Since Eisenhower first ran for president in 1952, it has been a common strategy for Democrats and media members -- as if there's much of a difference these days! -- to depict Republican presidential candidates as too stupid to hold the office.
On Thursday, CNN's Jeanne Moos made the case that because John McCain is not computer savvy, he's not qualified to be president. She even disgracefully quipped -- as a video of a stripper appeared on the screen! -- "At least John McCain knows the difference between a laptop and a lap dance."
Not surprisingly, she also took the time to demonstrate just how much of a techie Barack Obama is while adding a dash of Bush-bash. Pretty good for a two and a half minute segment, dontcha think?
Sick-making transcript follows, video available here, h/t NBer Jeff Eldred:
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We don't expect the president to be the Liberace of the keyboard. But still --
Should the next president of the United States know how to work a computer?
UNIDENTIFIED BOY: I mean, yes, I guess so. It would be helpful. Why not?
MOOS: Ask John McCain. Here's how he describes his computer skills.
MCCAIN: I am an illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all of the assistance that I can get.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, that's absolutely ridiculous.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's 21st century, and you should know how to do it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's got people to do that. He's got to be thinking of more important things.
MOOS: While Cindy McCain has been spotted scrolling her BlackBerry, John McCain tends to be handed a BlackBerry to talk on. Barack Obama, on the other hand, is one of those guys so intent on reading his BlackBerry that he could run into something.
He is a BlackBerry fiend says his spokesperson. Has a laptop on the road and sometimes uses it to talk to his daughters and surfs the Web when he is in need of important information such as sports scores.
A far cry from this guy.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I hear there's rumors on the Internets.
One of the things I've used on the Google --
MOOS: Just the other day, President Bush did it again.
BUSH: They can go on their computers and dial up volunteer.org.
MOOS: At least John McCain isn't still dialing up. And he knows to leave off the "the".
MCCAIN: I guess you could do on Google.
MOOS: But McCain's admission that he is computer illiterate was fodder for debate with something called the Personal Democracy Forum. The online expert who had worked for John Edwards got into it with the Internet expert from the McCain campaign.
MARK SOOHOO, MCCAIN DEPUTY INTERNET DIRECTOR: You don't necessarily have to use a computer to understand how it shapes the country. And I think he has.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's just the point, though. You do.
MOOS: But when McCain's guy said this --
SOOHOO: John McCain is aware of the Internet.
MOOS: John McCain is aware of the Internet became a joke on the Internet.
(on camera): But do we really want a president who sits around the oval office googling all day? This 74-year-old likes to Google.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, this is such an easy thing to learn. I taught myself how to use the computer.
MOOS (voice-over): At least John McCain...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Taking laptop computers --
MOOS: ...knows the difference between a laptop and a lap dance, even if jokesters made a mock of McCain's real Web site with how does this thing work and should I double click here?
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
Nice reporting, Jeanne. You're a real pro.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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Reminds me of a high school girls blog.
June 26, 2008 - 10:45 ET by c5thenAlways denigrating and putting down people without your own set of skills.
Hey, Jeanne Moose, how about you try your hand at be a POW and being tortured for 5 years and see if you can do it?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
it's the bully mentality of
June 26, 2008 - 12:41 ET by TruthMongerit's the bully mentality of the left
mean people suck
hate is not a family value
i guess the poor are too stupid to get jobs then? is that the new Democrat strategy:)?
Experts
June 26, 2008 - 13:38 ET by KC MulvilleLet's see. Which computer experts did this hack go to? Elementary school kids, shoppers, and John Edwards' computer advisor. That's about right. And all of them believe that you need to use a computer to be president.
I work with computers, running some very sophisticated programs. Does that make me qualified to be president? Hell, no. By the way, remember that presidents are told, for security reasons, not to use emails. That's all we need -- for the president's machine to get hacked. And based on my experience, there are thousands of very smart high school kids already hacking at Obama, as we speak.
She's a hack. Doesn't surprise me that she quoted Linda Douglass, the former "journalist" who simply joined the Obama camp. Will Moos be far behind, and was this her audition?
are you black? you can be
June 26, 2008 - 13:50 ET by TruthMongerare you black?
you can be president:)
Should the next
June 26, 2008 - 10:52 ET by red_dragon311Should the next president of the United States know _____
mmmmmmm lets see
....how many states are in the counrty he wants to run?
....what city he is talking in?
....that you put your hand over your heart during the Pledge?
....that his pastor is saying racist things from the pulpit
....that he is doing shady business with a shady person in a land deal
....that one of his best friends was a terrorist and he had no idea
but if you point his out you'er a racist
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
Yeah, what we really need
June 26, 2008 - 10:59 ET by motherbeltYeah, what we really need is a President who is so wrapped up in his Blackberry that he's in danger of walking into things.
Can you imagine if that had been George Bush?
He is a BlackBerry fiend says his spokesperson. Has a laptop on the
road and sometimes uses it to talk to his daughters and surfs the Web
when he is in need of important information such as sports scores. [Sports scores????]
A far cry from this guy. [President Bush]
which of course means that it's a great thing to be "a far cry from this guy."
What really matters to these folks is not necessarily the being "tech-savvy" thing as much as being tech-savvy is what it takes to be "cool."
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Huh "Can you imagine if
June 26, 2008 - 11:00 ET by Dan The Man 2Huh "Can you imagine if that had been George Bush", I thought it was GWB. I want my President to know who to goto and who has what knowlege and skills. I want my President to be a President not a secretary. It wasn't too many years ago that the boss wrote the letters for the secretaries to type up, they did not have to know how to type or even write speches they had to know how to manage and make decisions .... the right decisions.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Where's the casket?
June 26, 2008 - 11:01 ET by jpatchBy duty, I must point out the obvious...this bit of "reporting" is actually closer to being slander than anything else - throwing the stripper in there is deliberate. It's so deliberate that it hits you over the head like a sledgehammer of bias. They're actually going out of there way to create mini-segments of McCain bashing and Obama supporting, complete with props and extras.
And they deliberately go after his age. This is going to start getting uglier and uglier. Considering that it's not even July yet, I can't even imagine how horrible things are going to be by October and November.
Who wants to bet that come halloween, we see an image in the MSM of John McCain in a casket, a la dracula? Perhaps bill maher or keith olbermann will have the genius and audacity to mock and insult John McCain - such courage to go after a 74-year old veteran who's been in congress since 1982. By the way...
I just went out for a paper and a sandwich, and some idiot on his blackberry just plowed right into me on the sidewalk. He wasn't even watching where he was going, he runs into ME, and then, when I express my displeasure for his uncivilized behavior, he starts cursing at me and saying something about me being a "typical white person that is afraid of black people walking down the street." Then he mumbled something about the "unification of the 57 states" as he rapidly strode away, with his head buried back down in his blackberry. What a racist p.o.s.
OMG...I think I just met Barack Obama!!
MORE WISDOM FROM CABLE TV'S MOST HIDEOUS "REPORTER"
June 26, 2008 - 11:02 ET by SgthulkaI have to turn away when she comes on.
I ditched the Blackberry
June 26, 2008 - 11:02 ET by Free ThinkerI ditched the Blackberry three years ago and would never go back. It is too distracting. I think I would rather have a President that takes the time to think critically and has the ability to focus instead of worrying about what e-mail he just received. I also think the President has an able staff to get him a sports score if he really needs it.
Ya think?
June 26, 2008 - 23:22 ET by Scout FinchI also think the President has an able staff to get him a sports score if he really needs it.
I want my president to have his trigger finger firmly where it belongs. NOT on his mouse clicker or blackberry. I love surfing the 'net and being tech savvy about obtaining news and information. But I would hope that the president has a closer connection to the daily news, and has a professional staff that can bring the news to his attention any time of day. Priorities, Dems.
disgusting fake news from a
June 26, 2008 - 11:03 ET by pepsiman127disgusting fake news from a disgusting fake reporter... can the bias at that network get any clearer than this trash ?
Sickening it is....
June 26, 2008 - 11:06 ET by MrltavernWhat someone ought to tell Ms. MOOS is a very good percentage of people who are heads of corporations, executives of movie studios and talent agencies and some highups in the food chain of the news business DO NOT use computers.
That's what an assistant is for. Perhaps Ms. Moos hasn't reached that plateau yet.
This is such a cheap shot it makes me sick.
Just one more thing....
June 26, 2008 - 11:08 ET by MrltavernIt's good to know that he doesn't know how to use a computer. We'll have one less politician in Washington who won't be on CraigsList looking for whores.
:)
the Buffett factor
June 26, 2008 - 11:15 ET by mom_roxI wonder what Tracy Russo, the John Edwards staffer, (referred above as the unidentified female) thinks of Warren Buffett's qualifications. Buffett, an Obama supporter, does not use a computer, and by all accounts, has been quite successful.
Does this mean that I can no longer refer to my husband's blackberry as his crackberry?
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
Does this mean that I can
June 26, 2008 - 11:49 ET by motherbeltDoes this mean that I can no longer refer to my husband's blackberry as his crackberry?
Really.
How about a segment on whether being addicted to a Blackberry is such a great thing?
He's a Blackberry fiend.
Anyone remember the type of people who used to be referred to as "coke fiends"?
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Amazing
June 26, 2008 - 11:12 ET by kd5463The media doesn't even try to hide their complete bias in this election at all. The whole thing was just a blatent hit piece that means nothing. OOO, some 8 year olds on the street think he should use computers a lot, like that matters at all. I love how Bush saying that someone should "dial up" a website shows he doesn't know anything when we all know that many people use that phrase when refferring to looking up information. These people aren't even any good at their propaganda, don't they know it is supposed to be a littl more subtle?
dial up, log on
June 26, 2008 - 11:26 ET by SickofLibsright you are
IMO 'dial up' is no dumber than 'log on to our website', an archaic term we can't seem to get rid of.
Agreed.
June 26, 2008 - 12:13 ET by motherbeltAgreed.
What is he supposed to say: DSL up? Cable up? FIOS up?
"Dial up" is just a quick way of saying enter the proper information to access a website.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Ever since they feel they
June 26, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Chris NormanEver since they feel they did a "gotcha!" on George Bush and the grocery checkout bar code scanners in 1992, the media keeps trying to do the same kind of thing in every election - casting the GOP candidate as out of touch with the "average voter". One thing about the media - if they think an underhanded tactic works - they keep trying it.
"computer illiterate" is
June 26, 2008 - 11:28 ET by SickofLibs"computer illiterate" is a self-deprecating description I have heard many, many people use in business. It generally means "Yes, of course I use a computer, but I am not a code monkey, programmer, or network specialist. I just use basic programs like email, word processing and browsers".
Now, naturally when McCain uses this term, he is open season to hacks like Moos. (very apropo name, too, if you watched the clip). Does anyone with a brain stem actually believe a US Senator could function without using a computer on a regular basis?
But Obama is a blackberry fiend, which is admirable. Show me just ONE person with a blackberry that is NOT a blackberry fiend. I dare you.
And where the hell did the lapdance v. laptop thing come from? Did I miss a McCain/go-go bar story? Or was that just for additional color?
I hereby nominate Moos' transparent little attack piece for a MRC Notable Quotable Award.
"But Obama is a blackberry
June 26, 2008 - 11:43 ET by voodoodaddy"But Obama is a blackberry fiend, which is admirable. Show me just ONE person with a blackberry that is NOT a blackberry fiend. I dare you."
Umm, I am. I hate the thing.
"Yes, of course I use a
June 26, 2008 - 12:11 ET by motherbeltWhy is "computer illiterate" supposed to be a bad thing?
Moos presumably drives a car. Does she know how the fuel injection works? The difference between AWD and 4WD? How anti-lock brakes operate? Or does she just keep gas in it, turn the key, and go?
And where the hell did the lapdance v. laptop thing come from? Did I
miss a McCain/go-go bar story? Or was that just for additional color?
Just one more dig....I can't believe she threw that in there.
Well she got the words lapdance and John McCain together....
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
bush = jet pilot mccain =
June 26, 2008 - 11:34 ET by seaniepbush = jet pilot
mccain = jet pilot
obama = blackberry user, therefor smarter
Don't say that too
June 26, 2008 - 11:39 ET by red_dragon311Don't say that too loud though
John Travolta = Jet pilot
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
this is true . . .
June 26, 2008 - 12:20 ET by seaniepthis is true . . .
GWB, MBA
June 26, 2008 - 15:49 ET by nkviking75But GWB also holds an MBA from Harvard. The MSM doesn't mention that much.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Okay, In descending order
June 27, 2008 - 01:27 ET by stratmanOkay,
In descending order of intelligence and grit to pilot:
1. John McCain = Combat Fighter Jet Pilot
2. George W. Bush = Noncombat Fighter Jet Pilot
5. John Travolta = Anti-Global Warming Heavy Pilot
627. Obama = Crackberry Commode Pilot
RRAM Tough!
Stripper knowledge
June 26, 2008 - 11:59 ET by AndersonAfter watching the video it occured to me that we should inform Moos that she doesn't know the difference between a lap dance and a pole dance. Google that, Moos!
So let's see....
June 26, 2008 - 12:00 ET by winston smithMcCain: Navy pilot, POW, experienced senator, will continue the WoT, keep America safe, and lower taxes.
Obama: inexperienced senator, makes regular use of his Blackberry.
Thanks for nailing it down for me, Jeanne Moos. Now my mind is made up, McCain is the clear choice for President.
What about jets
June 26, 2008 - 12:31 ET by SPCOlympicsSome one should put this idiot in the cockpit of an A-4 Skyhawk. Ask her "How do you start the engine?" Then drop all the printed material on her lap that McCain had to know to fly. Record the confused look on her face.
Ask her if knowing how to use a Blackberry is really a good metric for measuring the technical savvy of a Presidential candidate.
What a tool.
Exactly.
June 26, 2008 - 14:25 ET by ThalpyExactly. While they all seem to have their moments, the msm would not fare well in a vacuous test. All of this is simply using computer competency as a tool to make fun of McCain by this reporter. What is the lesson in all of this? Most young people have great skill text messaging their friends as they race towards the red light, or they can conduct incessant cell phone conversations. So what?
Oh, for goodness' sake!
June 26, 2008 - 12:46 ET by Damian GOh, for goodness' sake! Moos' reports are never supposed to be serious; they're just silly fun! Sure, they're corny, but they're not malicious.
I'm a McCain supporter, but even I think this is a total overreaction. Moos makes fun of both sides; it was our turn in the cross-hairs.
That might be true if "our
June 26, 2008 - 16:12 ET by Chris NormanThat might be true if "our turn in the cross hairs" wasn't 24/7/365...
Exactly Chris... ...plus
June 26, 2008 - 16:19 ET by bigtimerExactly Chris...
...plus I do not recall a Moos report anything like this candied propaganda...against any democrat...espcially one runnig for Prez.
Think we would ever see/hear anything like this against their messiah on CNN..you know, heck I was just being light-hearted and joking about Obama...yeah right, when pigs fly.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
bt, It still floors me,
June 26, 2008 - 17:43 ET by Chris Normanbt,
It still floors me, that after all the MRC and NewsBuster documentation of liberal bias, agenda driven coverage, and out and out misrepresentation in the media, there are still "easy goin' " people here who advise up to "lighten up" and look at these occurences on a case by case basis, as if each and every example can be attributed to reasonable and unrelated causes. Shades of Bal. If these people were cops, they would've treated the serial murders of Jeffrey Dahmer as unrelated crimes. Clueless or disingenuous - one.
Chris... You're dead on
June 26, 2008 - 18:07 ET by bigtimerChris...
You're dead on with your post.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
I'm no McCainiac, but at
June 26, 2008 - 13:03 ET by mattmI'm no McCainiac, but at least he knows there aren't 57 or 58 states.
you really don't understand
June 26, 2008 - 13:08 ET by TruthMongeryou really don't understand what appeals to so many young moderates and lefties do you?
A typical answer to your question would be:
does anyone really care how many states there are? I don't know how many there are - do you guys? NO
does McCain look as cute as Obama? NO
is he, like, popular? NO
is he totally way old? DUH
is McCain exactly the same as like that idiot Bush? that's what they say on MTV...
OK, TM....back away from
June 26, 2008 - 13:12 ET by bassndudeOK, TM....back away from the remote! Now, no more MTV!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Funny matt! And McCain
June 26, 2008 - 13:11 ET by Jack BauerFunny matt!
And McCain probably also knows people with asthma don't need uh.. um ... "breathalyzers" and errrm, "inhalators." Little memory loss there Barack?
Sure, and as if the middle-aged, 48 year old Obama even uses a PC himself.
Doncha ya love Politicians?
They think 48 is young. And a trillion dollars in tax spending is small change.
Great... awesome. So Obama
June 26, 2008 - 13:14 ET by MassConservGreat... awesome. So Obama knows how to surf the web and McCain supposedly doesn't.
Now we have the answer to the question of where BHO would be when The Phone rings at three a.m. -- Surfing in the War Room.
A VP
June 26, 2008 - 13:52 ET by oregon_jiimA VP for a large corporation is doing some work at his desk when his top assistant enters his office.
TOP ASST: Boss, you need to get one of these Blackberries
VP: What do I need a Blackberry for
TOP ASST: Well, you can do research on the internet, schedule you appointments, keep track of your contacts...You can even get the latest news and sports scores.
VP: Isn't that what I pay you to do?
We have a term for all of the posers in our office who spend most of the time trying to look important/popular by texting on their blackberries all day instead of doing something productive. We call these posers Dingleberries. Barak Obama=dingleberry
"an endorsement of communism is an endorsement of slavery"
By contrasting McCain to
June 26, 2008 - 15:44 ET by soulpileBy contrasting McCain to Obama with this useless garbage, they're just making me like McCain.
I'm computer literate, but I'm not so elitist that I think being computer savvy makes you a better president. Besides, that quote about Obama using his Blackberry so much he might walk into stuff? What? He can't walk and text at the same time? That's soooo awful.
I don't need or want a trendy president. I want a tough president who can get the job done without being caught up in what's cool (or is it hot? I don't keep up with my generation's slang anymore).
Moos has always been a
June 26, 2008 - 15:54 ET by bigtimerMoos has always been a worthless waste of time on CNN...she at least is washing her hair now and then I have noticed lately...hasn't helped what's inside of that empty air space underneath.
Nothing like propaganda/agenda...after-all, it's CNN.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
CANDY-GRAM FOR MONGO!
June 26, 2008 - 15:58 ET by sam.i.amOK, she may have a point!!
I just received an EMERGENCY TELEGRAM in the mail from the John McCain Campaign.
An EMERGENCY TELEGRAM!! fits right into the narrative of McCain being an old, tired, computer-illiterate, drooling dinosaur from the 20th century.
McCain doesn't need this kind of help.
From a liberal's
June 26, 2008 - 17:27 ET by JerryFrom a liberal's perspective, it is absolutely imperative that a President knows how to use a computer. Without Google and Wikipedia, how else would Obama find out who the visiting foreign dignitaries are?
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
If Obama used a computer to
June 26, 2008 - 17:34 ET by Clear thinkerIf Obama used a computer to find out we had 57 states, then I say McCain is the smarter of the two.
About a year ago my granddaughter was telling one of her friends that the Internet is the greatest source of info you will ever find. I just had to interrupt and add... "yes, but you have to be careful because a lot of that info is wrong!"
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
CT --correct info--
June 26, 2008 - 18:06 ET by misterbillThat is good advice. I am the only one I know who has a 90% accur--well 80%, accur, OK, maybe not quite that high. OK, OK, I get a few things right. Don't I?????
Mr. Bill...
June 26, 2008 - 20:19 ET by Clear thinkerHow about we say you are 80% correct 40% of the time? But don't take my word for it, I'm only correct 10% of the time.
;-)
BTW... I'm glad you decided to come back and post here!
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Isn't that what aides and
June 26, 2008 - 18:26 ET by soulpileIsn't that what aides and assistants are for? Research?
Hey Noel...I think this was
June 26, 2008 - 17:50 ET by bigtimerHey Noel...I think this was the blog of yours Rush was talking about today on his show...I only caught the end of what he was saying but I did hear Noel Sheppard on NewsBusters today...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
BT
June 26, 2008 - 19:14 ET by Noel SheppardBT,
Yep. Near the beginning of the second hour. Always a thrill. ns
Noel... Heck, I get
June 26, 2008 - 19:23 ET by bigtimerNoel...
Heck, I get thrilled when I hear NBs mentioned and the different writers/bloggers ect...
So I bet the thrill for you and yours has to be ten-fold.
Good work.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Isn't it the truth!
June 26, 2008 - 23:11 ET by DEVILDOCMOMEven tho' I do not have anything to do with the topics or the writing of the main subject matter, I always feel a thrill (no, not anything to do with my legs) when I hear NB's mentioned. It is exciting.
LOL DDC... Nothing to do
June 26, 2008 - 23:19 ET by bigtimerLOL DDC...
Nothing to do with my legs either... (Matthews is NEVER gonna' live that down!)
I agree...It is great though to hear this site and bloggers here be mentioned!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
You know bt,
June 26, 2008 - 23:44 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI bet he is proud of that statement and stands by it.
Right DDC... No
June 26, 2008 - 23:50 ET by bigtimerRight DDC...
No Flip-Flops for him.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
HA!
June 27, 2008 - 12:58 ET by DEVILDOCMOMLOL
McCain is Computer Illiterate
June 26, 2008 - 20:07 ET by PopularTechAnyone that believes in "man-made" Global Warming is. Hard to defend someone who graduated 894th out of 899 in his class and thinks man is causing climate change based on worthless computer models.
Sorry but McCain loses here.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Computer Illiterate McCain wants to cripple the economy
June 26, 2008 - 20:27 ET by PopularTechLets look at McCain's website - good stuff here!
"John McCain will establish a market-based system to curb greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, mobilize innovative technologies, and strengthen the economy. He will work with our international partners to secure our energy future, to create opportunities for American industry, and to leave a better future for our children."
Nothing like proposing a socialist system to manage CO2, God forbid we keep breathing! I cannot wait to vote for these socialist policies! Don't worry, the enviros will sucker everyone into the socialist system soon enough:
Britons fear the carbon cops are coming
Hey but you have to save the children from the evil CO2. We must stop the plants from growing and how dare the planet come with CO2 as a natural part of the atmosphere, how dare it be in our blood. Oh and McCain is not really an idiot he just "feels" we need to do this and that is how we make decisions now, based on "feelings".
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Maybe someone should point
June 26, 2008 - 23:53 ET by marvlMaybe someone should point out to this moron that McCain was a naval pilot. I'd like to see her or any of her smugly "literate" friends do a carrier landing at night.
Hey Moos, as the great bard put it, there are more things in heaven and earth, Nimrod, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.