Have you considered the delicious hypocrisy of Democrat presidential candidates that months ago refused to participate in debates sponsored by Fox News now practically lining up to appear on the cable news channel?
Chris Wallace certainly has, and on the most recent installment of "Fox News Sunday," asked Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean about this sudden change of heart by folks who just months ago were depicting the station as too biased to bother with.
What follows is a partial transcript of this segment (video embedded right):
CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: Governor, not to say that we’ve been counting, but it has been nineteen months since you’ve appeared here or on any Fox program. How do you explain the fact that in less than a week—and we’re very happy to have you—Governor Dean and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have all shown up on Fox?
HOWARD DEAN, DNC CHAIRMAN: Well, first of all, your audience is important to us. There’s…a lot of your audience are working class Democrats, the kind of people who will vote either way and we’d like them to vote Democrat.
Stop the tape. What kind of nonsense is this? FNC's audience is important to Democrats? A lot of FNC's audience are working class Democrats? Well, then why did they boycott the debates sponsored by this network?
After Dean switched the subject to McCain, Wallace tried to get him back on track:
WALLACE: Governor, again, I’m going to bring you back. We give you plenty of time to bash McCain. The left wing of your party is in a snit, over all these Democrats appearing on Fox. In fact, the head of MoveOn.org had this to say about Democrats on Fox: “It legitimizes a right-wing network that is going to use that celebrity to smear them—the Democrats–in the general election.” He and the head of the DailyKos are using words about you guys showing up here as “weak”, “idiotic”, “stupid.” How do you respond to the left wing?
DEAN: What I say is this: we stayed off Fox for a long time because your news department is in fact biased. But Chris, you haven’t been. We’ve always…you’ve always been tough, but I always thought fair and I still think that’s true. And we need to communicate with people who are going to vote in the Democratic Party. Hundreds of thousands of Republicans have turned their back on their own party to vote in the Democrat primaries in the last six months. We owe it to all the American people to reach out to those folks. So this is not about Fox News, that’s not why I’m here today. I’m out because I want to talk to your viewers directly about why this election is important and what we can offer the American people.
Stop the tape. Once again, then why boycott the Fox debates in the first place?
Sadly, the answer is -- and clearly one that neither Dean nor any Democrat will ever admit -- that when the boycott decision was made, the Democrats thought Hillary was a lock to win the nomination, and on a virtually unobstructed path to the White House. At the time, they didn't believe they needed the millions of FNC viewers.
Alas, now that the Democrats are facing a potentially disastrous nomination process and fractious convention, voters that watch FNC are suddenly important. Of course, Dean wasn't going to admit that:
WALLACE: And let me ask you, and obviously it’s always about the millions of people who watch these shows. Looking back, do you think it was a mistake for the Democratic party to boycott Fox debates and all the other programs during the last year, and thereby boycott getting your message out to the millions of people who watch?
DEAN: No, I think it was the right thing to do because there are some things in the news department that really have been shockingly biased. And I think that’s wrong. And I’ll just say so right up front, but it is important also for us to not…we shouldn’t punish the viewers of Fox by staying away. Now those viewers have had an opportunity to look at the debates on other channels, now they’re going to have an opportunity viewing on this channel and I think that’s fair.
Translation: we're sorry to FNC viewers for boycotting you, but we desperately want your votes now.
Hopefully, to paraphrase Rev. Wright, the chickens have come home to roost, and Fox viewers will treat Democrats as courteously as Democrats have treated them for the past twelve months.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.




















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"because there are some
May 4, 2008 - 15:42 ET by ThisnThat"because there are some things in the news department that really have been shockingly biased"
What exactly, Mr. Dean, is shockingly biased? Too bad Wallace didn't follow up on that. Maybe next time, eh?
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19 months from now?
May 4, 2008 - 16:45 ET by CaringwhiteguyGiven the length of time since the last appearance it might be December 2009 before Howie decides to come back. I wish Wallace would have asked today.
follow up question #2
May 4, 2008 - 17:20 ET by mom_roxSo, Gov. Dean, are you saying that ALL of the other broadcast and cable news departments show NO BIAS in their reporting and treat Democrats and Republicans equally and fairly?
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
DEAN: No, I think it was
May 4, 2008 - 15:48 ET by HumblepieDEAN: No, I think it was the right thing to do because there are some things in the news department that really have been shockingly biased.
Wallace: Well Dr. Dean, what has been so shockingly biased?
Dean: You know, they just keep telling the truth and it's making us look inept.
Just admit it Dean, your candidates will be treated with respect but this will not be a softball game. Batter up!
During this time with political correctness at its zenith, I reserve the right to let you know you're an idiot. Maybe I should change it to read "Quick the gene pool needs more chlorine!"
What total bull-crap from
May 4, 2008 - 16:03 ET by bigtimerWhat total bull-crap from the Screamin' Dean Machine...what total hypocrisy...they need Fox now, they need them desperately... it is simple as that...that is why I always had the opinion here to let them come begging to Fox, not the other way around.
This has been pure fun to watch...and it is going to continue.
Delicious indeed...nothing like watching desperation in full swing here when it comes to the leftists...
Btw...Dean trying to say that news dept. has always been biased is so absurd, I'm still chucklin'.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I wholeheartedly agree.
May 5, 2008 - 07:22 ET by mjgI wholeheartedly agree.
there are some things in
May 4, 2008 - 16:08 ET by motherbeltthere are some things in the news department that really have been shockingly biased. And I think that’s wrong. And I’ll just say so right up front, but it is important also for us to not…we shouldn’t punish the viewers of Fox by staying away.
If that isn't a bunch of B as in B, S as in S, I don't know what is.
It was OK to "punish the viewers of Fox" before? And now that they've seen debates on other channels, you'll "allow" them to view Fox??? Why?
But the best part is this:
Hundreds of thousands of Republicans have turned their back on their
own party to vote in the Democrat primaries in the last six months. We owe it to all the American people to reach out to those folks.
Uh, Howard, if Fox is so biased, and a lot of Republicans (Fox-watchers) have turned their back on the party and gone Democratic, why would they still be watching Fox? If Fox is so biased, wouldn't they have switched to CNN or MSNBC where the coverage is "fair"?
MB, don't hit this "doctor" with facts,
May 4, 2008 - 19:23 ET by FastEdit only confuses him - you've got to wonder, just how good of a doctor Dean was? With this kind of thinking, what kind of diagnosis did he make? - huummm?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
FOX NOISE...
May 4, 2008 - 16:25 ET by danybhoyWhen you really look at FoxNews compaired to their compitition, ask yourself this...Does FoxNews really have a conservative right bias or has the rest of the MSM lurched so far to the liberal left that Fox just seems to be that far to the right? I really do feel that FNC is more or less balanced, & I see most others in the MSM as being hard left biased. In the case of the NYTs & MSNBC, they don't even bother to hide it. No fair minded person should EVER trust what they say as the truth again. They burned that bridge a while back, & I won't go back.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
dany... I loved how you
May 4, 2008 - 16:28 ET by bigtimerdany...
I loved how you used Olbie's favorite handle for Fox above...Fox Noise indeed, and he and other leftists in the msm can't handle the noise...poor baby...
Doncha' just' love it....
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I love that Howie is
May 4, 2008 - 17:13 ET by motherbeltI love that Howie is spinning the crossovers as Republican deserters. They still will not acknowledge "Operation Chaos!"
ROFL!!
LOL mb... Great
May 4, 2008 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerLOL mb...
Great point...and by the way...the msm never will acknowledge it.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
OPERATION CHAOS....
May 4, 2008 - 19:54 ET by danybhoybigtimer,
The MSM won't acknowledge it, yet. When the "Fairness Doctine" is back on the table, you can bet your @$$ the MSM will be talking all about Operation Chaos & how big of an impact it had on the Dem's nomination race.
BTW, about Fox Noise, BathTubBoy has also used Fixed News. Say it any way you want Keith, they still thump you in the ratings book.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Being a former registered
May 4, 2008 - 17:49 ET by ricklailBeing a former registered Libertarian the county declared me unaffiliated when the Libertarian party lost it's right to be a party in NC because they didn't get enough percentage of the votes in the 2004 election. Well it really worked to my advantage. I normally would have voted in the Rep primary but with this clown of a Lt Gov we have running for governor I just had to declare as a Dem and vote against her. Voting for Hillary was icing on the cake to keep Operation Chaos alive. That is the only 2 races I voted in. I left the rest like judges and Lt Gov blank.
I don't know how many others in the state that were unaffiliated or changed their registration to vote in the Dem primary.
When registation ended before the primary there were about 8000 statewide that had changed registration from Rep to Dem. I knew that Howie would try to use that to his advantage.
Do you know the diffence between a Republican and Democrat?
The Democrat signs the back of the check, the Republican signs the front.
"A pharisee is hard on others and easy on himself, but a spiritual man is easy on others and hard on himself." A.W. Tozer (Pharisee=modern day liberal)
Well Boy-Howdy
May 4, 2008 - 17:54 ET by bigtimerWell Boy-Howdy rickl....
Absolutely Beautiful!
Operation Chaos in full force...
I, for one, want to say thank you!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
thank you, rick
May 4, 2008 - 19:26 ET by mom_roxI hadn't heard that one before. Thanks for sharing.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
Yeah there's no bias anywhere else, but Fox... Right....
May 4, 2008 - 16:30 ET by TaserCatInteresting that Dean thinks there's bias at Fox simply because its reporters and anchors dare to ask questions people are thinking about, and haven't seen asked anywhere else.
Fox asks questions, and talks about stories the other networks with their 95 % liberal line-ups don't find newsworthy. Either that or they other guys are simply too lazy to ask because it doesn't fit their NY Times storyline of the day.
Ask anyone at the major TV networks about the NY Times setting the agenda for the daily news cycle. They'll tell you what a huge impact it has. Yet ask the same people if the times is known as a liberal publication and again there's almost unanimous agreement. Then by caveat, aren't they following a liberal biased agenda? Fox is simply not going the safe liberal route. Dems can't stand unique thought, and do whatever they can to stop it. Talk about intolerance.
Wallace's skill
May 4, 2008 - 17:14 ET by KC MulvilleNotice how Chris Wallace handed Dean the rope, and watched Dean hang himself? Wallace knows that he doesn't have to explictly tell his audience that the interviewee is a pure fool. He simply allows the fool to display it himself.
Embarassing
May 4, 2008 - 17:20 ET by MystapittJust watched that interview. I almost...almost felt bad for Dean. He looked so foolish.
NOT A CHANCE...
May 4, 2008 - 20:00 ET by danybhoyNo way in hell I feel bad for Howard Dean, the man is a mean spirited jerk, & he does'nt know enough to hide it. He should go back to VT & stay there.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Hay Dean, It's only temporary! LMAO
May 4, 2008 - 17:32 ET by upcountrywaterHundreds of thousands of Republicans have turned their back on their
own party to vote in the Democrat primaries in the last six months.
THANK YOU RUSH AND OPERATION CHAOS!!!!
The POPE says, GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
IranianUranium<sleep>New/Infrastructure/repair?/ROFLMAO
Dean
May 4, 2008 - 18:17 ET by iveseenitallThe first time I saw Dean he was giving a speech as a candidate before the 2004 election. I remember turning to my wife and commenting that he was an ego-driven, left-wing nutjob. It has proved to be so true. The guy lives a "liberal" la-la land and he actually believes his own lies and distortions. He and the rest of the lefties are destroying the Democratic Party. Look what he's done to the nominating process. He, with his dumb rules and petty "punishing" of Michigan and Florida, caused the very problem they are in. Now the Dims are in a hole and Howie just keeps digging. As Ralph used to say to Alice, "It's a riot, a regular riot"!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
isia... LOL! I also
May 4, 2008 - 18:24 ET by bigtimerisia...
LOL!
I also remember watching the speech of his in Iowa that was heard 'round the world...the Dean Scream made me come out of the room excitedly and tell my husband that he may as well bend over and kiss his own arse good-bye...stick a fork in em' he's done!
Then these brilliant nit-wits in the dem party pick him to lead the DNC...I never laughed harder when that was announced..and it still continues to be hilarious...what a genius he is...what whiz-bang thinking by the dems to-boot.
Let the show continue...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
HOWARD DEAN...
May 5, 2008 - 06:37 ET by danybhoyI figured him out way before his now famous scream, here is the deal. The Dems were doing an early season debate, in Iowa I think, Dean is up there with like 5 or 6 people. Kerry, Sharpton, Edwards, & a couple of others, & he is responding to a question about whatever, & he's laying it out by saying something to the effect of, "...& by the middle of my 2nd term, my administration will do X,Y, & Z...". You then hear people laughing out loud, in the crowd, & from others in the debate, Dean was plowing straight forward, he kinda stopped, & his eyes shifted from side to side without his head moving in a very nervous manner, & continued forward.
He came off as an arrogant jerk then, & nothing he has done since has changed my mind. I listened to this sit down on XM, & he really seemed to have a hard time answering questions without trying to spin talking points into every word he says.
I get the idea that the Dems wanted to keep him busy without doing too much damage to the party, so they stuck him in charge of the DNC. The more he does TV interviews, the worse he looks, so I'm all for seeing more of Dr.Dean everywhere. I will give him credit for showing up on Fox, but someone in the party has gotta be telling him today that he did'nt do too well with Wallace.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Watching Dean being forced to...
May 4, 2008 - 17:53 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasWatching Dean being forced to _itch slap himself on Fox was hilarious!
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
"But Chris, you haven’t
May 4, 2008 - 18:28 ET by Blazer"But Chris, you haven’t been. We’ve always…you’ve always been tough, but I always thought fair and I still think that’s true."
Woa, hold on. Isn't it because of Chris Wallace and his percieved "conservative hit job" on Bill Clinton in Sept. of 06', right after he got ABC to omit portion's of "Path To 9-11, that got the left all in an uproar and started the whole firestorm to begin with?
I would have loved for Chris to have countered: "Fox News is "fair and Balanced" and we will ask tough question's to conservatives and liberal's alike, but you guy's have no problem with going on network's with a decidedly liberal bias, why?
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer...I think Dean
May 5, 2008 - 00:36 ET by JerBlazer...I think Dean genuinely believes--as do I--that Chris Wallace is indeed "tough and fair". That said, his poorly-framed bin Laden question to Clinton, and the latter's overheated response, weren't exactly shining moments for either.
Also, it wasn't just that The Path to 9/11 was biased in tone, but that it was--at least in parts--factually inaccurate and factually unverified which generated the objections.
Jer
Jer what was poorly framed
May 5, 2008 - 10:34 ET by Dan The Man 2Jer what was poorly framed about the question. To President Clinton teh question was poorly timed but the framing was great. It was the reason Clinton became unglued and went off on Wallace, Clinton wanted Wallace to lose his advantage as an intervier and relegate him to softball pitcher status. It worked.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan The Man...I think I can
May 5, 2008 - 16:04 ET by JerDan The Man...I think I can best illustrate why IMHO the question was poorly framed by offering a hypothetical comparison. Suppose Olbermann scored a journalist coup by landing an interview with President Bush, and the first serious question posed to Bush was something along the following lines: Mr. President, I have reviewed hundreds of e-mails sent by my [predominantly liberal] audience, and they overwhelmingly want me to ask you why you ignored bin Laden and numerous terrorist warnings prior to 9/11 which resulted in the deaths of nearly 3000 Americans?
That was the thrust of Wallace's question to Clinton. Its tone was unnecessarily provocative, originated from very likely anti-Clinton Fox viewers, and implied a certain level of Presidential malfeasance. The topic could and should have been broached in a much less incendiary manner. That is why I believe it was poorly framed. And I'm a Chris Wallace fan.
Jer
Where have you been? The
May 5, 2008 - 16:56 ET by Dan The Man 2Where have you been? The press does that to the President all the time. The question was blunt and to the point. In fact interviewers do ask President Bush questions such as you pose. NPR MR. LEHRER: Mr. President, do you have a feeling of personal failure about Iraq right now? 60 Minutes and these were just a few. Do some research Jer, you are begining to smell trollish.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan The Man...Your sense of
May 5, 2008 - 18:36 ET by JerDan The Man...Your sense of smell is about as well-developed as your sense of civility--both are stunted.
If you want to debate the issues, I'm more than willing. If you would rather toss around snide personal insults, I'm not interested.
Jer
Jer, your comments were
May 6, 2008 - 10:33 ET by Dan The Man 2Jer, your comments were trollish and there seemed to be no research on your part. You posed, IMO, a stupid question that had already been posed many times. You further insulted Wallace by comparing him to Oberman a very left wing bomb throwing troll.
I was showing you where you were wrong in the issue you brought up, that of a poorly framed question. I am suspect of most of what you post as you have been trollish in the past. In this case it seems you were throwing out assumptions taht Bush had not been asked any hard questions before, a trollish position especially since 5 minutes of research pulled those I posted.
Jesus said you can tell ones character by his fruits.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan...If you think I am a
May 6, 2008 - 12:37 ET by JerDan...If you think I am a "smelly troll", why don't you dispense with the sanctimonious lectures about Jesus judging my character and report me directly to the moderators.
I would welcome it, but I don't think you have the guts to do so. Otherwise, just leave me alone. You're annoying.
Jer
Crazy like a FOX
May 4, 2008 - 19:03 ET by acumen"....your (FOX) news department is in fact biased. But Chris, you haven’t been."
Schmoozing Chis is all fine and dandy but where does that answer leave the Bill O'Reilly and Greta interviews with Hillary?
Evening acumen... Hey
May 4, 2008 - 19:17 ET by bigtimerEvening acumen...
Hey that is a great point...he'd just spin it somehow, like all the leftists do, still would of been fun to hear an answer to that if asked.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Dean...You gotta hand it
May 4, 2008 - 21:21 ET by Clear thinkerDean...
You gotta hand it to him. He loses a run at the white house and comes up with a job as the DNC boss. How the hell did that happen? Do Dems vote for that position or is it handed to the one idiot that would take the job?
He is exactly what I don't like about liberals. Sorry folks, just venting!
"Abstain from McCain"
The absence of bias in
May 4, 2008 - 22:33 ET by wiwfThe absence of bias in newsreporting is called bias? BYAH!
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Dean is dumb
May 5, 2008 - 01:12 ET by CobraMan"No, I think it was the right thing to do because there are some things in the news department that really have been shockingly biased. And I think that’s wrong. And I’ll just say so right up front, but it is important also for us to not…we shouldn’t punish the viewers of Fox by staying away."
So Dean is saying that it's important to stay away from Fox and, at the same time, it's also important not to stay away from Fox? That's a complete contradiction! Man, Dean sure is DUMB!
Please...
May 5, 2008 - 02:36 ET by WhichWingSomeone please take 'delicious' away from Noel.
>>HERE<<
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw