give him an excuse. They will think of something. Only time will tell.

Sure as we are sitting in Florida the MSM and the anti war crowd will find a way to turn it all around to SOBama's advantage!

What I can't figure is why would SOBama say he'll listen to his generals and still order a pull out.

Why listen to them at all?

Happy 4 July 

"...the Times editorial Friday, a flip-flop on this issue could be the
death knell for the almost indecent love affair press members have had..."

Rubbish.

There are only two horses in this race, and Flippy Hussein is not going to lose the left.  Oh, they'll whine and wheedle and wet themselves, but in the end?  They'll do what we are going to do.

Hold their noses and pull the lever.

From the barry homepage:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFactSheet.pdf

He's been against the war from the beginning - wonder what has changed? (being a young guy, he just might be "learning", right??    naaaaa!)

And even the AP has questions - that is surprising, very.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

They will be upset for a while Noel, but after he picks Hillary Clinton as his running mate, the Democrats should be fully untited by convention time.

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

"I've always said that the pace of withdrawal will be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability."

I think he's quoting George Bush verbatim.

Do you really think the O will pick the C for VP?

I can't see it but then that is just me.

I was thinking maybe the media will give C an opening for a comback at the convention if he continues taking off his clothes?

Of course the liberal media will not turn on Obama! They know full well he must disguise his radical extreme leftist Socialist Communist roots and appear as a centralist for the general election.

The good thing about it (if there is one)is Obama is such a blatantly bad candidate that more people will notice how biased MSM coverage is.

If Obama flip flops on Iraq once (God forbid) he gets in the White House, any victory there will be attributed to his "leadership".  They'll just say he went in and fixed everything that the "evil Bush regime" broke.  Of course that probably won't be the case as the jihadis will most certainly step up the carnage right around the election to help ensure their chosen candidate Obama wins.  The bottom line is that the media will never turn on any democrat, unless said democrat is slightly to the right of the rest of his party and embroiled in some kind of controversy.  Then they'll label said democrat as a conservative and make sure to leave the "D" out of any of their stories.  Remember how they kept calling Gary Condit a conservative?

If Obama Flips on the War, the MSM may declare "Victory in Iraq" and start covering the War Again, so they can "cover" for Obama's Flip.  

After all, if it's Obvious the World's Best military has pretty much Fixed the Terrorist problem in Iraq, Obama would look Stupid (more stupid) if he continued to Support his Previous "PULL OUT NOW" position.

I doubt this will happen, but Obama HAS to do something to offset McCain's obvious Advantage, McCain supported a WINNING strategy, the SURGE....Obama Supported a LOSE in Iraq strategy, Bush Bashing, and the Pull out now mantra along with the MSM....Obama is on the Wrong side of the Street on this one.

The MSM has a Huge problem as to how much longer they can IGNORE IRAQ...Even the Europeans are Reporting the GOOD News.

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

In his most recent comments, Obama has been mentioning that his plan calls for the removal of "Combat Troops" and "Combat Brigades" from Iraq at the rate of one per month based on the JCS advice.  He does this because the liberals, in their misunderstanding of strategy/tactics/ and even history do not grasp the fact that "Reduced Combat troops (ie Combat Arms units) will actually INCREASE US casualties.

I, of course, am not a member of the JCS but can already guess what the advice from that body will be. 

It is axiomatic in the US military that simply sitting in a patrol base without heavy patrolling of your surrounding area looking for the enemy is folly to your side.  While it sounds good to the un-schooled in tactics US left, virtually every war we have faought in since the sevral French and Indian wars confirms this fact.

The combat brigades in country now over the past two years+ have seized the initiative and are largely dominating their battlespace.  They do this by frequently patrolling their areas of operation and working with the public in these areas on a daily basis.  By working with the public, they gather intelligence which leads to raiding, which leads to captures and killing of terrorist cells, which leads to victory even if on a small and sometimes temporary scale.

They are also now working with the new local Iraqi forces as they are generated and formed and setting the example for them to follow. 

By removal of these forces before the Iraqi forces have adequately stood-up/gelled will surrender the initiative to the terrorists and over the several months that a US force leaves the situation will worsen locally.

THis will take several forms.  Fewer patrols through the neighborhoods by Iraqi forces who will not have confidence in their own abilities, the murdering of Iraqi troops families to further lessen their desire to operate.  And then outright seizure of control of an area.

With no US presence, and limited action by the Iraqi forces, the terrorists will turn to more agressive action against hose US "Non-combat" forces that Obama has insinuated will be left in country and casualties amongst them will rise.

I cannot imagine the JCS therefore recommending this course of action.