For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Obama tells Dems Israel is about to attack Iran?
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, met with House Democrats yesterday, talking about his trip abroad and his observations. Obama told the caucus, according to an attendee, "Nobody said this to me directly but I get the feeling from my talks that if the sanctions don’t work Israel is going to strike Iran."
Is this an appropriate thing for Obama to tell House Democrats? Thoughts?
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I don't feel it is wrong
July 30, 2008 - 09:53 ET by shawn228If that is the feeling that he got, there is nothing wrong with him telling fellow Democrats his opinion. If he does win the general election he needs to strategize on how to handle the situation if the attack does happen.
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Motive?
July 30, 2008 - 10:30 ET by ChuckM from PAExcept motive? Look at me! I went to Israel and now I have the answers! I know what is going on! I have this great intution, which makes it important for you to hear what I have to say.
The point your missing is
July 30, 2008 - 10:34 ET by bradbenj5952The point you're missing is that Obama making this statement is like him going into a session of Congressional Dems to let them know the sky is blue. Israel is perhaps the only country left in the world that has the chutzpa to apply real solutions to real problems. They will be doing the rest of us a favor. How should we respond? Help them in any way we can.
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By pointing out the obvious,
July 30, 2008 - 12:13 ET by ChuckM from PABy pointing out the obvious, the way he did (having a gut feeling) is his way of saying that he has great insight (even if he is only fooling himself) and you watch, if it comes true, he will be the first to say, I told you so. Now if it was something that isn't so obvious, he would be taking a chance of being considered a "nut case"; so he chooses a safe item for broadcasting his prophetic abilities.
"Nobody said this to me
July 30, 2008 - 10:02 ET by ckc1227"Nobody said this to me directly but I get the feeling from my talks
that if the sanctions don’t work Israel is going to strike Iran."
You had to travel to Israel to figure that out?
Real Duh... like Obama is
July 30, 2008 - 10:07 ET by Dan The Man 2Real Duh... like Obama is telling these clowns something taht hasn't been around for a long while. I have been hearing on FNC that Israel may strike Iran before President Bush leaves office. Supposedly bnecause President Bush will be more sympathetic to allow Israel to cross Iraqi airspace.
Ohh wait I forgot he is talking to the kids who ride the short bus.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
If the sanctions don't
July 30, 2008 - 10:08 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsIf the sanctions don't work, that means Iran will continue to work towards building a nuclear arsenal which they have vowed to use to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Why wouldn't Israel attack Iran if that were the case?
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"Nobody said this to me
July 30, 2008 - 10:09 ET by bassndude"Nobody said this to me directly but I get the feeling from my talks that if the sanctions don’t work Israel is going to strike Iran."
After a visit to Israel, Obama is now an astute observer of international attitudes. Clairvoyant to the extent that he can see Israel attacking Iran, instead of wating for Iran to nuke Israel. What a startling revelation. </sarc/>
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Good news for Obama is he
July 30, 2008 - 10:12 ET by ApacheGood news for Obama is he is running against McCain who is a 'climate change' sheep and kissing Pelosi's rear. Pelosi is as popular as head lice and here we see McCain praising her. That makes him look like an isolated Washington insider. Plus acting as a 'climate change' sheep (what happened to Global Warming) doesn't make him a 'maverick'.
Stop your McCain hate
July 31, 2008 - 00:28 ET by Daniel BakerJohn McCain 2008 Protect Traditional Marriage
Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" Obama.
Well said, Apache.
July 31, 2008 - 00:34 ET by R D HelmThe truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
feelings - nothing more than feelings
July 30, 2008 - 10:12 ET by kdizzydazeFeelings - pretty much sums up the democrats and liberals to a tee.
This is almost a Ted Stryker love scene moment (as in the movie Airplane?)
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I have to leave on a secret bombing mission honey.
Where are you going?
Me and the boys are heading over to Iran, we are going to bomb their nuclear facilites to ensure they cannot build a nuclear bomb. We are flying in at 3AM and coming in low from the North to avoid their radar.
When will you be back?
I can't tell you that, it's classified.
eh
July 30, 2008 - 10:13 ET by candanceI can't say I'm surprised by this. Saying you think Israel might hit Iran is like saying you suspect Rush Limbaugh might make fun of Obama today.
The real story will come with what happens next. How does Obama feel about it and what are his plans?
hard to tell C
August 1, 2008 - 20:04 ET by shawn228The more I am finding out about Obama, the more weary I am getting.
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Playing chicken
July 30, 2008 - 10:14 ET by KC MulvilleThe only way to play chicken is to present a credible threat. If you say you're going to retaliate, you have to retaliate exactly as you say you will. In chicken, the trick is to be the first to issue the threat. The opponent has to believe that you're willing to carry out your threat. Israel's attitude is that if Iran goes nuclear, they're going to attack Israel anyway. Whether they send the missiles now or later, therefore, is irrelevant. That's a credible threat.
If we were playing a different game, Obama's popping off to his colleagues might be terribly inappropriate. But this is chicken, and whether he intended it or not, Obama's statement reinforces the credibility of Israel's threat. I'm skeptical that Obama did this intentionally, or realized the effect it would have. But from a strategic standpoint, I'm glad he said it.
KC, Israel has, in a
July 30, 2008 - 10:24 ET by bassndudeKC, Israel has, in a discreete manner, said that they would not wait for Iran to gain nukes before they strike. I do belive the whole world knows this. The fact that Obama is just now catching up, should be scary. The guy is a moron.
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True but ...
July 30, 2008 - 11:17 ET by KC MulvilleFrankly, if I wanted to send a message to Iran, this would be the perfect message. Think of the strategic implications of what Obama said:
Part of the fun in playing chicken is not only trying to guess what your opponent will do, but also how everyone around you will play their hands. Everyone believes that Israel will strike, true, but here we're sending a message how the US will respond. No sanctions. No pre-launch warnings. We're not even going to pretend. If Iran keeps going, we're not going to stop Israel from attacking. But at the same time, the game is Iran's to control. If they stop, there will be peace.
Do I think Obama perceived those implications, and spoke carefully to produce that result? No. I think he was just popping off, trying to sound as if he knew what he was talking about. But the result worked out.
yeah KC
July 30, 2008 - 10:25 ET by candanceI do find it interesting that within the same week Brian Williams is interviewing Ahmadenijad on prime time TV and Obama is in the Senate saying Iran is about to get hit.
You're right. It only makes Israel look all the more serious that Obama could feel it in the air. Obama's not a Reagan or a Bush, someone who believes in swift confrontation. For him to say that means it's pretty serious.
What is most concerning is
July 30, 2008 - 10:22 ET by bradbenj5952What is most concerning is that with Obama's "vast international diplomatic experience", he's just now figuring this out!
My first thought was, "and this is news, how?" I can see the other Dems suddenly turning frantic: "We didn't know this, we must do something! Quick, someone call another session of Congress so we can pass yet another useless law or resolution or something to deal with this new situation!"
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well brad
July 30, 2008 - 10:32 ET by candanceAs much as it pains me to stick up for Obama (my fingers are trying to revolt as I type this) I don't think this is really where Obama just now figured out Israel would do something.
IMO this was prolly more where Obama was physically over there where he could feel the urgency up close and personal. He comes home and tells his friends "look yall this thing for real." We all understand the situation as well, but if we stood in Jerusalem it would probably affect us more deeply ourselves.
I've been watching Israel a
July 30, 2008 - 11:11 ET by bradbenj5952I've been watching Israel a long time and know a little about the end-time prophecies regarding how Israel will be treated by the world in these last days and ultimately attacked. And since our Lord gave us such an accurate picture of these times ignorance is inexcusable.
For a good presentation of an important prophetic passage, see: http://www.youtube.c...
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And now, today's Shrub
July 30, 2008 - 10:27 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's Shrub Report®:
It wasn't just a scene from "Cold Mountain", and it happened on this date.
Today's episode of "Frankie Willson's Only Right-Wingers Burn Books!"
When Poultry Attacks!
Obviously Chimpy McHitler did this by using the "Soylent Green" approach…
So the political party who wants to control more and more of our lives cannot even put on a convention without going millions in the hole? Talk about foreshadowing.
Folks, it's the sage advice like this that has made teamster thug Fast Eddie Rendell the greatest governor in the USA!
Why won't Rezko just go away?
Good news: Iraq can now participate in the Olympics!
I thought Iran was not trying to build nuclear weapons?
Jim Webb aide found perished with a bullet in his head. Let the conspiracy theories commence!
It's time, once again, for Jihadi Bloopers! A bonus episode!
You know, it might be time to stop sending Pakistan money and start treating them like a red-headed step-child.
Today's Party of Peace Update.
Today's Religion of Peace Update.
And, finally, Congress apologizes for slavery.
Great report Shrub. I got
July 30, 2008 - 11:09 ET by dboGreat report Shrub. I got one addition. Lord Monckton eats Gavin Schmidt for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
http://scienceandpub...
Party of Peace Update: Ok
July 30, 2008 - 13:18 ET by mastersofdeceitParty of Peace Update:
Ok now I need to know his reading material.
What did he have in his home? Chomsky, Mailer, Ayers, Wright, Ward Churchill, Obama?
I mean it's relevant right? I wonder why the press didn't report on it./
back by ethical demand
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back by ethical demand - You
July 30, 2008 - 15:58 ET by Dan The Man 2back by ethical demand - You are getting pretty much like all teh MSM reporters when you mimic "some say".
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
i can do one better! one
July 30, 2008 - 16:04 ET by TruthMongeri can do one better!
one (Jesus) say
Yawn.
July 30, 2008 - 17:18 ET by Roger the ShrubberYawn.
"It wasn't just a scene
July 30, 2008 - 16:15 ET by Carl Kolchak"It wasn't just a scene from "Cold Mountain", and it happened on this date. "
Seems like the same result for the North as what happened with Cold Harbor a few months prior. Meade and Grant were also at Cold Harbor.
Good to hear from you, Carl...
July 30, 2008 - 17:00 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe important question is, was Jude Law at Cold Harbor?
"The important question is,
July 30, 2008 - 19:44 ET by Carl Kolchak"The important question is, was Jude Law at Cold Harbor?"
I don't think he was at Cold Harbor, but he was at Stalingrad.
Once again, Carl proves
July 31, 2008 - 08:24 ET by Roger the ShrubberOnce again, Carl proves that his brain is bigger than a shrubber's!
How the news skews: Juxtaposition of stories.
July 30, 2008 - 10:27 ET by mattmFrom a local news station (considered to be the most conservative station in town) a couple days ago:
Story 1: Budget deficit. Last line of the segment: "deficit inherited by the next president." ( immediately they cut to next story showing a clip of Obama on the campaign trail)
Story 2. Obama campaign, general coverage totally unrelated to the previous story.
The viewer hears "the next president" and the next thing they see is Obaba.
This is what they do. Goebbels would be proud.
P.S. NB Staff. Can you please change the default for links to "Open In New Window" - it's really a pain to have to go off the NB page for a link and then hit "back"...especially if I want to view a video - like the O'Reilly/McClellan piece, while reading the post. Thanks.
mattm
July 30, 2008 - 11:35 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsCan you please change the default for links to "Open In New Window" -
it's really a pain to have to go off the NB page for a link and then
hit "back"
If you would use your right mouse button (assuming you are not using a Mac) on the link you can select from the menu 'Open in New Tab' or 'Open in New Window'.
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I know this. It's just
July 30, 2008 - 11:52 ET by mattmI know this. It's just easier if it's the default. When I update links on a site I do editing for, and when I include links here on NB, I always set the link to open in new window. I just think this is what the default should be.
"If necessity is the mother of invention, laziness is the father of it." - Me
right click on link
July 30, 2008 - 11:41 ET by SouthJersey1953All you have to do is "right click" on the link, then select "open in new window"
yes, it would be nice to have this as the default, but the right click works just as well....
mattm, Or just hold down
July 30, 2008 - 11:41 ET by hydrodynDMmattm,
Or just hold down the Shift key before clicking on the link - that will open up a new window as well.
What a DUH! moment...
July 30, 2008 - 10:37 ET by c5thenYhis has been obvious to most thinking people for a long time now. The real question is how far will Israel allow the santions to drag on for before they take their own action? Iran is obviously not going to stop enriching Uranium, nor are they going to stop developing their ICBMs.
All I hope for is that the missle defense system works well and is already deployed in the middle east somewhere.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Feelings
July 30, 2008 - 10:59 ET by iveseenitallWhen a "liberal" like Barry gets the "feeling", watch out. "Liberals" live on feelings, cerainly not on facts. And what is he implying anyway? That Isreal might defend itself? Oh, God forbid. Obama, like most Dems, is a naive coward who will put us all in mortal danger. He didn't want to fight in Iraq and now he won't even admit our victory. God help us if this incompent pretty boy gets elected.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Obama's Freudian Slip
July 30, 2008 - 10:59 ET by GothampcWhen Obama said "Israel is Israel's best friend" everyone chalked it up to a slip of the tongue. I'm not so sure but that those words are really what is in Obama's heart. I think Israel will have a hard time with Obama as POTUS.
I don't think it was appropriate for Obama to say that publicly. Our leaders shouldn't be going around on the information "Nobody told me, but..." That's what they criticized GWB for: going into Iraq without proper intelligence.
If decisions are to be made, let there be concrete proof, not merely "I felt a thrill run up my leg when I was talking to Olmert".
Stupid...
July 30, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Clear thinkerAs soon as this get's back to Israel, Obama can expect a nicely worded note from them basically asking him... "Are you really that stupid?"
Think of all the implications someone may surmise by this one statement by Obama.
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McCain trumps Miss Spider!!! Stop the presses!!!
July 30, 2008 - 11:15 ET by eL DubyaWow. This story from Milwaukee's JSOnline.com weblog (how hip) of local "news":
WEDNESDAY, July 30, 2008, 9:10 a.m.
By Sharif Durhams
McCain trumps Miss Spider
A kids' summer reading program in Racine is getting bumped Thursday for a visit by a presidential candidate.
The Racine Public Library was planning to host the finale of its Summer Reading Challenge, featuring "Miss Spider's Tea Party." Then Republican John McCain scheduled a town hall meeting at the Racine Civic Centre around the same time.
Apparently, that's a lot of activity to squeeze into a few blocks, so the summer reading event had to go.
Don't worry faithful readers. Ms. Spider has been rescheduled for Friday at 1:30 p.m.
Hmmph, who does McCain
July 30, 2008 - 11:29 ET by Dan The Man 2Hmmph, who does McCain think he is, the President or somethin?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
The world is ready for change because Obama is here!
July 30, 2008 - 12:01 ET by CTObama's rap-man Ludacris has a new campaign rap for Obama that says a lot about all involved: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1
One more racist supporter for Obama to throw under his bus.
NOBAMUNISTS PLEASE!
Obama notes ‘tragic’ US past
July 30, 2008 - 12:21 ET by CTIs this what Obama's rappers have been taught in our public schools?
http://starbulletin.com/2008/07/28/news/story05.html
NOBAMUNISTS PLEASE!
Need a good laugh
July 30, 2008 - 12:35 ET by ricklailThese items are from Nealz Newz:
Algore or Unibomber. Take the quiz
John Kerry party animal.
Be kind to your kids. They'll be choosing your nursing home.
Olmert to Step Aside
July 30, 2008 - 12:36 ET by GothampcIt has been announced that Olmert will step aside. Perhaps that was the weird feeling Obama was getting and not that they planned to attack Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331146843&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Goth... He really had no
July 30, 2008 - 12:43 ET by bigtimerGoth...
He really had no choice now did he? He never could of won...anything...
Glad to see him go myself.
Going to be very interesting what happens in Sept.
Thanks for the update....much appreciated.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Jokes on Obama
July 30, 2008 - 15:34 ET by GothampcI agree that Olmert had to go. And I will be watching. I hope Israel can make the right choice.
Now Obama has to go back over there and kiss up to some new leader of Israel.
And where is Tony Blair in all of this? Isn't he supposed to be some special diplomat to the Middle East?
That weird feeling Obama had was just...
July 30, 2008 - 13:08 ET by ChuckM from PAThat weird feeling Obama was getting, I have it on good word that it was just gas, that's all it was.
Obama has a vision... what a mensch
July 30, 2008 - 12:44 ET by Jack BauerIs this guy trying to be funny?
How exactly was that feeling received by the Obamessiah?
A few Tablets from God. A burning "bush"? A vision?
Or naybe it was something he heard being talked about on EVERY FRACKIN' NEWSPAPER, BLOG, and CABLE NEWS CHANNEL for the past YEAR!!!!!!!
Oil Decreases: Dow Increases
July 30, 2008 - 13:08 ET by JDWGovernment shutdown
JDW
JDW... I heard a little
July 30, 2008 - 13:15 ET by bigtimerJDW...
I heard a little something about this this morning...
I wonder if that is partly the reason why oil is up 4.30 or so a barrel last I looked....
Depressing for us that have to travel far daily...on the other hand the repubs have a huge mission to run on!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Goal
July 30, 2008 - 13:37 ET by JDWMy concern is the libs dedicated assault on energy independence.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
So is mine JDW... As you
July 30, 2008 - 13:48 ET by bigtimerSo is mine JDW...
As you must know by now with me.
I had to give the Senate a break today...going to turn it back there after Rush is over.
There was some great after hours floor speeches last night in the House about all of this of course it was the conservatives.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Fits right in
July 30, 2008 - 15:08 ET by NorthCoasterwith the rest of the far left. Chuck Schumer says that a particular bank is having trouble and voila IndyBank has a run on it. NY Times tells stories about CIA operations and critical programs are exposed.
You can't expect them to keep a secrets or tell the truth can you? They seem to get a thrill or excitement out of having the power to affect the World by twisting or mis-using their knowledge.
These are people that I would have a hard time trusting with anything.
Heather Wilson
July 30, 2008 - 15:27 ET by bigtimerI see congresswoman Heather Wilson, from New Mexico on television more and more lately, anyway on msnbc...she does a great job, she took care of Matthews last week...she just took care of Shuster to a point.
The reason I am bringing this up...sometime back somewhere we were all talking about picks for a conservative running mate for McCain and I mentioned her...
I was hoping she would run to take Domenici's (sp) place for the Senate...now I am still hoping McCain would pick her...she served in the military for 20 or so years, has had experience with NATO too.
I know...hope is an over-used word.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
i'm seeing into the future...
July 30, 2008 - 15:35 ET by TruthMongershe's doing so well that suddenly she may be "stung" by a "airport bathroom sex sting"
and a tabloid will break the story - magically becoming a reliable news source for the MSM again:)!
Domenici's support for her
July 30, 2008 - 15:37 ET by BuffNBoneDomenici's support for her came quite late -- less than a week before the primary. She didn't make it past the primary to Steve Pierce from NM 3rd District.
So I think in this sense she is damaged goods. The likelihood of not delivering a small number of electoral votes (5) from an adjacent state does little to help the ticket
Though an Academy graduate, I'm pretty sure she didn't serve 20 years either.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Here's a link that Pop Tech
July 30, 2008 - 16:51 ET by mandrakeHere's a link that Pop Tech can add to his seemly endless list of lists. He can put it near the bottom...that way noone will ever read it.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/080729/canada/technology_iceshelf_fracture
"We came, we
July 30, 2008 - 18:40 ET by Blazer"We came, we saw,........
........... we gave em' a 20 piece extra crispy, with mashed potatoes, coleslaw and rolls"
- Col. Sanders
If this aint' proof the surge has worked and the war is just about won, then you tell me what is.
http://northshorejournal.org/kentucky-fried-chicken-sizzles-in-fallujah
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
The U.S. Dept. of the
July 30, 2008 - 19:23 ET by RESTLESS 1The U.S. Dept. of the Interior speaks. I hope the dems can feel the end is near.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Hey R1... Now that is a
July 30, 2008 - 19:46 ET by bigtimerHey R1...
Now that is a keeper...I am in the middle of cooking dinner but I read most of it...thank you.
Now this is going to be priceless if this gets to the Budget bill that includes the congressional moratorium this is going to wake up people all across this county as long as the repubs make sure and use the airwaves in unison beforehand, say at least start a couple of weeks to show who is to blame for the gas prices and stoppage of out own oil here...therefore the govt. shut-down.
I heard today that Californians are voting 70% for off-shore drilling there...there is a poll somewhere I heard Heather Wilson say that on msnbc this afternoon.
This could be more than perfect for the right side of the aisle and the american people in the long run.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT,
July 30, 2008 - 22:16 ET by RESTLESS 1Sorry for the lag time. Kids had me busy.
I just hope the republicans have the uhhhh... NADS to go through with their last resort if it comes to that. That sounds like a win-win to me. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Hey R1... No problem...I
July 30, 2008 - 22:23 ET by bigtimerHey R1...
No problem...I know how that goes...
...anyway, I am looking forward to this if it comes to pass...very much so.
A win all the way...
Btw, I thank you again, I wouldn't of known anything about this... I told my husband about this also...we are both on the same page.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Lets decriminalize marijuana
July 30, 2008 - 20:33 ET by shawn228From my understanding judging from many of the posters here re legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana. Most republicans here are against it and most libertarians are for it.
In my opinion, I am completely for it and it looks like some legislators are taking steps to do so. I doubt it will pass, but I am glad the effort is being made
Real life video games are cool
Make it legal, but give it
July 30, 2008 - 20:39 ET by balboaMake it legal, but give it the same stipulations as alcohol.
No driving with the
July 30, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Free StinkerNo driving with the munchies? ;-)
bal...
July 30, 2008 - 21:39 ET by Clear thinkerDo you have any ideas as to how it would work if legalized?
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How what would work? The
July 30, 2008 - 21:43 ET by balboaHow what would work? The effects of legalizing it? Or the logistics?
Logistics first.
July 30, 2008 - 21:46 ET by Clear thinker45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
I have no idea what's
July 30, 2008 - 22:01 ET by balboaI have no idea what's involved in something like that.
I'm sure you're going to enlighten me, though.
Ok, bal...
July 30, 2008 - 22:05 ET by Clear thinkerI will try something easier...
If legalized and controlled by the Government, or even privatized, who sets the limits on potency?
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Oh! Oh!! I know this
July 30, 2008 - 22:08 ET by Free StinkerOh! Oh!! I know this one.
~
July 31, 2008 - 20:51 ET by Free Stinker/Gets tired of holding hand in air/
Well, I'll just blurt out the answer: The FDA will set the limits.
"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)
Hi Free...
July 31, 2008 - 21:19 ET by Clear thinkerHow's things with you?
Sorry you had to hold your hand up for so long, as I was waiting to see if you-know-who would answer.
I imagine it would be FDA that sets the potency limit, but that in itself creates another problem. Even Pot smokers are always looking for a higher high, so if the FDA sets the potency level fairly low, then it's only a matter of time before pot smokers go back to buying higher quality pot on the streets. Legalizing and enforcing would become a joke.
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Clear
July 31, 2008 - 21:23 ET by Free StinkerTrue. I don't imagine there is any good way to go about it.
Of course, if Congress thought they could get enough tax revenue I'm not so sure they would care . . .
Clear thinker
July 30, 2008 - 22:35 ET by shawn228What I would do is regulate it, just like I would alcohol. I would enforce driving under the influence of marijuana just like a DUI. The goverment would grow it in their approved fields and hemp is also a good source to make clothes and a easily grown biofuel
You can only do it in the privacy of your own home or in a special red light district where prostitution would legal as well.
I would heavily tax both and it would toward rehabiitation instead of prison and any access will go toward paying our national debt.
Real life video games are cool
Yea, thats great Shawn. The
July 30, 2008 - 23:11 ET by BlazerYea, thats great Shawn. The government's done a wonderful job regulating alcohol. Although I am against legalizing marijuana I am most explicity against having to compete with an extra bunch of stoners at Wendy's and Taco bell at one o' clock in the morning.
Dude, hows Uncle Ham and cheddar,..... I mean Uncle Samwitch........jeez,.....I mean Uncle Sam gonna regulate that. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
blazer
July 30, 2008 - 23:23 ET by shawn228Your a family man, what are you doing at Wendys at 1 in the morning anyway?
Lol, I have told you my political positions in the past. Love conservative ideas for taxes and defending our country, but hate nanny state laws regarding things that don't effect anybody else except for ourselves. marijuana, prostitution, euthanasia. I am not including abortion, because imo there is the argument that the fetus is another person.
Why does the government need to get involved in things that are not their business?
Also, except for a small temptation from a fellow fan at a Oakland Raiders game last yr, my pot days are a while ago and I am happily married. So its not like I want to indulge, I just feel it is wrong to nanny state personal freedoms
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well Shawn
July 30, 2008 - 23:30 ET by candanceI hate to post and run but it's getting late, so here I'm leaving you a little sumpin to think of me.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2000/10/03/dont_do_drug_legalization&Comments=true
fair enough candance
July 30, 2008 - 23:40 ET by shawn228I read the article. I am wanting to legalize marijuana, not crack or cocaine or crystal meth. These drugs do effect people and people could literally die from withdrawal, Sure you can die of lung cancer from smoking it, but you can die from tobacco smoke as well.
Also, I am not advocating getting stoned during work, just like I would not advocate getting wasted at work.
You have good sleep candance :-)
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"Your a family man,
July 31, 2008 - 20:46 ET by Blazer"Your a family man, what are you doing at Wendys at 1 in the morning anyway? "
You've been here long enough to know Shawn, that although a conservative I certainly am not a puritan. Back in my younger days i probably smoked half of Columbia. I am for the legalisation of Mary Jane in the respect it is packaged regulated and taxed like tobacco. Yet, I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a libertarian.
As far as being at Wendy's at one o' clock in the morning, hell I drag the family with me, they get the munchies too. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Thx Blazer
July 31, 2008 - 20:55 ET by shawn228I mean if Republicans want to preach freedom, do they mean their kind of freedom? or real freedom?
That is why I am at odds on the upcoming election. Do I want the Dems to nanny state what we can eat, pay for other peoples food and homes with my money, or do I want the GOP to tell me what I can watch on tv, what is moral and what is not?
I told this to cool arrow the other day, I need Viagra because I am having some serious electile disfuntion. Not aroused at the current candidates that is for sure.
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Again with the Cogent Remarks Shawn
July 31, 2008 - 21:10 ET by Free Stinkerdo I want the GOP to tell me what I can watch on tv, what is moral and what is not?
Thats's a fair question Shawn, but I think the difference is that yo can watch whatever on a cable channel. The broadcast channels are on the airwaves which are considered "public property", and IIRC that's the reasoning behind TV regulation.
I don't want to tell anyone what they can not watch. I didn't like idiot Mayer's show on HBO so I cancelled HBO. I miss Entourage & Big Love, but I'm sure they'll be on Bravo some day.
"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)
freestinker
July 31, 2008 - 22:17 ET by shawn228I see your POV. These are public airwaves. I know its gets old, but I still use the if you don't like it turn if off approach and there are many v chip technologies available.
I would be all for your idea if an individual can buy channels a la carte. The reason is the cable channels would be at a extreme disadvantage because of adverstising.
Pay channels only rely on revenue from people subscibing to their channels and don't have commercials. NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS and the CW all have ad revenue. I mean NBC is getting easily 100 million of ad revenue for the Olympics
Like you free, I am a parent, and I believe in protecting our children as well. That is why I say profanity or nudity is allowed after 10 pm on public airwaves. It would solve the problem about children seeing something they should not, if adults know they should not watch after 10
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"or do I want the GOP to
July 31, 2008 - 21:33 ET by Blazer"or do I want the GOP to tell me what I can watch on tv, what is moral and what is not? "
LOL,like the MSM isn't running their broadcasts through a liberal filter before it reaches your t.v.
At any rate Shawn perhaps the DNC doesn't tell you what is moral and what is wrong, because they are immoral and have no concept of morality.
Anyway, as far as I remember, the last person who was trying to impose censorship with her Congressional hearings upon the public was Tipper Gore. That is if you discount the libs in Congress who would like to impose the fairness doctrine so we conservatives will STFU and join and vote like the rest of the sheep.
Tell me again who are the fair and tolerant steadfast supporters of the first amendment?
The GOP may tell you what is moral and what is not, the DNC will not only tell you, they will come up with legislation and force you to abide by it.
Just sayin' Shawn, the first amendment and freedom of speech seems to be the sticking point with you, but it aint' the the GOP tryin' to shut everybody up. In fact we conservatives love everyone to speak freely. Everytime Obama opens his mouth his poll numbers drop.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
July 31, 2008 - 21:53 ET by shawn228I'm not going to deny that you have a very valid point. The Dems seem to want to censor anything that hurts anybodys feelings, They want to tell us it is not our choice on what fast food we want, and find it obsene that Rush Limbaugh makes 400 million dollars. Good for him, I don't agree with much of what he says, but that is free enterprise and the way it should be, just like Howard Stern.
I have always told you the people I am the most weary of in the GOP are the extreme religious right. The wants that want to censor Howard Stern and even want to regulate satellite radio, want to ban porn and sodomy.
Are most republicans this extreme? Probably not, but I would say the majority of them don't approve of euthansia or prostitution, because they are considered sins.
Blazer, I told you in the past that I grew up in another country and I have duo citizenship. I did not live here most of my life and the first time I ever heard of Senator McCain was in the mid-ninetys. I am/was a big fan of the UFC "ultimate fighing championship". I remember that a influencial senator was trying to ban this, because he found that it was a very barbaric practice. I remember being angry about it then and it makes me weary that he might apply the same tactics to his Presidency.
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"Blazer, I told you in
July 31, 2008 - 22:37 ET by Blazer"Blazer, I told you in the past that I grew up in another country and I have duo citizenship. I did not live here most of my life
Damn Shawn, I've heard of the "race card" but the "Canuck card" is truly a first. My hats off to you. : )
Your giving examples of the extreme right, and not the extreme left. I consider myself a moderate conservative, hell, alcohol, porn and sodomy are a part of my diet.
I find it funny that people like to point out that Rush is making mad millions off of the "public airwaves" without pointing out that the big three and "Air America" and "NPR" also broadcast across the public spectrum, without impugnity or objectiveness.
In a capitalist free market society, people are buying what Rush is selling, and the left has got their butts all hurt over it, cause nobodies buying the lefts, whiny broken down crap over the radio. Boo Hoo.
In fact noones watching CNN, MSNBC, buying the NYT or LAT. Strange aint' it?
Thats why Nancy Pewlousy and Harry Reid are disguising the fairness doctrine as a p.c. attempt at leveling the playing field, although it is outright censorship.
Also radio waves are intercepted from all directions of the universe by instruments like the "Very Large Array" and "Arecibo" all of the time and were here since the inception of the "Big Bang", many billions of yrs. ago. In fact , passive radio astronomy is our main source of studying and understanding the universe.Are they owned by the American public who have only utilised the radio spectrum for the last 150 yrs. or so ?
Someone may want to send a cease and desist order to the other intelligent lifeforms in the universe and inform them that the radio spectrum is owned by "the American public", we may be due royalties and damages from trademark infringements.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
"I find it funny that
July 31, 2008 - 22:42 ET by shawn228"I find it funny that people like to point out that Rush is making mad
millions off of the "public airwaves" without pointing out that the big
three and "Air America" and "NPR" also broadcast across the public
spectrum, without impugnity or objectiveness."
I could not agree more Blazer, the reason AA can't make money and get people to listen to them is because they cannot sell their product, it is not vast right wing conspirisy. Folks just like listening to GOP talk radio and not Progressive talk radio, simple as that. If people buy what you are selling and your popular, is how it should be.
Now right back at you though Blazer, just like conservatives were sick and tired of the MSM, along came FOX news. It is the # 1 cable network in the US. If conservatives feel they are tired of liberal tv shows, why don't conservatives create a new channel and broadcast conservative shows and see if it sells instead of complaining about liberal themed shows
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"just like conservatives
July 31, 2008 - 22:48 ET by Blazer"just like conservatives were sick and tired of the MSM, along came FOX news. It is the # 1 cable network in the US. "
Shawn, its because Fox is truly "fair and balanced", the way a news channel is supposed to be and not a liberal echo chamber like the big three, CNN or MSNBC.
Whens the last time you saw Keith Olbermann debating a conservative. Never.
Bill O'Reilly has liberals on all the time, and schools them.
I'm looking at more liberals lately when I turn on FNC than I could hope to see in Denver in August. Except they dont' drink the Kool-Aid like the automo-trons that have the party symbol tattooed on their asses like the other networks do.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
"...instead of complaining
July 31, 2008 - 23:12 ET by RESTLESS 1"...instead of complaining about liberal themed shows"
Thanks Shawn. You just made out point for us. NEWS shows are not supposed to be "LIBERAL THEMED SHOWS", especially when so many Americans still get their news from them. All we want is news, without the liberal spin.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless
July 31, 2008 - 23:22 ET by shawn228I was talking about the News in the first sentence, but the next I was talking about regular tv shows.
Many conservatives here feel that the liberals are trying to set their leftist agenda with liberal themed tv shows like Will and Grace or The Tila Tequia show.
Why don't conservatives buy their own network and see if conservative themed tv shows fly with the general public.
I'm sure a show would get huge ratings if it focused on nuking em till they glow in the dark,, why being gay is wrong and why we need to keep grandpa on the respirator so he can make it through the gates of heaven :-)
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Shawn,
July 31, 2008 - 23:24 ET by RESTLESS 1So then you agree that the msm tilts,(hell, falls over), left and that is wrong? You're coming around.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Yes Restless
July 31, 2008 - 23:31 ET by shawn228I do admit it and I do see it, NB has taught me that. However, I believe some NB articles are embelished. Not all, but some.
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Many liberals feel that
July 31, 2008 - 23:25 ET by BlazerMany liberals feel that the conservatives are trying to set their far right agenda with conservative themed talk radio shows like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity.
Why dont' liberals buy their own radio network and see if liberal themed talk radio shows fly with the general public?
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
July 31, 2008 - 23:29 ET by shawn228The answer is simple, they would fail. Not many liberals like to listen to am radio. They have tried to with AA and it is not a winning formula.
If conservatives are not happy with what is on tv today, they should put some capital together and launch their own network. There is no shortage of wealthy republicans.
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"If conservatives are
July 31, 2008 - 23:49 ET by Blazer"If conservatives are not happy with what is on tv today, they should put some capital together and launch their own network. There is no shortage of wealthy republicans."
Shawn, c'mon man thats like sayin' some day mankind will go to the moon or invent the wheel.
Muuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, too late Shawn.
According to most liberals we allready have Shawn and they are none too taken with the cable news ratings monster that is Fox News.
FDS: Fox Derangement Syndrome
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
FOX News is a news channel
July 31, 2008 - 23:54 ET by shawn228I'm talking about a mainstream tv station. I heard Robert Murdoch owns a lot regular FOX stock as well.
He can have Dr. House tell his patients that euthanisia is wrong, he can have Jack Bauer torture congress baddies for not drilling in Anwar or have Toby Keith theme night once a month on American Idol.
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So I take this as your
August 1, 2008 - 00:05 ET by BlazerSo I take this as your being a braggard that mainstream tv is so liberal. By the way it's Rupert Murdoch. Shows how much your payin' attention.
Shawn you can say that your seeing the light, or your more of a libertarian, but when pressed your liberal stripes show time and time again.
Then again maybe I expect too much from someone who is an ex-patriot from a country that has a human rights commision and loves to prosecute conservatives for mind-crimes.
Looks like your bringing those same Canuckistan values south with you, not escaping them.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
"So I take this as your
August 1, 2008 - 00:38 ET by shawn228"So I take this as your being a braggard that mainstream tv is so
liberal. .."
I'm not bragging at all Blazer its a fact, just like how Conservatives own talk radio is a fact. I'm not sure how I am showing my liberal stripes, but I imagine those Jim and Cokes are starting to really take effect. You have a good night Blazer, hope you are not too hung over for work tomorrow.
"Back in my younger days i probably smoked half of Columbia."
Maybe that is why you love Star Wars so much, the force was with you :-)
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No you were bragging, you
August 1, 2008 - 00:49 ET by BlazerNo you were bragging, you threw that in our faces like you were proud. So be it.
You said Jack and Cokes were your favorite. Jack has 10 % more alcohol than Jim. Thanks fo your concern but I work 4-ten hour days. Today is my Friday. So kiss it.
I saw Star Wars long before I started smoking weed Shawn, maybe your mom didn't stop smoking weed before she concieved you. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 1, 2008 - 00:52 ET by shawn228I was not bragging bud:-) I also never said Jack and Cokes were my favorite, in fact I don't drink at all. I have a bad back, so I have a little bit of a vicodin addiction, but I am trying to ween myself off it and have not had a pill for over a month.
Anyways I remember from our past conversations that is is not easy debating you after you had too many, so good night and have a good day off :-)
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"so I have a little bit
August 1, 2008 - 01:17 ET by Blazer"so I have a little bit of a vicodin addiction"
Nice try at trying to pidgeon hole me as some blowhard drunk after you admit your a drug addict, Shawn. No irony there at all.
Theres no such thing as a little bit of a Heroin, Cocaine or a "Vicodin addiction".
Hey, I wouldn't want to debate me either. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 1, 2008 - 01:22 ET by shawn228I have not accussed you of being a blowhard drunk, I have not bragged that the liberals own tv.
I take vicodin because I have had a bad back for many years, but I am trying not to depend on it too much so I am trying out Tylonal 3's.
"Theres no such thing as a little bit of a Heroin, Cocaine or a "Vicodin addiction"."
Kind of a cheap shot there Blazer, I did not think you would use it against me when I volunteered that information.
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"that is is not easy
August 1, 2008 - 01:29 ET by Blazer"that is is not easy debating you after you had too many, so good night and have a good day off :-) "
That wasn't a cheap shot?
Quinn from Jaws would be envious of my lower back from the scars the disks that I've have removed. unless of course you ave a monopoly on bad backs.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Yeah Shawn, don't be
August 1, 2008 - 01:35 ET by MrShyYeah Shawn, don't be Bogart'ing the bad-back/woe-is-me tales. These days, my back is permanently aching, it seems.
Of course, playing hard-nosed, thug-style street basketball with men much larger and younger than myself doesn't help any.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
blazer
August 1, 2008 - 01:38 ET by shawn228No it was not a cheap shot, we have debated before and the next morning you have admitted you said things that you regret after having a few drinks, that is all. If you took it otherwise, I apologize.
I'm not whining about my back, I am just saying I have had a prescription for a while now, and I said I am trying to ween myself off. Anyways it really is late, this will be last response of the night, you take care.
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"we have debated before
August 1, 2008 - 01:50 ET by Blazer"we have debated before and the next morning you have admitted you said things that you regret after having a few drinks"
Shawn there you go, "few drinks".
Aren't you the crackhead,.....oh excuse me vicodin addict?
I am sorry you got your butt hurt this time, but I aint' apologisin'. I apologised for the personal attacks and name calling the last time, I wont' apologise for winning the battle of ideaolgies this time.
I dont' see anyone running to your defense.
If you want someone to apologise to you the next morning, well guy I cant' help you. Even you have to admit that sounded ghey.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
No gheyness here:-)
August 1, 2008 - 20:00 ET by shawn228I never said you were a drunk, I never bragged the liberals have control over regular tv, I never asked for an apology. I was the one that apologized to you for taking it the wrong way remember, I don't expect anyone to run to my defense, I can take care of mself
Anyways Blazer, no hard feelings.
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Shawn, this post almost a
August 1, 2008 - 20:28 ET by BlazerShawn, this post almost a day old, it's water under the bridge I think its sad you feel the need to revisit it,for the sake of getting the last word in edgewise.
The fact is, before I took any cheap shots on your character, when I took you to task on the issues you felt the need to point out that I like to also enjoy alcohol. In other words it was a weak attempt at character assasination by you.
"Hey look everybody Blazer has an opinion, he also happens to drink"
Before that admitting you may have a slight Vicodin addiction. Irony?
Thats the way, I took it anyway.
"we have debated before and the next morning you have admitted you said
things that you regret after having a few drinks, that is all"
.....yet you convienently leave out the part of apologising for taking it the wrong way.
At any rate dont' accuse me of being an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 1, 2008 - 20:34 ET by shawn228I was not trying to get in the last word, I was merely explaining that I was not looking for an apology and I was just having fun, and was sorry that you took it that way.
Also this is the first time I had a chance to take a look at it, I had to go to work today. I just wanted to clear the air, that is it.
edit
Also, I have not had a vicodin prescripton refill for years. I still have most of my pills, because I did not take them during the week and only during weekends.
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Hey, I dont' care what your
August 1, 2008 - 20:47 ET by BlazerHey, I dont' care what your Vicodin status is, thats your personal life, you proffered up that info. before you felt it was necessary to point out I drink.
With that said I have had diskectomy surgery and have lived with pain and back problems for the past 14 yrs. since, so I am not poking fun on at you on that accord, trust me
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Many liberals feel that the
July 31, 2008 - 23:43 ET by BlazerMany liberals feel that the conservatives are trying to set their far-right agenda with conservative themed shows like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Shaun Hannitty.
Why dont' you liberals buy your own radio network and see if liberal themed radio shows fly with the general public.
I'm sure a show would get huge ratings if it focused on capitulating to an Islamic enemy till' you glowed in the dark, why unless your a chicken you cant' cocieve through your anus, and why someone either needs to pull the plug or needs to put a pillow over grandpas face so we can get that frickin' inheritance money.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
"I'm sure a show would get
August 1, 2008 - 00:00 ET by shawn228"I'm sure a show would get huge ratings if it focused on capitulating to
an Islamic enemy till' you glowed in the dark, why unless your a
chicken you cant' cocieve through your anus, and why someone either
needs to pull the plug or needs to put a pillow over grandpas face so
we can get that frickin' inheritance money. "
lol, exactly blazer, but it won't be easy getting that inheritance money because those evil liberal doctors would be trying to save his life with that immoral stem cell research, which they happenned to obtain from a undocumented worker.
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"lol, exactly blazer, but
August 1, 2008 - 00:19 ET by Blazer"lol, exactly blazer, but it won't be easy getting that inheritance money because those evil liberal doctors would be trying to save his life with that immoral stem cell research, which they happenned to obtain from a undocumented worker."
If they could have only killed gramps in the womb first, they wouldnt have needed to try and save his life with another child stricken from the womb.
You know Shawn those kind and compassionate liberals that value human life.
Touche'
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
blazer
August 1, 2008 - 00:31 ET by shawn228Yes they did get him in the womb Blazer, only they did not use any sharp instruments, they decided to use the evil "morning after pill"
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Just emigrate already
July 31, 2008 - 02:27 ET by UnsaneReally, I can't understand why you just can't move to the Netherlands. You know, that up-and-coming world hyperpower that allows its citizens to use drugs; that coddles, completely pampers and babies them when they start to seriously screw themselves up...
Oh wait. I forgot. The Netherlands is NOT an up-and-coming world hyperpower. For some strange reason, it is a charter member of Unsane's you-know-what club.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Change your signature Unsane
July 31, 2008 - 20:50 ET by Daniel Bakervote against him (by voting for McCain) is a moral coward. There is no other way to vote against him you need to make that clear to people-.
John McCain 2008 Protect Traditional Marriage
Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" Obama.
Unsane
July 31, 2008 - 21:02 ET by shawn228Who is saying I want anybody to coddle anyone, I am saying marijuana and prostitution should be legal.
If people do these things behind closed doors, they are not bothering you at all. You just don't them to have the right, just because you disapprove.
Its like an older guy telling you they find all Rock bands are bad influences and devil worshipers and rot your mind and tell you, that you have no right to go to any more Rush concerts.
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"Its like an older guy
July 31, 2008 - 22:41 ET by RESTLESS 1"Its like an older guy telling you they find all Rock bands are bad influences and devil worshipers and rot your mind..."
You mean like tipper gore and senators gore and rockefeller?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
"You mean like tipper gore
July 31, 2008 - 22:49 ET by shawn228"You mean like tipper gore and senators gore and rockefeller?"
Thats exactly what I mean R1. I'm not sure if that comment was aimed toward me, but I think that you are forgetting that I believe in free speech, even if it is something Istrongly oppose. Unsane will disagree with this statement, but I am no hypocrite. I practice what I preach.
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"but I think that you are
July 31, 2008 - 22:55 ET by Blazer"but I think that you are forgetting that I believe in free speech, even if it is something Istrongly oppose"
You believe in (liberal) freedom of speech, although you strongly oppose (conservative free speech) it. Spoken like a true liberal.
Huh? Shawn, I think its time you went to bed. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
ummm blazer
July 31, 2008 - 23:08 ET by shawn228You told me before you like drinks when you get home, so i'm assuming a few Jack and Cokes tonight instead of bad reading comprehension, when did I say I don't believe in conservative free speech????
I said a few post above, liberals should stop complaining about Rush Limbaugh and suck it up and I find nothing wrong with him making 400 million dollars. So unless I typed something I forgot about, I would love it, if you could point it out to me :-)
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Tonight it's Jim and
July 31, 2008 - 23:15 ET by BlazerTonight it's Jim and Cokes and not just a few. I was just poking fun at your typo trying to bust your balls Shawn. Just tryin' to get a rise out of ya', I know thats not really what you think.
Ironically, during my many dalliances over to the left, like Kos, DU or Huffpo , I have heard that same screed many times.
"I believe in free speech, even if it is something Istrongly oppose"
I couldn't help but to point it out. I have seen that same sentence pecked out on many a post.
Translation: I believe in free (liberal) speech.
To your credit I am more than sure you see the irony and hypocrisy with it.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
"I practice what I
July 31, 2008 - 23:20 ET by RESTLESS 1"I practice what I preach."
So, a Testament fan are you?
Shawn, I was pointing out that you constantly criticize the right for infringing on free speech rights, while conveniently forgetting that you house is made of glass.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
"Shawn, I was pointing out
July 31, 2008 - 23:44 ET by shawn228"Shawn, I was pointing out that you constantly criticize the right for
infringing on free speech rights, while conveniently forgetting that
you house is made of glass."
I'm sorry R1, that is a comment botg would make and it is cryptic and I don't understand it.
What does house of glass mean? Also do you mean the glass house belongs to me or the liberal party in general?
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Ugh
August 5, 2008 - 06:37 ET by UnsaneHey, I'm no hypocrite either. I use drugs like alcohol and nicotine. You know, the LEGAL varieties.
I was merely pointing out that the Netherlands, that up-and-coming world hyperpower, is very permissive in regards to drugs and prostitution. They also have a Nanny State where people are rewarded for their failure and their wrecking their health and ability to support themselves by way of drug use and prostitution.
(The LAST nation we need to be emulating right now is the Netherlands. Unless of course we can get great bands such as this or this. But beyond that???)
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
The guy's lack of
July 31, 2008 - 08:16 ET by SchnikeysThe guy's lack of credibility is grounds for me to not take this quote seriously.
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