Moyers Defends Obama and Wright with Democrat Talking Points

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Do my tax dollars really have to support the anti-American vitriol that comes out of the mouth of PBS's Bill Moyers every week?

Before you answer, consider that the host of "Bill Moyers Journal" followed up last week's much publicized sycophantic lovefest with Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama's America-hating pastor by going on a six minute defense of the junior senator from Illinois and the reverend this Friday which was filled with Democrat talking points.

Readers are warned to proceed with caution before either reviewing the highly-offensive transcript that follows, or clicking on the embedded video in the upper-right (h/t TVNewser):

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I once asked a reporter back from Vietnam, "Who's telling the truth over there?" Everyone he said. Everyone sees what's happening through the lens of their own experience." That's how people see Jeremiah Wright. In my conversation with him on this broadcast a week ago and in his dramatic public appearances since, he revealed himself to be far more complex than the sound bites that propelled him onto the public stage. Over 2000 of you have written me about him, and your opinions vary widely. Some sting: "Jeremiah Wright is nothing more than a race-hustling, American hating radical," one viewer wrote. A "nut case," said another. Others were far more were sympathetic to him.

Many of you have asked for some rational explanation for Wright's transition from reasonable conversation to shocking anger at the National Press Club. A psychologist might pull back some of the layers and see this complicated man more clearly, but I'm not a psychologist. Many black preachers I've known - scholarly, smart, and gentle in person -- uncorked fire and brimstone in the pulpit. Of course I've known many white preachers like that, too.

But where I grew up in the south, before the civil rights movement, the pulpit was a safe place for black men to express anger for which they would have been punished anywhere else; a safe place for the fierce thunder of dignity denied, justice delayed. I think I would have been angry if my ancestors had been transported thousands of miles in the hellish hole of a slave ship, then sold at auction, humiliated, whipped, and lynched. Or if my great-great grandfather had been but three -fifths of a person in a constitution that proclaimed, "We the people." Or if my own parents had been subjected to the racial vitriol of Jim Crow, Strom Thurmond, Bull Connor, and Jesse Helms. Even so, the anger of black preachers I've known and heard about and reported on was, for them, very personal and cathartic.

Stop the tape. Bill Moyers was born in 1934, fully 30 years before civil rights legislation was enacted which addressed all these issues. If white, liberal Americans are never going to move beyond what divided the races decades and centuries ago, how can we expect black Americans to?

What Moyers was employing here at the beginning of his anti-American "essay" was the classic liberal motif of excusing abhorrent behavior today by bringing up abhorrent behavior in the past. This isn't the way adults behave, Bill. But I digress:

That's not how Jeremiah Wright came across in those sound bites or in his defiant performances this week. What white America is hearing in his most inflammatory words is an attack on the America they cherish and that many of their sons have died for in battle — forgetting that black Americans have fought and bled beside them, and that Wright himself has a record of honored service in the Navy. Hardly anyone took the "chickens come home to roost" remark to convey the message that intervention in the political battles of other nations is sure to bring retaliation in some form, which is not to justify the particular savagery of 9/11 but to understand that actions have consequences. My friend Bernard Weisberger, the historian, says, yes, people are understandably seething with indignation over Wright's absurd charge that the united states deliberately brought an HIV epidemic into being. But it is a fact, he says, that within living memory the U.S. Public Health Service conducted a study that deliberately deceived black men with syphilis into believing that they were being treated, while actually letting them die for the sake of a scientific test.

Stop the tape! Excuse me, Bill, but this is a classic Democrat talking point concerning this matter. Yes, 76 years ago, BEFORE YOU WERE BORN, there was a shameful experiment begun by the U.S. Public Health Service in Tuskegee, Alabama. It was disgraceful and deplorable.

However, it was concluded in 1972, and by NO stretch of the imagination justifies anyone to claim that the HIV epidemic was created to kill black people. These issues are totally unrelated despite this sickening Democrat talking point that you disgracefully reiterated on Friday evening. But I once again digress:

Does this excuse Wright's anger? His exaggerations or distortions? You'll have to decide for yourself. At least it helps me to understand the why of them.

But in this multimedia age the pulpit isn't only available on Sunday mornings. There's round the clock media — the beast whose hunger is never satisfied, especially for the fast food with emotional content. So the preacher starts with rational discussion and after much prodding throws more and more gasoline on the fire that will eventually consume everything it touches. He had help — people who for their own reasons set out to conflate the man in the pulpit who wasn't running for president with the man in the pew who was.

Behold the double standard: John McCain sought out the endorsement of John Hagee, the war-mongering Catholic-bashing Texas preacher, who said the people of New Orleans got what they deserved for their sins. But no one suggests McCain shares Hagee's delusions, or thinks AIDS is God's punishment for homosexuality. Pat Robertson called for the assassination of a foreign head of state and asked God to remove Supreme Court justices, yet he remains a force in the Republican religious right. After 9/11 Jerry Falwell said the attack was God's judgment on America for having been driven out of our schools and the public square, but when McCain goes after the endorsement of a preacher he once condemned as an agent of intolerance, the press gives him a pass.

Stop the tape! This is another disgraceful, Democrat talking point that Moyers was sharing with his viewers. John Hagee is NOT Sen. McCain's pastor, spiritual leader, or mentor. By contrast, Rev. Wright represented all these to Obama.

What Obama supporters and biased sycophants in the media like Moyers miss is that there is a VAST difference between seeking someone's endorsement, and going to someone's church for twenty years for spiritual guidance and mentoring.

VAST!

The fact is that politicians take money and receive endorsements from all kinds of people and entities, many whose positions and opinions they don't necessarily share. Hence the term, "Politics makes strange bedfellows."

Ever heard this, Bill?

This is far different than attending someone's church for 20 years that you've publicly and in writing declared as your spiritual leader and mentor.

In reality, regardless of his biases, Moyers certainly must know this, which means that his reading of this Democrat talking point Friday represented even a greater journalistic fraud. But let's continue:

Jon Stewart recently played a tape from the Nixon white house in which Billy Graham talks in the oval office about how he has friends who are Jewish, but he knows in his heart that they are undermining America. This is crazy and wrong -- white preachers are given leeway in politics that others aren't.

Which means it is all about race, isn't it? Wright's offensive opinions and inflammatory appearances are judged differently.

Stop the tape! This is offensive and disgusting.

Let's be clear about something, Bill: if Rev. Wright was white, his words and his connection to Obama would have received JUST as much attention, and have been perceived as EQUALLY racist and antagonistic. The mere suggestion by you, on television no less, that America's response to this pastor is because he's black is nothing less than race-baiting on your part, and about as abhorrent an assertion as possible given the circumstances.

Let's continue:

He doesn't fire a shot in anger, put a noose around anyone's neck, call for insurrection, or plant a bomb in a church with children in Sunday school. What he does is to speak his mind in a language and style that unsettles some people, and says some things so outlandish and ill-advised that he finally leaves Obama no choice but to end their friendship. Politics often exposes us to the corroding acid of the politics of personal destruction, but I've never seen anything like this — this wrenching break between pastor and parishioner. Both men no doubt will carry the grief to their graves. All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America, where the gluttony of the non-stop media grinder consumes us all and prevents an honest conversation on race. It is the price we are paying for failing to heed the great historian Jacob Burckhardt, who said "beware the terrible simplifiers".

No, Bill. It is America-hating, racist liberals like you in the media that prevent this country from having a serious dialogue about this subject. It is INDEED folks like you -- whose guilt over the past, and hatred of white people as a result -- that add to racial problems rather move the nation closer to a solution.

Maybe even worse is that my tax dollars go to support this vile invective. How do I get my money back?

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Bill Moyers is in a

Bill Moyers is in a comfortable position, and he knows it. He can make radical statements such as that, and claim that his critics are "racists."  I was going to make a statement about how, since PBS is a publicly-funded organization, it's time to start contacting congressmen about cutting his funding as he's using public airwaves and public moneys to support his radical POV, but I realize now that he can claim the moral high ground and claim "censorship," whilst creating another smear against Conservatives.

But then again, other than the devoted followers of his and Conservatives who dislike the man, who really watches PBS? Who really pays attention to Moyers? Isn't he simply a 'crazy uncle,' or does he have any real influence anymore?

Here's a better idea!

I don't believe we have to stifle Bill Moyers.  I'd prefer to write our Congressmen and see if we can't stop funding the show unless he's willing to put on a conservative to balance his left wing crap.  Of course, he would protest and tell everyone how unfairly he's being treated.  He would probably retire since, if the conservative was good enough, he would be shown for the buffoon he really is.

That's my biggest problem with PBS is they get to put this stuff on with no balance and claim they're not biased when, it should be obvious that they are.  We should be able to force the executives of this organization to provide balanced programming, especially since their party of choice wants to bring back the fairness doctrine.  

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

And here's an even-better idea.

Do the above, but skip the "unless." If the free marketplace demands Moyers, George Soros can pay for him. PBS needs to be totally defunded, and would even if it were fair to conservatives. There's no way it could please me and please most people here at the same time, and I think we all know that. Why try? Let's just quit spending anything on public broadcasting and give up on the failure of socialist broadcasting.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Many of you have asked for

Many of you have asked for some rational explanation for Wright's transition from reasonable conversation to shocking anger at the National Press Club. A psychologist might pull back some of the layers and see this complicated man more clearly, but I'm not a psychologist. 

    It's not complicated at all.  Wright is just a highly paid entertainer with a big ego.

As far as I am concerned

As far as I am concerned Moyers is as nuts as Olbermann...only difference is we help fund this leftist lunatic.

He says Wright is a complicated man...no he isn't...not at all, I understand all the America hating racist rhetoric he throws out...

The slavery issue is getting way past old now...he sure as heck loves bring up Thurmond and Helms, but of course not Byrd for example....KKK anyone?

He says Wright gives a defiant performance...oh yeah that he does..how do people think this guy has got where is he is, racial divide is well planned, Black Nationalism is the goal.

He brings up the chickens coming home to roost...defending him, saying all of America's actions will have consequences...

He blames the round the clock media for all of this too...he calls it the beast...hypocrisy anyone?

Then he attempts to bring up Hagee and others again in regards to McCain...while I am no McCain supporter this is getting rather old too...McCain didn't sit in Hagee's pew for twenty years, or donate close to thirty thousand to his cause...he wasn't married by him, or had his kids baptized by him either...there is no comparison...

Finally he says we should all hang our heads in shame...over the split between Obama and Wright...

I DON'T Think so you leftist simpleton, you can if you want...doesn't seem to me you have the least understanding of why people out here in the real world are outraged with this race baiting hate-filled man...

Obama is doing what he has to because politics is a blood sport...something you relish as long as your leftists are left alone, not criticized, and win elections, at the cost to this country, why that is just peachy-keen with you.

Moyers is mad...in more ways that one. 

As far as funding PBS and this piece of pathetic work, congress was under pressure years ago to do something about this ....Gingrich said it would be done when he was House Speaker...well, nothing happened....

Things will remain the same with PBS...we all pay.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

BT

BT,

Wow. This is the most I've ever seen you post in one message. I'm glad to see his rant angered you as much a I.

This guy's disgusting and shouldn't be on PBS using taxpayer money to make such statements. Period! ns

Good morning Noel...Oh

Good morning Noel...

Oh it angered me...I am still HOT!

Btw Noel, you have evidently missed a lot of my posts over time, this sure isn't the first time I have posted this much by any means...nor will it be the last....lol!

Btw...Mornings always bring out the best in me.  ;-) 

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Me too...I read this a

Me too...I read this a while ago but had to go out so I couldn't post, and I am still furious!

Noel, you did a great "fisking" of Moyers' lecture (I won't call it a speech.) And bt, you touched on many points that I thought, so I won't belabor them.

But I will say this: I will not feel sorry for Sen. Obama. As the old saying goes: You pay your money and you make your choice. Obama made his choice. He could have stood by his pastor; in fact he tried to, at first. But when the heat got too high, he chose the approval of others. If he truly believed that Rev. Wright was a composite of black angst from the days of slavery and down through the years since then, and had every right to express himself thus, then shame on him for not having the nerve to stand with him.

 

A lesson for all

Moyers is an example of one that God has turned over to a reprobate mind. (Romans1:28)  That is not judging the man that is a fact. God in his Word said that by their fruits we would know them. His actions, not just here but for numerous years, prove it to me.

"A pharisee is hard on others and easy on himself, but a spiritual man is easy on others and hard on himself." A.W. Tozer (Pharisee=modern day liberal)

I love how leftist

I love how leftist "journalists", like Moyers, always say we are viewing controversial figures, like Wright, in a one dimensional manner and through our own "experiences (read: prejudices), that if we just took the time to probe the "complex" layers of their personalities and their "intricate" life stories, we would be far more sympathetic and agreeable to them and their causes. What Moyers is saying is that we're just too ignorant and unsophisticated to trust our own judgement and thank PBS that there are sophisticates, like him, to explain Wright to us hillbillies. This is the PBS elitist view at it's most obnoxious.
By the same token, I don't hear Moyers pleading for a deeper understanding and multi-dimensional view of, say, Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush. No, he's fine leaving them seen as cartoon figures by the Left.

Chris

Chris,

Good point. Nor do you ever see liberal media members try to explain why folks like Hagee and Robertson make the statements they do.

Remember, liberal racism is to be explained; conservative racism is to be vilified and used to excuse liberal racism.

Isn't that convenient? ns

Noel, could it be that it

Noel, could it be that it goes back to the liberals basic premise that liberalism is automatically "complex" and "nuanced", while conservatism is just "primal" and "unsophisticated"?

Another Pathetic Outburst by Moyers

Yes, the claim of depth and "nuance" by the left, and accusation of flat out stupidity by the right, because they don't understand, is perhaps the number one thought in Moyers' brain.

This despicable little man has dribbled his trash onto the American public for too long, but that's okay. The fact that I have to pay for it is not okay!

Chris

Chris,

No, I think this it's mostly about liberal guilt. Liberals want to accept the abhorrent behavior of folks they believe have been wronged in the past so that they can feel better about the wronging. This is why liberals explain criminal behavior by minorities and the poor as being a function of environment, and therefore can blame it on corporations and successful Americans.

This is also why liberals explain terrorism as being born of poverty, and, therefore, can blame people attacking us on our imperialism and economic success.

As such, it really is a function of yearning for communism and/or socialism, and, therefore, blaming underperformance and lack of success on capitalism versus personal responsibility or shortcomings.

Remember: it takes a village. :-) ns

Good points both of you

Good points both of you guys! Who was the liberal (Mario Cuomo?) who said that conservatives scrawl their message in crayons, whereas liberals use fine-point pens? That describes their opinion perfectly, I think. To libs, conservatives are just big lumbering oxen, too dumb to grasp the finer points of race relations.

I get the feeling Moyers feels guilty for a Democrat disaster

He may have regrets over the fact that his initial Wright interview was such an asskissingfest of softballs. Bill's own asskissing may have made the nutcase even bolder, ultimately setting him off on his later rant at the Press Club.
JMR

PS At this point everyone knows how I'd feel about paying PBS anything, even if Moyers weren't as biased as he obviously is!

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Morning sarc... Plus let

Morning sarc...

Plus let us not forget the emails he received that he mentioned at the top of his leftist whining blather...you can be sure there was plenty of criticism too...

He is a self-aggrandizing mad-man....and criticism is something he doesn't take kindly too...which he got plenty of from the rest of the msm since the arse kissing lovefest of his with Wright.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

The Irony of a liberal press

The irony of a liberal press that carries water for Democrats is that in the end they are still "the press".

When the Iraq war first started the MSM tried valiantly to rally the Anti-War troops and Christine Ampour called the was a loss for the US on day 1.  Well, the public would have none of that and after a few days the coverage went mostly positive.

Maybe a bad example I guess, but surely counters the liberal cannard that the press gave Bush a free pass and promoted the war.

It was the same with the Lewinsky scandal.  

The irony comes in that the press gives liberals that somewhat false sense that they are immune to any criticism, so they get more and more bold and eventually hang themselves, as Wright did.

It has been said many times that guys like Michael Moore actually do more to help conservatives than hurt them because most people know he is a "goebels" type propagandist.  If he just stuck to some facts and built a case he might have some credibility, but would probably not sell much at the box office either.

On a tanget, theres'a  new move out about Abu Gharib and the local liberal ranter, The Phoenix, did a right up about it and said "nobody will be happy with this movie".   Why did they say that you ask?  Because the movie only dealt with facts and said the army did the right thing by prosecuting and trying to help the ones who actually did the abuse. The Phoenix of course wanted to see Bush and Cheney implicated in the mess and sumarily executed.

eL... Excellent

eL...

Excellent points.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Thanks BT

:)  Your points above were excellent too!  

Moyers obviously not a journalist

It's a pity that Moyers decided to kiss the pastors posterior instead of doing an interview, he could have given the press club a heads up on what to expect.  Instead, I think Pastor Wright might have taken many, at the press club, by surprise.

Seeing how everything turned out, everyone should be questioning Moyer's skills.

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

Moyers, like the little people of Olberman's world..

Moyers, like the rest of the little people of his world, the world of the Olberman - Krugman - Churchill - Scheer - clones .. are only about the gulttony of the non-stop media grinder that consumes their viewers and readers with one sided narrow minded visceral hatred ("Worst person of the Day") of everyone who does not walk in the blinding shadow of their contrived existence.

Indeed - "All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America"

.. where "honest conversation" is simply not allowed by the likes of Bill Moyers.

"beware the terrible simplifiers" ='s beware the Bill Moyer's - he who only sees the world thru his hateful and condemning eyes.

Bill Moyers - for calling on Hoover to find out evidence of homosexual activity in the Barry Goldwater for President camp. Right Bill, you're above what?

(;~/ gary

Great post Noel -- How about a contrasting list of a few hundred condescending, of others, views from Bill Moyers, himself. After all, that seems to be the thrust of his purpose in life. He is nothing more than a weasel; a small manipulative truth-twisting snit.

So let's see

Well if Wright, was actually right, Obama should rather quit the race and stay with the "fiery preacher".

Many "parishoners" of the church I go to have left lavish lifestyles for the more "mundane" in order to be righteous.

"What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his very soul".

Yet, this shows how much liberals worship government over God.  Moyers is upset that in order for Obama to be President - a position not unlike the Pope to liberals I guess - he must distance himself from the "truth of that horrible US", what a sad trade off.  

Knowing full well that in order for Obama to win he must convince at least some red-staters and/or whites to vote for him. Moyers realizes, as we all do, that this is merely for show, but Moyers is also not above "deceiving" the "unwashed masses" in order to get "his guy" through and into the seat of power.  

Bill Maher has basically said the same thing.

Not really sure wheter to

Not really sure wheter to call Moyers a "Wackjob" or a "Liberal Loon".  Both seem to FIT sooo well.....

This is the reasoning of a

This is the reasoning of a child but sadly common on the left.

new standards

Well, I don't how much clearer you can make 'full of shit'.

"I once asked FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, from Vietnam

to dig up dirt on Goldwater campaign staffers..."

Noel, I'll skip the video,

Noel, I'll skip the video, as we are approaching the dinner hour here on the right coast.

This whole rant by Bill Moyers is disgusting. I am made of fairly thick-skin, and am not often offended by anything, but this rambling rant of Moyers' managed to offend even me.

There was one statement if Bill's that kind of jumped off the screen, though:

...but to understand that actions have consequences.

Funny hearing this from someone as far out in left field as Moyers, as he and many of his fellow lefties have made fairly good livings over the years convincing people that their actions do not, or should not, have consequences.

I find it curious that the left, in its zeal to blame America first in all things, ignores the "meddling" of democrat administrations in the affairs of other countries through the years. Korea and Viet Nam being but two of these instances. Of course, we all know what really motivated the left to oppose our involvement in Viet Nam, given the ideology of our enemy.

What is more, the left has also been rather successful in tagging Viet Nam as "Nixon's War," even though he inherited it from Kennedy and Johnson, democrats both. They have also been successful over the years in getting Hitler tagged as a right-winger (which has wasn't), but that is a story for another day. It seems their efforts to re-write history are never ending.

Of course, Bill avoids any mention of inaction, which has consequences as well. I am referring here to Jimmy Carter, whose failure to take any decisive action during the Iran hostage ordeal did nothing other than to embolden the Islamo-supremecists, as they began to see the United States as a paper tiger.

These people have been taught for fourteen centuries to exploit any and all perceived weaknesses in their adversaries. Carter's inaction showed profound weakness, which essentially ushered in the latest round of Jihad. Prior to the 1970's, we had had very few problems with them.

Since that time, the Islamists have carried out attacks against this country at a steadily increasing frequency. Reagan showed a little backbone to them in the 1980's, and at least got their attention. Sadly, though, Bill Clinton's subsequent inaction through the 1990's, during which we were attacked five times, emboldened them still further, finally culminating in the attacks of 9/11.

Strange that Bill doesn't mention any of this in his little rant.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

Pandering

Noel,

What a bigoted nasty piece this writing is...Moyers has been a respected journalist for years and you are an upstart without portfolio... It is of interest that McCains supporter, Hagee, has not gotten near the screed from the press.  Nor has hillery's spiritual advisor Doug Coe....gotten attention.

 But someone, probably Ickes, feed these out of context looped clips to the MSM/ press and  they, needing $ and ratings , have run with it to ground.  Just like a snapping turtle you have latched on to the lowest basic instincts of the low information voters..

Shameless.

 

docb

docb,

What a bigoted, nasty comment you've left for me. Care to refute any of the points I've made here, or just insult me by suggesting I'm a racist, upstart, snapping turtle possessing the lowest basic instincts of low information voters?

Honestly, I await your next utterance with great eagerness. After all, Saturday evening approaches, and I find you tremendously entertaining. :-) ns

Noel, I got you a little

Noel, I got you a little present - GIFT

For everyone else, an FYI.

 

strat, and if Troll Spray doesn't work,

There is always this time-honored remedy.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

I'll take a case,

I'll take a case, RD.

LOL

RRAM Tough! 

docb

docb,

BTW, you might want to write CNN and complain about articles being linked at its website. After all, if you read this piece about the Wright fallout just posted by CNN chief national correspondent John King, you'll find the webmaster is recommending readers see a blog posting by "an upstart without portfolio."

You'll find the same thing in this CNN article about Obama dropping in the polls!

I guess they're pandering, too.

Thank you for playing my game.

ROTFFLMFAO!!! ns

P.S. You might want to complain to Newsweek, too! Hehehehehe

Just saw this ns...and

Just saw this ns...and those extra 'f's are exactly how I feel about docb's post.

Can't help myself when it comes to this.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Noel,

LOL-It appears somebody is having way too much fun in here tonight. :-^)

I mean, ROTFFLMFAO!!!???

Too funny.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

docb, maybe Hagee isn't

docb, maybe Hagee isn't getting all the press because

1: he isn't McCain's mentor and friend of 20 years,

2: he simply endorsed McCain, and

3: he has not been sticking his face out and shooting off his mouth in front of every camera he can find!

No candidate can be responsible for who endorses him, but you can rest assured that, were Hagee carrying on the way Wright has, we would be hearing about it.

mb... Plus said candidate

mb...

Plus said candidate if 'R' behind their name would be toast by now.

Gone.

Period.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Update to McCain/Hagee

I should have included this, probably as #2: McCain didn't knock himself out making a big speech to defend Hagee.

mb... Correct...plus

mb...

Correct...plus there were no buses near by to throw him under immediately...he had to think about how to do it til the next one was scheduled to come along...

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

This is a little (but not

This is a little (but not much) OT...I just finished reading a great column by Doug Giles at Townhall, Where Wright Is Right

He rips up Obama's claim that he never knew the man was so virulent:

You know you knew, Barry. One, as close as you confessed to have been to this cleric you could not but know that Wright is on fire—I said, he is on fire, muy caliente mucho fuego—with his beliefs. This leaves your current abhorrence of your mentor a little suspicious, Barack. Like in . . . please, save it man.

And ends with this:

Now, where was Jeremiah right? He was right not in his take on the state of our union but in regarding the character of his former disciple, namely that Obama is a liar . . . or a politician, as Wright put it. Yes, the Rev was right in showing us all that Barack is not our hope, he’s not an agent of change, he’s not a fresh wind blowing inside the Beltway; he’s simply a run-of-the-mill politician, nothing more, nothing less, who will do whatever it takes, say whatever it takes, and skin whoever it takes to have his dream come true of becoming the center of the universe.

Low information voters?

So, tell us docb, just how low on the information totem pole does one have to be to fanatically cling to regressives such as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, given the havoc that their (and your) Marxist/Leninist ideology wreaked upon humanuity in the last century. After all, only 150 million plus human beings lost their lives as a result of this lunacy.

Communism is the most oppressive and murderous form of government the world has yet seen. Yet despite the horrendous track record of same, you and your ilk continue to cling to it as if it were the Holy Grail.

What is truly amusing to no end is that you and your kind consider yourselves to be the intellectual superiors of everyone who doesn't go along with your mindless stupidity.

When it comes to low information voters, you and your leftist friends are about as profoundly information-deprived as it is possible to be.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

RD

RD,

We're all wasting our time. This is a hit and run artist. I've gone back over all his recent comments, and he NEVER responds to people. He just posts his "thoughts" and moves on. ns

Noel,

He just posts his "thoughts" and moves on.

Scary, that is.

It just astounds me that, given the history of the 20th Century, anyone with an IQ above refrigerator temperature can come in here and, with a straight face, accuse those of us who believe in freedom and prosperity, neither of which Marxist/Leninism has never brought to anyone, of being intellectually inferior in some way.

Perhaps it is time this troll's bridge was blown up? :-)

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

RD

RD,

It's being monitored. ns

Just like Lame Cherry.

Just like Lame Cherry. Hmm....

B

B,

And your point is? ns

Maybe they're the same

Maybe they're the same person with a serious personality disorder.

B

B,

Nah. Very different MO. ns

no way

Know where near the talent for "writing" LC had, what happend to him anyway?

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Um, yeah, I was KIDDING. You

Um, yeah, I was KIDDING. You know, jokey-jokey?

B

B,

Gotcha. Shoulda known. :-) ns

bal, actually it is more like chokey-chokey.

LOL-Jezz kiddin', as it is Saturday night. :-)

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

general company, LC is still around.

But isn't as active as before, for some reason, as his last posted comment was ten days ago.

He curiously changed his bio, though.

Strange.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

R D...I can't find a Lame

R D...I can't find a Lame Cherry post since late Feb. '08. All the ones "tracked" since then are actually earlier posts.  [Unless I'm mistaken...admittedly a very quick search.]

Jer

Jer, I just gave it a cursory glance as well.

Lazy, I am. LOL

What I found odd was his altered bio:


I was actually alive once, but was caught in a transporter beam by
James Doohan and in a photonic mix up burned onto a perpetual CD of the
rock group, Lame Cherry, and now only exist on harddrives in a world of
experts who hide behind computer screens never living the existential
experience of life.

The always expert is the expert always.

Better to leave the thinking to God as He has the mind for it.

Slightly bizarro, dontcha think?

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

Well, I thought Lame Cherry

Well, I thought Lame Cherry was "slightly bizarro", but entertaining, nonetheless.

Jer

I liked reading his post,

Thanks, havent read any post from him in some time, thought maybe he said something "objectional"? I was thinking he was becoming a bit more of a conversation, he actualy replyed to a few folks.

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

As far as I am concerened

As far as I am concerened LC and his posts at times made you do some thinking...

Oh well, who needs that.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

g c...Of course, for

g c...Of course, for anyone even slightly left of center, it was hard to find a single sentence he posted that wasn't "objectional".  It really didn't bother me...I just considered it Lame being Lame.  He was intelligent and knowledgeable, however, and often there would be some interesting insights amidst the bizarreness.

One of these days, I think I'll revisit his posts and compile a "Best of Lame Cherry" for our reading enjoyment.

Jer
 

Jer, I agree. LC could be a real PITA at times, however...

...there was a certain level of insight to his comments that was above the norm.

I am still having trouble getting past his edited bio. Of course, I am certainly no psychologist, but I found it to be a little disconcerting.

What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008

R D...I agree...it is

R D...I agree...it is pretty cryptic and odd.  Do you recall his previous bio, and when this modified one appeared?

I don't, although I recall a reference to the rock band Lame Cherry also mentioned in the one before.  Maybe someone else can shed some light.

Jer

We need to see the rise of

We need to see the rise of many more upstarts in journalism.  That would be the people who write objectively and truthfully, something liberals can't do.

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Upside

Of course , the upside of this entire Rev.Wrong affair is that it once again exposes the enemy within to America and the world. I'm sure many who have not had much experience with the modern "liberal" mentality have had their eyes opened these past few weeks. Moyers is the left personified. Yes, they hate America. They are the mad dogs who bite the hands that feed them. They often rationalize hatred away, as Moyers just did, with sanctimonious, unctuous words and empty phrases. They haunt the newsrooms and classrooms ( and apparently the "churches" ) of our nation, spewing venim in their attempts to tear the nation apart and rear another generation of ignorant apostles. But ironically, Rev. Wrong and Moyers have just hurt their own cause. Good.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

I think Moyers is just mad

I think Moyers is just mad that Wright had to run off his mouth at the Press Club and put more gas on the fire, that he on his show tried to extinguish.

It is quite classic liberal/Democrat mantra that the mistakes of the past must be brought up over and over again to explain what people do in the present. As Noel pointed out, this is not typical adult behavoir, but it is the typical liberal viewpoint.

"Liberals"

 I am so disgusted by the Bill Moyers type. No matter what devious, sneaky deed they are up to, their demeanor is always the same. Butter won't melt in their mouths. I've met so many of them over the years. They lie through their teeth but never get exited, never raise their voices. They are truly the devil incarnate and, for me, the worst of the worst hpocrites on earth---the modern "liberals".

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

A monotone moderate voice

A monotone moderate voice tells you everything isia.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Kick this chump off our tax

Kick this chump off our tax funding.

 

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