. Now run, run away as fast as you can. 

McNotObama '08

Chris, ROFL!

That is perfect!

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Thanks Dave. I was hoping

Thanks Dave. I was hoping someone would see and appreciate the appropriate link. Sometimes these things get buried in the dust of battle... :) 

McNotObama '08

Get with the groupthink already Chris

I'm shocked you don't share the same taste in books as moonbats.  Don't you want to be able to go to all 57 states and maybe 1 more, read a telepromter and pretend to be an intellectual genius like Obama?

ac,I always chuckle at

ac,

I always chuckle at the way some of these liberals here are so desperate for everyone to think that they are oh, so erudite and intellectual.

McNotObama '08

Gingerwuss, you are nothing but a large void...

...surrounded by a sphincter muscle.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Great points!

As usual, Gingerdouche is the voice of reason. If only everybody was as smart-thinking and right-minded as he is.

Sincerely,

random Hufftard

 

 

Dear just curious,

Furthermore, if the attack was so gruesome why didn't she need any medical attention?  Just curious. 

And you claim to be a reader?  From the police report: 

"She declined medical treatment at the scene and said she would go to a hospital today."

If I had just been attacked at knifepoint and was the target of a brutal beating over something as innocent as a political bumper sticker, I would certainly want to get me and my car the hell out of that neigborhood as fast as I could too.

Isn't common sense a wonderful thing?   Try it sometime - we won't always be around to do your research for you. 

 These Obami idiots just

 These Obami idiots just didn't know when they had it good.  It's too late now.  They must have forgotten that if you don't start no crap there won't be no crap.

This may just be the ignition we've been waiting for.  Good, it's about time.  Stay tuned.

The media who do not report

The media who do not report this story is as guilty as the assailant.THUGS! 

Obama should issue an apology to the young lady asap. She was assulted on his behalf.  McCain called her and apologized. 

I hope this young lady is ok, my heart goes out to her family & friends.  

 

 

...and he isn't even President yet

This is just the start.

Some idiot Black guy carves a woman's face with a "B" for Barack, and the mainstream media ignores it?

God help us.  And he isn't even President yet.

Obama is bad news, folks.

It's Nazi Germany all over again.

Repeat: Nazi Germany painted black. 

Noel...You write much better than me!!!

I knew you would put your professional touch on this story.  I did my traditional "ALERT!!!" when I saw this break on DRUDGE.

Thank you for getting this out in the open.  I'm sure Hannity will hammer this home.  I've had MSNBC and CNN on split screen since this broke.  Nothing longer than one 2 minute blurb EACH!!  I have counted at least 10 Palin wardrobe references so far!!!

Here is my earlier post when it first broke - Just to show how much better Noel is compared to me.

ALERT!!! DRUDGE-McCain Worker Attacked...

October 23, 2008 - 17:20 ET by TheSter

Off topic - THIS IS BEYOND THE PALE.  OUTRAGEOUS!!!

But goes to MSNBC's IGNORING anything that could affect or change Obama's #1 winning Topic...The Economy.

Woman Attacked At ATM, Assailant Carves Letter Into Her Face

 http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!  2 minute blurb on Breaking News.

Then...wait for it...Sheister goes back to attacking Gov. Palin.

NO background on another woman attacked with own campaign sign.  NO background on Coleman's house being vandalized.  NO background on a GOP chairman's house being SHOT UP.

Clearly this shows a pattern of Obama Supporters VIOLENCE towards McCain supporters.

LETS PLAY A GAME.

What do you guy's think the MSM's reaction would be today if a female Obama supporter's face had a "M" carved on her???

ALSO: No mention on CNN yet; 10 minutes into Hardball...NO mention. Cafferty still on Palin's clothes.

Waiting for your Answers.

..............................

I AM NO NOEL SHEPPARD.

Also, Noel, Matt, et. all, Congratulations on the new NB ratings!!!

Ster.

my two cents

I'd call it more of a scrape than a slash but it certainly was a crime of violence.  The guy who did it is a scumbag.  

Am I the only one who remembers that there is a promise of riots in the streets if Obama loses.  Do you think this guy would participate?

 

Will there be riots?

I pray every night that we will get to find out! 

Bring it on baby, bring it on.  Dump the BO!

Dirty B...

I have a wife, a daughter, a granddaughter. These dirty bastards ---both the cowardly criminals and the MSM who ignore them in the name of Obama. Angry doesn't begin to express my outrage at this crap.

P.S. I guess attacks on women aren't very important to at least one person here. That, I submit, is part of the problems we have in America.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

seenitall, I agree with

seenitall,

I agree with you 100%.  But I have another idea.  I should use McCain/Palin posters, bumper stickers, etc. as bait!  I know how to handle those Obami supporters from that point.

Always, always be on the offensive!

Hey Gingerqueen

Hey Gingerqueen, would this be a "non-story" if the 20 year old woman were an Obama operative, the thug was a white McCain supporter and the mark was an M?

Be honest......

I thought not. 

People like you sicken me and I tire of your crap justifications for atrocities like this.  Just because your guy BHO is the choice of 99.9% of thugs doesn't make this ok.

This attack is indicative of larger trends that have been occurring for quite some time now.  The verbal, psychological and professional attacks and hooliganism have been happening for a long time.  Now it is getting physical. 

After spending a lot of time there, I can tell you that our country is beginning to remind me of Venezuela during the referendum period of 2003.  The Chavistas were limiting free speech and spinning things like crazy.  The attacks got physical there too.  And, Obama has the same base as Chavez: the lowlifes and the leftist academics.  And, lots of sneaky money was funding shenanigans that Chavez' team got away with.  The only difference is that the media tended to be against Chavez.  Here, they are for the reds. Once Hugo stole the election, the real "Change" started.  And fast.  It was amazing.

It's scary, really it is.  But, what I'm saying is no "right-wing paranoia" it is true.  We need to wake up to this, or we will lose our country, just as the Venezuelans have.

Do you happen to have a link

Do you happen to have a link to the video of Venezuela about 10 years ago, along with the photos of the same places more recently? I saw it a few days ago and now I want to send it to a friend, and can't find it. (Or do you know what I am talking about at least?)

I'm afraid I didn't see

I'm afraid I didn't see that one.  But, my first trip there was 9 years ago and my most recent was earlier this year.  It is a different country with a different constitution, different (even more violent and fearful) mood and official name. 

If anyone did see that video, I would also like to check it out.  Thanks!

I am going to use my

I am going to use my EXTREMELY limited computer skills and try to find it. If I do find it I will post it for you. (hoping someone here recognizes what I am looking for and posts it first)

Sheryl...You are doing AWESOME!!!

Great link!!

Let's not forget our history people!!!

Who went down there so supervise the original elections in Venezuela....wait for it...JIMMY CARTER!!!

Thanks to Jimma...we got Chavez, and the Mullas in Iran!!!

Ster.

Thank you!!! You have no

Thank you!!! You have no idea what that means to me! (My screen nicname used to be "CompIlliterate" But I am marginally better now. Anyway, thanks again for the encouragement.

Found it! (everyone

Found it! (everyone cheer!)
http://www.youtube.c...

StogieGuy

You are so right. I remember not so long ago listening to a friend on the phone with his mother in Venezuela. He kept telling her to stop saying things because "they" might be listening. After the call he said that he hopes this never happens here in America. Sad. But if it does, the silence from the "liberals" will be deafening. All the poltroons who cared so much for the "rights" of the terrorists won't be fighting for your rights at all. Mark my words. America is in deep soup folks.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

I guess we will call it "Baracking" in the future.

In the 1980's the media coined the phrase "Borked' to indicate someone who is falsly and ceaselessly hammered by the opposition to remove their consideration for the Supreme Court who was imminently qualified.  The desire being, hurt the nominee so hard they ask to be removed from nomination.

In the 2004 election, veterans who spoke up against a former colleague who had tunred upon them and dishonored their service were ceaselessly hammered by the left and the press in an effort to get them to retract their recollections and observations of John F Kerry.  This hammering was surprisingly called "Swiftboating", though the press insists the term refers to false statements about the veterans, not the candidate.

This causes me to wonder, what will the press call the unceasing criticism of anyone who disagrees with Barack Obama as a racist regardless of cause? 

 

  • Disagree with Obamas close ties to terrorist Bill Ayers?  You are a racist.
  • Believe that Rev Wright is unpatriotic?  You are a racist.
  • Not want to surrender more of your hard earned income to the government?  You are a racist.
  • Want criminals to be punished?  You are a racist.
  • Not want the US to surrender in the GWOT?  You are a racist.
  • Diappointed that Michelle Obama only took pride in her country AFTER her husband was nominated? You are a racist.

I guess we will call it "Baracking" in the future.

This thread has gingerbread

This thread has gingerbread man crumbs all over it. Will someone please get the Swiffer? 

McNotObama '08

Chris...

Call me The Swiff-STER.

I'll be all over him ALL night!!!!

Ster.

Ster, Get one of the

Ster,

Get one of the fancy ones with the sprayer - there's an oily residue also. 

McNotObama '08

Ster

Mom's on it:  I got my industrial strength troll remover and a mop. 

You kids go on back to chatting about important issues like obama's SOCIALISM TAX and the Liberal Bias in the news...and I'll get these filthy troll crumbs out of OUR house!

oh, and milk&cookies (or Jack&Coke) later for all the good posters!

 

 

It can't be a hate crime,

It can't be a hate crime, the perpetrate was black.

P.S. Gingerqueen is a troll

P.S. Gingerqueen is a troll and should be treated as such.  

Socialism

Obama's =Socialism

On Halloween, when your kid dresses in costume and you take them Trick-or-Treating.

When your kid returns home he/she has to give their candy to the kids who stayed home sat on their butt and didn't bother to go Trick-or-Treating. Obama'sSpread the Wealth Plan=SOCIALISM.

 

 

WHITE LIBS, 40 YEARS OF PASSES

 This is only the beginning, win or
lose, the white libs and biased media will do their best to ignore this
one…maybe it was Bush’s fault…Obama’s spoiled entitled angry sheep are
going to be the thugs they are…thanks libs, you have been excusing them
for 40 years now… so here we are…

now I dare any network lib to find a
GOP act anywhere equal to this…they are trying to find a spin for sure.
The Party of “peace, tolerance and rights for all”….well, most all.

Gal
half his size…what a man. Is this a “hate crime’?

(How many libs will come forth to comdemn this? How many on TV? How many?) 

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

mm... That fact crossed

mm...

That fact crossed my mind too...

If this was reversed with party and race...

Can you imagine the NEWS HEADLINES!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Bt...Can I go on a Ginger-Hunt???

Call me The Swiff-STER.

I'll be picking up his CRUMBS and spittin' back ALL night.

Ster.

Oh wow.  I can't even

Oh wow.  I can't even imagine the hysteria in the media if a black person were attacked by a McCain supporter.  The Anti Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP, the anointed one himself (B Hussein) and everyone else would already be on the television screens.  Heck, I bet there would even be schools let out and workers sent home for a moment of silence.

 

mm...you got it exactly

mm...you got it exactly right!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Where was John Murtha?

Hell, isn't this close to his district.  Perhaps he should take notes here.  The scary part of this is that, one of the South Florida Talk Radio Shows, the Schnitt show, has had a couple of calls from black callers saying that, once Obama wins, there's going to be reparations and white folk are all going to pay for the sins of the past.  I don't know if there's a majority of people that think that way, and that's really not the point, the point is that, with all the talk about racism and Murtha talking about his redneck constituents, it's a McCain volunteer that gets mugged and cut, it's McCain signs that are being destroyed, it's people wearing McCain campaign shirts who are being accused, based on nothing, of being racist.  Someone needs to call the Democrats and Obama on this.

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

To all the lib posters

 Please post your reaction if a huge white male did this to a black Obama worker.

Just want to know. Just curious. Just how you would tie this to Repubs- McCain.

Just curious.

The real outrage is that liberals take even a second to rationalize or topic-shift on this attack...That is disgusting. ..of course, that is what makes you a liberal...lack of logic and reason.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Reelman46, This whole

Reelman46,

This whole thing begs the question: if Obama-lama-ding-dong wins, does that mean that we as Amerikkkans will no longer be racist?

I doubt it.

 

The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents.  Salvador Dalí

For the Ph.D!!!

First of all, I don't recall mentioning Obama.  I don't believe Obama had a thing to do with this.  I did, however, mention John Murtha, who has been telling people, like the assailer here, that Western Pennsylvania is loaded with bigots that won't vote for a black man.  Is it surprising that there might be a little anger at white McCain supporters, out there? It was just a thought. 

As far as the phone calls to the Schnitt show are concerned, they were replayed, uncut, and they seemed to show a little anger and a desire for revenge upon anyone that doesn't support Obama.  There again, if this becomes rampant, perception will become reality.  What is it with the stories about potential riots, in certain cities?  I didn't see Republicans rioting when Gore tried to steal the 2000 election.  I doubt, even with all the ACORN stuff going on, you'd see people riot, if McCain loses, and ACORN is shown to have comitted voter fraud.

None of this would be happening had the MSM done their job and vetted Obama.  They shirked their responsibilities and we're going to be left picking up the pieces.

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

Hey Gingerman

They just showed a picture of the young lady on Fox. Her face is a mess. No big deal,eh? A non-story? Wow!Then again, its not your wife or daughter.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

"B" is backwards

Why is the "B" backwards? Does it have something to do with the photography? Just asking. I would forward this story to every person you know. If this is what is happening before the election can one imagine what will happen if Obama loses. I highly suggest if Obama loses travel in groups and carry a weapon if you have a permit. If your children are in public schools and you live in an inner city I would suggest having them stay home. It will not be safe for a white person on the streets. Remember LA when they attacked whites. Don't be a victim and don't think it cannot happen to you.

Just addressing your question

If the victim were held on the ground and the attacker were above her head looking "down", the "B" would not be reversed.  I don't know if that is what actually happened but it seems quite plausible.

I thought it was upside

I thought it was upside down. Like he was standing over her holding her down and "writing" from his point of view.

shery, ,Exorcising his freedom speeechhh, illiterate. 0bamaite.

dyslexic... No.

.NEWS FLASH

He is a <shock>a

McCAIN plant.. 6'4" guy "confesses"! Oct surprise ! He worked for  a GOP  tire repair shop.

COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT

IranianUranium

I'm thinking a mirror...

cayenne,

The first thing I thought of the "B" is backwards...but it does depend on the orientation of the mugger.

It doesn't look jagged for someone being attacked and having your face carved. The lines seem to be "clean" and the "B" distinct and centered on her cheek. It was 9 pm and dark, correct? 

Let's see the video tape to prove the correct position of the mugger and to put my doubts to rest. If the incident occurred, I hope they find the bastard and throw the book at him...if not...well...

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

That's just plain ugly.

Just like you, ugly uber.

 

In his own words (19 seconds):  This man is qualified to be VP?

Blonde...

Blonde,

You might want to hold off on your statement...it seems there's more to this story as it unfolds...

I'll expect an apology from you after Miss Todd is done with her polygraph.

It seems the "Perp" was straddling her chest and pinning her arms down as he carefully drew the backwards "B"... and this coming from the HotAir website and Michelle Malkin's website....

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Hey Blonde...She made the whole thing up!!!

Blonde,

Would you like to apologize for your statements to me and the rest of the skeptics on this site?

Übercon

"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford

Geez, isn't that two fake

Geez, isn't that two fake "attacks" this week?

What a moron. 

Hehehe

Several large servings of crow seem to be in order.

I wonder if they are going to put up a new blog post or just put updates on the original threads.

It won't be long before the

It won't be long before the MSM destroys her character.  Their justification would be "well, she should know that reporting a crime to the police would thrust her into the spotlight and allow us to scrutinize her personal history." Then CNN will interview the attacker and make him the victim of racism.

 

BTW, Gingerbrains  Palin is factually more experienced and ready to lead a country than Obama, hands down.  She has executive experience as a governer and has an 80% approval rating in Alaska (among other things).  Her record speaks for itself.  Palin is more than qualified to be VP and has a better resume than Obama, who is running for president.  Seriously! The only thing Obama ever ran was his failed housing & education "community projects" in Chicago.  While the entire democratic led congress approval rating has been 10%, even lower than Bush - 1 person.  Go ahead and solidfy their power and you will regret it, America will regret it.

No doubt the Big Liberal Media is already combing through

the evidence to see if she owes any back taxes

DaMav... Yep...and

DaMav...

Yep...and anything else they can attempt to smear her with 24/7...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Has Obama condemned this yet?

Yeah, I know his campaign did.  But he is prone to use his campaign staff as a scapegoat for anything he wants to later deny. 

This demands the strongest, most direct condemnation available imo, from all the candidates.  Simply intolerable.

Now Phase 2 starts

 Phase 2: Media will investigate this innocent gal and it will somehow be her fault or a scam or some plot…just wait 2 days...its what the biased lib-media do these days...

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Wow, Rush Limbaugh was right

Wow, Rush Limbaugh was right when he said we are now in a Banana Republic.  Welcome to the third world.  THANK YOU BARACK HUSSEIN!!!

mm... Yep...and some kind

mm...

Yep...and some kind of a revolution has to happen..if people think there isn't seething anger out here mounting to a boiling point...they would be wrong...

Somethings got to give...I just don't know when.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Got hope BT?

But...but...the media said Obama was going to unite the country.

acumen... Yeah

acumen...

Yeah right..lol..that will be when hell freezes over.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I'm gonna join the

I'm gonna join the Republican Underground... 

McNotObama '08

That's "Papa Doc Barak", if

That's "Papa Doc Barak", if you please... 

McNotObama '08

Bob Grant

The radio pioneer Bob Grant, in the 60's 70's and 80's, used to say, "We're slipping and sliding into Third Worldism". Now we are here. Sad.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

We'll know we've arrived at

We'll know we've arrived at third world status when all the power goes off for a few hours at 3:00 every afternoon. 

McNotObama '08

attack

Given all of the hoax attacks during the past few years, I don't think this should be trumpeted all over until more of the facts come in.

If its true, the MSM will

If its true, the MSM will minimize the coverage. If a hoax, you can bet that they will maximize to its fullest extent. They are just just patiently waiting, then if given the opportunity use this as racial attack from McCain via his supporters aganst Obama.  They will never associate this with Obama if it was true..

"I don't think this should

"I don't think this should be trumpeted all over until more of the facts come in."

Rest assured that no one will trumpet this anywhere else - unless it proves to be a hoax. 

McNotObama '08

Chris...Ironic???

"Kill Him"

'nuff said.

Ster.

Lorraine...tell me, do you

Lorraine...tell me, do you think the msm would wait if this were reversed in every aspect of this situation...huh?

If memory serves me..you are another one who rarely answers after you post...prove me wrong, I would appreciate it.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Ignore history

Ignore history and you are condemned to re-live it. As this continues, and it will, ignorance is bliss for the MSM. And the press in this country continues to shirk its duty in order to support Barry Obama. Why?

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

As usual, the Post-Gazette

As usual, the Post-Gazette does a half-ass job:

McCain staffer says she was mugged, had 'B' cut into face.

My favorite line: "This is what she's telling police," police spokeswoman Diane Richard said. "We can't substantiate it at this time." 

It takes the #2 newspaper, the eveel right-wing rag to actually do actual reporting: McCain supporter robbed, assaulted.

BTW, Noel, KDKA is channel 2 in Pgh. WTAE is channel 4.

I think the oldest television station in the country would be offended... :)

Roger, they must've slipped

Roger, they must've slipped up - usually in these circumstances they use the even weaker "claimed". 

McNotObama '08

Heh, yep. BTW, Chris, I

Heh, yep.

BTW, Chris, I keep searching for a place to get MCNOTOBAMA yard signs, but have had no luck. You?

I'm afraid you'll have to

I'm afraid you'll have to go to a Fast Signs for one. I did produce a small poster on my computer of that soviet-looking Obama sign that says "Hope" - I changed it to "Dope". 

McNotObama '08

Rog, any chance this wortless low-life will be charged with a...

...hate crime?

Uhh, wait. I forgot.

How silly of me.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

The really sad thing here is the young victim wasn't armed...

...as that would have accomplished two things:

1) She would not have wound up a victim in this hideous assault.

2) She would have permanently removed a worthless low-life from the gene pool.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Dave...A Gun in the Hand...

...Beats a Cop on the PHONE!!!

Ster.

AP Report

This just in from the AP...

"An angry mob of McCain/Palin supporter(s) rushed an innocent black man amid cries of 'Kill him' and 'Cut his head off'.  Once she found out he was an Obama supporter, she proceded to pummel his fists with viscious blows from her head, leaving him in a near state of euphoria, after which, she stuffed money into his pockets, and then in a bizarre act, actually dulled the victims knife blade on her cheek.    The Obama campaign vowed that this intolerant, racist, hate crime will not go unpunished."

 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Jerry... Beautiful work

Jerry...

Beautiful work there...you hit the nail on the head.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Taking Bets on how Olby covers THIS!!!

Any takers???

Ster.

Ster,

If he even mentions this hideous attack (which is doubtful) Olbermann will blame the victim.

After all, she was "stupid" enough to be a McCain/Palin supporter.

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

they'll care

if they can throw enough garbage and dirt in the air to suggest she was faking it. 

Personally I maintain some skepticism but it looks fairly accurate

I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it - Voltaire

I just checked on the news

I just checked on the news web sites. Aside from Fox News, no one else is reporting this attack. They must be waiting to check to see if this woman has her political volunteer license and is paid up on her taxes...

 

McNotObama '08

Chris...you got that

Chris...you got that right...and this really is outrageous with the msm.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

However, CNN had a story

However, CNN had a story on the most popular Jack O'Lantern carvings, featuring one with a Sarah Palin face. The rest featured stories on polls showing Obama with the trademarked "double digit lead".  

McNotObama '08

Just precious isn't it

Just precious isn't it Chris...

I really am furious about this all...somethings just do it for me adn this is one of them, how the hell dare the msm keep ignoring this...I cannot believe all the ways we know they would spin this 24/7 for the Fearless leftist Leader...just like they made up stuff about KILL HIM for days and days....no apologies later when found out not true.

I am MAD!

What does this say to young volunteer workers who want to help our side of the aisle...eh?

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt, Any rules that we

bt,

Any rules that we understood were applied to the media have now all disappeared. We need a new news media - the old one has left.

McNotObama '08

Here we GO!!! Huffington Post!!! Shocking!!!

Didn't take long to spin this!!!  I knew it!!!

Drudge Puts Dangerous Spin on Mugging, Implies Violence Targeting McCain VolunteersDrudge Puts Dangerous Spin on Mugging, Implies Violence Targeting McCain Volunteers

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/drudge-puts-dangerous-spi_b_137342.html

Get this...

...What Drudge has done, in other words, is reframe a report about a mugging to make it seem like the beginning of targeted political violence against the McCain campaign.  Hence, it seems from his headline that there are criminals in the U.S. currently out looking for McCain volunteers with the goal of brutally assaulting them--that someone was looking for McCain volunteers to attack, found one, and beat her. ...

There is more...just hit the link I provided.

DO NOT read the comments on Huff Post if you just ate Dinner!!!  I'm WARNING you.

Ster.

Ster, I find the comments

Ster,

I find the comments on the Huff Post pretty much like the dinner that came up. 

McNotObama '08

We really are at war.  Read

We really are at war.  Read some of the disgusting comments over there at Huffington.  No remorse whatsoever.  I guess Obama supporters will be strapping explosives to their backs in the months to come.  

mm,

I guess Obama supporters will be strapping explosives to their backs in the months to come.

LOL-And may all their detonations be premature. :-)

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Episode II Ster

What's next Ster?

How 'bout - The assailant was an architect wanna-be turned city planner wanna-be that was rejected by corporate Amerika.  Desperate, the young lad was forced to joined the Van Buren Boys. His initiation was to carve an eight (which was first thought to be a B) in the face of the first person he came across which just happened to be a McCain campaign worker.

Ster...I don't care about

Ster...I don't care about the typical filth from the comments on HuffnPuff, which I read some...what I cared about was Feldman's outrageous blog post...and his last words there..."will the networks refute this...let's hope so"

He got his wish...he named all the networks by the way other than Fox that work for The One.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Bt...I skipped Dinner...

...so I can Take One For Team and watch Olby.

I need to see how he spins this. 

I know he won't even mention it...but...I'm down to 2 keyboards...

If I BARF or SPILL my BEER...I won't have enough keyboards for this weekend.

The stuff I put myself through for NewsBusters.  Can I write off Keyboards as a business expense???

Ster.

Just don't put it down as

Just don't put it down as "Entertainment".

Greta Sticks Up For Sarah

 

 

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 Well, Obama did say he

 Well, Obama did say he wants to spread the wealth. This guy was just claiming his fair share.

 

Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.

Gingerboy, let's cut through the BS and get down to brass tacks

The only reason you, along with all the other rabid supporters of the (milk) Chocolate messiah are going after Sarah Palin with such an irrational vehemence is because, deep down, you know she is far more qualified than your precious "savior."

This is really why all of you of the freedom-hating Marxist persuasion cannot stand her, isn't it? 

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

Noel...It seems we both

Noel...

It seems we both had the same idea...Obama’s Peaceful Followers Approve Of Torture

 

 

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dunno

If this story is true then it's disturbing and should be aggressively followed. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it happened. That said, I am going to wait for more information before I make a judgement.

Either way the media should be all over this looking for the truth. They took an unfounded story about a Republican yelling "kill him" and blasted it all over TV but yet they can't be bothered to investigate something like this. I would like to know what actually happened, but it looks like once again I'll have to depend on the alternate media to find out.

 

Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.

Race Relations

For a man who is only part Black, was brought up by white people, was freinds with white people, went to school almost entirely with white people in privileged schools, he is doing more to reverse race relations than any person I know.

He has created a campaign that frames every disagreement with Obama as "racist" - - -  and there is not exception. Obama has disguntingly called Clinton racist and now McCain racist.

This poor girl's attack is a direct result of the actions of the Obama campaign and the racism they have been propagating.

As I said, the end result of this will be very damaged race relations that I do not see healing quickly.

 

 

more race relations

if bho isn't black he isn't running for president.  period.  and you are correct in another way...sort of.  bho, growing up in hawaii, grew up in one of the least racist areas of the country.  oh, unless you are white.....and even then it ain't all that bad.

 

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

This encapsulates the "change" that Obama has in mind!

Think of the symbolism of this.  The forces of Obama are out there forcefully taking away people's hard-earned money and marking those who have the audacity to disagree with him.  This is really scary stuff!  Is this the "change" that he has been talking about?  And what about the "hope"?

"I hope he carves an "O" in my butt cheek rather than a "B" in my face cheek."

In a world such as this, one can ONLY hope because the U.S. Cavalry, with their horses hobbled by "The One", won't be able to ride to the rescue.

come on yall

Michelle Malkin is saying this story smells weird. Can't we all just wait before jump to conclusions? 

 

Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.

I agree, candance. It

I agree, candance. It doesn't fit what I know about criminal behavior. If he was already beating her up, already violent, then further enraged by the McCain connection, he'd have slashed or stabbed, not scratched.

Something's fishy here. 

Clearly the woman was beaten up. But how the B got there is not clear.  

cd... It may very well be

cd...

It may very well be rotten...

My point is if this was reversed in all aspects this would of already been earth shaking Breaking News....if it came out a fake story...the msm would just shrug this off and move on...as they did with the DUKE CASE for example...including Fox!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

agreed BT

That's why I say the MSM should be in there looking for the truth but they aren't even trying. 

 

Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.

She does genuinely look as

She does genuinely look as if she'd been beaten up, but how could somebody carve that neat and tidy a B into your face while you're struggling? And would you not struggle if you were getting your face carved?

 The amount of rage it takes to do something like that doesn't seem to be matching the wound. 

It smells rotten to me too.

It smells rotten to me too. I can't imagine that this event will do anything good for the McCain campaign.

The "B" marking could either be interpreted as a gang symbol or as a monumental (McCain) campaign stunt.

It could have been worse

Lucky it was a B as opposed to 666 ....that may be coming next ...

Seriously, I do hope that if this is real that this young lady will be ok...

This young woman didn't

This young woman didn't deserve this...neither did the woman in NYC. I am disgusted by how "tolerant" the Left wing Socialists are! I hope and pray daily that Obama loses so I don't have to hear anything else from the retards on the Left!

Barack Obama= Half Honkey...ALL Donkey

historical memory

Do you guys remember when there was a post about how Obama had tried to delay troop withdrawal from Iraq and there was outrage expressed over the fact that no one in the MSM other than Fox was talking about it? ( http://newsbusters.o... )

And then it turned out that it wasn't being talked about much because it never actually happened ( http://blogs.abcnews... ).

Now, I'm not going to argue that history infallibly teaches us what will happen, but it is a useful guide sometimes.

So, why is no one talking about this outrageous crime? Possibly because it's not true.

But I could be wrong, and it may be true, but as other people here have pointed out, even Michelle Malkin advises caution when it comes to this story ( http://michellemalki... ).

I hope this woman isnt a

I hope this woman isnt a fraud. Cuz to me, the 'B' looks backwards, like she may have done it while looking in the mirror. I hope I am wrong...

"So, why is no one

"So, why is no one talking about this outrageous crime? Possibly because it's not true."

How do they know it's not true? That sure didn't stop them from reporting that someone said "kill him" about Obama at a McCain rally despite that not being true, did it? Hell, that even made it into the last debate, despite it not being true.

They don't know if it's true or not, they only know what has been alleged, and that's what they should report. If it turns out that she lied, then they should rightfully report that as well.

PS

The Washington Times apparently didn't get Tapper's memo.

 

Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.

you're right about that, but

hey CKC,

You're right about part of that--how do they know it's not true? The media doesn't know that absolutely, and will only know after the police investigate. Which, according to this report at CNN, they are doing ( http://politicaltick... ). (Which is my way of saying, see, they are talking about it at other sites.)

On the other hand, as you've seen, a bunch of people on the right--such as Michelle Malkin and a bunch of commenters here--have commented that something doesn't seem right here. So, do we know for sure that this is not true? No, but the evidence seems to lead us that way, which may be why the other news-sites are not trumpeting this story just yet.

So, a) CNN's website is reporting it, b) the police are investigating, and c) the evidence we have seems to suggest that it's not a true story.

(Compare to the "Kill him" line: a) it was reported on (thanks to a reporter who said she heard it--I'm sure if this was a FNC reporter getting attacked, we'd hear more about it); b) it was investigated; c) there was no evidence that showed that it was wrong before the investigation, but when it was disproven, they reported that too.)

nick... Go away! You have

nick...

Go away! You have never been right about anything you have posted, so please just go back to sleep.

Border Security Get’s Smart

 

 

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er, ok

But CT, I just pointed out that sometimes, when people jump to the conclusion about certain stories, they're proven wrong.

Which is actually true, even on this site.

Like, remember when there was a post about how Obama tried to delay troop withdrawal from Iraq (wrong), or how there was a lot of fraud that kept "An American Carol" down in the box office (not demonstrably wrong, but no evidence suggested that it was true).

I think this is not a partisan lesson--it's something that both NB and DailyKos could learn from: unless you're going to have a vigorous retraction and correction policy, you might want to investigate certain stories first.

(For instance, remember the whole "Trig is Bristol's baby!" story--yeah, I think people jumped to conclusions there.)

Nick...I'll be FAIR...

I'll wait for the Investigation.  True of False.  We'll find out!!

The underlying PREMIS is still TRUE.  What is the media going to take as FACT...and how FAR will they RUN with it.

How did the MSM treat this story when it was FIRST REPORTED.....and HOW THEY SWEPT IT UNDER THE RUG....is telling!!!!

That is what I'm going with...for now.

Ster.

you really think this would lead off the news-cycle?

Turn it around: if an Obama supporter came up with a story about how they were attacked by a McCain supporter and had a "J" scratched (backwards) into their cheek, do you really think it would be on ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox?

I'm sure DailyKos would have it, but the other networks would probably be a little shy about it at first.

Really, the reason why most news-sources aren't touching this with a 10-foot pole is because it stinks on ice.

It may very well turn out to be true, but my point is that news-people are probably waiting to hear if this is actually a news-story because it looks like something made-up.

(Like, did you hear the one about the right-wing radio talk-show host who complained about the Obama flag--something that looked like an American flag, but with a big O on it? Very few people reported that, but then again, that might have been because it turned out to be Ohio's state flag.)

Wrong

Wrong!

If this had been a 20-year-old, black, female Obama volunteer, and the assailant a white, male, McCain supporter, this would have lead all three evening news programs, and been today's front-page headline on NYT, WaPo, USA Today, et al.

Moreover, the victim would have done telephone conversations with all of the morning news programs!  ns

I respectfully disagree

Noel,

I'll say it again: no matter whom it happened to or who did it, a story where the evidence is so patently questionable would not make the top of the news cycle because it's so patently questionable. (It may be true, as I've said, but being so questionable, it probably would not lead off the news-cycle.)

Now, some commenters say that this shows a double-standard since the "kill him" line was reported and investigated, but there's two problems with that argument.

First, this case is being reported and investigated, though it is being reported tentatively because the evidence is so questionable.

Second, the evidence of the "kill him" line was itself less questionable--after all, it's not like someone yelled out "And if mine eyes can wound, now let them kill thee!" or some other questionable phrase.

(I mean, who yells out lines from Shakespeare's "As You Like It" under any condition? If someone yelled out that, it would be--like the B being backwards or upside-down--questionable as evidence.)

The Duke Lacrosse team rape

The Duke Lacrosse team rape hoax is existence proof refuring your entire argument.  That ACTUAL EVENT was a litmus test as to how the MSM would portray the assault/robbery scenario described by Noel.   We have no need to suppose how the MSM might behave in such circumstances.  They have already shown us.

In similar fashion, we now witness in this case a contrasting conduct.  The truth/falsehood of the charge leveled in this case is irrelevant to the discussion, as the Duke case allegations proved to be false.   Whether these charges are founded or not has no bearing on media conduct.  The media presupposed the guilt of the Duke Lacrosse players and trumpeted the headlines for days. They have uttered nary a peep about this case and in so doing have exposed their hypocrisy, bias, racism and inconsistency. 

Last, I have $20 that says these charges have basis in fact.

okay, let's look at this

NL,

The Duke Lacross Rape hoax gets mentioned a lot, and I don't even remember it (except for the fact that it was a hoax), so maybe you'll know: 

Was there anything in the initial evidence presented that flagged this story as fishy? I mean, I remember it being at first simply a "he said/she said" (er, "they said/she said") sort of case.

Here, however, the very first piece of evidence--the wounds on her face--flags this story as fishy. Michelle Malkin noted that from the beginning, as did some other people.

So, the difference between the cases (if I'm remembered the Duke case correctly) is that this hoax was clearly questionable from the beginning, whereas that hoax was not.

»→ What's your point nickles

What's your point?  That you forget easily, or that Liberals are more proficient prevericators than Republicans?

I certainly can't argue with you there.

Those of us who jumped to conclusions now sheepishly admit a rush to judgment.  Your girl in the Duke Case just announced the publishing of her tell-all book.  I'm sure you'll buy it.

Won't hear an apology from Al Sharpton.  Tawana Brawley

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Oh no, I've got enough to

Oh no, I've got enough to read, and I don't understand the appeal of that book--or other hoax books, like Frey's and Jayson Blair's.

If I want a hoax, I'll read Edgar Allan Poe's hoaxes.

Nick,

How convenient. You have forgotten. I'll remember that excuse re. this case.

The fact the "victim" gave no less than FIVE accounts of the crime, the fact that from the beginning the police had concerns about her statements, and the fact that there was NO proof or credible supporting testimony or eyewitness accounts might have been a clue.

Even the other dancer there quickly changed her account, but Nifong persisted anyway.

If you memory is this short, does it not negate every comment you have posted. Feigning ignorance here renders all of you other posts useless.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Rest

Rest,

It is awfully difficult taking seriously someone that conveniently forgets one of the most publicized criminal court cases of the decade.

Why is it this entire group tied to liberal principles has such a poor memory, yet they're so adept at regurgitating nonsensical Democrat talking points? 

Heck, countless numbers of these folk can tell you what Olbermann's Special Comment was on 9/11/06, but they can't remember that this North Carolina district attorney lied about the whole thing.

Why do you think that is?  :-)  ns

»→ Noel

»→ I take it you won't be buying Gail Mangnum's new book either?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

CA

CA,

What are you kidding? Mine's already on back order at Amazon. ns

Can I borrow it?

I hear she personally thanks Jesse Jackson for her college education in the first chapter.

Al Sharpton didn't even mention Jesse's generosity in the Forword.

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Noel,

I don't, with very few exceptions, in isolated cases, take any of these trolls seriously. I usually ignore them, but this was too absurd.

To not have heard of the Duke Lacrosse team case strains incredulity.

Oh well, as "House" says, "everybody lies", the only difference is, about what.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Rest

Rest,

Ah, House. Amazing show. Great episode this week. Interesting story with 13 and her one-night-stand. Brilliant stuff. Love that show.

Do you watch Mad Men? Another brilliant show, although the past two weeks have been a bit depressing.  ns

House

I DVR both House and Mad Men.  Great shows.

Bones got entirely too stupid this year.  Still watch Boston Legal, but the constant onslaught of preachy liberalism gets tedious.

BTW, how was your day on Wall & Broad?  I lost 1.6%.  Still up 5% on the year.  I'm putting it somewhere safer over Election Day.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

CA

CA,

We've been mostly out of stocks since last July. My wife's in banking, and when the first credit cracks started last year, she moved completely into cash. Hasn't re-entered.   ns

Smooth move

I should've done likewise two days ago.

At 5:00 am I was watching Europe tank with my money locked in until End of trading in the US.

Starting out -550 points, all I could do was laugh at my lack of timing.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Wait, Mad Men gets more

Wait, Mad Men gets more depressing? I'm still in season 1, but each ep. has at least one scene that feels like a kick in the shins, if not the teeth.

But, you know, I'm a liberal, so I keep coming back for more.

Nick

Nick,

Season one's a picnic. Season two is very, very dark. Similar to the Sopranos in that respect. It's still great, but not as entertaining. A little tough to take at times. 

Of course, it could also be a function of how depressing real life is now. I take politics, economics, and the current financial industry collapse very seriously if you hadn't noticed.   ns

Hey Noel,

That reminds me. I received an email form Indocinate U about the film being run on the documentary channel. This is the closest that I can find regarding times. Thought some NB'ers would want to know.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

politics tears people apart, tv brings them together?

Yeah, I know what you mean about real life seeping in. Actually, I just read an article by a science fiction writer about how he rediscovered Doc Savage were he says something about that--"Depressing times call for Depression literature," iirc. I haven't tried that prescription myself, but I have recently been thinking about rewatching the Marx Bros.' Duck Soup.

take care, Nick

Nick

Nick,

Ever seen "Hannah and her Sisters?"

Duck Soup. 

Funny you bring up old movies. Tonight I watched "To Kill a Mockingbird." Peck and those two kids should get Oscars every year for those performances.

Did you know those kids never did any official acting before that film?  ns

a good way to end a political debate

oh, man, "Hannah and her Sisters," I haven't seen that in a long time. Actually, I haven't seen "Bananas" or "Love and Death" in a long time either.

I can easily see myself putting together a 1930s screwball/Woody Allen retrospective to temper the news-cycle.

(Or maybe I could take a weekend to watch "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "Night of the Hunter"--another movie I was thinking of recently--just to see two kids in two different situations: with the ideal dad in Peck, and the nightmare step-dad in Mitchum. It's funny, I don't remember the kids' performances in those movies, but I remember Peck's and Mitchum's--and I had not heard that about the kids in "Mockingbird" being new to acting. Definitely worth a look.)

Used to watch "Talk Soup"

Used to watch "Talk Soup" myself. Now I think it is just called "The Soup

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Rest

Rest,

Duck Soup. Marx Brothers. Funniest film ever made. :-)  ns

Noel, Nick???

I missed the whole debate?!?!?!?  Crap.

Just for the Record....

I like how 2 opposing political views can be brought together by a great TV show!!!

Ster.

Noel,

I haven't heard of Mad Men. If it comes out on HBO or showtime, I don't get it.

I love "House", and "Monk", and "The Closer". Of course, I am the only one in my house who will stay up for two days watching "Twilight Zone" marathons, even though I've seen them all. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Different priorities in terms of crime

Okay, that's fair, it was a well-publicized case, but I'm less interested in false allegations of rape than I am in allegations of terrorism. Like, I'm sure we could have a fruitful discussion of Richard Jewell being implicated (wrongly) in the Atlanta Olympic bombing, '96.

You're right, though, here's a case where I perhaps should have read the Wikipedia article first. (You know, I should read the article before I rewrite it with a liberal bias.)

Anyway, if we're going to talk about historical amnesia, didn't I just point out how NB posters sometimes put stories into print which then turn out to be untrue (Obama delays troop withdrawal, "American Carol" victim of massive fraud, McCain supporter attacked).

You'd think that people would learn from history that happened within the past few weeks. ;-)

(On the other hand, as I've said before, maybe the internet is made for spurious allegations on the chance that some of them might be true. I'm on the fence about that one.)

wikipedia

dude if you have the wiki version all you will have to do is cut and paste....it will already have a liberal bias.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

absolutely agreed noel

The dook case *was* fishy from the start but Nifong pushed it to get re-elected in a heavily black/poor city where dook students are seen as outsiders. That's not speculation - it's historical fact. Many things about that case did not pass the sniff test from the beginning yet the MSM looked for ways to validate it.

I do agree that we saw an initial double standard at play. Even when the boys started challenging the press and leaking out the contradictory details, the MSM reported them halfheartedly. We also saw verbose, dramatic, almost gleeful reports of how the case proved there was still a gap between blacks and whites. The media actively took her side in the face of contradiction and almost suceeded in crucifying those innocent boys.

And now lefties have the nerve to say the details of that case are obscure. All the lefties on here running victory laps, I urge some intellectually honesty on your side too.   

 

Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.

i feel implicated in that...

Somehow, whenever something political happens, someone makes a sweeping generalization about the other side--"liberals lie, conservatives lie."

One reason why I take the time to talk about books, movies, tv shows is to show that, although I may have liberal feelings in some ways, I'm also just a person, i.e., not so easily reduced to a stereotype. (I also like to do that because it keeps me honest in terms of not stereotyping the people here.)

So, to respond to your last paragraph, which I feel implicated by, though you might not have meant it to refer to me. First, I never said the Duke case was obscure, I said I had forgotten it. (That is, I placed the lack on myself--not "oh, we'll never know what happened, the case is obscure," but "I've forgotten it--if I was really interested in it, I would look it up.")

Second, as for victory laps, since I didn't call this one correctly, I don't feel a victory lap coming on. That is, I counseled skepticism, but I never said it was a hoax. People who called BS on the story from the first, both left and right, can enjoy their victory lap.

So, just to be clear: I'm not blaming you for what Ashley Todd did just because you're both McCain supporters (I assume--at least, we could say you're both against Obama, right?), so I hope you don't lump all liberals into one basket. It may be easier to drown us like kittens when we're in one basket, but it's not fair to the range of opinions and actions.

Nick

I'm beginning to like you.

You may be on the liberal side, but you seem to be honest and get the point of most things here, without the talking points and flames.

 

In his own words (19 seconds):  This man is qualified to be VP?

Hello Blonde

How are your Gators doing? At least you're not kicking our butts this week.

cheers, blonde--I'm hoping

cheers, blonde--I'm hoping eventually to get my own column here, like "What a liberal really 'thinks'", or something like that. :-)

(I used to hate emoticons when I was young, but as I get older I find nothing quite says "I'm not taking myself too seriously!" so well.)

not so much you nick

There is an emerging effort to dismiss the dook thing among other lefties now and that's what I was responding to - not a personal referendum on you.

Carry on. :)

sweeping comments

R1,

Does it really make sense to you to claim that every comment of mine should be thrown out because I don't remember the facts in a hoaxed rape case from 2 years ago? (And yes, if you care for it, you have my permission to forget about the whole Ashley Todd case by 2010, just in time for those elections.)

Now, as for the Duke rape case, I agree with you that Mangum (the accuser--I looked it up on Wikipedia!) clearly turned out to be not credible as an accuser, and there were problems with evidence from the start, and a lot of other shenanigans (Mike Nifong seems to be chief among the shenanigan-ers).

And there was a lot of instant support for Mangum and a lot of vituperation and harassment against the players despite the lack of credible evidence. Some people were too quick to jump on the bandwagon there. (It's why I counsel skepticism.)

But the main difference still seems to be that issue of "credible evidence": Mangum's story fell apart (it didn't have any credible evidence to support it, which people found out when they investigated--which in no way excuses people for presuming guilt).

Whereas in the Ashley Todd case, the evidence from the beginning was INcredible--the main evidence she had was her wounds, which didn't seem realistic. (She twittered the whole incident? The assailant carved the B backwards, gently?)

Well, I have no doubts that I haven't convinced you with that distinction between a lack of credible evidence (Mangum) and a presence of incredible evidence (Todd), but now, after revisiting that, I think we can all breathe a collective sigh of relief that the Pittsburgh PD or DA's office doesn't have a Nifong-type on its payroll.

A few differences Nick

First, if not foremost, is the difference in MSM coverage. I'll let you figure that one out on your own.

Second, Mangum accused actual people. Those player's lives are forever changed. The coach lost his job over a lie, and his kids still pay for it.

Third, the evidence "fell apart", your word about Todd, just as quickly. Which brings me back to the first point. Why, if you truly did not know about this then, can you find prominent retraction by the media??? Bias??? Yeah. That's why this site is here.

Lastly, I agree with you that there is not a "nifong" figure here, although it is a moot point. Todd did not finger real people.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Oh, and yes Nick

It renders every point you have made on this site moot. I don't believe for a second that you don't remember that case from a mere two years ago, as plastered as it was everywhere. At least Ubercon didn't try to make that lame assertion.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

oh, okay

So you think I'm a liar? But R1, you've seen me here before, you've seen me admit to not knowing things before. Heck, one of my first posts here was me admitting (to Noel) that I only skimmed his post ( http://newsbusters.o... ).

Frankly, while I have messed up some of my arguments (see my post re: Conservative economists prefer Obama--Noel pointed out that I didn't read the internals of that poll carefully enough: http://newsbusters.o... ), I feel like I've done enough to show good faith: never falsifying information (though sometimes needing a second-opinion/-reader), always either providing links to evidence or backing off claims I couldn't prove, and even providing evidence that might hurt my case (as when I showed that FactCheck.org, which I used as source of info, is funded by the same Annenberg Foundation that was behind the Chicago Annenberg Challenge: http://newsbusters.o... ).

So, given my past actions, I don't think you have any cause to be calling me a liar.

Now, getting back to the Duke Lacross rape scandal of 2006, your main point here is that the MSM treated that case differently (and that's why the lives of these real people are affected--because the MSM put their names out and treated the story without skepticism), whereas my main point is that the cases are different.

I'm not defending the reactions--some people jumped too quick to judge that case--and some of the ways that the case was covered, in terms of releasing people's names, for instance, was definitely wrong.

I guess what you see as bias, I see as another effect of the 24-hour news cycle trying to get people to watch with the most sensational edutainment the networks can find. (Except maybe now they've learned their lesson about vetting stories and holding off on stories that don't seem right.)

(As for retractions, corrections, or coverage of the exoneration of the players: here's CNN, http://www.cnn.com/2... , or if you prefer, a transcript of their international version, http://edition.cnn.c... ; here's an NPR story about the lacrosse team, which includes mention of the players' innocence, http://www.npr.org/t... ; here's a WaPo article about Nifong's sentencing, which includes mention of the players' innocence, http://www.washingto... ; here's the ABC news story about the exoneration, http://abcnews.go.co... . I mean, if you want to argue that they're not front-page news stories, you could argue that, but I don't think you can argue that no one covered the exoneration of the players. (Which is why I only bothered to post stories from the news organizations which most get charged with bias: CNN, NPR, WaPo, ABC. I mean, if these biased organizations wrotes articles about how the players are innocent, than other news organizations like Fox must have covered it as well.))

Nick,

I unfairly lumped you in with others on this site. For that, I apologize. I mean, you libs all look alike on the internet. :)

The timing of the MSM "learning their lesson", still seems fishy to me. They've known the lesson, but seem to only act on this info. when  liberals are the ones who may be tainted.

And those retractions you have linked to are not a prominent as the accusations in the first place.  

Anyway, sorry again for jumping off the handle.  

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

NL207

"They have uttered nary a peep about this case..." (The Duke Lacrosse case)

What's more, there retractions regarding have been minimal.

I have admitted my rush to comment, but the bias argument as to how the msm would cover it if it were reversed, still stands.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Ct...Hold On!!!

There may be something Fishy. I'm LOOKING into it!!!

Sooo...don't bash anybody...YET.  Megan Kelly on BOR said there MAY be some questions.  She is NO ditz.

Let's see what is up.

STILL...the premise still stands!!!

Ster.

 

Media Manipulation

Nich nick,

The media wont report it because it may be true, One of their Obama mad theives does not just an assault and robbery but a Hidious race crime against a poor white girl from Texas.

most likely the robber was dyslexic so to him the B was right side up and out.

Bad for Obamalicity.  mums the word on the big 3

it should not be reported as

it should not be reported as true or false until proven so...that is why we have police investigation and i am sure the officers involved are more than capable ...we had  a somewhat similiar incident around here some years back which unfortunetly turned out to be a hoax but quite a few individuals where slandered because too many believed the story as true without proof

It may have been faked and

It may have been faked and staged but it doesn't mean can't happen...

uh...

I assume you said the same thing about a McCain supporter yelling "kill him," semolina?

Never happened.

Never happened.

 Point out wherever I may

 Point out wherever I may have said it.  The lady may have faked the assault but it doesn't mean assaulting anyone over the elections can't happen.  These are dangerous time, agree?

Try again Nick Head...

 

Employing a typical, liberal tactic trying to bait someone into saying something he/she didn't.  Lame, Nick.  What part of "don't want to advocate violence" don't you understand?  

  

 

 

didn't make my point

sorry, Semolina, I may not have made the point well.

You said that just because this was a hoax, doesn't mean it couldn't happen. Now I agree with you in general, electoral violence could happen, and we should do all we can to make sure that it doesn't happen on either side.

(And one way to do that would be if we were not so quick to run with rumors and stories about violence that don't make sense.)

Now, onto the point where we might disagree: what I meant to ask above was, when you heard that Dana Millbank's story (about someone yelling "kill him") was disproven, did you say, "well it could happen"? (I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, man, I was asking you a question--hence the question mark at the end of that earlier post.) I mean, it was disproven in that case, but it could happen, correct? Someone could yell out "kill him," right? (I mean, people have already yelled out "terrorist" and, I think it was "treason" loud enough to be picked out by microphones.)

Or do you only see threats and violence coming from the left?

When I was an active duty MP

When I was an active duty MP I responded to many domestic violence calls.  From the picture, it looks fake.  First the backwards "B" looks to have been made while looking in the mirror and there is no swelling around the bruised eye and no broken blood vessels in the eye itself.  The face is to symetrical to have any swelling and, to me, looks fake.  Time will tell, but know the facts before spouting rage and making assumptions.

Pre Vote Violence just the beginning

Great article Noel.

With all the hype of violent McCain supporters agaist Barack supporters (of which there are not one actual report just rumors), it seems the only ones geting violent are Barak Obama supporters after all. In the last week I have read of 6 McCain supporters being harrased, beaten, shot up homes and now physically violated with the mark of the "B"east.

This is just the beginning.  If Obama loses his supporters will riot in the streets and kill many including white Obama supporters.  If he wins we will see the turn of racism(what we tern reverse racism) and all races but black races will be treated as scum of the earth by the new socialist black majority.  not only that we will see a collapse of the free market enterprise and the socialization of our Nation completed in the first 24 months of his presidency.

No matter who wins it is a lose lose situation

Chet

We need a new rule @ NB: Only one troll per thread.

:-) 

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

A tale of two newspapers

A tale of two newspapers continues... Left-wing rag Post-Gazette finally catches up with what the Tribune Review reported last night, by basically copying the Trib's story (see one of my posts below).

The Trib does its job as a reporter of news by trumping the PG (once again), updating their story with the following:

Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.

I encourage everybody to hold off judging whether this is a legit story or not. I am posting this to show how the PG does a half-assed quite often, while the Trib gets little credit for actually being a good newspaper, even though they are owned by the eveeeel Mellon-Scaife family.

 

 

»→ Right Rog

I was scraping my face in front of the mirror this morning and scratched a backwards "B" into it.

I ain't buying nuthin' yet.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

True or not...

...this story is about mental health and not about the candidates. I agree that the MSM likely would have jumped all over this if the political affiliations were reversed, but we have no way of knowing that for sure.

Neither candidate should even remotely be held responsible for what happened here, whatever the truth may be. Without witnesses or video, this incident should not have been a story until the facts would write it. Even then, neither candidate should be accountable for the actions of a zealot.

That doesn't change the fact that Obama sucks incredibly more than McCain, in my opinion.

Don't wanna advocate

Don't wanna advocate violence here but folks, here we are, what the f*** are we going to do when we are intimidated and harassed by Obamites?  Obama may have his qu'ran but in my Bible there is that passage about "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"...  

you don t want to advocate

you don t want to advocate violence...that is the meaning of an eye for an eye...that poor girl has problems and by no stretch would mccain be resposible,that would not have prevent people with exacting revenge for something that did not happen..your bible says an eye for an eye..it also says "vengence is mine sayeth the lord"..it would be nice if we remembered all the bible..

mirror image

I just viewed the photograph in a mirror, and indeed, the "B" is clearly seen correctly printed.

So unless the photograph was reversed (a possibility that hasn't been verified either way), or unless she did it in a trance while mumbling "redrum redrum," it would unfortunately appear that she did it while looking in a mirror.

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe