Last week, NewsBusters reported the peculiar occurrence of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich appearing alongside current Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a global warming ad funded by Nobel Laureate Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection.
Included in this piece was an explanation the former Speaker offered at his website regarding this matter which sparked largely uncomplimentary reactions in the rightosphere as well as from conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh.
Two days later, Gingrich appeared on Fox News's "O'Reilly Factor," and answered Rush (video embedded right):
I disagree fundamentally with Rush on this question because I believe we have a good case to make. We made it last year in contract with the earth. I'm going to keep making it. We, for example, let's invest in the clean coal plant in Illinois and prove you can use America's natural resources without damaging the environment.
Gingrich answered some of his other critics as well; what follows is a partial transcript of this segment.
O'REILLY: Continuing now with former Speaker of the House and current FOX News analyst Newt Gingrich
You may have noticed there are a series of television commercials running, pairing unlikely people like Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson there. The commercials are produced by Al Gore's company, and are designed to bring awareness to environmental concern s. Now, we got a kick out of seeing the latest one. Nancy Pelosi and Mr. Gingrich.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NANCY PELOSI: Hi, I'm Nancy Pelosi, lifelong Democrat and speaker of the house.
NEWT GINGRICH: Hi, I'm Newt Gingrich, lifelong Republican and I used to be speaker.PELOSI: We don't always see eye to eye, do we, Newt?
GINGRICH: No,, but we do agree our country must take action to address climate change.
PELOSI: We need cleaner forms of energy and we need them fast.
GINGRICH: If enough of us demand action from our leaders, we can spark the innovation we need.
PELOSI: Go to wecansolveit.org. Together we can do this.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: You know, she's looking rather adoringly at you. You know, it's kind of like Hansel and Gretel there. You know? You guys should have been in leder hosen. I -- she really looks like she likes you.
GINGRICH: What a way to spend a Friday evening getting you raking me over the coals.
O'REILLY: Tell me about Nancy Pelosi. She won't talk to me. In fact, she tried to get me fired because I made a joke out of San Francisco. They didn't want the military. The next time, there was a terror attack around their own. But tell me about Nancy Pelosi? Do you like her? Do you have a cordial relationship with her?
GINGRICH: She is -- look, she is a very tough, very professional, very wealthy, liberal woman who earned becoming speaker. She -- I knew Nancy back when she was the national committee woman before she came to Congress. She worked very hard as a liberal Democrat. She is about 70 miles to the left of me. And she's a tough professional. We're not personal friends but I respect that she managed to get to be Speaker of the House.
O'REILLY: Honest woman?
GINGRICH: But I want to say something, Bill, that's going to surprise you maybe. I believe conservatives have got to get in the habit of being right on the same stage and being prepared to debate what are the right things to do about the environment. And I don't think standing offstage and yelling no is a strategy.
O'REILLY: Well, that's what you write in your "Real Change." And that's why, you know, I think the book's a bestseller, because we have to engage the issue of, you know, the environment. It's an important I ssue. And everybody should want a cleaner planet.
Now whether God is causing global warming or it's the carbons, nobody knows, but I agree with you.
But let's get back to Pelosi for a moment. She is a very, very left- wing woman, but she represents the most radical part of the country. Do her -- does she really believe in income redistribution and a soft approach to terrorism and all these other things? Does she believe that?
GINGRICH: I suspect she does. There was a terrific book in 2004 by two economist reporters called "The Right Country" in which they explain America. And they compared Speaker Pelosi's district and speaker Hastert's district. And they pointed out that San Francisco is different from almost anywhere else in America.
So, I mean, here's a person who goes back home, all of her major donors are on the left, all of her social activities on the left, all of her conversations are on the left. I suspect, you know, I mean, I happen to think that a lot of that stuff is nuts, but I think that probably she sincerely now is so surrounded by that, that she believes it. I don't think she's insincere.
O'REILLY: But here's - you know, if I could interview her, I would say look, you were very nice to the pope, Mrs. Speaker. And you're a Roman Catholic. You were raised that way. You still go to church.
And now you're the biggest pro-abortion person in the country. I mean, how do you -- what is that? You know, those are the kinds of things with Nancy Pelosi that I'm like I don't get it. I don't understand it at all. Can you reconcile that?
GINGRICH: No, there's not a question of reconciling. There's a whole generation of liberals who made a series of decisions that their secular values were more important than their religious values. And that's where they are. That's who they are.
I mean, I can - I actually respect the integrity of her position, because she would say bluntly that she disagrees with the pope. Now I'll let you get involved in what that means from a Catholic hierarchical perspective. But I think that she is an honest, hardline left wing to the left of normal liberalism. And I think that that is an accurate reflection of the district that she represents. It's very dangerous for the Democratic party because it means that their national leader is probably 40 points to the left of the country.
O'REILLY: All right. But she did like you. I just noticed that on the couch. She had that look. Limbaugh says you were wrong to do this. Gave you jazz and said you're playing into the hands of what Limbaugh considers the enemy. 30 seconds.
GINGRICH: I disagree fundamentally with Rush on this question because I believe we have a good case to make. We made it last year in contract with the earth. I'm going to keep making it. We, for example, let's invest in the clean coal plant in Illinois and prove you can use America's natural resources without damaging the environment.
O'REILLY: All right, Mr. Speaker. "Real Change", "Day of Infamy" coming out. Thanks very much.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.













Comments Policy
Real world environmental science
April 29, 2008 - 18:32 ET by nkviking75I'm all for technology that makes it possible to use fuels like coal and oil with less environmental damage. I'm all for research into alternate forms of energy in search of practical and affordable options. I'm all for more fuel efficient cars, as long as they're also safe. I don't think any sane person is against any of that. While I can't ask him, I'm sure Rush isn't against any of that. But Global Warming is a questionable theory at best, and it's not solid enough theory on which to base wild policy decisions.
The libs like to say we should all agree on things. Well, let's all agree that we want a clean world, but that we won't get there unless our scientists work in the real world.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Exactly. And that's what he
April 29, 2008 - 19:42 ET by ApacheExactly. And that's what he should be saying. But you can't make that point by appearing to side with the moonbats on national television. I already hear "Even Newt believes in global warming why don't you (accept our religion)?". Why can't republicans learn from Bush or even their defeats in the house and senate. You don't make friends by trying to appease the left. You only lose the friends you had and confuse the middle.
Your comments suggest that
May 1, 2008 - 02:38 ET by Not-Steve-DoocyYour comments suggest that all left-leaning people are wrong and you are right. Yes? Or do you call everyone "moonbats" equally?
I am curious though what anyone can learn from Bush other than what NOT to do as a head of state. What friends has Bush lost by "trying to appease the left"? Its more like he's alienating his allies through his own stubborness, and his refusal to appease his own "base" and fellow Republicans, not because he "gives in" to the left. He's only made concessions with Democrats when his stubborness has caused a deadlock among both parties to the point that groups of non-lunatic-fringe Republicans have convinced/urged Bush to make concessions to the Republicans and small ones to the Democrats so the legislature isn't permanently deadlocked.
"In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." -H.L. Mencken
"The only thing older than a 'John McCain is old' joke...is John McCain. That guy is ancient!" - Stephen Colbert
Don't buy it
April 29, 2008 - 18:34 ET by Warner Todd HustonI don't buy it. I think there is only one reason that Newt did this. He is trying to buy the left's good will. He may even believe in the myth of Globaloney.
I think Newt is completely wrong on this one. Rush is right. When Newt appears with Pelosi, his subtleties are not heard. He is broadcasting that he agrees 100% with the globaloney Nazis.... even if he doesn't. He has given them the victory of setting the agenda. His weak protests from the back of the room will be ignored once he's seemed to have accepted their argument.
I am disappointed in Newt here.
Newt's a gonner
April 29, 2008 - 18:48 ET by 10ksnookerI gave up on Newt with this one. He has turned into a loony believer who wants it both ways. Never again will I even bother with what he has to say about anything. Too many times ...
NASA just today declared the PDO warming period over, it began in 1977, and the new cooling cycle started. The cycles last 20-30 years, lately more towards 30.
Meanwhile, the sun remains quite, and the crop failures around the world are accumulating. Today it was frozen asparagus in Washington.
Warm is good, we are getting ready to find out cold is bad.
10k... I agree with
April 29, 2008 - 18:59 ET by bigtimer10k...
I agree with your every word...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Meanwhile, in the Buckeye State...
April 29, 2008 - 20:16 ET by goldenthroatSave the planet? From WHAT? Now Newt has been sucked in by the big lie and AlGore has got to be ROFL! He has succeeded in duping another conservative - it's enough to make you puke!
In the meantime, here in northeast Ohio, we are looking at frost warnings tonight. Last day of April - yeah, right - global warming!
"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" - Firesign Theater
Sigh...
April 30, 2008 - 06:15 ET by Joe C.Any global warming commercial made that doesn't start with, "It's a hoax!" is accepting the premise, and hence, is a capitulation to economic terrorists preying on useful idiots. When will a politician have the stones to come out and say this? Take a stand for the American economy - somebody!
Rush
April 30, 2008 - 16:56 ET by mbuelRush did an excellent job standing up FOR American capitalism yesterday.
Yep
April 29, 2008 - 21:42 ET by opnpt0He's just another talking head that needs to make sure he get's face time. Well he got it...
"But this one goes to 11"
I've never been much of a
April 30, 2008 - 13:16 ET by misterbee241I've never been much of a fan of Newt's anyway. I've seen him as another version of Bill Clinton. And this ad and interview just reinforces my view that politics is just like professional wrestling - bloody each other in the ring then back stage laugh about how they fooled us all, again.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
I disagree fundamentally
April 29, 2008 - 18:35 ET by balboaI disagree fundamentally with Rush on this question because I believe we have a good case to make.
Which is...?
We made it last year in contract with the earth.
I don't know what that means.
I'm VERY Disappointed
April 30, 2008 - 08:12 ET by Seabeach4348I always had respect for Newt Gingrich, but I added his name to the list of people who make me flip the channel the moment I see their faces or hear their voices. It's bad enough that GW Bush sold out on us by signing that bill endorsing the AGW hoax and forcing auto manufacturers to build cars we don't want and to abide by ridiculous goals based on hysteria, not science.
<We made it last year in contract with the earth.>
Crap like this sounds like something the Sierra Club would say, not someone who used to represent and believe in the conservative right......someone whose words I used to respect.
Newt: "She is about 70 miles to the left of me."
April 29, 2008 - 18:40 ET by R D HelmNot anymore, she isn't.
Once again, the inept republicans have assisted the left in gaining another unearned victory.
What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008
Why Newt Gingrich is Wrong
April 29, 2008 - 18:47 ET by PopularTechFirst of all Newt may be educated but in History NOT Science.
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree)
Thus his opinion on this is irrelevant. He is not even a social scientist and thus does nothing but project conservative capitulation to manufactured non-science. If he wants to talk about History I will give him the benefit of the doubt but on the environment? Not a chance. He has a track record of emotional solutions to non-existent environmental problems:
Newt Gingrich on the Environment (The National Center for Public Policy Research)
His latest book and this clear position in this propaganda TV ad is:
"Our country must take action to address climate change" - Newt Gingrich
I don't care how you spin it, that clearly is pushing the hysteria that the climate is changing catastrophically, man is responsible and we can do something about it. There is absolutely no scientific reason to support this position. With this ad there is no other way to take that. Newt made no case in that ad about what he is saying here. He sounds like he is trying to spin it to keep conservatives quiet. The fact is Newt has a history of being a hypocrite and thus this latest ad just seals the deal for me no matter how much spin comes out of him. Is it ironic that he would go on the "no-spin zone"?
Newt Gingrich Out-Greens Al Gore? (FOXNews)
O'Reilly is a scientific illiterate on this and makes conservatives look like idiots when he talks about a "cleaner planet". HELLO! O'Reilly the debate has NOTHING to do with pollution. Everytime he says this he indirectly labels those trying to debate this scientifically to being pro-pollution. This is the biggest part of the propaganda war that environmentalists have won and that is getting people to buy into the no-pollution argument - which DOES NOT EXIST!
"CO2 for different people has different attractions. After all, what is it? - it’s not a pollutant, it’s a product of every living creature’s breathing, it’s the product of all plant respiration, it is essential for plant life and photosynthesis, it’s a product of all industrial burning, it’s a product of driving – I mean, if you ever wanted a leverage point to control everything from exhalation to driving, this would be a dream. So it has a kind of fundamental attractiveness to bureaucratic mentality."
- Richard S. Lindzen Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology MIT
The Kyoto Protocol is a treaty to regulate 'Greenhouse Gases' only:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Methane (CH4)
- Nitrous oxide (N2O) (Laughing Gas, Nitrous, NOS)
- Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs)
- Perfluorocarbons (PFCs)
- Sulphur hexafluoride (SF6)
Car Exhaust consists of:
Harmless:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Nitrogen (N2)
- Water vapor (H2O)
Some Pollutants:
- Carbon monoxide (CO) *
- Hydrocarbons or Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) *
- Nitric oxide (NO) *
- Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) *
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *
* Your car's Catalytic Converter removes about 95% of these pollutants by converting them to Water and Carbon Dioxide (CO2)
Smog consists of:
- Ozone (O3) * (formed from the photochemical reaction of Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) + Hydrocarbons)
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *
* Air Pollution is already regulated in the: 1970 Clean Air Act (Amended: 1977, 1990)
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Speaker Ginrich is naive to
April 29, 2008 - 19:09 ET by jdhawkSpeaker Ginrich is naive to think that the leftists are not using his collaboration with Pelosi as anything but ongoing and future propaganda to further the leftist political goals surrounding the goofy idea that man is responsible for global warming.
Speaker Ginrich has enough political and media clout to get his ideas across without resorting to this collaboration.
One thing that always bugs me about our conservative politicians is that they seem to have to praise the leftist whenever there is some controversy between us and them. Speaker Ginrich does this in the video excerpt. Stop it already. They hardly need coddling.
Newt-tered
April 29, 2008 - 19:09 ET by Mica the MagnificentI believe Newt has more ice cream than fire in his belly.
He's tired, he's reached his pinacle, he wants to be loved by the MSM.
There's more bucks in speaking everywhere than soley at conservative forums.
Mica... Excellent
April 29, 2008 - 19:12 ET by bigtimerMica...
Excellent point...I never thought of that, but now that you posted this I think you are dead on the mark here.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I remember him saying in
April 29, 2008 - 19:23 ET by motherbeltI remember him saying in 1994: "I'm a genuine revolutionary."
<Chris Matthews voice> HAH!
He gave up being right in favor of being popular. Is he by any chance giving advice to John McCain?
When, oh when are conservatives going to learn you can't win anything by being "almost as liberal as a Democrat"!!
Evening to you mb... In
April 29, 2008 - 19:39 ET by bigtimerEvening to you mb...
In answer to your question about Newt giving advice....I feel the answer is yes myself.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Bigtimer, my job is done here!!
April 29, 2008 - 19:25 ET by Mica the MagnificentThat's why I exist, BT, to make sure you thought of everything.
Until then . . up up and away!!!! (lol)
Oh, no. Did you ever have an erection lasting more than four hours? What the hell is that anyway?? - - Sounds like uneducated liberal opinionated mouth-ette Joy Behar panicking her uneducated liberal female audience.
LOL Mica... You are soooo
April 29, 2008 - 19:37 ET by bigtimerLOL Mica...
You are soooo bad.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Yes, Bigtimer. . .
April 29, 2008 - 19:50 ET by Mica the MagnificentThat's why I exist, bt, so you never forget what soooo bad is. . .
Warning, bt: Please do not respond to this post for it will only result in me answering it with a similar lame comment .
Mica... Testing....Testing
April 29, 2008 - 23:06 ET by bigtimerMica...
Testing....Testing...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
The planet is fine
April 29, 2008 - 19:12 ET by eaglescout1998This mass hysteria over global warming reminds me of a bit by comedian George Carlin:
"The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat?"
Newt is wrong
April 29, 2008 - 19:15 ET by paulnashtn"Newt Gingrich appearing alongside current Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a global warming ad"
There is a debate as to whether there is actually now any global warming at all, then there is a MAJOR debate about if there is in fact global warming, IF it is man made.
To appear with Ms Pelosi, Newt accepts the premise of global warming and SEEMS to accept the premise of man-made global warming. If he was promoting pollution control he sure picked a strange way(and words) to do it
VOTE REPUBLICAN
I think Newt, who was a
April 29, 2008 - 19:36 ET by Chris NormanI think Newt, who was a historian, now sees himself as a "futurist" - who thinks "bigger" than everyone else now. This "bigger" mindset usually leads to the left...
"I believe in, like, the
April 29, 2008 - 19:54 ET by Jack BauerSo, philosophically, he's a
April 29, 2008 - 20:06 ET by Chris NormanSo, philosophically, he's a Whitney Houstonian* now?
*"I believe the children are our future..."
Ha Chris... So,
April 29, 2008 - 20:09 ET by Jack BauerHa Chris...
Only if that makes Pelosi his Bobby Brown.
Yeah, they both lead to
April 29, 2008 - 20:21 ET by Chris NormanYeah, they both lead to nothin' but trouble.
I always thought the second line of that song should be, " I also believe that the Pope is a Catholic..."
Newt Gingrich: Major league dushbag
April 29, 2008 - 20:04 ET by ArchConservativeNewtie, you belicve climate change is our fault and probably that carbon credits are the way to go, along with hybrid this and "green conservative" BS there. You are a liberal. You and McCain can go off and frolic in the damned tulips together. Your book? I burned it and released CO2 into the atmosphere. Go to hell.
You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.
THis guy kills me every
April 29, 2008 - 21:42 ET by hookrightTHis guy kills me every time. He talks wells, on certain issues at least, but was a lousy House manager. Now he states "We, for example, let's invest in the clean coal plant in Illinois and prove you can use America's natural resources without damaging the environment."
But clean coal (low sulfur coal) has been in place for the past, at least, 10 years. I think he loves being admired by the liberal media. Nighttime is coming for those of us on the right.
Maybe next Newt can appear
April 29, 2008 - 21:55 ET by ckc1227Maybe next Newt can appear in an ad with Rosie O'Donnnel condemning President Bush for attacking America on 9/11 so Conservatives can sit at the table of ideas when discussing how to solve the problem of global terrorism.
Seriously, what a stupid, stupid excuse from such an intelligent man.
Newt's next appearance?
April 30, 2008 - 06:16 ET by AgnosticI missed the last part of Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich's interview (book promotion) with Alan Colmes and I have to say that Newt is now working as a Democrat. He contorted himself and the conversation into helping Senator Obama distance himself from the Reverend Wright, gave accolades for the leadership qualities of Senator Obama and generally fell all over himself to ooze out the qualities of the Democrat front runner.
Even Colmes was not able to keep up with Newt's ability to change negatives for Obama into positives; proving that Newt still has a sharp, intelligent mind that can easily contend with his political enemies. It is scary that conservatives specifically and Republicans in general now seem to be his targets in a circumlocutionary manner.
GINGRICH
April 29, 2008 - 22:43 ET by 2SloWhat a disgusting disappointment…good by Newt.
I value your opinion.
April 29, 2008 - 22:49 ET by KarmaNoel,
In last week's article you described Newts' mind as "brilliant". I have a great deal of respect for you and, for years, next to nothing for Newt. Do you think he has, yet to be exposed, brilliance on this issue, or are we seeing his true take on AGW. What's your gut feeling on this?
power trip
April 29, 2008 - 23:20 ET by wiley catGreat points and observations, but almost everybody is trying to "baby" Newt and give him the "benefit of the doubt", even those who are critical.
Whatever he wants to do personally to minister to radical liberals is fine with me, but he is sabotaging a productive way of life by his "let's not argue" act, and to what end?
I am sad to say I don't believe he deserves it (benefit of doubt). Does he love the spotlight (already noted)? Does he hunger for power or prestige? Maybe he has already started believing his own press, both that of the MSM and his own creation.
Can a Ph.D in Modern European History not know what his opponents are like? Can he not know that they lie without compunction and that their goal is our subjection?
The left is just going to continue promoting the big lie of Man-made Global Warming everywhere possible as if no one has challenged them, and in truth, too few people in positions of leadership and influence have done so.
Newt has obviously lost his taste for standing up for what is right. George Bush has just disappeared when it comes to leadership on any issue other than prosecution of the Iraq war (and thank God for that) and some high-profile issues of budget.
Conservative talk show hosts, including Rush, Sean, Glenn, Mark, and other internet news and blog sites, are carrying the banner almost alone. They have substantially educated those who want to know the truth, but there appear to be few on the political scene in a position of influence who will forcefully contradict those who are pretending to have already fashioned the Emperor's New Clothes "out of whole cloth", as the saying goes.
The clearest voice debunking Global Warming that I know of, in a position of leadership, is Vaclav Klaus (here and here), the current President of the Czechoslovakian Republic. Needless to say, he gets little press coverage here. He has lived Modern European History and knows where it has lead and is leading. Here's hoping he is joined by a flood of influential voices before too long (and that they will get accurate and extensive coverage).
There is NO "anthropogenic" Global Warming. NONE.
wc... I caught him on
April 29, 2008 - 23:40 ET by bigtimerwc...
I caught him on Beck's show I think it was...more people should book him...more people should listen...but then again that isn't the agenda and we can't have that...not something as simple as a bothersome President like Vaclav Klaus from some country somewhere else ...silly people.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Real Change
April 30, 2008 - 00:40 ET by TeddyNewtered By ManBearPig & Co.
Gingrich
April 30, 2008 - 01:03 ET by ronsterNewt wins "Dope of the month Award" for allying himself with Gore and Pelosi. These clones are not reasonable or convertible. Their religion is liberalism and anthropogenic global warming. Gingrich only proves that some part of him supports their fanatic quest. A pursuit that's wrecking our economy and turning us into a third world country.
Newt
April 30, 2008 - 01:26 ET by jefflebowskiHe got turned into a newt and didn't get better!
Newt Gingrich should go away. I'm sick of his smarmy mug every time I turn on Fox. He kissed up to the Clintoons last year and now Pelosi. What a tool!
Jeff Lebowski
I'm beginning to think that
April 30, 2008 - 11:51 ET by Tim the EnchanterI'm beginning to think that "Newt" is short for "Neutered"
Sir Bedevere:
What makes you think she's a witch?
Peasant 3:
Well, she turned me into a newt!
Sir Bedevere:
A newt?
Peasant 3:
[meekly after a long pause] ... I got better.
Crowd:
[shouts] Burn her anyway!
Newt's Premise
April 30, 2008 - 06:35 ET by Chivalrous1_usIs just wrong. It's a hoax in my opinion, and no one loves money more than government.
Is "global warming" happening. Maybe.
Is "man-made global warming" happening. Less than maybe.
One thing is for sure. Work to being able to afford "carbon offsets" people, or you're asses are going to be cleaned out by the Feds, a la "Contract With Earth/Gaia Worship" in the next decade.
Coal, clean burning or not, comes from a mountain. These libs, and "conservatives" don't want coal or clean-coal technology, what they're digging for is the mountain to fall on them. That's what you get when you plumb the depths of common men's and women's patience long enough.
I for one cannot afford "carbon offsets". Nor do I intend on purchasing any should a sudden windfall come my way. I'll tell you something, if the Feds keep this burn your food, carbon offset, make the filthy rich richer, tax the worker, and employer more, change a lightbulb or drive a "hybrid" for Mother Earth Energy policy, the only carbon they'll have to be concerned about is the soot from a sacked DC.
Patience like oil is not limitless.
Chivalry Is Not Dead
Environmentalists want to Destroy the Middle Class
April 30, 2008 - 12:50 ET by PopularTechThese maniacs want to add carbon taxes to gasoline, your electrical and your heating bills. They want to force you to move into a smaller home (preferably an apartment in a city), replace your cars and trucks with hybrids and effectively destroy everything the middle class has worked for. Do you think higher energy costs will really effect the rich? Do you think those on welfare care? Nope, everyone needs to wake up and realize that Carbon Taxes or Cap and Trade will cripple the economy and effectively destroy the middle class as we know it:
America Must Reject Global Warming 'De-Stimulus' Bill (United States Senator James Inhofe)
Cap-and-Trade Could Cost the Average Family $10,800 in Lost Income (US Newswire)
If you do not want higher energy prices tell your congressmen to vote against ALL global warming or CO2 regulation.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
"And I don't think standing
April 30, 2008 - 08:11 ET by rimsky"And I don't think standing offstage and yelling no is a strategy."
I am insulted by this statement, as all should be who refuse to kneel at the AGW alter. No sir, Mr. Gingrich, I'm not going to genuflect to the almighty Algore and his snake oil marketing, and neither should you! I'm threw with this guy!
Newt who?
April 30, 2008 - 08:40 ET by owr084Newt, you are dead to me. You squandered everything you achieved in 1994 and took a fling with someone other than your wife. Why can't you just fade away in retirement somewhere?
There is no doubt that we
April 30, 2008 - 10:16 ET by mattmThere is no doubt that we can use our natural resources and protect the environment at the same time, and have it be cost effective and beneficial to consumers.
BUT, the mistake Newt is making is in accepting the false premises of the Left, and sidling up to them. All that does is give them credibility they don't deserve, which makes it more difficult to get the right solutions enacted.
We don't need the Left to solve energy/environment issues, in fact, they are the problem. So why join them?
Sorry Newt, I'm not buying your excuses - or your book.
Newt has the missed the
April 30, 2008 - 10:46 ET by dscottNewt has the missed the critical point that by collaborating with the left you also share the blame when things go wrong, horribly wrong. I submit the left already saw the handwriting on the wall for the run up in food prices and potentially starving the third world. So in order to not take the blame, they decided to hoodwink RINOs into bipartisanship by making the claim they would have a say in how we went "Green". So how do you blame the left for murdering millions of poor people if the right also signed onto the idea of biofuel??? The answer will be "we" unintentionally contributed to this problem and "we" accept "our" responsibility to do something about it. You see, no one is to blame because everyone participated. If you collaborate with the perpetrators you are equally guilty of the crime! To participate is to validate.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
You'd think Newt would have
April 30, 2008 - 13:14 ET by mattmYou'd think Newt would have learned to distrust them after being so utterly vilified, mistreated and browbeaten by the Left for all those years....
Newt suffers from a form of
April 30, 2008 - 13:25 ET by dscottNewt suffers from a form of Battered Spouse Syndrome apparently.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Gingrich
April 30, 2008 - 11:17 ET by iveseenitallThere are still millions of true conservatives left in this nation. They are being completely ignored. Gingrich, McCain, et.al. have given into the left. They no longer stand for real solutions, based on reality. Nonetheless, we are correct in what we say. For example, drilling in our own backyard, continuing to fight the terrorists, stopping government handouts, bringing back some standards in the schools, stopping or at least limiting abortions, stopping the illegals from living here, lowering taxes, etc. Look at this "campaign"; it's a freaking joke, a schoolboard election, a barroom brawl. Conservatism is the answer. Instead we veer to the left to enrich the few, like Gingrich, Pelosi, the MSM, Algore, the Congress, etc. "The masses are asses" and they know it. The average America can count himself as one of the many lambs to slaughter. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Conservatism has been abandoned by the GOP because...
May 2, 2008 - 07:33 ET by BritcomConservatism has been abandoned by the GOP because it no longer supports the RINO / NeoCon / CFR / NWO / NAU / NAFTA / Globalist / Statist / "International Bankers'" agenda. The RINOs and many of the Liberals still support that agenda.
The conservatives have just been told to take their Constitution, their Founding Father's wisdom, their Judeo/Christian culture, and their family values, and go sit in the back of the bus for the rest of the century while they (the globalists) remake the world's political systems in their image using our American tax dollars (soon to be Ameros), Canadian natural resources, and Mexican labor.
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
Newt's argument is disingenuous poppycock.
April 30, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Matthew VadumNewt's argument is disingenuous poppycock.
He said in the "O'Reilly" clip that conservatives standing off-stage shouting "no!" on environmental issues is not a strategy. This is an unfair caricature of conservative positions on environmental issues and is unworthy of the former Speaker of the House. Conservatives can promote their own perspectives on environmental issues in venues of their own choosing without collaborating with the enemy, as Newt is doing. By appearing in an ad with Nancy Pelosi (for Al Gore's group the Alliance for Climate Protection), Newt is conceding the underlying premises of arguments advanced by Gore's group and the other hard-left enviro crazies.
Newt is effectively admitting the truth of the most spectacular fantasies of the enviro-left, i.e., that the environment is in crisis, that humans are to blame, and that humans --especially Americans-- are going to have to suffer in order for the environment to be cleaned up.
Newt's in this for Newt. He's not being straight with conservatives and he should be ashamed of himself.
—Matthew Vadum is Editor of Organization Trends and Foundation Watch, two monthly newsletters published by Capital Research Center
Newt
April 30, 2008 - 11:21 ET by iveseenitall"Newt's in this for Newt." You've got that right, Matthew Vadum.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
newt
April 30, 2008 - 11:32 ET by candanceAbout six weeks ago I heard Newt being interviewed by Sean Hannity and I knew then he was shifting to the left. He believes that libs wil inevitably get their way and doesn't want to be stuck in the "kiddie pool" with Limbaugh and Coulter.
Us conservies might as well give it up and get used to expensive gas and power rations. With Gingrich, McCain, Schwarzeneggar, Bloomberg, and Giuliani all going along with this, we've no one to speak for us except talk radio.
and the RINO heard just gets
April 30, 2008 - 13:10 ET by USA4freedomand the RINO heard just gets bigger and bigger....
for me.. all of you can go over to the Democratic side, or we will leave, at this point I don't care!
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
Newt the Enviro-wacko. .
April 30, 2008 - 16:07 ET by sam.i.amWashington Post: What is the biggest environmental threat that the U.S. faces?
Newt Gingrich: I think the biggest environmental threat to the U.S. is an energy strategy that is bad for the environment, economy and national security. It relies on petroleum as the primary source of transportation. That increases carbon loading of the atmosphere, sends dollars overseas and places the U.S. economy at risk to Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Russia. In terms of quality of life I'm as concerned about biodiversity as about global warming, and the strategies for both of those help both problems, because reforestation and other tactics benefit carbon sequestration and reverse the spread of deserts -- there are many more square miles today than their were 40 years ago. The right kind of strategy for reclaiming marginal land is both good for carbon, good for biodiversity and improves the quality of life. If you look at Israel and South Korea and you look at how much they have improved their environment in the past 50 years, it's startling the difference that reforestation has made compared with their neighbors.
This is a conservative today?
I don't think so!
Newt's Crisis
May 1, 2008 - 02:15 ET by wiley catBetween isit and mv and candance and sam, it looks like most of the issues have been addressed and the facts brought out (in the most recent posts, not meaning to slight all the great comments) as to Newt's shift to the left and it's contribution to the advancement of the Global Warming offensive. The Global Harming from Global Warming Lie is one of the primary and most dangerous threats to the economic well-being of U.S. citizens at this time.
(The other is the multi-tentacled monster that encompasses border security, enforcing the law for illegal immigrants, dealing with the Sanctuary movement boobs, reversing the negative impacts of NAFTA and preventing the many losses and compromises implied in the push for the NAU. Wonder if Newt will be coming out for Sanctuary Cities next?)
It sounds to me like Newt has fallen in love with the pseudo-intellectualism of the left, all those "insider" words you can use to describe nothing and make it sound like something. I think he's lost his mojo (texas talk), what do you think?
The other term that comes to mind is "too smart by half". Newt gives the impression that either he is a man who believes that he has lost something, or missed something, in life, and he hasn't found it yet, and so he is "desperately seeking Susan" (or maybe he found her, and now he's just looking for his mind)?
If that's not it, maybe he's having a late fling at a "second childhood", and it's just more fun to deal with things that aren't really tied down or rooted in reality, and mess around with sim-scientific ideas just because they sound good and you can say they mean anything you want them to.
I will have to say it makes me really sad to see someone who used to be a brilliant thinker, who for one reason or the other has completely, and I do mean completely, deserted principle and truth for ...what?
We do lack "enough" principled, courageous and aggressive political leaders to defend against these massive offensives by the radical left. (Texas has one stellar and consistent leader in Sen. John Cornyn.) One of the few strategies we have left is to strengthen State parties and find and elect men with this type of leadership ability to both State and National office, and regain control of the House and Senate. Another is, as bt observed (thanks), men like Czech President Vaclav Klaus should be receiving requests from all over the country, and he should be getting more interviews and exposure than just on Glenn Beck, as he is an extremely clear and effective voice in countering the propaganda of global warming, and showing how that hoax is tied to socialist goals.
Our battle "in the field" is to begin to "clear the smoke" from the air around the "good intentioners", with the truth about both AGW and Illegal Immigration. Those are the "well-meaning" people who "just want peace" and "don't want any arguments", who make up a good portion of the liberals following.
One things for sure, Newt will not be leading that charge, no matter how many books he writes.
There is NO "anthropogenic" Global Warming. NONE.
Rather than assuming NG
May 1, 2008 - 08:37 ET by Giles WinterbourneRather than assuming NG is becoming a liberal because he's smart / clever enough to see which side of the bread is getting buttered, it might make more sense to consider that he's smart enough, and has the critical thinking skills to analyze the scientific data and make an informed decision based on the evidence.
Bush rhetoric on energy strays from the facts (AP report on recent Bush press conference)
IPCC- Summary for Policy Makers - Physical Science Basis
The Age of Consequences: The Foreign Policy and National Security Implications of Global Climate Change (CSIS)
"Denialism is the employment of rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of argument or legitimate debate, when in actuality there is none." Mark Hoofnagle Denialism Blog
"The warming that has already occurred, the positive feedbacks that have been set in motion, and the additional warming in the pipeline together have brought us to the precipice of a planetary tipping point." Hansen Tipping Point
Scientists listed as 'co-authors' of a Heartland report demanding their names be taken off the list. (DeSmogBlog)
"and has the critical
May 1, 2008 - 10:25 ET by NL207"and has the critical thinking skills to analyze the scientific data and make an informed decision based on the evidence"
What criticial thinking skills did Gingrich display? As I read his explanation of his present position, it is based 100% on politics and 0% on science. Hey ... isn't that just like YOUR position?
Gingrich has argued that some government regulation is now politically inevitable. Therefore, conservatives, or more correctly, political pragmatists like Gingrich, should accept this in order to have a voice at the table when these regulations and government meddling are created.
"In a damage control letter, Newt claims he is merely trying to engage the climate debate and keep the right relevant, without granting the left's premise "that we have conclusive proof of global warming [or] that humans are at the center of it."
He insists his purpose in doing the ads with Pelosi is to advance "a Green Conservatism that wants to use science, technology, innovation, entrepreneurs, and prizes to find a way to creatively invent the kind of environmental future we all want to live in." "
Newt is a fool. Even if he is at the table, he isn't going to have any say whatever about what kind of fascism is imposed. When good negotiates with evil, evil always prevails.
I see your usual links to the discredited James Hansen & Co. This guy got it wrong. He made predictions that were incorrect. His models are incorrect representations of nature. His credibility as a climate forecaster is near zero.
I also see you are still avoiding any direct discussion of the "science" behind the AGW scare campaign. Could this be because such "science" does not now sustain arguiments for fascist governmental intervention?
You have claimed to be a scientific peer-reviewer in the past. You can't even successfully take on an amatuer debater like me on this topic on a blog. How are you going to effectively peer review anything more complicated than a comic book?
This guy got it
May 1, 2008 - 11:59 ET by dscottThis guy got it wrong. He made predictions that were incorrect. His models are incorrect representations of nature. His credibility as a climate forecaster is near zero.
Reminds me of an old, common sense directive from the OT:
Deuteronomy 18
21"You may say in your heart, 'How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'
22"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Citeless
May 2, 2008 - 00:18 ET by Giles WinterbourneCiteless (other than a cite to an opinion piece without a cite for the quoted letter).
and jumping to personal insult
then you wonder why there isn't a debate......
Yeah, its 'politically motivated'; just like emission legislation and safety legislation ....
I think I suggested you take the science arguments to a science site and see how they go there.
Giles Runs and Hides
May 2, 2008 - 01:31 ET by PopularTechGiles, surely you can debate the so called "science" you so rabidly defend? Why run and hide? Did your how to talk to skeptics guides run out of answers when confronted with real questions?
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Enviropolitical Cultism
May 2, 2008 - 06:51 ET by BritcomAnd perhaps someone will take the time to show us exactly why we should consider that all of the so called "science" that the IPCC and Al Gore and the MSM breathlessly preach incessantly about deserves to be called science rather than quackery, lunacy and enviropolitical cultism.
The IPCC's conclusions can only be considered science if you don't know what the meaning of the word "science" is; and this is exactly what the UN sponsored IPCC clowns hope the public doesn't know.
Global Warming is dead as a political issue now that the public has caught onto the truth that climate doesn't drive hurricanes like Katrina at all, the ocean's currents do.
It's called El Niño/La Niña and it isn't affected by CO2, and it certainly isn't caused by man.
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Communist vs. Statist '08
Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"
There is no debate because
May 2, 2008 - 02:22 ET by NL207There is no debate because you are simply incapable of such yourself.
As for citations, they are only required when facts not in common knowledge are introduced. For example, IPCC and GISS have both predicted in 2001 this planet should see a minimum of .14 and a maximum of .58 degree per decade warming. The specifics of the prediction were for the entire century. This has been cited many times here from the IPCC itself and is even found on Wikipedia. This is not a mystery. It is common knowledge.
It is also common knowledge this prediction failed over the last decade. The observed warming fell short of the above window, particularly over the last three years. You yourself produced references that showed this. Others have done the same. This too, is now common knowledge.
The conlcusion that both IPCC and James Hansen of GISS made incorrect predictions for the last decade is inescapable. They overestimated warming.
Go back to peer-reviewing your comic books.
Let your science friends come here to a neutral site where they don't control the board. Or better, let those computer modelers at realclimate.org try their hand on co2science. I don't think they will fare nearly as well as you suppose.
Oh, and I almost forgot: Thanks for tacitly conceding the point about Gingrich's reasons for accepting the governmental regulatory argument without accepting the lefts' premise that AGW is a fact. Point mine once again.
Nope
May 2, 2008 - 02:51 ET by Giles Winterbourne"As for citations, they are only required when facts not in common knowledge are introduced. "
Literature review, cite everything. Proving a point, cite data sources for it. To show the quality of the resource and the research. In general, 'common knowledge' is surprisingly small when writing from research. Certainly the numbers from IPCC wouldn't be. Maybe a research class is in order.
Glad to see that you consider personal insults a viable way to prove your point.
And your 'neutral site' comment will go without comment..... Beyond that, I'd look at the actual peer reviewed, published research. Which is why it isn't worth arguing the science here.
Gingrich's statements stand on their own; your interpretation of them is yours. Your conclusions are framed from an assumption that there is no AGW and that Gingrich couldn't be thinking beyond political expediency. I posited that he had actually done research and came to a rational conclusion. There was no 'tacit concession'.
The peer-reviewed published
May 2, 2008 - 02:56 ET by NL207The peer-reviewed published research on the topic of Anthropogenic Global Warming is entirely inconclusive at the present time and I think you know this to be true. The only thing that can be said for certain is that, by the definition of the climate system, Humans must be making some contribution to the climate because Humans are included as a part of the system.
If you think it truly isn't worth debating science here then maybe you should expect just the sort of welcome you receive. You walk in here and smear your intellectual feces all over the board, claim it is unassailable because you've provided some links to a few scientists on the government payroll, refuse to debate the science and then you say you are dissappointed when posters make negati\ve appraisals of your intelligence, integrity, etc.
Continue to duck the debate; continue to confirm everything conservatives believe about intellectual dishonesty amongst AGW proponents.
Gingrich publicly stated in writing why he took the position he did, and it had nothing whatever to do with science. His position was based on REAPOLITIK. I even provided a link, which you conveniently ignore. No interpretation is necessary. gingrich explained himself, and your posit is in conflict with his explanation.
Inconclusive research?
May 2, 2008 - 15:46 ET by Giles Winterbourne"The peer-reviewed published research on the topic of Anthropogenic Global Warming is entirely inconclusive at the present time...."
Well, that would be a perfect example of needing to cite resources that support a conclusion that is so at odds with the general consensus.Or at the very least, a far more thorough discussion why you think so.
"Gingrich publicly stated in writing..." Where? The link you gave was to an opinion piece that quoted a letter supposedly sent out by Gingrich to supporters. There was no link either in the op piece or your post to the actual letter.
It is quite odd that someone as skilled in politics would use such a transparent ruse just to attempt to garner some percentage points of support knowing that any document analysis would belie his actions. So, while the conservatives might want to disown him for his AGW position, it makes more sense that he acted on convictions based on research with quality data.
Any debate can be civil; throwing out inane insults doesn't improve the quality of the conversation and generally speaks ill of the writer. Feel free to continue if that is your preferred method of discourse.
Inconclusive. Period.
May 2, 2008 - 17:00 ET by NL207Inconclusive. Period. Were it otherwise, this campaign of intimidation and political correctness in the relevant academic disciplines would not be going on. Were it otherwise, Gore would not need to engage in his blatant truth-stretching and outright distortions to sell this AGW garbage to the unsuspecting public.
Don't like the reference to Gingrich's communications? You haven't produced anything other than proof by anal extraction. You lose.
Now, I will employ one of YOUR team's favorite tactics:
(1) How much have you invested in green powers sources, carbon trading schemes and other similar investments that would, in a free and unregulated market, enjoy zero success, but in a highly regulated 'market' where government dictates value, will propser?
(2) Do you believe that the objectivity of 'scientists' at GISS whose livelihoods depend almost entirely upon government grants to investigate anthropogenic global warming is not compromised? If so, isn't this a bit naive? What would happen to those grants if it were concluded that human contributions to natural climate change were small in comparison to the natural component? Do you think for one moment the Congress would continue to fund such research at the levels it does today? I don't. Do you seriously believe the aforementioned researchers don't know and believe this?
Don't you just love attacks on personal integrity of researchers? This is so ingrained in your team there are actually entire websites devoted to this. These 'activists'. This enlightened academician. More activists. Notice these pundits think that only private money can corrupt. Apparently public money does not have a corrupting influence on the hearts of those who seek it unless they are from Haliburton!
Gingrich, again
May 2, 2008 - 18:59 ET by Giles Winterbourne"Were it otherwise, this campaign of intimidation and political correctness in the relevant academic disciplines would not be going on."
Yet another example of the need to cite information that informs one's thinking.
Since the 'Gingrich letter' isn't provided, there isn't a source (at least yet) for the quote. To make an assumption that he did a