If all the global warming alarmists are right, the world is about to come to an end because the planet's getting too darned hot.
So, why is it so darned cold?
As Johnny Carson would have expected from his audience, "How cold is it?"
Well, as reported by the Capital Times, Madison, Wisconsin, has just broken an all-time record for the most snowfall in one year (emphasis added):
The record has been broken. Can we start spring now?
Madison should end up with about 3-4 inches of fluffy light snow today, which will push the seasonal total close to 79 inches, shattering the all-time snowfall record of 76.1 inches set in the winter of 1978-79.
"It's a record," said Weather Central meteorologist Brian Olson. "There's no official word yet since we have to wait for the snow to stop, but we have enough on the ground to say the seasonal snowfall record has been broken."
Of course, as NewBusters readers are fully aware, the extraordinarily cold winter of 2008 in the northern hemisphere was presaged by an extraordinarily cold winter last year in the southern hemisphere -- despite American media ignoring such.
Add it all up, and the global warming alarmists in the media that have nicely changed the tagline to "climate change" at some point are going to have to realize that the climate is indeed changing: IT'S GETTING COLDER!
Must be all that awful carbon dioxide in the atmosphere!
















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It's very funny how in
February 12, 2008 - 22:51 ET by red_dragon311It's very funny how in Chicago ( I don't live in the city proper but if i were to say Round Lake Baech IL would anybody other then people whow live know I am talking about) we just got hit with 12 inches of global warming 6 days ago and we are getting 4 more right now, with 3 more coming on Thursday or Friday.
I don't try to preach but when AGW is brought up in a discussion and I try to add to it by putting out info, as in how did the earth get out of the other ices ages with man putting CO2 in the air, and that the ice caps of mars are melting, and the answer i get is " well yea but we are speeding up the process"
why are people so hell bent on this guilt, and the hippies of the 60's fighting "the man".....have now become "the man" but of leftist views.
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
Round Lake Beach
February 12, 2008 - 23:33 ET by masslibertarianUsed to live in Lake Villa. I know exactly where you're talking about - a stone's throw from the Cheddar Curtain.
LOL I knew if i put that
February 13, 2008 - 02:13 ET by red_dragon311LOL I knew if i put that somebody would give me a shout out
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Well I noticed it, being
February 12, 2008 - 22:51 ET by DCC1Well I noticed it, being that I live 20 miles north of PRM (Peoples Republic of Madison) its hard not to. It's kinda funny all this snow is driving the GW freaks into their bunkers for the winter. Problem is, if we get one thaw in march all the sudden they pop right back out and say see, told you it's global warming!!!
If it's cold it's weather, if it's warm it's climate, we can't win!
Terrorists want change too
Too true and the worst
February 13, 2008 - 00:23 ET by red_dragon311Too true
and the worst part is when you try to tell people this, that it's just a natural cycle they look at you like you are some kind of fool.
this guy i work with gave me Algores movie to watch, I had to watch it in 15-20 min segments, or i would have thrown up all over my laptop, and in between the movie i watched some of the links Pop tech had, just to balance it out.
well anyway I talked with my friend and I told him about some of the basic things, how recycling causes more harm then good, and that i have no problem with hybrid cars if they save me money in the long run. he said to me that yes he did know about the recycling but if it saved trees then it was worth it, and with the hybrid cars "well what if it costs more but saves the planet?" and " is money all you think about?"
this is the mind set we are dealing with here, the lowest common denominator, "if the big impotant people say it, it MUST be so" but at the same time if the right says it well then it's all lies.......
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red dragon....
February 13, 2008 - 00:33 ET by BlondeThat hybrid car is swell....but no one, absolutely no one, knows how to recycle those batteries.
It will cost you about $5 grand to replace that battery...if you can find someone to take the old one.
All the more reason to stick to what one knows. Last I heard, there was no trick to dumping a lemon of the gasoline burning variety.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I never really thought
February 13, 2008 - 02:16 ET by red_dragon311I never really thought about that, so what the hell.......they preach to the liliputians that we need to do all of this when it's reallt taking 1 step forward but 2 steps back.....my head is going to explode
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Trees Aren't cut for Paper
February 13, 2008 - 17:13 ET by Mike From CanmorePaper is a bi-product made from unusable wood cut from trees to make lumber. Recycling paper does not save trees. If they were cut for paper, we would be in a paperless society because nobody could afford paper.
In most of Canada, where most of our trees are cut from Crownland, if lumber companies don't cut the pre-scribed amount, they lose their annual allowable cuts (AAC). So, they keep cutting, suppressing lumber prices in the era of lower demand (sub prime housing is the main driver). Why do gov'ts operate this way? Jobs and taxes. Gov't is more interested in jobs and taxes than saving trees. So, by recycling, all the your buddy does is reduce demand for paper, put more energy into the recycling which means more CO2 released into the air from the energy required to recycle. A lot less would be released if they just dump it and let it rot back to it's base components. It only reduces the amount of land required for land fill. There are thousands of empty mines around that could be used for it. 1000 years from now, you wouldn't even know it was a land fill and you wouldn't even know it was there between now and then. The limited ability of some people to understand complex systems tells you why they reach to simple solutions like CO2 driven GW. The fact they don't let free markets rather than centralized command dictate where things end up says they don't understand economics and systems would achieve their "natural" state. Don't like landfills? Let incinerators deal with it. I was selling equipment to a company in Toronto that designed and built incinerators. The guy I was dealing with showed me the data from a unit they built in Minneapolis. Particulate count going in was HIGHER than those going out. They also used the system to generate power. Cleaner air and power. Leads to a reduced demand for oil/coal/nuclear/hydro. Hmmmm. Sounds environmentally sound to me. That was 15 years ago. Guarantee you technology has improved performance since then.
There are 2 types of politicians. Those who know AGW is a sham and stupid ones.
Global WARMING?
February 12, 2008 - 23:37 ET by SATerpHere in sunny south central Texas, we don't get snow, we just get occasional nights below 32 where we have to cover the more fragile of our outside plants. In previous years, I might have to do that 3 or so nights during the winter. This year, I must have been out 30 times, at least.
Global warming, yeah, right.
Rhetorical question
February 12, 2008 - 23:39 ET by masslibertarianWill the media notice? Yeah, and I have some beachfront property in Arizona to ... wait ... need a new saying ... they would report that as fact.
I know this is a waste of time,
February 12, 2008 - 23:56 ET by vaboxrboybut I will make a plea one last time. Please take some time to read many sources about what global warming or climate change is. It means that our weather patterns are changing- not getting warmer or colder per sea. The Southeast is in an epic drought. We had wildfires yesterday with 40mph winds in NC. California had wild fires and then floods. In Europe 14,000 people died in 2003 because of the heat. They don't even understand the concept of air conditioning over there because it wasn't needed before. And those of you in the Northeast have been ravaged by too much rain while tornadoes killed dozens in past weeks and it's winter.
PLEASE! Take about 15minutes and get just a little educated and stop attacking this as a political issue. I'm not saying that we (humans) are causing it, but we can't just say that it's liberals with an agenda. My yard is dying because i can't even hand water it, Georgia is throwing money at Tennesee to get water for its state.
Stand back, look at the big picture and ask, what's really going on and then come back with something other than, the msm is causing alaram and NBC is a fraud for trying to be green.
I have had to turn my air conditioner on in December, January and this month more than I have had to look for sweaters.
And please don't send nasty follow-ups unless/untill you have read up on things just a bit.
SINCERELY
BTW, the southwest is coming
February 13, 2008 - 00:16 ET by balboaBTW, the southwest is coming out of an unusual stretch of rainfall for the past 100 years or so, according to tree rings in a 200+ year-old tree. So, it's only going to get more arid, now that millions of people have moved there...
I understand the water
February 13, 2008 - 10:04 ET by danboI understand the water problems may get wose in the Southwest. Especially in Nevada. And it is anthropogenic, but not because of CO2. But I'm sure the environmentalist will say it's AGW.
I understand Harry Reid pushed through a bill to tap the Great Basin aquifer to bring water to Las Vegas. This will dry up the springs, causing problems for the desert ecosystem from Death Valley to western Utah.
All without a peep from the environmentalist.
Oil from Anwar vrs caribo? No. Water for Harry Reids pit mines and land deals, Vrs the desert ecosystem and ranches? Yes.
Source.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
I have had to turn my air
February 13, 2008 - 00:26 ET by MidAmericaI have had to turn my air conditioner on in December, January and this month more than I have had to look for sweaters.
Why would you turn on your air conditioner? That's just adding to the problem.
So I take it that you are
February 13, 2008 - 00:33 ET by ZayneSo I take it that you are standing by a presumed fact that Georgia has never ever had a drought before? Or, that that area of California has never had fires spread by high winds? ...You sound far too superior (intellectually) to believe this.
All that you have used to defend your position have occured on many ocasions in these areas. You are cherry picking my friend.
Yes Please Get "Educated" About Global Warming
February 13, 2008 - 00:56 ET by PopularTechDroughts, wildfires, floods and Tornadoes all happened before and will happen again. Having to turn your AC on in Georgia (above Florida) is not exactly earth shattering proof of anything. The fact is I just had some -10 degree Global Warming last night in NJ and have been running my heater non stop since November. So yes please spend some time and get "Educated" about the global warming propaganda:
Censored Global Warming Videos
NO 'Consensus' on "Man-Made" Global Warming
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
So much for no attacks
February 13, 2008 - 01:33 ET by vaboxrboyI never said I live in GA. I live further north than that. The entire Southeast is in extreme drought. And yes, they do happen every now and then, but when we see such extremes in weather brought in such a short time it is unusual. I asked not to be attacked on these facts, but I see that civil discourse is hard to find these days. No matter really to those with agendas. I like to READ many sources- and I don't even watch the networks for news because I know it's all hyped and spun. I do watch to see what they're pushing though.
Snow is precipitation, not an indcator of colder temperatures really.
All I ask is that you (bloggers) really take time to step back and see if you are attacking facts, the messenger, or those who want to change things in a way that is different from a certain viewpoint.
I'm not even in favor of compact flourescent bulbs or hybrids because the batteries contain more chemicals that are harmful so it's a damned if you do...
In the 70's we were asked to do simple things like turn off lights, lower the heat at night, etc because we thought our oil was running out. We did it then without whining about it, but now since it's tied in with politics and bias in the media, anyone urging us to do these things is liberal or unhinged, etc.
Our minds are like parachutes, they only work when open.
Nothing unusual about changing weather
February 13, 2008 - 01:49 ET by PopularTechThe only thing unusual is people are paying attention to everything that happens with the weather and now blaming it on the propaganda that is "man-made" global warming.
So you are suggesting we do what Al Gore says even though he cannot prove it via the Scientific Method? That is religion not science.
What facts do you want? Name them and I will provide them.
My mind is beyond open.
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You made my point...
February 13, 2008 - 02:12 ET by vaboxrboyI never mentioned Al Gore. I'm not a fan but i did see his movie and fell asleep during it.
All I am saying is use different news sources to form an opinion on the issue for now. I've read that places are getting too much rain, not enough, it's very cold, it's very hot. etc, etc in all the wrong places.
Let's decide to take a look and see if all these changes are just a bump, a trend, or nothing and then take rational steps. If it's nothing great, if it's something we have to act.
I'm not looking to write a book about climate change or global warming or however you want to pharse it.I am concerned with the weather that is just odd, and it needs to be studied further.
Let's take a breath, put it all together and see what we come up with rather than attaching Al Gore or the msm media to it and saying it's nothing without discussion.
That's what I mean by being open. It will take a few years to sort it out, but in the meantime, news outlets have to make money on something and right now it's something the people are hooked on and advertisers and stores that "going green" is a buzz that is keeping interest for now.
What Facts do you Want?
February 13, 2008 - 02:55 ET by PopularTechI use all types of sources! You simply read too much hysteria. There is nothing odd about the weather.
What rational steps? Who says we can control the climate?
I repeat what facts do you want? I am incredibly rational and have researched this extensively. So I repeat what facts do you want?
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You do realize
February 13, 2008 - 09:25 ET by voodoodaddythat in the 70's were also told we were going into the worst ice age and we were all going to die. We were all scared into buying freeze dried foods and storing them as we were going to be unable to grow food it would be so cold.
Please, the facts are out there and have been out there proving time and time again that this Global Warming, oops, I mean climate change is a giant farce. And I mean just about everything about this gloabl warming. All you have to do is read. They have not and so far cannot prove MAN has anything to do with climate change. What they can't get past their one side minds is that climate change is natural. This includes extreme droughts, extreme temperature changes, extreme weather, extreme rain, and so on. Climate change has been going on for millions of years.
So yes, please take your own advice and get educated. OPEN YOUR PARACHUTE and check the facts.
No one is against change as long as the change is based on facts and reality. The Global Warming, oops, I mean climate change alarmists have neither to this day.
I will ket you off on your statement about snow. I think you have dug yourself into a hole deep enough as it stands.
vaboxrboy,
February 13, 2008 - 01:56 ET by R D HelmNo one here is denying that the climate is changing. According to the geological record, it has been doing this for eons. My guess is that it will continue for many, many more.
And just exactly what are we supposed to do about it?
We could all, of course, bury our cars, move into tents and spend the rest of our miserable lives gathering fruits and berries, but climate change will continue regardless.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Okay, we agree...
February 13, 2008 - 02:40 ET by vaboxrboyBut again, we need to step back and see if we are the cause of it, is the earth just going through a cycle, and if we are warming or cooling and what would be the result of either.
Then we can decide if we should stop building so much on the coast, start a really aggressive push towards not putting more CO2 in the air, move people inland, or whaterever seems REASONABLE.
Notice, no extremes in my comments. We will adapt to whatever happens regardless. It's all about being aware of what's coming. Case in point. In the Netherlands they know that they well have floods so they built gates to protect them. That's the sort of thing that I am talking about. Finding out what we're in store for and making gradual, reasonable changes to help us make whatever the transition is over time.
Personally I wouldn't mind another ice age, but I hate wearing winter clothes so warming is more my style. Truth is, none us will see all these changes in OUR lifetimes, but I would like to leave the planet to our kids moving toward a better direction.
And no, I'm not giving up my suv, widescreen tv's or even changing my lightbulbs over anytime soon. If/when I have to I will, but until then let's just chill, no pun intended, and be rational.
Here are some science based "facts" for you
February 13, 2008 - 03:04 ET by PopularTechHere are some science based "facts" for you:
1500-Year Climate Cycle:
The Physical Evidence of Earth's Unstoppable 1,500-Year Climate Cycle (National Center for Policy Analysis)
Carbon Dioxide Did Not End The Last Ice Age, Study Says (Science Daily)
Earth Cools In Persistent, 1,500-Year Rhythm, Say Columbia Scientists, Working From Sea Cores (Science Daily)
Global Warming Natural, May End Within 20 Years, Says Ohio State University Researcher (Science Daily)
Natural Climate Change May Be Larger Than Commonly Thought (Science Daily)
Pacific Ocean Temperature Changes Point To Natural Climate Variability (Science Daily)
Peer-Review Papers supporting the 1,500-Year Climate Cycle:
A 150,000-year climatic record from Antarctic ice
(Nature 316, 591 - 596, 15 August 1985)
- C. Lorius, C. Ritz, J. Jouzel, L. Merlivat, N. I. Barkov
A Pervasive Millennial-Scale Cycle in North Atlantic Holocene and Glacial Climates
(Science, Vol. 278. no. 5341, pp. 1257 - 1266, 14 November 1997)
- Gerard Bond, William Showers, Maziet Cheseby, Rusty Lotti, Peter Almasi, Peter deMenocal, Paul Priore, Heidi Cullen, Irka Hajdas, Georges Bonani
A Variable Sun Paces Millennial Climate
(Science, Vol. 294. no. 5546, pp. 1431 - 1433, 16 November 2001)
- Richard A. Kerr
Cyclic Variation and Solar Forcing of Holocene Climate in the Alaskan Subarctic
(Science, Vol. 301. no. 5641, pp. 1890 - 1893, 26 September 2003)
- Feng Sheng Hu, Darrell Kaufman, Sumiko Yoneji, David Nelson, Aldo Shemesh, Yongsong Huang, Jian Tian, Gerard Bond, Benjamin Clegg, Thomas Brown
Decadal to millennial cyclicity in varves and turbidites from the Arabian Sea: hypothesis of tidal origin
(Global and Planetary Change, Volume 34, Issues 3-4, Pages 313-325, November 2002)
- W. H. Bergera, U. von Rad
Late Holocene approximately 1500 yr climatic periodicities and their implications
(Geology, v. 26; no. 5; p. 471-473, May 1998)
- Ian D. Campbell, Celina Campbell, Michael J. Apps, Nathaniel W. Rutter, Andrew B. G. Bush
Possible solar origin of the 1,470-year glacial climate cycle demonstrated in a coupled model
(Nature 438, 208-211, 10 November 2005)
- Holger Braun, Marcus Christl, Stefan Rahmstorf, Andrey Ganopolski, Augusto Mangini, Claudia Kubatzki, Kurt Roth, Bernd Kromet
The 1,800-year oceanic tidal cycle: A possible cause of rapid climate change
(PNAS, vol. 97, no. 8, 3814-3819, April 11, 2000)
- Charles D. Keeling, Timothy P. Whorf
The origin of the 1500-year climate cycles in Holocene North-Atlantic records
(Climate of the Past Discussions, Volume 3, Issue 2, pp.679-692, 2007)
- M. Debret, V. Bout-Roumazeilles, F. Grousset, M. Desmet, J. F. McManus, N. Massei, D. Sebag, J.-R. Petit, Y. Copard, A. Trentesaux
Timing of abrupt climate change: A precise clock
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 30, NO. 10, 1510, 2003)
- Stefan Rahmstorf
Timing of Millennial-Scale Climate Change in Antarctica and Greenland During the Last Glacial Period
(Science, Volume 291, Issue 5501, pp. 109-112, 2001)
- Thomas Blunier, Edward J. Brook
Widespread evidence of 1500 yr climate variability in North America during the past 14 000 yr
(Geology, v. 30, no. 5, p. 455-458, May 2002)
- André E. Viau, Konrad Gajewski, Philippe Fines, David E. Atkinson, Michael C. Sawada
Astronomical Theory:
Astronomical Theory of Climate Change (NOAA)
Ancient Climate Excursion Linked To A Rare Anomaly In Earth's Orbit (Science Daily)
Changing Orbit Explains Ice Ages, Scientist Says (Space.com)
Climate Model For Earth Also Describes Changes On Mars (Science Daily)
Cosmic dust may change climate (ABC, Australia)
Earth's orbit creates more than a leap year (Washington University)
Global wobbling may melt the ice (NewScientist)
Interplanetary Dust May Cause Climate Change, Gradual Extinction (Science Daily)
Longterm Climate Change Due to Astronomical Cycles (UC Berkley)
Martian 'wobbles' shift climate (BBC)
Milankovitch Cycles and the Ice Ages (NASA)
Other Planets Influence Earth's Climate, University Of Toronto Scientist Says (Science Daily)
Study Links Extinction Cycles to Changes in Earth's Orbit and Tilt (The New York Times)
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
What's "normal"?
February 13, 2008 - 08:56 ET by masslibertarian"It means that our weather patterns are changing- not getting warmer or colder per sea. [sic]"
A couple of comments are warranted here. First, AGW theory holds that these changing weather patterns would be caused by an increase in the average global temperature, so it does follow that "warming" must be occurring.
Second, please define for me the baseline for "normal" weather patterns. The planet has been through warming phases, cooling phases, wet phases, dry phases, etc. for eons. It sounds like change is normal to me.
AGW believers like to point to weather events as evidence of "global warming" only when it's convenient. They'll also ignore the impact of plenty of inconvenient truths like the urban heat island effect, the effect of land use changes, the shoddy condition and reduction in number of weather stations around the world, etc. on the temperature record when running around proclaiming that year x was the "hottest year on record" in support of their cause.
Satellite data records show
February 13, 2008 - 22:33 ET by lotrSatellite data records show a global mean surface warming trend not inconsistent with conventional surface observations. Satellites are not subject to any urban heat island effects, weather stations or land use changes.
References, please?
February 13, 2008 - 22:39 ET by NL207References, please?
The really cool thing about
February 13, 2008 - 22:43 ET by Clear thinkerThe really cool thing about satellites is... you can track the Polar Bears while swimming, in case they ever decide to winter in Miami.
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Sorry. Climate is in
February 13, 2008 - 10:24 ET by danboSorry. Climate is in constant flux. Sometimes slow sometimes extreme. Two of the worse known climate disasters were probably the climate disaster of 535/6 and the year without summer (1816?). (Both cold events.) I think they both killed a few more people than 14,000. With a much smaller population base. The 535/36 disaster triggered the plague. So many died they stopped counting the bodies.
How much have you read?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
you MORON!
February 13, 2008 - 00:03 ET by bktIt's not GLOBAL WARMING, it's "CLIMATE CHANGE"!
Anything that seems odd, different, unusual (I know, all synonyms) can now be classified as "climate change", thus begging for the intervention of some government body.
(just kidding, Noel... keep up the good work.)
They can try to change the
February 13, 2008 - 09:16 ET by danboThey can try to change the name to "Climate Change". But it's "CO2" coming from oil and coal. Claiming CO2 causes a "Greenhouse" effect.
If the CO2 causes lower tempertures, that's a wierd greenhouse effect. It's global warming.
When people realize they've been lied to by the AGW mafia, there will be a price to pay. Those scientist and politicians, and even the media, will be remembered as the liars and fools they are.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
delete
February 13, 2008 - 00:24 ET by MidAmericadelete
Continued Proof of what my Atmospheric Law Dictates
February 13, 2008 - 00:42 ET by Lame CherryI posted and exclusive to Newsbusters in my work on solar, weather and climate which stated that the sun in it's bandwidth specific warming was creating more vapor to be drawn into storm systems so they would drop more moisture on the United States and other areas.
Wisconsin is proof of that agtG.
I also am a firm believer in God moving storms and systems protecting regions and a very fascinating pattern has emerged again this year in storms tracking out of Trinidad Colorado and sweeping through Kansas, into Iowa, Wisconsin and then heading into the Ohio.
Right now another storm surge is about to sweep from Montana to North Dakota to the east.............leaving a region of the Dakotas and Nebraska which has been more or less immune from these storms which is unheard of.
Most Trinidad and Alberta Clipper systems pound South Dakota and Nebraska like a hurricane. In fact, these things are cyclones or land hurricanes. They will sweep up the plains and once hitting the area will with back slope winds from the northeast dump another foot of snow.........that has been absent.
The current atmospheric slosh as the earth moves to the northern summer months is slamming cold air over the region causing storms to take different patterns than traditionally. In my studies the prevailing winds we were all taught have disappeared too as they used to be only northwest and southwest. Now the northern plains are north, east, and south winds with only occassional westerlies or the clipper northwest storms.
The entire weather system has been changing in I have photographed those dark blue wind clouds only associated with summer storms, but now showing up in 10 degree to below zero weather when the sun is warming the atmosphere but not affecting the near earth temperatures as land etc... is void of fluids to absorb this type of heat.
Until the sun stops it's radiant factor increase the United States will continue to have more moisture, especially in the interior as the mountains will not deplete the excess as before.
There are other factors involved which I will not share as my findings are being looked at by people with fudd after their names, but that is why Wisconsin is having more snow.
The pattern should also continue this summer for those massive rain storms which have been dropping 12 inches of rain in spot flooding.
We have though not reached saturation point yet as I have records in Minnesota of somewhere in the mid 1800's around 30 inches of rain deluged and area in one hyper storm. So these sun radiant fluctuations do have historical basis in repeating.
Even with west nile, I still prefer the rain though to the snow which piles up..........and sort of would have liked global warming to have been true.
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Life (Truth) Always Finds A Way
February 13, 2008 - 01:13 ET by rammingspeedThe MSM can only filibuster the truth for so long. The truth about Madison, WI record snowfall is getting out there, squeezing past the armed guards of the traditional press. People are being given the information they need, they'll always stand against anyone who actually puts their hands on their throats. That's when people will say "no more" and the end of the Leftist pipe dream will come at the ballot box. Remember the house and senate smash of '94? It'll happen again in a nanosecond when the global warming laws REALLY start to unreasonably rip money from people's pockets.
"The quickest way to get rid of bad laws is to vigorously enforce them" Abe Lincoln
I grew up in Wisconsin
February 13, 2008 - 01:54 ET by Republican_by_DefaultI spent most of the first 20 years of my life about 100 miles North of Madison. I graduated High School in '79 so I remember that winter very well. Spring break in Daytona Beach was the only cure for it.
Global warming? Washington state has had record snowfalls as well, and spent it's entire snow removal budget by the end of January. Snow so deep the ski hills couldn't open (not a problem in Wisconsin, no hills).
I can't understand why these people touting global warming don't turn red from embarrassment (or the cold) everytime they bring it up. True believers, I guess. And they have the audacity to criticize Christians for blind faith. Too bad they're looking into a lens and not a mirror.
The problem with the
February 13, 2008 - 02:15 ET by Parker1227The problem with the "climate change" or "more variability" argument, isn't a that we need to open our eyes to see that we have had some unusual weather lately, it is that unusual weather doesn't prove (or disprove) causation. And even the assumption that this weather is really "unusual" is based on a minuscule sample of accurately recorded weather - a few decades of satellite, radar, airplane and weather station data compared to thousands of years of haphazard personal accounts and observations.
Despite the claim (read: lie) that the argument is over as to the cause of climate change (Rep. R. Kennedy Jr. even declared that skeptics were committing "treason"), there are hundreds of scientists not on the payroll of Big Oil who see other factors such as solar activity and its relation to cloud cover as being much more powerful drivers of climate change than CO2.
The somewhat snarky barbs thrown by NB authors and bloggers when unusual cold or snow occurs may not be proof (in the short term) any more than the anecdotal reports of hotness which have been breathlessly reported all over the MSM for the last couple years. But they are EARNED barbs against a media which screams GW! when Katrina hits and then goes mum when we have 2 straight years of low hurricane activity.
I'm glad that you want to
February 13, 2008 - 03:12 ET by Parker1227I'm glad that you want to take a "step back" but doesn't that mean NOT rushing to spend billions of dollars to reduce CO2 (and double every one's heating bills) when we really do not know that man produced CO2 is driving global warming (or "climate change" - if you prefer the sneaky word play put forth by politicos who want a back door out of their position if warming comes to a grinding halt)?
In the 70's they were
February 13, 2008 - 03:11 ET by ConservativeRexIn the 70's they were talking a slow global cooling, a new Ice Age on the way.
So I did all I could do to heat the planet up and what thanks do I get?? The way I reckon it, I saved the bloody world! And now with all this snow, I'll have to re-double my efforts.
LOL Rex
February 13, 2008 - 03:15 ET by Parker1227Good to lighten things up now and then.
Yeah, a couple days ago
February 13, 2008 - 11:25 ET by BDYeah, a couple days ago International Falls Minnesota set a record of -40 F. Guess that is due to Global Warming...
Actually, Noel, I watched
February 13, 2008 - 22:52 ET by lotrActually, Noel, I watched this whole news story on the Weather Channel on Monday night, and they were reporting that the record was about to be broken, with a reporter on site. Note that it was not a major record-breaking winter in terms of cold, but rather precipitation in the form of snow.