Former White House advisor Karl Rove gave a speech at George Washington University on Friday that was disturbed by protestors from the anti-war group Code Pink.
As the "insurgents" were being removed from the Harry Harding Auditorium by security guards, students in attendance could be heard comically shouting "Tase 'em!" (embedded video to the right).
As reported by The Conservative Voice, in between interruptions, Rove had some interesting things to say about the current campaign:
Sen. Barack Obama's rhetoric against the Iraq war could prove a major vulnerability for Democrats should Obama win their presidential nomination, former Bush administration political advisor Karl Rove said Friday. [...]
Rove, who left the White House in August and is now a regular contributor to Fox News, said Democrats could be hurt by their attempts to distort Republican Sen. John McCain's positions on Iraq. Referring to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean's fundraising letter that accused McCain of advocating "endless war," Rove said, "This is more damaging than almost any issue" in the campaign.
The drawn-out battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination will force Democrats to untangle "a remarkable Gordian knot," said Rove, forcecasting that the decision will ultimately rest with so-called "super-delegates" at the Democratic convention in August.
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The Best thing to happen to The GOP
March 29, 2008 - 20:17 ET by exLibis that Dean is the DNC Chair, what a demented ignoramus he is. I thought MacAuliff (sic) was bad, but Dean makes him look sane and moderate.
Nothing Dean says can be taken seriously because he can't just say Bush is a bad President, he has to be "the worst" president. In an interview he couldn't even find one thing positive to say about GWB. It's all gross exaggeration and hyperbole with him.
Dean is definitely the worst......
March 29, 2008 - 23:18 ET by VT Con ManNot only is he a demented, liberal political hack, but he also has an incredibly bad case of the little man syndrome.....arrogant, condescending, hateful bigot. Quite a nasty little man.
And he was never really well connected in the political arena. Goes to show any doofus can be the dnc chair...
Well, sure, if conservatives
March 29, 2008 - 20:29 ET by balboaWell, sure, if conservatives yell "Tase him," it's funny.
balboa
March 29, 2008 - 20:37 ET by Noel Sheppardb,
Your sense of humor is terrible. It's only funny if someone yells "Tase 'em!" "Tase him" doesn't work! ns
Sorry, I got the wrong
March 29, 2008 - 20:44 ET by balboaSorry, I got the wrong syntax.
Don't taze me bal...
March 29, 2008 - 20:43 ET by Jack BauerDon't taze me bal... Owww...owww.....arrggghhhh.
Just once, I would like to hear, or read
March 29, 2008 - 21:22 ET by JoggerNotthat a few of these CODE PUKES actually went before a JUDGE, as charged, with the book thrown at them, with previous arrests and convictions included, etc. And the judge just DROPS THE HAMMER ON EM! you know, a few hundred thousand dollar fines, for each offender, State prison time, Yahoo!
Am I dreaming?
Rove a winner.
March 29, 2008 - 21:23 ET by ScrapironIf you want the democrats to show their insanity to the world just roll out Rove 'the puppet master'. He has them on a string and scared to death. Tase em with a 9MM.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
The hits keep coming!
March 29, 2008 - 21:25 ET by balboaThe hits keep coming!
Again, get a grip
March 30, 2008 - 09:36 ET by Indiana JoeYou remind me of a guy panning for gold, and finding a grain in every 50th pan, going "see, see, I toldja!"
Go to HuffPo, DK, or just about any "political" op site on the net, bal. You'll see way more people saying way worse things about Rove and Bush in particular, and conservatives in general. The difference is, those people mean it!
No, IJ, I know Scrapiron's a
March 30, 2008 - 13:33 ET by balboaNo, IJ, I know Scrapiron's a nut. Just want to point it out.
Sorry, bal, but I'd need
March 30, 2008 - 15:51 ET by Indiana JoeSorry, bal, but I'd need more than just your word to believe it's more than a joke, albeit in poor taste. If he specified he was serious, that would be different. And should lead to banning, IMO.
Even if true, it would still be that "one grain" I spoke of. But you're not one for "guilt-by-association," I'm sure.
Please bring on Rove
March 29, 2008 - 21:49 ET by Angry AfricanThe Democrats will love that. he did wonders for the popularity of Bush towards the end. Eventually everyone started smelling something rotting. You can fool some of the people some of the time...
Save a whale, harpoon a conservative!
Harpoon a conservative..
March 29, 2008 - 23:09 ET by JoggerNotAnd save the whales, as long as your'e at it.
Hmmm...I bet you also conclude that you are oppressed?
somehow, hillary or heusein wont oppress you?
I bet you are a money grubbing, food stamp collector, etc.
prove me wrong.
Sorry baby
March 30, 2008 - 11:15 ET by Angry AfricanSorry to dissapoint you. I make loads of money working for business. The biggest businesses in this world. No money grubbing, food stamp collecting here.
I don't need hand-outs thank you.
It is open for discussion about Obama and HillBillary. But I know what I am getting from the other side. Oppression. I stand a better chance with Obama - thanks.
I have a self imposed 24 hour rule,
March 30, 2008 - 22:27 ET by JoggerNotto comment back at what I think is foolish, by me first, and others second.
You state that you make tons of money,
WHY?
Why bitch at me about how obama h will not oppress you?
btw..biggest business in the world?
Oil, Drugs, Folks of the night?
Obama will oppress you. And me.
Jog
March 31, 2008 - 07:40 ET by Angry AfricanMaybe I am missing something - I know the answer to that!
I didn't bring up the oppression issue. Or the money issue. That was a tongue in cheek response to your response to my response - too many responses.
All I said was that the Democrats would love to have Rove involved as it will give them another target to fight Mac. The independent who will decide this election don't like him or Bush (not saying it is right or wrong - just a fact) and any involvement of Rove will give them an opportunity to link McCain to Bush. And the indepedents don't like Bush - see approval ratings.
So, I wasn't bitching or moaning - I was just making an observation. And I also said I agree that Rove should, like everyone else, have an opportunity to talk wherever he wants without any outside influence by radicals.
Not sure how it turned into an oppression or money issue. It was just an observation. Do you agree with the observation? Remember, I am not asking whether you like Rove or not - just how the "other" side will react to him.
And no - not oil or drugs! Good companies that you most likely use, eat and wear all day,
Do you know the difference
March 29, 2008 - 23:13 ET by liberal_bug_zapperDo you know the difference between a thirteen year old and any Democrat or Liberal???
You guessed it... only their age.
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Wow
March 30, 2008 - 11:24 ET by Angry AfricanThat brings such deep substance to the debate. Such a bright spark to a dull conversation. Stop being the bully on the schoolyard and grow up. Name calling doesn't win wars - action do. Start acting.
Oh, as if "save a whale,
March 30, 2008 - 16:19 ET by mattmOh, as if "save a whale, harpoon a conservative" brings deep thought to a debate!
The radical lunatics who try to shout down Mr. Rove aren't interested in debate. Nor are they interested in listening to what Rove says and then trying to dispute, it if they can. All they want is to silence him and everyone else who opposes their extremism.
THAT, my friend, is the behavior of tyrants and oppressors.
You claim to be doing well economically - so, who's oppressing you? You seem to be living the dream...
If you really are a thoughtful person, you ought to put your prejudices aside and really look at the other side of things. I believe if you do, you will discover that it has been the conservatives who have been the champions of freedom, peace and individual rights, where as the Liberals have been the appeasers of dictators and the promoters of oppressive centralized government.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
Rove to roam free
March 30, 2008 - 18:02 ET by Angry AfricanI want Rove to be "set free". I absolutely deplore anyone who wants to shut him or anyone up. That is just not freedom of speech.
I was saying (tongue in cheek) that the Democrats would love to have him in the public eye as he gives them another target to aim at. The independents (who will win the election for either side) do not like Rove and it would therefore play into the hands of Democrats.
No one is oppressing me? When did I say someon is oppressing me? I for sure as hell didn't say that. And I am not going to get sucked into a "we the caring conservatives - liberals bad" argument. You get both good and bad on both sides of the argument. And all we will do is throw examples at each other of how bad the other side is. Sorry mate - once we start throwing sh*t at each other we will both stink.
My apology for being a bigot on the tagline though - again, that was just tongue in cheek and stirring the pot of trouble to see what will bubble up.
Sorry Baby...
March 31, 2008 - 08:09 ET by KarmaIf not oppressed from "the other side", just what did you mean here?
http://newsbusters.o...
Look to a higher source
April 1, 2008 - 09:10 ET by Angry AfricanJust scroll one up to the post I replied to (your link) - they brought up "oppressed" not me. My original post had nothing to do with oppression, but they somehow managed to work that in. I responded. My mistake was reacting to something that was not in the original discussion at all. Ask the one I responded to why they mentioned oppressed in the first place.
Over generalizing
March 31, 2008 - 21:35 ET by austinhook...it has been the conservatives who have been
the champions of freedom, peace and individual rights, where as the
Liberals have been the appeasers of dictators and the promoters of
oppressive centralized government.
Figure you are over generalizing here. There are too many exceptions to make this worth saying. Better stick to discussing individuals, and what their past likely tells about their future behaviour. Old fashioned southern democrats used to be considered "conservatives", but none of that matters now -- it's what the various current actors on the scene are up to that really matters.
"he did wonders for the
March 30, 2008 - 16:25 ET by Jerry"he did wonders for the popularity of Bush towards the end..."
No, it was the press who did wonders for Bush's popularity, during 8 continuous years of negative reporting.
"Eventually everyone started smelling something rotting..."
Unfortunately, the stench was from the MSM's sewage eruption, as they abandoned all pretense of balanced reporting.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
He's Right.
March 29, 2008 - 21:41 ET by heldmywThe Dems are well and truly boned this cycle. Hillary isn't going down, out or anywhere. She can't.
Calls for her to quit simply because she's not ahead, assume that Hillary will bow to the “Good of the Party”, throw her support to Obama and accept the inevitable like a good soldier.
I suggest that this is in error, and that knackering Obama… deluxe, royal,
and a la mode, will be in her best interest.
In her mind, SHE IS PRESIDENTIAL. Obama is an upstart. He must be destroyed
for his impudence.
Here’s how the destruction will occur:
She will NOT bow out, nor surrender, nor gracefully do anything of the sort.
She will carry the rancorous, bitter fight to the convention and use
’scorched-earth’ rhetoric until the last partisan is dead.
Why?
If he tanks in the general as Mondale did, she will be PERFECTLY situated to
come back in 4 years with her “I TOLD YOU SO” campaign, and… (God help me), try
again.
Bill’s down with this, so desperate is he for the bully pulpit of the White
House, just to have a shot at changing his “Lewinsky Presidue” legacy to
something less (ahem) seminal. It’s his last hope to lose “Slick Willy the
Cigar President” as the epitaph he will be buried under.
Already happening…
Watch for rampant feminist dissection of the “Misogynistic Campaign of ‘08″
as prelude. Already they’re ramping up the “womyn hater” rhetoric, and
competely ignoring the fact that America DOES NOT ‘hate’ women!
It's a lie. We don’t hate
women in general, women in business or women in politics.
A majority of the electorate just doesn’t like Hillary Clinton. She’s the
“head cheese” on the cold cut tray of Presidential politics.
Me? I don’t like her for herself and never have. I despise Bill Clinton as a
crapulent, dirty little boy, and I’m really starting to not like Chelsea.
Karl's right, and far more politely circumspect than I. The Dems are boned.
Well, and truly.
despise Bill Clinton
March 30, 2008 - 08:50 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsI despise Bill Clinton as a
crapulent, dirty little boy, and I’m really starting to not like Chelsea.
Yeah, that Chelsea, she of the hedge fund with the six figure salary. She graduates college (anybody see her grades?), gets a job to die for, then, instead of showing up for work, goes off to help mommy rule the world. Name that hedge fund so I don't put a dime there.
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"The tail and the horns are
March 29, 2008 - 23:23 ET by kevcad"The tail and the horns are retractible."
ROTFLMAO
Comedy gold.
Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields
Consciousness raising
March 30, 2008 - 00:40 ET by KC MulvilleIf only we could speak truth to power! The masses will rally to our side!
Instead, the masses yell "Tase 'em."
Now that's funny.
Campaign ad idea...
March 30, 2008 - 03:45 ET by Parker1227Remember Howard Dean, the fellow with the scream?
(insert scream clip)
He's in charge of the DNC, and his screams haven't stopped since 2003.
Remember the voters in Florida and Michigan? He blew them off so Obama could win.
But Howard isn't just hard on his own, he screams at conservatives from the perch of his throne:
"...a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives."
"Pretty much, they all behave the same, and they all look the same."
"This is a struggle of good and evil. And we're the good."
The party of a new politics?
Vote McCain. The reasonable choice.
No endless war?
March 30, 2008 - 03:51 ET by austinhookRove ... said Democrats could be hurt by their attempts
to distort Republican Sen. John McCain's positions on Iraq. Referring
to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean's fundraising
letter that accused McCain of advocating "endless war," Rove said,
"This is more damaging than almost any issue" in the campaign.
Damaging to whom?
Or are we mincing words for imperfections of the paraphrases? "Endless war" or indefinite occupation as necessary? Or whatever McCain said. Is there a really big difference in what McCain said and how Dean understands it? Rove lost me here.
»→ Austinhook
March 30, 2008 - 04:39 ET by Cool Arrow60 years after defeating the Germans and Japanese, we still have a large presence in both countries as well as in Korea.
You've lost me here.
♣ a seal
Dang right, Cool Arrow!
March 30, 2008 - 07:03 ET by sentforth5...and isn't it funny that we kicked thier xsses and then set them up, brushed them off, and learned 'em how to do things right..
Japan grew up to be a world finance leader.
Germany grew up to be a wonderful tourist destination.
S. Korea stopped eating rats and dirt, and started manufacturing wonderful musical instruments, cars, jewelry,etc. and began putting a little change in their own pockets.
Geez, anyways...the nerve of some people's kids....
USA ROCKS!
Liberals think they can't lose-which will cause them to lose
March 30, 2008 - 08:11 ET by Miket53The general election is when the true test happens. Comments against the war by Obama are great to get the nomination but I still think most Americans are seriously concerned about terrorism and the future. In the end people want a strong position on fighting terrorism. If Obama's answer is to sit down and talk...that will hurt him in the election. The freak show going on now between Barack and Hillary is just what republicans need. A pundit last week had the best line..."McCain is the luckiest guy in the world since Ringo Starr". Everything is falling his way and could not have been planned better.
Miket53 http://mtaricani.blogspot.com/
delete
March 30, 2008 - 11:15 ET by shawn228Sorry wrong thread
We were not misled
March 30, 2008 - 12:05 ET by JWF"My point is, is that Senator Obama's charge in this campaign that somehow or another the American people were deliberately misled about Iraq, is a falsehood, that he knows is a falsehood..."
I will go further. it is a lie! We were technically still at war with Iraq since 1991. The reason we were still at war was because Hussein had never honored the armistice. Hostilites can resume at any time for any reason by any side without that final treaty.
Congress authorised the resumption of hostilities. Yes, President Bush requested it, but the 535 members of Congress authorised it. And they listed some 22 reasons for doing so.
Once those soldiers feet hit the ground, you cannot unauthorise it no matter how you spin it.
We have a very simple contract with our military.
the military agreement with it's citizenry: We will go in and take out any bad guy you want. Just point him out.
the citizenries agreement with it's military: If we send you in somewhere to take out a bad guy, we will back you up. We will do what it takes to make sure you have the equipment, time, extra bodies, whatever, until the job is done.
Obama was a citizen in 2003 and is violating that agreement and does not deserve the job of CinC.
Protesters
March 31, 2008 - 21:40 ET by RubiconWhy is it when liberals speak at an event, conservatives listen to them & then respond? BUT, when conservatives try to speak at an event, they get over the top liberals ranting, raving, heckling, and otherwise totally trying to disrupt or even stop the speech of a conservative speaker!
In a democratic representative civilized society, we listen to each side of the debate & then we decide which position best represents what we feel is best for us.
If it is considered appropriate, proper, or fair to interrupt the comments &/or position of conservatives, before they have even finished their statements, are the hecklers actually civilized?
Isn't it time we get one of the media pundits to make hay out of this fact? Isn't it time for the liberals to accept that their positions are as radical and as violent, as any they accuse conservatives of? Or is it that liberal issues or positions equate to justified violence, but conservative issues or positions do not? Isn't that a bit disingenuous?
Rove can be a polarizing factor if he is held up to represent Republicans or conservatives in a public forum. Thats because the left has so vilified & demonized him, that any time he speaks on any subject anywhere, the biased media immediately go into Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) mode & froth at the mouth in apoplectic frenzy!
Its possible someone could also make this election about fairness of messages. The media can be proved to have conveyed an incredible unbalanced & biased position on almost every subject or point that has been made in the past eight years! If a conservative or Republican screws up, the media use their Republican status to beat them & the party to death. But when a Democrat transgresses, there is barely a mention of party affiliation, if at all in a number of cases.
Rove is portrayed as the conservative Republican attack dog. But Dean is portrayed as the colorful representative of Democrats! ???? If Democrats gain majority control of the House &/or Senate, plus gain control of the White House, I fear we may even find blogs like this attacked.
Still, I refuse to sink to their levels. The positive intellectual messages of the Republican conservative agenda will show itself to be what is best for this nation, long & short term. And no matter how many say my positions are violent, I will always say we have every right to defend ourselves from any enemy, even if we must kill that enemy to accomplish protecting ourselves. I know I will not allow myself, my loved ones, or my nation to die, just to prove I am a nice guy!