An astonishing thing happened on CNN Sunday evening: Lou Dobbs told his guests, "My colleagues in the national media are absolutely biased, in the tank supporting the Obama candidacy while claiming the mantle of objectivity," and they agreed.
I kid you not. [audio clip available here]
Joining Dobbs in this extraordinary discussion about liberal bias at America's leading press outlets were syndicated columnist and CNN contributor Diana West, syndicated columnist Miguel Perez, and Democratic strategist Hank Sheinkopf.
Readers should prepare themselves for an alternate reality (partial transcript follows, h/t NB reader Chris John):
LOU DOBBS, HOST: You know, it's really not working because the fact is we have a tied race here. You know, with all the national media, as I've been saying here for months, in the tanks. My colleagues in the national media are absolutely biased, in the tank supporting the Obama candidacy while claiming the mantle of objectivity. Whether they're in the front page of "The Washington Post," "The New York Times," whether it's any one of the news casts, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Now we have a situation where everything is tied up here, Diana. Is it possible, however, for Senator McCain to actually gain a significant lead here?
DIANA WEST, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think it is possible. I mean, it's really, it's really hard to say exactly how these things are going, but this kind of superficial attack from the Obama campaign is not helping him at all. You have to remember that this particular attack came within 24 hours of another Obama ad that was trying to link McCain to Ralph Reed, to the convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
DOBBS: They have 527s. They've got 527s all over the town -
WEST: Exactly, and the McCain campaign came back with another huge response talking about if you want to play guilt by association, let's talk some more about former weatherman -
DOBBS: What happened to the post partisan lofty elevated discourse we're going to have, Miguel?
MIGUEL PEREZ, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: I'm still waiting for it, unfortunately.
WEST: But who wants it?
PEREZ: Look, what the media has failed at here is putting pressure on Obama, especially, because McCain wanted to do those meetings together with Obama, those public forums.
DOBBS: The town hall meetings.
PEREZ: Yes, and Obama has really evaded the issue and the media has not been after him for it. And I think that's disgraceful.
DOBBS: Well, I think the way the national media in this country right is performing, is disgraceful. And I mean, when we - "The Washington Post" had the courage to admit that it - Deborah Howell, the public editor, the ombudsman for the "Washington Post" ran a piece this past Sunday acknowledging that "The Washington Post" has put Barack Obama on the front pages of the Washington Post three times as many times as Senator McCain. "Time" magazine has run seven covers with Obama. McCain two. I mean, this is not close, folks. And it is ugly. It is nasty. And I guarantee you, we are watching a shift in the way in which the media in this country, which is already reviled by the public, I believe it's going to be even worse.
I'm an advocacy journalist. I'm an independent populist. When I speak, people know where I'm coming from. When these news organizations are doing this and trying to pretend cloaking themselves in the mantle of objectivity, you know, they're silly, (trulish), absolutely in my opinion, despicable phonies. They need to step out, they need to be objective or get their opinions out where it can be examined. We're going to be right back. Next, Hank Sheinkopf. He'll tell us about what he thinks of media bias. We'll be right back.
DOBBS: Well, we're back and I want to take a look at the "Time" magazine cover. Seven times, seven times in the past year, Barack Obama has been placed on the cover of "Time" magazine. Now, John McCain twice. Hank Sheinkopf, that is rather typical of the inundation of affection, the inundation of Barack Obama with the affection of the national media. What is your reaction as a democratic strategist?
HANK SHEINKOPF, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good for democrats, not so good for the nation in the long term. Barack Obama is interesting, he's new, therefore he is news. OK. The fact that a black man can reach that pinnacle of success, raise the amount of money, run this kind of organization, beat Hillary Clinton is big news. At some point there has to be some fairness in the discussion. The problem here from the beginning is from day Obama showed up, I was wondering when the reporters will start chiseling his face on to Mt. Rushmore and the guy hadn't even won the nomination yet. That's the danger here, Lou. And people know it and they're not stupid. Average guy says wait a second, I want news and he isn't getting it.
DOBBS: He's not getting it. He's not getting it for a lot of reasons, and she's not getting it. We're not getting it, because budgets have been cut by corporate, main stream media. We have fewer people making any point of fact, in many cases, making less money to do even bigger job in a more complex society. Miguel, your reaction?
PEREZ: Oh, look, in reaction to what both of you are saying, and what Hank just said about what's new. I went to journalism school. I teach journalism. You have to put aside what's new in terms of, when it comes to fairness. And when you're covering an election, you definitely have to be fair to both sides. And what's new is not a valid argument for the media. So you know, as a member of the media, I can tell you it's wrong to be doing that, you know, absolutely wrong.
DOBBS: I mean, I've said for some time, Diana West, that I believe, because I issue from time to time, like you, a few strong opinions. But as I say, everyone knows where I come from and I'm making no bones about what I'm doing. I'm an advocacy journalist. But I truly believe, Diana West, that every - I like you all to think about this, maybe every reporter on television, every editor, every reporter in the newspapers and magazines and on the web, there ought to be a little identification like we put on the lower third of the screen for an elected official, D or republican from Iowa or Des Moines or whatever, put that under there, we're journalist, declare yourself.
PEREZ: That's why newspapers have an opinion page.
DOBBS: Right.
PEREZ: It should be, opinions should be left to that page, not to the front page.
DOBBS: Right. Well, you and I know that. The editors of "The New York Times," "The Washington Post" and "The Los Angeles Times," it's a crying shame. "The Washington Times" as well, Diana West.
WEST: Well, you know, "The Washington Times" is - certainly has been covering news from a more conservative angle. But in terms of the -
DOBBS: I think that's a gentle way to put it. That's like saying "The New York Times" has a more liberal angle.
WEST: Well, yes. I mean -
DOBBS: Come on, you're -
WEST: If you actually - No, no, no. I don't actually work for "The Washington Times" anymore.
DOBBS: I know that. But you should have an independent view.
WEST: I do. I have a very independent view.
DOBBS: Go get them.
WEST: I would say if you had a tally of that news room, you would find that it probably represents a conservative democratic split that's much closer to the national average than any other of the other news rooms you're talking about. That said, what we're seeing with the Obama - I think it will eventually ricochet on Obama. I think that people are getting very distressed and irritated about it. But the bias continues and, you know, it even came out with the coverage of these back and forth on gas this week in terms of the Ayers connection, because most of the papers was reading, "USA Today," "The Associated Press," they were not covering the challenge that the -
DOBBS: We got to wrap this up very quickly.
Absolutely amazing. Bravo, folks.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.





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Good for Dobbs. Although he
August 25, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Captain RepusGood for Dobbs. Although he often drives me up a wall with his rants against anything 'Bush administration', his points are generally with some merit.
I am actually quite surprised he is still on the air at CNN with his not adhering to the network policy of never speaking ill of any democrat or positively of any republican.
Maybe he should sit down for a little counseling session with 'kill the messenger Cafferty' or 'Captain drone Blitzer' to get his synapses re-aligned.
Dobbs
August 25, 2008 - 10:26 ET by Cool ArrowI think Dobbs had his epiphany during the Enron bait and switch scandal.
He has jumped out there with a lot of protectionism, but he's hell on wheels on the Border.
I ♣ my seal
That is why...
August 25, 2008 - 10:40 ET by HeavyChevyI've always come to respect Dobbs, he is practically a pit bull when it comes to the border! I wish he was leading border defense, that would definitely send a tingle up my pant leg. (yeah I know but the opportunity was there :-)
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Understood Chevy
August 25, 2008 - 10:44 ET by Cool ArrowBorder defense czar would work for me.
And I can think of a few Border Agents who would get out of jail and back to work with a promotion, an apology, and commendations.
I ♣ my seal
I know exactly the two...
August 25, 2008 - 12:39 ET by HeavyChevyyou are talking about, and its about time they are released so they can make room for the Jackel who really belongs in there!
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Ramos And Campean
August 25, 2008 - 12:48 ET by Cool ArrowIt's truly a shame. And we can throw Prosecutor Johnny Sutton in there with the drug dealer.
I ♣ my seal
<<<<< Maybe he should sit
August 25, 2008 - 10:39 ET by iconoclast<<<<< Maybe he should sit down for a little counseling session with 'kill the
messenger Cafferty' or 'Captain drone Blitzer' to get his synapses
re-aligned. >>>>>
LMAO! Perfect!
"we should immediately give every working family in America a
$1,000 energy rebate, and we should pay for it with part of the record
profits that the oil companies are making" Barak Obama, Communist
Dobbs and 1984
August 25, 2008 - 11:59 ET by Bill W.Gee, it's fun to watch, this self-cannabilization (is that a word?).
I have a degree in journalism circa 1970 and have watched this decline in standards all along. The very first thing we were taught was to keep our personal views out of a story. Who, what, where, when, etc. Apparently, that is not the case anymore.
The Sacramento Bee puts opinion on their front page. I spent a week as a citizen observer --- a program their ombudsman promotes --- and I can safely say: They don't know that they don't know.
I watched this last night,
August 25, 2008 - 10:26 ET by BruzillaI watched this last night, and thought that Dobbs was off... as usual. Guys like Dobbs forgets that at this time last year, Obama was nothing more than a petty annoyance, the new "Tokein Negro" of an election where Hillary Clinton had been pre-ordained by the same media as being the winner as far back as 2004. So the Tokein takes on and defeats the Queen... that is news! That was never supposed to happen, so of course Obama is going to get the star treatment.
As for budgets getting cut, I see more and more news reporters and pundits getting their news from the Drudge Report, so who needs a big budget for research anymore?
Code Blue Two!
August 25, 2008 - 10:38 ET by Dr_LibertyOkay, this is the second day in a row that the media has darn near given me a heart attack with a shocker like this.
I am starting to suspect that they are trying to eliminate right-wing voters by giving us cardiac arrests.
Its a vast left-ventricle conspiracy!
<insert witty signature here>
I wonder if we can somehow
August 25, 2008 - 10:43 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarI wonder if we can somehow trick Nancy Peloser to send a question down to one of her friends in Hell to see if icicles are forming.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Good job Mr. Dobbs
August 25, 2008 - 10:59 ET by JWFDespite the media's love affair with Obama, he still can't crack 50% in what are arguably biased polls.
He is gonna lose bad in November. The country needs that.
Dobbs
August 25, 2008 - 11:07 ET by buddycI don't share many of Dobbs' views however his comment that "When these news organizations are doing this and trying to pretend cloaking themselves in the mantle of objectivity, you know, they're silly, (trulish), absolutely in my opinion, despicable phonies."
Journalism schools should hang their heads in shame. Advocate a position like Dobbs does is one thing. He does it openly and does not hide his prejudices.
People like Williams/Shieffer, Lauer, Smith, Blitzer, Rather, Brokaw, Russert, Couric, etc are "despicable phonies".
Dobbs
August 25, 2008 - 11:07 ET by buddycI don't share many of Dobbs' views however his comment that "When these news organizations are doing this and trying to pretend cloaking themselves in the mantle of objectivity, you know, they're silly, (trulish), absolutely in my opinion, despicable phonies."
Journalism schools should hang their heads in shame. Advocate a position like Dobbs does is one thing. He does it openly and does not hide his prejudices.
People like Williams/Shieffer, Lauer, Smith, Blitzer, Rather, Brokaw, Russert, Couric, etc are "despicable phonies".
When these news
August 25, 2008 - 11:31 ET by SterlingWhen these news organizations are doing this and trying to pretend cloaking themselves in the mantle of objectivity, you know, they're silly, (TRULISH), absolutely in my opinion, despicable phonies.
I think Mr. Dobbs called these organizations CHURLISH. As in being uncouth.
So Will We See Change?????
August 25, 2008 - 11:32 ET by Secret ConservativeYou know, it's one thing for Dobbs, et al, to go on the tube and publicly admit to bias (mea culpa, mea culpa) and even admit they're "in the tank" for Obama. So what ELSE is new?
But will they STOP doing it? I doubt it... Guess we'll have to watch the "breathless" "Chill up my leg" coverage of the Dem's convention and compare it to the inevitable snarky coverage of the Republicans to see.
It will change when
August 25, 2008 - 13:56 ET by nwahsIt will change when you can find an article in The Washington Post criticizing an obvious propaganda piece in The New York Times or when CBS runs a story blasting the irresponsible reporting of a story covered by NBC. As long as there is this professional courtesy of old media not calling out old media, there's nothing to hold them accountable.
Life imitates art
August 25, 2008 - 11:33 ET by KyrthThe more this obvious media bias argument gets wider play, the more I am convinced we're all in a life-imitates-art scene from the movie "O Brother Where Are Thou?" The scene takes place in the 1930s during a southern state political rally when a music group (The Soggy Bottom Boys) gets on stage and the crowd goes wild. The gubernatorial challenger tries to point out to his supposed constituency that the group is not all white. The incumbent notices that the 'Boys are the crowd favorite and decides to take advantage of the moment. His son cautions him that group is integrated. His reply is: "Well, I guess people don't mind that they's integrated."
We keep pointing out obvious MSM bias as if it were the ultimate deal breaker, but I believe that most people don't care that the media is biased. We can continue to insist that it is the thing that will finally get our guy elected (or, strangely, that it will prevent the other guy from getting elected), or we can accept and take advantage of the idea that the people already know and do not care that the media is biased. The internet and non-MSM sources are providing the ability for people to get the news any way they want it, when they want it, and from any 'bias' angle they choose. All of the MSM outlets are suffering plunges because of news accessibility and customization, not because of any particular bias.
In the movie, the guy who kept insisting that the status quo be maintained got rode out on a rail. We conservatives can keep attacking the media, but nobody in the media is running for any office. Republicans need to attack Democrats who are on ballots instead of Keith, Chris and Dan who are not. There are plenty of media sources, including this one, that will get those stories out regardless of who the MSM is cheering for.
Kyrth
August 25, 2008 - 11:53 ET by iveseenitallYou write," ...most people don't care that the media is biased". So true. And therein lies the problem. We live in a "so what", "whatever", "who cares" generation which parallels so many others in history. We may be on our way out much sooner than we think. Thank you founding fathers; it was a great idea that had so much potential. But it needed constant vigilance and self-reliance to succeed. Unfortunately, we've lost our way by losing our will. The moral compass is broken. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Liberalism...
August 25, 2008 - 11:58 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. has been the most effective tool to that effect.
<<<<<< All of the MSM
August 25, 2008 - 12:27 ET by iconoclast<<<<<< All of the MSM outlets are suffering plunges because of news
accessibility and customization, not because of any particular bias.
>>>>
This is the justification the MSM uses when they discuss bias. I don't believe it is a viable argument. For me, and many I talk with in person and on forums like this, the reason the MSM is losing viewers is because they are biased. As we know, they are progressives and that attitude is what makes up their agenda.
Any successful salesman will tell that many sales are lost because he/she forced a product onto the buyer and/or made them wrong. The progressives in the MSM are forcing their ideas onto the public and telling them they lack intelligence if they don't agree with them. These tactics may work for awhile, but overall, they are a sure fire formula for failure, and that is what is happening. It may be that they are just beginning to see that. IMHO that is.
"we should immediately give every working family in America a
$1,000 energy rebate, and we should pay for it with part of the record
profits that the oil companies are making" Barak Obama, Communist
One problem with the
August 25, 2008 - 12:20 ET by Chris NormanOne problem with the grotesquely blatant bias - it's a lot harder for anyone in the MSM to dismiss or deny - like they could when it was more subtle and better masked.
McNotObama '08
Democracy revisited
August 25, 2008 - 12:26 ET by cvgbuckeye"Once a nation's public information system has morphed into a propaganda wing of one of the established political parties, any semblances of democracy are placed upon life support"
P W Vance, Ohio State University
I should have written "One
August 25, 2008 - 12:45 ET by Chris NormanI should have written "One small saving grace about grotesquely blatant bias..." instead of "One problem...".
I don't usually go around quoting Sean Hannity, but I think he did say it best: : "2008 will go down as the year that journalism died" - or something like that.
McNotObama '08
West is right....this is
August 25, 2008 - 13:05 ET by bigtimerWest is right....this is going to eventually ricochet on Obama.... The msm will not be able to stop their bias and their constant cram it down our throats lovefest of the O Man...
Backfire indeed.
Good for Dobbs and others on the show for admitting the bias...I have seen Dobbs do this quite a few times now over the last few months...three cheers for him in this regard.
Wonder what the big-wigs behind the scenes think when he does this...I have always wondered how much grumbling goes on that we can't hear...lol.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I wonder...
August 25, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. what would happen during an Obama presidency?
Would Schieffer be on CBS declaring that there are no Iranian tanks rolling into Baghdad in spite of facts to the contrary?
LesserOf2evils '08
déjà vu?
August 25, 2008 - 20:56 ET by needleBy any chance is your remark here based upon how the Media handled what happened in Cambodia at the hands of the Khmer Rouge and in Laos at the hands of the Pathet Lao and its successor?
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Deja Who?
August 25, 2008 - 21:34 ET by Sergeant ROCKActually, my reference was to Schieffer's fellow propagandist, Tariq Aziz.
However, your reference is even better.
LesserOf2evils '08
Something is wrong with the post
August 25, 2008 - 13:28 ET by acumenAll I get is a bunch of talking heads pointing at some enormous elephant in the studio.
A Tied Race...?
August 25, 2008 - 15:30 ET by cest moiIn Leftspeak, a "tied race" means McCain's ahead, period. I'm not interested in anything anyone on CNN is putting out. Have a fun convention, Democrats - 'cause after y'all trash Denver, the (your) party's over.
Most people
August 25, 2008 - 15:38 ET by sherlock1"Most people don't care that the media is biased..."
No, most people don't believe that the media CAN be biased. I have relatives and friends who are university-educated professionals, and who believe that if it isn't in the NYT or on the alphabet network news, it isn't true, and conversely if it is, you can take it to the bank. If you start talking about media bias (much less what it really is - censorship), they will look at you like you claim to be a UFO abductee.
I share a vanpool with a group of people who knew nothing about the Edwards scandal until weeks after I did, and when they finally heard a vague allusion to it on the radio, their first reaction was that it was a dirty trick from the "right-wing". Since it has dropped out of "their news" I am sure they are now confirmed in that belief. They probably are expecting to see a big Edwards speech this week at the DNC!
And by the way - I want to reinforce something - this is NOT just bias - it is censorship! Most of the bias is not deleivered in the form of lies - it is delivered by selectively omitting facts and perspectives! Small example - NPR reporting on the "8 houses" - they reported McCain's rebuttal about Obama's 1.6 million dollar house, BUT they left out the reference to Tony Rezko helping to pay for it, which was the core of the rebuttal. Hundreds of little tweaks like that per day, and you have a very effective stealth propaganda machine for one political party.
sherlock... You are so
August 25, 2008 - 15:49 ET by bigtimersherlock...
You are so right...it is censorship by omission indeed.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I was channel surfing
August 25, 2008 - 15:51 ET by marpelI was channel surfing yesterday and came across Lou Dobbs' ranting his opinion about this. I was never a big fan of his, but I did gain a healthier respect for him yesterday. Good for you, Lou! Unfortunately, it won't change a thing, especially MSNBC's adoration of Obama.
Kudos to Lou Dobbs
August 26, 2008 - 04:41 ET by Rush FanI stopped watching Lou Dobbs because of his rants against President Bush and the Bush administration. I never heard him say a kind word about anything Bush.
However his honesty and frustration with his fellow media colleagues deserves a pat on the back. I sent him an email thanking him for his comments. There is a email link on the upper right side of his website above his signature.
Lou Dobbs states that he is an independent, but I believe he is also a supporter of the Republican Party. Two of the issues that are important to him are securing our borders and freeing Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. The Democrats want open borders and the Republicans want to secure them (with the exception of the RINO Republicans), and it has been primarily Republicans that are calling on President Bush to commute the agents' sentences.
I'm a softy when it comes to honesty. I'm going to begin watching Lou Dobbs show again. With President Bush leaving office shortly, I guess I can tolerate Dobbs' rants against Bush for a little bit longer.
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