Despite having officially left the White House in December 2006, the mere mention of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's name is almost as certain to evoke uncontrollable vitriol from liberal media members as someone saying in their presence "George W. Bush," "Dick Cheney," or "Halliburton."
With this in mind, it certainly was not surprising to see Atlantic magazine's senior editor Andrew Sullivan on Sunday's "The Chris Matthews Show" assert that Rumsfeld, along with other Bush administration officials, will soon be indicted for war crimes.
Here's how Sullivan indelicately put it (video available here):
The latest revelations on the torture front show - the memo from John Yoo - as well as revelations from Phillippe Sands' book - means that Donald Rumsfeld, David Addington, John Yoo should not leave the United States any time soon. They will be at some point indicted for war crimes. They deserve to be.
In your dreams, Andrew.




















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Not this crap again.
April 6, 2008 - 14:17 ET by NewsbusterbrownNot this crap again.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
BDS
April 6, 2008 - 14:18 ET by jondelwicheYes, America as a country executes its own citizen prisoners
and does, what, 10,000 mid to late trimester abortions per year.
And twits like Sullivan worry about a few prisoners who are
usually treated with kid gloves?
Andrew Sullivan is a symbol of why America has been a great country:
even stupid people can make a good living here.
And the left has a legion of economically successful dopes......
I heard, I saw, I
April 6, 2008 - 14:19 ET by bigtimerI heard, I saw, I laughed....
Poor Andrew...in his dreams indeed.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Don't laugh, BT. If these
April 6, 2008 - 14:22 ET by NL207Don't laugh, BT. If these vermin gain power that is exactly what they will try to do.
NL... I was only laughing
April 6, 2008 - 16:20 ET by bigtimerNL... I was only laughing for the moment here...I know full well about the International courts ect...and the leftists love of them.
Spooky indeed.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
The Daily Bush
April 6, 2008 - 14:36 ET by third eyevia wikipedia
Andrew Michael Sullivan (born August 10, 1963) is an English libertarian conservative author and political commentator, known for his often personal style of political analysis.
If this dude is a "libertarian conservative", I wonder what exactly distinguishes between that and a diehard liberal .
Not much apparently.
Sure, you can find some
April 6, 2008 - 14:34 ET by SMGalbraithSure, you can find some left-wing anti-American court somewhere in the world that will use law to attack American policies. It's called lawfare.
That someone who calls himself a conservative would align himself with these radicals reveals, once again, the fraudulence of Andrew Sullivan.
Fraudulence aside, the man simply makes so many errors and his analysis of this issue is so tendentious and sloppy that it's frankly shocking that anyone still takes him seriously.
There's a serious and somber case to be made against the Bush Administration's detainee policies and approach. But you won't find it coming from Mr. Sullivan. This is a person, after all, who says that America is a "thinly disguised military dictatorship."
Someone who thinks that is either very ignorant or very nuts.
He's not ignorant.
Left wingers make no
April 6, 2008 - 14:39 ET by spiderdanLeft wingers make no distinction between the reality of prosecuting a war on terrorists and prosecuting those they believe have violated tenets of their "give 'em a hug" foreign policy. Since the Democrats -- and their waterboys in the media -- have been stung by so many corruption related prosecutions, their political adversaries will be lumped into the same criminal pile. This mentality is supposed to justify the absurdity of their position on the foreign campaign to rid the world of terrorist elements -- a position flawed on so many levels.
If one carries this buffoon's logic to its conclusion, most Democrats in the Clinton administration should be in Leavenworth for criminal fraud and negligence. I don't need to list specifics or cite case law, I just need to make these statements part of the public record in order for the guileless reader to adopt the premise as a factual account of events that did or did not occur.
We have names for people like this clown -- but this is a family show, and children don't understand references that suggest this liberal idiot needs a podiatrist to accomodate his proctologist.
This just in - Clinton convicted of War Crimes
April 6, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Gary HallThis just in - Clinton convicted of War Crimes. Oops, I'm so sorry - this just in, implied "in 2000" this was just in. From the BBC:
Andrew Sullivan just might be next.
Hi Gary.... I was
April 6, 2008 - 15:09 ET by bigtimerHi Gary....
I was thinking of looking for that same link when I saw all this...seems the usual the leftists always seem to forget this little factoid of information now doesn't it?
When convenient....for their agenda.
They must think we out here are all as brain-dead and clueless as they pretend to be or are in some cases...
The fools.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT - yes, and in defense
April 6, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Gary HallBT - yes they do forget - the few that know (or knew). But, in defense of them; few folks actually ever heard the news. there are hundreds of stories about the Clinton years, the Carter years, the LBJ years, etc., that simply never make it to the streeet. Such news, such conversations, did not take place on the networks nor on the cable shows very often - and it certainly would not ever be repeated again, if it had slipped in there. (;~> g
Nothing to See Here
April 6, 2008 - 15:08 ET by Del DolemonteLawyers in Germany tried to file "war crimes" charges against Rummy in 2005. The charges were thrown out of court.
http://www.time.com/...
Belgium likewise tried to do the same thing to Bush in 2003. No luck there either.
http://www.dw-world....
This is what a colostomy bag
April 6, 2008 - 15:12 ET by the strugglerThis is what a colostomy bag looks like in a suit.
Didn't see this Matthews
April 6, 2008 - 16:16 ET by TEDidn't see this Matthews show (duuuuuh), but let me guess: The show consisted of Matthews and four other identically like-minded leftists sitting around sharing their idiocy with each other. BTW, I know that Matthews is one of the three or four geniuses on the planet who "think" that Sullivan is a "conservative" (hahahahahaha). Sullivan says so himself ....
I like Chrissy's response......
April 6, 2008 - 16:21 ET by connmanuhhhh really?
Sorry to say but
April 6, 2008 - 16:22 ET by DelsaAndrew has left the planet!
It is my hope that Secretary
April 6, 2008 - 16:51 ET by jdhawkIt is my hope that Secretary of Defense Rumsfield receives the Medal of Freedom for his tireless efforts on behalf of our country throughout his lifetime. President Bush would do well to bestow it upon him before leaving office. He is certainly deserving of it.
Tyranny flourishes when good men do nothing. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfield can count themselves amongst those that have done something about some of the tyranny that flourishes on our planet.
God bless them.
Sullivan's utterances aren't deserving of retort.
jdhawk... I feel the same
April 6, 2008 - 16:59 ET by bigtimerjdhawk... I feel the same way regarding Rumsfield too.
I think he was treated despicable.
I also like how he treated the msm, they got as good as they gave him...same in the endless hearings of congress.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
War crimes
April 6, 2008 - 20:15 ET by ScrapironI expect the announcement of the war crimes trials about one hour prior to the liberal media types finding out that American Buildings, Automobiles and various places they frequent blow up just like those in other countries hit by terrorists. They may find that the Mussies aren't the only ones capable of reading bomb making instructions since most third graders seem able to grasp the concept. I truly see this happening in the very near future. The American people are fed up with the anti-americans on the left and it's a surprise the lefties are still walking around.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Memo to Andrew Sullivan:
April 6, 2008 - 20:19 ET by ConservativeRexMemo to Andrew Sullivan: cc: Chrissy Matthews- NO they will not be!
Per: The American people.
How about the rest of the war criminals?
April 6, 2008 - 20:43 ET by TheHistorianWhen are these loons going to take the people who chop of heads, etc. of innocent civilians (and not-so-innocent journalits) and take them to court for the same things (and even worse actions) that they claim Rumsfeld has done. I guess I just missed hearing about how Ahmadinijad has been hauled up for the things the Iranian-backed militias have been doing in Iraq.
But what will happen will be even more Congressional investigations. And those are good things; while they are having investigations, they aren't writing any legislation. And THAT is why it is a good thing. Another reason is that way CNN has something it can put on TV that is almost as interesting as the rest of its drivel.
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel
Dear Andrew
April 6, 2008 - 21:25 ET by algoa456Is my memory playing tricks. I am sure that for a short time dear Andrew did support the war effort, but now seeing how the wind is blowing he has quietly shifted his stance. The old Rummy war criminal line is a great winner with libs and lefties alike. Ideal for securing your bona fides.
180 degrees off
April 6, 2008 - 22:11 ET by Jonah JohansenI think it is far more likely that traitors on the left will be arrested than those who sought to protect us by the necessary means.
I think the liberal establishment greatly under estimates the wrath of the American public following another 9-11 like event. If that event is has horrific, as I fear it might be, the backlash will be ugly and uncontrolable.
Mobs with torches attacking newspapers and TV stations is not that farfetched, neither is Left wing professors being thrown out of third story windows.
The next time we are attacked there will be no ambiguity in the publics' mind about who was trying to protect us and who was working to make that job more difficult.
Bush went out of his way,
April 6, 2008 - 22:51 ET by jpm100Bush went out of his way, imho, to not dig up Clinton's skeletons. In fact, I think there was due blame to be assigned leading up to 9/11 that wasn't assign.
Anyway, the irony will be that George Bush will not be afforded the same courtesy.
Be prepared for a Democrat President, as things crumble around them, to open the door to a post-Bush administration witchhunt and finger pointing.
Hey Andrew, kiss my black
April 6, 2008 - 23:09 ET by RESTLESS 1Hey Andrew, kiss my black ass!!!
Oops. Sorry folks, temporary case of Obamamania.
Hey Andrew, kiss my white ass!!!
There, that's better.
In order to do that they will have to change the laws
April 7, 2008 - 07:22 ET by c5thenAnd then apply them ex post facto, something that the Constitution of the US specifically forbids. Not that they wouldn't try. To the far left, the Constitution is a pesky old documant that has outlived it's usefulness.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Andrew Sullivan
April 7, 2008 - 07:23 ET by slpSure, you can find some
April 6, 2008 - 15:34 ET by SMGalbraith
the man simply makes so many errors and his analysis of this issue is
so tendentious and sloppy that it's frankly shocking that anyone still
takes him seriously.
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No one with any intelligence has taken Andrew seriously for several years.
Noel, Before I read to
April 7, 2008 - 07:35 ET by msh1973Noel,
Before I read to the end of your blog, I said to myself, "in your dreams, Andrew"...funny. No really, these libs have to get a life and move on, it is really getting annoying.
This shows how Libs think.
April 7, 2008 - 10:37 ET by mattmThis shows how Libs think. To disagree with their way of handling things is not just erroneous, it's criminal.
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Donald Rumsfeld is a hero of mine
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