Global Warming to be Taught in Public Schools?

Photo of Noel Sheppard.

Be afraid, America! Be very afraid!

No matter how many times people like Nobel Laureate Al Gore claim that global warming isn't political, nothing can be further from the truth.

Take for example a bill in the California senate to require climate change be part of the science curricula in all public schools.

As reported in Friday's San Jose Mercury (emphasis added throughout, h/t Marc Sheppard):

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A Silicon Valley lawmaker is gaining momentum with a bill that would require "climate change" to be among the science topics that all California public school students are taught.

The measure, by state Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, also would mandate that future science textbooks approved for California public schools include climate change.

Can you believe this nonsense? The warming part of the current cycle peaked in 1998, with nine consecutive cooler years since, and the largest state in the union is actually considering requiring the brainwashing of children with junk science.

And, since what happens legislatively in California typically sweeps the nation, be afraid, America! Be very afraid:

The state Senate approved the bill, SB 908, Jan. 30 by a 26-13 vote. It heads now to the state Assembly. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has taken numerous actions to reduce global warming, but he has yet to weigh in on Simitian's bill. Other Republicans in the Capitol, however, are not happy about the proposal.

Some say the science on global warming isn't clear, while others worry the bill would inject environmental propaganda into classrooms.

"I find it disturbing that this mandate to teach this theory is not accompanied by a requirement that the discussion be science-based and include a critical analysis of all sides of the subject," said Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks, during the Senate debate.

Be afraid, America! Be very afraid, for McClintock is in the minority Party in the Senate, and the Assembly is also controlled by Democrats.

Add in a governor who seems to buy into this nonsense, and the brainwashing in California seems almost a metaphysical certitude.

How depressing.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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I can almost see Al Gore living in the Psycho Motel

Loved the photo caption of Tippy as she is much nicer to look at acting than Al Gore being himself.

The globalists are desperate in Bloomberg is making speeches on carbon tax and now Cali is attempting to indoctrinate students to try and get them to just "believe" so the entire dictatorial structure will be easier to implement.

The problem is the entire debate is about to shift to clean water taxed on every well in America and a food use tax. (Imagine a 30000 page tax code on good food and bad food.......and little imps being taught in school to keep eyes on their neighbors garbage for food use.) Once this shifts it will be no more global warming, but the real way to manipulate societies and that is depriving them of food and water.

I hope citizens are buying a few vegetable seeds for gardens and learning how to reproduce their own garden seeds as they flew allot of this in Europe and did allot of strange things in Iraq in trying to get farmers there to only use "approved" seeds.

Oh well back to Tippy..........makes me lonesome though for old Hollywood and the real babes they had back then.

 

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LC

LC,

I think you meant Janet. Tippy was in "The Birds." ns

What does Tom Cruise...

What does Tom Cruise have to say about it?

It Depresses Me, Too...

...but, I wanted to note my agreement with Sen. McClintock's comments regarding teaching the science and providing critical analysis of ALL views on climate and what influences climate change.

Of greater import, why is it that it is a democrat who sponsors a requirement to teach a narrow topic like "climate change" rather than the more proper wide topic of the "climate and what influences changes in it" yet it is a republican is who calls for the properly reasoned approach to teaching the subject.

You don't have to answer that. ;-)

BTW, Noel, where can we find the support for the climate cooling since 1998? Is it here in Newsbusters? Thanks.

Just my $0.02

Junkscience.com

is one of the best references and it has links to most of the others.

re:Junkscience.com

Well, it does live up to its name.

www.IPCC,ch is far more reliable, and does include the temp data you're looking for.

Giles

what's your link?

it looks like you are trying to go to the the politically motivated and biased UN site

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

IPCC

www.ipcc.ch sorry about the comma.

One thing to note is that some deniers have enough actual science behind them that they are active in writing or reviewing the reports.

 

Also, to be thorough, the working groups often include studies that posit other causes - ex solar, or methane hydrates from the ocean, etc. Those are included in the body of lit and add to the effects cited in the summaries.

 

While the science is harder to follow in the WG reports, there are usually summaries that don't require graduate level science to understand. If we paid attention in HS science, we can follow the logic and cause and effect.

 

Notice that deniers often try to pull the wool by expecting you to follow pretty arcane points - which makes it easier to jump some crucial steps. Another advantage of reading through the comments on RealClimate.

 

 

Another Computer Illiterate

Why are all Alarmists Computer Illiterate? RealClimate is a site created by Computer Illiterates to push their AGW Alarmist Position.

The IPCC is a Political Body and does not represent all scientists or any imagined consensus. What is included in their reports is biased and propaganda - deliberately manipulated to get the political outcome they wish.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

re:Illiterate

Well, you can go to Realclimate and read up on the credentials of the 7 scientists running it.

I think you'd have a hard time proving your contention they are 'illiterate'. That's also a huge generalization in your position, also pretty hard to prove.

Also, IPCC is transparent in their mission, easily read at www.ipcc.ch. But I've not seen a detailed explanation from anyone who says 'biased' 'propaganda''manipulated' 'political outcome'.

 

So, if you have some resource to cite, a study that walks through how they are biased, etc. please note it.

 

It would probably be far easier to talk about the research that supports the findings.

I have read their Credentials, they are not Computer Scientists

Two have degrees in Mathematics NOT Computer Science thus why I state they are Computer Illiterate.

You apparently do not read much:

Independent Summary for Policymakers: IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (Fraser Institute)
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report 2007 Analysis and Summary (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Why the IPCC should be disbanded (Science & Public Policy Institute)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

You would care to debate

You would care to debate these points?

care to debate

No point in it here. Take the Computer illitarate argument to RC and see how it flies.And maybe research what they study and how before your leaps of logic.

Your other resources are not science resources but are astroturfed, petrofunded organizations. Not worth fingermuscle energy rehashing all the junk propagated from them - Been there, done that. Look around and you find enough examples to know that the arguements don't hold water and the discussions breakdown to stupid way too fast to enlighten anyone.

Obviously No Point When You Don't Have One

I think I will pass on posting where my posts can be edited at will, deleted or ignored (realclimate). The fact remains none of the scientists there are computer scientists.

I have science resources and then some. But since the IPCC is a political body you are going to get responses from other political organizations. Only seems fair right?

Not only does what I post hold water - they debunk the hysteria.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Let see ... you libs have

Let see ... you libs have short memories.   Your friends at Realclimate took their taxpayer-funded tripe out for a test drive here.  The results were not encouraging for your team.

RealClimate

RealClimate is run by NASA scientists who manage it while they are supposed to be at work -- at least that is the only explanation for the timestamps on some of Gavin's comments.

These people are cheating their employer (NASA, meaning YOU) and running a partisan website.

They should be fired.

Giles

as you run to the politically motivated and biased UN, here is info from the site that you provided the link to:

  • The people: as United Nations body, the IPCC work aims at the promotion of the United Nations human development goals
  • well they flat out admit to promoting UN goals

    re:Junkscience.com

    That was an original and witty response, Giles!

    Come up with that on your own? Or did you read it at RealScience.org? (Now, THERE'S a "junk science" site)

    re:Junkscience.com

     

    Look through the threads on JS and note that rarely are any peer-reviewed studies cited for proof. Usually only the Press Releases of studies that MIGHT have data supporting denier claims. Or ipse dixit claims.

     

    Compare the citations at RC. The conversations are science focused - not opinion based, then find some straw to clutch.

     

    Funny thing about the PR hit; hen the study comes out, there is critical review in the science lit and often it is found that incomplete datasets, old datasets, bad math, illogical leaps are found in the paper. But it has that 'half-life' and floats around for a bit. Never to be cited in another research paper.

    You want Peer Reviewed Studies?

    Do you really want Peer-Reviewed Studies? Junk Science frequently links to them BTW.

    Funny how these studies withstand Peer-Review and are frequently cited by many other papers later on.

    The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

    re: Peer Reviewed Studies?

    Yup, they and their supporters often say that.

    However, can you link to a comment or a post that actually cites a peer-reviewed source? One that is actually published in the science field? over 90% of the posts are citing news articles; over 90% of the comments are opinion.

    Wrong Answer - All The Peer Review You Want

    Peer-Review Papers Skeptical of "Man-Made" Global Warming:

    "No credible peer-reviewed scientist in the world disagrees any longer that the globe is warming and that humans are causing it."
    - Laurie David, Producer 'An Inconvenient Truth'

    1,500-Year Climate Cycle:

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    - Gerard Bond, William Showers, Maziet Cheseby, Rusty Lotti, Peter Almasi, Peter deMenocal, Paul Priore, Heidi Cullen, Irka Hajdas, Georges Bonani

    A Variable Sun Paces Millennial Climate
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    - Richard A. Kerr

    Cyclic Variation and Solar Forcing of Holocene Climate in the Alaskan Subarctic
    (Science, Vol. 301. no. 5641, pp. 1890 - 1893, 26 September 2003)
    - Feng Sheng Hu, Darrell Kaufman, Sumiko Yoneji, David Nelson, Aldo Shemesh, Yongsong Huang, Jian Tian, Gerard Bond, Benjamin Clegg, Thomas Brown

    Decadal to millennial cyclicity in varves and turbidites from the Arabian Sea: hypothesis of tidal origin
    (Global and Planetary Change, Volume 34, Issues 3-4, Pages 313-325, November 2002)
    - W. H. Bergera, U. von Rad

    Late Holocene approximately 1500 yr climatic periodicities and their implications
    (Geology, v. 26; no. 5; p. 471-473, May 1998)
    - Ian D. Campbell, Celina Campbell, Michael J. Apps, Nathaniel W. Rutter, Andrew B. G. Bush

    Possible solar origin of the 1,470-year glacial climate cycle demonstrated in a coupled model
    (Nature 438, 208-211, 10 November 2005)
    - Holger Braun, Marcus Christl, Stefan Rahmstorf, Andrey Ganopolski, Augusto Mangini, Claudia Kubatzki, Kurt Roth, Bernd Kromet

    The 1,800-year oceanic tidal cycle: A possible cause of rapid climate change
    (PNAS, vol. 97, no. 8, 3814-3819, April 11, 2000)
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    The origin of the 1500-year climate cycles in Holocene North-Atlantic records
    (Climate of the Past Discussions, Volume 3, Issue 2, pp.679-692, 2007)
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    Timing of Millennial-Scale Climate Change in Antarctica and Greenland During the Last Glacial Period
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    Widespread evidence of 1500 yr climate variability in North America during the past 14 000 yr
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    Anthropogenic:

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    Global warming
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    Modeling climatic effects of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions: unknowns and uncertainties. Reply to Risbey (2002)
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    On global forces of nature driving the Earth's climate. Are humans involved?
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    The continuing search for an anthropogenic climate change signal: Limitations of correlation-based approaches
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    Antarctica:

    A doubling in snow accumulation in the western Antarctic Peninsula since 1850
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 35, L01706, 2008)
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    First survey of Antarctic sub–ice shelf sediments reveals mid-Holocene ice shelf retreat
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    Orbitally induced oscillations in the East Antarctic ice sheet at the Oligocene/Miocene boundary
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    Past and Future Grounding-Line Retreat of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet
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    - H. Conway, B. L. Hall, G. H. Denton, A. M. Gades, E. D. Waddington

    Snowfall-Driven Growth in East Antarctic Ice Sheet Mitigates Recent Sea-Level Rise
    (Science, Vol. 308. no. 5730, pp. 1898 - 1901, 24 June 2005)
    - Curt H. Davis, Yonghong Li, Joseph R. McConnell, Markus M. Frey, Edward Hanna

    Arctic

    Actual and insolation-weighted Northern Hemisphere snow cover and sea-ice between 1973–2002
    (Climate Dynamics, Volume 22, Issue 6-7, pp. 591-595, 2004)
    - R. Pielke, G. Liston, W. Chapman, D. Robinson

    Scary Arctic Ice Loss? Blame the Wind
    (Science, Vol. 307. no. 5707, p. 203, 14 January 2005)
    - Richard A. Kerr

    Sea-ice decline due to more than warming alone
    (Nature 450, 27, 1 November 2007)
    - Julia Slingo, Rowan Sutton

    CO2 lags Temperature changes:

    180 years of atmospheric CO2 gas analysis by chemical methods
    (Energy & Environment, Volume 18, Number 2, pp. 259-282(24), March 2007)
    - Beck, Ernst-Georg

    Ice core records of atmospheric CO2 around the last three glacial terminations
    (Science, Vol. 283. no. 5408, pp. 1712 - 1714, 12 March 1999)
    - Hubertus Fischer, Martin Wahlen, Jesse Smith, Derek Mastroianni, Bruce Deck

    "High-resolution records from Antarctic ice cores show that carbon dioxide concentrations increased by 80 to 100 parts per million by volume 600 ± 400 years after the warming of the last three deglaciations."

    Southern Hemisphere and Deep-Sea Warming Led Deglacial Atmospheric CO2 Rise and Tropical Warming
    (Science, September 27, 2007)
    - Lowell Stott, Axel Timmermann, Robert Thunell

    The phase relations among atmospheric CO2 content, temperature and global ice volume over the past 420 ka
    (Quaternary Science Reviews, Volume 20, Issue 4, Pages 583-589, February 2001)
    - Manfred Mudelsee

    Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III
    (Science 14, Vol. 299. no. 5613, March 2003)
    - Nicolas Caillon, Jeffrey P. Severinghaus, Jean Jouzel, Jean-Marc Barnola, Jiancheng Kang, Volodya Y. Lipenkov

    "The sequence of events during Termination III suggests that the CO2 increase lagged Antarctic deglacial warming by 800 ± 200 years and preceded the Northern Hemisphere deglaciation."

    Computer Climate Models:

    A comparison of tropical temperature trends with model predictions
    (International Journal of Climatology, 5 Dec 2007)
    - David H. Douglass, John R. Christy, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer

    Effects of bias in solar radiative transfer codes on global climate model simulations
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L20717, 2005)
    - Albert Arking

    Global Climate Models Violate Scaling of the Observed Atmospheric Variability
    (Physical Review Letters, Vol. 89, No. 2, July 8, 2002)
    - R. B. Govindan, Dmitry Vyushin, Armin Bunde, Stephen Brenner, Shlomo Havlin, Hans-Joachim Schellnhuber

    Quantifying the influence of anthropogenic surface processes and inhomogeneities on gridded global climate data
    (Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 112, D24S09, 2007)
    - Ross R. McKitrick, Patrick J. Michaels

    Greenhouse Theory:

    Are observed changes in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere really dangerous?
    (Bulletin of Canadian Petroleum Geology,v. 50, no. 2, p. 297-327, June 2002)
    - C. R. de Freitas

    Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations over the Last Glacial Termination
    (Science, Vol. 291. no. 5501, 5 January 2001)
    - Eric Monnin, Andreas Indermühle, André Dällenbach, Jacqueline Flückiger, Bernhard Stauffer, Thomas F. Stocker, Dominique Raynaud, Jean-Marc Barnola

    Atmospheric CO2 fluctuations during the last millennium reconstructed by stomatal frequency analysis of Tsuga heterophylla needles
    (Geology, v. 33; no. 1; p. 33-36, January 2005)
    - Lenny Kouwenberg, Rike Wagner, Wolfram Kürschner, Henk Visscher

    Can increasing carbon dioxide cause climate change?
    (Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, Vol. 94, pp. 8335-8342, August 1997)
    - Richard S. Lindzen

    Cloud and radiation budget changes associated with tropical intraseasonal oscillations
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 34, L15707, 2007)
    - Roy W. Spencer, William D. Braswell, John R. Christy, Justin Hnilo

    CO2-induced global warming: a skeptic’s view of potential climate change
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    - Sherwood B. Idso

    Does the Earth Have an Adaptive Infrared Iris?
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    - Richard S. Lindzen, Ming-Dah Chou, and Arthur Y. Hou

    Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics
    (Physics, arXiv:0707.1161)
    - Gerhard Gerlich, Ralf D. Tscheuschner

    "A. there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects, B. there are no calculations to determine an average surface temperature of a planet, C. the frequently mentioned difference of 33 degrees Celsius is a meaningless number calculated wrongly, D. the formulas of cavity radiation are used inappropriately, E. the assumption of a radiative balance is unphysical, F. thermal conductivity and friction must not be set to zero, the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture is falsified."

    Heat capacity, time constant, and sensitivity of Earth's climate system
    (Accepted for publication in Journal of Geophysical Research)
    - Stephen E. Schwartz

    Phanerozoic Climatic Zones and Paleogeography with a Consideration of Atmospheric CO2 Levels
    (Paleontological Journal, 2: 3-11, 2003)
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    The "Greenhouse Effect" as a Function of Atmospheric Mass
    (Energy & Environment, Volume 14, Numbers 2-3, pp. 351-356, 1 May 2003)
    - H. Jelbring

    Greenland:

    Global Warming and the Greenland Ice Sheet
    (Climatic Change, Volume 63, Numbers 1-2, pp. 201-221(21), March 2004)
    - Petr Chylek, Jason E. Box, Glen Lesins

    Greenland warming of 1920–1930 and 1995–2005
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, 2006)
    - Petr Chylek, M. K. Dubey, G. Lesins

    Rapid Changes in Ice Discharge from Greenland Outlet Glaciers
    (Science, Vol. 315. no. 5818, pp. 1559 - 1561, 16 March 2007)
    - Ian M. Howat, Ian Joughin, Ted A. Scambos

    Recent cooling in coastal southern Greenland and relation with the North Atlantic Oscillation
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 30, No. 3, 2003)
    - Edward Hanna, John Cappelen

    Recent Ice-Sheet Growth in the Interior of Greenland
    (Science 11, Vol. 310. no. 5750, pp. 1013 - 1016, November 2005)
    - Ola M. Johannessen, Kirill Khvorostovsky, Martin W. Miles, Leonid P. Bobylev

    Hockey Stick:

    A 2000-year global temperature reconstruction based on non-treering proxies
    (Energy & Environment 18(7-8): 1049-1058, 2007)
    - C. Loehle

    Comment on "The Spatial Extent of 20th-Century Warmth in the Context of the Past 1200 Years"
    (Science, Vol. 316. no. 5833, p. 1844, 29 June 2007)
    - Gerd Bürger

    Corrections to the Mann et al (1998) Proxy Data Base and Northern Hemisphere Average Temperature Series
    (Energy & Environment, Volume 14, Number 6, pp. 751-771, 1 November 2003)
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    Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low- and high-resolution proxy data
    (Nature 433, 613-617, 10 February 2005)
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    Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L03710, 2005)
    - Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick

    "Their method, when tested on persistent red noise, nearly always produces a hockey stick shaped first principal component (PC1)"

    Proxy climatic and environmental changes of the past 1000 years
    (Climate Research, Vol. 23: 89–110, 2003)
    - Willie Soon, Sallie Baliunas

    Reply to comment by Huybers on "Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance"
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L20715, 2005)
    - Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick

    Reply to comment by von Storch and Zorita on "Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance"
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L20714, 2005)
    - Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick

    The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere Climate Index: Update and Implications
    (Energy & Environment, Volume 16, Number 1, pp. 69-100, January 2005)
    - Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick

    Hurricanes:

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    (Science, Vol. 313. no. 5786, pp. 452 - 454, 28 July 2006)
    - Christopher W. Landsea, Bruce A. Harper, Karl Hoarau, John A. Knaff

    Causes of the Unusually Destructive 2004 Atlantic Basin Hurricane Season
    (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Volume 87, Issue 10, October 2006)
    - Philip J. Klotzbach, William M. Gray

    Comments
    on "Impacts of CO2-Induced Warming on Simulated Hurricane Intensity and
    Precipitation: Sensitivity to the Choice of Climate Model and
    Convective Scheme"

    (Journal of Climate, Volume 18, Issue 23, December 2005)
    - Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Christopher Landsea

    Counting Atlantic Tropical Cyclones Back to 1900
    (EOS, Transactions American Geophysical Union, Vol. 88, No. 18, Page 197, 2007)
    - Christopher W. Landsea

    Hurricanes and Global Warming
    (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Volume 86, Issue 11, November 2005)
    - R. A. Pielke Jr., C. Landsea, M. Mayfield, J. Laver, and R. Pasch

    Meteorology: Are there trends in hurricane destruction?
    (Nature 438, E11, 22 December 2005)
    - Roger A. Pielke, Jr

    Sea-surface temperatures and tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 22, No. 33, L09708, 2006)
    - Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Robert E. Davis

    Tropical Cyclones and Global Climate Change: A Post-IPCC Assessment
    (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Volume 79, Issue 1, January 1998)
    - A. Henderson-Sellers, H. Zhang, G. Berz, K. Emanuel, W. Gray, C. Landsea, G. Holland, J. Lighthill, S.-L. Shieh, P. Webster, K. McGuffie

    Kyoto:

    Time to ditch Kyoto
    (Nature 449, 973-975, 25 October 2007)
    - Gwyn Prins, Steve Rayner

    Medieval Warming Period - Little Ice Age:

    A 700 year record of Southern Hemisphere extratropical climate variability
    (Annals of Glaciology, vol. 39, p.127-132, 2004)
    - P.A Mayewski, K. Maasch, J.W.C White, E.J. Steig, E. Meyerson, I. Goodwin, V.I. Morgan, T. van Ommen, M.A.J. Curran, J. Sourney, K. Kreutz

    Coherent High- and Low-Latitude Climate Variability During the Holocene Warm Period
    (Science, Vol. 288. no. 5474, pp. 2198 - 2202, 23 June 2000)
    - Peter deMenocal, Joseph Ortiz, Tom Guilderson, Michael Sarnthein

    Evidence for a 'Medieval Warm Period' in a 1,100 year tree-ring reconstruction of past austral summer temperatures in New Zealand
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    - E. R. Cook, J. G. Palmer, R. D'Arrigo

    Evidence for the existence of the medieval warm period in China
    (Climatic Change, Volume 26, Numbers 2-3, March, 1994)
    - De'Er Zhang

    Glacial geological evidence for the medieval warm period
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    Medieval climate warming and aridity as indicated by multiproxy evidence from the Kola Peninsula, Russia
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    Medieval Warm Period, Little Ice Age and 20th century temperature variability from Chesapeake Bay
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    "The Little Ice Age and the subsequent warming were global in extent. Several Holocene fluctuations in snowline, comparable in magnitude to that of the post-Little Ice Age warming, occurred in the Swiss Alps. Borehole records both in polar ice and in wells from all continents suggest the existence of a Medieval Warm Period. Finally, two multidecade-duration droughts plagued the western United States during the latter part of the Medieval Warm Period. I consider this evidence sufficiently convincing to merit an intensification of studies aimed at elucidating Holocene climate fluctuations, upon which the warming due to greenhouse gases is superimposed."

    Polar Bears:

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    Sea Level:

    Estimating future sea level changes from past records
    (Global and Planetary Change, Volume 40, Issues 1-2, Pages 49-54, January 2004)
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    New perspectives for the future of the Maldives
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    Snowfall-Driven Growth in East Antarctic Ice Sheet Mitigates Recent Sea-Level Rise
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    A Millennium Scale Sunspot Reconstruction: Evidence For an Unusually Active Sun Since the 1940's
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    Altitude variations of cosmic ray induced production of aerosols: Implications for global cloudiness and climate
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    Celestial Climate Driver: A Perspective from Four Billion Years of the Carbon Cycle
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    - Ján Veizer

    Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate?
    (GSA Volume 13, Issue 7, July 2003)
    - Nir J. Shaviv, Ján Veizer

    Cosmic rays and Earth's climate
    (Space Science Review 93: 155-166, 2000)
    - Henrik Svensmark

    Cosmic rays and climate - The influence of cosmic rays on terrestrial clouds and global warming
    (Astronomy & Geophysics, Volume 41 Issue 4 Page 4.18-4.22, August 2000)
    - E Pallé Bagó, C J Butler

    Cosmic Rays, Clouds, and Climate
    (Space Science Reviews, v. 94, Issue 1/2, p. 215-230, 2000)
    - Nigel Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

    Cosmoclimatology: a new theory emerges
    (Astronomy & Geophysics, Volume 48 Issue 1 Page 1.18-1.24, February 2007)
    - Henrik Svensmark

    Empirical evidence for a nonlinear effect of galactic cosmic rays on clouds
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    - R. Giles Harrison, David B. Stephenson

    Evidence of Solar Variation in Tree-Ring-Based Climate Reconstructions
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    Evidence for a physical linkage between galactic cosmic rays and regional climate time series
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    Formation
    of large NAT particles and denitrification in polar stratosphere:
    possible role of cosmic rays and effect of solar activity

    (Atmos. Chem. Phys., 4, 2273-2283, 2004)
    - F. Yu

    Geophysical, archaeological, and historical evidence support a solar-output model for climate change
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    - Charles A. Perry, Kenneth J. Hsu

    Has solar variability caused climate change that affected human culture?
    (Advances in Space Research, Volume 40, Issue 7, Pages 1173-1180, 2007)
    - Joan Feynmana

    Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate
    (Physical Review Letters - November 30, 1998 - Volume 81, Issue 22, pp. 5027-5030)
    - Henrik Svensmark

    Is solar variability reflected in the Nile River?
    (Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 111, D21114, 2006)
    - Alexander Ruzmaikin, Joan Feynman, Yuk L. Yung

    Length of the Solar Cycle: An Indicator of Solar Activity Closely Associated with Climate
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    - E. Friis-Christensen, K. Lassen

    Linkages between solar activity, climate predictability and water resource development
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    Long-Period Cycles of the Sun's Activity Recorded in Direct Solar Data and Proxies
    (Solar Physics, Volume 211, Numbers 1-2, December, 2002)
    - M.G. Ogurtsov, Yu.A. Nagovitsyn, G.E. Kocharov, H. Jungner

    Low cloud properties influenced by cosmic rays
    (Phys. Rev. Lett., 85(23), 5004-5007, 2000)
    - Nigel D Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

    On climate response to changes in the cosmic ray flux and radiative budget
    (Journal of Geophysical Research, Volume 110, A08105, 2005)
    - Nir J. Shaviv

    On the possible contribution of solar-cosmic factors to the global warming of XX century
    (Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics, Volume 71, Number 7, July, 2007)
    - M. G. Ogurtsov

    On the relationship of cosmic ray flux and precipitation
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 28, No. 8, pp. 1527–1530, 2001)
    - Dominic R. Kniveton and Martin C. Todd

    Persistent Solar Influence on North Atlantic Climate During the Holocene
    (Science, Vol. 294. no. 5549, pp. 2130 - 2136, 7 December 2001)
    - Gerard Bond, Bernd Kromer, Juerg Beer, Raimund Muscheler, Michael N. Evans, William Showers, Sharon Hoffmann, Rusty Lotti-Bond, Irka Hajdas, Georges Bonani

    Phenomenological solar contribution to the 1900–2000 global surface warming
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, L05708, 2006)
    - N. Scafetta, B. J. West

    Phenomenological solar signature in 400 years of reconstructed Northern Hemisphere temperature record
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, L17718, 2006)
    - N. Scafetta, B. J. West

    Reconstruction of solar irradiance since 1610: Implications for climate change
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 22, No. 23, PAGES 3195–3198, 1995)
    - Judith Lean, Juerg Beer, Raymond Bradley

    Reply to Lockwood and Fröhlich – The persistent role of the Sun in climate forcing
    (Danish National Space Center Scientific Report, 3/2007)
    - H. Svensmark, E.Friis-Christensen

    Regional tropospheric responses to long-term solar activity variations
    (Advances in Space Research, Volume 40, Issue 7, Pages 1167-1172, 2007)
    - O.M. Raspopov, V.A. Dergachev, A.V. Kuzmin, O.V. Kozyreva, M.G. Ogurtsov, T. Kolström and E. Lopatin

    Rhodes Fairbridge and the idea that the solar system regulates the Earth’s climate
    (Journal of Coastal Research, SI 50, pp. 955-968, 2007)
    - Richard Mackey

    Solar correlates of Southern Hemisphere mid-latitude climate variability
    (International Journal of Climatology, Volume 22, Issue 8 , Pages 901 - 915, 27 May 2002)
    - Ronald E. Thresher

    Solar Cycle Variability, Ozone, and Climate
    (Science, Vol. 284. no. 5412, pp. 305 - 308, 9 April 1999)
    - Drew Shindell, David Rind, Nambeth Balachandran, Judith Lean, Patrick Lonergan

    Solar total irradiance variation and the global sea surface temperature record
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    - George C. Reid

    Solar Variability Over the Past Several Millennia
    (Space Science Reviews, Volume 125, Issue 1-4, pp. 67-79, Friday, December 22, 2006)
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    Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature
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    - H. B. Hammel, G. W. Lockwood

    Surface warming by the solar cycle as revealed by the composite mean difference projection
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    - Charles D. Camp, Ka Kit Tung

    The Antarctic climate anomaly and galactic cosmic rays
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    - Henrik Svensmark

    The link between the solar dynamo and climate - The evidence from a long mean air temperature series from Northern Ireland
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    - C.J. Butler, D.J. Johnston

    Variations in Radiocarbon Concentration and Sunspot Activity
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    Variations in the Earth's Orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages
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    - J. D. Hays, John Imbrie, N. J. Shackleton

    Variation of Cosmic Ray Flux and Global Cloud Coverage - a Missing Link in Solar-Climate Relationships
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    - Henrik Svensmark, Eigil Friis-Christensen

    Variations
    of solar coronal hole area and terrestrial lower tropospheric air
    temperature from 1979 to mid-1998: astronomical forcings of change in
    earth's climate?

    (New Astronomy, Volume 4, Issue 8, Pages 563-579, January 2000)
    - W. Soon, S. Baliunas, E. S. Posmentier, P. Okeke

    Variable solar irradiance as a plausible agent for multidecadal variations in the Arctic-wide surface air temperature record of the past 130 years
    (Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L16712, 2005)
    - Willie W.-H. Soon

    What do we really know about the Sun-climate connection?
    (Advances in Space Research, Volume 20, Issue 4-5, p. 913-921, 1997)
    - Eigil Friis-Christensen, Henrik Svensmark

    Will We Face Global Warming in the Nearest Future?
    (Geomagnetism i Aeronomia, Vol. 43, pp. 124-127, 2003)
    - V. S. Bashkirtsev, G. P. Mashnich

    Species Extinctions:

    Dangers of crying wolf over risk of extinctions
    (Nature 428, 799, 22 April 2004)
    - Richard J. Ladle, Paul Jepson, Miguel B. Araújo & Robert J. Whittaker

    Temperatures:

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    Altitude dependence of atmospheric temperature trends: Climate models versus observation
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    Disparity of tropospheric and surface temperature trends: New evidence
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    The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

    Pop Tech

    normally i don't appreciate the long lists of un-commented upon links as i like to see the logic and debate; but in this case Giles did ask for it.  ( looking about:  Where's Free with his comprehensive list award?)

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

    Geez, it's like the monolith from 2001.

    My neck's getting a crick in it.

    If Free's CL Awards were medals, PT wouldn't be able to walk upright.

    -PJ

    "Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07

    re:All The Peer Review You Want

    You said that JS quotes peer-reviewed sources routinely; 

    This isn't a list of JS posts or Comments citing peer reviewed material.  But congrats on the good copy/paste skills.

     Now; if you go to www.ipcc.ch and open any one chapter of any one Working Group report, you'll find 10-16 pages of double columned, single spaced citations of peer reviewed studies and research.  

    Any one chapter will have more than what you copied in here. Then x that by 9-10 chapters and x that by the Working Groups.

     And then do a bit of alt F and discover that many of your sources are in those reports..... Their research is already factored in.  While they may prove a point, it is not enough to discount the trends.

    Maybe you need to read Junk Science More

    Have fun look through the archives. Many of the science stories that are linked to are press releases for new papers or scientific studies. He also obviously includes many news stories on subjects as well.

    I understand that dealing with the reality that Peer Reviewed Science Exists debunking the hysteria you so much cherish is hard to take but you will get over it.

    The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

    Now; if you go to

    Now; if you go to www.ipcc.ch
    and open any one chapter of any one Working Group report, you'll find
    10-16 pages of double columned, single spaced citations of peer
    reviewed studies and research.

    Any one chapter will have more than what you copied in here. Then x that by 9-10 chapters and x that by the Working Groups.

    That's Nice

    Those reports cover a vast amount of subject matter and not even remotely do all those papers cited by the IPCC deal directly with man-made global warming. There are many more papers then what I cited. Each paper I cited can cite dozens more.

    500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares (Heartland Institute)

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    vast amount of subject matter

    That would be because before assigning anthropogenic CO2 as the cause, climate scientists want to look at all possible causes.

    So, solar, methane hydrates, orbits, volcanic, etc are all explored.

    In fact, IPCC WG 1 SPM( http://www.ipcc.ch/p...) page 4 has a chart listing all forcings and their individual effects, so you can look at CO2, ozone, etc. and see what the total body of research says. Many of your sources are in the IPCC citations because of this.

     

    Skeptics tend to cherry-pick and try to say the latest and greatest 'disproves' AGW, not realizing that data (or the studies that it was derived from) are already accounted for .

     

    "Of the more than 29,000 observational data series, from 75 studies, that show significant change in many physical
    and biological systems, more than 89% are consistent with the direction of change expected as a response to
    warming" http://www.ipcc.ch/p...

     

     

    Cherry Picked Indeed

    It is nice that the IPCC can Cherry Pick what it wishes to ignore to propagandize it's point which is to prove Man is causing Global Warming and not be honest about it in a purely scientific way.

    The fact remains a vast amount of those sources have nothing to do with Man-Made Global Warming.

    "Forcings" is a made up figure that has no real value. It is used as propaganda for the weak minded who do not understand science or the bogus computer models they use.

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    Unfortunately, I no longer

    Unfortunately, I no longer have the source and sections/subsections. IPCC has some interesting definitions of Climate Change. In one section it defines climate change as change of any cause. Natural and man made. However in later portions it is defined as anthropogenic. Consequently in one section of IPCC, a paper on the PDO or NAO or solar cycles is accept. Then through the magic of IPCC it becomes evidence of anthropogenic warming. (This later definition may be in the same policy where they specify that we're to pay for the worlds response.)

    But then IPCC is really the UN. And we know the UN is beyond reproach. After all look at what UN troops that go in to maintain peace. Like sitting by when genocide goes on. Or rape. Or selling donated food. Then there's food for oil.

     

    "There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
    - Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

    You place too much faith in

    You place too much faith in peer review.  Consider the flagship paper of the 3AR, from 2001.  It features as one of its most important results a very well know peer-reviewed paper by Mann, Bradley and Hogan [MBH98].  This paper purports to prove that the 1990's were the warmest decade in the last 600 years.  Its successor paper, [MBH99], makes the same claim over the last 1000 years.  MBH98 was published in Nature, one of the two leading peer-reviewed science journals in this country.  MBH99 first appeared in the Journal of the AGU, another highly ranked peer-reviewed journal.

    Now, look around the 4AR, released in 2007.  You will notice these two papers are not even mentioned, whereas in 2001 they had been the cornerstones.  How could this be? 

    Very simple.  These papers were discredited.   They were first fundamentally criticized by McIntyre and McKitrick, two Canadian  Statisticians.  This is their critique, also peer-reviewed.  Michael Mann and his co-conspirators vigorously attacked M&M.  The coup de grace was finally delivered by Dr. Edward Wegman, a noted statistician from George Mason University.  You don't believe this debunking was effective?   MBH98 isn't even listed in the 4AR as a reference, that is how effective this was.

    One might ask how a paper that was accepted for publication in Nature could be so completely discredited.  Simple:  Peer review does not guarantee the validity of any paper.  It only serves to discover its acceptability.  A paper acceptable for publication can still contain gross erros or even outright fraud.

    The entire IPCC process and approach is politically motivated and is disingenuous.  This tract discusses in detail what is scintifically incorrect about the IPCC approach. 

    Nice job NL

    Are we going through this again? Peer review means nothing if a preconcieved agenda is being pushed. You have hit the nail on the head.

    M&M

    And further commenting on M&M's work found their math was flawed, not reproducible, and didn't look at the full dataset of Mann, et al.

    Also, 4th still does use Mann, et al and augments it with several other studies that use other datasets and comes up with th