As NewsBusters has been reporting, MSNBC's reaction to David Shuster's "pimped out" Chelsea Clinton comment is an extraordinary example of the double standard that exists at this admittedly left-leaning cable network.
In fact, the goings-on since Shuster first made this remark last Thursday make it crystal clear that potentially insensitive comments directed at the Clinton family are thoroughly verboten by MSNBC, whereas derogatory statements concerning President George W. Bush are highly encouraged.
As another example of this hypocrisy, consider the following disgraceful report concerning Bush's twin daughters aired on MSNBC's "Countdown" November 28, 2006 (h/t NBer Grammy):
KEITH OLBERMANN, HOST: It‘s rare when the world of politics and the world of entertainment fit together as neatly as they do in our number one story in the COUNTDOWN tonight. A tale of two pairs of girls, all of them in their mid 20‘s, all of them famous, all of them providing rich fodder for the tabloids with their latest exploits. In a moment the phenomenon of Paris Hilton and her new sidekick, Britney Spears.
But first Jenna and Barbara Bush. They have regained their party girl crowns thanks to reports from their 25th birthday celebrations in Argentina this weekend. After reports of lack security, a media frenzy and at least one lurid tale in the Argentine papers about the girls running naked down a hallway of their hotel, denied fervently by that hotel, by the way, ABC News reported the situation was so bad that the U.S. embassy asked the girls to leave, which the embassy fervently denies, by the way.
But even though the twins were meant to stay in Buenos Aires until Thursday, according to ABC News at least one, Barbara, is already back in the U.S. and that report, very flimsily backed up by the website Galkers Tip Line For Celebrity Spotting, GalkerStalker, which reports that Ms. Bush was seen with an unnamed man eating Oysters in the west village of New York City last night. No word on whether Jenna Bush is likewise cutting her holiday short or having oysters.
Perhaps she is heading to southern California where the ultimate party girls are now hanging out. Somehow, since she announced her impending divorce from Kevin Federline, Britney Spears has become B.F.F. with Paris Hilton, and yes, with the less hip, that is short hand for Best Friends Forever, they tell me. Hilton and Spears have been inseparable for weeks now, spotted at trendy nightclubs in Vegas and L.A., drinking, smoking, staying out all nigh, and apparently even making peace with Hilton‘s nemesis, the actress Lindsay Lohan.
Paris Hilton‘s P.R. guy says that the whole-what would the couple name here be? Parispears, Britris, anyway, he says, the friendship is real, telling the website TMZ.com that the two are like sisters and that Spears is extremely grateful for Hilton‘s friendship, that she considers the heiress to be a role model, which might explain Ms. Spears‘ new wardrobe, extreme cleavage, short skirts, underwear optional.
On that note, who better to analyze this strange confluence of girls behaving badly than television personality and author of "All the President‘s Pets," Mo Rocca. Good evening Mo, thanks for your time.
MO ROCCA, TELEVISION PERSONALITY: Good evening Keith, thank you.
OLBERMANN: We‘ll get to the new BFFs in a moment, but let‘s start with the first twins and this rampage through Argentina. You have met the Bush daughters and you know your White Houses. Are these the kind of women who would do things like run around in a hotel naked?
ROCCA: No, certainly not. Look, we have to remember the expression running around in a hotel naked in Argentina is an example of magical realism, a technique that‘s common in Argentinean literature and journalism. The translation here is they were running around topless. It is simply that. The same press account said that Jenna, the blonde one, was so beautiful that she exploded into flames of fire. Now, granted they were drinking a lot, so they were highly flammable perhaps, but this is hyperbole.
OLBERMANN: The embassy, the U.S. embassy has denied that anybody asked the twins to leave Argentina, but given that Barbara Bush has already been spotted back in the U.S., does that mean someone pulled the rug out from under the party? I mean, if not the Secret Service, then maybe their dad. Or is he blaming their behavior on al Qaeda in Iraq, or what?
ROCCA: Well, no, it‘s true that Barbara, the brunette, has already been extradited. So once Jenna comes home the pullout from Argentina will be complete. The president is blaming, actually, Argentina‘s Democracy, because the former Peron regime, of course, was much more red-state friendly. They would have embraced the Bush twins and not let them go home, actually. You know, I would say that-let me also clarify that this sighting you‘re talking about on Galker, it did say, and I have it right here, that Barbara Bush was sucking down oysters and making out with some guy. This is actually in reference to former first lady Barbara Bush. Right, and we should remember that oysters, of course, are an aphrodisiac, especially after a couple of vodka stingers.
OLBERMANN: I don‘t have anything to say after that. No, in touch with Argentina, do we get the Falklands. Is there any kind of trade here?
ROCCA: Perhaps that would be great, I love that. That‘s great.
Argentina has great food. We should all make a trip down there.
OLBERMANN: One more on this thing here. Is the solution for the White House in dealing with the P.R. fallout from the first daughters‘ antics, keep them in Crawford until January of 2009?
ROCCA: Well, I have one recommendation, a one word recommendation, Broadway. As you said, I have met the Bush twins. They are both actually very, very nice. The blonde one, Jenna, is bubbly. She has an easy laugh. The brunette, Barbara, is a little bit more serious, a little bit brooding, I would say. And so it occurred to me that they would be great in a Broadway production of Wicked, the two of them together.
Jenna as the blond, sort of the good witch Glinda (ph), and Barbara as the brooding Elphaba (ph), who becomes the Wicked Witch of the West, but of course is not all bad. Because they have very, very complicated lives. And it‘s a very popular musical, so it would run forever, and it would keep them out of trouble, except on Monday‘s when the theater‘s dark and then they could go ballistic, go nuts.
OLBERMANN: There is a tradeoff for the matinees on the weekends.
I ask you: If David Shuster suggesting that Hillary's campaign is pimping out Chelsea is so offensive that he should be suspended, how can this report by Olbermann not have met with similar disdain from the top brass at MSNBC and NBC?
Before you answer, this was NBC News President Steve Capus's official statement concerning the Shuster/Chelsea matter:
On Thursday's "Tucker" on MSNBC, David Shuster, who was serving as guest-host of the program, made a comment about Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton campaign that was irresponsible and inappropriate. Shuster, who apologized this morning on MSNBC and will again this evening, has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts, other than to make his apology. He has also extended an apology to the Clinton family. NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks.
Consider that what was supposedly "irresponsible and inappropriate" of Shuster was "insulting" a family member of the former president.
Well, shouldn't it be just as irresponsible and inappropriate to insult a family member of the current president?
Or, is that okay if the current president is a Republican?
Audio file also available here (2:27 | 1.12 MB)
—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

















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Not only is it OK to write
February 11, 2008 - 14:32 ET by kgNot only is it OK to write derogatory statements about Republican children,
it is also both required and praised as good journalism.
They only show morals when it concerns a Democrat.
And Liberals think we're
February 11, 2008 - 14:44 ET by Dustin JolleyAnd Liberals think we're the one's who are loud and intolerant? Ha! The only Conservative that I know of who's loud and intolerant is "Rev." Bill Keller the Mormon hater!
Don't forget Huckabee...
February 11, 2008 - 16:20 ET by Six String SpiffThat guy is a national embarrassment waiting to happen.
Honestly, this doesn't seem
February 11, 2008 - 14:44 ET by balboaHonestly, this doesn't seem offensive in the least.
Oh please balboa - I'm sure you'd love it the media spread
February 11, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Dee Bunkunsubstantiated rumors of your daughter or sister running around naked in hotel rooms.
Olberman is a pig. I remember when this happend. Thanks for posting this Noel.
Of course I wouldn't, but
February 11, 2008 - 15:27 ET by balboaOf course I wouldn't, but this doesn't seem like something horrible. (Neither does Shuster's comment, btw).
How about this, Bal: Which
February 11, 2008 - 15:52 ET by CortillaenHow about this, Bal: Which of the two is worse? Is an offhanded comment like Shuster's really as bad as devoting an entire segment to discussing how accurate paparazzi tales (Note that on neither side was the possibility of the tales being completely false ever entertained, even though there is no evidence to support them) of the Bush girls are?
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balboa - I was going to say the same thing as Cortillaen
February 11, 2008 - 15:58 ET by Dee BunkBoth are unprofessional and Olbermans is certainly more offensive to the girls who were not working as adults on a campaign. Shuster's comment was a slam against Hillary, not Chelsea. Olberman's rant is mocking the girls and trying to ruin their reputations.
I guess I just take Olbie's
February 11, 2008 - 16:02 ET by balboaI guess I just take Olbie's bit for what it was: gossip about what may or might not have happened.
Gossip about Chelsea was off limits when Clinton was President
February 11, 2008 - 16:18 ET by Dee BunkGossip about Chelsea was off limits when Clinton was President
Liberal non-debate tactic
February 11, 2008 - 16:19 ET by CortillaenLiberal non-debate tactic 2.8: Avoid the question by making an almost-relevant comment instead of answering.
Here, I'll ask again: Which was worse, the single, offhanded comment about possible political exploitation or the entire segment devoted to discussing unfounded accusations as though they were truth.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
Neither. Shuster's was an
February 11, 2008 - 16:22 ET by balboaNeither. Shuster's was an unfortunate word choice perhaps, and Olbie's was just gossip junk.
I know you were shooting
February 11, 2008 - 19:44 ET by tracheostomyI know you were shooting for a "neither nor" explanation Bal, but your comment pretty much devalued Olbermann's entire segment, maybe even his whole show. Whereas you classified Shuster has making one isolated and "unfortunate" word choice.
Think about it. You tipped the scales hard. This is Olby's hobby we're talking here, but you just don't want to agree with it outright.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
trach
February 11, 2008 - 20:31 ET by balboaReading the transcript, the whole thing sounds pretty tongue-in-cheek, and details were based on reports from other sources. I don't see this as poorly handled by Olberman. Silly, yeah, but not offensive given the news out of Argentina about that weekend.
Okay Bal. . .
February 11, 2008 - 21:30 ET by tracheostomySo what's yer point?
Seriously. No matter how you label it, "silly," "tongue-in-cheek*" or whatever, Olby's cranking it out. All the time.
-PJ
*Is this code for, "Chill out, it's just a joke"???
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Of course...
February 11, 2008 - 16:15 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltanother example that Libs are primarily classless. He doesn't see why either is offensive.
Color me surprised.
Or I could be another
February 11, 2008 - 16:23 ET by balboaOr I could be another example of classic conservatism, be offended by everything because a liberal said it and got away with it.
Well balboa - it's better than being offended by something
February 11, 2008 - 19:32 ET by Dee Bunkpeople didn't say. Like the phony liberals who claim that Bush called them unpatriotic for not supporting the war when he never said anything close to that. In fact he said the opposite and yet they and the media repeated stuff like that over and over until enough people thought that he did actually say it and other things he never said.
Liberals are offended by the fact that anyone has the nerve to be Republican. That is all it takes for them.
outrage over “phony soldiers”
February 11, 2008 - 22:59 ET by needle"Well balboa - it's better than being offended by something people didn't say."
For another example, the purple outrage of practically every Democrat Senator about the things that Rush Limbaugh said concerning our “phony soldiers” that had to be completely distorted and corrupted in order to justify their over-the-top ranting letter demanding that Clear Channel publicly repudiate what Rush had said. Obama and Clinton signed this disgraceful letter.
Or, Balboa, are we now to understand this was just a little joke by our fun-loving, but otherwise ever-thoughtful and occasionally-responsible, Democrat Senators?
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
DEE BUNK...
February 11, 2008 - 19:02 ET by danybhoyI understand why you are upset with the MSM, & to some extent, so am I. But look at the way the MSM conducts itself as a victory for Bush & Rush. Yep, both of em.
The total hatred of Bush has exposed once & for all the massve bias of the MSM. This is a big victory for Bush & the right in general.
Now, why Rush? When I was young, dumb, & stupid, or at least I was looking for my political legs, I would listen to Rush at least 15 years ago bitching about what he described the "dominant media culture", & about thier bias. The media were all lefties, & I used to listen to this & say to myself...WTF. Now, it is clear that El-Rushbo was spot years ago, I was too young to know any better then, I do now.
BTW, Rush's fill in host, Jason Lewis is in a rich vein of form today/right now. He's just crushed some guy over "global warming" & socialism, keep in mind, the high temp today was about 7* above zero & the lows have been -10* to -25*. He's been "bitter" today, to say the least.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
I have to say it worked with me danybhoy
February 11, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Dee BunkI had never really listened to Rush and wrote him off as an extremist like I was told by the MSM. I listened to him by accident after Sept 11 when I was just trying to find news. I found out that that much of what Rush says that they described as hateful was really more tongue and cheek humor
Rush had definitely been right about them because I disliked him without ever having listened to his show and I was a conservative! Now I see him in a completely differently as I do anyone who the media demonize. Even Ann Coulter isn't as bad as they make her out. She's definitely no worse than Michael Moore or Al Franken or many other liberal comedians that the media idolize.
COULTER...
February 11, 2008 - 19:41 ET by danybhoyMuch of what Rush does is satire, he not a fake, but there is plenty of showmanship there as well, most of it is tongue & cheek.
Coulter is as sharp as a razor, she is very good at making points & debating in a civil manner. But she is not shy about gooning it up when she wants to or needs to. You are right, she's no worse then Moore or the moron who wants to be my next senator, Al.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
danybhoy -you poor thing - I thought having Durbin and Obama
February 11, 2008 - 19:53 ET by Dee Bunkwas bad - I would be so disgusted if Al Franken became my Senator.
Okay, if this is a
February 12, 2008 - 15:43 ET by Cape Conservativerace for worst of the bunch, I'll throw in JFK and TK!!! The Liberal Lion and the Vietnam War Hero! Top that combo!
OK, guys, it's driving me
February 11, 2008 - 21:59 ET by motherbeltOK, guys, it's driving me nuts....it's not "tongue&cheek....it's tongue-IN-cheek.
Whatsamatter, motherbelt
February 11, 2008 - 23:24 ET by RJ...can't give a joke? :^)
Nah....my kids always
February 11, 2008 - 23:31 ET by motherbeltNah....my kids always called me the "grammar police".....LOL
That drives my crazy, as does the phrase "Spitting image"
So how come you didn't catch my "mistake", mb?
February 11, 2008 - 23:51 ET by RJHumpf...not a very dedicated grammar cop, if you tell me. :^)
RJ & MB -RJ's joke was a grammar thing
February 12, 2008 - 09:40 ET by Dee Bunkbut there's nothing grammatically incorrect with tongue and cheek. It's a saying. Tongue-in-cheek may be the original saying but tongue and cheek doesn't change the meaning or insult grammar. In fact, tongue and cheek is more accurate. For your tongue to be in your cheek there would have to be a hole in your cheek.
Tongue and cheek more accurately describes the tongue touching the cheek. Now that I've cleared up that important point, I also like tongue and cheek because it's easier to type. Too bad who ever thought up that phrase wasn't as smart as me - errr as smart as I - errr what ever! ; )
The world according to Dee. I'm always right so don't mess with me! : )
NIce tongue in cheek explanation, Dee
February 12, 2008 - 09:59 ET by RJAs for me, I'll go with my own whimisical exaggeration that "tongue and cheek" is the result of (as misstated adages often are) mishearing what was said. So "tongue in cheek" became "tongue 'n cheek" which then became "tongue and cheek."
And that's the world according to RJ :^)
Well yeah RJ - but I don't come out as good with that theory.
February 12, 2008 - 10:11 ET by Dee BunkBut seriously - it was misheard because it's makes just as much sense, if not more, with "and" and there is nothing grammatically incorrect about it.
"but seriously?"
February 12, 2008 - 10:22 ET by RJIn the midst of a perfectly good mocking conversation? That's awfully cheeky of you.
:^)
RJ - If it wasn't cheeky it wouldn't be me. Part of the fun is
February 12, 2008 - 10:48 ET by Dee Bunkending with the ultimate authority. I didn't just make a big deal out of nothing for nothing! : ) It was fun. Thanks for humoring me.
How to contact
February 11, 2008 - 14:53 ET by ricklailI would like to find out how to contact Jeffery Zucker the head of NBC Universal. I would like to know why Olberman has gotten away with so much.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
GOP needs equal pimp time
February 11, 2008 - 14:54 ET by Lame CherryAs this political whoring is only in name only, like Hillary saying she will adopt a kid for votes but only gets Buddy the dog and kills him later..........
I will be all for pimping the Bush twins..........while the soon to be married one has not much appeal in her blondishness I could listen and vote repeatedly for the brunette. She is high octane hot.
All of this nonsense about pimping being a bad thing is ridiculous. John Kennedy used a willing Jackie nonstop and America loved it.
The Nixon girls were one of the biggest bright spots during his fine administration in Julie's wedding in the White House.
Jimmy tried to use that flea bit looking Amy, but it didn't work as people do not like looking at children who do not bathe.
Even Ma Bush, was put out there in the Silver Fox mode and I loved her. She was our national Gram. I will never forget her at the RNC convention when we were raising hell during her speech and she just gave us "that look" and lowered her hands and the entire center went quiet.
Jim Lerher about fell out of seat astonished she had that kind of control over a boisterous crowd.
I love that old gal yet. She is cool and that makes her hot.
So pimping isn't a bad thing. Hillary just doesn't like being caught doing it as it is in bad taste..........she just thinks all women are bimbos like all liberal males think women are whores.
But for me I would love to see the Bush twins out and about. I like them tons and they sure beat what John McCain is bringing to the table in his anemic looking barbie doll wife.
Oh wow here is a thought..............award Barbara jr. twin Bush the Newsbuster Babe award. Put her picture up like I suggested in place of Hillary or Maddy or Olberman. It would be much appreciated.
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Looks matter
February 11, 2008 - 14:55 ET by ammo johnConservative women have always been more attractive and sexy (just look at Pelosi, Code Stink, Bab Boxer and Feinstein, HILLARY!). Therefore, libs have to make fun of Republicans to hide their own party's beastly looks.
They're just
February 11, 2008 - 15:22 ET by mattmThey're just jealous.
Scroll down a bit.
mattm... Nothing like the
February 11, 2008 - 15:26 ET by bigtimermattm...
Nothing like the green-eyed monster...excellent link.
Pictures do say a thousand words.
Have you noticed? Susan
February 11, 2008 - 18:23 ET by motherbeltHave you noticed? Susan Estrich is now trying to look like Ann Coulter. The last time I saw her on Fox, she actually had makeup on, her hair looked washed and styled, and she even had on a black, sleeveless dress.
Obvious, but still, an improvement.
Greta van Susteren also fixed herself up quite a bit when she went to work for Fox (They must have told her raise your game, honey, we don't go for the unkempt feminazi look here). She got her hair highlighted and styled a lot softer, wore makeup, and changed from those Hillary-lapelled blazers she always used to wear, to softer jackets, softer colored blouses and sweaters underneath, started adding a necklace and earrings....
Nip & Tuck!!!
February 11, 2008 - 18:34 ET by SyriusMB,
You did over look the fact Greta had some "work" done.
I'm enjoying this thread as you lust over the hotties of the Radical Right! You go, girl! Hey guys, pass me the popcorn!
I will disagree on Ma Bush- she ALWAYS reminded me of the front of Quaker Oatmeal sans hat. Not good looking at all!
Syrius
I see you're still stalking
February 11, 2008 - 22:02 ET by motherbeltI see you're still stalking me.....
I would not doubt
February 11, 2008 - 17:12 ET by red_dragon311I would not doubt that in the least, Baby Clinton is off limits because she is ugly as sin......she is the "last resort" if YOUR dunk enough.
the bush hotties....well nuff said
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
Nice.
February 11, 2008 - 17:21 ET by balboaNice.
hey whats wrong it was just
February 11, 2008 - 23:21 ET by red_dragon311hey whats wrong it was just tongue-in-cheek (lol mother)
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
I agree with bal.. take your
February 11, 2008 - 18:24 ET by motherbeltI agree with bal.. take your own advice.
POWERS...
February 12, 2008 - 08:21 ET by danybhoyI will say that Kirsten Powers is hot, & she is a Dem. But then again, she is on FoxNews, most women on FNC are hot.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
This is rich...you keep
February 11, 2008 - 15:08 ET by bigtimerThis is rich...you keep finding these little gems...keep up the great work.
Hypocrisy at it's best.
Btw...Rocca had better have a day job, he isn't funny in the least, never has been...now if we could just get rid of Olbermann, we have another example of his leftist hypocritical rants, just how many more do they need? Him in the unemployment line... that would make my day.
Mrs Barbara Bush not exempt either!
February 11, 2008 - 15:46 ET by GrammyWhen I first read the transcript I missed this aspect of it:
Rocca: "....You know, I would say that-let me also clarify that this sighting you‘re talking about on Galker, it did say, and I have it right here, that Barbara Bush was sucking down oysters and making out with some guy. This is actually in reference to former first lady Barbara Bush. Right, and we should remember that oysters, of course, are an aphrodisiac, especially after a couple of vodka stingers."
These two not only chortled and chuckled about the Bush twins in a crude salacious way but went so far as to do the same about a former FLOTUS and the mother of a sitting President. I don't know why these creeps are still capable of shocking me but they are.
Grammie
and the statement
February 12, 2008 - 15:58 ET by Cape Conservativewas also intended to reflect on the former president as well.
Trash talk, nothing but trash! Barbara Bush is one classy lady and I defy anyone, yes even KO!, to say otherwise. Her conduct as First Lady, and her husband's as President, were followed by the poorest examples anyone could have ever imagined! When I requested presidential birthday greetings from them soon after they had left Washington, both were gracious enough to send cards to my elderly parents. If the sitting president had signed the cards, they would have immediately been thrown in the trash!
I can't think of anything more useless
February 11, 2008 - 15:57 ET by IamTinmanthan listening to what passes for conversation between Olbermann and some creature named Mo Rocca! The best that could be said of Rocca was that he was in some kiddie shows, and wrote for "the Daily Show" which is at about the same intellectual level.
As for Keith, no class plus no talent equals no audience.
and the
February 11, 2008 - 16:07 ET by Cape Conservativebeat goes on............R's = OKAY to denigrate D's = NO NO NO
'Twas ever thus, 'twill ever be"
BTW, I have to reiterate my
February 11, 2008 - 16:14 ET by balboaBTW, I have to reiterate my opinion that Barbara is the hotter of the two.
If this ain't pimping
February 11, 2008 - 16:49 ET by ricklailIf this ain't pimping then what is?
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
ricklail, up to date photo.
February 12, 2008 - 00:08 ET by upcountrywaterpimpee
iranian uranium; iranian ICBM's iranian satellites..
4 (unthinkable) H-bombs, NOW THAT'S SOME CHANGE
Keep the change Bob. h/t Sam Peckinpah
The lines of propriety and
February 11, 2008 - 23:55 ET by JerThe lines of propriety and good taste become blurred awfully fast when the "entertainment hat" and the "news and commentary hat" are so quickly rotated on the same head.
Olbermann's remarks may be tongue-in-cheek, but they are inappropriate for the type of news program he hosts and is promoted by MSNBC.
If he wants to be regarded as the contemporary Edward R. Murrow--the mantle which some have already bestowed upon him--he better change his schtick fast.
Finally, I found myself in rare agreement with Bernie Goldberg on O'Reilly tonight when he pointed out the unmitigated outrage that MSNBC would grant the prestigious role of a debate moderator to someone who engages in partisan nonsense like this--[even though KO did ask some pretty tough questions of the Dems].
Jer
Jer,
February 12, 2008 - 00:45 ET by R D Helm..even though KO did ask some pretty tough questions of the Dems
LOL-That is just because KO is getting old and wants to get into heaven now.
And you are correct about the debate, as I was a little surprised at some of his questions, too.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
KO needs to decide
February 12, 2008 - 01:00 ET by JerKO needs to decide which road he wants to travel...serious news analysis (mixed with occasional humor) from a [disclosed] liberal perspective; or entertaining (to liberals), but highly partisan pit bullying.
While he's contemplating, he has no business hosting debates.
Jer
Jer... The only thing he
February 12, 2008 - 01:06 ET by bigtimerJer...
The only thing he is qualified to host is the mental ward nearest to him.
JMHO
Jer,
February 12, 2008 - 01:26 ET by R D HelmActually, KO needs to go back to doing sports exclusively. I actually liked the guy back then, as he was pretty good at it.
But, as you say, if he intends to do political commentary, he needs to choose between either the serious or the comical.
I think many of his most outrageous comments are meant to attract attention. That may fly with the brain dead types out there, but, if he wants to be taken seriously to any real degree, he needs to straighten up.
If he would spend some time observing how Kirsten Powers, Bob Beckel and others like them operate, he might just learn a few things. Liberal though they are, most of us on the conservative side actually respect them. When they come on, I don't find myself reaching for the remote.
When Colmes pops up, I'm already three channels away. LOL.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Agreed, R D...
February 12, 2008 - 01:42 ET by JerI think many of his most outrageous comments are meant to attract attention.
Bingo, R D...mark this time and date because I find myself in agreement not only with that statement, but with every other word of your post. [LOL]
I think the gushing reviews from a big chunk of the left blogosphere went straight to KO's head. Now, he seems to have developed a constant and insatiable need for acclaim.
Jer
Jer,
February 12, 2008 - 02:07 ET by R D HelmLOL-Ooh, I must be slippin'.
Old age, ya know?
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
R D...
February 12, 2008 - 02:22 ET by JerOld age, ya know?
Yep...and I'm becoming more familiar with it every d*mn day!
Jer
Jer,
February 12, 2008 - 02:50 ET by R D HelmSucks, don't it?
You know, I was sitting in the den on Sunday reading a magazine article (it was the March issue of Car & Driver's write-up on the new Caddy CTS-V) and suddenly, I looked up and noticed that the TV was on the dreaded Channel 23 (Cobb County government). I looked around for the remote, but it was way over by the TV, a mere eight feet away.
I was too sorry to get up and retrieve it. I sat there for a good half hour watching that mind-numbing drivel.
Scary, that is.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
R D...
February 12, 2008 - 03:00 ET by JerThat's exactly why my first order business before settling into the sofa to watch TV is to ensure that every remote which I might conceivably need is lined up on the coffee table no more than an arm's length away.
Jer
Topless in Argentina is the norm
February 12, 2008 - 00:39 ET by"The translation here is they were running around topless. It is simply that."
Topless in Argentina is the norm if you're young and fit.
you guys are wrong, but...
February 12, 2008 - 10:54 ET by chuckoThis article was a wasted, whiny attempt by NB to incriminate Keith into the Shuster controversy. What he did at the end of his show, which he nearly always does, is bring on a comedian - in this case Mo Rocca - to fill the remaining time on Countdown with some snarky comedy that ties pop culture with politics or celebrities. It doesn't really work, from what I've seen. But seriously, there's nothing here that's really bad, unless you want to take what Rocca said about Barbara Bush seriously - but like I said, it's not to be taken seriously. (He also complimented the Bush twins)
You'd have a better chance of getting Olbermann in trouble for saying Bush "pimped" out General Petraeus last year. But that probably won't happen, as there's apparently a double standard for punishing broadcasters who use that word (pimp): you get in trouble for using it to describe a famous female, but not if you use it against a famous male. Or maybe that's just MSNBC that has the double standard. You tell me.
Media Matters Targets MSNBC; Clinton Cheerleader/Watchdog
February 12, 2008 - 12:49 ET by bacaloveMedia Matters and Clinton suppporters are attacking MSNBC for any comments made about the Clintons. Other comments MSNBC make about other people are not targeted by Media Matters and so go unnoticed. Media Matters is a watchdog and cheerleading site for the Clintons. MSNBC is not afraid of the Clintons and mostly tell it like it is. The pimp remark was not done in good taste, however, Shuster did not mean it in the context it is trying to be portrayed. Media Matters has for weeks not targed MSNBC and publish their email address on their website and ask viewers to write/call and complain about comments they make agains the Clintons, however, not other people they make remarks against!
bacalove
February 12, 2008 - 14:28 ET by Noel Sheppardbl,
That's because Media Matters is a Clinton front! ns
Of course, remember
February 12, 2008 - 16:00 ET by Cape ConservativeHillary bragging on how she "started" MM!