Finally, someone in the media accurately accused and challenged a member of Congress over his involvement and complicity in the current financial crisis.
As press member after press member has allowed Democrats to shamefully and erroneously blame the current crisis on George W. Bush, virtually nobody other than folks at Fox News has been willing to examine the role elected officials on the left side of the aisle have been playing for more than a decade in blocking tighter regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
That changed Thursday when Fox's Bill O'Reilly absolutely tore Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) apart concerning his involvement in the current fiasco (video embedded right):
O'REILLY: "Personal story" segment tonight, the financial chaos in this country is largely the fault of the citizens who cannot pay their obligations, banks who lent money to unqualified people, and the federal government which failed to provide oversight. Both political parties are to blame as I've stated.
Now "The Factor" has called on SEC Chairman Christopher Cox to resign, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd to quit, and House Finance Chief Barney Frank to step down from his position. That's because for the past two years, Frank and his committee oversaw Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two government sponsored lending agencies which pretty much are bankrupt. Congressman Frank was asked about Freddie and Fannie on July 14, 2008.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REP. BARNEY FRANK (D), MASSACHUSETTS: I think this is a case where Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound, that they are not in danger of going under. They're not the best investments these days from the long- term standpoint going back. I think they are in good shape going forward. They're in a housing market. I do think their prospects going forward are very solid. And in fact, we're going to do some things that are going to improve them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: Well, obviously, that statement turned out not to be true. Joining us now from Washington is Congressman Frank. And we appreciate you coming in, being a standup guy, but shouldn't everybody in the country be angry with you right now?
FRANK: No. You've misrepresented this consistently. I became chairman of the committee on January 31st, 2007. Less than two months later, I did what the Republicans hadn't been able to do in 12 years -- get through the committee a very tough regulatory bill. And it passed the House in May.
I've always felt two things about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, that they had an important role to play, but that the regulations should be improved.
Now from 1995 to 2006, when the Republicans controlled Congress, and we were in the minority, we couldn't get that done. Although in 2005, Mike Oxley, of Sarbanes-Oxley fame, a pretty tough guy on regulation, did try to put a bill through to regulate Fannie Mae. I worked with him on it. As he told "The Financial Times," he thought ideological rigidity in the Bush administration stopped that. But the basic point is that the first time I had any real authority over this was January of 2007. And within two months, we had passed the bill that regulated.
O'REILLY: OK. And that's true, all of that is true.
FRANK: And then also, one other point. The Senate was dragging its feet, as often happens. And in January of 2008, I asked Secretary Paulson to put in the stimulus bill. So the earliest chance I got to put tough regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we did it.
O'REILLY: All right, that's swell. But you still went out in July and said everything was great. And off that, a lot of people bought stock and lost everything they had.
FRANK: Oh, no.
O'REILLY: And -- yes, oh yes. Oh, yes.
FRANK: I said it wasn't a good investment.
O'REILLY: Don't give me any of that, we just heard the words. What are you.
FRANK: That's wrong.
O'REILLY: .that you didn't say that? You want me to play it again for you?
FRANK: You didn't listen to it.
O'REILLY: No, I listened to every word you said. And I have the transcript right here.
FRANK: No, and I said it wasn't a good investment.
O'REILLY: Yes, you said going forward, we're going to be swell. For look.
FRANK: No, I didn't say swell. Excuse me, Bill.
O'REILLY: .from August `07 to August '08.
FRANK: Excuse me, Bill.
O'REILLY: Don't - look, stop the B.S. here. Stop the crap! From August '07 to August '08.
FRANK: You know, here's the problem going on your show.
O'REILLY: .under your tutelage, this industry.
FRANK: Here is the problem going on your show.
O'REILLY: .declined 90 percent. 90 percent.
FRANK: Yes, but.
O'REILLY: Oh, none of this was your fault! Oh, no. People lost millions of dollars. It wasn't your fault. Come on, you coward! Say the truth.
FRANK: What do you mean coward?
O'REILLY: You're a coward. You blame everybody else. You're a coward.
FRANK: Bill, here's the problem with going on your show. You start ranting. And the only way to respond is almost to look as boorish as you. But here's the facts. I specifically said in the quote you just played that I didn't think it was a good investment. I wasn't telling anybody to buy stock. I said it wasn't a good investment.
Secondly, I wasn't presiding idly over this. I was trying to get the regulations adopted.
O'REILLY: Look.
FRANK: We got them adopted in May.
O'REILLY: Bottom line is you're there two years. Bottom line is stock drops 90 percent.
FRANK: Yes.
O'REILLY: In any private industry, you're out.
FRANK: No.
O'REILLY: In any private concern, you're out on your butt.
FRANK: No.
O'REILLY: But not here in the federal government.
FRANK: No.
O'REILLY: You can come in and make every excuse in the world.
FRANK: I'm not making excuses.
O'REILLY: .blame everybody else in the world and then call me boorish.
FRANK: I'm not going to be bullied by your ranting. You can rant all you want, you're not going to shut me up! The problem was that we passed in 1994, in fact.
O'REILLY: Now we're back to 1994. This is bull.
FRANK: Yes.
O'REILLY: This is why Americans don't trust the government.
FRANK: No, this is why your stupidity gets in the way of rational discussion.
O'REILLY: All right.
FRANK: The fact is it was 1994 that we passed a bill to tell the Fed to stop the subprime lending. We tried to get them to do it. The first time we were in power again in 2007, we passed the bill to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
O'REILLY: Look, Congressman.
FRANK: So during the two years I was there.
O'REILLY: .you tried to put a happy face on this in July.
FRANK: I'm not putting a happy face.
O'REILLY: You tried to - and now you won't take the.
FRANK: No.
O'REILLY: Look, at least Cox is man enough.
FRANK: I said.
O'REILLY: .to say he screwed up.
FRANK: Hey, Bill.
O'REILLY: You're not.
FRANK: This manliness stuff is very unbecoming from you. I don't see any.
O'REILLY: Cox is man enough to say he screwed up. You're not.
(CROSSTALK)
FRANK: You think toughness is yelling and ranting and trying to bully. It's not going to work with me. The fact is in the very quote you played, I said it's not a good investment. I tried to get the regulations adopted.
O'REILLY: You said going forward, it's going to be swell. And people under that bought stock in that, thought it was a good investment.
FRANK: I didn't say swell. I didn't say swell. No, I said in fact in that quote that you played and didn't listen to because you're busy ranting that it's not a good investment. I said that at the time. I did think we were going to improve things going forward. Yes, we had some things that needed improvement.
O'REILLY: All right, you want to - here, let me read you your quote here. OK? OK? "I do think the prospects going forward are very solid."
FRANK: But that's not the part about it not being a good investment.
O'REILLY: Now, people bought stock when you said that.
FRANK: You are distorting it. Bill, you're lying by your words.
O'REILLY: This is what you said.
FRANK: What about the part where.
O'REILLY: Not lying. And I played it and I read it.
FRANK: What about the part where I said it wasn't a good investment?
O'REILLY: You said it's not the best right now, but going forward this is going to be solid.
FRANK: Right..
O'REILLY: People lost millions.
FRANK: .(INAUDIBLE) right now. I didn't say solid, I didn't say swell. You distort consistently. And you think ranting and raving.
O'REILLY: All right.
FRANK: .you don't want to talk about 1994, like no history is relevant. The fact is that you had a problem with an administration - conservative.
(CROSSTALK)
O'REILLY: I know, it's all the conservatives, it's all the Republicans and not you.
FRANK: Oh, come on.
O'REILLY: None on you. That's a joke.
FRANK: You won't have a rational discussion.
O'REILLY: That's a joke.
FRANK: The joke is to think I could have a rational discussion with you.
O'REILLY: No, the joke is.
FRANK: You're ranting.
(CROSSTALK)
O'REILLY: Both parties are at fault, as I stated. But one guy Cox says yes, I screwed up.
FRANK: That's a totally different issue.
O'REILLY: And one guy Frank says it's everybody else's fault.
FRANK: No, I didn't say it was everybody else's fault.
O'REILLY: It's your fault.
FRANK: You are the most -- you don't listen at all, or maybe you are listening or you're too dumb to understand.
O'REILLY: I am too dumb, Congressman.
FRANK: The fact is that in - yes.
O'REILLY: No, you hit it, I'm too dumb. You're the brilliant guy.
FRANK: In 2007.
O'REILLY: You're the brilliant guy who presided over the biggest financial collapse in federal history.
FRANK: Oh, no, no, no.
O'REILLY: So you're the -- I'm the dumb guy. You're the brilliant guy.
(CROSSTALK)
FRANK: And the fact is.
O'REILLY: Congressman, thanks very much. We got to run.
Bravo, Bill. Outstanding.
The reality is that for the last three weeks, Americans have been lied to by folks on the left both in Washington and in the media. Since this crisis hit a head, the citizenry has been shamefully led to believe that this entire matter was precipitated by the Bush administration, and that Democrats were innocent of all wrongdoing.
Those of us in the know have been wondering when someone was going to finally challenge these folks. We can only hope that this is just the beginning, because the American people have a right to know that for many years, any attempt to reform or add tighter regulations to Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac was thwarted by Democrats.
In fact, this is so much so that if the American people actually were told the truth about the real foundation of today's financial industry meltdown we'd likely be looking at a Republican landslide at the polls next month.
Instead, our press have complicity added to the misinformation campaign of the Democrats, and shamefully hid the truth from the public.
Let's hope this is the beginning of light finally being shed on the disgraceful behavior of Democrats going back several administrations.
From this point forward, I would like to see press members specifically ask any Democrat blaming this problem on President Bush to name the piece of legislation signed into law since he was first inaugurated which led to this crisis.
Anything less is journalistic malpractice, and I imagine I speak for most Americans when I say enough is enough.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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BOR ripped Barney a.......
October 3, 2008 - 10:08 ET by BEGRUNTnew one, and left him stammering and studdering, unable to give a reasonable response. Frank knew he was caught, and tried to spin out of it. I hope people took notice, and DEMAND Frank step down as chairman. He had as much to do with this crisis as anyone.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
What did you expect?
October 3, 2008 - 10:24 ET by pwozThat idiot is on Maher's garbage show every other week.
»→ pwoz
October 3, 2008 - 11:29 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe the Playboy mansion is just a cover.
Kill Bill II - Stop the bailout
Maher's garage show
October 3, 2008 - 14:23 ET by WesenI caught an interview last night where Maher admitted to the habits of a pot head. He likes smoking dope "where it is legal". It's no wonder his mind has been taken over by aliens. Here's a tip for the DEA: search his boat.
McCain needs to run with the Leprechaun's lead and go after the Dem policies that got us here. I was surprised Palin didn't do it last night.
He Should Run
October 3, 2008 - 10:09 ET by Gat New YorkOn a day when I realized that McCain would probably not win, O'Reilly's full throated exchange with the deplorable Barney Frank was perfect.
It also made me realize that this is the tenor McCain's campaign should be operating on. How dare you allow Democrats to lie to the american public about who caused this economic problem.
This was NOT a problem of too little regulation - it was a problem of just too much government interference with business. And Barney Frank was front and center for years.
So maybe we should have Bill O'Reilly run for President.
Well
October 3, 2008 - 10:50 ET by cvgbuckeyeWell, this I have to say. Outside of Sarah Palin's daddy, there cannot be a stronger supporter than I. Now, I don't expect Sarah or John McCain to take the same tone as B O BUT for God's sake, when are they going to start to fight back...................JUST A LITTLE???? Is that to much to ask.
Biden left open more huge holes than Michigan's defensive line and Sarah, God love her, you could just tell she was being restrained....just like McCain in his last debate. C/mon kids, HIT THEM IN THE MOUTH!
If McCain does not intend to fight for this election and for Conservatives, then why didn't he just drop aside and let Romney or somebody else have the nomination and save us all the grief. HE WON"T FIGHT, HE OBVIOUSLY won't allow Sarah to fight and we are going to get whipped like a red-headed step-child and end up with a Marxist government.
If everybody shares the values of the MSM, Hollywood and the world of George Soros, then you will love where we are bound for with the kind of campaign that John is conducting. AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE 527's? The only ones fighting are Conservative talk show hosts.
HEY JOHN - WAKE UP - EITHER LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY and let Sarah do it!
Sad Commentary
October 3, 2008 - 11:08 ET by Gat New YorkI think the unprecendented double punch of an candidate combined with 90% of the media as a personal propaganda machine has overwhelmed McCain. He seems very lost. Much the same way Bush Sr. seemed this time in '92 against Bubba.
The Obama campaign are calling McCain old, sick, out of touch, not a maverick, and are willfully lying about his record. and his answer is "life isn't fair."
I believe that supporters of 527 groups have backed off to save their money seeing McCain losing his grip. And where is the RNC? Do we have a chairman?
I hate to say this, but my gut feeling is that this campaign will be over Wednesday night in Belmont and we will be facing four years of a disaster in DC of Obama - Pelosi - Reid.
Ranting ...
October 3, 2008 - 10:12 ET by GOPG8RThat clip was impossible for me to watch. Barney Frank deserves to be questioned about his comments regarding Freddie and Fannie ... but not like that. Frank came off sounding like the reasonable one. And, to me, the quote that O'Reilly was using wasn't the most effective one to use against Franks. What about all the quotes from Frank and other ranking Democrats from 2004? The quotes where they are going on and on about there not being any problems with Frannie and Freddie? And that they didn't need any more regulations?
Those are the quotes that need to be thrown in Frank's face, IMO.
BOR is not my favorite ...
October 3, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Meanderingwhen it comes to his practices of yelling and all that, but Barney deserved it. Our economy is in the toliet because the democrats. Once they regained the power in congress our economy got flushed down the crapper and NO ONE is holding their feet to the flames. So while I'm not for hit tactics, I still say GOOD JOB BILL!
BOR
October 3, 2008 - 10:31 ET by Copperhead RidgeI don't like all the shouting either, but I think there's only one way to get to a horse's ass like Barney Frank. That's by yelling at him.
I don't think there's a more loathsome creature in the Congress right now than Barney Frank.
I once offended a room full of liberals when some asked me about Congressman Armey slipping and referring to his colleague as "Barney Faaa..." I said, "Gee, I know how much Barney likes Dick."
I feared for my life for a second or two, then I realized they were liberals and would rather whine than take action.
at least Bill makes an
October 3, 2008 - 10:38 ET by TruthMongerat least Bill makes an effort - but he left out tons of much more juicy material - and so this meek point along with the ranting will get virtually no traction
is this the best conservative TV can do? sad...
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Agree with you about the
October 3, 2008 - 10:38 ET by BuffNBoneAgree with you about the quote not being the best one available. The 2004 comments are powerful, but dated. The tradeoff was the currency of what he went with. Those words happened on the dems' watch--when they had control of the House and could set the agenda.
BOR's too sold on himself. I much prefer the earlier version. He's milking his verbal intercourse with Obama more than it is worth. Those things have a half-life and there isn't enough radient energy to light a wrist-watch. Don't care for Frank at all but he came close to a tie as BOR seemed to lose it. If you've got the goods, let them speak for themselves.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
GOPG8R,
October 3, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Indiana JoeWelcome, I haven't seen you post before, but I like to welcome newcomers. This is a great site, IMHO.
You make some good points, but maybe a little hard on BOR. I'm not a huge fan, but in this case, I'd say he wasn't really prepared for Frank to just weasel like he did. He probably should have been, but that's my take. If so, he could have been prepared with the data you suggest.
All BOR wanted was for Frank to just say, "yeah, I kind of misstated that," or "I can see how that was misunderstood," even. But to flat deny he claimed it was a "good investement going forward" caught Bill by surprise, I think. And O'Reilly wasn't going to let him get away with that. Good for him.
It is a little painful to watch, because Barney seems to keep his cool. But, for myself, I was glad to see someone finally call him on this to his face. We know he's been lying and playing the blame game, and I actually wish BOR had kept hitting him even harder. You see how Barney objected to the "being a man" thing? I was expecting him to accuse O'Reilly of "gay-bashing" or some such BS. I think he almost went there.
Barney is a consummate politician, so he wasn't going to get as vehement as BOR. BOR seemed more like "everyman," not interested in excuses or finger-pointing, just "mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore!"
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
Frank ...
October 4, 2008 - 11:03 ET by GOPG8RThanks for the welcome! I completely believe that Frank got what he deserved in the interview but that no one ... NO ONE ... is calling the Dems out on all their "de-regulation" crap. When there is quote after quote of the Dems wanting no inquiry into Frannie and Freddie, saying nothing is wrong with them ... why in the world is McCain allowing Obama, etc. to say deregulation is at fault?? I know they are saying now that it is "racist" to talk about it but what a load of crap.
Anyway, I just wish O'Reilly would have stayed calmer and done a more effective interview with Frank. There are so many things that could be used against Frank. So many ways to show he is a LIAR but the rest of the press isn't taking him on. They offer him a huge platform to spew his deregulation crap and then O'Reilly has a chance to correct it ... and instead screams at him. Granted, that's all I have been doing at my TV set when Frank comes on. :o)
GOPG8R
October 3, 2008 - 23:49 ET by Rush FanI agree with you completely. O'Reilly did not seem to have many facts about Fannie and Freddie at his disposal during his "interview" with Barney Franks.
Why didn't he play the clips you mentioned that I've seen on other FoxNews shows where Franks and other Democrats are not only indicating that there is no problem with Freddie and Fannie, but during congressional hearings are shown ranting at Bush administration officials for wanting to add more controls and oversight. There was a multitude of clips and other factual information O'Reilly could have thrown at Franks. Instead Bill O'Reilly chose to use his usual technique of skipping the facts and using just anger. By the way, you have got to give credit to Franks for coming on the show and lying throughout the segment.
Bill O'Reilly's anger and yelling might have made for good TV and Youtube clip, but it was not effective in showing the responsibility of Franks and other Congressional Democrats for the ultimate failure of these government sponsored lending agencies. Unfortunately, he is not going to get a second chance at Franks or any Democrat involved in this mess.
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Calm and cool
October 4, 2008 - 23:12 ET by Jerry MackIf BOR had been calm and cool it would not have received as much attention. Franks must be worried or he would not have done the show.
I saw this clip
October 3, 2008 - 10:13 ET by MeanderingBill ripped into Barney for being a coward and its about time. This bumbling moron can't even admit when he's wrong and that's what we expect out of our politicians. He should be fired and thrown out of congress. He said in the clip that Freddie and Fanny are sound and will not go under, but they did and he wouldn't admit any wrong doing. Good job Bill! Keep them liberals accountable for their crappy job on the economy.
Did you see Dennis Miller on Leno last night. It was so refreshing to hear a pro-McCain stance from a comedian for once. It was great!
Reminds me of the song from
October 3, 2008 - 10:34 ET by motherbeltReminds me of the song from "The King and I"....
He will not always say
What you would have him say,
But now and then he'll say...
Something wonderful!
Just when I think I can't take Bill O any more, he goes and does something like this and redeems himself a little bit!
I don't watch him any more, because moments like this are too few and too far between. But I will give him credit where it's due.
Apparently,
October 3, 2008 - 10:35 ET by Meanderingthis is the only way to talk to democrats, by yelling. I'm surprised that these guys still agree to go on his show.
Bill held back
October 3, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Fist of EtiquetteI'm not the biggest fan of O'Reilly, but seriously, he was just trying to get Frank to admit some culpability in the situation, and the man wouldn't do it. He was more interested in scoring as many political points as he could get away with by tossing blame to everyone but himself or his party.
I would have blown up at the congressman, too.
Frankly Frank goes
October 3, 2008 - 10:21 ET by nicksmith112Frankly Frank goes everywhere else in the corrupt media and blames the Republicans.
No-spin Barney...answer the question....lol.
Has any of the big media outlets other than Fox pointed out the Democrooks culpability and corruption at Fannie and Freddie???
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
Barney the Blue State Dinosaur
October 3, 2008 - 10:32 ET by Copperhead RidgeBarney seems to protest too much.
I was frankly loosing hope
October 3, 2008 - 10:17 ET by nicksmith112I was frankly loosing hope that Bill would ever go after the Democrooks.
Clearly Bill O was laying in the weeds and Barney and his people took the bait.....lol.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
»→ Bill O
October 3, 2008 - 12:25 ET by Cool ArrowClearly Bill got soaked with some bad info and the portfolio lost some bucks.
Kill Bill II - Stop the bailout
I can't watch BOR anymore,
October 3, 2008 - 10:32 ET by R D HelmI can't watch BOR anymore, but I'm glad he stuck it to Frank, possibly the most worthless excuse for a congress critter since Cynthia McKinney.
I think Cox, Dodd, Frank, Paulson, Raines and the rest should be under investigation for all this.
Hell, Raines should probably be riding a bench in the federal pokey for his role in the "creative accounting" that went on at Fannie Mae.
I know it won't happen, but still.
-Dave
Palin/Anybody other than McCain in '08
I think Cox, Dodd, Frank,
October 3, 2008 - 10:36 ET by motherbeltI think Cox, Dodd, Frank, Paulson, Raines and the rest should be under investigation for all this.
Hell, aren't Cox and Dodd running this investigation????
And aren't Raines and Paulson the ones who they want to fix it????
This is Bizzaro World!
mb, forgive me.
October 3, 2008 - 10:40 ET by R D HelmLOL-For a fleeting moment I was operating under the delusion that this was still a sane world.
Sorry. Won't happen again.
-Dave
Palin/Anybody other than McCain in '08
R-D, That kind of thinking,
October 3, 2008 - 12:19 ET by IamTinmanwhile noble is just wrong on so many levels.
Any more fleeting moments and you will go on triple probation.
“Republicans study the financial pages of the newspaper. Democrats put them in the bottom of the bird cage.”
Dave,
October 3, 2008 - 11:49 ET by Indiana Joe"Hell, Raines should probably be riding a bench in the federal pokey for his role in the "creative accounting" that went on at Fannie Mae."
"Creative accounting," that's the hook I was looking for! BOR should have asked Barney what the difference was between this fiasco, and Enron.
Answer: This was a betrayal of the whole American people by their own government!
And they (Barney, too, IIRC) wanted Cheney and Bush to do a "perp walk" for that one. Well, we know the "perps" this time. Where's the "walk," Barney?
It would have been priceless.
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
Cavuto would have probably nailed him. BOR doesn't have the...
October 3, 2008 - 22:08 ET by R D Helm...knowledge to.
After all, BOR is still railing against eeeeevil "Big Oil."
-Dave
Palin/Anybody other than McPork in '08
They keep leaving out one of the causes
October 3, 2008 - 10:34 ET by c5thenThe democrats in the late 90's forced through a provision in an amendment to a totaly unrelated bill wording that required Fannie and Freddie to loan a certain % of their $$$ to sub-prime customers. This was supposed to be good for poorer Americans to help them buy their first house.
The sub-prime loan crisis was created by the very liberals who are today wringing their hands at the mess and pointing fingers of blame at everyone else.
Great Point
October 3, 2008 - 10:37 ET by MeanderingIts high time the democrats that made this mess be held accountable for ther horrid job their doing. We need more of these type of questions posed to them instead of how difficult it was for them in their youth. What kind of questions are these? I'm sure it was tough for Obama growing up in HAWAII! Idiot of a question.
No, no, c5! It's the
October 3, 2008 - 10:37 ET by motherbeltNo, no, c5! It's the failed (Bush) policies of the past eight years!!!
Did you notice those were the FIRST words out of Biden's mouth last night?
c5, don't hold your breath waiting for the MSM to report that.
October 3, 2008 - 10:38 ET by R D HelmAs that would lay the blame for the mortgage mess squarely in the lap of those truly responsible:
The Left.
-Dave
Palin/Anybody other than McCain in '08
c5then,
October 3, 2008 - 11:58 ET by Indiana JoeThis is just another reason this "bundling" BS has got to stop. It's also the reason that Biden could make a brain-dead charge like "McCain voted against funding the troops," and have ANY credibility about it. He didn't mention that it was part of an unacceptable package, and was funded later, when McCain did vote for it. People just look at the vote, and believe the lies. They don't know any better, and they're not interested in learning.
People have no idea how Congress works, how laws are passed, or what's really in them. Federal laws have become incomprehensible labyrinths, written by lawyers to be interpreted by lawyers, loaded with every pie-in-the-sky, hare-brained idea that you could possibly imagine. It's just one more example of how this government of "We, the People" has completely escaped the control of the people it's supposed to be comprised of and working for.
And it won't get any better if left up to "government" to fix it. Time for "the People" to wake up, and grab the reins of this runaway stagecoach.
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
It is about time!
October 3, 2008 - 10:36 ET by Spinningplates2Bill has been too long sitting back trying not to seem, "right wing." Now the Democratic craziness has left him no choice but reality. Still, Bill has to blame both side equally.
When is he going to learn? It will not make the Left accept him to share the blame. For the Left to ever love him, and that is what Bill wants, he will have to only abuse the Right.
p.s. I'm guessing Barney is the "girl" in his "gay" relationships.
It was an absolute joy to watch.
October 3, 2008 - 10:36 ET by JWFI was having to much fun. I had to take a break.
Finally someone is angrier than I am.
That is why I listen to Mark Levin too. For an hour, I don't have to be angry anymore, Mark does it for me.
Barney Frank had it coming and he needs more.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
JWF... Same here...when
October 3, 2008 - 10:43 ET by bigtimerJWF...
Same here...when we watched this last night we were cheering out loud!!!!
If more in the msm had the guts to just speak the truth instead of pussy-footing around these congress-critters who should be held accountable we wouldn't be in at least half of the messes they make for us out here, like they are attempting to do to us right this second on the House floor with Barney's Bail-Out bill...he is speaking as I talk...
Please people, call, we have less than an hour left to let them hear our voices...which are much needed right now.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Blame?
October 3, 2008 - 10:44 ET by concerned citizenNoel,
I enjoy reading your blog, especially your global warming stuff. I loved that O'Reilly blasted Frank over this. He deserved it. When he goes on record as saying "everything is fine, nothing to see here" in July and then Freddie/Fannie require a HUGE federal bailout, he deserves some blame, and he should own up to that. At the least, he could say "yes I said that, and I said that to avoid a panic" or whatnot, but he basically washes his hands of the issue.
However, as a deliberate moderate, I try to ignore the partisan BS in all of this. It seems to me that both parties are up to their necks in this, and the Reps at least equally so. When a single party controls both houses and the White House and then blames a single representative for "preventing" it from passing legislation that seems to be complete BS to me. We didn't buy that argument on the bailout a few days ago when the Dems used it (the Reps stopped us from passing this bill!), so why should we now cut the Reps slack on this? They were steering the ship for six years, they saw the financial storm mounting, and they didn't do much.
In fairness to Frank, when he took over as Finance committee chairman, he did propose more oversight of Freddie/Fannie. I don't know the particulars of how that legislation got killed, etc. I also don't know the particulars of the 2005 regulation bill that got killed. It would be great to hear all of the particulars. But I'd like these particulars put into context. When one party "kills" a bill, it's often because there is something else in the bill that is very unpalatable. And the party pushing it knows that. So when they push something that makes a statement "Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae need more regulating" when they know that the bill is poisoned, they are basically doing it to say "hey, we tried" later when things fall apart. This suggests strongly that the Reps knew something was very wrong as early as 2003 and didn't do enough. It also suggests that Frank’s bill might have been poisoned as well. Either way, I don't buy the argument that it is mostly the Dems fault. But I also don't buy the Dems saying they have "zero" responsibility in this and blaming a recession that Bush inherited on his "failed economic policies".
Check this out
October 3, 2008 - 11:57 ET by kirch66Here's the actual bill that was shot down. The unpalatable part was they didn't want to have oversight to bring out all of the money they were getting paid to turn a blind eye.
Bill Summary
This whole thing started back in the Carter Administration and it was continued during Clinton. Both Bush AND McCain warned of a problem with this years ago but couldn't get anything done because of the thin (one seat) majority in the Senate for the four years the Reps had control. This is of course due to some RINOs as well. But the facts show McCain was adament about trying to prevent this from happening and the Dems actively prevented it from happening.
Link
[McCain] hammers the falsification of financial records to benefit executives, including Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both of whom have worked as advisers to Barack Obama this year. (source)
Current members of Congress have received a total of $4.8 million from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, with Democrats collecting 57 percent of that. Campaign Contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to Lawmakers: Link
The willful blindness of the MSM in all of this is criminal in and of itself!
"The moment you give up your principles and your values, the moment you laugh at those principles and those values, you are dead, your culture is dead, your civilization is dead. Period." - Oriana Fallaci
GREAT links, kirch,
October 3, 2008 - 12:23 ET by Indiana JoeI've been wanting those, thanks. And you're right, the Dems wielded the "filibuster-in-name"* with wild abandon, willing to let the whole thing go to Hell, just so they could "blame Bush." So, here we are, and here they are, and people are falling for it, with the complicity of the MSM.
And they wonder why so many of us are p*ssed-off?
*- They should go back to the old-fashioned way; talk for hours, or yield the floor and vote, dammit! This "cloture" nonsense just creates the "gridlock" everyone claims to be against.
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
Frank is out of touch
October 3, 2008 - 11:03 ET by Pha PhaFrank is my congressman is MA. He is the most obnoxious person I have ever dealt with. He does have a Republican challenger this year. And I hope the people in the 4th discrict vote him out.
I have actually called his office and spoke with him about a few issues and the same thing, its the Bush administration's fault. Bla Bla bla.
I almost reach inside my TV last night to smack him around.
The McCain campaign needs to start acting the same way.
Way to go Bill, keep it up.
Pha Pha,
October 3, 2008 - 12:16 ET by Indiana JoeYou have my sympathy, with Frank as your rep. I have a bone-head named Visclosky, he's about as bad, but doesn't even have the seniority (or initiative) to have some actual power to matter. Just another reliable "D" vote.
People like Frank and others make the idea of real "change" a sad joke. As long as seniority equals power in Congress, we're stuck with career politicians who can "bring home the bacon" for the folks who don't get that Congress is a United States body, supposed to make decisions for the whole country.
It will take a major "change" to have any real effect on that.
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré
Pha Pha and Indiana Joe
October 4, 2008 - 00:16 ET by Rush FanMy sympathies to you both. I share your pain for one of my Senators is named -------------------------BARBARA BOXER!
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The most important change we can make is to vote out the Democrats and RINOs in Congress!
Expect MSM to declare BOR to be homophobic today...
October 3, 2008 - 11:14 ET by retroconNotice how Barney gay-baited BOR?
"FRANK: This manliness stuff is very unbecoming from you."
»→ retro
October 3, 2008 - 11:20 ET by Cool ArrowThere were over a dozen great comebacks on that one.
"And you really know manliness, Senator"
Kill Bill II - Stop the bailout
"Thank you for putting
October 3, 2008 - 13:55 ET by Jack BauerIs what I might have said in riposte to Fannie Frank's assinine comment!
Finally -- hell hath no fury like a taxpayer scorned!!!!
October 3, 2008 - 11:20 ET by attorneygirlI was thrilled to see O'Reilly dig into that slime bag lying bastard Barney Frank.
Finally, someone held Barney Frank to the fire.
We need more of it.
I'm sick and tired of the entire country cow-towing to the Democrat Senate---and of not laying out to average Americans who watch ABC, CBS and NBC--exactly how this fiasco occurred: Carter, Clinton, Community Reinvestment Act, . . . .
Finally, Bill O'Reilly showed some balls in attacking that lame lying bastard. (Yes, I'm cursing. I've never been angrier. Ever. We are being ripped off by the billions of dollars today folks. It's like a horror movie where I'm screaming but no one can hear me.)
A lost opportunity
October 3, 2008 - 12:01 ET by ckbennetttnI will definitely vote McCain. I do believe, however, that this bailout thing has been a terrible lost opportunity for him. At a time when most of this country is opposed to the bailout (one of our TN congressmen says calls to his office have been over 2000 opposed, with only 34 in favor of the bailout), McCain has been in support of it, just like Obama. This bailout has become the central issue in the campaign, rightly or wrongly, and he has not differentiated himself from Obama on this. When all the talk has been to end "politics as usual in Washington" and the American people see this bailout as just that-politics as usual, McCain could've stood up and sided with us on this. This would have shown him as the "maverick," the true "change we need-(ugh)" candidate. Some would say that this would mean disowning some of his past positions. However, the clout he would gain from siding against the bailout in its bloated form would be considerable. Unfortunately, I believe this issue has made some conservative leaning independents say "What's the difference?"
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” --Thomas Sowell
Fannie Frank -- another
October 3, 2008 - 13:43 ET by Jack BauerFannie Frank -- another great (sic) product of Harvard. They are SO clever y'know!
The august body must be so proud that so many alumnus are doing their damndest to ruin America.
I hear ya
October 4, 2008 - 00:30 ET by general companyIt's like a horror movie where I'm screaming but no one can hear me.)
Fat lot of good it does either of us though. Turn them over, work hard to do so!!
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Bwannie, address your conflict of interest w/ former sex partner
October 3, 2008 - 11:33 ET by antivenom.frBwannie Fwank needs to address how his former homosexual relationship ...was EXTREMELY inappropriate due to the "conflict of interest"...
IMHO - Bwannie Fwank really doesn't think "sticking it to the American public" is that bad...he is warped enough to believe that some of us...might like it?!?
anti... Yeah, I was
October 3, 2008 - 11:45 ET by bigtimeranti...
Yeah, I was hoping for the same thing, I knew it wouldn't, but just once I wished some people in the msm would quit being so afraid to bring up this issue just because he is gay...
...the left has no trouble if/when the situations were reversed now do they?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
This is what the democrats
October 3, 2008 - 11:46 ET by play21cwThis is what the democrats do, they blame everyone else and name call. Obama did this in his interview with O'Reilly when he wouldn’t admit he was wrong that the surge succeeded. O’Reilly did a good job, Frank was dumbfounded, I give him credit for entering the no spin zone, but that shows how dumb he is, if he expected to go on without being torn to pieces, that is a true testament to his stupidity. Then you have this POS Frank who was in charge during the biggest financial collapse in fed history, you know damn well that if it were a republican they would have been under investigation. Liberal methodology - "When its our fault blame everyone else, or hide it. When its the Republicans fault blame, investigate, get the MSM to report, play sound clips, distort facts, etc.. " There is no winning it will always be an uphill battle, is it true that liberalism is a mental disorder? Its time that McCain starts really reaming the democrats for their failed policies, for THEIR mistakes, for Obamas ties & lies to Fannie/Freddie, ACORN, Terrorists, etc.. He needs to really ramp this up & spread the word.... I'm hoping that is part of his October Surprise.
The 10 act liberal play ... nicely documented..
October 3, 2008 - 11:51 ET by pmohbuckpatented 10-act liberal play was displayed on o'reilly:
Act 1. starts with liberal (insert any name) running his/her mouth about their position on an issue when it is favorable to him/her ... denounces other guy/gal as being unconcerned, partisan, stupid (insert any insulting/deragatory noun or adjective) for disagreeing
Act 2. the *hit hits the fan ... liberal seeks use of media allies to present case to masses ... without thought, liberal blames "the other guy" ... accepts no responsibility whatsoever
Act 3. tape or recording is brought forward, clearly implicating said liberal in incident ... liberal continues to run mouth and point blame
Act 4. liberal confronted with evidence and asked to accept responsibility
Act 5. liberal reactively and defensively goes on the attack ... blames "other guy" more profusely
Act 6. proof provided ... clearly implicating liberal in fiasco
Act 7. liberal pulls direct quotes from liberal playbook to simultaneously defend self, attack critics and still blame the "other guy" (ex. "you've put spin on my words" "you've taken my words out-of-context" "you're just like them")
Act 8. when critic presses even more ... the liberal goes into full-defensive meltdown mode phase I ... voices are raised and political name-calling begins ... the trains is beginning to derail
Act 9. when liberal realizes critic will not succumb refusal to accept ANY accountabiliy ... liberal incorporates phase II of full-defensive meltdown mode which includes child-like name calling, loudly delivered with a full-whine tone ... this is a two-pronged attempt aimed at luring critic into a playground-level screaming match and move away from the issue at hand: the liberal's accountablity for failure
Act 10. when liberal realizes that critic will not succumb to the baby-blitzkreig and that the ever-important image is going to be tarnished ... liberal opts to use a scorched-earth withdrawal or pull the liberal parachute and bail out all together.
these plays are very successful:
the entertainment factors for these plays are high
the acting is superb (the liberal always wins new followers who succumb to the portrayal of concern and compassion)
they have a high success rate in acheiving the liberal goal: people remember the exchange more than the issue and the liberal is allowed to continue to crusade "for the people"
O'rielly for ambassador of butt-kicking
October 3, 2008 - 12:12 ET by OhmingWhen you get right down to it, I think the liberals intentionally missbehave just to fell that conservative "Thundering Velevet Hand" Thanks for calling these goons for thier deeds O'rielly, keep it up.
Point of Disagreement
October 3, 2008 - 12:34 ET by NeoConfirmedBOR is a boar...he isn't a conservative and BRAGS that he isn't
October 3, 2008 - 13:37 ET by antivenom.frBOR, is in a quandry...he will NEVER be insightful or as powerful as Rush. PERIOD!
Rush is a "conservative" and the BOR brags he is a "registered" independent...(in my world that translates into)..."someone in the middle of the road begging to get hit"...or "a person on a fence with a huge wedgiein his butt" ...BOR is simply "wishy washy" and nothing more than a blowhard who regularly badgers guests by talking over and around them to his liking (claiming to give them the last word) and then tosses the people off after he has used and abused them.
Funny he now has to rely on the assinine "trivia segment" and (god bless him) Dennis Miller, and the "body language" women because he has more and more TV time he can't fill with people who "want to be on his show".
In a few years the BOR show will be nothing more than a night time version of the "View" where you have a primary person preaching to the choir and one outsider and then occasionaly a poor fool who will stumble onto the set so they can be ripped to shreds by the choir.
The amazing thing is Bill has to rely on visual antics, for if you have ever listened to his radio show, he is full of UMMs and other dead space laced inbetween his insipid comments of the day.
Rush is the premier radio talent and his success has proven it to be so.
Oh and it didn't "help" BOR to insult and attack Free Republic and "equate" them with being as hateful as the Dummies at DU and the KOS nuts.
BOR is a fool with a big mouth.
Completely Disagree
October 3, 2008 - 13:41 ET by NeoConfirmedI notice how you skipped over the part of Rush having liberal guests on his show. Does he or doesn't he? And if so, who?
Rush doesn't have guests - he is talk show host
October 3, 2008 - 14:04 ET by antivenom.frUmmmm it is apparent you don't understand the difference between a "radio talk show host" and a "tv program host".
Rush entertains LIBERAL guests DAILY sometimes even "hourly", when people call to talk with him.
Rush is a conservative with uncompromised values, whereas BOR is a wishy washy middle of the road tv host who relies on badgering people on TV to a point where he behaves like an assh#$ and "pretend he is looking out for us"...give me a break...me thinks that BOR made a bad investment and lost many dollars and he wants a whipping boy.
Thank goodness Rush is more professional than BOR and doesn't have to rely on such antics.
BOR is at a point where he will soon be competing with another loose nut..."Michael Savage".
Your spinning
October 3, 2008 - 14:18 ET by NeoConfirmedYou are wrong. O'Reilly is
October 3, 2008 - 14:29 ET by play21cwYou are wrong. O'Reilly is not a loose nut, he is an accomplished journalist, he reports both sides of the story. HE is doing what the MSM isnt, and that is asking real questions that people want to know the answers to, the MSM has a democrat on and compliments them on everything, they dont bring up the negative. If a republican is on they go crazy, its one sided. BOR actually has a pair and stands up to democrats and republicans alike.
I wonder why the O'Reilly Factor is the highest rated cable news program time and time again. Can you answer that?
Play 21
October 3, 2008 - 14:35 ET by NeoConfirmedEXACTLY!
October 3, 2008 - 14:44 ET by play21cwEXACTLY!
EXACTLY!
October 3, 2008 - 14:44 ET by play21cwEXACTLY!
allow me to love
October 3, 2008 - 13:36 ET by JIMMY1660allow me to love America
O'Reilly places the blame where it belongs, no matter who.
Barney Franks History reveals a man of very low moral character, which explains his reaction to O'Reilly's finger pointing. He has never been held accountable. His hands are very dirty, along with others.
Most of his history would put us in jail as he walks.
It looks like the FBI is looking into this, and perhaps they will find the truth and reveal it to us. With any luck Frank will be removed from office, with a lot of luck he will do the ENRON perp walk.
Seen the latest on Barney?
October 3, 2008 - 17:05 ET by retroconHis former gay partner worked at Fannie Mae from 1991 to 1998.
He was responsible for coming up with creative ways to give loans to low income folks.
Yes, while Barney was on the committee overseeing it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
Oh, and a good quote from Bill Clinton:
"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."
i understand your point, but ...
October 3, 2008 - 13:58 ET by pmohbuckeach person has his/her own rationale for who's more tolerable. i listen to all of them (2 hours of driving to/from work give me that ability) ... i have a take on each one:
limbaugh - yeah, arrogant ... but only to a degree. he offsets his ego with the saracastic delivery. i find that he is more concise with his thoughts and presents them more clearly ... he IS very intelligent and he doesn't compromise on his system of beliefs ... i honestly believe the driving factor behind people not wanting to be on his show is ... fear. he's the king of talk radio, he set the tone for all the others ... and he knows it. the best part of his show is when he plays the paul shanklin tunes or when he mimics people. i also love all the nicknames ... dingy harry, lindsey grammnesty, etc.
hannity - seems like a descent man, he makes sense, but his delivery is a little to whiney for me. he makes excellent points, but he's too gushy sometimes (the "you're a great american" thing is annoying). he is also very intelligent and seems to appeal to women a lot more than others. "hannity and colmes" is really where this guy shines IMHO.
o'reilly - i like his bellicose nature ... he's a big man, so he comes across as someone who can physically back up his words (and he's irish). however, his size and attitude combined = bully ... this scares the hell out of liberals, so he has to pander to them with the "no spin" BS. on many occasions, i feel he talks down to his own co-horts on his radio show and sounds like a father talking to a child sometimes. he's definately full of himself, and his methods do allow him to appear more "fair", thus allowing a large variety of people willing to talk to him.
savage - honestly, i like some of the things he says, but he sounds so damn bitter and all-knowing that i envision him wearing a lab coat broadcasting from a dank, candle-lit studio in his basement. he's condescending to a large degree and although he really has a good take on some issues ... i'm sure he scares the hell out of people. he appears to agree with no one but himself and the rare caller he does get along with can usually be described as a middle-aged, single man with a high-degree of education who also prefers the cofines of his own dank, candle-lit basement.
beck - this guy is good ... he makes a lot of sense and articulates his feelings well. humor in his delivery make him enjoyable to listen to.
the rest: boortz, medved, bennett, ingraham, etc. - solid radio shows, but i don't get the chance to listen to them as much.
bottom line ... to me, conservative talk shows have a little testosterone to them ... the hosts rarely, if every, come across like whiney pipsqueaks ... they come across as confident, intelligent and firm. liberal talk shows are pity-parties where everyone seems to a victim in one way or another ... the liberal hosts seem to actually believe they are smarter than everyone and they are always right ... as a friend of mine says: "liberals ... all protest, no debate"
Thanks Pmo
October 3, 2008 - 14:22 ET by NeoConfirmedNeoConfirmed
October 4, 2008 - 02:57 ET by Rush FanPerhaps you would be interested in reading a recent and quite informative article about Rush Limbaugh.
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The most important change we can make is to vote out the Democrats and RINOs in Congress!
Get a chance to listen to
October 3, 2008 - 19:14 ET by dlombardGet a chance to listen to Andrew Wilcow? This man is so sharp that if Limbaugh ever retires, he should get his spot.
"Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words." Proverbs 23:9
Try Mark Levin
October 3, 2008 - 20:27 ET by TheHistorianTry Mark Levin. While he is as loud as O'Reilly, he also has an excellent mind.
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel
Yeah, Levin is one of my
October 3, 2008 - 20:39 ET by bigtimerYeah, Levin is one of my fav's too..I also like Steyn when he takes the place for Rush, wished he had his on show.
Beck is another one I enjoy...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Whoa Nelly, hold up there girl.
October 3, 2008 - 23:48 ET by JWFUh, hello?
You did not mention the great one, Mark Levin. You want testosterone, there ya go.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
BOR really ripped Barney a
October 3, 2008 - 12:59 ET by SickofLibsBOR really ripped Barney a new one, which I'm sure he will make good use of.
»→ Funny SOL
October 3, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Cool ArrowAnd I've got the perfect VIDEO for Barney.
Kill Bill II - Stop the bailout
Reforming/regulating Fannie/Freddie in 2005 or earlier...
October 3, 2008 - 13:28 ET by geokster...would have actually brought the financial crisis to a head much sooner. The only reason it was allowed to build until it was too big for anyone to cover was that Fannie and Freddie were buying up all the junk mortgages so the lenders wouldn't have to write them down and go into insolvency years ago. Fannie and Freddie centralized much of the risk all these years, putting it all on the taxpayers.
I still question the precise timing of the news that the Feds were taking over Fannie and Freddie. The problems and the understanding that the government was going to have to step in were probably known to Paulson and others a year ago.
Was it just a coincidence that the announcement of the takeover was made one week after the nomination of Palin had turned south the prospects for the coronation of The One? There is no reason why McCain/Palin would not still be riding high in the polls except for this financial crisis.
Of course, McCain didn't help with his response. He could have tapped into this tsunami of anger at Washington from voters in both parties by simply making a token stand with conservatives against this bailout. Instead, he poked his finger in our eye AGAIN by rushing in to support this turkey of a plan, even when it was larded with billions for his opponent's former employer, former legal client, and receipient of millions already in earmarks from him, ACORN, who is a major part of the problem to begin with.
I can only assume he did it in order to appear "presidential" and "bipartisan". Obama in the meantime stood back and grinned as McCain shot himself in the foot over and over again. Then Obama supported the bailout only after he saw that the media and the congress would give him cover against the public's anger by supporting it too.
Happy now, John?
Bill O breaks through journalistic malpractice
October 3, 2008 - 13:29 ET by FrJLet me add my bravo to Bill O., too. I could not believe it when I saw it. Bill came off perhaps a bit overbearing and abrasive, but what could you expect when he is the only one willing to bust throught the charade that is American journalism?
Fox News has been putting up that clip from time to time over the past 10 days but never with any fanfare. Since I first saw the clip I thought it was the most damning thing I had seen on the subject and was wondering why it wasnt getting attention. So, finally Bill O. got up the nerve to say to old Barney's face that he was responsible for massive losses by investors.
Barney like so many politicians thinks nothing of just bald face lying about his record and smearing the other side with broad and irrelevant generalities. Finally, he got caught and embarassed in public.
If the dems win the White House, there will be a mountain of books on the corruption of the media. There ought to be a way for the public to sue the media for journalistic malpractice!!
Ripping apart Frank
October 3, 2008 - 14:07 ET by Tom in NCEventhough I don't always agree with O'Reilly, I was happy to see him jump into Frank with both feet and start stomping away. Barney Frank is a crook, plain and simple, he should be censured, expelled from the House and lead away in handcuffs. This so-called man has used his office to perpetrate crimes against every tax payer in this country and if the FBI can't prosecute, convict and get him sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison along with Franklin Raines, Christopher Dowd, Maxine Waters and others involved in this mess then Justice in this country is truly dead
Oh by the way Barney, I'm sure you would be the belle of the prison ball, you're dance card would always be filled
ENRON-FANNIE-FREDDIE
October 3, 2008 - 14:16 ET by JIMMY1660allow me to love America
BARNEY AND HIS COHORTS, WILL LOOK GOOD IN HANDCUFFS.
I SUPPOSE EVERY NOW AND THEN ITS TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE.
ITS TIME. IF WE ARE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH A $800 BILLION-BURDEN LETS GET SOME BLOOD IN THE WATER.
Barney Frank Goes off Half-Cocked
October 3, 2008 - 14:16 ET by eolonInevitably, I can't help but burst into laughter anytime I see or hear Barney.
He certainly was "flaming" in this interview!
It is a wonder he didn't go down in flames!
He was the butt of the joke!
When they say he sucks at his job, they really mean it!
His boyfriend worked at Fannie Mae, because he thought the company name was a job description!
He reminds me a lot of Elmer Fudd, except, you know, Elmer Fudd has a human head.
Barney once saw a pretty blonde walking down the street, and said: "sometimes I really wish I was a lesbian"!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Best Regards,
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Bayonne, Barney Frank , What a Disgrace
October 3, 2008 - 18:43 ET by Redrowan2000I'm not usually a fan of seeing someone get ripped a good one in public but when you have this sack of feces who is responsible for this sociallly engineered economic Frankenstein that he helped create along with the help of Hillary and Bill and Harry and Hussein and the thieves from Goldman Sachs and Merril then you know what? Too bad. He should be investigated for malfeasance and misfeasance of his office. This human garbage should be put away with all the others that perpetrated this upon the American public and now the global economy. Bill, bring him back for another rippin, but have tar and feathers readied for him this time.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
American Tax-Payers
October 3, 2008 - 20:54 ET by TN MomWe The People must stand up and demand that Frank, Dodd, and all involved be held to account. If our collective voices are loud enough the msm will have no choice but to 'report' as FBI agents haul 'em all to prison!
JAIL IS TOO GOOD...
October 3, 2008 - 21:00 ET by danybhoyI have seen/read/heard some say they would like guys like Barney Fwank, Chris Dudd, Franklin Reigns, Jim Johnson, Jamie Gorelik & others who were on the take in exchange for campaign donations, sweet cut rate loan deals, & cushy jobs to enrich people as a favor for running cover for the corrupt system setup at Freddie & Fannie.
I like what the Chinese Gov't does in cases like this...
http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6699441.stm or
http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/872398.stm ...
You get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, you are a dead man, you are lucky to get life. Then again, in China, the death penalty is a better option.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS SORT OF PUNISHMENT HERE IN AMERICA, it would be a great way to clean up gov't at al levels & restore the people's trust in the gov't. I care not which party gets caught up in corruption, I want the corrupt @-holes OUT OF GOV'T.
"...it's still We The People, Right?" Megadeth
"Barney Frank" and "Fannie" appearing in the same headline.
October 5, 2008 - 03:19 ET by R D HelmSorry, but that just strikes me as funny. :-)
-Dave
If this nation is to be saved, it will be libertarian principles that save it.