Scientist Demands Apology From ABC for Global Warming Hit Piece

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By Noel Sheppard | March 28, 2008 - 11:40 ET

As NewsBusters reported, ABC's "World News" aired a disturbing global warming hit piece on Sunday that disrespectfully attacked an esteemed scientist and emeritus professor, referring to his work as "fraudulent nonsense" that is "going to cost lives, and cause us lost species, and cost major economic damage around the world."

The subject of the report, Dr. S. Fred Singer, has been receiving well wishes of support from across the globe since this segment aired, including at ABC News's website where virtually all of the currently 128 comments submitted have been highly critical of this story and the way Singer was treated.

With this in mind, Singer has formally asked ABC for an apology and a retraction (presented with permission):

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LETTER TO ABC NEWS

TO: Felicia Biberica Fiona Conway
Producer Executive director ABC News
ABC News
W. 66th St.
New York City 10023

Dear Ms Biberica and Ms Conway March 25, 2008

I share the anger expressed in nearly 100 postings (so far) at the shoddy handling of my interview aired on March 23: It was an appalling display of bias, unfairness, journalistic misbehavior, and a breakdown of ethical standards. It used prejudicial language, distorted facts, libelous insinuations, and anonymous smears. I urge you to read the postings; only one person offered any support to ABC, as far as I can see.

I put the following account on my website www.sepp.org:

1. Interviewer Dan Harris used a man from Greenpeace who spouted conspiracy theories about me, showing someone's diagram that 'connects' me to groups alleged to be financed by oil companies. The only purpose I can think of is to suggest to viewers that I am in the pay of oil companies and that therefore my science is somehow tainted and not credible. First, the suggestion is completely false. I am not financed or supported by oil companies or by any industry. Then, Harris tried to suggest that I misrepresented by denying oil company support but admitting receiving an unsolicited donation. I draw a distinction --as would any reasonable person -- between being 'supported' and between a single charitable donation (constituting a tiny fraction of 1%) of all donations received. Finally, the word 'connected' is imprecise, and can mean anything from being on a mailing list to holding a position and receiving a salary. In my case it is definitely the former.

2. Dan Harris also referred to unnamed scientists from NASA, Princeton and Stanford, who pronounced what I do as 'fraudulent nonsense.' [The ABC website changed it to 'fabricated' nonsense - perhaps on advice of ABC's lawyers.] They are easily identified as the well-known Global Warming zealots Jim Hansen, Michael Oppenheimer, and Steve Schneider. They should be asked by ABC to put their money where their mouth is and have a scientific debate with me. [I suspect they'll chicken out. They surely know that the facts support my position -- so they resort to anonymous slurs.] Hansen is no longer the careful scientist he was but has turned into an ideologue willing to publish junk 'research'. Oppenheimer, who may still be on the payroll of Environmental Defense, an activist lobbying group, has negligible credentials. Schneider has not published significant research in years. Both Hansen and Oppenheimer could be labeled as ‘Contrarians’ since they disagree with important conclusions of the UN-IPCC.

3. Dan Harris did mention my doubts about the lung-cancer effects of Second-Hand Smoke, about the danger of toxic waste (spent nuclear fuel), and about 'Nuclear Winter.' All true -- Dan did his research but withheld the full story. On SHS, I simply quoted from the experts (see attached review article from a noted medical doctor, specializing in lung disease). Nuclear fuel presents no technical problems, only political ones. France and Britain handle its disposal; why don't we? 'Nuclear Winter' (which burst onto the scene in 1983 -- and disappeared quickly) was basically a fraud, invented to shore up an ideological position. We disposed of it in a debate moderated by Ted Koppel on ABC-Nightline. But Harris left the audience with the impression that I am a ‘career skeptic’, and therefore my skepticism about manmade GW should be ignored.

4. Yours is supposed to be a news program not an opinion journal. Dan Harris completely ignored the new scientific evidence against anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming (AGW) and the fact that 100 other scientists presented papers that support this view. The Heartland Conference in NY had an attendance of more than 500, practically all of them AGW skeptics. That’s news, but ABC ignored it.

Conclusion: ABC owes it to its audience and to me to make appropriate corrections -- an apology and retraction by Dan Harris on the World News program.

Sincerely,


S. Fred Singer, PhD (Physics, Princeton)
Professor Emeritus, University of Virginia
Fellow, American Geophysical Union
Fellow, American Physical Society

Will ABC respond accordingly? Stay tuned.

—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

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This letter is great

Thank you for sharing this letter.

As a UVa alum, every time I see "University of Virginia" behind this man's name it just makes me happy.

There's no doubt in my mind that ABC will respond accordingly, if "accordingly" means "by ignoring it entirely, or conversely practicing character assassination."

Dr. Singer does have excellent credentials


- S. Fred Singer, B.E.E. Electrical Engineering, A.M. Ph.D. Physics; Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia

Interesting how Dr. Singer is just as qualified to debate climatology as those who called his claims "nonsense"...

- James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics
- Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
- Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics

Wait the scientists arguing in favor of AGW do not have degrees in Climatology? *gasp* How can this be? Will the MSM report this?

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Nobody who has taken a

Nobody who has taken a doctorate before 1980 has a Phd. in Climate Science.  It really did not exist as a field before then.

That's interesting.

Would "Environmental Sciences" qualify in some respects? And that's almost 30 years ago, I would think anyone under their late-50s would have had a shot at it.

So, the guys predicting the "Coming Ice Age" in the '70s were really unqualified in the field? Didn't know what they were talking about?

The hell you say!      ;^)

In the "old days", 

In the "old days",  Meteorology and Physics would be the fields.  That's one of the reasons I laugh clowns like Giles Winterbourne out of here on that point.  He and his ilk are always attacking Realists whose credentials are Meteorology, [sneeringly refers to them as TV Weathermen] as if that were some unrelated discipline.

"Interesting how Dr. Singer

"Interesting how Dr. Singer is just as qualified to debate climatology as those who called his claims 'nonsense'..."

Not if you consider the number of peer-reviewed articles Singer has published related to climate science. That number would be ZERO. Hansen, Oppenheimer, and Schneider are all actively conducting research in climate science while Singer is not. I would bet that, combined, the three scientists you mention have authored or co-authored hundreds of peer-reviewed articles related to climate, while Singer has none. And don't even try to argue that the anything the Heartland Institute puts out is peer-reviewed.

Now you are lying about Dr. Singer

Apparently these papers do not exist...

Human Contribution to Climate Change Remains Questionable
(EOS, Transactions, American Geophysical Society, Vol 80, page 183-187, April 20, 1999)
- S. Fred Singer

A comparison of tropical temperature trends with model predictions
(International Journal of Climatology, 5 Dec 2007)
- David H. Douglass, John R. Christy, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

Altitude dependence of atmospheric temperature trends: Climate models versus observation
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L13208, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

Disparity of tropospheric and surface temperature trends: New evidence
(Geophysical Research Letters, VOL. 31, L13207, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer, Paul C. Knappenberger, Patrick J. Michaels

You should stop reading your propaganda left-wing smear sites.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Oh sorry, I should have

Oh sorry, I should have said relevant papers. Also, notice that Singer has no lead author credits for original scientific work. The short work Human Contribution to Climate Change Remains Questionable is simply a commentary.

Ya Know, it's funny to me...

that all of these so called "climate experts" have spent so much time and ink and breath attempting to convince people that 1. Global Warming exists, 2. Humans cause it through carbon dioxide "pollution", 3. that it is an emergency, and 4. that a tax which benefits the UN will cure it. And all this time I sit in my little house (in Florida) nearly at sea level, surrounded by water on three sides, and wonder why, if the global sea level is rising because the ice caps are melting, why isn't my house full of water, and why is the beach still exactly where it has always been? Then I thought, how could such smart people be mistaken? Then it suddenly struck me, they are not mistaken at all, they are lying and they know it. It is about funding for research on a bogus subject, not saving the Earth. Because funding means salaries for these same people. If they don't get funding, they are going starve because they don't know how to do anything else.   

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Communist vs. Statist '08

Q. Is Panamanian born John McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"

The 'Deciderer' of Relevant Papers

First you lie and say he has no papers published in decades, then you lie and say he has had no papers published on climate related issues, then you lie and say he has no papers published in the last two years. After you were proven wrong all three times you, the 'deciderer' claim they are not "relevant", how "convenient".

People can make up their own minds.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Nothing to

Nothing to really relevant to say? 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

publication history

Singer does have a history of publication: hop over to your local public library site and search the databases. An author search in ProQuest shows 15 articles since 1984; mostly WSJ, Consumers' Research, Insight on the News, and a short letter to the editor in Nature.

Searching just his name pulls up a couple more LttE and, of course, some articles where he is mentioned.

Given his short science publication list compared to the above; it would seem he'd rather argue  it as a political issue rather than a scientific one.  Or as Troop says "...S. Fred Singer knows how to make himself a hot prospect." _A Warm Acceptance_  The Chronicle of Higher Education Apr 29 2005 (about Singer's acceptance of the 'Flat Earth' award)

Who is Fred Singer? 1989-

Who is Fred Singer?  Fred Singer the flat earther???

1989- Director and President, The Science and Environmental Policy Project. Foundation-funded, independent research group, incorporated in 1992, to advance environment and health policies through sound science. SEPP is a non-profit, education organization

1994- Distinguished Research Professor, Institute for Humane Studies at George Mason University, Fairfax, VA

1989-1994 Distinguished Research Professor, Institute for Space Science and Technology, Gainesville, FL. Principal investigator, Cosmic Dust/Orbital Debris Project.

1987-1989 Chief Scientist, U.S. Department of Transportation. Also: Deputy Administrator, Research and Special Programs Administration; Chairman, Navigation Council (GPS applications). Technical advisor on Air Traffic Control System procurement.

1971-1994 Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA. Planetary science; global environmental issues (acid rain, greenhouse warming, ozone depletion); cost-benefit analysis; oil and energy(economics and public policy); economic and environmental impacts of population growth.

1970-1971 Deputy Assistant Administrator (Policy), U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Also, chaired Interagency Work Group on Environmental Impacts of the Supersonic Transport.

1967-1970 Deputy Assistant Secretary (Water Quality and Research), U.S. Department of the Interior. Also, integrated atmospheric/oceanographic activities within the Department.

1964-1967 (First) Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences, University of Miami, Coral Gables, FL. Expanded the oceanographic institute and added departments of atmospheric sciences and geophysics.

1962-1964 (First) Director, National Weather Satellite Center (now part of NOAA), U.S. Department of Commerce. Established operational systems for remote sensing and for management of atmosphere, ocean, and land surface data.

1953-1962 Director, Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics, and Professor of Physics, University of Maryland, College Park, MD. Experiments, theory, and publications on rocket and satellite technology, remote sensing, cosmic rays, radiation belts, magnetosphere, the Moon, meteorites, general relativity.

1950-1953 Scientific Liaison Officer, U.S. Office of Naval Research, London. Reported on research in nuclear physics, astrophysics, and geophysics in European universities and laboratories.

1946-1950 Research Physicist, Upper Atmosphere Rocket Program, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Silver Spring, MD. Cosmic ray, ozone, and ionosphere research with instrumented V-2 and Aerobee rockets, launched from White Sands, NM and shipboard.

MAJOR SCIENTIFIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS:

First measurements, with V-2 and Aerobee rockets, of primary cosmic radiation in space (with James A. Van Allen, 1947-1950) and upper-atmospheric ozone (with J.J.Hopfield and H. Clearman, 1948).

Discovery, with rocket-borne magnetometer, of equatorial electrojet current in the ionosphere (1949).

Calculation of cosmic ray effects on meteorites, followed by first measurements of their ages (1952).

Design of Minimum Orbital Unmanned Satellite (MOUSE), (1952-1954). Design of sensing instruments for MOUSE, including the first instrument for measuring stratospheric ozone (1956), now used in satellites.

First publications predicting the existence of trapped radiation in the earth's magnetic field (radiation belts, later discovered by Van Allen) to explain the magnetic-storm ring current (1956).

Design of the high-altitude FARSIDE rocket, to search for geomagnetically trapped radiation (1956).

Capture theory for the origin of the Moon and of the Martian satellites, Phobos and Deimos (1966).

Design study of Martian exploration by way of a manned base on Phobos/Deimos (Ph-D Project) (1977-78)

 First calculation of methane increase due to population growth, and its effects on the stratosphere (1971). The theory serves as a paradigm for CFC-stratosphere effects. While developed in connection with the SST controversy, it is now of importance for both greenhouse warming and ozone depletion theories.

Theory for the behavior of world oil prices, and prediction in 1980 of the price collapse of 1983.

Discovery of orbiting debris clouds, using instruments on the LDEF satellite (1990).

 

Books and Monographs(Partial List)

Global Effects of Environmental Pollution (Reidel, 1970) Manned Laboratories in Space (Reidel, 1970) Is There an Optimum Level of Population? (McGraw-Hill, 1971) The Changing Global Environment (Reidel, 1975) Arid Zone Development (Ballinger, 1977) Economic Effects of Demographic Changes (Joint Economic Committee, U.S. Congress, 1977) Cost-Benefit Analysis in Environmental Decisionmaking (Mitre Corp, 1979) Energy (W.H. Freeman, 1979) The Price of World Oil (Annual Reviews of Energy, Vol. 8, 1983) Free Market Energy (Universe Books, 1984) Oil Policy in a Changing Market (Annual Reviews of Energy, Vol. 12, 1987) The Ocean in Human Affairs (Paragon House, 1989) The Universe and Its Origin: From Ancient Myths to Present Reality and Future Fantasy (Paragon House, 1990) Global Climate Change: Human and Natural Influences (Paragon House, 1989) The Greenhouse Debate Continued (ICS Press, 1992) The Scientific Case Against the Global Climate Treaty (SEPP, 1997) Hot Talk, Cold Science: Global Warming's Unfinished Debate, (The Independent Institute, 1997)

Articles

More than 400 technical publications in scientific, economics, and public policy journals.

More than 200 articles and editorials in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Chicago Tribune, Newsday, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Newsweek, New Republic, National Review,, Readers' Digest, and other publications.

Source

Among the articles was "What to Do About Greenhouse: Look before you leap" which he co authored with Al Gore mentor Roger Revelle. Which lead legal action when he was slandered for refusing to take Dr Revelle's name off the research as requested by friends of Al Gore. Which Singer won.

The man who has been involved in science on many levels for over 60 years obviously knows nothing. And Giles. Please remind us what Al Gore credentials are?

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

missed a couple of his publications

Epa and the Science of Environmental Tobacco Smoke

http://tobaccodocume...

SCIENCE, ECONOMICS, AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY:
A CRITICAL EXAMINATION

http://tobaccodocume...

and another place his resume is posted:

http://tobaccodocume...

 

 

 

 

Giles more far-left sites?

Tobaccodocuments.org

$$$ Funded by Smokescreen Corporation

- Michael Tacelosky, Smokescreen Corporation - Donated $3000 to the DNC
- Keith Ivey, Smokescreen Corporation - Donated $600 to John Kerry, $300 to Barrack Obama

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Scanned documents for court

But, obviously, the scanning machines must be liberally biased then.

The Second Hand Smoke Myth and the Nanny State

Exaggerating the health risks of second hand smoke just to scare the public into accepting reduced freedoms in exchange for Nanny state guidance is typical liberal propaganda. Smoking is legal, if people choose to smoke that is their problem. Owning an establishment that allows indoor smoking is up to the owner just as it is up to the customer to go to that establishment. Conservatives are grown-ups and can take responsibility for their own actions we don't need Nanny state guidance.

Myth: Secondhand Smoke Is a Killer (John Stossel, 20/20)
Study Says Danger of Secondhand Smoke Exaggerated (National Center for Policy Analysis)
The Bogus 'Science' of Secondhand Smoke (The Washington Post)
The Hazards of a Smoke-Free Environment (CNSNews)
The Second-Hand Smoke Charade (CATO Institute)
Please Do Smoke, If You Like (CATO Institute)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

PT Isn't it

PT Isn't it interesting to follow the links in places like the tobacco scare sites and exxon secrets?

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Very Interesting

Distortion and proganda is the only thing they have because they would lose having a real scientific debate.

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Been out all day. See I

Been out all day. See I missed a lot more distortion.

And then he thinks he won.

I saw something really bizarre over at RealClimate before I left. I'll go make sure I saw what I think I saw.  

Have fun.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Found it. Realclimate's

Found it. Realclimate's response to a question concerning cooling during the 1940's etc. Page

 Not all aerosols are the same. Some, such as black carbon released by coal burning, actually have a surface warming impact. Sulphate aerosols and secondarily nitrate aeresols, which do have a surface cooling impact, increased substantially in burden from the 1940s through the 1970s, decreasingly markedly with the passage of the Clean Air Acts of the 1970s and 1980s.

This is starting to look like the NERC debates. Seems they're already editing out posts. How long before thay close it and claim a victory?

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Interesting choice of non-science

Interesting choice of non-science sites/cites. FYI, they all seem to reference one study;arguing the interpretation of the data, not providing any counter evidence.

Still side stepping your

Still side stepping your contention. Normally that means you lose?

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

no

I've cited court docs, from the discovery phase.

The rebuttal is from opinion sites arguing the issue of second hand smoke - 

My cites support  the 'contention' that PT isn't citing a complete history of Singer's publications - so maybe asking him why would further the discussion.

 

Having been an

Having been an administrator. You can find my name on a several court documents. Including during the discovery phase. And I've had to take the stand. So???? It doesn't mean you did anything wrong. But apparently you don't understand that. It's your way to defame someone. Guilt by association. Until it's Al Gore's name. And his name is also in there. I saw it. (Remember you gave us the link.) (H--- I had to respond to those da--- discovery phase filings.)

You still sidestep the issue. Your contention was proven wrong. You lose. And running to another subject is what you're doing. Trying to defame a man. Because you were proven wrong. Sore loser.

In case you missed my citation of a court case. It wasn't in the discovery phase it was the outcome. There's a difference between the two. Or, do you understand the difference?

BTW I should warn you. In my long varied career I spent 9 years as an officer of the courts. I've seen courts in action from both sides. You're going to have to have something more than a guilt by association for me. (Heck if you look through some of my responses to  discovery phases. You can find the poor retarded girl that swept the floor. (If she wasn't hiding.) And lots and lots of others. I gave everything. Relevant or not.)

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

My cites support

My cites support  my 'contention' that PT isn't citing a complete
history of Singer's publications - so maybe asking him why would
further the discussion.

These are missing, publicly available, publications. Most specifically written for public reading and many written more recently than his scientific published work. It is interesting you'd want to claim I'm defaming the author - there is no false claim being put forth.

Do they project a different POV or provide an alternate slant to his character? Or just a more complete picture?

To clarify, PT's list of publications is a bit Weemsian.

Interesting that you bring up Al Gore after complaining that I was changing subject....

Your statement was. " . An

Your statement was. " . An author search in ProQuest shows 15 articles since 1984; mostly WSJ, Consumers' Research, Insight on the News, and a short letter to the editor in Nature." Several of us showed  Singer's vita. And you want to criticize someone for not showing a complete list....

That is absurd....

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

posting an incomplete 'vita'

In posting an incomplete 'vita', with not randomly chosen entries but  selected ones, PT is presenting an incomplete and biased version of Singer's writings.

Fine, if you want a Weemsian version, but if one is studying a person's effect on policy formation it behooves one to know as much as possible about his thoughts and ideas and how they are expressed.

It is another version of the cherry-picking done to forward a case that needs tricks like that to best present it.

And the questions are still unanswered; Why not include them? Why specifically exclude them?

You're a mind reader

You're a mind reader now?You can divine what's in someones thoughts. 

Gheese, you are the king of incomplete and cherry picked data. I've pointed out some of your obvious cherry picked data yet you don't seem to know enough to see your own cherry pick.

You ignore things presented and complain it isn't good enough then give us a highly scientific website from a cartoonist. Or a guilt by association hit group.

If you want to see the king of cherry picking incompetence, look in a mirror. Provided it doesn't break.

You shot your mouth off. Were proven wrong.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

'You're a mind reader now?'

I am going to assume that 'You're a mind reader now?' comes from: "...it behooves one to know as much as possible about his thoughts and ideas and how they are expressed."

Which doesn't take that much of a close read to understand that we're talking about learning his thought through reading his writing.  Perhaps you're just trying to be obtuse to form an argument.

Perhaps it is from; '..PT is presenting an incomplete and biased version ..' but I'm not proposing a rationalization from his POV; He can certainly explain why the documents I listed weren't presented in his lists.  As I've written; 'And the questions are still unanswered; Why not include them? Why specifically exclude them?'

I don't see where 'proven wrong ' comes from; I cited documents and discussed how to find writings that were not presented as evidence of Singer's standing in the halcyon ranks of the delayers. The reader can use those WSJ opinion writings and other pieces as they wish to expand the picture originally presented. I merely filled in gaps from two areas he missed or chose not to include.


Note to the audience - Who has tossed out the insults? Good debate technique....

Let's see. You made a

Let's see. You made a contention, that the man had no relevant scientific expertise. Several of us pointed to much of his history.

You ignored that. Then changed the subject attempting a guilt by association, due to his name coming up in a legal proceeding in discovery filings. I didn't see where he was found guilty of falsifying anything. Last time I looked a discovery filing does not prove guilt of anything.

In the case of Dr Lancaster, when Dr Revelle died, Al Gore and Dr Lancaster requested of Singer that Dr Revelle's name be taken off a work  he wrote with Singer and Star.

Al Gore at that point was running for VP. And it was embarassing that his mentor had participated in a work critical of AGW. And Al Gore's stance.

When Singer refused. (Dr Revelle's family did not request.) Dr Lancaster "at a memorial symposium for Dr. Revelle at Harvard in the fall of 1992 and in a lengthy footnote to his written remarks at that event, he suggested that Dr. Revelle had not really been a coauthor and made the ludicrous claim that I had put his same on the paper as a coauthor “over his objections.” He later added the charge that I had pressured an aging and sick colleague, suggesting that Dr. Revelle’s mental capacities were failing at the time.8 Subsequently, Dr. Anthony D. Socci, a member of Senator Gore’s staff, made similar outrageous accusations in a lengthy letter to the publishers of the Geyer volume, requesting that the Cosmos article be dropped.9 Neither the editors nor the publishers consented to the requests (near demands) of Lancaster and Socci."

Dr Lancaster later recanted.

Dr Singer has long been a critic of AGW. Co-wrote an article critical of AGW with Al Gores mentor Roger Revelle. And has been attacked for standing up.

Like Dr Lancaster and Al Gores office. There is an attempt at slandering a man who has given 60 years of his life to science.

 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Obtuseness

I have not said Singer 'had no relevant scientific expertise. '

Obviously, it was with some perception of his name that he was asked to write papers on the
secondhand tobacco smoke health hazards and provided access to the pages of Wall Street Journal .

I
have pointed out that PT did not present a full picture of Singer's
writings. First, he listed a few recent publications, then added a longer list of older stuff.  If he can be bothered to cite work from  1950's, he could
have, in the interests of scholarly honesty and completeness, posted
the later stuff.as well.

I'm not sure what you're even talking about with the documents from http://tobaccodocume... . The case dealt with how the tobacco companies worked to obfuscate the research on health hazards.

That the items I cited don't allow as Weemsian a picture of the man as you wish is your problem.

 

More Giles Propaganda

Giles you directly implied that Dr. Singer has not published anything relevant to science but instead just some op-eds and then are trying to dishonestly smear him about Second Hand Smoke.  I on the other hand have presented EXTENSIVE evidence of Dr. Singer's scientific publications which clearly shows he has both been involved in science relating to the planet and atmosphere from 1949-Today.

My Citations go from 1949-2007. Are you programmed to lie?

Dr. Singer has published over 400 scientific pubications! I said the list was "INCOMPLETE" - or did you miss that too? Only you and your delusional propagandist friends think the discussion of second hand smoke has ANY relevance to the science of the planet, climate change and global warming.

The items you cite you do to in an attempt to smear the honorable Dr. Singer who if you actually READ his work even on SHS clearly bases it on scientific findings. But to someone as mentally ill as yourself even having a scientific debate on SHS would only be performed by those who are dishonest and evil.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Nope.

Nope. Only posted links to the documents and where to find other writings you chose to not post. Other people may post on different issues.

You might want to discuss why you made that decision, rather than ascribe incorrect assumptions to my writing. Don't conflate the arguments.

And it certainly is nice having the discussion drop to insulting rather than proving your point.

 

 

" "Most global warming sceptics have no productive
alternatives; they say it is a hoax, or that it will cause severe
social problems, or that we should allocate resources elsewhere," he
wrote.

 

"Scientifically, they have not put forward a compelling, rich, and variegated theory.

"And until that happens, to expect the government, or
any source of scientific funding, to give as much money, attention, or
room within academic journals to the alternatives, seems completely
misguided."" On a discussion on bias in research http://news.bbc.co.u...

 

 

Giles are you mentally insane?

You posted to Dr. Singer's resume which was already posted! You then post to documents about SHS which HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GLOBAL WARMING DEBATE! Maybe I should start linking to any traffic tickets Dr. Singer received and the court documents for them. Sorry I INTENTIONALLY did not do that too!

We might want to discuss why you are mentally insane but we already know why.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

"Only you and your

"Only you and your delusional propagandist friends think the discussion
of second hand smoke has ANY relevance to the science of the planet,
climate change and global warming."

The discussion of second hand smoke is relevant to climate science because the same tactics used to mislead the public on the dangers of tobacco are used to mislead the public on climate change science. Even some of the same scientists (Fred Seitz was an example) that led the mis-information campaigns for the tobacco companies are now doing the same thing with climate change science. Don't believe it? Here is a great article by the Union of Concerned Scientists:

http://www.ucsusa.or...

Notice that Fred Singer is affiliated with 11, yes 11, organizations that are funded by Exxon-Mobil. Oh, but I'm sure Union of Concerned Scientists are "far-left smear merchants" so we can't believe anything they say.... right PT?

And who does the funding of

And who does the funding of the alarmist scientists, hmm?

Can't argure the science? 

Can't argure the science?  Hell!  That's no problem!  Just smear the impartiality of the researchers we don't like and then ignore the massive financial conflicts of interest our side has.

Has it ever occurred to you to ask if the massive government grants all the AGW alarmists receive might have any effects on their objectivity?  Like, maybe reporting to the Congress there is no serious problem here is going to get these grants renewed or increased?  Right?  The Alarmists have a DIRECT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE to report an alarm.

Let me translate that for

Let me translate that for you. You can't refute Dr Singers life of science, so you attack him. So you were less than correct with your earlier statements.

BTW You might want to talk to Justin Lancaster about slandering Dr Singer.

Statement by Justin Lancaster

 I retract as being unwarranted any and all statements, oral or written, I have made which state or imply that Professor Revelle was not a true and voluntary coauthor of the Cosmos article, or which in any other way impugn or malign the conduct or motives of Professor Singer with regard to the Cosmos article (including but not limited to its drafting, editing, publication, republication, and circulation). I agree not to make any such statements in future. ... I fully and unequivocally retract and disclaim those statements and their implications about the conduct, character, and ethics of Professor Singer, and I apologize to Professor Singer for the pain my conduct has caused him and for any damage that I may have caused to his reputation.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

The Dr. Singer Collection (Incomplete)

Giles and Meteor can lie and pretend Dr. Singer is not a 'relevant' scientist, has not published papers relating to the issue, has not published "enough" papers or is active in the scientific debate, the evidence speaks for itself...

Books:

Global Effects of Environmental Pollution (S. Fred Singer, 1970)
Arid Zone Development: Potentialities and Problems (S. Fred Singer, 1977)
The Ocean in Human Affairs (S. Fred Singer, 1989)
Global Climate Change: Human and Natural Influences (S. Fred Singer, 1989)
The Greenhouse Debate Continued: An Analysis and Critique of the IPCC (S. Fred Singer, 1992)
The Scientific Case Against the Global Climate Treaty (S. Fred Singer, 1997)
Hot Talk, Cold Science: Global Warming's Unfinished Debate (S. Fred Singer, 1997)
Climate Policy--From Rio to Kyoto: A Political Issue for 2000--And Beyond (S. Fred Singer, 2000)
Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years (S. Fred Singer, 2007)
Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years - Updated and Expanded Edition (S. Fred Singer, 2008)

Papers:

The Specific Ionization of the Cosmic Radiation above the Atmosphere
(Phys. Rev. 76, 701 - 702, Issue 5, September 1949)
- S. Fred Singer

Measurement of the Earth's Magnetic Field at High Altitudes at White Sands, New Mexico
(Phys. Rev. 77, 398 - 399, Issue 3, February 1950)
- S. Fred Singer, E. Maple, W. A. Bowen, Jr.

The Zenith Angle Dependence of the Cosmic Radiation above the Atmosphere at λ=41°N
(Phys. Rev. 77, 729 - 730, Issue 5, March 1950)
- S. Fred Singer

The Primary Specific Ionization and Intensity of the Cosmic Radiation above the Atmosphere at the Geomagnetic Equator
(Phys. Rev. 80, 47 - 51, Issue 1, October 1950)
- S. Fred Singer

On the Density Spectrum and Structure of Extensive Air Showers
(Phys. Rev. 81, 579 - 592, Issue 4, February 1951)
- S. Fred Singer

Dynamo Currents and Conductivities in the Earth's Upper Atmosphere
(Nature 170, 1093 - 1094, 27 December 1952)
- S. Fred Singer, E. Maples, W. A. Bowen Jr.

Cosmic Rays and the Sun's Magnetic Field: Diurnal Variation of Cosmic Rays and the Sun's Magnetic Field
(Nature 170, 63 - 64, 12 July 1952)
- S. Fred Singer

Meteorites as Cosmic-Ray Meters
(Phys. Rev. 90, 168 - 168, Issue 1, April 1953)
- S. Fred Singer

Research in the upper atmosphere with high altitude sounding rockets
(Vistas in Astronomy, vol. 2, Issue 1, pp.878-912, 1956)
- S. Fred Singer

A Method for the Determination of the Vertical Ozone Distribution from a Satellite
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 62, p.299, June 1957)
- S. Fred Singer, R.C. Wentworth

Lifetimes of Trapped Radiation Belt Particles Determined by Coulomb Scattering
(Phys. Fluids 2, 499, 1959)
- R. C. Wentworth, W. M. MacDonald, S. Fred Singer

Trapped radiation in the earth's magnetic field
(Ionization Phenomena in Gases, Volume II, p.1187, 1960)
- S. Fred Singer

Properties of the upper atmosphere and their relation to the radiation belts of the earth
(Planetary and Space Science, Vol. 2, p.165, 1960)
- S. Fred Singer

Structure of the Earth's Exosphere
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 65, p.2577, September 1960)
- S. Fred Singer

Distribution of Density in a Planetary Exosphere. II
(Phys. Fluids 4, 221, 1961)
- S. Fred Singer

Energy Dissipation of Spiraling Particles in the Polar Atmosphere
(Arkiv, Geophys. 3:531-538, 1961)
K. Maeda, S. Fred Singer

Interaction of West Ford Needles with Earth's Magnetosphere
(Nature 192, 303 - 306, 28 October 1961)
- S. Fred Singer

Geomagnetically Trapped Electrons from Cosmic-Ray Albedo Neutrons
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 66, p.4027, December 1961)
- A.M. Lenchek, S. Fred Singer, S. F.; R.C. Wentworth

Effects of Trapped Particles on the Geomagnetic Field
(Advances in Geophysics, Volume 9, p.132, 1962)
- John R. Apel, S. Fred Singer, Robert C. Wentworth

Effects of the Finite Gyroradii of Geomagnetically Trapped Protons
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 67, p.4073, September 1962)
- A.M. Lenchek, S. Fred Singer

Geomagnetically Trapped Protons from Cosmic-Ray Albedo Neutrons
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 67, p.1263, April, 1962)
- A.M. Lenchek, S. Fred Singer

Observing coronal emission and absorption by means of atomic oxygen in the high atmosphere
(NASA, Aug 1, 1963)
- S. Fred Singer

Distribution of Density in an Ion-Exosphere of a Nonrotating Planet
(Phys. Fluids 7, 1775, 1964)
- Aharon Eviatar, Allen M. Lenchek, S. Fred Singer

The research potential of manned earth orbiting spacecraft in the field of meteorology
(NASA, Jan 1, 1965)
- S. Fred Singer

Thermal escape of neutral hydrogen and its distribution in the Earth's thermosphere
(Planetary and Space Science, Vol. 14, p.541, 1966)
- Mordehai Liwshitz, S. Fred Singer

Research in atmospheric measurement techniques
(NASA, Nov 1, 1966)
- S. Fred Singer

Zodiacal Dust and Deep-Sea Sediments
(Science, Vol. 156. no. 3778, pp. 1080 - 1083, 26 May 1967)
- S. Fred Singer

Measurement of atmospheric surface pressure with a satellite-borne laser
(Applied Optics IP, vol. 7, Issue 6, p.1125, 1968)
- S. Fred Singer

Microwave Detection of Precipitation over the Surface of the Ocean
(Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 73, p.3324, May 1968)
- S. Fred Singer

Is There an Optimum Level of Population?
(Science, Vol. 166. no. 3902, pp. 270 - 271, 10 October 1969)
- S. Fred Singer

Reducing the Environmental Impact of Population Growth
(Science, Vol. 169. no. 3951, p. 1233, 18 September 1970)
- S. Fred Singer

Environmental pollution in relation to urban planning
(Urban Technology Conference; New York, NY; May 24-26, 1971)
- S. Fred Singer

Stratospheric Water Vapour Increase due to Human Activities
(Nature 233, 543 - 545, 22 October 1971)
- S. Fred Singer

Origin of the moon by tidal capture and some geophysical consequences
(The Moon, Volume 5, Issue 1-2, pp. 206-209, September 1972)
- S. Fred Singer

The possibilities and usefulness of defining optimum population levels.
(International Journal of Health Services 3(4): 617-622, 1973)
- S. Fred Singer

The early history of the earth-moon system
(Earth-Science Reviews, vol. 13, Sept. 1977, p. 171-189, September 1977)
- S. Fred Singer

Is the "nuclear winter" real?
(Nature 310, 625, 23 August 1984)
- S. Fred Singer

Advocacy puts AGU's credibility at risk
(American Geophysical Union, Volume 72, Issue 21, p. 234-234, 1991)
- S. Fred Singer

Warming theories need warning label
(Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Vol/Issue: 48:5, Jun 01 1992)
- S. Fred Singer

Ozone, skin cancer, and the SST
(Aerospace America. Vol. 32, no. 7, pp. 22-26. 1994)
- S. Fred Singer

Environmental hype and hoax
(Environmental Geology, Volume 23, Number 3, April, 1994)
- S. Fred Singer

Analyzing Ultraviolet-B Radiation: Is There a Trend?
(Science, Vol. 264. no. 5163, pp. 1341 - 1342, 27 May 1994)
- Patrick J. Michaels, S. Fred Singer, Paul C. Knappenberger

Earth Day 1970 recalled
(Environmental Geology, Volume 26, Number 4, December, 1995)
- S. Fred Singer

Ozone Assessment Found Wanting
(Science News, Vol. 149, No. 4, p. 51, Jan. 27, 1996)
- S. Fred Singer

Climate Change and Consensus
(Science, Vol. 271. no. 5249, pp. 581 - 582, 2 February 1996)
- S. Fred Singer

Climate debate
(Nature, Volume 382, Issue 6590, pp. 392, 1996)
- S. Fred Singer

Global climate controversy
(JAMA, Vol. 276, Issue 5, 373-374, August 7, 1996)
- S. Fred Singer

Call for emission limits heats debate on global warming
(Physics Today, Volume 50, Issue 8, August 1997, pp.84-85, August 1997)
- S. Fred Singer

Unknowns about climatic variability render treaty targets premature
(American Geophysical Union, Volume 78, Issue 50, p. 584-584, 1997)
- S. Fred Singer

Human Contribution to Climate Change Remains Questionable
(American Geophysical Society, Vol 80, page 183-187, April 20, 1999)
- S. Fred Singer

Sea level rise and global warming
(AGU, Fall Meet. Suppl., Abstract U62A-01, 2000)
- S. Fred Singer

What is Causing the Shrinkage of Arctic Sea Ice?
(American Geophysical Union, Spring Meeting, abstract A52B-05, 2000)
- S. Fred Singer

Has the Climate Warmed Since 1940?
(AGU, Fall Meet. Suppl., Abstract GC32A-0213, 2001)
- S. Fred Singer

Difficulty in reconciling global-warming data
(Nature 409, 281, 18 January 2001)
- S. Fred Singer

Global Warming: An Insignificant Trend?
(Science, Vol. 292. no. 5519, pp. 1063 - 1064, 11 May 2001)
- S. Fred Singer, Donald Kennedy, James D. Johnston

The Puzzle of Global Sea Level Rise
(American Geophysical Union, Spring Meeting, abstract U42A-16, 2002)
- S. Fred Singer

Science Editor Bias on Climate Change?
(Science , vol 301, p. 595, 1 August 2003)
- S. Fred Singer

Altitude dependence of atmospheric temperature trends: Climate models versus observation
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L13208, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

Disparity of tropospheric and surface temperature trends: New evidence
(Geophysical Research Letters, VOL. 31, L13207, 2004)
- David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer, Paul C. Knappenberger, Patrick J. Michaels

Climate Change and Our Energy Future
(Geophysical Research Abstracts, Vol. 8, 11098, 2006)
- S. Fred Singer

Sea Surface Temperatures (SST): Significance and Measurement
(AGU, Jt. Assem. Suppl., Abstract A44A-01, 2006)
- S. Fred Singer

A comparison of tropical temperature trends with model predictions
(International Journal of Climatology, 5 Dec 2007)
- David H. Douglass, John R. Christy, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

PT, LMAO-you call that list "incomplete?"

Just be sure and let us know when it is complete so I can add another gig or two of RAM. :-)

Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!

It will take a while

But I will let you know. : )

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

from 2000

"There is some evidence that the observed shrinking trend has slowed down and may even be reversing during the past few
years, indicating that the ice cover has reached an equilibrium with the current higher temperatures."  What is Causing the Shrinkage of Arctic Sea Ice?

http://nsidc.org/new...

http://nsidc.org/sot...

http://www.gfdl.noaa...

http://earthobservat...

 

 

 

You forgot galactic cosmic

You forgot galactic cosmic rays, that's the cause du jour. Or that volcano.

 

"Those silver-tongued global warming hoaxsters have conned a sheet of Antarctic ice the size of Ireland into going along with their climate change scam. " http://northstatesci...

Gile's nonsense and propaganda

Cosmic Rays is only one of the theories explaining the obvious sun-climate link. As for volcanoes please link to where I mentioned one in the arctic ocean.

You then quote from some random blog that quotes from the DailyKos stating a lie about conservative's "denying global warming". Please try to stop constantly showing your far-left propagandist postions

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

didn't prove anything

Actually, the cosmic ray theory is separate from the 'sun-climate link'.

Since your wind cites really didn't prove anything (see 'not really' below) I suggested that you pursue the cosmic ray theory or perhaps try shifting the blame from anthropogenic CO2 to volcanic activity. Jennifer covers the arctic and antarctic vulcanism well @ http://www.jenniferm...

You're right, there is an 'obvious sun-climate link', it accounts for, oh let's just let a scientist  describe it: ""Our results imply that, over the past century, climate change due to
human influences must far outweigh the effects of changes in the Sun's
brightness,"" http://www.eurekaler... or "Solar variability certainly plays a minor role, but it looks like
only a quarter of the recent variations can be attributed to the Sun." http://solar-center.... or "This paper reinforces the fact that the warming in the last 20 to 40 years can't have been caused by solar activity," and "IPCC's February summary report concluded that greenhouse gases were about 13 times more responsible than solar changes for rising global temperatures." http://news.bbc.co.u... (which also discusses cosmic rays).

I was also negligent in not mentioning water vapor as a cause celebre.

Think of the quote from the 'random blog' as an intermittent feature of my posts - just part of a sig no more biased than quoting Lindzen for example.

'..try to stop constantly showing your far-left propagandist postions (sic)'. So you'd rather stifle discussion only aimed to help you being embarrassed when it is discovered that: http://books.google....

"The sooner and the more decisively we act to usher in the
next generations of buildings, vehicles, fuels and energy,
the greater our chances will be of avoiding the most
dangerous effects of human-caused global warming and
preserving the West we know and love." Citing the report cited by the 'random blog' and DailyKos http://www.nrdc.org/...

The Sun Climate Connection is well Documented

No the cosmic ray theory is directly related to the sun since it is based on the fluctuation of the Sun's magnetic field.

My sources cleary presented a much more obvious explanation for the Arctic summer ice loss = the wind. The arctic ocean and greenland are two different locations, please keep up.

You blog post that quotes from the Daily Kos is slightly different then a quote from Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT.


The sun-climate connection is well documented:

The persistent role of the Sun in climate forcing (The Danish National Space Center)

"...over the past 20 years the solar cycle remains fully apparent in variations both of tropospheric air temperature and of ocean subsurface water temperature. [...]

When the response of the climate system to the solar cycle is apparent in the troposphere and ocean, but not in the global surface temperature, one can only wonder about the quality of the surface temperature record. For whatever reason, it is a poor guide to Sun-driven physical processes that are still plainly persistent in the climate system. [...]

...one cannot distinguish between the effects of anthropogenic gases such as carbon dioxide and of natural greenhouse gases. For example, increased evaporation means that infrared radiation from water vapor, by far the most important greenhouse gas, will tend to provide positive feedback for any global warming, ... In any case, the most recent global temperature trend is close to zero. [...]

The continuing rapid increase in carbon dioxide concentrations during the past 10-15 years has apparently been unable to overrule the °attening of the temperature trend as a result of the Sun settling at a high, but no longer increasing, level of magnetic activity. Contrary to the argument of Lockwood and FrÄohlich, the Sun still appears to be the main forcing agent in global climate change."

100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun's Magnetic Cycles (Science Daily)
Basic physics supports solar activity as cause of global warming (The Guardian, UK)
Canadian Climatologist Says Sun Causing Global Warming (Dennis Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics)
Changes In Sun’s Intensity Tied To Recurrent Droughts In Maya Region (Science Daily)
Cosmic Rays and Climate (The Danish National Space Center)
Cosmic Rays Blamed for Global Warming (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Cosmic Rays 'Linked to Clouds' (BBC)
Cosmic Rays Linked To Global Warming (Science Daily)
Cosmic rays may solve global warming problem (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Cosmoclimatology: A new theory of climate change (The Danish National Space Center)
Evidence For Sun-climate Link Reported By UMaine Scientists (Science Daily)
Fluctuations in the Sun may be changing climate (The Times, UK)
Solar Variability and Climate Change (Willie Soon, Ph.D. Astrophysics)
Exploding Stars Influence Climate Of Earth (Space Daily)
Ice cores show sun, not humans, controlling Earth's climate (Dennis Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics)
It's the Sun, Stupid (Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences)
Holes In Sun's Corona Linked To Atmospheric Temperature Changes On Earth (Science Daily)
NASA Finds Sun-Climate Connection in Old Nile Records (NASA)
NASA Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate (NASA)
New Analysis Shows Earth's Lower Stratosphere In Synch With Solar Cycle (Science Daily)
New Experiment To Investigate Effect Of Galactic Cosmic Rays On Clouds And Climate (Science Daily)
Northern Climate, Ecosystems Driven By Cycles Of Changing Sunlight (Science Daily)
Read the sunspots (Tim Patterson, Ph.D. Professor of Geology)
Regional Variation In Warming From Sun During Solar Cycle Shown By Satellite (Science Daily)
Scientists blame sun for global warming (BBC)
Solar blow to low cloud could be warming planet (Nature News)
Sun's Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms (Space.com)
Sun's Direct Role In Global Warming May Be Underestimated, Duke Physicists Report (Science Daily)
Sun's magnetic flip affects cosmic ray penetration (USA Today)
Sun more active than for a millennium (NewScientist)