Does it seem the ultimate of political ironies that media are using the same strategy that helped Bill Clinton win the White House in 1992 to prevent him and his wife from returning to the Oval Office in 2009? After all, even people that haven't been around the political block a few times should certainly find the following all too predictable press strategy all too familiar (picture courtesy Times Online):
- A well-esteemed liberal candidate is caught in some controversy that could derail his chances of attaining the office he seeks.
- Media initially pounce all over the typically salacious tidbit, knocking said candidate off his seemingly one-way express elevator straight to the political penthouse.
- Candidate drops in the polls, campaign seems doomed, and media come to the rescue in the nick of time just before the train runs over the proverbial damsel in distress.
Sound familiar?
Well, in case it doesn't, this is largely what happened to Democrat presidential candidate Bill Clinton when scandals in early 1992 rocked his campaign to the very core, one involving a 12-year affair with Gennifer Flowers, another his evasion of the draft.
Clinton dropped nearly twenty points in the polls following these revelations, but ended up, in the long-run, saved by a sycophantic media that quickly brushed aside these inconvenient truths as something the electorate shouldn't be concerned with.
Move along...nothing to see here!
Ironically, sixteen years later, the press have a new idol, and are using this same playbook to make Barack Obama's long-time connection to an anti-American, hate-mongering pastor as irrelevant as adultery and draft evasion were in 1992.
Of course, this comes weeks after a certain amount of media focus on the controversial statements of Rev. Jeremiah Wright triggered losses and poor showings by Obama in key primaries thereby threatening his nomination.
True to form, the press have flip-flopped their loyalties so much so that if Obama wins the White House, history might view as the turning point an April 25, 2008, lovefest between Wright and Bill Moyers much as posterity looks upon the January 26, 1992, "60 Minutes" appearance by the Clintons as their political salvation.
Before you think this too cynical, consider the fortuity of Wright being on PBS three days after Obama's horrible showing in the Pennsylvania primaries, two days before Wright's speech in front of the NAACP, and three days before his appearance at the National Press Club.
If you think these events transpiring so chronologically proximate is mere happenstance, you probably also believe Bill Clinton never inhaled marijuana, which, by the way, was the third revelation to rock his campaign in early 1992 that media nicely explained in a fashion that enough voters would eventually be unconcerned.
In the end, that's what's happening now with Rev. Wright, and the press are smack-dab in the middle of his makeover.
Why? Because media have been in Obama's tank since he gave a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and they clearly just don't like Hillary.
Or, at the very least, they believe her negatives make it more difficult for her to beat McCain, and after helping the Democrats take back both chambers of Congress in 2006, the press will do everything in their power to get their candidate in the White House in 2009.
As such, after seeing Hillary cling her way back into this race in Pennsylvania last Tuesday, media realized they'd better do something, and do it fast.
This was especially important when the Pennsylvania exit polls indicated an extreme racial divide in voting patterns, with 63 percent of whites opting for Hillary, and nineteen percent saying that race was an important factor in their decision.
Further complicating matters was the release of a Newsweek poll on Saturday finding "Four in 10 registered voters (41 percent) say they have a less favorable opinion of Obama based on his association with his former pastor, Wright."
With this in mind, it shouldn't be at all surprising that media gave Wright fabulous reviews for his speech to the NAACP in Detroit Sunday evening.
And, although the early word on the Reverend's performance in front of the National Press Club Monday seems less enthusiastic, it remains to be seen how this is covered on television the rest of the day, and in the print media tomorrow.
In fact, as my colleague Matthew Balan reported Monday, CNN's senior political analyst David Gergen is calling for the media to "move on" and stop giving Wright so much attention:
And it takes attention away -- we have huge, huge problems facing this country. The candidates are increasingly coming down on opposite sides. We're having no discussion of that. Instead, we're off on this sideshow, which is -- and I think that, you know, this good preacher, I'm sure he's a fine man, and if he had taken Bill Moyers on a walking tour of his parish, and shown people the good works that church was doing, you know, how it is helping the hungry, how it is looking after young kids, and the many other good things that church does -- that would have been totally appropriate. But to be on this publicity blitz, when we have to listen to his varied views, you know, I think it's time for him to get off the stage and frankly, for the media, I suggest, to move on.
You think Gergen would have said this if Wright did a good job on Monday?
On the other hand, it is still possible the Obama-loving media will figure out a way to spin what happened at the Press Club Monday in a fashion that evokes liberal guilt much as what my colleague Justin McCarthy reported transpired on today's "The View":
Are Reverend Jeremiah Wright's comments shouting "God damn America" comparable to Rosa Parks famous refusal to give up her seat? According to "The View's" Sherri Shepherd it is. Discussing Wright on the April 28 edition, Shepherd, with Joy Behar's backing, called Wright's anger "righteous" and compared it to Rosa Parks' famous protest.
Imagine that. Now he's Rosa Parks.
Maybe more telling, in a potential foreshadowing of how the print media will cover this speech, a New York Times article, apparently to be published Tuesday but already available on the Internet, also defended the pastor (emphasis added):
Attacks on him are really attacks on the black church, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. said in a speech to the National Press Club in Washington on Monday, in which he mounted a spirited defense of views and sermons that have become an issue in the presidential campaign because Senator Barack Obama attended his church for many years.
Mr. Wright told the press club audience that the black church in America grew out of the oppression of black people, and that his sermons reflected that struggle.
That'll tug at some white, liberal heart-strings, dontcha think?
That said, though the position press members will take concerning his most recent speech might still be undetermined, the dye is cast: the goal now is to present the Reverend in as favorable a light as possible while suggesting that all this attention upon him is distracting the voters from more important issues facing the nation.
Of course, this exactly what we were told sixteen years ago about Bill Clinton's adultery, draft evasion, and pot-smoking.
Move along...nothing to see here!
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If only the Rev. could!
April 28, 2008 - 16:40 ET by HumblepieIf only the Rev. could keep his mouth shut for the next seven months is the ultimate question. There is enough time to whitewash these events so that it will not be a major factor come November. If McCain or the Republican Party should bring it up later it will only unleash a media storm to ensure the public perception that conserv's are loony. But, the major IF is, can Rev. Wright keep his mouth shut and can Obambi control him for that long?
During this time with political correctness at its zenith, I reserve the right to let you know you're an idiot.
Sixteen years ago there
April 28, 2008 - 16:47 ET by bigtimerSixteen years ago there wasn't the internet like there is now either or Fox.
We'll see if this makes a difference or not...despite the leftist talking heads who are in the tank for their messiah.
This has been infuriating what Wright has said... and if Obama doesn't come out and disown him....IMO he is done as far as any Prez. notion....I do not care at this point who wins the general for the dems...just having fun watching this all...they are killing their party and themselves.
I've listened to all of this for two days...I can't take the spin much more....I just don't think it will work to make him President...no matter how hard the talking heads try.
Btw...I just heard Matthews try to compare Romney and the spin off branch that is in the news to a man that has been going to his guys sermons for twenty years....he is nuts...there is no comparison.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
big....I agree....
April 28, 2008 - 18:08 ET by BEGRUNTThings are much different now. Noel, you have a point, and it comes down to how much spin will the average american swollow. I think (hope) people have wised up considering the Clinton years and ridiculous things like what "is " "is" ....etc. Only time will tell. Hopefully the american people take the "fool me once" attitude, and wont allow this farce to continue.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Noel, I think we are seeing the beginning of the end for Obama.
April 28, 2008 - 17:18 ET by R D HelmMuch has changed in the last sixteen years. White "guilt," when used as a weapon, doesn't carry the same influence it once did. There was no real internet then, other than the fledgling Usenet. Also, people were far more trusting of the MSM than they are today.
I agree that they are using the identical tactics that were used to put Bill Clinton in the White House in '92, but I believe they will fail this time around, for one very simple reason:
Barack Obama is about as unelectable for the presidency as one can possibly be.
Aside from his questionable associations with "Rev." Wright, that former terrorist bomb-thrower guy Ayers, as well as some others, he is totally unqualified for the office he is seeking. Had it not been for the implosion of his opponents, he would not have even been elected to the Senate, which is his only real "accomplisment" to speak of.
Now, I realize that won't matter to many of the American Idol voters out there, but, at the end of the day, I don't see many middle-Americans pulling the lever for Obama on election day, no matter what they tell the exit pollsters.
As I said elsewhere earlier today, I think many dems are starting to come down with buyer's remorse when it comes to this guy. I think they are truly scared. I would be.
Even if McCain runs the sort of weak, gutless campaign it appears he is going to, Obama, assuming he is the actual dem nominee (and I am beginning to doubt this) will still be road-kill come election day.
Theme for Election '08: Who cares?
Hey RD... Going to be
April 28, 2008 - 17:28 ET by bigtimerHey RD...
Going to be very interesting what happens on next Tues. in the primaries... eh?
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
bt, it will be at that.
April 28, 2008 - 17:38 ET by R D HelmEspecially now that people are starting to pay more attention to Obama then they previously did. Something tells me many aren't liking what they are seeing.
I don't think the MSM, no matter how hard they try, will be successful at rehabilitating "Rev." Wright in the eyes of middle Americans.
Also, I think its far too late for Obama to denounce this clown, too. A twenty-year association cannot be dismissed with the wave of a hand.
Theme for Election '08: Who cares?
RD... One thing about
April 28, 2008 - 17:40 ET by bigtimerRD...
One thing about it...It's gonna' be a long hot summer....(shhh don't tell algore that the seasons change...heheheee)
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
No surprises here...they're all in lockstep now
April 28, 2008 - 17:25 ET by PewahThe eventual forgiving and then promotion of Rev. Wright by the left-wing pundits and MSM was predictable from the get-go. While there were a few in the media who initially were curious about the remarks and pushed for an explanation, they are now all in lock-step and the mind-numbing phrase for them all to parrot in order to gloss over the ugliness of his biggoted statements is "they must be listened to in context". Hitler made a lot of speeches that moved the hearts and stirred the souls of his countrymen. It's a good thing that we've all been able to put that stuff he mentioned about the Jews into context finally.
This is a mess for D's
April 28, 2008 - 17:28 ET by celatorNoel, good take on this whole story. The MSM loves anti-heroes and projects lots of weird institutional and personal stuff on them. They love Wright, and will continue to enable this race baiter as long as they can.
It's interesting to listen to the "new" talking points as the PR rehabilitation of Wright moves forward. (If your pastor needs PR rehab in order to not derail your path to the White House, ya might have a problem). "This is an attack on the Black Church", is the most obvious talking point. Obviously, this is nonsense. Imperial Rome=Imperial America is yet another sound bite. And so on. The MSM is clueless, as usual, and participating in this scam.
Obama, a member of Wright's cult for 20 years, is caught between detaching himself from his guru with all the guilt deriving from such a decision, and still wanting to sit in that nice Oval Office at 1600 Penn Ave.
The overriding question: What poisonous influence will Wright have on Obama's decisions if he becomes President? That oughta keep us awake at night for awhile.
Once again, the D's have gotten themselves into another huge mess.
Noel: The lefts efforts
April 28, 2008 - 17:33 ET by BDNoel:
The lefts efforts to "Re-Spin" the Reverend Wright comments and claim that they were taken out of context will come to naught for one simple reason - The video of he, and his congregation while he made the statements still exists and has been burned into everyones memory.
The actions of his congregants captured on video at his worship service is what really sets the hook.
When Wright makes comments like "The US created AIDS to infect the black man and keep him down" or "no -no no, God D### America" his congregants do not just sit there quietly horrified at the pastors comments as if they were put forth as a false argument.
Rather than sitting in shocked silence, or attempting to shout down the Reverend, they are quite animated in SUPPORTING these comments to the point where in several episodes you can see excited congregants with joyful faces come upon the alter with faces alight to touch the preacher as if touching the cloak of the great man.
These are obviously not received by his congregants as straw man argumnets, but rather the perceived truth.
That is what really puts the hook in you while watching, the other people in the crowd.
BD
I personally think Team
April 28, 2008 - 17:45 ET by bobthemanI personally think Team Clinton should be on their knees at the alter of Ross Perot. Had it not been for Mr. Wingnut Ears, Bill would never have been POTUS and thus Hillary never in a position to run for office. They most likely would have retreated into the slimeworks of Arkansas politics.
Having said that, I wonder where that would put us with the Obamasiah?
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The Rev. Wright is not
April 28, 2008 - 17:48 ET by BlazerThe Rev. Wright is not trying to make nice, as a matter of fact he continues to spew his venom as witnessed at his recent televised NAACP and National Press Club speeches. He even said he would "go after" Obama and that Obama "say's what he has to say as a politician". Now after twenty year's of nodding approvingly and sitting in the pew at Wright's church and pandering to what influence could be garnered there "street cred" if you will,and acknowledging Wright as a "mentor", one has to wonder if Wright isn't miffed because he percieves Obama has stabbed him in the back. Obama, although not having outright denounced him has certainly distanced himself from him. Is Wright player hatin'. To me it look's now as if Wright is intentionally trying to harm and sabotage Obama and maybe just maybe, with his recent limelight and celebrity exposure, he's using this as an opportunity to take his inflamed rhetoric nationally and join the rank's as the latest race hustler. At any rate he'll certainly get a lot more play and there will certainly be book deal's and $$$$$$$ to be made. At any rate theres that whole chicken's coming home to roost thing for Obama. Reap what you sow, Barack.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
This "Jump The Shark"
April 28, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Scout FinchThis "Jump The Shark" moment has been brought to you by Rev. Wright.
Obama is done. Thanks to his "buddy" Wright's performance at the Press Club today.
Yes, we need to move on and spotlight the issues.
April 28, 2008 - 18:06 ET by JWFLike for example, how struggling was the good reverend in those hotbeds of oppression that is Pennsylvania, the Marines, and Chicago?
Also, how come the all powerful, all knowing white man can invent teh aids, and ferment hate all over the world so much so that chickens come home to roost, and import all the crack into the ghetto, and generally cause so much mayhem on the black man, but they can't get the reverend's foot out of his mouth?
What does 20 Years do?
April 28, 2008 - 18:52 ET by Airforce_5_OHe sat in Wright's Church, he was married there, he has raised his children in this Church...
My opinion: Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a duck.
MSM: Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a donkey!!!!
By the way it has been a big Love fest for Obama on Hardball. Damage control has started.
I never heard this??
April 28, 2008 - 19:25 ET by pbthinkerOne thing about listening to the pastor speak, I find it impossible to believe he never heard these opinions, when he was in church. This guy can't speak without alluding to his thought process so, if Obama didn't know this, he's either a terrible listener (unqualified to be President) or naive (unqualified to be president) or agrees with the pastor on most of these issues (unqualified to be president). Something has to give so let's listen to the Pastor when he talks because it's Obama's spiritual advisor.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
Hillary leads McCain by 9 points
April 28, 2008 - 23:41 ET by shawn228Looks like this Rev Wright thing has taken its toll. Obama and McCain are in a tie but the newest poll has Clinton beating McCain by 9 points
LOL shawn, you have to stay away from those polls.
April 28, 2008 - 23:44 ET by R D HelmLest you, a'hem, catch something you can't get rid of. :-O
Theme for Election '08: Who cares?
RDH
April 28, 2008 - 23:59 ET by shawn228Well now that you mention it, the last time, I was in Thailand :-) Seriously though, many people here are predicting a easy McCain victory because of the Dem infighting and the fact that McCain was up by double digits.
Polls are very important, because they reflect how people feel at the moment, and now it seems people are down on McCain for some reason. Maybe they do not want the Presidency in the GOP hands any longer.
Shawn, this may surprise you, but I think it quite possible...
April 29, 2008 - 00:07 ET by R D Helm...that Hillary could mop the floor with McCain. As you know, I am not a McCain supporter.
He is wimping out in really big ways, as he has taken to slamming his own party (like he did the NC GOP) and says little about the democrats, among other transgressions he has committed against his base.
After all, people who try to be all things to all people, as I believe McCain is trying to do in his campaign, usually end up pleasing no one.
I think Hillary will be far more of a challenge than the McCainiacs appear to think.
At this point, the only advantage for McCain in a McCain vs. Hillary contest, is the fact that many voters will turn out simply to vote against Hillary.
Maybe.
Theme for Election '08: Who cares?
Thx RDH
April 29, 2008 - 00:07 ET by shawn228I do not know if she can wipe the floor with him, but I certainly think he is beatable. I do not see why some think I am cheering for a Dem. I have not made up my mind who I want to vote for yet.
I have a bet with Noel, that we will see them both on the same ticket. If that is the case, I feel the Dems have a big chance of taking the White House.
Heck at this point I
April 29, 2008 - 00:10 ET by bigtimerHeck at this point I wouldn't be surprised not to see Hill and John on the same ticket....lol.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
shawn...it has everything
April 29, 2008 - 00:05 ET by bigtimershawn...it has everything to do with what he did to the GOP in NC IMHO.....and he knows it, or his big-wig team told him that...he won't get a cent from the conservatives after what he did to them in NC about taking the ads down....now all of the sudden, today he has an sudden shining, it is okay to go after the enemy....give me a break...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Good point bt
April 29, 2008 - 00:13 ET by shawn228He also threw that guy under the bus, that introduced him that made fun of Obamas name. Can't remember the name, but he was some conservative radio host.
I guess this feels to conservatives, what it would feel to liberals if Joe Lieberman got the Democratic nomination.
Shawn, this might really surprise you even more,
April 29, 2008 - 00:22 ET by R D HelmBut I could probably vote for Lieberman over McCain.
Seriously.
Even though I disagree with Joe often, at least I know what I would be getting.
McCain is a crap shoot in the dark.
Theme for Election '08: Who cares?
It is Cunningham
April 29, 2008 - 00:22 ET by bigtimerIt is Cunningham shawn...and the $$$ is coming in... it is coming in for the GOP parties in the states from what I have heard, just not to the National GOP and McCain....
You can figure out the anger for yourself from the rest of the conservatives that are the base of the party that McCain figures he doesn't need and sticks his finger in our eye every chance he gets...he may be learning a lesson from NC...on the other hand he has his rich wife to count on...keep on drinking that Bud brand...ya' hear!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Shawn,
April 28, 2008 - 23:47 ET by BlondeDon't be stupid.
The "national polls" are idiotic.
Hillary couldn't beat my cat, at this point.
So, chill out with your dem cheering.
WAIT....until November.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I'm not cheering anyone blonde
April 28, 2008 - 23:55 ET by shawn228I acknowledged when McCain was in the lead, the same with present.
But Blonde,
April 29, 2008 - 00:00 ET by gfrrmanI know you know that dims just can't survive in their pathetic little worlds without "polls" to tell them what to think!!! shawn gets up in the morning and turns on the tv/radio/internet(dailykos, huffpo, demunderground...etc...) and says, "wait I have to get my marching orders and wait for the polls to be released before I can make my decisions for the day. Damn they better hurry up before I have to leave for my latte at Starbucks"!!!
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
last I checked gfrrman
April 29, 2008 - 00:04 ET by shawn228Polls are overall pretty accurate unless it is too close to call. Didn't they predict the Dems would take the House last yr? The polls were wrong when they said they would fall a few seats shy of the senate.
They also predicted about a month in to the primaries that Fred Thompson would not get any better than third place and John McCain would have a chance at being the nominee. People sure did not believe the polls then either huh?
Polls, schmolls s228
April 29, 2008 - 00:14 ET by gfrrmanthe"polls"/MSM also said that in 2000 AND 2004, there would be a Democrat in the White House!!!
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
no they did not gfrrman
April 29, 2008 - 00:17 ET by shawn228They had Gore and Bush in a statistical tie and it came down to Florida. Same with Kerry and Bush. It came down to Ohio didn't it.
I did say Polls are pretty accurate if the race is not too close right?
s228,
April 29, 2008 - 00:22 ET by gfrrmanlet's agree on one thing about polls, ok? You can manipulate them to the outcome before you even start the poll. It's all in how the question is phrased. If you don't get that, then we just have a total disagreement about polls from the git-go!!..after that we just agree to disagree.
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
Well most of this site
April 29, 2008 - 00:31 ET by shawn228Well most of this site thought the polls were manipulated when they said McCain had a strong shot at the nomination.
I
somehow doubt people manipulated the vote tallie, do you? Was how they phraed the question responible for the Dems taking the house and senate or was it because of Mark Foley, Bob Ney and other scandals. It was
registered Republicans that made McCain the nominee, not Liberals or
the msm.
Many people were all talking about how great it was that McCain was up in the polls, now that I said McCain is losing, the polls are biased all of sudden. Strange!
Well, s228
April 29, 2008 - 00:43 ET by gfrrmanyour first sentence pretty much summed up my point. First of all, whose poll suggested that McCain had a shot at being the frontrunner?.....the freakin' MSM!! Geez...and who pushed the "scandel" stories of Foley, Ney and "others"? Does the MSM PUSH scandels of Dims, ie; Rizno,W Clinton(forget his last name..the Dem from Miss, or La that had the 80k in his freezer), Sandy "pants"("it was sloppy...") Berger, etc? Take a "poll" every day and you'll get a different outcome until the MSM puts their spin on things and then watch the change in the same poll.
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
well gfrrman
April 29, 2008 - 00:58 ET by shawn228I did not suggest there was not a liberal bias either did I? Also I do not got on the Daily KOS or the Huffington Post. I decided to post on DU and on my third thread, I got kicked off because I critisized affirmative action and the fairness doctrine, so don't assume you know me.
Again. The polls predicted a McCain victory, They predicted the Democrats would get about 20 or more seats in house. Pick up around 5 in the senate.
The Presidents approval rating has rarely been past 30-35 percent for at least a yr and that includes FOX news. Is that complete bias or might it be because some conservatives are not happy about his immigration debacle or runaway spending.
Now we are talking about polls, not about Sandy Berger. Would you agree overall they are pretty accurate at projecting a winner if it is not within the margin of error?
Ok, s228
April 29, 2008 - 01:35 ET by gfrrmanlet me try it again. I am the polster(MSM) and I DO have an agenda no matter how you try to deny it. Who does polls???...the MSM!! My question to you as a highly uneducated flyover, bible toten', gun loving American is as follows(remember that I am conducting a "poll".)(here's what a question from the MSM would be like..); " If you were to vote tommorrow would you vote for Obama or Hillary?" The poll would show that these two candidates would get a majority of the votes hands down and some people would see through this and still vote(even a verrry low number) for McCain or someone else. The REAL question WITHOUT an agenda liberal MSM bias would be; "If you were to vote tommorrow, for whom would you vote?" It ALL depends on the question, and NO I would not agree at the "projecting a winner" theory you subscribe to because a high majority of the "polls" are skewed for an outcome before the question is asked, I mean think about it.
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
Btw, s228
April 29, 2008 - 01:43 ET by gfrrmanlet me BOLDLY say in no uncertain terms, The "POLLS" ARE THE MSM and they DO HAVE AN AGENDA...putting a Democrat in the WHite House..make NO mistake about that!! When one hear's, "critics say" or "they say" or "there are those that say" from the msm???....it IS THE msm that "says". Let's just be clear about that FACT!!
"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER
gfrrman
April 29, 2008 - 08:23 ET by shawn228You can say the polls are bias all you want gfrrman, the facts are, they are pretty darn accurate overall. I admit they got New Hampshire wrong this year.
Again polls are very important because they show how people are feeling at the particular moment and where the momentum has shifted.
Also, again you have a maverick nominee, not because of polls with a agenda, you have a maverick nominee because of Republican voters. I do not see how can not agree with me about polls being accurate, since they clearly predicted the GOP nominee, the last congress election, and showed that it was too close to call the last two Presidential elections.
The Republicans are responsible for losing their seats, because people wanted change. The Democrats have done a terrible job so far, but the polls also show that they will still keep control of congress. Anyways even though the evidence about the accuracy of polls is clearly there, and you choose to still deny, I won't waste my time trying to convince you :-)
Hi shawn...saw that this
April 28, 2008 - 23:49 ET by bigtimerHi shawn...saw that this morning or about noonish...anyway...these little scoreboard polls change daily as you know...at least weekly for sure...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
hi bt
April 28, 2008 - 23:57 ET by shawn228Yes polls can change. Anything can happen. If we went by the polls last yr. Guiliani would have been the GOP nominee and Hillary would have won the nomination easily. We will have a more clear idea obviously when he Dems pic their nominee.
→ Keeping score
April 28, 2008 - 23:53 ET by Cool ArrowClinton: 9
McCain: 0
♣ a seal
LMAO
April 28, 2008 - 23:54 ET by shawn228that was great cool :-)
Cool... ROFLMAO! Is it
April 28, 2008 - 23:58 ET by bigtimerCool...
ROFLMAO!
Is it okay to go back to a little humor in life now...ya think?
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
→ Yup
April 29, 2008 - 00:13 ET by Cool ArrowBut I'm OK with Hillary showing so well in the polls also.
The thought that Limbaugh is somehow setting up the "Debacle in Denver" is laughable.
Truth is, the Dems ars rushing headlong into a race war within their own party of their own doing.
Talk about "chickens coming home to roost"!
The scenario that's playing out is that of a viable candidate, Hillary Clinton, being the obvious logical choice over the ever petulent, pouty Obama.
Hillary reminds me of the frog in this picture
♣ a seal
Stop it cool
April 29, 2008 - 00:57 ET by shawn228Your making me laugh really hard tonight. I also loved the skeleton skit.
Good enough for me!
April 29, 2008 - 05:13 ET by UnsaneYou don't say? Clinton beating McCain by nine points in a poll?
Well, that's good enough for me! LET'S CANCEL THE ELECTION!
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.