NewsBusters has learned that presumptive Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama has cancelled plans to visit two U.S. military bases while in Germany, this despite having all kinds of time to speak to gushing Berliners as well as getting in a workout at the Ritz Carlton.
One of the bases, The Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, "is an overseas military hospital operated by the U.S. Army and the Department of Defense...[that] serves as the nearest treatment center for wounded soldiers coming from Iraq and Afghanistan."
Yet, as Ed Morrissey's Hot Air reported a few hours ago, Spiegel Online claimed at 1:42 PM local time (picture courtesy Chicago Tribune):
++ Visit to US Military Bases Cancelled ++
1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. "Barack Obama will not be coming to us," a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. "I don't know why." Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.
According to the Chicago Tribune's Jill Zuckman (emphasis added):
A Republican friend of the Swamp helpfully points out that Sen. Barack Obama seems to have time to visit the gym for a workout today, but not to visit the troops during his stay in Germany tomorrow. [...]
Today, however, Obama, just like George W. Bush in the 2000 election, managed to squeeze in some workout time despite a heavy schedule leading up to his big speech at the Siegessäule, or Victory Column, around 7 p.m. Berlin time.
Even more fascinating, according to Spiegel Online, Obama has decided to extend his stay in Germany -- but still can't find the time to visit American soldiers there:
++ Obama Extends his Berlin Trip ++
4:59 p.m.: Obama seems to like the German capital. He is to stay longer on Friday than he had originally planned, delaying his departure for Paris by two hours to just after noon. According to his team, however, these plans can change at any time.
I'm sure media will report Obama's interesting priorities as they continue to gush and fawn over his "Tour of Duty."
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This is interesting, as it
July 24, 2008 - 13:22 ET by marvlThis is interesting, as it shows Obama's priorities perfectly. It shows him to be completely disconnected from the American Military, and previous incidents and gaffes have shown him, as well, to be ignorant of how the Military works. Yet he aspires to be the Commander of the American Military.
This, to me, is beyond troublesome. It is despicable.
I have a feeling
July 24, 2008 - 13:55 ET by IamTinmanThat Barack wasn't happy with the reception he got from the military in the middle east! I saw one clip where he tried to shake hands with one soldier who, at attention and with eyes front, totally ignored his outstretched hand. The generals may have been more polite, but the intent was the same.
I found it interesting though that the AP report of his speech in Berlin didn't mention the size of the crowd other than "Tens of thousands" when they had predicted as many as a million. Wonder how that'll show on TV tonight. Also much like his Portland speech, the report made no mention of the two Rock groups who performed before BHO walked on stage.
The new democratic campaign strategy seems to be taken from the Roman satirist Juvenal: " Two things only do the people actually desire, bread and circuses."
"The new democratic
July 24, 2008 - 15:29 ET by stratmanGenius. Excellent quote.
Obama and the Military
July 24, 2008 - 23:34 ET by merlin61Got an e-mail today going around the internet
saying that Obama pretty much ignored the
service men in Iraq. His only photos were
photo-ops. God please help us if he is elected.
He hates the military just like the Clintons.
Anti-Obama military email
July 27, 2008 - 18:31 ET by JerWhat was the general wording of the email? I am curious as to whether it might be the one recently making the rounds which was filled with inaccuracies, completely discredited, and withdrawn by its author--with apologies.
Jer
Why would anyone be
July 24, 2008 - 13:23 ET by ConservativeRexWhy would anyone be surprised by his actions? Time and again democrats have shown their disdain for anything that has to do with the military. It would be news if he visited injured soldiers in Germany. The weasel will probably visit them now, since it's been pointed out to him.
In Berkeley the left is continuing their tradition of spitting on Iraq War combat veterans. Expect more of this type of activity, and in places all over America. Well, the only comfort I can get out of any of this is that if elected, Obami will never have the military on his side. We'll see what develops with that.
no, he will go to France
July 24, 2008 - 13:38 ET by wizardjrand make bold statements about how he voted against everything that is leading to victory. The French will demand to vote in our election - "It's only fair."
At least he didn't actually go and spit on the vets in the hospital. He missed a real photo op for his nutroots.
High School
July 24, 2008 - 13:40 ET by cvgbuckeyeThis is a little off subject but Rush has been playing some of Osama's speech in Berlin.
Now you've GOT to listen. I SWEAR THAT IN THIS SPEECH AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER TELEPROMPTER SPEECH THIS GUY MAKES; HE SOUNDS LIKE A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, MAKING A COMMENCEMENT ADDRESS. Lots of haughty words, no substance.
This guy and his meaningless, trivial, idealstic, nonsense-filled rantings wears you out. It's like water dripping on your head kind of torture. The sing-songy, high-pitched droning.
You've got to be kidding me. This guy is going to eventually drive the American public nuts.
Drive America to Marxism
July 24, 2008 - 13:48 ET by ChasvsHe'll do way more than just drive America nuts!
He'll drive America into a Marxist state!
Barak you a$$hole... We don't need your stinkin CHANGE!
I've used this line a few
July 24, 2008 - 13:32 ET by athoughtor2I've used this line a few times today..but it seems to fit...Do as I say not as I do....this makes percfect sense to me....using BHO logic that is...These injured military personnel should never have been in Iraq or Afghanistan in the first place according to BHO...so I do not need to comment or address the situation....
Yep, Obama absolutely
July 24, 2008 - 13:33 ET by CortillaenYep, Obama absolutely supports the troops... except when it gets in the way of his workouts or the adulation of people who should be wholly irrelevant to his candidacy. Meh.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
A fool
July 24, 2008 - 13:37 ET by Amanda JusticeI just listened to parts of the speech on Rush, and I have to say when he invoked Ronald Reagan with "tear down these walls," I wanted to reach through the radio and smack the dog-squeeze out of him. How DARE he invoke the name of such a great man? Obama, Mr. "Citizen of the world," you are not fit to lick Reagan's boots.
If he were alive today, he'd probably kick your a$$. And you better watch out... Ms. Nancy isn't a pushover either.
I listened to all of it too
July 24, 2008 - 13:48 ET by bigtimerI listened to all of it too Amanda....plus Rush when he played it also...
I felt like you also...
Not just there either .... I was infuriated with a lot of his BS
It was I AM Citizen of the World speech....
As far as I am concerned it was one of his worst empty nothings....
Barf-bag time indeed...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Luckily Rush issued a "barf
July 24, 2008 - 15:48 ET by motherbeltLuckily Rush issued a "barf alert" before playing the clips!
The Reagan imitation, and the take off on Kennedy's "I am a Berliner!" line.
He is trying to tell us he is JFK and Reagan rolled into one; only better.
He's got "cheek," that's for sure.
I find it reprehensible that he had no time for US soldiers, because he had to prepare for a speech to foreigners!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Despicable
July 24, 2008 - 13:44 ET by ChasvsThis guy is so despicable it isn't funny.
BHO is nothing but an empty black suit that we can all live without!
Barak yu SOB... We don't need no stinkin Change!
Someone who knows REAL change...
July 24, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Amanda JusticeI saw this in the comments section of one of Jake Tapper's articles. Go to this link and search for the term "Kaelindaria." That's the author of this comment, which is pretty long, so I'm only going to paste a couple of paragraphs here:
Go read it... the author of the comment fled Communist Cuba, so she knows what "change" can bring.
AJ
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything you have."
In 2008 ---
July 24, 2008 - 13:47 ET by mytwocentsIf congress will actually let the military vote in this election, I believe he will come to find out the true meaning of the word 'snub'.
mtc.... I agree...and I
July 24, 2008 - 13:52 ET by bigtimermtc....
I agree...and I hate to say this, but I am glad he isn't going, only because as far as I am concerned it is all phony anyway...just photo-op time for him...the empty suit...is just that....
Empty, hollow, arrogant.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
What a perfect self-centered asshole
July 24, 2008 - 14:08 ET by SickofLibsThe Messiah is like the Perfect Storm. All character flaws coming together in a never before seen calamity. Hubris. Deceit. Inexperience. Self-adulation. Inability to take responsibility even for what comes out of his own mouth. I could go on and on.
But dissing our wounded troops in wartime like this would be death to ANY other candidate, at any other time in history.
The collective patriotic America is not that stupid to not be outraged by this, even libs. Only problem is, most of them won't ever hear about, thanks to you know who.
The debacle that will be an Obama presidency will be laid squarely at the feet of the liberal MSM. Cheers!
You only think that way
July 24, 2008 - 14:14 ET by balboaYou only think that way because you hate the guy. If it had been Bush, you would've understood and been OK with it.
Wrong....we would have said
July 24, 2008 - 14:20 ET by athoughtor2Wrong....we would have said the same thing about Bush. The part is that he has shown contempt for the military before....skips the vote about Gen. Petraus and move on.org....says the surge will be a failure, without regards to the brave men and women going to battle. but he wants to end the Iraq war and bring the troops home...oh sorry bring them to Afghanistan-kudos to Ralph Peters and his article in todays NY Post.
It's about doing the right thing...
July 24, 2008 - 15:06 ET by SickofLibs... which in Obama's case is only if it serves his purpose. The photo-op would have had some dangers attached to it, remote as they may have been.
You can't tell me with a straight face that you think the average American, Dem or Rep, Lib or Con, would be just fine with him blowing off the hospital visit in favor of other activities... like working out?
It's not like he wasn't in the neighborhood.
It's just pointless, IMO,
July 24, 2008 - 15:55 ET by balboaIt's just pointless, IMO, to condemn a guy for something that we have no details as to the conditions of.
Don't you think a photo-op with the troops would have "served his purpose"?
Who knows why he changed his schedule. But I bet ya' if a Republican did it, the circumstances would have been different.
Let's see...He took the
July 24, 2008 - 16:08 ET by athoughtor2Let's see...He took the time to prepare a campaign speech for foreigners...and couldn't find anytine for the troops. they were on his schedule then he cxled the visit....
where are the priorities?
I'm not buying your "we have
July 24, 2008 - 16:21 ET by SickofLibsI'm not buying your "we have no details" argument.
So you're saying it's only logistics that we can't possibly know about?
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, it should have been at least his #3 priority since he said he was going to go. But then he backed out, at the same time extending his stay in Germany. To do what? What was more important?
Re: the photo-op, that would have drawn some allegations of hypocrisy from the usual suspects. Gotta minimize that.
"Hi Mom, yesterday I said I was going to visit you in the hospital since I'm so close, but I got invited to play racquetball, so I'm going to do that instead."
It was a very stupid move that will not go unnoticed by the military and their families.
There are a bazillion
July 24, 2008 - 16:26 ET by balboaThere are a bazillion things we probably aren't privvy too, not just logistics.
No, balboa
July 25, 2008 - 02:53 ET by UnsaneIn 2005 Bush was in Busan for the APEC Conference. Instead of going straight to China afterwards, he swung by Osan AB to visit the troops. I know all about that; I was in the crowd on the base. The fact that he opted to drop in on us and visit was not lost on any of us; I know he damn well could have gone on straight to Beijing. But instead he decided to pay us a visit!
So all of your apologizing for yet another Leftist is falling on deaf ears. It wouldn't have killed him to visit Landstuhl; one phone call could have been made to a protocol office and the ball would have been rolling instantly. I know this and many in the military know this as well.
What is that gaffe worth? As my old man would say when discussing matters military with me at a younger age, "That's a million votes."
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Substitute Bush or McCain
July 25, 2008 - 07:54 ET by Seabeach4348Substitute Bush or McCain for Obama, and those "...bazillion things we are not privy too and the logistics...", would not absolve them. The scum and perverts in the MSM and our own brand of socialists at home would eat them alive!
Except the president and McCain would not in your wildest dreams do something as stupid and selfish as snub the troops for a "workout" or a chance to elevate themselves to the other "citizens of the world" with more lip service.
I hope the little piss-ant stubs his toe during his "workout".
No, bal, he only gets away
July 24, 2008 - 15:52 ET by motherbeltYou only think that way because you hate the guy. If it had been Bush, you would've understood and been OK with it.
No, bal, he gets away with it only because he is the Obama, and in the MSM's eyes he can do no wrong.
Any other candidate or official would have been excoriated by the media for making a tour of military operations and then ignoring those wounded in same.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
I think Balboa has a point:
July 24, 2008 - 17:56 ET by needleA lot of folks at this web site probably really do dislike Obama (“hate” might be better reserved for the things that Obama does, or fails to do); but these sentiments are based upon substance such as those enumerated by athoughor2 above, or hundreds of other items mentioned at this site in the past few months.
It is also interesting that it seems that a good bit of the [often wildly] favorable response of a lot of Obama’s admirers is based on the other side of the same coin; namely, his lack of substance, e.g., his completely vacuous platitudes and ephemeral sentiments. Even the most specific things Obama articulates (specific positions on Iran, campaign financing, etc.) turn out to be completely vacuous and ephemeral as well. Viva Obama!
I think it is fair to say Balboa has indirectly and inadvertently indicated important differences between liberals and conservatives with respect to form/image verses content/substance.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
I think the dislike of Obama
July 24, 2008 - 18:17 ET by balboaI think the dislike of Obama is growing exponentially, though. He hasn't shown a lot of substance so far. So that means anything he does, people here will go ahead and assume the worst.
The more the MSM likes him,
July 24, 2008 - 18:46 ET by JerryThe more the MSM likes him, the more I dislike him. The same would hold true for anyone the MSM blatantly campaigned for.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that anyPresident would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
The problem is Sick,
July 24, 2008 - 16:54 ET by DEVILDOCMOMthe failed media will never report this and the majority of people will never know. OOPS, I just finished your post and see you mentioned this...
In any case, you have made some excellent points I thoroughly agree with, I just hope most Americans wise up, tho' I have my doubts.
SickofLibs,"The debacle
July 24, 2008 - 18:58 ET by the strugglerSickofLibs,"The debacle that will be the Obama presidency will be laid squarely at the feet of the liberal MSM."
Those are the words I was trying to find in an earlier thread.You said it perfect.
For those about to rant,we salute you---the struggler
Dieter: "Now is the time on
July 25, 2008 - 07:47 ET by SickofLibsDieter: "Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance. That's all the time we have, until next time, auf Wiedersehen!"
Just A Feeling
July 24, 2008 - 14:11 ET by GlennI have a feeling that once the word gets out that Barry dissed the troops and people starting hammering his greatness on that fact, Barry will suddenly find time to see the troops......
Glenn, in the future, please
July 24, 2008 - 14:18 ET by MassConservGlenn, in the future, please remember to capitalize His Greatness when using it in reference to Mr. Obama.
;-)
but he'll have to wait until
July 24, 2008 - 14:21 ET by athoughtor2but he'll have to wait until a poll comes out...to see if the left understands and appreicates his dis or if the center is really ticked off at this...
MC, Lest we forget about Osama Bama...
July 24, 2008 - 14:38 ET by goldenthroatIf he is elected, Americans will have to kiss his feet and his ring, too. Why not? The MSM already is!
Someone hand me the pepto, please? I am getting more nauseous by the day reading about this left-wing moron!
"Everything you know is wrong!" - Firesign Theatre (and the MSM)
Pardon me for the
July 24, 2008 - 14:56 ET by mr druidPardon me for the correction, but I think you're slighty off on what the MSM is kissing.
I like "HRH".....His Royal
July 24, 2008 - 16:32 ET by motherbeltI like "HRH".....His Royal Hopeyness
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
You can bet that with the
July 24, 2008 - 18:02 ET by celatorYou can bet that with the light-speed communcations networks the military has around the world, the word of Obama going AWOL from the hospital visits is well known already.
And the reaction ain't pretty.
The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?
Wow!
July 24, 2008 - 14:21 ET by Copperhead RidgeI didn't realize Barry H. was overseas.
Did he enroll in a "Study Abroad" program at a local college? I sure hope he gets his term paper written before the semester is finished.
He cant go
July 24, 2008 - 14:50 ET by HanoverfistThe press might find out he cant heal the sick and injured.
He's a little mixed up
July 25, 2008 - 03:56 ET by Cool ArrowI think his speech in Israel "Mr. Ohlmert! Tear down this wall!" didn't go over too good.
And his salute to the Victory Column in Berlin went a little better. Rather than let on his embarrassing lack of multilingual skills, "Sieg Heil" (Hail Victory) was wildly applauded.
(attempt at humor)
But the're
July 24, 2008 - 14:53 ET by serfer62But the're not his troops...his troops are in Iran, the Taliban & Al Quida
Since we are this close to
July 24, 2008 - 15:58 ET by BuffNBoneSince we are this close to what would have been "H" hour for his visit, it would be interesting to learn what the rules of engagement ROE would have been for his visit to the hospital. I think the patient privacy considerations are the same as in civilian settings, i.e. the patient has some say in the matter.
Typically visiting congressmen/women meet with folks from their districts and senators from their state. Could it be the dearth of troops from the frontlines weren't sufficient for the photo op?
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Homeboy
July 24, 2008 - 16:46 ET by iveseenitallThe homeboy would rather play b-ball than visit our troops. Figures. What? He "loathes" the military? How immature.What he did ( or didn't do) disgraces our nation. God bless our wounded troops. God help us if this immature punk becomes president.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Good points, but
July 25, 2008 - 02:57 ET by UnsaneGood point, buff, but as one who has worked DV visits before, I would imagine that arrangements could have been made for him. The first step would have been a phone call to Protocol. From there Protocol would meet with those who would have to be in the know and to provide support for the visit, as you know, and the ball would be rolling from there.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Beneath contempt
July 24, 2008 - 17:57 ET by tbbaxterThis news infuriates me! Barack Obama should be ASHAMED of himself. His refusal to meet with wounded soldiers yet scheduling time to talk with terrorist factions, not only disqualifies him as president in my opinion, but makes him less than a man!
Woody Allen's character in Annie Hall was right on when he said: "He's a politician! You know the ethics those guys have. They're like a notch underneath child molester."
Why didn't Obama visit the
July 24, 2008 - 19:54 ET by JerWhy didn't Obama visit the injured soldiers?
Hmm....Well, maybe he decided that after visiting, and speaking to, and interacting with so many of our troops in Iraq, including personally visiting with the wounded at the Combat Support Hospital in Baghdad's Green Zone, he said to his staff:
"You know, I had almost forgotten that I actually hate the military, as well as each and every soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine who is part of it; and especially the ones who have been wounded in combat, or otherwise injured while serving their country. So, I just don't want to see any more of them, and I sure as hell don't want to be perceived by the American people as someone who might give a damn about wounded soldiers. I'm Barack Obama. I'm running for President. I've got better things to do."
OR...
It may have had something to do with this, and the fact that while the Iraqi phase of his overseas tour was Congressionally [CODEL] funded, the time spent in Germany was funded by his campaign. Consequently, visiting military hospitals would quite possibly have been in violation of DOD regulations, and would, in any event, have undoubtedly triggered charges that the campaign had used the wounded soldiers as political props.
The second explanation sounds slightly more plausible--but maybe that's just me.
Jer
...maybe that's just me.
July 24, 2008 - 20:34 ET by tbbaxterIt's just you.
What the hell is the legal difference between visiting wounded American soldiers in a foreign land and stopping at a waffle house while on the campaign trail to feed his face? Obama is incapable of transcending politics because he is an invention of the political machine, and he is controlled tightly by them. He could have summoned up some compassion and simply visited those wounded heroes as a self-proclaimed "citizen of the world."
No, your first theory is the correct one.
Well, tbb...I conceded that
July 24, 2008 - 22:13 ET by JerWell, tbb...I conceded that it might be me. But on the other hand, I did at least link an article [did you bother to read it?] referencing the DOD regs and then explain how they rendered the proposed military hospital visit by Obama at best problematic.
Perhaps you could supply me with a reference to the Waffle House corporate directive similarly impacting a candidate's desire for hash browns...scattered, smothered and covered.
Jer
Problematic, perhaps, but not impossible...
July 25, 2008 - 00:52 ET by tbbaxterJer,
I did read the article, and I site the following paragraphs* as proof that Obama could have visited the wounded soldiers in his capacity as a senator or with prior permission from the DOD.
Since his original purpose, I assume, was humanitarian, then he obviously was not campaigning. If, on the other hand, his intent was to take the media along and ask a soldier with his leg blown off for his vote in November, then there is nothing human about him and shows him for what he truly is.
My God, Obama is Clinton all over again.
*Candidates for office have long been prohibited from engaging in political activities at U.S. military installations or using U.S. military personnel in their political appearances. Presidential campaign staffs generally are very familiar with these military rules.
The stops were part of McCain's "Service to America" tour, which kicked off on Monday and were approved by the Pentagon office of general counsel
With Department of Defense rules prohibiting political campaigning on military bases, it was determined that in some cases McCain could visit the installations as a senator but could not engage in any political activity or have news media present.
For Jer
July 25, 2008 - 03:00 ET by UnsaneJer, that is BS. As I have already stated two times, he, as a sitting Senator, merely needed to make a phone call to a protocol office to see what could have been done.
I have worked these things enough to know this.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
For Unsane...
July 25, 2008 - 03:39 ET by JerI have no doubt the visit could have taken place with a phone call or two. I also have no doubt that Limbaugh/Hannity nation would have ginned up the issue into a major controversy by pointing to the proscriptive DOD provisions, and claiming that Obama was using our wounded warrriors as his own cheap political props.
After all, as someone up the thread charges: "Those aren't Obama's troops. His troops are the Taliban and Al Qaeda." Very classy. I wonder if the troops in Iraq who were pictured wildly cheering him feel the same.
Jer
→ Jer
July 25, 2008 - 03:43 ET by Cool ArrowUndoubtedly the cheering troops was a clip from a Toby Keith visit.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Cool... Gotta love
July 25, 2008 - 03:55 ET by JerCool...
Gotta love Photoshop.
Jer
Speaking of Photoshop
July 25, 2008 - 03:59 ET by Cool ArrowWhere's Tennyson?
"Anchors in Tank" was hilarious.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Did I miss something during
July 25, 2008 - 04:07 ET by JerDid I miss something during my hiatus?
Jer
↑ Jer
July 26, 2008 - 07:32 ET by Cool ArrowCheck it out.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Still ever the apologist
July 26, 2008 - 07:27 ET by UnsaneJer, even if he checked the photographers at the door - and having seen enough of these things, a PA troop/Airman with a camera would have taken a picture or two for the base paper if only because they would know cold what they could and could not do - he still could have walked in and said "Hi".
Does it shock you that the troops were gracious and welcoming of Obama in Iraq? It shouldn't.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Apologist? If positing a
July 26, 2008 - 14:46 ET by JerApologist? If positing a plausible explanation which seems to be comport with the facts renders one an "apologist", then I plead guilty.
Was I shocked "that the troops were gracious and welcoming of Obama in Iraq?" No, not shocked, but certainly gratified by the level of enthusiam (purportedly) exhibited by the troops greeting Obama.
Jer
Answer me one question
July 26, 2008 - 23:50 ET by UnsaneIn that case, what say you about the first paragraph? You know, the one where he could have stuck his head in the door and said "Hi" to the troops, sans photographer.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Unsane...
July 27, 2008 - 00:12 ET by JerIn that case, what say you about the first paragraph? You know, the one where he could have stuck his head in the door and said "Hi" to the troops, sans photographer
I will concede this, Unsane: If I were Obama, I would have done exactly that. And if I were one of his top advisors, I would have recommended the same.
But I also reject the accusation that the motivation was anti-military, or that his action was intended to be a slap at the troops.
Jer
Perception
July 27, 2008 - 02:39 ET by UnsaneBut I also reject the accusation that the motivation was anti-military, or that his action was intended to be a slap at the troops. But guess what? Even if you ARE right...the perception is that he at best is simply too good for the military. His track record also is not encouraging in this regard.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
And that perception is
July 27, 2008 - 03:43 ET by JerAnd that perception is precisely why I would have urged him to go forward with the visit--even if it might be a "technical" breach of regs.
Jer
Obama shoots hoops...ignores troops?
July 27, 2008 - 05:27 ET by JerApparently, the McCain people have wasted no time in airing a commercial attacking Obama's heartless "snub" of our wounded troops, complete with footage of the military-hating candidate shooting hoops (instead of visiting the base hospital in Germany).
Unfortunately, the geniuses who produced the ad failed to realize that the clip did indeed show Obama playing basketball...WITH U.S. TROOPS IN KUWAIT ON HIS RECENT TRIP! I'm sure after the media clowns responsible for the blunder are canned, the commercial will undergo some strategic "re-editing".
Jer
Haven't seen it Jer
July 27, 2008 - 05:32 ET by Cool ArrowIs it a 527, or is it followed by "I'm John McCain and I approve this message"?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Cool...I'm faily sure it's a
July 27, 2008 - 05:54 ET by JerCool...I'm faily sure it's a McCain ad. (I'll check again after I post this)
Some ads have the "going to the gym" segment edited out. This one includes it.
Jer
Cool: Remember my earlier post about my text and formatting problems. Well, I'm still having them. I guess I can't link anything either. I'll try to get this fixed.
I'm still unable to link
July 27, 2008 - 06:28 ET by JerI'm still unable to link it. As I said, I saw one ad which made no mention of Obama "going to the gym" and had no visuals of his doing so, and another in which it was included.
So, here is my take: They either realized it was a mistake and edited the scene out, or they knew what they were doing and left it in to make the point that one [the basketball setting] was an event where there were cameras, and the other [hospital visit] was "cameras prohibited" and therefore of no interest to the Obama people.
So stay tuned. I'm sure there will be a flurry of explanations.
Jer
Bal
July 27, 2008 - 07:46 ET bySo, here is my take: They either realized it was a mistake and edited the scene out, or they knew what they were doing and left it in to make the point that one [the basketball setting] was an event where there were cameras, and the other [hospital visit] was "cameras prohibited" and therefore of no interest to the Obama people.
are you trying to tell us Obama merely used the troops for photo ops? Thanks for reporting this
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
botg: I assume you
July 27, 2008 - 17:46 ET by Jerbotg: I assume you intended to address me and not bal [but I guess we're interchangeable. You know us...we're CRAAAZY! :-) ]
Am I trying to tell you Obama used the troops for photo ops? No, I'm trying to tell you that is what the MCCAIN people are trying to tell you.
By the way, the ad I referred to which seemed to have been edited may have merely been a very similar prior ad which was then modified into the current one which incorporates the "basketball" scene.
Jer
You wish Jer
July 27, 2008 - 17:52 ET by Free Stinkerme and not bal [but I guess we're interchangeable.
I know Bal. Bal is on my Buddy List. You are no Bal.
For starters, Bal doesn't echo talking points like some some people I could mention.
Free Stinker... If you
July 27, 2008 - 18:17 ET by JerFree Stinker... If you really knew bal, you would realize the "interchangeability" and "we're Craaazy" references are part of a long-running gag which bal and botg started, and I have mentioned on occasion--thus, the reason for the smiley-face emoticon at the end of the statement.
So, why don't you take your insults and your silly scorecard and spend a few hours formulating an honest-to-goodness substantive comment--instead of your usual vacuous inanities.
Jer
Jer
July 27, 2008 - 18:31 ET by MrShyJer, don't take it to heart that you're not on FS's buddy list. You're not missing out on much. :p
Yes, amazingly, not all of us right-side NB'ers get along, which is a healthy thing, I'd imagine.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
MrShy...there are many
July 27, 2008 - 18:38 ET by JerMrShy...there are many things in this world which bother me, but, rest assured..."not making FS's buddy list" isn't one of them.
Jer
Jer
July 27, 2008 - 19:05 ET by Free Stinkerwhy don't you take your insults and your silly scorecard and spend a
few hours formulating an honest-to-goodness substantive comment
LOL! Keep pointing that unloaded gun at me.
Bahh, Wounded Schmounded
July 25, 2008 - 00:31 ET by SquonkamaticThis was a telling decision that is right in step with the Obamarama voter drive based on intimidation. That is, there's no reason to visit these constituents of his because his display of mock statesmanship in Berlin should be convincing enough to any rational person to compell them to vote for Obama. The message that is growing is that if you don't plan to vote for Obama you're a racist, backwards thinking jerkoff who doesn't want to get along with the rest of the world. It's almost like a middle school lunchroom philosophy: All of the cool, popular kids want to sit at Obama's table, and everybody else is just some sort of a loser. Therefore Obama can assume that EVERYONE wants to sit at his table, and instead of appealing to people who will actually be deciding whether or not to vote for him the emphasis is on enhancing his coolness factor. The Berlin speech was made to a throng of people who won't even be voting for him but it was far more important that bringing comfort & recognition to wounded soldiers who may be considering voting for him, and the message is that he assumes they will be anyway.
It also echoes the liberal mantra that active duty members of our armed forces shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway, so why bother recognizing them at all? They are just a bunch of grunts who had to join up because, as John Kerry helpfully pointed out, their grades weren't good enough so they got stuck in Iraq. They certainly wouldn't be welcome at the elite country clubs and social circles that Obama is dependent on for vital support like campaign contributions, which is the only thing that really motivates liberal democrats. They certainly could give a rat's ass what our men & women in uniform really think until they want to exploit things like pictures of their flag draped coffins or make hay about their post-service financial hardships. The sad part of it is that many servicepeople do indeed support Obama and would have been honored to have had him pay a visit to the wards where they are recouperating from the combat wounds recieved ensuring Obama's freedom to travel the world and suck up to people who DON'T support our military's fighting for their freedoms as well.
And of course, since Obama claims to not support the war, what does he care about a bunch of jar heads who caught lead in it's prosecution? "Wounded schmounded, big deal." Let them suck eggs, he has fawning Germans stoned from a reggea concert waiting to cheer him. The guy is a complete fraud and I dearly hope that the backlash against this free summer getaway trip begins soon and is bitter. Obama is a single term senator from Illinois who spent a grand total of 142 days working for the country he now has the nerve to pretend to be qualified to lead -- one good probing question from a wounded soldier could have brought that fact to the surface, so he sort of had to skip the meeting and go play raquetball.
Obama - 'SchmO'bama
July 25, 2008 - 01:41 ET by BondPlainBondAttempting to grasp the irrationality, delusions, and delusions of grandeur Obama exhibits on a daily basis, we have come to understand that American soldiers, especially wounded American soldiers, to Obama's thinking are inconsequential, ill-educated nothings.
Obama has said, firmly, Americans and American soldiers weren't even responsible for the success of the surge. Obama gives all credit for that great display of power, might, and military intelligence to Muqtada al-Sadr.
What is this inexplicable affinity Obama has demonstrated, on so many occasions, for the bad guys?
Obama is constantly receiving very bad advice from his campaign managers who haven't the slightest idea of what protocol entails - let alone how to handle protocol. Since Obama is deliberately surrounding himself with idiots per usual (Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, Mrs Obama), people he sees as intelligent, if Obama is elected...
Good grief.