It seems the more Barack Obama tries to explain the peculiar statement he made Tuesday concerning his white grandmother's "fear of black men who passed by her on the street," the more he's assuring attention regarding the matter.
Though it remains to be seen how much focus a media clearly looking to move beyond this subject will devote to it, Obama called into a Philadelphia sports radio station on Thursday making comments that, if publicized, might get him in even more trouble with white voters.
As transcribed by Breitbart moments ago (audio available here):
The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.
Wow. Is this really how a "typical white person" behaves? Shame on me for being so cordial all these years to folks I didn't know.
Regardless of my seeming ignorance of how the "typical white person" is supposed to behave around strangers, one wonders if Obama's declaration will be the subject of great debate and discussion by press members in the next 24 hours, or if it will be ignored by media desperately looking to get off this topic for the junior senator's sake?
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Typical Obama
March 20, 2008 - 13:29 ET by NBFHmmm. I predict that the "Typical White Person" remark, made about his Grandma, no less, will be ignored by the liberal media. They probably figure that he has enough trouble right now.
A question to all media, including Fox News...
March 20, 2008 - 15:09 ET by Wilbur747Can anyone define what a "Typical White Person" is? That statement alone is racist. What if I, as a white person said "well, he's a typical black man", what would be the ramifications?
Do you have to ask? They'd
March 20, 2008 - 19:47 ET by CortillaenDo you have to ask? They'd crucify you, of course, right along with plenty of condemnations from the "black community", a phrase I've stated before is indicative of an internal racism.
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no they won't ignore it for
March 20, 2008 - 15:11 ET by red_dragon311no they won't ignore it for that reason
the think it's true so to them it's not even news-worthy.
THATS the issue THATS why it won't get anywhere, to liberals this is "true" the "Typical White Person" IS afraid of thier own shadow, but they (liberals ) are not your "Typical White Person" they are more refined and educated.
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So, now it wasn't because
March 20, 2008 - 13:36 ET by motherbeltWait a minute, Senator: you said she had a fear of "black" men, not "strange" men.
So now, it wasn't because it was a black man, it was because it was someone she didn't know?
Well, Mr. Obama, was she afraid of white men that she didn't know?
Only a "typical white person" is afraid of someone on the street that they don't know?
A "typical black person" (let's say a woman) isn't afraid of someone she doesn't know on the street?
Curoiser and curioser.....
all i can say is Obama keep
March 20, 2008 - 13:47 ET by TruthMongerall i can say is Obama keep talkin:)
No kidding!
March 20, 2008 - 13:59 ET by landsharkI can't say that I understand the physiology but apparently teleprompters keep one's foot from self-inserting into one's mouth.
Wait a minute
March 20, 2008 - 15:05 ET by KC MulvilleBut wasn't it Jesse Jackson who admitted that he got nervous when he saw a cluster of urban youths coming toward him on the street?
Of all the things you can say about Jesse, 'typical white person' just isn't one of them ...
Fear
March 20, 2008 - 13:32 ET by ScrapironThe fact is that if you see on black person on the street there is usually no danger. If you see three or more black people (it used to be only male blacks) you had better give them a wide berth. The media has to 'sometimes" back this up when unwarrented attacks occur. Most 'non-blacks' have learned to avoid a lot of areas in major cities or they die.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Sir, I disagree with you
March 20, 2008 - 23:50 ET by Scout FinchI'm 48 and conservative, female and white, and attend community college. I encounter groups of 2-3-4 or more young black men. I do not fear them. If eye contact is made, I smile friendly-like, as I'd do with anyone who makes eye contact. How can you say "if you see on black person on the street there is usually no danger. If you see three or more black people (it used to be only male blacks) you had better give them a wide berth"? I am sorry for your experiences, but they are not typical of most of us.
Tell me that you will use an
March 21, 2008 - 00:03 ET by NL207Tell me that you will use an ATM machine if you see 2 or 3 young black men loitering about the entrance. Even the black people I know are afraid to do that.
I only use the ATM machine
March 21, 2008 - 00:18 ET by Scout FinchI only use the ATM machine located at my own bank. Never gave that one a thought.
I'd never use my ATM far away from home.
Wow NL. That is an
March 21, 2008 - 10:13 ET by LeonWow NL.
That is an amazing comment.
Leon's example of overt racism on Newsbusters #6.
The count continunes.
So what does this have to
March 21, 2008 - 11:47 ET by NL207So what does this have to with racism? It's sole purpose was to illustrate the absurdity of the prior post by constructing a real-world setting where the poster would most ceratinly be afraid of two or three black men and simply 'smiling at them', as she had indicated in her post, will do nothing except invite disaster. Clearly from her response, it was a thought that had never occurred to her and maybe it is a good thing for her to consider what it might mean if she sees anybody of any color loitering near an ATM.
My post gets an additional point for eliciting an absurd remark from one of our resident fonts of liberal wisdom. Personally, I despise the folks on the left who see everything in Amrica in terms of race, gender, creed, ethnic origin and victimhood. That's YOU, buddy.
I wouldn't use an ATM
March 21, 2008 - 10:38 ET by motherbeltI wouldn't use an ATM where I saw a couple of guys of any color "hanging around".....that's just common sense.
You might live longer than
March 21, 2008 - 11:47 ET by NL207You might live longer than our other poster.
You can get tired of it, but here goes again!
March 20, 2008 - 13:35 ET by PawpawNOBAMA never said GOD BLESS AMERICA! Never in that so-called SPEECH OF OUR LIFETIME! But now he's retacting statements, redefining statements, GUESS he was just VENTING, or we took him out of CONTEXT!
Wait, wait, wait..."typical
March 20, 2008 - 13:37 ET by marpelWait, wait, wait..."typical white person"????? What the heck is that supposed to mean? He apparently wasn't finished with throwing his grandmother under the bus from the other day.
What if George Bush made the statement, "typical black person"?
Anyone want to venture as to what the MSM would do with that "pearl"????
I'm insulted!!! Or, am I all wrong here?
Afternoon marpel... You
March 20, 2008 - 13:46 ET by bigtimerAfternoon marpel...
You saved me the post, beat me to the punch...you aren't wrong...it is outrageous ...the more Obama opens his mouth, the more he is inserting his big foot.
Talk about reverse racism.
I know mb...I shouldn't use the phrase reverse racism, it is just plain racism, but I can't help it...lol.
Btw...did anyone catch his interview last night with Anderson Cooper...it was interesting to say the least, his confidence is gone...POOF!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Hey, Bigtimer, I'm glad to
March 20, 2008 - 13:50 ET by marpelHey, Bigtimer, I'm glad to have my gut feelings validated here. I'm just stunned at this remark. Well, Obama has just been vetted as far as I'm concerned and his vetting didn't go well.
I am hoping that Sean Hannity jumps on this remark.
I didn't see the Anderson Cooper interview. What did he say?
marpel... It really is
March 20, 2008 - 13:57 ET by bigtimermarpel...
It really is something you have to watch to know what I mean...I'll see if I can find a link for you.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
marpel... Here is the
March 20, 2008 - 14:22 ET by bigtimermarpel...
Here is the link to Anderson Cooper and the top three to the left are the interviews I have seen in the last two nights I think it was...anyway...here ya' go.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Bigtimer, I just saw the
March 20, 2008 - 14:35 ET by marpelBigtimer, I just saw the clips (thanks for linking). Anderson Cooper clearly wants to have Barack's baby.
Ya'll gotta remember....
March 20, 2008 - 15:17 ET by Wilbur747that according to many people in the MSM, he can say this without question or reprimand because of the "black experience" with slavery.
Need a good laugh, bt?
March 20, 2008 - 14:02 ET by motherbeltI had already reached for the "reply" button! Then I saw the "I know, mb".... ROFL!! You saw it coming!!
mb.... I am
March 20, 2008 - 14:03 ET by bigtimermb....
I am LMAO!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
...throwing his grandmother
March 20, 2008 - 14:06 ET by PeskyDane...throwing his grandmother under the bus....
Darn, Marpel. You beat me to it. But now its official. This man really will throw is own grandmother under the bus to become president.
I beat you to it because I'm
March 20, 2008 - 14:08 ET by marpelI beat you to it because I'm a "typical white person"....LMAO
anatomy of THE SPEECH-I know AGAIN!
March 20, 2008 - 13:38 ET by PawpawNNo where is there a GOD BLESS AMERICA in his SPEECH of a LIFETIME! What did his speech explain, other than "I'm a politician and want to be powerful and President, so I'm going to appease everyone in a short speech!" Overlooked in the whole thing is he did not say GOD BLESS AMERICA! Here's more on my take: BHO's speech did more to set back race than anything in the last 14 years-only OJ did close to the same. We now know that churches are spewing hatred of America, hatred of the white man, hatred of corp America, etc. The candidate of UNITY has now shattered the fragile layer of race relations by never totally distancing himself from words of pure hatred. His statement of not agreeing is too simple. If you stay in a room full of fleas, you are not able to keep all the fleas off! When you continue in an environment that does not change, it changes you, you do not change it. Really what he said just reiterates some of what Repubs have said for years-programs to make things better do not work. We the people believe it is people that make things work, not government! He spouts about how the blacks and lower class whites have been put down by the rich-this is hatred speech. Some blacks and whites have rose to monetary status because they did not believe they were to be kept by the government, but that they could, with the will of GOD and their own hard work, succeed! He talked of lines in the emergency rooms of hospitals of people without insurance. They don't have it because they won't pay for it! Not because it isn't available! He brings up Dr King, well, to borrow from someone else, BHO you are no MLK! And what did the ASHLEY story have to do with anything. 14 years ago, let's see, Bill Clinton in WH. Poor Ashley's mother had cancer[I'm sorry for her and her family], and he says she lost her job because she missed work and lost her health care. Well if she had health care, it would continue under Cobra for a certain period of time. Ashley ate relish and mustard sandwiches. Did not any church know of Ashley and her mom's fate. My church helps those in need. It's supposed to be a story to inspire, but I read a sign recently that said, "Aspire to inspire before you expire!". Good words to go by. The Ashley story has too many missing components. I've love to know more, know why no one helped in her neighborhood, church, etc. To finish his story he says the elderly black man says only "I'm here because of Ashley", but never really explains it-was it because she went to his home and said come out, or was it because she related the story to him, or just what? The speech was void of any real substance. Lost in it all was his use of the church to talk politics-thought DIMs wanted no "church and state"! He constantly threw in GIVEAWAY programs while saying welfare state has harmed us-total contradiction in own statements. If Rev Wright's statements weren't so bad, why did the website of the church take off some of their mission statement, etc.-again total contradiction. He stated all churches get into talk like this-never been to a church in my life that does and if they did I'd leave! Says he could have just moved on and not addressed this-he knew that was politicial suicide-again total contradiction. He says stagnant wages-where, didn't we increase minimum wage, because of unions, etc, people get raises every year. He says jobs shipped overseas, well how about the reason why-UNIONS. Didn't talk about overseas jobs that come here-take Toyota, & others for example-total contradiction. He spewed hate talk himself about conservatives and Reagan Coalition, etc.-total contradiction to his supposed message. Why say "a candidacy as imperfect as my own." Looking for sympathy vote! Then again went in bad welfare state then straight into govt giveaway programs-total contradiction. Said Rev Wright had CONSERVATIVE ideas-wow, where did that come from-TOTAL CONTRADICTION! When he said "We have a choice in this country", he went into listing OJ trail, Katarina, etc., all statements to inflame, racial statements-total contradiction to his message! He spoke of shuttered businesses-but failed to note reason they're shuttered is because they did not keep up with technology, not becuase of anything bad-TOTAL CONTRADICTION. He talked of HOMES taken away-they were taken away because the people tried to live over theimeans!-total contradiction. His perfecting the USA statement lost the fact that we will not be perfected till we put the past behind us, learn from it and go on-the Old Testament is history, we learn from it-the NEW TESTAMENT gave us JESUS CHRIST and how to live. He ended on some story that had no beginning and no end-no story. And never a GOD BLESS AMERICA! That's one man's opinion!
Paw! Take a deep
March 20, 2008 - 13:53 ET by bassndudePaw! Take a deep breath....again...there ya go. What was it said a long time ago? Something about pearls and swine. I do think he was speaking of people like Obama and his Mrs. and his so called reverend.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
With all due respect Paw,
March 20, 2008 - 14:06 ET by QueenMumWith all due respect Paw, your lengthy diatribes are getting monotonous. I think we all agree that Obama didn't address the real problem with his association with Rev. Wrong. And I think we all agree that Obama is looking more and more like an America-hating Bolshevik (to borrow from Bill Cunningham). No need to repeat the argument ad infinitum.
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He better get Bill Withers to sing "GRANDMA'S HANDS" or granny
March 20, 2008 - 13:41 ET by PawpawNBHO better get Bill Withers to sing "GRANDMA'S HANDS" or he may be getting Granny's hands on his butt!
His Interviewer fawns over Obama
March 20, 2008 - 13:41 ET by Pasco ConservativeListen to the end of the interview, too. The radio personality exclaims Obama "exudes charisma...."
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any
man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
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Poor Obama
March 20, 2008 - 14:05 ET by candanceTo borrow a line from Chandler Bing:
My God, this parachute is nothing but a knapsack!
Noel, I really resent being
March 20, 2008 - 13:42 ET by bassndudeNoel, I really resent being refered to as a "typical white person". I an not typical by any defination. Ask my wife. She is constantly reminding me of what typical white people do. Or is it just husbands?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Obama plays the Hole Card.
March 20, 2008 - 13:45 ET by Jack BauerOh gawd.
Obama plays the Hole Card. As in... he's in it and he keeps digging.
World's worst Grandson.. OFFICIAL!!
What exactly is a typical white person?
March 20, 2008 - 14:03 ET by R D HelmBut she is a typical white person.
I wonder what the reaction would be if John McCain had called up this very same show and used the term typical black person?
I'm guessing the lefties would be pitching a fit right about now.
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Given the biraciality of BHO, and ever since I heard about his granny story, I cannot help but wonder...
When he is standing on a Chicago street corner and sees three black gang-bangers approaching, does only the white half of him become apprehensive?
What about when three white gang-bangers come near him, does his black half then get nervous?
Is he somehow suggesting that either of the above reactions is wrong? Or only the former reaction?
I'd love for some reporter to ask him about this.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
A Typical White Armed Texan with a permit, isn't scared of
March 20, 2008 - 14:03 ET by JayTeeA Typical White Armed Texan with a right to carry permit, is NOT scared of Mexicans, Italians, African Americans, Greeks, Al Queda, Shiites, Sunnis, other white people, Grandmas, Grandpas, Uncles, Aunts, Gang bangers, the POPE, or the GD Pastor Wright.
But if you're in Baltimore, downtown at night, and you can't RENT a Gun, Be Scared....because the City doesn't want you to have one, and neither does DC . . . but that may change shortly.
sweet patootie--Baltimore???
March 20, 2008 - 14:15 ET by misterbillsweet patootie--Baltimore??? The many time murder capital of America?? Disarm the public to raise the number of murders??
I got it, I got it---population control, right?? Why else??
That would probably save some Lives of Black Americans
March 20, 2008 - 20:37 ET by JayTeeA concealed weapon permit, in Baltimore, DC, or Killidelphia might go a long way to cut down the Black on Black Murder rate, Burgulary, etc..etc..crime in General.
It's no fun breaking into houses against Armed Citizens, or Car jacking College Co-eds who shoot back.
Now there is some CHANGE and Hope for lower Crime that BHO can pursue, so the Typical White person isn't so Scared, and Jesse Jackson would feel safer.
But she is a typical
March 20, 2008 - 14:06 ET by MidAmericaBut she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.
I'm no psychologist and I've never played one on TV but this statement sounds like a case of projection. He is projecting his self doubts onto 'white strangers' whom he imagines are looking down on him because of his blackness. This could come from being separated from his Kenyan father and raised by the 'white' side of his family. A group of people that he could never really be fully one of them.
»→ Typical White Person
March 20, 2008 - 14:11 ET by Cool ArrowSeems a "typical white person" shouldn't be alarmed when falsely accused of purposedly infecting a race of people with the AIDS virus.
Now we've got a bunch of talking heads telling us matter-of factly Rev. Wright is mainstream?
Some of these are White journalists making this accusation, and the deafening silence from African American preachers who should be shouting, "This is not us. This is not the Black community!!"
Where is that outrage?
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Hi, CoolArrow... That
March 20, 2008 - 14:14 ET by marpelHi, CoolArrow... That outrage is bunking up with the outrage from the Muslim community over 9/11.
they have the same problem
March 20, 2008 - 14:18 ET by TruthMongerthey have the same problem we have - the MSM won't re-broadcast un-approved outrage:)
There you have it,
March 20, 2008 - 14:12 ET by QueenMumThere you have it, friends.
Typical white person = xenophobe
Liberalism 101
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»→ QueenMum
March 20, 2008 - 14:18 ET by Cool ArrowThought you might appreciate this from TIME.
Obama is counting on voters to accept nuance in an arena that almost always rewards simplicity over complexity.
I know these are already inscribed in THE TOME, but I was wondering if you already had examples of their clear usage.
Just trying to help get it to press.
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Thank you, Cool One. I
March 20, 2008 - 14:23 ET by QueenMumThank you, Cool One. I certainly appreciate your input and promise to award you handsomely for your contributions. The contract's in the mail.
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Concise!
March 20, 2008 - 16:10 ET by NBFYou nailed it.
"...or be ignored by media
March 20, 2008 - 14:23 ET by Chris Norman"...or be ignored by media looking desperately to get off this topic?"
I think they'll behave as the "typical" media. They'll ignore it and hope it all goes away.
The New Clayton Williams
March 20, 2008 - 14:25 ET by JoelCTObama is slowly slipping into the land of Clayton Williams. Next time he is interviewed, he'll say, "My Grandma, when she saw a stranger on the street, was afraid that it was inevitable, and she was just going to have to lay back and enjoy it.
I knew that once he was pressured into given real answers with substance, we'd find out he was a political hack.
»→ Ahhh yes, Clayton Williams
March 20, 2008 - 14:31 ET by Cool ArrowAnd the result of his gaffe was the first Woman Governor since Ma Ferguson. Ferguson by the way, was elected as a show of support for her disgraced husband.
Remind you of anyone - Craig Ferguson "Latenight" (no relation to Ma and Pa Ferguson)
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Ma Richards
March 20, 2008 - 14:42 ET by JoelCTMa Richards was a different kind of Democrat Governor. Instead of just taxing us to death and telling us to live with it, she snuck in increases in fees everywhere she could, then bragged about not raising taxes.
She is the reason it costs $75 to renew the $2 license tag on my car. She is the reason you have to take out a second mortgage on your house to rent a car at Avis or go to a State Park in Texas.
Amen, Joel. My family
March 20, 2008 - 15:03 ET by marpelAmen, Joel. My family referred to her as "the old drunk".
»→ JoelCT
March 20, 2008 - 15:05 ET by Cool ArrowThis is something I argued right here at NB with those who tried to tell me Mitt Romney's "fee increases" weren't the same as taxes.
Even when it quacks like one.
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Ma and Pa Ferguson were
March 20, 2008 - 15:59 ET by Gary P JacksonMa and Pa Ferguson were from here in Temple. Their "Mansion" is in the historical district, and has a marker. It's privately owned, and not particulary well cared for by the family that lives there. Kind of a fitting end, actually.
The story goes that Ferguson, who raised cattle, would take folks who wanted pardons for prisoners, out to his place and sell them one of the herd!
Another world
March 20, 2008 - 14:30 ET by SeptemberI think Grandma was a typical woman--which might be taken as insulting to women if Obama had said such, of course. He is painting with generalities but missing one point: That for a woman the world is scarier on the whole. We are smaller, weaker, and men can be predators and can be aggressive.
We are easy prey and the smart move for a woman is to learn to watch out for herself especially if she's alone. She needs to go with her instincts and if she's wrong about a person (and they are not a threat) then she can apologize later.
Grandma was being smart. He should hold her up as a savvy woman who could take care of herself--and him--although she was just a "typical white" person.
The more Obama speaks the more it seems to me he's never thought things through in his life and for someone running for prez---yikes!
Typical White Person or Typical Older Person
March 20, 2008 - 14:48 ET by The SquigglerAs you age, you become more wary of anyone who might present a threat, real or perceived. You realize your limitations, that you can't run as fast to get away, you no longer have the strength needed to successfully fight off an attack. How does this translate to racism? It is just being smart and cautious and knowing your own abilities.
I can only imagine the
March 20, 2008 - 14:56 ET by CutterI can only imagine the firestorm of controversy if John Mcain had uttered this seemingly innocuous phrase.
Let's see how the MSM tip-toes around this.
Obviously racism is a
March 20, 2008 - 14:53 ET by mattmObviously racism is a one-way street.
Dead end, too.
March 20, 2008 - 15:29 ET by Chris NormanDead end, too.
Just a little off thread,
March 20, 2008 - 14:53 ET by misterbillJust a little off thread, but it still rankles me:
Lynn Sweet--Chicago Sun Times
"Obama's physique is old news to Chicago Sun-Times readers. I've worked out several times next to Obama at the East Bank Club, but alas, could not follow him into the locker room."
This has made me doubly angry-- to think that someone who reports the news (I just made that up--I think I will call it Journalism) is pathetically demonstrating what us ignorant men have been accused of all these years, (justifiably) of having our brains down in our pants.
Secondly--This is professional journalism???? RIGGGHHHTT!
Hey misterb... Lynn Sweet
March 20, 2008 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerHey misterb...
Lynn Sweet has been sweet on Obama from day one...
I agree with your anger too...
Journalist my arse...msm/paper Obama supporter, in her eyes he can do no wrong!
Great seeing you here...missed ya!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I know how the Liberal Americans will respond....
March 20, 2008 - 14:58 ET by NavyBuckeyeI am sitting here at my computer and told my wife(lib) what he just said. This next thing really irks me and makes me wonder how I ever get along with my wife....she actually goes "So...he's right. That's what I think." So I say "You don't think people of any race, think that of any scary stranger?" She replied "No".
So as we can see.....this will not get anywhere. I truly believe most people have so much "white guilt" that they truly believe this rabble.
It scares me, that so many people out there will think like my wife. It scares me that they accept this BS. I asked her if GW said "Well the typical black person.....fill in the blank"................you know what she said "He can't say crap like that he's the President and that would be completely racist!"
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I must be in hell.
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
Navybuckeye. I feel your
March 20, 2008 - 15:02 ET by CutterNavybuckeye. I feel your pain. Advice. Punch out, bro and watch your six!
Then she would...
March 20, 2008 - 15:05 ET by NavyBuckeyejust blame it on my vagina envy...lol.
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
OH MY! I am the
March 20, 2008 - 15:11 ET by QueenMumOH MY!
I am the exotic Queen Mum, and I approved this message.
LOL...Poor fella'.... I
March 20, 2008 - 15:32 ET by bigtimerLOL...Poor fella'....
I can't imagine being married to a lefty...talk about patience being a virtue.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BigTimer, that is my next
March 20, 2008 - 15:38 ET by marpelBigTimer, that is my next question after "Are you married?"...LOL.
2. Are you Liberal or Conservative?
No just bad NAVY judgement!!
March 20, 2008 - 16:50 ET by Wilbur747Kidding of course Swabbie!!! Kudos to your wife for putting up with what we all had to go through!
I know that Navy pukes tend to be led by their...well.. tailhooks.
Just so you know that we of the Air Force persuasion...never, EVER leave our real names!
In the unlikely event we get airborne, we'll treat it as an airborne emergency, bring it back around VFR and after stopping we'll evacuate upwind of the the smoke, count heads and flips to see who buys the first round.
No just bad NAVY judgement!!
March 20, 2008 - 16:42 ET by Wilbur747sorry 'bout the double post...fat fingers and an over sensitive track ball..
I know. I'm blaming others.
"It scares me, that so many
March 20, 2008 - 16:02 ET by ckc1227"It scares me, that so many people out there will think like my wife. It scares me that they accept this BS."
Well, just make sure your wife knows that election day is on a Wednesday.
ckc... ROFLMAO! "Never
March 20, 2008 - 16:11 ET by bigtimerckc...
ROFLMAO!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
http://newsbusters.org/blogs
March 20, 2008 - 16:37 ET by red_dragon311http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/03/20/obama-grandma-typical-white-person-fearing-everyone-she-doesnt-know#comment-572724
I touched on that very thing...libs feel that it's true, not news so "move along nothing to see here"
(please don't take this as a dig on your wife, mine said pretty much the same thing )
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Everyone Sing Along
March 20, 2008 - 15:19 ET by candanceSing with me, everyone...
grandma got run over by Obama
after she was hounded on the street
you can say Barack's not really racist
but as for me and Limbaugh, we believe
ROFLMAO!
March 20, 2008 - 15:21 ET by R D HelmTheme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Candance, You should send
March 20, 2008 - 15:23 ET by LeonCandance,
You should send that to Newsbusted.
I hear they pay $50 for lame jokes.
Personally show up Leon and
March 20, 2008 - 15:25 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarPersonally show up Leon and they'll hand you the $50 directly.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Ignatz, I said lame
March 20, 2008 - 15:28 ET by LeonIgnatz,
I said lame jokes...I only write gold.
Furthermore, I've inquired several times as to when the next NB happy hour will be held.
I couldnt go to the last one due to work.
Are you implying I should be scared to show up? Ha.
Doubt it.
I can't wait to show everyone how pretty I am!
come on Leon
March 20, 2008 - 15:27 ET by candanceIf that were true you could quit your day job.
Cha-Ching! That's another
March 20, 2008 - 15:29 ET by LeonCha-Ching!
That's another $50 for you!
Ha. The zingers keep on coming!
There's that...
March 20, 2008 - 16:47 ET by Wilbur747There's that damned fly again!
Just like a fly...Leon buzzes around, drops poop and buzzes off agian.
What was that noise? Oh yea...Leon! Where's my flyswatter!
cd... ROFL! Priceless...
March 20, 2008 - 15:35 ET by bigtimercd...
ROFL!
Priceless....
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Great Quote.
March 20, 2008 - 15:42 ET by somedaysObama has got the revolver in his hand and the hammer is cocked.
Catchy
March 20, 2008 - 15:24 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarLOL
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
That's a keeper CD
March 20, 2008 - 15:25 ET by Cool ArrowDylan got nothing on you.
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Candace, good one! LOL!!
March 20, 2008 - 15:29 ET by marpelCandace, good one! LOL!!
Can
March 20, 2008 - 15:29 ET by Noel SheppardCan,
Delicious!!! ns
yay!
March 20, 2008 - 15:32 ET by candanceI got a delicious! Yay me!
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March 20, 2008 - 15:37 ET by Cool ArrowUse these powers only for good
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CA
March 20, 2008 - 15:51 ET by Noel Sheppard:-)
MidAmerica
March 20, 2008 - 15:24 ET by September"A group of people that he could never really be fully one of them."
You make insightful points. My thought is, having shuffled myself between the "white" world out there (not accurate; we're such a mix nowadays) and the one I grew up in, is that to belong one must choose to belong wherever they are (which might mean deciding to belong to more than one group) or the color of one's skin will forever be the most important life-criterion for accepting oneself.
I grew up in Christian churches where all were welcome. I think it's sad that Obama seems to have never felt he belonged then chose a church where racial identity is so much in the forefront rather than the color-blending teachings of Christ. The ironic thing is Obama is half white. Pity that way back when he did not create a new, original human being of himself which could rise above color identity yet still allow him to feel he was preserving his heritages.
It's like he's not comfortable with himself.
Pastor Wright--mentor, preacher, screecher--was not the best thing that ever happened to Obama and could be the very person who has kept him from becoming the unique, independently-thinking individual he would need to be as President of the United States.
Yeah.... there is a real
March 20, 2008 - 15:56 ET by MidAmericaYeah.... there is a real mystery with obama having been raised by the white side of his family yet he clings to an African Identity Church that at times insults the very people who were his closest kin. He is not willing to disavow that church and it's radical minister even if it will cost him the Presidency. Plus he seems to have married an angry black woman. So his calls to 'heal' the nation sounds like a personal cry from inside himself that he thinks is 'out there'.
McCain will win!
March 20, 2008 - 15:38 ET by somedaysI believe it was Dennis Miller that put forward this idea and I completely agree.
The Democrats lost the election this past week. Why? 1) They have to give Obama the nomination because he won the popular vote. If they don't there will be a BIG split in the party. and 2) Many folks will remember Obama/Wright and "typical white person" remarks. As a white person we can't talk about race because we would be branded as racist. And folks like Wright and dumb comments such as 'typical white person' really slaps "whitey" around. Unfortunately, "whitey" votes.
If John McCain were to issue a statement using the term "typical black person" he would be forced to drop out of the presidential race.
Typical Racist statement
March 20, 2008 - 15:38 ET by CobraManObama didn't mean to imply that his Grandmother is racist. He meant to imply that HE is a racist. He proves this by issuing a blatantly racist statement about "typical white" people and how they react to others who they don‘t know.
According to Obama, a “typical white” person will become afraid and starts making racist statements which he doesn‘t approve and which makes him uncomfortable, just like he said about his Grandmother. In other words, it’s “obvious” that white people are" typically” racists according to Obama. Looks like Obama learned a lot from his “religious advisor,“ eh?
Cobra, According to the
March 20, 2008 - 15:42 ET by LeonCobra,
According to the typical white people on this site, that is indeed the case.
Take this quaint post from an earlier thread today as a nice example:
The fact is that if you see on black person on the street there is usually no danger. If you see three or more black people (it used to be only male blacks) you had better give them a wide berth. The media has to 'sometimes" back this up when unwarrented attacks occur. Most 'non-blacks' have learned to avoid a lot of areas in major cities or they die.
That's almost verbatim what
March 20, 2008 - 15:47 ET by mattmThat's almost verbatim what Jesse Jackson said about 15 years ago.
and? That somehow makes
March 20, 2008 - 15:51 ET by Leonand?
That somehow makes this not an insanely racist comment?
Well, at least you admit
March 20, 2008 - 15:56 ET by ckc1227Well, at least you admit that Jesse is a racist.
No I didn't. I'd need to
March 20, 2008 - 15:58 ET by LeonNo I didn't.
I'd need to see his exact words before I could say that.
Again, I fail to see how Jesse Jackson's words in anyway excuse the blatant racism of this NB poster.
Yes, you did.
March 20, 2008 - 16:05 ET by ckc1227Yes, you did.
Thanks for the chuckle.
March 20, 2008 - 16:06 ET by mattmThanks for the chuckle.
»→ Here you go, Leon
March 20, 2008 - 17:43 ET by Cool ArrowThere is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. -- the Reverend Jesse Jackson, as quoted in US News, 3/10/96
Glad to be of help
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Cool & Leon
March 20, 2008 - 17:51 ET by MrShyLeon, most of the content in your "Fave 5" that you emailed me that you deemed abhorant, shocking racist or racist-esque posts by NB'ers, covers stuff like this. A simple admission of the truth of what people feel when encountering blacks in certain situations, based on very real statistics.
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March 20, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Cool ArrowWhat's a Fave 5? I really would like to be enlightened on this.
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Cool ---> :)
March 20, 2008 - 17:58 ET by MrShyHe put together a "fave 5" of examples of racism, as he perceives it, or at the minimum, hate-filled words towards blacks, by NB'ers. Here were his choice pickings:
http://newsbusters.o...
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»→ Thanks Shy
March 20, 2008 - 18:10 ET by Cool ArrowThose comments are tame compared to Leon's willingness to let slide Obama's $27,000 in donations last year to an admittedly racist organization.
I guess it shows Leon's deep understanding of the nuances in this complex issue. Couldn't for a minute understand Obama's financial support and attendance (including attendance of his young daughters), are both measures of commitment to Rev. Wright's message of bigotry.
Hate speech, it is what it is, regardless of the source.
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Leon's nuts - I'm surprised I didn't make his top five list
March 20, 2008 - 19:14 ET by Dee BunkLeon's nuts - I'm surprised I didn't make his top five list. He could care less about the rude and racist depictions of Condi Rice as Aunt Jemimah and all of the really crude racist stuff that comes from the left.
None of his top five comments said that all African Americans were a certain way yet he implies that they did. Leon is a race baiter
Dee, If he had, he would
March 21, 2008 - 10:24 ET by LeonDee,
If he had, he would know that black men in their late fifties on up, absolutely do not like white folk
or
If you see three or more black people (it used to be only male blacks) you had better give them a wide berth. Most 'non-blacks' have learned to avoid a lot of areas in major cities or they die.
So are you really trying to say that no comment said that all blacks were a certain way?
Why are you defending overt racism? Claiming you will die if you go to certain areas of the city because there are black people there isn't racist?
You're all so wrapped up in your hate of the left, it's turning you insane. The examples I posted are not ok and to defend them shows an utter ignorance what it is to be racist.
Dee - don't feel bad.
March 21, 2008 - 12:34 ET by Free StinkerDee - don't feel bad.
I can't get on Leon's Top Five Enemies List, even though I was able to get on Hater'sTop Five. ;-)
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
It's truly incredible to
March 21, 2008 - 12:37 ET by LeonIt's truly incredible to watch hatred for a presidential candidate totally unhinge an entire website.
Keep on persisting in ignorant and hateful comments. I'll just keep on pointing it out.
»→ Leon
March 21, 2008 - 13:02 ET by Cool ArrowYet it is pathetic to watch the paternalistic, patronizing, condescension of Liberals like Leon who believe true enlightenment is patting their Subjects on the head and giving them a couple of bucks.
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Cool, What is your
March 21, 2008 - 10:25 ET by LeonCool,
What is your point?
Are you claiming that since Obama made a donation to a racist group, the Newsbusters are now allowed to make racist comments about black people?
I'm really not following you.
God, it's sick watching all of you fall all over yourselves trying to defend racism.
Leon
March 21, 2008 - 13:02 ET by RESTLESS 1NB'ers don't defend racism. This is how we deal with racism.
That same day, SeeJay was gone. Most of his racist rants were gone as well. I'm sure the mods here appreciate you suggesting that racism runs rampant on this site, when we have all seen examples of racists being banished. You really need to learn what racism really is.
»→ My point Leon
March 21, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Cool ArrowIs that your vocal support and Obama's financial support of institutionalized racism does great harm to our Country.
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Thong Man, It's not my
March 21, 2008 - 10:19 ET by LeonThong Man,
It's not my fave 5. It's just the first five I found in the 10 minutes of looking I could do at work.
But a fave 5 is a good idea. It's going to take a while to compile every single racist comment over the past week. Once I do that, I can pick the most disgusting examples.
Wrong MrShy. And I'm
March 21, 2008 - 10:17 ET by LeonWrong MrShy.
And I'm shocked you'd even defend those comments.
So the comment that every single black person over 50 hates white people is based on very real statistics?
A simple admission of truth indeed. Unfortunately it's a racist truth.
Saying something racist, then defending it by claiming it's ok b/c it's true IS racism.
Leon
March 21, 2008 - 12:28 ET by MrShyYou're pulling a tripple-whammy, impressive. You're fishing, stretching and spinning:
Fishing -- for anything that might be, at best, an argument for racism, from posts on NB.
I will say, the one about blacks over 50 is ignorant at worst, and the one about watching out for groups of blacks, like 3 or more, is just fear from, yes, people's experiences and statistics of those groups that commit crimes more. A group of blacks (males) will have me thinking more. Period. Has nothing to do with racism. Growing up in NYC, I've been mugged/beaten up about a dozen times or more (lost count) and I think 80% were black, 17% hispanic, 3% white (okay, rough percentages -- the 3% represents one white guy along with a black guy, who threatened me). That's a very concrete statistic, and that's what I was saying about statistics and people's logical, understandable fears based on them.
Stretching -- calling them racists is stretching.
Spinning -- my words. I never said "it's ok b/c it's true". If by the word "true", you're saying that it's simply true that blacks are this way, I made no statement that people said this. I said statistics are real/true.
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Shy, Claiming you should
March 21, 2008 - 12:33 ET by LeonShy,
Claiming you should avoid black areas or you will die is racist
Claiming that all black over 50 hate white people is racist
Claiming that Obama's grandmother was smart to runaway from a black person b/c black people have higher rates of crime is racist.
To defend statements such as this is crazy.
Again, who knew a story about Obama's racist mentor would. instead of demonstrating any racism from him, show your racism.
Sad sad sad.
Leon
March 21, 2008 - 12:45 ET by MrShyFirst off...
Again, who knew a story about Obama's racist mentor would, instead of demonstrating any racism from him, show your racism.
Leon, now it's also MY racism? You're going off the deep end. You just get your kicks rambling on NB and throwing flames, don't you?
Anyway, you spend way too much energy on your wrong idea of what racism is.
But if that stuff outrages you so much, then you should REALLY be outraged by a man running for POTUS, saying things like "typical white person" and not fully denouncing a pastor he's been close to for 20 years, who says BLATANT racist stuff up and down, regularly (those clips are from many different sermans) -- or to use Noel's words, "overt racism".
Show us "overt", hate-filled racism, not your convenient, mild interpretation of it.
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Truly Sad
March 21, 2008 - 14:41 ET by CobraManWhat's truly sad, Leon, is your inability to recognize and denounce Obama's racist statements as you rant and rave about statements posted here on NB, ones that you feel are racists.
Why the double standard? Why not condemn Obama for his inappropriate statements the same way you condemn others? Is it because you feel a black man can't be racist? Or are you just trying to shame others into silence?
For the record, I haven't seen any statements here that even remotely resemble the blatantly racist statements that Obama has made in the past few days.
What I have seen is you trying to shame others into silence. Shame on you for playing the racist card over and over again, Leon!
You had to go there Cool....
March 20, 2008 - 18:01 ET by NavyBuckeyeand bring out a direct quote. Now what is Leon going to do? I know dodge the rhetoric. I see he hasn't responded so.......
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
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March 20, 2008 - 18:12 ET by Cool ArrowHe'll tell us that since the actual words aren't identical, the nuances suggest more complex issues.
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Leon, define "racist."
March 20, 2008 - 18:19 ET by R D HelmAs you have been throwing this term around in here rather liberally, not to mention that fact that you have also pretty much accused everyone here of being one, perhaps you can tell us all what the term actually means?
I'm guessing you couldn't define it correctly if your life depended on it.
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Here's a great example,
March 20, 2008 - 19:59 ET by motherbeltHere's a great example, from Leon himself:
Keep reading while he tries to extricate himself, saying it's not racism, it's fact. You're in on the discussion too, RD...it will bring back memories....LOL Then Syrius chimed in and guess who he called a racist (hint: it wasn't Leon) ;-)
Stow all liquids first.
motherbelt, nice catch.
March 21, 2008 - 22:16 ET by R D HelmAnd notice I still have not received a reply from Leon.
Can't say I expected one, actually. :-)
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Justifiable Racism by Obama?
March 20, 2008 - 16:19 ET by CobraManSo, you believe that if some people here are apparently racists it justifies Obama's racism? Here's a news flash for you: NO ONE HERE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
Obama has made some rather racist statements in the last few days. Those statements reflect his beliefs. Since he is running for President, his beliefs are VERY important as he'll make judgments and decide policy based on his beliefs. I don't want a racist President in office, do you?
No Cobra, Racism from one
March 21, 2008 - 10:28 ET by LeonNo Cobra,
Racism from one group can not be used to justify racism of another group.
That's why i don't understand why people keep trying to defend the overtly racist comments on this website by saying Obama did it too.
It's ludicrous.
Leon, please cite some
March 21, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Free StinkerLeon,
please cite some examples of this "overt racsim" so we can alert the Masthead about it.
Meanwhile, you were conspicously missing last year when people were urging this place to ban seejay for bigoted remarks.
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You have it backwards
March 21, 2008 - 11:08 ET by CobraManYou have it backwards. You've been accusing others of making racist comments here AFTER those people complained about Obama's comments. The criticism of Obama’s statement came first, followed by your accusations of racism here at NB. You even used their posted criticism as proof of their alleged racism! I believe that you made those accusations in an attempt to deflect criticism away from Obama.
Leon
March 21, 2008 - 11:11 ET by Noel SheppardLeon,
I second Free Stinker's request for examples of overtly racist comments on this website concerning these Obama revelations. In fact, I demand it, or you owe all of us here an apology. Immediately.
With your citations, please include links to the comments and posts so that we can verify your accusations. Thank you. ns
Noel, Here you go. I
March 21, 2008 - 12:16 ET by LeonNoel,
Here you go. I can find many more. As I stated earlier, these are 5 examples I found in a quick review of a couple of yesterday's posts.
LINK
Demand met. Verify away.
Apparently...
March 21, 2008 - 12:23 ET by sarcasmoQuestioning the overall effectiveness and/or effects on black folks of "Affirmative Action" racial preference programs makes me a racist. Oh well...Now the left and the right agree on something again.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Sarc, what are you
March 21, 2008 - 12:25 ET by LeonSarc,
what are you talking about? Of course that wouldn't make you a racist.
However, I didn't post anything that questioned the validity. I posted something that accused all black people of taking advantage of the system, being lazy and making excuses.
I posted 5 indisputable examples of racist comments. Do we need more? They're a dime a dozen in this crowd.
I dispute
March 21, 2008 - 12:29 ET by sarcasmoThe one randomly-clicked example I saw yesterday. The words I saw blamed the government, not blacks, for the situation. I can't tell what was in the poster's heart, but the words didn't look "racist" to me unless I'm "a racist" too.
The racial effects of racial preferences, for the left, are about like the racial effects of the drugwar for the right. If I talk about either one even remotely-honestly, I must be "evil" in some way by definition. I don't buy it.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Leon
March 21, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Noel SheppardLeon,
1. You find this racist? Hmmm. There are areas that I don't go in Oakland, San Francisco, Richmond, Pittsburg, etc., etc., for fear I might not walk out alive. Does that make me racist or cautious? Furthermore, as I've posted several times in the past couple of days, I've had black friends, teachers, employees, and co-workers tell me that they're more afraid of a group of black teenagers walking towards them that white teenagers. Does that make them racist, too? Or, just cautious?
2. This to me isn't racist. It's just stupid. :-)
3. Angry? Maybe. Generalization? Certainly. Racist? Might be a stretch.
4. Also not racist in my view. You're stretching.
5. Not racist at all. Someone's opinion, and one that likely many share.
I'm sorry, Leon, but you seem to be misinterpreting a discussion about race as racism. How the heck are people at a message board going to discuss this issue without someone being offended? It's not possible.
Regardless, I think you're stretching things a bit to fit your stereotype of all conservatives being racists. You probably think that the articles I've written here on this subject are similarly racist, don't you? ns
Thanks Noel
March 21, 2008 - 14:48 ET by MrShyThank you for saving me the time and trouble.
Leon's just an antagonist. I actually give him enough respect to believe he's smart enough to know he's blowing smoke on this, and probably many, issues at NB. He just loves hanging out in these hallways, shooting anything from his hip that moves him at that moment, for jollies.
Oh and...
Leon, but you seem to be misinterpreting a discussion about race as racism.
Exactly.
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Leon
March 21, 2008 - 14:49 ET by RESTLESS 1From #4 on your link:
4) The fact is, based on statistics, black males are 7 times
more likely to be criminals. 5% of black men and 0.7% of white men are
in the pen. Granny is not racist and she's not stupid. LINK
Translation - Avoid black people, they're all criminals. Ha."-Leon
First, the poster you dipagaging here in no way said to avoid all black people. He or she simply stated the statistics. How is this racist, yet your sweeping generality in response is not?
Second, you must be the racist if you think 5% translates to all black people. Think about it.
Heh, beat me to the punch
March 21, 2008 - 15:17 ET by CortillaenHeh, beat me to the punch on that one, though it might help if I didn't write a page for every posting... That post was so dishonest as to be almost laughable, but the Dems have been doing it for years: Take someone's quote, apply your own, utterly twisted interpretation of it, then attack the person for your words.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
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Obama I mean Leon
March 21, 2008 - 11:04 ET by well99"According to the typical white people on this site, that is indeed the case."
Sounds like your stereotyping people.It is getting old.All people name Leon on this site are racist.They group all people of one color together.That sounds like bigotry to me.Leon supremacist should be held accountable for there racist.
leon's also
March 21, 2008 - 11:33 ET by TruthMongerleon's also assuming everyone posting these "racist" comments on this thread is caucasion:)
but I'm sure he's on board with the typical liberal racist/sexist mindset:
- evil white men run the world
- American blacks have been kept poor and desolute by these evil white men for centuries (but then how do they explain the prospering SE Asians that have only been here a decade or two?)
- organizations and services geared explicitly for whites (Nazi's, KKK) are racist but organizations for blacks (NAACP, United Negro College Fund, Ebony Magazine, Black Entertainment Television) are just fine
- requiring a certain number of women or black students to be accepted into a college or government jobs (quotas) regardless of qualification is just fine
- etc, etc, etc
no racism or sexism on the left at all, right:)? it's all here on NB!
TM I agree
March 21, 2008 - 13:31 ET by well99Two standards.You know in this day in age you would think folks would get it.It is either okay for everyone or nobody.Same rules for all.It isnt that complicated.God knows when folks are going to put this silly garbage behind them.I probably be under the dirt before we start thinking of ourselves as just Americans.
Well99... I could not
March 21, 2008 - 13:50 ET by bigtimerWell99...
I could not agree more.
I have had my fill of all of this...for years, most of my life now, perpetuated by the msm and the leftist party for their own selfish reasons for power and voters at the polling booths, victim-hood and dependency on the govt. is what they depend on making all the lemmings of all colors think they need them too...it is never-ending with their agenda's...just coming back to bite them in their own arse now....way past time too.
I heard on some show somewhere last night someone saying the dems were the only party who has ever really cared about the blacks....I could not believe it...and there was a so-called republican on the show who said nary a word.
Sad.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT
March 21, 2008 - 15:42 ET by well99History proves that it wasnt the Dems who pushed equality but the Repubs.Even today if you look at the Bush administration.No Dem has had such a diverse cabinet as GW.I will stack that against the Clinton or Carter any day.To bad he doesnt get the credit he deserves.I may not agree with some of his policies but he has done alot of good.
W99... Bingo! As you
March 21, 2008 - 15:49 ET by bigtimerW99...
Bingo!
As you can tell I agree...I was furious when the repub said nothing and just let that total lying BS pass.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Truth
March 21, 2008 - 22:38 ET by RESTLESS 1Are you saying that the nazis and the kkk are white support groups? I think I get where you were going with this post, but I don't think using these groups helped. Hell, I'm so white I'm damn near clear, but the nazis and kkk are definitely racists. Even they admit it.
»→ Exactly Cobra
March 20, 2008 - 15:48 ET by Cool ArrowIn exactly the same way African Americans bowed up in righteous indignation over Ross Perot's "you people", White America is experiencing the same schadenfreude with relation to Obama.
Perot was by no means a bigot, but it was too much fun for Lefties.
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Sean Hannity just played the
March 20, 2008 - 15:40 ET by marpelSean Hannity just played the "typical white person" comment!!!!!
odd
March 20, 2008 - 15:42 ET by WesenMaybe Obama's GrandMother saw something in him that made her afraid and this was her way of telling him... he just didn't get it.
Typical White Person???
March 20, 2008 - 16:01 ET by geoff.galeOK, now Mr. Obama has surely jumped the shark. He's resorted to just flapping his gums without any pretext of knowing what he's saying.
I'm pulling for the press to get on top of this one, but I'm also very skeptical at the same time.
You can't go wrong being
March 20, 2008 - 16:03 ET by Chris NormanYou can't go wrong being "skeptical"...
Obama is a racist hypocrit
March 20, 2008 - 16:03 ET by c5thenHe wants us to forgive and understand rev Wright for making racist and bigoted comments but he called for Senator Lott's resignation for simply embracing Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday and telling him that maybe the country would have been better off if we had listened more to him.
Obama it seems, wants to be treated differently than he treats others in similar situations. He obviously thinks that all white people are afraid of black people they don't know. That itself is a stereotypical statement that a racist would make.
This country can do much much better than either Obama or Hillary. And better than John McCain too.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Ann Coulter's new column is
March 20, 2008 - 16:05 ET by Gary P JacksonAnn Coulter's new column is appropriately called: "Throw Grandma Under The Bus" She sums it up perfectly!
http://www.humaneven...
All I can say is
March 20, 2008 - 17:44 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarExactly!!!
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
Memo to Barack Obama
March 20, 2008 - 16:32 ET by TeddyFrom what I guess is yet another "typical white person"?
Pick a color http://www.beachstore.com/images/shovel_w_handle_lg.jpg
ANY color.
Obama plagiarism?
March 20, 2008 - 16:40 ET by pocomocoIt would appear that Obama’s hypocrisy has no bounds.
From HYPOCRISY.com
Jesse Jackson agrees with Obama's grandmother
-->By Fatimahbrown Posted in Archived — Comments (3) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The hypocrisy of Barack Obama knows no limits.As you may remember, Obama yesterday chastised his own grandmother for being afraid of blacks:I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
Guess what. I have found a 1993 article in the New York Times where Jesse Jackson expressed comments identical to those of Obama's grandmother. Jackson, ladies and gentlemen, was afraid of blacks and relieved when a white person walked by:Bob Herbert, 12-12-1993:Jesse Jackson is traveling the country with a tough anti-crime message that he is delivering to inner-city youngsters.
In Chicago he said, "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery -- then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.Yet Obama chose to blame his own defenseless grandmother rather than taking the bold step of taking Jackson to task, even though the latter is an influential figure in the nation, unlike Barry's granny.
Barack Obama's hypocrisy has been in display for a while now. This one is but one more example.
(end of article)
Obama is over
March 20, 2008 - 16:52 ET by Gat New YorkIf Hillary trounces Obama in the remaining primaries, and it would appear she will, I would believe the super delegates will see that Obama is over and find a way to ease him out and Hillary in.
Even Democrats must know that having a Commander in Chief whose chief counsel is a hate-America racist will never sell.
Obama-mania is over. I am waiting for those latte liberals to throw him under the bus to join his grandma.
HAHAHAHAHAHAA.....
March 20, 2008 - 16:55 ET by MrShylatte liberals
Love it, Gat! :) (and the bus joke, too.... :))
Or half-caff-decaf-1/3-mocha-latte heart-bleeders :p
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I'm doing a second show at 11 . . .
March 20, 2008 - 17:26 ET by Gat New York. . . tell your friends.
To be honest I get my comedic inspiration from Mark Levin.
Never Fear ... Granny's Packing Heat!
March 20, 2008 - 17:06 ET by CrashIf more women felt that way, in general, perhaps we'd have less abductions and rapes; "If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know..."
This is a basic instinct! That and .... packing a piece to ward off thugs.
I love this!!!!
March 20, 2008 - 17:10 ET by PrairieSkyObama is becoming his own worst enemy!!! Everytime he opens his mouth on this subject, he just digs himself even deeper...He continues to betray his real feelings and attitudes about race and about whites in particular...This statement today along with the "Speech" reflect what he really thinks. This is not the smoke and mirrors and misdirection phrasiology that he is usually careful to use.
»→ Prairie
March 20, 2008 - 17:30 ET by Cool ArrowThat's because in the same way Joe Biden didn't know "articulate" is a racial slur (I didn't know it either), and Ross Perot didn't know "you people" was a racial slur , Barack doesn't know "typical white person" is a pejorative.
Now Obama is going to walk through this mine field all by his lonesome, and as evidenced on O'Reilly last night, even the usually camera hungry Jesse Jackson won't run out there to help him out.
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re:Cool
March 20, 2008 - 21:26 ET by PrairieSkyOverall, I agree-But, in Biden's case in particular, despite his history of saying some really stupid and racially questionable things, I really don't think he meant anything except "articulate" from that comment. In Obama's case however, I do think he really believes, mistakenly, that the "typical white person" does share his grandmother's views. He assumes that all whites think that way. That is a racist assumption on his part, no matter how he or his handlers try to spin it. Like you said, "Now Obama is going to walk through this mine field all by his lonesome..." He's made his bed, and now he'll have to lie in it.
No he didn't!
March 20, 2008 - 17:28 ET by catnamedjakeI am deeply offended. What exactly is a typical white person? Well, Hillary Inc. should be very happy right about now. Can someone be "in the tank" for Obama while he is tanking?
Grudge match campaign
March 20, 2008 - 17:29 ET by acumenYes, Obama is quite the uniter. And so articulate....
Obama's granny gambit.
March 20, 2008 - 17:30 ET by pocomocoIs Obama telling whites the we have an irrational fear of blacks? What about black on white car jackings and home invasions? What should we call them - a visit from Welcome Wagon?
If anyone should fears blacks it is blacks themselves, as black on black crime is manifestly higher than black on white crime.
Today, as a percentage of the population, there are more blacks in the prison population than non-blacks.
The question is, what is causing this? As for cause-and-effect, blacks need to look to themselves for the reason and, in particular, people like the hate-pastor at Obama’s church.
The decades of blaming 'whitey' just doesn't cut it any longer.
As a white man...
March 20, 2008 - 18:52 ET by dronetekI've never cared about race and always judged people on their character. My parents were the same way for the most part, but to me it just seemed natural. OVer the years, I've grown very tired of being labled a racist just for being white. I'm sick of the double standard and I'm sick of this idea that because I'm white, my un-evovled brain doesnt like black skin.
There does need to be a conversation on race, but it has to come from the idea that racsim is a human problem, not a white one.
Knee slapper
March 20, 2008 - 17:48 ET by the strugglerI'll be offended as soon as I stop laughing.Ha!He'll never get unstuck from this mess.Who's chickens are coming home to roost now?
It appears to me the only
March 20, 2008 - 17:48 ET by ConservativeRexIt appears to me the only reason Obammy opens his mouth is to change the foot that's in there, keep talking Senator.
Most on here are right on but.....
March 20, 2008 - 18:19 ET by NavyBuckeyeare failing to put yourselves in the minds of liberals and the MSM. They will ignore this and find something else to attack such as the McCain misspeak. I talked about my wife earlier and how she reacted. She is not even close to being a super lib, just slightly left of moderate and she already has dismissed this BS. We think differently(regardless of our color, religion, and background). Us conservatives see the real issue here. We don't look at people based on color or background. When I see a man on the street acting like a fool, I don't first think "Look another black/asian/white thug or idiot" rather I thinkg "Why do people act so stupid?" Whereas the Lib injects color, sex, or religious adjectives before the word people. The libs/MSM will dance around this and give him a pass because it is owed to him for our ignorance and wrong doings.
Well MSM and those who buy into this.....I wasn't born when the misdeeds happened, my family didn't even come to America until after WW1. They escaped fascism in Germany and came here to work hard and make a good living. Now you expect me to feel quilty and give a pass...go #$%^ yourself...I have had enough.(Sorry sailor mouth).
Oh, another example of the MSM bias....the dollar gained significantly on the Euro today....no mention though. But I bet if it drops just slightly anytime soon it will be big news. But then again if the evil rich whiteman didn't hoard all of his money then the rest of the country would have more to spend :o)
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
I know exactly what he's
March 20, 2008 - 18:29 ET by balboaI know exactly what he's talking about, but he totally screwed up. There's context involved, not just any ol' random person on any ol' random street.
»→ bal
March 20, 2008 - 18:39 ET by Cool ArrowWould you equate the context as being along the same lines as Ross Perot's use of the term "you people"?
I see "typical white people" and "you people" as being on an even par.
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"no they won't ignore it
March 20, 2008 - 18:46 ET by chessplayer"no they won't ignore it for that reason"
"the think it's true so to them it's not even news-worthy."
"THATS the issue THATS why it won't get anywhere, to liberals this is "true" the "Typical White Person" IS afraid of thier own shadow, but they (liberals ) are not your "Typical White Person" they are more refined and educated."
Bingo.
Balboa
March 20, 2008 - 18:46 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Yeah, I know. But, how's that wet sand feeling under your feet right about now, hmmm? Must be quite squishy, yes? Getting tougher and tougher to defend this man's obvious racism, isn't it?
squish, squish, squish, squish...
You know what's funny, Bal? Once you realize how squishy Obama's position is on race, you're going to begin recognizing how soft virtually ALL liberal views are. And that's when your life will really change -- trust me.
The fun's just begun, Bal. I predict that in this election, a whole slew of Democrats are going to come out strongly for McCain -- probably you included. These are Democrats like yourself that have been lurking at conservative websites largely due to their dissatisfaction with the liberal ones they frequent and finally came to grips with the fact that the Democrat Party doesn't represent their views anymore.
It's going to be glorious!
Give in to your better self, Bal! ns
»→ Use the force Bal
March 20, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Cool ArrowCome towards the light.
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Bal, this is like beating
March 20, 2008 - 18:50 ET by red_dragon311Bal,
this is like beating a dead horse but any one saying "your typical black person" would be burned at the stake.
I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first analrapist
You're right, bal.
March 20, 2008 - 19:43 ET by Indiana JoeIt's "not just any ol' random person."
It's a "typical white person."
I have faith that you understand (unlike some here) that "racism" is generalizing about people based on their race.
Sounds like you're trying to dismiss this as a slip of the tongue, but you know what it reveals.
Aren't you tired of trying to defend this kind of blatant hypocrisy?
»→ I disagree Indiana
March 20, 2008 - 19:49 ET by Cool ArrowStereotyping is generalizing about people based on their race.
Racism is the promotion of one race as being superior, and at the detriment, to others.
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Well, sure, I'll split that
March 20, 2008 - 21:15 ET by Indiana JoeWell, sure, I'll split that hair.
I'd say that stereotyping doesn't necessarily have to be about race. We stereotype how people from Massachusetts talk, or that Southerners drive pickup trucks, or people from LA are kinda loony. Lawyers are evil, politicians are liars, priests are pedophiles. These are all stereotypes that don't include race as a defining factor.
Then there are racial stereotypes, and maybe that's what I mean by racism.
But I don't believe one definition of racism I heard once from a militant-minded black man. His reasoning was that you can't be racist if you don't have the power to discriminate against someone because of race, and therefore blacks couldn't be racist, since they are powerless in our "slave society." Nice logic, huh?
I guess my best definition would be: stereotyping based on race.
Well, here's the easy way to solve this:
1. "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others."
Dictionary.com
(Emphasis mine, since I don't think superiority or oppression is needed to have racist thoughts or beliefs.)
This is why, to my mind, bringing race into a discussion to explain or excuse someone's behavior is, by definition, racist. It shouldn't even be an issue if the "content of character" is going to carry more weight than the "color of skin."
»→ We'll agree Joe
March 20, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Cool ArrowBoth of us came out a little narrow.
I think it was Dick Gregory who postulated that preposterous premist that only Whites can be racist. That nonsense got shoved down our throats in race relations class in 1972 in the Army. It served Gregory's purpose very well, as evidenced by the flourishing business of honkophobia.
But I don't think racial stereotypes are necessarily racist. We wouldn't want to put all the political statisticians out of work, would we?
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Cool...
March 20, 2008 - 22:08 ET by Indiana Joe"We wouldn't want to put all the political statisticians out of work, would we?"
No, I don't think I'm up to quartering hairs tonight!
And thanks for being in the Army in '72 (thanks for your service, too). Someone here mentioned being "about 12" during the Rodney King riots. Made me feel old!
;^)
well Indiana
March 20, 2008 - 22:13 ET by candanceDon't look now, but I was about 12 back then too.
Bal
March 20, 2008 - 19:58 ET by well99The context is he stereotyped people.The same with that BS speech of his.You can have two standards if you want but it doesnt change the fact that was a racist statement.Actually I see him as a racist and pathetic piece of sh##.His grandparents should of let him go to foster care.It really burns me that this ungrateful punk gets a bye from the msm.I didnt have anything against him besides some differences on some political issues.Now that he has come out of the closet he can join his buddy Wright and go to hell.
Remember how the more H.
March 20, 2008 - 19:09 ET by mostlymoderateRemember how the more H. Clinton talked, the more her poll numbers went down? Looks like the same thing is happening to B. Obama. I think his hot-air finally hit the threshold and now is coming back down.
MM
March 20, 2008 - 19:15 ET by Noel SheppardMM,
Yep. And this is why you haven't heard anything from Hill lately. She's going to let the media focus on him for a while, and see how he does.
Of course, she's got a lot of ground to make up, and that seems unlikely. Makes one wonder why they waited so long to get Rev. Wright out. ns
It does make one wonder why
March 20, 2008 - 19:24 ET by mostlymoderateIt does make one wonder why they waited so long to report Obama's ties to Wright. It upsets me because I would rather see a legitimate contest between Clinton and McCain than have Obama win the nomination and not have a chance in hell of winning. You must remember something, I don't care for ANY of these candidates.
The charge of "racism" has
March 20, 2008 - 19:19 ET by Chris NormanThe charge of "racism" has become so useful and all-purpose, that even if Obama is elected president, that won't slow the charges down - they've become too helpful in advancing the liberal agenda. If what's left of the congressional GOP dared to oppose any proposal of a President Obama, the charge against their opposition would be "racism". If he nominates an African American liberal to any judgeship or cabinet post, any announced votes against that person would be damned with cries of "racism!". The only way I can see out of this spiral down we're on is that the overuse of the charge (and towards enough liberals - like Ferraro) may eventually render it meaningless and hopefully, useless. Much the way our resident troll has slung it around today.
Chris... Fortunately,
March 20, 2008 - 19:22 ET by Clear thinkerChris...
Fortunately, Obama won't win in November so we won't have to live through 4 years of being called a racist.
The racist/biggoted arm of the Democrat Party will vote for McCain and be responsible for putting him in the White House. "Abstain from McCain"
They were talking about
March 20, 2008 - 19:26 ET by mostlymoderateThey were talking about rioting and looting occurring if Obama loses on Fox.
Wouldn't it be rich....
March 20, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Prester John....if that happened when Clinton Inc steals the nomination from him?
Of course....
March 20, 2008 - 20:29 ET by NavyBuckeyeBHO loses it will be because he is black...not because he is an idiot and a biggot. So his supporters will use that as an excuse to break the law. They will loot and riot and burn down thier own neighborhoods. And this shouldn't even make a blip in the news, but it will be everywhere. Makes all the sense in the world. I remember the last riot because of Rodney King. I was 12 or something. G
“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter” - Thomas Jefferson
CT,I'm hoping that will be
March 20, 2008 - 19:36 ET by Chris NormanCT,
I'm hoping that will be the case. As I've maintained here, it will be easier to recover from any liberal policies from a McCain presidency than an Obama one. Having said that, my position still stands. "Racism" as a charge, has become a first line of liberal attack, these days. Hopefully, like the boy who cried "Wolf!" once too often, the professional screamers of "Racism!" will eventually over employ this weapon. I say they have already overplayed it. I think some liberals and moderates will finally realize it too.
THE "FEAR" IS SURE NOT ALWAYS IGNORANCE
March 20, 2008 - 19:17 ET by reelman46So Obama's white G-ma had "fears around blacks"? Was that because they are 13x more likely to commit a crime (Fed Stats, black teens are 5% of the total population and commit 65% of the crimes).
Give us all a break and be honest (Mr. Candyman Obama) when it comes to crime and black family structure (76% fornication babies according to the World Almanac). What do the undisciplined sons matter as long as the parents vote democrat? Its sickening. You should be ashamed.
Wonder how many sermon minutes your mentor Wright spent on the black family crisis in 40 years? Its sickening. You should be ashamed.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
If Obama will describe a
March 20, 2008 - 19:44 ET by ConservativeRexIf Obama will describe a typical white person with me, I'll describe a typical black person with him. Fair enough?
Olberman alert
March 20, 2008 - 19:44 ET by Prester JohnApparently NBC just found out that contractors at the State Dept have looked at Obama's passport records in January 08 and Obama's Senate office was just told in the last day or two. Olberman is acting like this is Watergate.
Stand by for more details.
PJ,Yeah, the goons at MSNBC
March 20, 2008 - 20:00 ET by Chris NormanPJ,
Yeah, the goons at MSNBC have a tendency to treat anything like this as grounds for impeachment - they'll still be calling for Bush/Cheney's impeachment two years from now. My Olbermann-loving brother still goes on about Scooter Libby (I had to listen about him losing his law license this morning).
A couple of days after
March 20, 2008 - 20:39 ET by CooltomA couple of days after Obama threw his Grandma under the bus he returned to jump into the driver's seat, throw it into reverse, and back over Grandma' s body.
I see where all of Obama's sycophants are praising "The Speech" to high heaven as opening a dialogue about race. Nope, it was a CYA speech only and the last thing Obama wants to talk about now is racism. He fumbles that ball everytime.
Odd that liberals can give one speech and the media and their followers decree that the discussion is over -- that is old news that has been dealt with -- let's Move On (tm). Don't you wish Conservatives were accorded the same leeway. The life cycle of a liberal gaffe is 24 hours -- a conservative about 8 months.
Blame the MSM
March 20, 2008 - 20:23 ET by ChaitealoverPerhaps many white people have come to be wary of blacks because, about 95% of the time, the local MSM seems to only shows blacks who are criminals. Those blacks who are hard workers and/or high achievers are frequently overlooked in favor of whites with the same story.
I see where O'Reilly is saying that he doesn't think white people will be insulted by Obama's "typical white person" phrase on his show tonight. Typical of O'Reilly to project his own feeling on others. It is insulting to generalize about any group of people. This white person doesn't think she's 'typical' at all [whatever that means]. Or maybe I am, after all, I do make judgements based on character, not pigmentation. Most of the people I know do the same.
Chai
“...Bury me on my face,” said Diogenes; and when he was asked why, he replied, “Because in a little while everything will be turned upside down.”
Not me, I make judgements
March 20, 2008 - 22:12 ET by NazarethNot me, I make judgements based solely on eye color alone. If they have blue eyes, I don't trust em- if they have brown eyes, I'm learey of them, if they have hazel eyes, I'm distrustful of them- if they have green eyes, I'm nervous around htem- if they have chartreus eyes, why I guess they're ok, but I'm still watchful of their every move
I have never known a single
March 20, 2008 - 22:24 ET by suzycreamcheeseI have never known a single person regardless of race who feared everyone she doesn't know. What BS. Don't tell me that Obama's own wife hasn't clutched her purse closer to her side or walked a little faster when walking the mean streets of Chicago. I'm cautious of everyone I don't know, but that doesn't mean I'm not friendly to strangers and it certainly doesn't make me a racist.
Jug Ears sure hasn't learned how to apologize with any sincerity. He tends to turn his apologies around and blame the "typical" white honkies. Is he padding Grandma's pension in order to rip her a new one at every press conference? Does the man have any shame?
Keep talking Obama. I'm sure some of the misguided conservatives or undecideds have jumped off the fence they were sitting on.
Many years ago my wife
March 21, 2008 - 00:06 ET by MidAmericaMany years ago my wife and I took our two small children for a day in downtown Chicago and as we neared the Sears Tower I sensed something was wrong. There were a few people walking on both sides of the street but we were the only ones that were 'out of town tourists'. But what I began to notice was that some of the people were glancing at us which I thought a little unusual for jaded city dwellers. I kind of looked over my shoulder and seen a few paces back a guy (white BTW) I had a bad feeling about. I halted my family to 'look in a window' which forced the guy to walk on by which he did slowly (I watched him in the window reflection). I immediately headed the family back to where we'd come from. I'm sure the guy had been waiting for a time when we were more isolated. I didn't tell the family about the incident till much later because I didn't want to scare them.
As a typical white person
March 21, 2008 - 10:37 ET by Jack BauerAs a typical white person I am appalled. Very appalled. Highly appalled.
Not only did Barack Obama throw his white grandma under the bus ...
But he returned the next day, found her lying injured in the road, and promptly reversed the bus back over her.
Wow. That's cold.
Is America ready for a Barack President?
breathing white in America
March 21, 2008 - 13:52 ET by gleefullyisayI'm with you Jack, I don't want this closet bigot who threw his "white" heritage under a bus speaking for how I feel. I'll gladly tell him in November.