It goes without saying that most NewsBusters readers are not likely familiar with the rapper known as Ludacris.
However, it seems likely his new "song" and video "Obama is Here" will be getting a lot of attention not only given its strong support for the presumptive Democrat presidential nominee, but also due to some of its defamatory remarks towards President Bush, John McCain, and Hillary Clinton.
UPDATE at end of post: Obama campaign responds!
The video is embedded right with offensive lyrics below the fold. Readers are strongly cautioned before starting video or proceeding any further:
I'm back on it like I just signed my record deal
Yeah the best is here, the Bentley Coup paint is dripping wet, it got sex appeal
Never should have hated, you never should've doubted him
With a slot in the President's iPod Obama shattered 'em
Said I handled his biz and I'm one of his favorite rappers
Well give Luda a special pardon if I'm ever in the slammer
Better yet put him in office, make me your vice president
Hillary hated on you, so that b^$&%* is irrelevant
Jesse talking slick and apologizing for what?
If you said it then you meant it how you want it have a gut!
And all you other politicians trying to hate on my man,
Watch us win a majority vote in every state on my man
You can't stop what's bout to happen, we bout to make history
The first black president is destined and it's meant to be
The threats ain't fazing us, the nooses or the jokes
So get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote!
Paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified
McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed
Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped
Ball up all of his speeches and I throw em like candy wrap
Cause what you talking I hear nothing even relevant
and you the worst of all 43 presidents
Get out and vote or the end will be near
The world is ready for change because Obama is here!
The world is ready for change because Obama is here!
How soon will Ludacris be invited on all the morning broadcast network talk shows to discuss this piece as well as his support for Obama?
*****Update: Ben Smith at Politico reports...
Barack Obama's campaign is condemning a song by the rapper Ludacris that praises Obama and bitterly attacks Senators Hillary Clinton and John McCain.
"As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn’t want his daughters or any children exposed to," said spokesman Bill Burton. "This song is not only outrageously offensive to Senator Clinton, Reverend Jackson, Senator McCain, and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear. While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics."
Interesting tightrope, wouldn't you agree? After all, Ludacris is a VERY popular rapper, and not just in the young black community. Young white folk like his work as well.
Can Obama say Ludacris "should be ashamed of these lyrics" and not offend young voters that LOVE them?
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Rush played it on his
July 30, 2008 - 11:57 ET by mattmRush played it on his show. What a bunch of racist idiocy. And they say bush is mentally handicapped???
That IS "Ludacris"...
Ludacris is one..
July 30, 2008 - 11:58 ET by BEGRUNTsick ba$t*rd. Is this the sort that Obamatron appeals to?? I hope they keep it up, it will only turn more people off.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
frankly i just can't
July 30, 2008 - 13:06 ET by TruthMongerfrankly i just can't understand these liberals whenever they talk
and they all look alike
huh?
July 30, 2008 - 11:59 ET by candanceThose lyrics sound like they were written by a ten year old.
I've heard some good rap with some deep lyrics, but this isn't it.
candance.....in reality....
July 30, 2008 - 12:05 ET by BEGRUNThe has the mental capacity of a 10 year old. What a low life. The sooner this hip hop garbage goes in the trash heap, the better.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
A Product of a Liberal Education
July 30, 2008 - 15:37 ET by liberal_bug_zapperOur country is suffering fools by allowing the Teacher's Unions to grab control of teaching in this country. The agenda is set, and working... there is a huge populace getting dumber, not smarter... and the black community is getting the shaft (pardon the pun). There is a reason why the jails are full of blacks by a huge majority... it's because of the liberal school system that teaches them that they are perpetual victims, and need special help to get equal chances like the evil whites who are keeping them down.
Have I mentioned how much I hate Liberals and their sneaky agenda.... but it's working. Now more than ever, people are stupid, and get offended when you call them stupid... but they are... and there is nothing you can do about it because we have lost control over the universities and the high schools and grade schools where geography class is used to re-write history.
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"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman
Obama's new rap reposted here.
July 30, 2008 - 12:06 ET by CTObama's rap-man Ludacris has a new campaign rap for Obama that says a lot about all involved: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1
One more racist supporter for Obama to throw under his bus.
NOBAMUNISTS PLEASE!
Luda!
July 30, 2008 - 12:18 ET by aeroveloI love Ludacris...but this is just ludachrist...it can only do Obama damage as hes now trying to center up and win white votes.
Maybe Obama needs to have Michael Moore do a "documentary" on him to help seal his fate.
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Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!
"So get off your ass, black
July 30, 2008 - 12:22 ET by Killgrave"So get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote!"
So there it is. This is all about skin color.
What does Obama have in common with a typical black person in this country, except for his pigmentation?
His father wasn't "African-American". He was a real African.
His mother is white (so, technically, Obama is every bit as white as he is black, if not more so).
He was raised in a white household.
He is a product of upper education (which is predominently leftist white elitist).
He not only knows what arugula is, he makes a point of talking about it. And, from what I understand, Obama is fond of water polo. This shows that the man has refined tastes that are much more aligned to snobby whites, not blacks.
So this is all about skin color. What else is there?
"GET OFF YOUR ASS, WHITE
July 30, 2008 - 13:08 ET by TruthMonger"GET OFF YOUR ASS, WHITE PEOPLE - IT'S TIME TO GET OUT THE VOTE!"
i like it
hope the MSM doesn't mind:)!
Well...
July 30, 2008 - 19:33 ET by HeavyChevyThis black man is getting off his ass to vote and guess what, it won't be for Obama.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Oh isn't this
July 30, 2008 - 12:22 ET by bigtimerOh isn't this special...
I'm sure The View will have him booked soon...
Paint the White House black...threats, nooses and jokes...
WTF is this dumb POS talkin' about?
This would be infuriating to me if it weren't so pitifully stupid.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
That's just it, BT,
July 30, 2008 - 12:43 ET by fonzie2178fools like this have no idea how ridiculous they sound. If you let them make you mad, they've won. Don't give em the satisfaction! :-)
"Green, the new Red."
Example??
July 30, 2008 - 12:23 ET by ArtisteAnd this guy is such a great example of what the White House will be reduced to. What filth. If I were Obama I would be backpeddling away from this excuse for a musician and philosophy as quickly as possible. Another vote for McCain!!!!
Thank you Ludacris
July 30, 2008 - 12:41 ET by ksimm81'Said I handled his biz and I'm one of his favorite rappers'
I am a black woman and that is one of the MANY reasons that I am not voting for Obama.
If Ludacris, whose rantings are disguised as music and his misogeny is legendery, is Obama's fave rapper than I question Obama's integrity and character.
But I guess all questions were answered when his association with Jeremiah 'I hate whitey' Wright was disclosed.
ROFLMAO!
July 30, 2008 - 12:41 ET by fonzie2178So this is the kind of mental midget it takes to support Obama... No surprise here!
"Green, the new Red."
Would McCain be in a
July 30, 2008 - 12:45 ET by benrandWould McCain be in a wheelchair if he was shot?
Is that what this pos is suggesting?
The Keith Olbermann of rap
July 30, 2008 - 12:50 ET by greenfairieLudacris is just the Keith Olbermann of rap. Hates the same people, says the same stupid things, has a beef with Bill O'Reilly.
Hey gf.... The Keith
July 30, 2008 - 12:54 ET by bigtimerHey gf....
The Keith Olbermann of rap...
...LOL funny....
Boy you got that pegged perfectly!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hey BT, that would make
July 30, 2008 - 17:34 ET by RukusHey BT, that would make Olbermaniac "LudaChrissy!" LOL!
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
Ruk... LOL...That's a good
July 30, 2008 - 17:42 ET by bigtimerRuk... LOL...That's a good one too...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Oops! I meant Matthews, east
July 31, 2008 - 12:26 ET by RukusOops! I meant Matthews, east to get the two intertwined though. :)
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
gf, I like the
July 30, 2008 - 13:07 ET by MassConservgf, I like the comparison.
If I remember correctly, this is the same dolt that rapped about Bush being reponsible for 9/11. I don't remember the exact wording, but I think it was something like, "Why did Bush bring down the towers" Does anyone else recall this?
MassConserv
July 30, 2008 - 13:23 ET by ksimm81The person who rapped that was actually Jadakiss from the LOX.
But then again, does it matter?
They both are idiots.
Thanks for the correction,
July 30, 2008 - 13:31 ET by MassConservThanks for the correction, ksimm.
Jadakiss... Ludacris... You can understand my confusion.
About the only rap I can stand is Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" or Toby Keith's "I Wanna Talk About Me."
About the only rap I can
July 30, 2008 - 15:32 ET by Dan The Man 2About the only rap I can stand is Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" O ne of my favs, I love Weird Al. Of course I have seen the other video also and it is pretty good.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Coolio
July 30, 2008 - 16:16 ET by mbuelI remember when Coolio threw a fit that Wierd Al made Amish Paradise.
Great song. ;)
John Gibson is constantly bringing to light how ludicrous these rap songs are and how bad the majority of modern hip hop is for our culture as a whole. He's completely right. The fact that people listen to this and believe it is _extremely dangerous_.
Another reason for EVERY
July 30, 2008 - 12:56 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasAnother reason for EVERY SINGLE GOP, CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT and LIBERTARIAN in America to vote for McCain.
"Ludiculous" said, " So get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote! Paint the White House black ".
Are you waiting for the Axis Media to tell you that you should be outraged? They won't. Have you really become so mired in your ignorance and brainwashed by cultural PCism and the acceptance of double standards and hypocrisy as to not understand the message of hate, racism and the attempted furtherance by "Ludiculous" and The Obamanation, of continued bitterness toward long past historical offenses that is obviously still the modus operandi of black Democrats even to this moment? Did you not hear The Obamantion lament, again, the long past offenses, dragging history and not the future into his rhetoric and the vision of change he promises? Did you not hear The Obamanation's sentiments expressed toward REPARATIONS?
He is getting brave and taking the risk of letting you see the real him. Why? He is arrogant and his arrogance will make him show you his hand before the game is over. And it is obvious that black Democrats, whether political or social in noteriety, are just as arrogant. "Ludiculous" wouldn't have made such a video if he didn't feel safe in doing so. He knows he will be shielded by the Axis Media and from minimal condemnation by The Obamanation. He knows too, that most blacks supporting The Obamanation feel this way. Is this what you want? Is this what you want to unleash? Really?
Are you listening? Does someone have to smack you upside the head and spell it out any clearer than this?
Play time is up. Every single one of you that reject The Obamanation for one reason or another NOW must put aside YOUR differences and start to examine just what kind of person The Obamanation is and those that support him are. Their threat to this nation's civility, prosperity and safety cannot be allowed to go any further than now. Those of you who are Libertarians, Republicans and Conservative Democrats, whether white, black, or brown, must unite against this true threat to our nation.
If you want this kind of man with these kinds of followers into the highest office of the nation, then keep fighting among yourself. We now face a threat bigger than our disagreements regarding McCain as the nomination and who will be his VP. It's your choice.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Well said GAT.....
July 30, 2008 - 16:36 ET by BEGRUNTand right to the point!! This ego maniac is, as you said, "showing his hand", time to wake up people. He is already assembling a transition team for gods sake. He hasn't even got his party's nomination yet!!!! He is so full of himself, that he is believing his own BS. With quotes like, "I'm the one the world has been waiting for".....WHAT ARROGANCE!!!!! This man MUST be stopped!!!!
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
not "for" but "against"
July 30, 2008 - 18:17 ET by NayExactly, while I cannot bring myself to vote "for McCain", I must vote "against Obama"!
he'll say he hasn't heard
July 30, 2008 - 12:53 ET by athoughtor2he'll say he hasn't heard it....will not come out strongly against it....maybe a sister souljah in the making?
Not much different
July 30, 2008 - 12:58 ET by 10ksnookerFrom what Rev Wright said in his sermons ... rascism and payback. I doubt a revenge campaign will prove to be a winner.
Ludacris
July 30, 2008 - 13:07 ET by nandrelliOK, let's have a poll. Which MSM reporter will be the first to demand that Obama disassociate himself from Ludacris?
1. Brian Williams
2. Katie Couric
3. Charles Gibson
4. Chris Matthews
5. Keith Olbermann
6. David Shuster
7. Lawrence O'Donnell
8. Soledad O'Brien
9. Christiane Amanpour
Noel is right about one thing: if it hadn't been for Bill O'Reilly's campaign against him, I would never have heard of Ludacris. But then again, I am a white 58-year old male, so I obviously don't move in the social circles where Ludacris is "appreciated".
nandrelli, the answer to yours question is
July 30, 2008 - 14:14 ET by larry on LInonne of the above
There you have it - The 1st Amendment at its worst
July 30, 2008 - 13:13 ET by YahooWatcherCalling a US Senator a bitch, wishing paralyzation on another Senator, and slandering the President of the United States.
Is it possible that this is being set up....
July 30, 2008 - 13:18 ET by Missouri Conservative....as Barack's Sister Soulja moment?
"women and minorities hardest hit"
it could be a double triple
July 30, 2008 - 13:22 ET by TruthMongerit could be a double triple setup with Rove involved
the "proof" will be if it hurts obama
Don't do any favors
July 30, 2008 - 13:33 ET by KC MulvilleIn Philadelphia, when John Street took over as mayor, he was widely quoted as saying that this was "our time" now. Given Philadelphia's somewhat checkered history with proper city governance, it was interpreted to mean that Street intended to pillage the city's resources on behalf of blacks. Rightly or wrongly, that was the perception. Naturally, there was a response. Just last week, it was reported that during Street's tenure, Philly became the most-fled city in America. Businesses and people got out of town as fast as they could. Philly used to be the fourth-largest city in America. Now it's slipping behind Phoenix.
Then I read the lyric: "Paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified." Take that attitude, and I'm sure he's right.
I actually feel bad for the Obama campaign. Seriously. They're probably cursing the name "Ludacris" right now. They've done everything they can to dispel the stereotype of a black White House, and then this "supporter" comes along. Say what you want about Obama (and I say a lot), but give him credit: he hasn't campaigned on being black. So I can hear the phone calls from the Obama campaign to every rap label in the country: "Please, don't do us any favors!!!!"
In Philadelphia, when John
July 30, 2008 - 14:03 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsIn Philadelphia, when John Street took over as mayor, he was widely quoted as saying that this was "our time" now.
Actually, he said 'the brothers and sisters are in charge'.
D
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Street
July 30, 2008 - 14:33 ET by KC MulvilleOh, jeez - that's right. Even worse.
"As Barack Obama has said
July 30, 2008 - 13:57 ET by benrand"As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past"
Sure he has, and Brian Williams reads three books a day.
I was thinking the same
July 30, 2008 - 18:33 ET by ReaverI was thinking the same thing when I read that. When has Obama ever spoke out about rap lyrics?
The threat is The Obamanation and those who support him.
July 30, 2008 - 14:00 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasHe is getting brave and taking the risk of letting you see the real
him. Why? He is arrogant and his arrogance will make him show you his
hand before the game is over. And it is obvious that black Democrats,
whether political or social in noteriety, are just as arrogant. "Ludiculous" wouldn't have made such a video if he didn't feel safe in doing so. He knows he will be shielded by the Axis Media and from minimal condemnation by The Obamanation. He knows too, that most blacks supporting The Obamanation feel this way. Is this what you want? Is this what you want to unleash? Really?
Play time is up. Every single one of you that reject The Obamanation for one reason or another NOW must put aside YOUR differences and start to examine just what kind of person The Obamanation
is and those that support him are. Their threat to this nation's
civility, prosperity and safety cannot be allowed to go any further
than now. Those of you who are Libertarians, Republicans and
Conservative Democrats, whether white, black, or brown, must unite
against this true threat to our nation.
If you want this kind of man with these kinds of followers into the
highest office of the nation, then keep fighting among yourself. We now
face a threat bigger than our disagreements regarding McCain as the
nomination and who will be his VP. It's your choice.
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From my earlier post. The Obamanation's response is faint and misses the mark completely. Look at the core of The Obamanation's comment:
"While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics."
WRONG, he should be ashamed of HIMSELF, his complete lack of CHARACTER and personally express regret and rejection for this. What The Obamanation does is a TACTIC.
He doesn't condemn Ludiculous, he condemns THE LYRICS. GET IT? Do you need another smack upside the head? While condemning the lyrics, Obama take time to praise Ludiculous' TALENT. Unfreakingbelievable!
So in a context that warrants CONDEMNATION and cannot afford nor warrants any subscription to praise because the offense is so great, what does THE OBAMANATION DO? He praises Ludiculous and ONLY condemns...THE LYRICS!
WAKE UP! It's time to make a choice. The threat is not John McCain, or his VP choice, the threat is The Obamanation and those who support him.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Barack Has Nothing To Worry About!
July 30, 2008 - 14:04 ET by ChasvsSince the majority of Blacks will never vote for McCain, BHO has nothing to worry about by dissing Ludacris.
You know the Majority of Blacks will vote for BHO, it a "pride" don't thing you know? Nothing racist about that is there.
Ludacris.
July 30, 2008 - 14:17 ET by MrShyKeepin' it real.
Real dumb.
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Racism
July 30, 2008 - 14:32 ET by iveseenitallThe only person in the media to condemn this( if anyone does) will be O'Reilly. Can you imagine if the words were turned around and a white "artist" did this to all those poor colored people out there? The race hustlers, Michelle and Barry Obama/Jesse Jackson/ Al Sharpton, would be among the first to cry "racism".
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Yup.
July 30, 2008 - 14:36 ET by MrShyThere's certainly NOT one, single standard applied when it comes to race. Not even close.
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That's a classic
July 30, 2008 - 14:40 ET by sarcasmoChris Rock routine. I think he may be playing the media a bit here, O'Reilly hasn't ranted about Ludacris in quite a while, no?
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Some good
July 30, 2008 - 15:00 ET by iveseenitallOne of the few good things to come out of the Barry Obama campaign is that it is getting more white people angry again. The PC lies, distortions, and hatred for whites in the hearts of so many blacks in America, including Michelle and her hubby, are being highlighted. There have been too many years of frustratration building, due to the hypocrisy of it all. "Liberals" are sick people who have turned the tables on decency and truth, and many more people have simply had enough with "white guilt" being shoved at them in every aspect of their lives. Many blacks and the lefties have loved and exploited it for their own gain, but most honest people are sick and tired of it.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Very true, Ive.... (sorry,
July 30, 2008 - 15:24 ET by MrShyVery true, Ive.... (sorry, can't quite figure out how it's spelled... so many e's and l's :p)
Man, I hope he loses in November, and loses big. Also, the vote will be so polarizing race-wise, which is sad.
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Bad idea by Ludacris. But,
July 30, 2008 - 15:10 ET by balboaBad idea by Ludacris. But, I don't think he's saying he wants McCain paralyzed, or that McCain should be paralyzed, or that he's going to render McCain paralyzed. It's just an abrasive way of saying he doesn't want him sitting in the Oval Office.
Still not good.
"It's just an abrasive way
July 30, 2008 - 15:20 ET by MrShy"It's just an abrasive way of saying he doesn't want him sitting in the Oval Office."
Balboa just got back from a tour inside Ludacris' cranium.
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stalking bal with this one today:
July 30, 2008 - 15:32 ET by TruthMongerif you cannot say what you mean
you cannot mean what you say
Peter O'Toole, th Last Emperor
If you keep repeating your
July 30, 2008 - 15:34 ET by balboaIf you keep repeating your posts,
You're just posting repeats.
well............i thought I
July 30, 2008 - 15:38 ET by TruthMongerwell............i thought I was wrong once
but i was mistaken:)!
p.s i thought film stars were your guiding light, bud...?
so what gives
Just trying to twist that
July 30, 2008 - 15:43 ET by balboaJust trying to twist that little turn o' phrase back atcha.
It's been a while since I saw The Last Emperor, and I always get it confused with Empire of the Sun...
Both great movies.
yes they were
July 30, 2008 - 15:53 ET by TruthMongerand a fine twist it was:)!
you are a worthy opponent
most likely kill you in the morning
-dread pirate roberts, princess bride
yeah
July 30, 2008 - 15:44 ET by candanceI hate to take sides with Bal but I do think he's right on this one. It was a very bad joke but a joke nonetheless.
Balbozo, we can always
July 30, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasBalbozo, we can always count on a piece of work like you to defend waste like this. No he didn't DIRECTLY say he WANTED McCain paralyzed but he implied such imagery in a wishful context. But spineless trash like you always will exist to plead the cause of the most depraved.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
No, he didn't even imply in
July 30, 2008 - 16:01 ET by balboaNo, he didn't even imply in a wishful context, snookums.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have an Echinodermata lodge meeting to get to.
can you drop me at the free
July 30, 2008 - 16:05 ET by TruthMongercan you drop me at the free mason's, bud?
As long as you don't mind
July 30, 2008 - 16:13 ET by balboaAs long as you don't mind riding in the back seat with a few anemones, sure.
i LOVE
July 30, 2008 - 16:19 ET by TruthMongeri LOVE anenememonies...!
they taste like chicken
Reminds me of the rant the
July 31, 2008 - 01:07 ET by Dan The Man 2Reminds me of the rant the traitor made in the second Matrix movie about how do we know what chicken tastes like.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Keep telling yourself that.
July 30, 2008 - 16:07 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasKeep telling yourself that. There is nothing to defend. Trash like you will always find something to defend in the that which warrants no defense.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Very tough. Very...menacing
July 30, 2008 - 16:13 ET by balboaVery tough. Very...menacing post. I'm all a twitter.
I never defended him. Did you miss that part? The part where I said it was a bad move on his part? Take a gander:
"Bad idea by Ludacris."
I explained what I thought he meant by paralyzed, yes, but never defended him. Even ended my post with "Still not good."
....why you...i
July 30, 2008 - 16:17 ET by TruthMonger....why you...i oughtta....how would you like a knuckle sammich>:(...?!?!?!
truth & bal
July 30, 2008 - 16:43 ET by MrShyIs there something going on between you two that we should know about?
Or maybe we don't need to know, sort of like that rule in the military...
:p
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"Still not good". Wow! A
July 30, 2008 - 16:54 ET by Guy Arthur Thomas"Still not good". Wow! A person of conscience. You state the obvious. What bravery, what conviction, what a joke. Every post I've ever read by you on any matter of any controversy, Balbozo, is an exercise is the kind of lukewarm pi$$ that tries to wear the jerseys of both teams. And once again, you want to play petty critic of the minutia, the role of the mole who excels at examining grains of sand to dispute its color while the castle all around you crumbles. Fool.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Let me see if I've got this
July 30, 2008 - 18:46 ET by balboaLet me see if I've got this right: you call me out for not being against Ludacris' lyrics. And when I point out to you that I am and stated as such, you're not happy with the amount of conviction with which I stated such position?
You're a peach. If only I could be as brave as you, except of course when it comes to actually typing the word "piss."
Your concern, expressed
July 30, 2008 - 16:08 ET by JerYour concern, expressed earlier in the thread, for the nation's "civility" was touching. Thankfully, we can count on a piece of work like you to preserve it.
Jer
When one engages a
July 30, 2008 - 16:40 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasWhen one engages a poisonous snake, they aren't using civility, they are protecting it. It may sting a bit, but take your whippin' and learn.
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Jer & Guy
July 30, 2008 - 16:56 ET by MrShyGuy is being pretty tough here, and Bal didn't really need to be name-called as he was in his post above, BUT....
The older I get and the more I'm around the whole hip-hop culture, the more disdain I have for it all because it's so rooted in an utter lack of civility, manners, good art-creating, you name it. It's junk that's been propped up into consumable "art/music", somehow.
So, really, part of me sides with Guy's zero-tolerance of bad and ugly "music" or "form of expression" like this rapper's, including those that sort of defend it, which Bal IS doing.
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You mean, Shy, that when
July 30, 2008 - 17:04 ET by JerYou mean, Shy, that when you were younger you felt little or only moderate disdain for that type of "music". My disdain has been maxed out from day one, just as has my disdain for calling civil posters "spineless trash".
Jer
I know I know. I called him
July 30, 2008 - 17:12 ET by MrShyI know I know. I called him out on that. I'm just saying, I understand him being fed up with both the culture AND the way people accept it as just "the way music/life is now" sort of thing. When you reside that much in the grey area, then what's the point?
Bal IS the typical liberal, sort of, I'm sorry. He wants to be all things to all people. Heck, so do I, but then you lack any integrity, in a way. That's what I admire about Bush.... not to divert this discussion down that path. :p
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Mr. Shy
July 30, 2008 - 19:39 ET by balboaAll things to all people. I don't know about that. I don't relent on an issue just to be someone's friend or to get them to like me. I disagree without hating that person or deciding I can't coexist with them.
Let's see... bal is a
July 30, 2008 - 16:53 ET by JerLet's see...
bal is a poisonous snake that needs to be stung and whipped in order to protect civility.
By jove, I think I've got it. Thanks. Learned something new.
Jer
"Art" these days is Ludacris
July 30, 2008 - 16:51 ET by Parker1227It's a bird, it's a plane, it's illiterate, it's hateful, it's Ludacris.
It's art? Not.
Does rap music and current black culture prove the KKK's point?
July 30, 2008 - 21:41 ET by jefflebowskiI wrote on my blog a few weeks ago that the KKK couldn't ask for better propaganda than rap music and the current black culture. Is Coolio MLK's dream or nightmare? Here's a link to the blog:
http://angrywhitedude.com/?p=91
Jeff Lebowski
Liberal tolerance on
July 30, 2008 - 23:24 ET by wiwfLiberal tolerance on parade.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
WIARHSI
July 31, 2008 - 00:10 ET by Cool ArrowTime to play our game again.
Suppose:
You think maybe the MSM would connect Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" to Adolph Hitler in less than 5 minutes?
You betcha!!
Hope
July 31, 2008 - 02:07 ET by cocodrieWhat are we to hope for now? Instead of a chicken in every pot, I guess we'll get a sub-woofer in every car. And don't forget the 20's.
It does seem to illustrate
July 31, 2008 - 06:09 ET by SchnikeysIt does seem to illustrate the shallow reasons that people will vote for someone. Better yet, it seems to illustrate that kind of mindset.
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