I have a new hypothesis I would like to test. If your voting for Romney, then you believe Barack is the easier candidate to beat. Conversely, if you are voting for McCain, you think Clinton would be the easier Demo. to beat.
87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Iowa
63% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in New Hampshire
61% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Michigan
87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Nevada
67% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in South Carolina
64% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Florida
An average 71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the Presidential Nominee
I'm telling you, Renaldus Magnus himself was in this race, he wouldn't make your cut.
Mitt Romney isn't perfect. He's had some election year conversions, but so did Ronald Reagan. The man has principals. He's the only one running that doesn't have scandal after scandal dragging behind him.
If Romney isn't good enough for, then you will never ever be able to vote again!
We got a clean cut all American man. He's well spoken. He has a sharp mind. He is a business genius, as described on Neil Cavuto's show.
He knows we gotta rebuild the military, as well as keep the wheels rolling on the economy. Wanna bet he will not take the terror war seriously? I would think he would be very aggressive
Please tell me why you are so down on the guy. Is it because he is a Mormon?
If the focus is on policy and not personality Obama should be easier to beat since (from what I can tell) he is more to the Left than HRC.
If however, the focus is on personality, HRC will be easier to beat. Watching and listening to her will be like to listening to fingernails on a blackboard. Obama on the other hand appears to be a reasonably nice guy who may actually listen to both sides of an issue and not always look down his nose at you.
She's a stationary target. Most people have already made their mind up about her, and her percentages aren't likely to change much. She's still entrenched in the minority, with no hope of getting any more votes than she has now. Her only hope is that the majority against her doesn't show up in full strength, meaning that a lot of conservatives will stay home rather than vote for McCain, for example. As it is, she's gotten all the votes she's going to get.
Obama is another story. He doesn't show a fixed limit yet on how many votes he could get. Independents could move to him in a way that they would never move for Hillary.
What's that old 40-40-20 rule? No matter what happens, 40% will vote Republican, 40% will vote Democrat, and the election is really won among that undecided 20%. Hillary can't get any undecideds. Unless someone makes a good case against him, Obama could get a lot of them. Then again, I think Obama has no substance, and a good campaign against him will collapse his support.
It makes absolutely no difference who you, I or anyone else thinks might be a candidate that can more easily win the general. Think of it this way. Either Romney or McCain CAN beat either Clinton or Obama. It's their job, with our help, to do so. Therefore, which one (Romney or McCain) offers a set of beliefs and a record of governing and managing that is best for the country? That's where you vote should go. Period.
Nattional polling (shown on Fox two nights ago) shows only McCain beats Obama or Clinton, and Romney handily loses to either, but that's NOW. When the two party nominees are set in March/April, they'll have 6 months to pound each other and things can absolutely change, so the polls showing Romney has no shot against Obama or Clinton are pure crap because polls on that topic at this time are probably at a 20-30% margin of error. Remember how high Rudy was in the polls in November? And where is he now?
What needs to happen is for Huckabee to drop out so his voters can move on. I believe most go to Romney, except for those whose decision-making issue is Romney being Mormon, and if that's enough for some people to not vote for, then that's very strong for them and they won't vote for him regardless of other issues, which is their prerogative. But many Huckabee voters will vote Romney. I don't know how bad of a defeat it's going to take for Huckabee to step aside though. If he keeps hanging around regardless of his primary finishes, he's really helping McCain, in my opinion.
I hope Romney does not give up, I hope he has the fortitude and money to stay in until Huck leaves...Huck can't have that much money left can he...unless McCain is helping him out...how much money does McCain have I wonder and who from.
And if Huck runs out of money, he still doesn't have to get out of the race. He simply wouldn't be able to pay for things, yet his name would still be on the ballot, and by now everyone knows his name so he'd still draw votes. That's why I believe he'll stay in until the end, or after the mess of McCain being the nominee is beyond reversal. Perhaps Huck would like a VP slot in a McCain admin.
I'm hoping Huck will get out after Tuesday, no matter what he says...I can hope anyway...I had hoped he wouldn't have the $$$ to make it through March 4th I think it is.
...anyway...of course he is angling for VP or some-such job...quite sure he has been guaranteed whatever it is ...lol.
Even if his name is still on the ballots and he withdraws there wouldn't be all that many that would still vote for him you wouldn't think, I think the majority of the Huck supporters would go to Romney.
Well just have to hope and pray plus have a lot of patience....
I agree too, Greg. I am so sick of hearing this one beats that one, etc. I t just makes me want to scream!! I said in another thread, if all this is so true, why don't they just do a poll, announce the winner, and we can just forego the election in November. I mean why bother, they already know who is going to win.
Let's see..McCain looks like a lock for the nomination. And he beats both Clinton and Obama. There you go! President-elect John McCain!! Save us a lot of time.
Jeez...are they too stupid to realize that everything is going to change once there is a nominee from each party? And a month is forever in politics, nevermind 7 or 8! Who knows what might happen???
I didn't realize it was a tag line. I thought it was part of the comment. I was teasing you, because you posted a link to the same video that headed the column.
Sorry. Won't make that mistake again.
It doesn't matter to me what anyone's tag line is. Don't change it on my account....
Why elect McCain just to have the press bash him from day one. That got old with Bush, day in and day out, every day.
Why not elect Hillary and let her really screw things up as the press tries to hide it. I predict that a 'President Hillary' would end up being impeached just like her partner. The corruption of her past is only a starting point. Imagine what would come about with her being president. Entertainment at it's finest. Then the Democrat party would cave.
Many people have the same thinking on letting the Democrat really screw up. The only problem with that is liberals love government programs. If the liberal was in office, yet couldn't get a monstrous program in place, then I'd be for it if I knew that would be the case, BUT, even if the liberal screws things up, if he or she gets the gargantuan government programs in place, those NEVER go away.
On programs, liberals have to be successful ONCE. Conservatives have to be successful stopping it every OTHER time. Based on that, liberalism is a much easier mindset to be in. Tax everyone and slam in a program. That's simple, no thinking necessary. Conservatism takes thought.
Great statement, GregE. I have been trying to think why it was that I never heard anything of substance from the left. These are exactly the right words. Thank you.
I know that very well, and was against it. Democrats were against it too, because they wanted it bigger. They also want this nonsense stimulus package to be expanded, so here it sits awaiting more debating whether to expand the handouts. They also want the S-CHIP program to be expanded. Etc, etc, etc.
Anyone who thinks this campaign will be a tea party because Clinton and McCain are buddies, is very much mistaken. The very second McCain becomes the Republican candidate, the press will come out with sharpened knives. C'mon! He's such an easy target!
They'll report on how old he is. How unstable his mental condition is. How he's flip-flopped on many issues. Those are what come immediately to mind, you can add others to the list.
My point is, McCain's exactly who the Dems and the press wanted on the "R" side. He'll be so easy to take down. At least 2008 will be the year that puts the stake in McCain's political heart. Buh-bye, John.
The MSM will just use the sound bite's from Rush, Hannity, and any other conservitive to say "Look even THEY don't like him"
The MSM won't use it to crush McCain; they will use it to build him up. They will say those guys don't like McCain because he is not "right-wing" enough for them, because he "reaches across the aisle" etc. McCain will weave that into a big "PLUS" and the MSM will assist him in doing that.
Scout thats been there plan the whole time, divide the Repub vote between Romney and McAlien with the Huckster as the spoiler sucking votes from Romney giving McAlien the majority all the while the press touts Old Man Fiddlesticks as a great leader...blah blah blah. The Hucklespoiler drops out and supports OMF. Romney get defeated in the primaries and OMF becomes the Rep nominee. The press and the Dems wet themselves that there plan has worked and bring all guns to bear on the feable, anger management issue war hero who lost more planes then a salvage yard McAnger. Its so clear that its sad. Bill O said on Wed that McAlien's comeback was impressive and that "the press had nothing to do with it" I about broke my TV over that comment and probably scared my neighbors yelling at the TV. They (press) have been giving this guy non-stop coverage, puffing him as the greatest guy ever and bearly mention the other guy....the morman....flippidly flop governer...etc...Most people believe what they see on TV. Romney has had the cards stacked against him from the start.
"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" R. Reagan
I don't think McCain can beat either one of the dims.
I do think Romney could mop the floor with either one.
With McCain, there is not enough difference between the candidates to make much difference. I think a dim or independent would just go ahead and vote for the one who actually has a (D) after their name. Why settle?
On the other hand, Romney and the dims are 180 degrees out. It would be a bad a$$ debate.
And for the record, I think Ann is dead serious. At least about the voting for her part. And you KNOW the campaign would use this video!
Ann Coulter is a hypocrite. For someone like Ann, who is strongly pro life, to say she will campaign for Hillary over John McCain, who has a strong pro life voting record, just reeks. Now I don't like the fact that he supports embryonic stem cell research, but he is against abortion. If it comes between Hillary and McCain, I will vote for McCain based on his anti abortion voting record. I used to like Ann, but she is becoming a parody of herself.
Better think twice about John McCain. He has recently said he wants Roe v Wade to stay in place because all those poor girls would die in backalley abortions without it. He also said he would not consider abortion when looking for judges.
McCain has a consistent pro-life record; that's more than we can say about the chameleon Mitt. Since when do we take what the Washington Compost as the "no-spin zone" about candidates positions around here? George W. Bush never said he would "consider abortion" when looking for judges either (and he was flat out asked about this during the 2004 debates) Thank God he had more political savvy than that, else we would've all elected Algore for 8 years. And the MSM has crucified him, nonetheless.
Are you kidding me? You think the Washington Post made that up?
In 2000 the San Fransico Chronicle quoted McCain saying "Certainly in the short term, or even in the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v Wade, which would then force x number of women in America to illegal and dangerous operations."
McCain did nothing to deny or challenge the story.
In 2007 he did a total flip-flop and said he wanted Roe v Wade gone.
I've posted a link to a well-known newspaper that ran his direct quote. Please provide a link to show McCain challenged the quote as a lie. I've searched the web and haven't found one yet.
I'm not saying the Compost made that up -- just that they are likely to have put spin on it. Regardless of what he (McCain) may have said about overthrowing Roe v. Wade, his senate voting record has been pro-life, which is infinitely more (given that they have a 100% pro-abortion track record) than we can say about either Hillary or "let-the-'abortus'-die-on-the-table" Barack. As a social conservative, I am diametrically opposed to Hillary or Barack, but it seems folks here want to see the pro-choice dream-team win.
LilyPearl, I usually like Ann Coulter -- her sarcasm is a welcome relief to liberal insanity sometimes. However, I agree with you on this one, and unfortunately her comments are being taken seriously here. And BTW, McCain supported using the "left-over" embryos that would be destroyed (a position many other Republicans in Congress also broke rank with Bush on, including the Senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia) -- he doesn't support unmitigated embryonic stem cell research. Not perfect, but leagues better than ALL the pro-abortion Democratic candidates.
Hey Ann, I'd think twice about that. The Bilderburgs like here to be president...
"...Hillary will be good for America...
we'll be very pleased that she's president." -- Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Portfolio
magazine, October 5, 2007
I compared Juan McAmnestys voting record with Ed Kennedy's, and on just the illegal immigrant bill it's enough to keep him out of office. But there is much more to compare them, along with Barry and PIAPS. We MUST, MUST keep Juan out of the WH. He's not right for America, not right for Conservatives.
Conservatives can handle anything thrown at us in politics, we thrived under Billy Jeff for instance. If it takes, we will wait and get a REAL Conservative in the WH, one that'll quit spending like a drunken Dem and take care of what's in our Constitution.
Until then, we will join the fight. Resist where we have to, and push when we can. Maybe this next crop of conservatives will have a spine and not worry about what Libs think or what the MSM thinks.
Today is the 49th anniversary of the death of Charles Harden "Buddy" Holly. Buddy along with J.P. " The Big Bopper" Richardson and Richie "La Bamba" Vallens died when their plane crashed near Clearlake, Iowa in the early morning hours of Feb. 2, 1959. If I remember correctly Richie Vallens was only 16 years old with a very promising career ahead of him. As you go about today, whistle a Buddy Holly tune in tribute.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
I didn't know that. I guess we have thought of Richie as more of a singer than a guitarist. I guess to me Dick Dale is the greatest because I went to so many beach movies in my teens.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Hey drill, I ain't gettin your tribute to Ritchie Valens for SleepWalk.
Yea, that was the signature song for the movie about Ritchie Valens, but it had zero to do with his performances, other than he played it like so many others. That song was written and performed by Santo & Johnny, and that's where all credit should go.
You're right though about it being an all time great instrumental.
Did he play that in the movie? I only remember the Santo and Johnny version...I didn't know Richie Valens had one too. Been a loooong time since I've seen the movie too, so I didn't remember it.
Do you know which one of them did the original and whose was the cover version? Not that it matters....great song by anyone.
Many people forget the two guys who gave up their seats on the plane to the Big Bopper and Richie Valens. One was named Waylon Jennings, the other was Holly's guitar player Tommy Allsup, who would later go on to play with and produce Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys.
Tommy in fact performed in Clear Lake at the Surf Ballroom last night, some 49 years after he lost a coin toss to Valens for a seat on the plane:
I think ANN is trying to scare the living crap out of
the base (who don't appear to be outwardly involved in this primary process),
Romney (who needs to start fighting damn harder because he is our last best candidate that even remotely resembles a conservative),
McCain (who needs to 1. think before he chooses people to help with his campaign who don't have our nation's sovereignty at the forefront of homeland and economic security 2. stop taking for granted the conservative wing of the republican party because many will stay home on election day and GIVE the presidency to the dems. His hero POW status only goes so far. I'm sorry ...)
Anyhow, if you listen carefully at the beginning of the video clip Ann does admit, "Okay, that part isn't true ..." I assume in regards to her campaining for Hillary comment.
Ann is infuriated, as I am, that supposed conservative Republicans can't seem to see the forest thru the trees. A lot of these unthinking folks are either blind to McCain's lying and deceiving or they feel that he should get the nod simple because of his former POW status.
Understand people, conservatives give more credence to those who speak the truth, than to those who manipulate soley for their own personal agenda, even if it comes from a liberal. That is exactly what McCain has been doing and will continue to do up to the day of his inaguration.
There are some differences between McCain and his Democratic counterparts, but in all reality, these differences are not enough to trump his dishonesty. These character flaws of his have been enough to fracture the Republican part as never before.
Mitt Romney has been labeled a flip-flopper because of changes in ideology over the years, but these conversions were made after long and carefull consideration, not just whim adjustments to fit whatever it takes to jibe the folks into thinking they are on our side, such as McCain is doing.
The Democrats are smart enough to see how McCain's duplicity is effecting our party, and of course they will attack that weakness by pushing hard, via the MSM, to make sure he is our nominee, knowing full well that vast amounts of Republicans will sit home or actually vote for one of theirs before they go against their own core beliefs and vote for McCain.
If the Democrats were smart, they would make sure that Obama is their candidate, because both McCain and Clinton fall into the loath-some category and disgruntled Republicans will cross over to vote for him, but will never do so for her.
Look Coulter, Miss Ann, If McCain is such a Bad Conservative, lets elect him President and then he will be OUT of the SENATE...basically we can gain a Senate Seat for the Republicans, and take McCain out of Action as a legislator.
McCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold, he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
McCain says he will Cut Taxes and Cut Fed. Spending, He's Pro Military and Anti terrorist, He's Pro Life, and we all Like these in a Conservative. He says these things in his Campaign Speeches.
We don't like his Immigration stance.....well......we didn't like Pres. Bush's support of the Amenesty Bill, yet we (the People) stopped the Amnesty bill from even getting out of Congress. The State Govts. are now passing State immigration laws to pre-empt the Feds, and we have laws on the books that can be enforced on Immigration. Felons are supposed to be deported, enforce it. States hand out drivers licenses, don't give 'em to Illegals. Illegals left Oklahoma in droves after the State passed new laws targeted at illegal immigrants.
So I don't see McCain as an "Amnesty" threat anymore. He's been disarmed.
I don't like McCain's ANWR drilling stance, NOR do I like his Pro CO 2 is a pollutant Global warming stance. But ANY item to address this comes out of the Congress/Senate via Legislation. So I think shoving McCain into the Presidency allows him to sign tax Cuts, decrease Government Spending, and pursue the victory in Iraq.
But it is Nothing in, Nothing out, if Legislators don't give Amnesty bills to the President to sign.
Bottom line, I can go with McCain on his Partial Conservative Platform, as I think electing a Conservative Congress/Senate is more important since the Democrat Majority controls it right now.
I think Hillary is more of a Dufus than McCain, and I will not vote for a Socialist. I'll vote for a Part Time Conservative before I vote for Obamarama the Liberal B-HO.
Yep, those conservative congress members sure stood up to Bush on spending, not to mention the other liberal policies he pushed.
And people will not vore in Republicans if the Republican President is not a conservative. When a President is out of control, the people vote in the opposite party in to balance the power.
You are right, it would be nice to have him no longer a Senator, but come on, a President is much more powerful than a Senator.
A President is much more Powerful than a Senator ....... Yes, but in different ways. Yes he has a VETO, but YES the Congress/Senate Can override a VETO...a balance of power.
The President is Commander in Chief.........but the President does NOT command the State laws, Drivers license enforcement, State Taxes, etc.... The Presidents reach has some Limits. McCain does have Conservative views that his Presidency can address within the Bureaucracy, but Introducing bills in Congress is not one of them, he signs, he vetoes, but he doesn't compose and debate on the floor of Congress.
Yes, the President is more powerful, he appoints Cabinet posts, but Congress is Equal in many ways ... as the Congress and the President have to co-operate to accomplish War/Peace/Taxes/Court nominees. The Pres isn't a Czar or a Dictator.
One congressman != congress. President lobbies congress to write certain bills, this is civics 101. McCain will have more power than he did as a Senator, this is not even debatable. Fact is I do not want to promote McCain, I want him fired!
If McCain is such a Bad Conservative, lets elect him President and then he will be OUT of the SENATE...basically we can gain a Senate Seat for the Republicans, and take McCain out of Action as a legislator.
McCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold, he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
I really tend to agree with you on this. Unlike many conservatives who vow NOT to vote if it's McCain, or worse yet to vote Hillary, I WILL vote for him.
I believe this election, on the republican side at least, is going to come down to WHO is the Veep running-mate. We saw the start of this with GWBush in 2000. That whole gravitas crap ... and then he selected Dick "later known as Darth" Cheney. EVERYONE knows Cheney has been very active in these two administrations.
I believe gone are the days of the silentfigure-head Veep. I think we saw the last of that with Al Gore. Hell, I can't even recall Carter's Veep ...
Whoever Hillary would choose (and Obsama too ... especially him) would NEVER be given any sort of active participation in her administration, other than hunting and gathering donors for her coffers for the next election.
I want to vote for who is best for America. Not, who beats whom. One of the reasons is Clinton and Giuliani “were” shoo-ins 6 months ago, and now?
THAT is what the RNC does not understand about us. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT WHO WINS (or who beats who) ITS ABOUT WHO RUNS THE COUNTRY.
We have someone that will promise us rainbows and unicorns and magically “free” health care. Then we have someone that has so little respect for the office that they have sex in the oval office. Then there is someone willing to sell out this complete nation to being over run by an army of 3rd world people that do not even speak our language, just to get their votes?
Then there is Mitt, and he is way behind in the polls.
Look if those three are my choice, I will vote Libertarian, and no my candidate will not win, but from the look of it neither will America.
I still will vote for Republicans in the general election. But I’m sorry I can not vote for a man that shoots us the finger at every chance. For that, I am to reward him? The only thing that give me worry is SCOTUS, but then, Mc Cain thinks that some are “too conservative” anyway.
Lets face it, he thinks he can win with out us. If he does win it will be with out a large part of our backing. So why would he care what we think or do?
I love the people that tell us well, what if he promised us, XYZ in the Republican platform? Not that he has or ever will. The platform means nothing for the most part. Its just window dressing.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
McCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold,
he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have
a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
Yeah, but there will still be others to cooperate with Kennedy etc., and President McCain would sign what they send him. How is that a plus? Didn't he say he would actually sign his amnesty bill that failed, but don't worry, they won't let it get to him? Are we supposed to be comforted by that?
I don't know why anyone cares about VP. Who was it that said the job of a VP is to go to state funerals? I still remember Bush saying his VP choice would "make your eyes light up." Then cam Cheney, and everyone went "HUH?"
As Thomas Sowell said
McCain's "straight talk express" should be called the “sell-out express” because McCain has
sold out not only with amnesty for illegal aliens but also sold out the
First Amendment.....
And he also said:
Super Tuesday may be the voters’ last chance to bring the so-called “straight talk express” to a screeching halt.
Your post is full of lies and naive nonsense but since I am unable to respond to this your lies will stay unchallenged which is good for McCain and Huckasuck supporters.
Instead of planning for the worst, what can we do to help Romney get elected and avoid this disaster? He's obviously a much better candidate so we need to find out who's voting for his challenger and put a stop to it.
Ann will not vote for Mrs. Rodham Clinton but she sure might put the scare into the RNC to wake up and look where the party might be headed. This gives more media attention to the issue and might wake some of the McCain voters up. They might start doing research for once instead of simply voting name recognition.
I think that the only hope is for Huckabee do drop out and for Mitt pick up his people. He is not going to do that because IMHO, he is blocking for Mc Cain (I guess a VP job). Once Mitt is dead in the water he will drop out. Doing the job of a “foot soldier for Mc Cain”.
The combo of Huck and Mitt beats Mc Cain.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
CNN's Politics.com has McCain telling reporters “From what we see in the polls, there is a very good chance it could be over on Tuesday,” said the Arizona senator, adding: “The sooner we get that done, the sooner I can go to work on uniting the party."
Good luck with that, John.
He sounds pretty sure he can do it:
Despite his complicated history with the party’s base, he said, pragmatic Republicans will back him when faced with the Democratic alternative.
Romney could not pick up Huckabee's people, they are FairTax/Pro-Life/Pro-Gun/ Pro-Family/Pro-Bible mostly southern people. Those people dispise Romney. If Huckabee were to drop out, they would go to Ron Paul or stay home.
Now if Romney were to drop out, Huckabee could pick up a lot of Romney's people with out losing them to Paul or McCain.
But it's going to be hard to convince evangelicals to desert McCain, who has demonstrated a pro life voting record for someone who recently joined the camp.
There aren't any organized "anti-Mormon" groups that I am aware of. Perhaps there are some unorganized individuals, but I would say there are more anti-Yankee or anti-CFR individuals than there are anti-Mormon.
The groups that I named were all well known (and legal) organized political interest groups. I would not know how many people comprise unorganized bigots as a demographic.
Well, let me say, Britcom, that I hope the national demographic isn't what we've seen here.
IMO, Huckabee leads the "unorganized" anti-Mormons. His dislike of Romney appears to be visceral, going well beyond his stated reasons, and his message is understood.
You are exactly right. We have to do everything in our power to help Romney out. I just have to say please to all of the write-in crowd. Do that in the general if you must, but in the primary, anything but a vote for Romney, is a vote for McCain. And a vote for McCain would be, well, unAmerican.
Fox just had Huckabee on. He was whining because Romney supporters have been telling him he needs to throw in the towel. He doesn't like that at all. But he knows he can't win and Romney can. He is just a selfish jerk for not doing the honorable thing. What ever deal McCain made with Huckster, he will break it in a heartbeat anyway.
When is CPAC?
You would think Ann, and other conservatives could stage a coup d'etat, and let the party officials know exactly how we all feel.
Everyone on here needs to remember that those of us who are turning on McCain are planning on doing so if he gets the nod. We are fully prepared to support Romney and do our best to help him right now, and if Romney wins the primaries I will stick by him.
Anything to hurt that sleazeback McPain.
There is a big movement among the right to stage a boycott, but the MSM is snuffing it out. I was talking on here last night about Hannity & Colmes - even as Ann Coulter announced she hated him, that jerk Frank Luntz said Republicans were beginning to accept him and Sean immediately set in bashing Ann for her opinion.
The entire media is censoring conservative movement to make angry voters think that everyone else is on the bandwagon so there's no use in boycotting McCain.
That explains all the polls showing him as the winner, the pundits saying he could beat Hillary, they are making him look inevitable and snuffing out Limbaugh and Coulter.
I too saw that segment on H&C last night and was infuriated to the utmost....you summed the rest up well, you said it all for me...that is exactly what I thought and do think..it was maddening.
How can Sean say one thing to his radio audience and another to his Fox audience? I really think he's in the bag for McCain but knows that radio listeners are tuning him in right after Rush and do not want to hear any McCain defending, so to keep his audience he pretends to agree with Rush.
But on Fox News his true colors come out.
I used to like Sean but over the past couple years he has become a GOP kool aid drinker.
Oh yeah, a lot of the media is giving McCain rave reviews and carrying his water. I missed the show. Wow, it's hard to hear that about Sean. he said on his radio show he was absolutely voting for Mitt Romney.
If Romney can have a great showing on Tuesday, just stay competitive, the polls will change. Look at all of the other, "inevitable" candidates on both sides that have been up or down. McCain himself was out of money and on his way out!
I think Ann was joking about campaigning for Hillary, but she's serious about not endorsing McCain.
Conservatives loved Ann Coulter in the 90s when she wrote High Crimes and Misdemeanors, but now that she's criticising Mr. "I Can Beat Hillary" all the sudden she's hateful.
I'm a fan of hers because she has always kept it real. Her fair-weather fans need not buy her books the next time she criticizes someone they don't like.
I agree on both, the campaigning and the not endorsing, candance.
I think she is one royally PO'd lady.
Just what the heck happened to make McCain "inevitable" all of a sudden? I'm really worried that it's the "Dole" thing...he deserves it...I think a lot of Republicans, not just the party bigwigs, are thinking he deserves it, and for that reason, vote for him. A "Pity Presidency"? It's not some Hollywood "Lifetime Achievement Award" for heaven's sake!
You need little flags like that for Republicans since, as we know from
the recent unpleasantness in Florida, Republicans are unalterably
stupid.
Republicans who vote for McCain are trying to be cute, like the
Democrats were four years ago by voting for the "pragmatic" candidate,
Vietnam vet John Kerry. This will turn out to be precisely as clever a
gambit as nominating Kerry was, the brilliance of which was revealed on
Election Day 2004.
John Keating5 McCain is nothing more than a bitter old man who I believe is very close to going over the edge when he is pitted against losing an argument. I watch this guy with his wild eyes, moronic inappropriate grins, inability to answer any questions about his record and blatent lies about his opponent and really have to question his ability to lead the world to anything other than chaos.
I know it looks hopeless right now, but we cannot, I repeat cannot give up our efforts to try to get republican voters to use their heads for something other than a hat-rack and think about what they are getting with a McCain vote.
Look folks, there is a tremendous amount at stake here. 4 or 8 more years of Bill open-mouth Clinton and Hillary head-nodder Clinton will put this country in the hands of the socialists just long enough such that by the end of their term the majority population of the country will be latino and black, both of which are solid socialist voting blocs, and the republican/conservative party will be lost forever. Of course, on the positive side of this scenario, this majority latino/black voting bloc will represent something very important to conservative republicans - customers.
Huckabee stays in to drain some of the conservtive vote from Romney. All to get a vice presidential spot on the ticket. With McCain's age, he probably figures that's the fastest way to the White House. However, can anyone really see this as a winning ticket when the mainstream media, which is now fawning all over McCain, finally turns on him? I don't.
NB staff...thanks for the video clip here of what Ann said the other night...much appreciated.
As to what Ann expresses...it is also felt by me...the pure anger and disgust of having McCain shoved down our throats by the big-wigs in the party is beyond despicable for me....I am completely outraged with the msm too.
McCain today deciding to sit in Romney's back yard as the msm is liking to use the phrase..to poke a stick in his eye to say "if you can't win your own state you are done...bow out now."...I cannot stand the arrogance of the vindictive mean little leftist man...he is no friend to this country as far as I am concerned...his floor speeches and voting record are proof of that.
(I know, I know, the self-imposed Sheriff of the Senate, the foot-soldier was a POW, I am sick of hearing it, I am sick of him running on it, along with his act of being the self-declared winner of this war single-handily)...
My anger is endless, the GOP has gone to hell in a hand-basket as far as I am concerned.
I am a registered Independent, always have been, but I have associated most of my politics with the GOP...I am past disgusted with this piece of work getting crammed down our throats by the party big-wigs, and what they are doing to Romney hand in hand with the msm makes me ill, I will never forget this all...ever.
And don't forget, bt...he was the ONLY Republican to support the surge...and they ALL criticized him for it!!! <sarc off>
He said he would sign the abominable amnesty bill that he wrote, if he were President; but says not to worry, they won't send it to him!!
He is mean, and he is vindictive. Calling the youngster a "little jerk" was only half-teasing...the nastiness came through anyway. Why are we now supposed to forget the corruption of the Keating five? (Because Hillary has too many shady deals in her past to credibly bring it up?) How about his disgusing joke about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno that newspapers said was "too vicious to print" even when printing his apology for it? Do you think Mitt Romney would get a pass on that from the media? And don't forget what Thad Cochran said about him.....
Every-time I try to cool off just a little I see the same ol' crap on the msm with the love and embrace of McCain...here we go again...
But what really did it this morning was when he says he is going to camp in Romney's back-yard during the Super Bowl and Super Tues. until he realizes he is irrelevant and leaves the race....(I'm paraphrasing but that is the gist of it) he makes me furious with his arrogance.
I still cannot believe this is what we have come down to, never in a million years would I have thought we would end up with McCain...like I posted elsewhere yesterday...I wished Allen would of run instead of quitting...macaca is nothing compared to all the BS that has gone on since....and that is just on the dem side.
Right, bt, he got a little propping up from the media, and now he's Mr. Macho Man... telling other people they're "irrelevant."
I'm telling you, he can't keep it hidden; his nastiness is going to come out...it's starting already. And I think he's going to get ugly, as the MSM keeps inflating his ego.
The other night in the debate, he was smug and snarky even when others were talking. I can't wait, myself; I don't think he can keep his nasty streak hidden much longer.
Here is a link that will give you some way of knowing how angry I was again at the arrogance of this man already, I heard all of this earlier today like I posted above...he really thinks he is Prez already...a legend in his own mind, with a lot of help from his back-stabbin' friends in the msm that have their own agenda down the road for him.
If I don't catch ya here, I will tomorrow or some such with this...I got to get out of here...lol!
Three unexpected developments have given Republicans a shot this year at winning — once thought impossible, given the normal desire of the electorate for a fresh party after eight years, and worries about Iraq and the economy. All can change, but for now they have a real shot.
The first, of course, is the radical turnabout in Iraq. Had we been seeing over 100 dead a month, the loss of Baghdad, and a failure of the surge, McCain would be finished and his Republican rivals would have carved out a third position between Bush and the Democrats that would have been still rejected by the voters.
Second, no one anticipated the surge of Obama, and the Clintons’ overt and clumsy efforts at personal destruction that turned off even liberals — a development that explains why a McCain in theory could be palatable to disaffected Democrats and Independents. No one knows whether Thursday night’s reconciliation will last. But I doubt it, since Obama was figuring his nice guy image gained him ground, while Hillary worried that unleashing Bill and knee-capping her rival lost her percentages. But when it gets down to winning and the race narrows, each will readjust and it will get nasty again. Bill is ungovernable, and growls and gets toothy in periods of quiet and tranquility when he recedes from the news
And third, the unanticipated November implosion of Rudy Giuliani coalesced many moderate Republicans behind one candidate, the once moribund McCain, while base conservatives were never quite energized over either Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or Fred Thompson, and either diluted their support or never embraced a candidate with real passion.
It is understandable to lament the absence of conservative purity, but ahistorical to suggest that any recent Republican president would have met any of the litmus tests now demanded, given the dependency of the middle class on entitlements and its touchy-feely worldview.
Reagan, and Bush I and II all adjusted to that unfortunate reality. A Democrat did not appoint Souter, O’Connor, or Kennedy, nor raise payroll and gas taxes in the 1980s, nor sign amnesty and de facto open-border legislation in 1986, nor, later, increase federal spending well past the rate of inflation, or offer amnesty again in 2007. Tax cuts were great, but without caps on spending they were unfairly slurred as revenue reducers once deficits soared. Recent Republican congressional scandals mirror-imaged some of the Clinton-era roguery.
Reagan’s pragmatism on taxes, amnesty, new federal programs and government expansion, was continued by both Bush I and II. In that regard, McCain seems a continuum, not an abject disconnect. His problem is mostly temperament — when he strayed he was blunt about what he was doing and sometimes gratuitously offended his base in a way that neither Reagan nor the Bushes dared. That is a legitimate concern of tactical aptitude, but not one so much of ideology.
He also never was a conservative idealist that voiced conservative themes on the campaign trail which he could not enact once elected. But in terms of judicial appointments, foreign policy and the war, and federal spending, he is not much different from any of the prior three Republican presidents, and might well prove tougher, given his age and occasional contrarianism. We worry over his immigration stance, but his former mistaken position was Reaganite to the core and reflected the Bush consensus. His new stance of closing the borders first would be a radical departure, and a conservative remedy.
In short, anyone who saw the Democratic debate Thursday night can envision the new future on their horizon: identity politics and self-congratulation over race and gender; tax increases (back to estate tax hikes, income tax rates go up, payroll tax caps lifted, etc); internationalism for the sake of internationalism (defer to the U.N., E.U., apologies for past conduct, contextualizing terrorism), more government (teachers, the poor, the middle class, etc. all need new government programs to add to those we have), and legislating judges (more Ginsburgs and Breyers).
Given all of the above, I don’t think it’s in the interest of conservatives for much longer to worry about McCain’s class ranking at Annapolis or how many planes he was nearly killed in.
This Hanson guys points to the measurement that we are holding McCain to "It is understandable to lament the absence of conservative purity, but ahistorical to suggest that any recent Republican president would have met any of the litmus tests now demanded" . . .
Back off on the Screws a little, "We don't always get what we want, but we get what we Need".
We don't want McCain, but we DON"T NEED Hillary or B-HO.
while base conservatives were never quite energized over either Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or Fred Thompson, and either diluted their support or never embraced a candidate with real passion.
The conservatives really are to hold a lot of the blame for this. Exactly what were they waiting/looking for? And I would add Duncan Hunter into that list ... perhaps THE most conservative one.
What were conservatives supposed to do leading up to this? We watched debates, Giuliani and McCain got all the questions and all the spotlight, Hunter and Tancredo would speak twice in a whole two-hour debate, conservatives had no chance to set them apart. MSM people and (even folks like Hannity) would drool over Giuliani day after day telling us the little guys had no chance.
Then Fred Thompson entered and everybody flocked to him, only to have him drop out after 90 days.
Combine that with how the primaries have been stacked to favor liberal states first, folks in the Bible belt had no chance to vote for anyone they liked.
But there is one other group I blame... moderate Conservatives. Many were so darn lazy they never took the time to research the real conservatives, all they did was listen to the damn media.
It's as if they spent precious months trying to decide what looked good on the smorgasboard and couldn't quite kick it in gear because they thought the main course was Fred Thompson.
Fred did us no favor. Thompson was bland and lifeless, leaving Conservatives with nothing but RINOs.
All that's left is Romney, and the talking heads at the top of the Republican Party seemingly would rather put their money on McCain who, time and again, has bitten them.
That's just my take. I'm not asking for agreement as it's under the bridge for the most part.
Hanson is a military historian and looking at this as falling back to the next defensible position which only works if your fallback position is occupied by your allies.
Juan McCain will be as a lamb lead to slaughter by the MSM just as soon as he is the Republican Nominee. Anyone that is so credulous to believe that he has a chance is demonstrating judgment that should never be trusted. Anyone else supporting Juan McCain just has a taste for roast lamb.
Happy Candlemas, everybody. No not this Candlemass.
Speaking of metallurgy, six years ago today, Paul Baloff passed away. He was once the lead singer of Exodus, one of the best thrash metal bands ever to come out of the Bay Area. Guitarist Kirk Hammett left the band to join Metallica before "Bonded By Blood" came out. Every metalhead in the 80's owned this album.
Congrads to the latest inductees innto the NFL Hall of Fame. Maybe next year, Russ Grimm!
Enjoyed the wing-eating contest article, but I'm a little skeptical about the credentials of some of the participants who brought up the rear.
For example, how can a 290 pound behemoth who claims to have "won a watermelon eating contest followed by a pie eating contest for weekend beer money" and whose motto is "I like to eat!" crap out after a mere 40 wings?
I have friends who'll scarf down that many for appetizers.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, this debating is moot when you look at the guy who once drank Pine-Sol, haha. I was disapppointed to see how few wings those guys at the bottom ate. Eating 40 wings is something I think many of us here could do, right?
I was bummed that Lord of the Wings lost. I think he had won the past two years, and I especially liked that he ate 34 pieces of pizza...
These two make me so ill. They each get interviews every day telling lies about Romney, and the reporters take every word as truth. The whole media establishment has adopted their lines of attack when they interview Romney.
Favorite Romney line during a press conference after biased reporter says "I represent the people, governor"
Romney: "No I represent the people. You represent the media. You're supposed to be unbiased."
And that's why I am voting for him in the VA Primary on 2/12.
I believe that Ann Coulter & Tammy Bruce and other conservative pundits are actually trying to defend the GOP, by ensuring that, if there has to be a liberal President, he or she actually is known as a Democrat so that THEIR party can suffer the consequences of a liberal presidency.
A McCain presidency would hurt the Republican party significantly. An Obama or Clinton presidency would at least put the blame for all of these liberal policies squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats. (Of course, this in part requires the media to hold them accountable, so, given the free pass the Democratic-led Congress is getting, I'm not sure this thought process isn't greatly flawed)
I'm not sure I'm willing to go there given the extent of damage a liberal President could do. This is not the same world it was when Bill Clinton took office. Weak national security could result in the death of our people on our soil. Spending would definitely go up under Hillary, versus McCain. But I do see Ann's point that it may be better to sacrifice 4 years for the long-term benefit of the conservative movement. I'm just not convinced it's worth the strength of our economy to do it, much less innocent American lives, and I fear that both of these are the price we will pay for a Democratic president.
Historically speaking no Senator has beaten a Governor in the GE in the last 100 years. So both Huckabee and Romney can beat either Hillary or Obama BUT, one of them has to beat McCain first.
NY Sen. Hillary and Bill Clinton (First lady, and Gov of Ark.)
Romney Gov of Mass. With his current positions on social issues he probably can't beat Hillary in the GE in New England or New York and the Old South don't know him or trust him so -2 there.
Huckabee Gov of Ark. Can win in the Old South, but can't win in the North East +1 and -1 there.
Now here is the big question who do you think is better prepared to go head to head with Hillary and Bill in the GE?
Well I think Bill and Huckabee having been born and raised in the same state, and both rising to governor in that state gives the edge to Huckabee... not now, but in the GE. We want to actually beat Hillary right, not just get a candiate that she eats for lunch. Huckabee knows Ark. politics and he has been saving all of his good punches for Bill and Hill. I am sure he won't disappoint. Also, I suspect that Huckabee will be choosing Duncan Hunter for VP, Hunter will not support Romney. Romney is going to pick Jeb Bush as his VP (I live in FL, i have this on good information) so here is your line up:
Clinton/Wes Clark (Ark.-NY/Ark.)
Vs.
McCain/Giuliani (Ariz./NY.) or
Romney/Jeb Bush (Mass./Fla.) or
Huckabee/Hunter (Ark./Calif.)
Remember First beat McCain, then Hillary
BTW if Obama wins we are going to need someone who can pull black votes in the south. Also there is possibility McCain could pick Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) for his VP.
We better come with every vote we can find Tuesday or I may be joining Clear Thinker on the write in for Prez. And why in the name of common sense is Huck-a-tax still hanging on? He has got to be in a plan with McLib to get a VP spot.
Just don't do a write in a candidate for the primary. Mitt Romney is jut too attractive of a candidate. He needs to be the President. I'm sitting here thinking about. Central Casting couldn't have come up with a better man to run for Office!
Watching Ann in this clip is like falling down the rabbit hole. If you had a crystal ball and told me this was going to happen 3 years ago, I'd have said you were crazy.
Especially the part where Alan says, "Don't interrupt her." Deep down inside, I totally loved that part.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
If Anne Coulter votes for Hillary Clinton she is voting for a Socialist. She is voting for open borders. She is voting for driving licences for illegals. She is voting for Hillarycare. She is voting for partial birth abortion. She is no longer a conservative.
Socialist = High Taxes
Socialist=Social Medicine.
Some conservative elements in the GOP are hell bent on self destruction. They have adopted the motto "Cut off your nose to spite your face."
Elect Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama ar your peril. Either would probably be re-elected. So the GOP could be without the Presidency for at least eight years.
There is evidence that McCain is reaching out to the right. Please give the man a chance.
For Anne Coulter it may be a case of voting in haste for Hillary and repenting at leisure. Those whom the gods destroy, they first make mad. Those who aid or abet the election of Hillary Clinton are working intentionally or untentionally to promote Socialism.
The GOP increasingly resembles the British Conservative Party at the time of John Major's premiership. The party tore itself asunder on abstract ideological discussions. It lost power to the Labour Party in 1997. It has lost the last three general elections. It has never recovered. A lesson for the GOP
There is evidence that McCain is reaching out to the right. Please give the man a chance.
ROFPMSL!!
Giving a speech about global warming after Arnold Schwarzeneggar endorsed him - the day after he won Florida - yeah that's really reaching out to the Right.
The guy who called Christian ministers "agents of intolerance" and wants Roe v Wade to stay in place -- all the sudden he needs the Right to win so he's pretending to reach out?
OTHERWISE how could one explain away, snow in Baghdad. When was the last time you heard about trains getting stuck in SNOW. 5th. snow storm in Hawaii. Don't forget about 67F below ZERO
Global warming means things warm up ! Call me back when it hits 120F in Omaha.
The term "climate" refers to the long-term (30 years or more) mean. Things are warming up, in a mean sense. All datasets that I know of show a warming trend.
The policy question, i.e., the one concerning politicians, is a matter of "what action, if any, is warranted, given what we know now?" I happen to believe that draconian measures are completely unwarranted. But we do need to get our act together to meet tomorrow's energy needs -- increased R&D should be a priority among conservatives.
After some thought about this, I think this is feint of desperation on Coulter's part. Based on her frequently vocal opposition to Bill Clinton in any way, shape, and form, I don't believe she would honestly assist getting him and Hillary back into the White House.
Rather, I think this is an aggressive; last-ditch PR maneuver to get the GOP to nominatee Romney.
And to sell her new book. =)
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
"I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that. I don't have any problem with that." - John McCain
Will someone answer me this. The news keep saying Romney has 50 something points. But this website, and CNN's show Mitt With 74. McCain has 97, and Gomer Pyle has 29, which aught to mean the SOB is dropping out. Why are Barnes and Mort on their Beltway Boys show giving out the wrong point count? They did the same on the Wall Street Journal show on Fox. They were rooting for McCain, and dissin' Romney.
With all of the disinformation out there, it's no wonder Mitt Romney is low in the polls. Looking at the delegate count, Romney is right on Johnny Boy's tail! Mike Huckabee is like they guy with a shovel and a pail, who trails the parade!
We need to start a movement. We need to start the Alice's Restaurant anti-massacre movement!!! (man it's been a long day!) Seriously, we need to get energized and attend Goober's campaign rallies just so we can heckle him for staying in the race, and screwing Romney. I know I will hit anything that comes our way.
There has been something beyond strange going on with most of the media and, to my surprise, very much so with Fox of putting down Romney, misrepresenting numerous things about him and pumping up John Keating5 McCain for quite a while now.
I cannot for the life of me understand just what is going on here, but if the result of all this is the nomination of McCain I am done with Fox news and the Republican party as well. I will definitely re-register as an Independent and discontinue any and all support of the Republican party. After the total mess they have made of governing for the past 13 years in congress and 7 years in the White House, then to force this moronic RINO on us is just too much for this long standing member of the party.
In the meantime, I am doing everything in my power to convince everybody I talk with to go with Romney on Tuesday to try to stop this madness, but I fear my efforts are going to be wasted.
When I moved behind enemy lines to Massachusetts recently, I registered to vote as "unenrolled" for the same reason.
If calling myself a "Republican" puts me on the side of the bridge to nowhere congress that spent like drunken sailors on shore leave or our open borders president, count me out.
No, Romney isn't the perfect conservative. But he's the closest thing to it in this race by far, and I will vote for him on Tuesday.
I hope it's correct. This part makes me wonder though:
Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis.
Do they (finally) take a representative sample of cellphone users rather than almost exclusively land line? If not, isn't the more technically knowledgeable young demographic ignored?
Three members of my immediate family have cellphones, and NEVER are they polled for their opinions.
I don't think it's the youth of America supporting McCain. Maybe the results are even better than reported.
"McCain's biggest margin of support came from those who said the environment should be the top issue for the next president. Among these voters, McCain beat Romney 55 percent to 15 percent."
Several months ago if you had asked me about McCain I might have said yes.
However in the past few weeks he has shown himself to be a liar, a cheat, and a backstabber. Instead of backing off his amnesty plan, he begrudgingly says "those people" insist on building a fence first. Instead of admitting he was wrong about the tax cuts, he lies about his reason for opposing them. Instead of giving Romney credit for his economy plan, he plays class warfare by saying military men aren't in it for the profit - as if it's somehow wrong to be a good businessman.
When McCain won in Florida every pundit in America advised him to shift to the Right to unite the party. What does he do? The next day he accepts an endorsement from Arnold Schwarzenneggar and gives a speech about global warming.
Back in October when Free wrote that, a lot of Republicans were hoping that if McCain came back he would be humble enough to ask for our help and be respectful toward the other candidates. But he is acting out of arrogance, pushing the far Right away from him, lying about Romney the night before a primary, and basically daring conservatives to vote against him.
I'm just very surprised by freestinkers complete 180 on this. The thread that I linked to he emphasized how Republicans need to unite against Hillary no matter who the nominee is. Don't get me wrong I am just not saying he is a flip flopper, I am just surprised
In fact I am very surprised by many members of NB. Seems many will not vote at all if McCain is the nominee. Don't conservatives care if Hillary appoints Liberal judges to the SCOTUS? At least a 4 yr setback for overturning Roe V Wade? Fairness Doctrine?
No worries though according to Pop Techs math, the msm polls are not correct and McCain will be defeated this Tuesday.
Don't conservatives care if Hillary appoints Liberal judges to the SCOTUS? At least a 4 yr setback for overturning Roe V Wade? Fairness Doctrine?
This right here is the very crux of the issue. McCain is making no effort to reach out to the Right or befriend conservatives because he assumes we'll be so scared of Hillary we'll be broken into submission.
It's like an abusive husband who knows he can keep beating his wife because she's afraid of being homeless. McCain is abusing the GOP and then daring us to abandon the vote.
We expected him to at least try to make nice with conservatives but he's not even trying. That is the difference. When he runs around saying Alito is a bad judge, Al Qaeda deserves consitutional rights, and we should all sacrifice for the environment, how is he any different from the Clintons?
I thought you might be interested on McCain's response today on Fox with Wallace about the SC judges...this is just the transcript...they may have a link to a video by now..but scroll down and you can see he is working on the conservatives now with his answers.
He he yeah, watch him reach out to the right by saying "we need conservative - er, I mean, strictly legalistic judges." Nice acting.
And I love how he says he's ready to debate Hillary head on, but as soon as Wallace brings up the economy he backs off and says he's not ready to debate her.
That woman was never married to McCain in the first place. In fact that woman had a choice between 5 husbands. Seems that woman didn't like Thompson, Hunter or Tancredo. Like it or not that woman that might be marrying McCain will be for better or worse for the republican party.
Those are the cards you are dealt and if you want to fold and let your opponen win, so be it.
The message from Brit Hume and Bill Kristol on FNS was "Quit whining...you bear much of the blame".
Apparently, you waited too long to rally around a perfectly viable conservative--Mitt Romney--and now it is too little, too late. While waiting for the "next Reagan" to materialize, and rejecting Romney, you allowed McCain to come back from the dead, and develop a momentum which is now unstoppable. The game is over. Hewillbethenominee.
--My prediction is that many of you who insist you will never vote for McCain will have a change of heart by November. While candidates generally appeal directly to the base during the primaries and tack toward the center as the nominee, McCain will do the reverse. Although he had staked out conservative positions before he announced his candidacy, his support has primarily come from moderate conservatives, liberal Rebuplicans, and independents. Once the nomination is secured, however, he will make a determined effort to establish and strengthen ties with the conservative base. [I predict one of his first stops will be an appearance on Limbaugh's show to emphasize his conservative credentials and demonstrate that he wants and needs conservatives to join with him to stop the Clintons from retaking the White House, appointing liberal judges, and socializing health care. If Obama is his opponent, McCain will stress his (Obama's) inexperience, his "extremely liberal" voting record, and his dangerous naivte with respect to national security and war on terror issues.]
And the national polls indicate McCain has an excellent chance of winning...much better than Romney.
bt...then you missed my point. I've said here many times I don't want the Clintons back in the White House, and was prepared to vote for candidates even more conservative than McCain to ensure it.
McCain was my "last choice", but I would still consider him if Hillary were the nominee.
Wow surfing Newsbusters, eating a foot long, and watching the game on a high definition big screent, does not get any better than this :-)
I cannot speak for Jer but it certainly does not make my day. Speaking as a some what Liberal. I have heard lots of comments like I can't wait to see the look in you traitorous lefist when you lose in 08 election. I for one think it feels like a very empty victory.
Basically admitting defeat if not the right person gets the nomination is actually pretty sad. What will the tone be like on this site if McCain gets the nomination. Will the focus of this site more shift to getting back congress?
I think it's likely that Clinton's promise to champaign for Hillary if McCain wins the nomination is a brilliant "gambit". This refers to a strategy of given some ground to you opponent in order to secure a longer term greater gain elsewhere. I find it very difficult to believe that she would actually want Hillary to win over McCain. Her intent may be to get people to think, "Gosh, if Anne really dislikes McCain that much, maybe I'd better give Romney a closer look", thereby helping Romney win the primary (it worked on me, btw!). The political cost of this, however, is that if McCain wins anyway, she'll have to march around for a bit in mock support of Hillary. She'll probably portray it in the same manner as someone who lost a bet and has to paint him/hershelf blue for a day.
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February 2, 2008 - 12:16 ET by third eyeI have a new hypothesis I would like to test. If your voting for Romney, then you believe Barack is the easier candidate to beat. Conversely, if you are voting for McCain, you think Clinton would be the easier Demo. to beat.
Let me know what you think.
they don't correllate
February 2, 2008 - 12:23 ET bythey don't correllate imo
I'm voting Romney because McAmnesty is a lib, it has nothing to do with the dems
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the President
February 2, 2008 - 17:16 ET by PopularTechPrimary Results:
87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Iowa
63% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in New Hampshire
61% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Michigan
87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Nevada
67% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in South Carolina
64% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Florida
An average 71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the Presidential Nominee
Sources affirm McCain dissed Alito (WorldNetDaily)
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100% of this Republican
February 2, 2008 - 20:36 ET by Clear thinker100% of this Republican does NOT want McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Clinton, or Obama.
I want a Conservative for president! And please don't try and tell me Mitt, or John, or whoever, is a conservative. I ain't buyin!
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Don't Buy It
February 2, 2008 - 20:56 ET by PopularTechRight in Fred or even better Ronald Reagan.
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There is no "Magic
February 3, 2008 - 02:37 ET by Gary P JacksonThere is no "Magic Republican".
I'm telling you, Renaldus Magnus himself was in this race, he wouldn't make your cut.
Mitt Romney isn't perfect. He's had some election year conversions, but so did Ronald Reagan. The man has principals. He's the only one running that doesn't have scandal after scandal dragging behind him.
If Romney isn't good enough for, then you will never ever be able to vote again!
We got a clean cut all American man. He's well spoken. He has a sharp mind. He is a business genius, as described on Neil Cavuto's show.
He knows we gotta rebuild the military, as well as keep the wheels rolling on the economy. Wanna bet he will not take the terror war seriously? I would think he would be very aggressive
Please tell me why you are so down on the guy. Is it because he is a Mormon?
I think Romney could easily
February 2, 2008 - 12:23 ET by Conservative VoiceI think Romney could easily beat either Hillary or Obama, and McCain will lose to Hillary or Obama.
I agree with Ann on this one, it would be better for Hillary to win than McCain.
Experience vs Change
February 2, 2008 - 12:32 ET by third eyeLets put aside the Repubs for a second, who do you think would be the easier Dem to beat?
Flip a coin
February 2, 2008 - 13:07 ET by Prester JohnIf the focus is on policy and not personality Obama should be easier to beat since (from what I can tell) he is more to the Left than HRC.
If however, the focus is on personality, HRC will be easier to beat. Watching and listening to her will be like to listening to fingernails on a blackboard. Obama on the other hand appears to be a reasonably nice guy who may actually listen to both sides of an issue and not always look down his nose at you.
Hillary is easier
February 2, 2008 - 13:36 ET by KC MulvilleShe's a stationary target. Most people have already made their mind up about her, and her percentages aren't likely to change much. She's still entrenched in the minority, with no hope of getting any more votes than she has now. Her only hope is that the majority against her doesn't show up in full strength, meaning that a lot of conservatives will stay home rather than vote for McCain, for example. As it is, she's gotten all the votes she's going to get.
Obama is another story. He doesn't show a fixed limit yet on how many votes he could get. Independents could move to him in a way that they would never move for Hillary.
What's that old 40-40-20 rule? No matter what happens, 40% will vote Republican, 40% will vote Democrat, and the election is really won among that undecided 20%. Hillary can't get any undecideds. Unless someone makes a good case against him, Obama could get a lot of them. Then again, I think Obama has no substance, and a good campaign against him will collapse his support.
That's NOT the Point
February 2, 2008 - 15:31 ET by CaringwhiteguyIt makes absolutely no difference who you, I or anyone else thinks might be a candidate that can more easily win the general. Think of it this way. Either Romney or McCain CAN beat either Clinton or Obama. It's their job, with our help, to do so. Therefore, which one (Romney or McCain) offers a set of beliefs and a record of governing and managing that is best for the country? That's where you vote should go. Period.
You got that right! And
February 2, 2008 - 17:54 ET by Gary P JacksonYou got that right!
And of course, there is only one choice: Mitt Romney.
'...only one choice: Mitt Romney'
February 2, 2008 - 18:05 ET by BarkerNow is the time for all good conservatives to come to the aid of their party.
Nattional polling (shown
February 2, 2008 - 19:13 ET by GregENattional polling (shown on Fox two nights ago) shows only McCain beats Obama or Clinton, and Romney handily loses to either, but that's NOW. When the two party nominees are set in March/April, they'll have 6 months to pound each other and things can absolutely change, so the polls showing Romney has no shot against Obama or Clinton are pure crap because polls on that topic at this time are probably at a 20-30% margin of error. Remember how high Rudy was in the polls in November? And where is he now?
What needs to happen is for Huckabee to drop out so his voters can move on. I believe most go to Romney, except for those whose decision-making issue is Romney being Mormon, and if that's enough for some people to not vote for, then that's very strong for them and they won't vote for him regardless of other issues, which is their prerogative. But many Huckabee voters will vote Romney. I don't know how bad of a defeat it's going to take for Huckabee to step aside though. If he keeps hanging around regardless of his primary finishes, he's really helping McCain, in my opinion.
Greg ... Could not agree
February 2, 2008 - 19:25 ET by bigtimerGreg ...
Could not agree more....
I hope Romney does not give up, I hope he has the fortitude and money to stay in until Huck leaves...Huck can't have that much money left can he...unless McCain is helping him out...how much money does McCain have I wonder and who from.
If Huck goes...Romney will win.
McCain knows that...he and Huck make me ill.
Wouldnt THAT be
February 2, 2008 - 19:38 ET by GregEWouldnt THAT be interesting, if McCain were passing money to Huck to keep him in. Ok, that's conspiracy thinking so I'm done.
Huck ain't leaving.. http://youdecide08.f...
And if Huck runs out of money, he still doesn't have to get out of the race. He simply wouldn't be able to pay for things, yet his name would still be on the ballot, and by now everyone knows his name so he'd still draw votes. That's why I believe he'll stay in until the end, or after the mess of McCain being the nominee is beyond reversal. Perhaps Huck would like a VP slot in a McCain admin.
Greg... I'm hoping Huck
February 2, 2008 - 19:48 ET by bigtimerGreg...
I'm hoping Huck will get out after Tuesday, no matter what he says...I can hope anyway...I had hoped he wouldn't have the $$$ to make it through March 4th I think it is.
...anyway...of course he is angling for VP or some-such job...quite sure he has been guaranteed whatever it is ...lol.
Even if his name is still on the ballots and he withdraws there wouldn't be all that many that would still vote for him you wouldn't think, I think the majority of the Huck supporters would go to Romney.
Well just have to hope and pray plus have a lot of patience....
How many bucks could a Huckabee suck if a.......
February 2, 2008 - 20:15 ET by BarkerHere's a good place to start.
Hey
February 2, 2008 - 20:17 ET by bigtimerHey Barker...
Thanks....
I saw at the bottom there two Walmart's and one Tyson....I will check more later...got a game to catch with the second half starting.
Awesome site. Thanks!
February 2, 2008 - 20:46 ET by GregEAwesome site. Thanks!
You're All Welcome
February 2, 2008 - 21:18 ET by BarkerFollow the milk-money.......
I agree too, Greg. I am so
February 2, 2008 - 21:45 ET by motherbeltI agree too, Greg. I am so sick of hearing this one beats that one, etc. I t just makes me want to scream!! I said in another thread, if all this is so true, why don't they just do a poll, announce the winner, and we can just forego the election in November. I mean why bother, they already know who is going to win.
Let's see..McCain looks like a lock for the nomination. And he beats both Clinton and Obama. There you go! President-elect John McCain!! Save us a lot of time.
Jeez...are they too stupid to realize that everything is going to change once there is a nominee from each party? And a month is forever in politics, nevermind 7 or 8! Who knows what might happen???
Yeah.....easily. sarc
February 2, 2008 - 12:33 ET by shawn228Yeah.....easily. sarc on.
Hillary has a friend
shawn, did you miss the
February 2, 2008 - 13:02 ET by motherbeltshawn, did you miss the video leading this thread?
motherbelt
February 2, 2008 - 13:21 ET by shawn228I have had this tagline since 5am this morning before this open thread started. I will change it back to my old one, just to make you happy.
"Suck it"
Pop Tech
What??
February 2, 2008 - 14:46 ET by motherbeltWhat??
motherbelt
February 2, 2008 - 14:50 ET by shawn228You were referring to my "Hillary has a friend" tagline weren't you?
"Suck it"
Pop Tech
I didn't realize it was a
February 2, 2008 - 19:00 ET by motherbeltI didn't realize it was a tag line. I thought it was part of the comment. I was teasing you, because you posted a link to the same video that headed the column.
Sorry. Won't make that mistake again.
It doesn't matter to me what anyone's tag line is. Don't change it on my account....
I agree with Ann too
February 2, 2008 - 13:18 ET by kgI agree with Ann too.
Why elect McCain just to have the press bash him from day one. That got old with Bush, day in and day out, every day.
Why not elect Hillary and let her really screw things up as the press tries to hide it. I predict that a 'President Hillary' would end up being impeached just like her partner. The corruption of her past is only a starting point. Imagine what would come about with her being president. Entertainment at it's finest. Then the Democrat party would cave.
Many people have the same
February 2, 2008 - 19:23 ET by GregEMany people have the same thinking on letting the Democrat really screw up. The only problem with that is liberals love government programs. If the liberal was in office, yet couldn't get a monstrous program in place, then I'd be for it if I knew that would be the case, BUT, even if the liberal screws things up, if he or she gets the gargantuan government programs in place, those NEVER go away.
On programs, liberals have to be successful ONCE. Conservatives have to be successful stopping it every OTHER time. Based on that, liberalism is a much easier mindset to be in. Tax everyone and slam in a program. That's simple, no thinking necessary. Conservatism takes thought.
Great statement, GregE. I
February 2, 2008 - 19:27 ET by HermanoGreat statement, GregE. I have been trying to think why it was that I never heard anything of substance from the left. These are exactly the right words. Thank you.
With friends like these...
February 2, 2008 - 22:40 ET by masslibertarianA garantuan gub-ment program like, oh, say, a Medicare drug benefit? We have a Republican congress and President Bush to thank for this one.
I know that very well, and
February 3, 2008 - 11:59 ET by GregEI know that very well, and was against it. Democrats were against it too, because they wanted it bigger. They also want this nonsense stimulus package to be expanded, so here it sits awaiting more debating whether to expand the handouts. They also want the S-CHIP program to be expanded. Etc, etc, etc.
Well, vote for Hillary then.
February 2, 2008 - 21:30 ET by lotrWell, vote for Hillary then.
Untrue, imo
February 2, 2008 - 14:34 ET by Scout FinchAnyone who thinks this campaign will be a tea party because Clinton and McCain are buddies, is very much mistaken. The very second McCain becomes the Republican candidate, the press will come out with sharpened knives. C'mon! He's such an easy target!
They'll report on how old he is. How unstable his mental condition is. How he's flip-flopped on many issues. Those are what come immediately to mind, you can add others to the list.
My point is, McCain's exactly who the Dems and the press wanted on the "R" side. He'll be so easy to take down. At least 2008 will be the year that puts the stake in McCain's political heart. Buh-bye, John.
The MSM will just use the
February 2, 2008 - 15:14 ET by red_dragon311The MSM will just use the sound bite's from Rush, Hannity, and any other conservitive to say "Look even THEY don't like him"
we are kinda giving them the ammo they need to crush McCain
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
The MSM will just use the
February 3, 2008 - 06:52 ET by motherbeltThe MSM will just use the sound bite's from Rush, Hannity, and any other conservitive to say "Look even THEY don't like him"
The MSM won't use it to crush McCain; they will use it to build him up. They will say those guys don't like McCain because he is not "right-wing" enough for them, because he "reaches across the aisle" etc. McCain will weave that into a big "PLUS" and the MSM will assist him in doing that.
Exactly!
February 2, 2008 - 17:16 ET by NofScout thats been there plan the whole time, divide the Repub vote between Romney and McAlien with the Huckster as the spoiler sucking votes from Romney giving McAlien the majority all the while the press touts Old Man Fiddlesticks as a great leader...blah blah blah. The Hucklespoiler drops out and supports OMF. Romney get defeated in the primaries and OMF becomes the Rep nominee. The press and the Dems wet themselves that there plan has worked and bring all guns to bear on the feable, anger management issue war hero who lost more planes then a salvage yard McAnger. Its so clear that its sad. Bill O said on Wed that McAlien's comeback was impressive and that "the press had nothing to do with it" I about broke my TV over that comment and probably scared my neighbors yelling at the TV. They (press) have been giving this guy non-stop coverage, puffing him as the greatest guy ever and bearly mention the other guy....the morman....flippidly flop governer...etc...Most people believe what they see on TV. Romney has had the cards stacked against him from the start.
"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" R. Reagan
I don't think McCain can
February 2, 2008 - 17:51 ET by Gary P JacksonI don't think McCain can beat either one of the dims.
I do think Romney could mop the floor with either one.
With McCain, there is not enough difference between the candidates to make much difference. I think a dim or independent would just go ahead and vote for the one who actually has a (D) after their name. Why settle?
On the other hand, Romney and the dims are 180 degrees out. It would be a bad a$$ debate.
And for the record, I think Ann is dead serious. At least about the voting for her part. And you KNOW the campaign would use this video!
Ann Coulter is a
February 2, 2008 - 19:54 ET by LilyPearlAnn Coulter is a hypocrite. For someone like Ann, who is strongly pro life, to say she will campaign for Hillary over John McCain, who has a strong pro life voting record, just reeks. Now I don't like the fact that he supports embryonic stem cell research, but he is against abortion. If it comes between Hillary and McCain, I will vote for McCain based on his anti abortion voting record. I used to like Ann, but she is becoming a parody of herself.
Lily
February 2, 2008 - 20:05 ET byAnn is bombastic and a liberal user of the (hegalian) dialectic. As such the descriptive term parodorical fits her well.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
LilyPearl
February 2, 2008 - 20:05 ET by candanceBetter think twice about John McCain. He has recently said he wants Roe v Wade to stay in place because all those poor girls would die in backalley abortions without it. He also said he would not consider abortion when looking for judges.
Think I'm lying? The Washington Post quoted him.
McCain has a consistent
February 2, 2008 - 22:01 ET by lotrMcCain has a consistent pro-life record; that's more than we can say about the chameleon Mitt. Since when do we take what the Washington Compost as the "no-spin zone" about candidates positions around here? George W. Bush never said he would "consider abortion" when looking for judges either (and he was flat out asked about this during the 2004 debates) Thank God he had more political savvy than that, else we would've all elected Algore for 8 years. And the MSM has crucified him, nonetheless.
lotr?
February 2, 2008 - 22:19 ET by candanceAre you kidding me? You think the Washington Post made that up?
In 2000 the San Fransico Chronicle quoted McCain saying "Certainly in the short term, or even in the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v Wade, which would then force x number of women in America to illegal and dangerous operations."
McCain did nothing to deny or challenge the story.
In 2007 he did a total flip-flop and said he wanted Roe v Wade gone.
I've posted a link to a well-known newspaper that ran his direct quote. Please provide a link to show McCain challenged the quote as a lie. I've searched the web and haven't found one yet.
I'm not saying the Compost
February 3, 2008 - 21:28 ET by lotrI'm not saying the Compost made that up -- just that they are likely to have put spin on it. Regardless of what he (McCain) may have said about overthrowing Roe v. Wade, his senate voting record has been pro-life, which is infinitely more (given that they have a 100% pro-abortion track record) than we can say about either Hillary or "let-the-'abortus'-die-on-the-table" Barack. As a social conservative, I am diametrically opposed to Hillary or Barack, but it seems folks here want to see the pro-choice dream-team win.
LilyPearl, I usually like
February 2, 2008 - 22:09 ET by lotrLilyPearl, I usually like Ann Coulter -- her sarcasm is a welcome relief to liberal insanity sometimes. However, I agree with you on this one, and unfortunately her comments are being taken seriously here. And BTW, McCain supported using the "left-over" embryos that would be destroyed (a position many other Republicans in Congress also broke rank with Bush on, including the Senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia) -- he doesn't support unmitigated embryonic stem cell research. Not perfect, but leagues better than ALL the pro-abortion Democratic candidates.
You are wrong!
February 2, 2008 - 22:33 ET by masslibertarianI support Romney over McCain without regard to which of the other 2 liberals he'll have to face in November.
point is
February 2, 2008 - 12:21 ET byMcAmnesty is a lib
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Hey Ann, I'd think twice
February 2, 2008 - 12:42 ET by rbosqueHey Ann, I'd think twice about that. The Bilderburgs like here to be president...
"...Hillary will be good for America...
we'll be very pleased that she's president." -- Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Portfolio
magazine, October 5, 2007
Same thing happened before Bill was elected.
I compared Juan McAmnestys
February 2, 2008 - 12:48 ET by ConservativeRexI compared Juan McAmnestys voting record with Ed Kennedy's, and on just the illegal immigrant bill it's enough to keep him out of office. But there is much more to compare them, along with Barry and PIAPS. We MUST, MUST keep Juan out of the WH. He's not right for America, not right for Conservatives.
Conservatives can handle anything thrown at us in politics, we thrived under Billy Jeff for instance. If it takes, we will wait and get a REAL Conservative in the WH, one that'll quit spending like a drunken Dem and take care of what's in our Constitution.
Until then, we will join the fight. Resist where we have to, and push when we can. Maybe this next crop of conservatives will have a spine and not worry about what Libs think or what the MSM thinks.
The Day the Music Died
February 2, 2008 - 13:01 ET by ricklailToday is the 49th anniversary of the death of Charles Harden "Buddy" Holly. Buddy along with J.P. " The Big Bopper" Richardson and Richie "La Bamba" Vallens died when their plane crashed near Clearlake, Iowa in the early morning hours of Feb. 2, 1959. If I remember correctly Richie Vallens was only 16 years old with a very promising career ahead of him. As you go about today, whistle a Buddy Holly tune in tribute.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Hey, rick!
February 2, 2008 - 13:05 ET by drillanwrOne of my all time favorite songs ... EVER! And perhaps one of THE best guitar performances ever ...
SleepWalk - Ritchie Valens
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ENyUZbcpQHE
I didn't know that. I guess
February 2, 2008 - 13:37 ET by ricklailI didn't know that. I guess we have thought of Richie as more of a singer than a guitarist. I guess to me Dick Dale is the greatest because I went to so many beach movies in my teens.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
SleepWalk - Ritchie Valens
February 2, 2008 - 13:49 ET by richardHey drill, I ain't gettin your tribute to Ritchie Valens for SleepWalk.
Yea, that was the signature song for the movie about Ritchie Valens, but it had zero to do with his performances, other than he played it like so many others. That song was written and performed by Santo & Johnny, and that's where all credit should go.
You're right though about it being an all time great instrumental.
Hey, I just like it ...
February 2, 2008 - 13:54 ET by drillanwrHey, I just like it ...
That brings back some
February 2, 2008 - 18:02 ET by Gary P JacksonThat brings back some memories! And you are right, Sleepwalk is one of the great all time instrumentals.
Brian Setzer does one heck of a version on his "Dirty Boogie" album.
Bugs Henderson, one of the greatest unknown guitarists also does one heck of a riff with it. Check out his website:
http://www.bugshende...
Gary et al -
February 2, 2008 - 18:33 ET by drillanwrBrian Setzer - Sleepwalk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B9oHghXKh0E
You'll find other samples of him playing the song on the site.
Bugs Henderson live @ the Granada Theater in Dallas Tx
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n90RIPhehCs
Kool!
February 2, 2008 - 19:15 ET by Gary P JacksonKool!
One of the best concerts I
February 2, 2008 - 22:39 ET by balboaOne of the best concerts I ever went to, The Brian Setzer Orchestra.
Did you see Brian &
February 3, 2008 - 02:42 ET by Gary P JacksonDid you see Brian & Orchestra's Christmas show? it was fantastic!
Did he play that in the
February 2, 2008 - 14:51 ET by motherbeltDid he play that in the movie? I only remember the Santo and Johnny version...I didn't know Richie Valens had one too. Been a loooong time since I've seen the movie too, so I didn't remember it.
Do you know which one of them did the original and whose was the cover version? Not that it matters....great song by anyone.
That song was written and
February 2, 2008 - 15:02 ET by richardThat song was written and performed by Santo & Johnny, and that's where all credit should go.
Ritchie Valens was an OK guitar player at best.
Sleep walk
February 2, 2008 - 17:00 ET by BufordAhhh, fond memories of the back seat of my car on Daytona Beach watching the "Submarine Races" with my honey.
The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan
See!
February 2, 2008 - 17:27 ET by drillanwrGreat song ... whoever is responsible for it.
Valens Soundtrack
February 2, 2008 - 20:52 ET by Del DolemonteIn the movie, it's the Santo and Johnny cover.
For some strange reason, on the music CD soundtrack album (CD), the song does not appear. That may be because it was only used briefly in the movie.
Let's not forget who did much of the great music for that movie, one of the best working rock and roll bands in America today-Los Lobos.
Yes, Brian Setzer had a
February 3, 2008 - 02:46 ET by Gary P JacksonYes, Brian Setzer had a part in the movie. Playing Eddie Cochran.
http://imdb.com/name...
Santo and Johnny, but you
February 2, 2008 - 18:48 ET by robert108Santo and Johnny, but you were close.
The Guys Who Gave Up Their Seats
February 2, 2008 - 20:38 ET by Del Dolemontehttp://www.jsonline....
Many people forget the two guys who gave up their seats on the plane to the Big Bopper and Richie Valens. One was named Waylon Jennings, the other was Holly's guitar player Tommy Allsup, who would later go on to play with and produce Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys.
Tommy in fact performed in Clear Lake at the Surf Ballroom last night, some 49 years after he lost a coin toss to Valens for a seat on the plane:
http://www.globegaze...
Is she being serious, or intentionally provocative?
February 2, 2008 - 13:02 ET by drillanwrI think ANN is trying to scare the living crap out of
the base (who don't appear to be outwardly involved in this primary process),
Romney (who needs to start fighting damn harder because he is our last best candidate that even remotely resembles a conservative),
McCain (who needs to 1. think before he chooses people to help with his campaign who don't have our nation's sovereignty at the forefront of homeland and economic security 2. stop taking for granted the conservative wing of the republican party because many will stay home on election day and GIVE the presidency to the dems. His hero POW status only goes so far. I'm sorry ...)
Anyhow, if you listen carefully at the beginning of the video clip Ann does admit, "Okay, that part isn't true ..." I assume in regards to her campaining for Hillary comment.
Ramblings
February 2, 2008 - 14:51 ET by richardAnn is infuriated, as I am, that supposed conservative Republicans can't seem to see the forest thru the trees. A lot of these unthinking folks are either blind to McCain's lying and deceiving or they feel that he should get the nod simple because of his former POW status.
Understand people, conservatives give more credence to those who speak the truth, than to those who manipulate soley for their own personal agenda, even if it comes from a liberal. That is exactly what McCain has been doing and will continue to do up to the day of his inaguration.
There are some differences between McCain and his Democratic counterparts, but in all reality, these differences are not enough to trump his dishonesty. These character flaws of his have been enough to fracture the Republican part as never before.
Mitt Romney has been labeled a flip-flopper because of changes in ideology over the years, but these conversions were made after long and carefull consideration, not just whim adjustments to fit whatever it takes to jibe the folks into thinking they are on our side, such as McCain is doing.
The Democrats are smart enough to see how McCain's duplicity is effecting our party, and of course they will attack that weakness by pushing hard, via the MSM, to make sure he is our nominee, knowing full well that vast amounts of Republicans will sit home or actually vote for one of theirs before they go against their own core beliefs and vote for McCain.
If the Democrats were smart, they would make sure that Obama is their candidate, because both McCain and Clinton fall into the loath-some category and disgruntled Republicans will cross over to vote for him, but will never do so for her.
This McCain isn't a Conservative is getting out of hand
February 2, 2008 - 13:09 ET by JayTeeLook Coulter, Miss Ann, If McCain is such a Bad Conservative, lets elect him President and then he will be OUT of the SENATE...basically we can gain a Senate Seat for the Republicans, and take McCain out of Action as a legislator.
McCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold, he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
McCain says he will Cut Taxes and Cut Fed. Spending, He's Pro Military and Anti terrorist, He's Pro Life, and we all Like these in a Conservative. He says these things in his Campaign Speeches.
We don't like his Immigration stance.....well......we didn't like Pres. Bush's support of the Amenesty Bill, yet we (the People) stopped the Amnesty bill from even getting out of Congress. The State Govts. are now passing State immigration laws to pre-empt the Feds, and we have laws on the books that can be enforced on Immigration. Felons are supposed to be deported, enforce it. States hand out drivers licenses, don't give 'em to Illegals. Illegals left Oklahoma in droves after the State passed new laws targeted at illegal immigrants.
So I don't see McCain as an "Amnesty" threat anymore. He's been disarmed.
I don't like McCain's ANWR drilling stance, NOR do I like his Pro CO 2 is a pollutant Global warming stance. But ANY item to address this comes out of the Congress/Senate via Legislation. So I think shoving McCain into the Presidency allows him to sign tax Cuts, decrease Government Spending, and pursue the victory in Iraq.
But it is Nothing in, Nothing out, if Legislators don't give Amnesty bills to the President to sign.
Bottom line, I can go with McCain on his Partial Conservative Platform, as I think electing a Conservative Congress/Senate is more important since the Democrat Majority controls it right now.
I think Hillary is more of a Dufus than McCain, and I will not vote for a Socialist. I'll vote for a Part Time Conservative before I vote for Obamarama the Liberal B-HO.
Yep, those conservative
February 2, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Conservative VoiceYep, those conservative congress members sure stood up to Bush on spending, not to mention the other liberal policies he pushed.
And people will not vore in Republicans if the Republican President is not a conservative. When a President is out of control, the people vote in the opposite party in to balance the power.
You are right, it would be nice to have him no longer a Senator, but come on, a President is much more powerful than a Senator.
Conservative voice in the dark
February 2, 2008 - 13:52 ET by JayTeeA President is much more Powerful than a Senator ....... Yes, but in different ways. Yes he has a VETO, but YES the Congress/Senate Can override a VETO...a balance of power.
The President is Commander in Chief.........but the President does NOT command the State laws, Drivers license enforcement, State Taxes, etc.... The Presidents reach has some Limits. McCain does have Conservative views that his Presidency can address within the Bureaucracy, but Introducing bills in Congress is not one of them, he signs, he vetoes, but he doesn't compose and debate on the floor of Congress.
Yes, the President is more powerful, he appoints Cabinet posts, but Congress is Equal in many ways ... as the Congress and the President have to co-operate to accomplish War/Peace/Taxes/Court nominees. The Pres isn't a Czar or a Dictator.
One congressman != congress.
February 2, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Conservative VoiceOne congressman != congress. President lobbies congress to write certain bills, this is civics 101. McCain will have more power than he did as a Senator, this is not even debatable. Fact is I do not want to promote McCain, I want him fired!
JT -
February 2, 2008 - 13:18 ET by drillanwrIf McCain is such a Bad Conservative, lets elect him President and then he will be OUT of the SENATE...basically we can gain a Senate Seat for the Republicans, and take McCain out of Action as a legislator.
McCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold, he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
I really tend to agree with you on this. Unlike many conservatives who vow NOT to vote if it's McCain, or worse yet to vote Hillary, I WILL vote for him.
I believe this election, on the republican side at least, is going to come down to WHO is the Veep running-mate. We saw the start of this with GWBush in 2000. That whole gravitas crap ... and then he selected Dick "later known as Darth" Cheney. EVERYONE knows Cheney has been very active in these two administrations.
I believe gone are the days of the silent figure-head Veep. I think we saw the last of that with Al Gore. Hell, I can't even recall Carter's Veep ...
Whoever Hillary would choose (and Obsama too ... especially him) would NEVER be given any sort of active participation in her administration, other than hunting and gathering donors for her coffers for the next election.
I want to vote for who is
February 2, 2008 - 13:26 ET by USA4freedomI want to vote for who is best for America. Not, who beats whom. One of the reasons is Clinton and Giuliani “were” shoo-ins 6 months ago, and now?
THAT is what the RNC does not understand about us. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT WHO WINS (or who beats who) ITS ABOUT WHO RUNS THE COUNTRY.
We have someone that will promise us rainbows and unicorns and magically “free” health care. Then we have someone that has so little respect for the office that they have sex in the oval office. Then there is someone willing to sell out this complete nation to being over run by an army of 3rd world people that do not even speak our language, just to get their votes?
Then there is Mitt, and he is way behind in the polls.
Look if those three are my choice, I will vote Libertarian, and no my candidate will not win, but from the look of it neither will America.
I still will vote for Republicans in the general election. But I’m sorry I can not vote for a man that shoots us the finger at every chance. For that, I am to reward him? The only thing that give me worry is SCOTUS, but then, Mc Cain thinks that some are “too conservative” anyway.
Lets face it, he thinks he can win with out us. If he does win it will be with out a large part of our backing. So why would he care what we think or do?
I love the people that tell us well, what if he promised us, XYZ in the Republican platform? Not that he has or ever will. The platform means nothing for the most part. Its just window dressing.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Don't get me wrong ... I
February 2, 2008 - 13:32 ET by drillanwrDon't get me wrong ...
I AM hoping and praying damn hard Romney pulls this out in the end.
Yea me too, for the good of
February 2, 2008 - 13:50 ET by USA4freedomYea me too, for the good of this great country
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
McCain can no longer
February 2, 2008 - 15:02 ET by motherbeltMcCain can no longer co-operate with Kennedy or Feingold,
he is suddenly taken out of the Legislative process. He will NOT have
a vote in Congress, but the VP can have a VOTE if needed.
Yeah, but there will still be others to cooperate with Kennedy etc., and President McCain would sign what they send him. How is that a plus? Didn't he say he would actually sign his amnesty bill that failed, but don't worry, they won't let it get to him? Are we supposed to be comforted by that?
I don't know why anyone cares about VP. Who was it that said the job of a VP is to go to state funerals? I still remember Bush saying his VP choice would "make your eyes light up." Then cam Cheney, and everyone went "HUH?"
As Thomas Sowell said
McCain's "straight talk express" should be called the “sell-out express” because McCain has
sold out not only with amnesty for illegal aliens but also sold out the
First Amendment.....
And he also said:
Super Tuesday may be the voters’ last chance to bring the so-called “straight talk express” to a screeching halt.
I could respond to your lies but I am not allowed
February 2, 2008 - 20:41 ET by PopularTechYour post is full of lies and naive nonsense but since I am unable to respond to this your lies will stay unchallenged which is good for McCain and Huckasuck supporters.
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PopularTech
February 2, 2008 - 20:47 ET by Free StinkerPT - could you post any anti-McCain links you have as a Forum Topic in "Off-Topic" Then you can just link to it! ;-)
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Better This Way
February 2, 2008 - 20:53 ET by PopularTechIt is better that McCain and Huckasuck Supporters can keep the facts out this so they can attract more naive idiots.
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Ok. :-( Do you
February 2, 2008 - 20:58 ET by Free StinkerOk. :-(
Do you want to Pledge to not support RINOs ever again ? ;-)
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Free... I just took your
February 2, 2008 - 21:08 ET by Clear thinkerFree... I just took your pledge.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Thank You!
February 2, 2008 - 21:19 ET by Free StinkerThank You! :-)
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Count me in too! Romney
February 3, 2008 - 02:52 ET by Gary P JacksonCount me in too!
Romney is our man!
Romney is a RINO too
February 3, 2008 - 12:13 ET by BritcomHe is just wearing a trunk for this election.
The McCain supporters are awake.
February 3, 2008 - 12:28 ET by Free StinkerAh,
the McCain supporters are awake.
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Actually I am supporting Huckabee
February 3, 2008 - 13:12 ET by BritcomI was supporting Hunter and as you know Hunter endorsed Huckabee because Romney's company is attempting to sell 3Com to the Red Army in China.
Hunter was the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Hunter said Romney is a "No-Go" because of the China deal.
Well, at least that's what Hunter "said"....
February 3, 2008 - 16:34 ET by RJ....but I believe his endorsement was purely the result of backs being scratched.
So Romney still runs that company? And he's involved in their "attempt to sell 3Com to the Red Army in China?"
Wow, who knew? (sarcasm)
Pop
February 3, 2008 - 12:10 ET by BritcomIf you recall I said you should be allowed to post your links if want to.
I'd Rather Send McCain to Gitmo
February 3, 2008 - 12:07 ET by Britcom-
Dream Ticket?
February 2, 2008 - 13:35 ET by BarkerLimbaugh/Coulter '08
Conservatives are soooo pissed that ...
February 2, 2008 - 13:42 ET by drillanwrAt this point, they would probably take the ticket and leave Hillary or Obsama bleeding in the general election ...
Instead of planning for the
February 2, 2008 - 13:58 ET by JetBlastInstead of planning for the worst, what can we do to help Romney get elected and avoid this disaster? He's obviously a much better candidate so we need to find out who's voting for his challenger and put a stop to it.
Ann will not vote for Mrs. Rodham Clinton but she sure might put the scare into the RNC to wake up and look where the party might be headed. This gives more media attention to the issue and might wake some of the McCain voters up. They might start doing research for once instead of simply voting name recognition.
I think that the only hope
February 2, 2008 - 14:51 ET by USA4freedomI think that the only hope is for Huckabee do drop out and for Mitt pick up his people. He is not going to do that because IMHO, he is blocking for Mc Cain (I guess a VP job). Once Mitt is dead in the water he will drop out. Doing the job of a “foot soldier for Mc Cain”.
The combo of Huck and Mitt beats Mc Cain.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
CNN's Politics.com has
February 2, 2008 - 15:52 ET by motherbeltCNN's Politics.com has McCain telling reporters “From what we see in the polls, there is a very good chance it could be over on Tuesday,” said the Arizona senator, adding: “The sooner we get that done, the sooner I can go to work on uniting the party."
Good luck with that, John.
He sounds pretty sure he can do it:
Despite his complicated history with the party’s base, he said, pragmatic Republicans will back him when faced with the Democratic alternative.
who gets who
February 3, 2008 - 12:02 ET by BritcomRomney could not pick up Huckabee's people, they are FairTax/Pro-Life/Pro-Gun/ Pro-Family/Pro-Bible mostly southern people. Those people dispise Romney. If Huckabee were to drop out, they would go to Ron Paul or stay home.
Now if Romney were to drop out, Huckabee could pick up a lot of Romney's people with out losing them to Paul or McCain.
You forgot anti-Mormon
February 3, 2008 - 12:11 ET by RJ...which should have headed your list.
"We're finding out that evangelicals aren't nearly as conservative as we thought." -Carlson Tucker
"I like Mike Huckabee a lot." -uber lib Mika Brezinski
→ RJ
February 3, 2008 - 12:17 ET by Cool ArrowEvangelicals are pretty much evenly split between Huckabee and Romney, aren't they?
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The point is, Cool
February 3, 2008 - 12:30 ET by RJ...that evangelicals have been generally considered to be more conservative than they're proving to be this election cycle.
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February 3, 2008 - 12:36 ET by Cool ArrowMcCain has a pretty good record against Abortion. He's more of a natural fit than Romney for those who make anti abortion a priority.
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Choose Mitt ~ Choose Life
February 3, 2008 - 12:43 ET by Free StinkerUnless I'm missing something, the only significat thing a President can to for or against abortion is their Court Appointees.
The actual math is left as an exercise for the student.
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→ No doubt, Free
February 3, 2008 - 12:49 ET by Cool ArrowBut it's going to be hard to convince evangelicals to desert McCain, who has demonstrated a pro life voting record for someone who recently joined the camp.
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No McCain. Not Now. Not Ever!
February 3, 2008 - 12:51 ET by Free StinkerAll I can tell you is that *this* Evangelical isn't voting for McCain, and never will.
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February 3, 2008 - 12:55 ET by Cool ArrowI don't expect either one of us will vote McCain, but it's important to understand people's motivations, especially when you don't agree with them.
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Groups
February 3, 2008 - 12:24 ET by BritcomThere aren't any organized "anti-Mormon" groups that I am aware of. Perhaps there are some unorganized individuals, but I would say there are more anti-Yankee or anti-CFR individuals than there are anti-Mormon.
There don't have to be "organized" anti-Mormon groups, Britcom
February 3, 2008 - 12:34 ET by RJ...any more than there have to be "organized" anti-Jewish or anti-Catholic groups.
I wouldn't know.
February 3, 2008 - 12:56 ET by BritcomThe groups that I named were all well known (and legal) organized political interest groups. I would not know how many people comprise unorganized bigots as a demographic.
oooh, you said that word...
February 3, 2008 - 13:06 ET by RJWell, let me say, Britcom, that I hope the national demographic isn't what we've seen here.
IMO, Huckabee leads the "unorganized" anti-Mormons. His dislike of Romney appears to be visceral, going well beyond his stated reasons, and his message is understood.
You are exactly right. We
February 2, 2008 - 18:31 ET by Gary P JacksonYou are exactly right. We have to do everything in our power to help Romney out. I just have to say please to all of the write-in crowd. Do that in the general if you must, but in the primary, anything but a vote for Romney, is a vote for McCain. And a vote for McCain would be, well, unAmerican.
Fox just had Huckabee on. He was whining because Romney supporters have been telling him he needs to throw in the towel. He doesn't like that at all. But he knows he can't win and Romney can. He is just a selfish jerk for not doing the honorable thing. What ever deal McCain made with Huckster, he will break it in a heartbeat anyway.
When is CPAC?
You would think Ann, and other conservatives could stage a coup d'etat, and let the party officials know exactly how we all feel.
Romney '08!
Gary
February 2, 2008 - 18:54 ET by candanceEveryone on here needs to remember that those of us who are turning on McCain are planning on doing so if he gets the nod. We are fully prepared to support Romney and do our best to help him right now, and if Romney wins the primaries I will stick by him.
Anything to hurt that sleazeback McPain.
There is a big movement among the right to stage a boycott, but the MSM is snuffing it out. I was talking on here last night about Hannity & Colmes - even as Ann Coulter announced she hated him, that jerk Frank Luntz said Republicans were beginning to accept him and Sean immediately set in bashing Ann for her opinion.
The entire media is censoring conservative movement to make angry voters think that everyone else is on the bandwagon so there's no use in boycotting McCain.
That explains all the polls showing him as the winner, the pundits saying he could beat Hillary, they are making him look inevitable and snuffing out Limbaugh and Coulter.
Hi cd... Not to butt in
February 2, 2008 - 19:03 ET by bigtimerHi cd...
Not to butt in but...(lol)...
I too saw that segment on H&C last night and was infuriated to the utmost....you summed the rest up well, you said it all for me...that is exactly what I thought and do think..it was maddening.
Yeah Bigtimer
February 2, 2008 - 19:17 ET by candanceHow can Sean say one thing to his radio audience and another to his Fox audience? I really think he's in the bag for McCain but knows that radio listeners are tuning him in right after Rush and do not want to hear any McCain defending, so to keep his audience he pretends to agree with Rush.
But on Fox News his true colors come out.
I used to like Sean but over the past couple years he has become a GOP kool aid drinker.
cd... I think Sean is not
February 2, 2008 - 19:28 ET by bigtimercd...
I think Sean is not for McCain, I think he is down to Romney too...
I think he liked Thompson and Rudy earlier.
JMHO.
Oh yeah, a lot of the media
February 2, 2008 - 19:22 ET by Gary P JacksonOh yeah, a lot of the media is giving McCain rave reviews and carrying his water. I missed the show. Wow, it's hard to hear that about Sean. he said on his radio show he was absolutely voting for Mitt Romney.
If Romney can have a great showing on Tuesday, just stay competitive, the polls will change. Look at all of the other, "inevitable" candidates on both sides that have been up or down. McCain himself was out of money and on his way out!
Anything is possible.
Barker
February 2, 2008 - 17:14 ET by bigtimerLimbaugh/Coulter '08
If only.....it'll just have to be in our dreams...lol!
Naturally, I like it....just the thought of the msm going mad is delicious.
You better hope it just
February 2, 2008 - 17:25 ET by JerYou better hope it just remains in your dreams, unless you want the GOP to fade into oblivion.
But the msm would love that ticket. It would do wonders for ratings and newspaper sales.
Jer
Jer... The GOP is already
February 2, 2008 - 17:37 ET by bigtimerJer...
The GOP is already working on fading into oblivion all by themselves.
Thanks for your input.
bt...Dems are also showing
February 2, 2008 - 17:50 ET by Jerbt...Dems are also showing signs of self-destructing. Maybe time for a major realignment.
Jer
Women and minorities hit
February 2, 2008 - 18:33 ET by Gary P JacksonWomen and minorities hit hardest.
Ann's remark
February 2, 2008 - 13:55 ET by candanceI think Ann was joking about campaigning for Hillary, but she's serious about not endorsing McCain.
Conservatives loved Ann Coulter in the 90s when she wrote High Crimes and Misdemeanors, but now that she's criticising Mr. "I Can Beat Hillary" all the sudden she's hateful.
I'm a fan of hers because she has always kept it real. Her fair-weather fans need not buy her books the next time she criticizes someone they don't like.
I agree on both, the
February 2, 2008 - 15:09 ET by motherbeltI agree on both, the campaigning and the not endorsing, candance.
I think she is one royally PO'd lady.
Just what the heck happened to make McCain "inevitable" all of a sudden? I'm really worried that it's the "Dole" thing...he deserves it...I think a lot of Republicans, not just the party bigwigs, are thinking he deserves it, and for that reason, vote for him. A "Pity Presidency"? It's not some Hollywood "Lifetime Achievement Award" for heaven's sake!
Hi candance, Has Mrs. Clinton kept more secrets than Juan Mc ?
February 2, 2008 - 15:30 ET by upcountrywaterI'm talking military secrets here, she been in closed door meeting as a Senator... She didn't rat out a secret regarding satelite phones:
They can be tracked via GPS. Man-years of secret work, trashed in a day.
Is she up on military tactics , and war craft?
If so then I'm with Ann
Ann sez:
You need little flags like that for Republicans since, as we know from
the recent unpleasantness in Florida, Republicans are unalterably
stupid.
Republicans who vote for McCain are trying to be cute, like the
Democrats were four years ago by voting for the "pragmatic" candidate,
Vietnam vet John Kerry. This will turn out to be precisely as clever a
gambit as nominating Kerry was, the brilliance of which was revealed on
Election Day 2004.
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
Cha, cha, change, it's a comming. <all computer screens are now blank & black> screw YOUR change
John Keating5 McCain is
February 2, 2008 - 15:47 ET by Captain RepusJohn Keating5 McCain is nothing more than a bitter old man who I believe is very close to going over the edge when he is pitted against losing an argument. I watch this guy with his wild eyes, moronic inappropriate grins, inability to answer any questions about his record and blatent lies about his opponent and really have to question his ability to lead the world to anything other than chaos.
I know it looks hopeless right now, but we cannot, I repeat cannot give up our efforts to try to get republican voters to use their heads for something other than a hat-rack and think about what they are getting with a McCain vote.
Look folks, there is a tremendous amount at stake here. 4 or 8 more years of Bill open-mouth Clinton and Hillary head-nodder Clinton will put this country in the hands of the socialists just long enough such that by the end of their term the majority population of the country will be latino and black, both of which are solid socialist voting blocs, and the republican/conservative party will be lost forever. Of course, on the positive side of this scenario, this majority latino/black voting bloc will represent something very important to conservative republicans - customers.
McCain/Huckabee
February 2, 2008 - 15:34 ET by CharliegivHuckabee stays in to drain some of the conservtive vote from Romney. All to get a vice presidential spot on the ticket. With McCain's age, he probably figures that's the fastest way to the White House. However, can anyone really see this as a winning ticket when the mainstream media, which is now fawning all over McCain, finally turns on him? I don't.
NB staff...thanks for the
February 2, 2008 - 15:54 ET by bigtimerNB staff...thanks for the video clip here of what Ann said the other night...much appreciated.
As to what Ann expresses...it is also felt by me...the pure anger and disgust of having McCain shoved down our throats by the big-wigs in the party is beyond despicable for me....I am completely outraged with the msm too.
McCain today deciding to sit in Romney's back yard as the msm is liking to use the phrase..to poke a stick in his eye to say "if you can't win your own state you are done...bow out now."...I cannot stand the arrogance of the vindictive mean little leftist man...he is no friend to this country as far as I am concerned...his floor speeches and voting record are proof of that.
(I know, I know, the self-imposed Sheriff of the Senate, the foot-soldier was a POW, I am sick of hearing it, I am sick of him running on it, along with his act of being the self-declared winner of this war single-handily)...
bt
February 2, 2008 - 16:10 ET by shawn228Hi bt,
Two questions.
Would you consider 2008 lost if McCain gets the nomination?
Will you vote for McCain if he gets the nomination?
"Suck it"
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Howdy shawn... I have
February 2, 2008 - 16:24 ET by bigtimerHowdy shawn...
I have thought a lot about it... a lot...I could never ever vote for McCain, under any circumstances.
bt
February 2, 2008 - 16:27 ET by shawn228Thx for your response bt :-) btw who do you like for the game tomorrow?
"Suck it"
Pop Tech
shawn
February 2, 2008 - 21:40 ET byBT is a fan of the evil Manningesses she is. (those oreo suckers)
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
The Dems are just waiting in the weeds for McCain
February 2, 2008 - 16:14 ET by BarkerIn a Presidential Election, old news becomes tomorrow's headlines.
This could be enough to sink a dog catcher.
That is on the back burner.
February 2, 2008 - 18:39 ET by Gary P JacksonThat is on the back burner. As soon as he wins (God Forbid) It will be on a continuous loop 24/7 on all of the MSM channels!
I'm with you, bigtimer
February 2, 2008 - 16:23 ET by RJDittos on everything you said about that petty, vindictive, lying little man.
Hi RJ...My anger is
February 2, 2008 - 16:31 ET by bigtimerHi RJ...
My anger is endless, the GOP has gone to hell in a hand-basket as far as I am concerned.
I am a registered Independent, always have been, but I have associated most of my politics with the GOP...I am past disgusted with this piece of work getting crammed down our throats by the party big-wigs, and what they are doing to Romney hand in hand with the msm makes me ill, I will never forget this all...ever.
I despise McCain, I have for eons...always will.
And don't forget, bt...he
February 2, 2008 - 16:40 ET by motherbeltAnd don't forget, bt...he was the ONLY Republican to support the surge...and they ALL criticized him for it!!! <sarc off>
He said he would sign the abominable amnesty bill that he wrote, if he were President; but says not to worry, they won't send it to him!!
He is mean, and he is vindictive. Calling the youngster a "little jerk" was only half-teasing...the nastiness came through anyway. Why are we now supposed to forget the corruption of the Keating five? (Because Hillary has too many shady deals in her past to credibly bring it up?) How about his disgusing joke about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno that newspapers said was "too vicious to print" even when printing his apology for it? Do you think Mitt Romney would get a pass on that from the media? And don't forget what Thad Cochran said about him.....
Exactly mb... Every-time
February 2, 2008 - 16:51 ET by bigtimerExactly mb...
Every-time I try to cool off just a little I see the same ol' crap on the msm with the love and embrace of McCain...here we go again...
But what really did it this morning was when he says he is going to camp in Romney's back-yard during the Super Bowl and Super Tues. until he realizes he is irrelevant and leaves the race....(I'm paraphrasing but that is the gist of it) he makes me furious with his arrogance.
I still cannot believe this is what we have come down to, never in a million years would I have thought we would end up with McCain...like I posted elsewhere yesterday...I wished Allen would of run instead of quitting...macaca is nothing compared to all the BS that has gone on since....and that is just on the dem side.
Right, bt, he got a little
February 2, 2008 - 22:42 ET by motherbeltRight, bt, he got a little propping up from the media, and now he's Mr. Macho Man... telling other people they're "irrelevant."
I'm telling you, he can't keep it hidden; his nastiness is going to come out...it's starting already. And I think he's going to get ugly, as the MSM keeps inflating his ego.
The other night in the debate, he was smug and snarky even when others were talking. I can't wait, myself; I don't think he can keep his nasty streak hidden much longer.
Hey mb.... Here is a link
February 2, 2008 - 23:49 ET by bigtimerHey mb....
Here is a link that will give you some way of knowing how angry I was again at the arrogance of this man already, I heard all of this earlier today like I posted above...he really thinks he is Prez already...a legend in his own mind, with a lot of help from his back-stabbin' friends in the msm that have their own agenda down the road for him.
If I don't catch ya here, I will tomorrow or some such with this...I got to get out of here...lol!
Sort of begins to sum it up?
February 2, 2008 - 16:03 ET by drillanwrhttp://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzBlOWRmNGExMDI2Zjg4MTljYTRiYjhjMWJmMmNjYmI=
Saturday, February 02, 2008
A Different Perspective
Victor Davis Hanson
Three unexpected developments have given Republicans a shot this year at winning — once thought impossible, given the normal desire of the electorate for a fresh party after eight years, and worries about Iraq and the economy. All can change, but for now they have a real shot.
The first, of course, is the radical turnabout in Iraq. Had we been seeing over 100 dead a month, the loss of Baghdad, and a failure of the surge, McCain would be finished and his Republican rivals would have carved out a third position between Bush and the Democrats that would have been still rejected by the voters.
Second, no one anticipated the surge of Obama, and the Clintons’ overt and clumsy efforts at personal destruction that turned off even liberals — a development that explains why a McCain in theory could be palatable to disaffected Democrats and Independents. No one knows whether Thursday night’s reconciliation will last. But I doubt it, since Obama was figuring his nice guy image gained him ground, while Hillary worried that unleashing Bill and knee-capping her rival lost her percentages. But when it gets down to winning and the race narrows, each will readjust and it will get nasty again. Bill is ungovernable, and growls and gets toothy in periods of quiet and tranquility when he recedes from the news
And third, the unanticipated November implosion of Rudy Giuliani coalesced many moderate Republicans behind one candidate, the once moribund McCain, while base conservatives were never quite energized over either Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or Fred Thompson, and either diluted their support or never embraced a candidate with real passion.
It is understandable to lament the absence of conservative purity, but ahistorical to suggest that any recent Republican president would have met any of the litmus tests now demanded, given the dependency of the middle class on entitlements and its touchy-feely worldview.
Reagan, and Bush I and II all adjusted to that unfortunate reality. A Democrat did not appoint Souter, O’Connor, or Kennedy, nor raise payroll and gas taxes in the 1980s, nor sign amnesty and de facto open-border legislation in 1986, nor, later, increase federal spending well past the rate of inflation, or offer amnesty again in 2007. Tax cuts were great, but without caps on spending they were unfairly slurred as revenue reducers once deficits soared. Recent Republican congressional scandals mirror-imaged some of the Clinton-era roguery.
Reagan’s pragmatism on taxes, amnesty, new federal programs and government expansion, was continued by both Bush I and II. In that regard, McCain seems a continuum, not an abject disconnect. His problem is mostly temperament — when he strayed he was blunt about what he was doing and sometimes gratuitously offended his base in a way that neither Reagan nor the Bushes dared. That is a legitimate concern of tactical aptitude, but not one so much of ideology.
He also never was a conservative idealist that voiced conservative themes on the campaign trail which he could not enact once elected. But in terms of judicial appointments, foreign policy and the war, and federal spending, he is not much different from any of the prior three Republican presidents, and might well prove tougher, given his age and occasional contrarianism. We worry over his immigration stance, but his former mistaken position was Reaganite to the core and reflected the Bush consensus. His new stance of closing the borders first would be a radical departure, and a conservative remedy.
In short, anyone who saw the Democratic debate Thursday night can envision the new future on their horizon: identity politics and self-congratulation over race and gender; tax increases (back to estate tax hikes, income tax rates go up, payroll tax caps lifted, etc); internationalism for the sake of internationalism (defer to the U.N., E.U., apologies for past conduct, contextualizing terrorism), more government (teachers, the poor, the middle class, etc. all need new government programs to add to those we have), and legislating judges (more Ginsburgs and Breyers).
Given all of the above, I don’t think it’s in the interest of conservatives for much longer to worry about McCain’s class ranking at Annapolis or how many planes he was nearly killed in.
DrillAnwr ... excellant reference/post
February 2, 2008 - 17:03 ET by JayTeeThis Hanson guys points to the measurement that we are holding McCain to "It is understandable to lament the absence of conservative purity, but ahistorical to suggest that any recent Republican president would have met any of the litmus tests now demanded" . . .
Back off on the Screws a little, "We don't always get what we want, but we get what we Need".
We don't want McCain, but we DON"T NEED Hillary or B-HO.
JT -
February 2, 2008 - 17:32 ET by drillanwrRight, and this line:
while base conservatives were never quite energized over either Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, or Fred Thompson, and either diluted their support or never embraced a candidate with real passion.
The conservatives really are to hold a lot of the blame for this. Exactly what were they waiting/looking for? And I would add Duncan Hunter into that list ... perhaps THE most conservative one.
drillanwr
February 2, 2008 - 18:29 ET by candanceWhat were conservatives supposed to do leading up to this? We watched debates, Giuliani and McCain got all the questions and all the spotlight, Hunter and Tancredo would speak twice in a whole two-hour debate, conservatives had no chance to set them apart. MSM people and (even folks like Hannity) would drool over Giuliani day after day telling us the little guys had no chance.
Then Fred Thompson entered and everybody flocked to him, only to have him drop out after 90 days.
Combine that with how the primaries have been stacked to favor liberal states first, folks in the Bible belt had no chance to vote for anyone they liked.
I blame the media and the
February 2, 2008 - 21:07 ET by Clear thinkerI blame the media and the GOP!
But there is one other group I blame... moderate Conservatives. Many were so darn lazy they never took the time to research the real conservatives, all they did was listen to the damn media.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
→ Lazy Conservatives
February 3, 2008 - 12:00 ET by Cool ArrowIt's as if they spent precious months trying to decide what looked good on the smorgasboard and couldn't quite kick it in gear because they thought the main course was Fred Thompson.
Fred did us no favor. Thompson was bland and lifeless, leaving Conservatives with nothing but RINOs.
All that's left is Romney, and the talking heads at the top of the Republican Party seemingly would rather put their money on McCain who, time and again, has bitten them.
That's just my take. I'm not asking for agreement as it's under the bridge for the most part.
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Remember that.
February 3, 2008 - 11:45 ET by BritcomBTW Keyes is still in and wasn't even invited to the debate.
Paul, Huckabee, Keyes, and Hunter don't belong to the right club that all of the other candidates and the MSM belong to.
The name of that club is the Council on Foreign Relations (a ProGlobalist/NAU/Open borders society)
Sort of doesn't sum it up
February 2, 2008 - 20:45 ET by PopularTechAgain I could respond to why but am not allowed.
Hanson is a military historian and looking at this as falling back to the next defensible position which only works if your fallback position is occupied by your allies.
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When McCain loses the
February 2, 2008 - 16:14 ET by maggieqpublicWhen McCain loses the General Election, will he retain his Senate seat (or is he, hopefully, up for re-election)?
Juan McCain is a fools send up by the MSM
February 2, 2008 - 17:11 ET by CTJuan McCain will be as a lamb lead to slaughter by the MSM just as soon as he is the Republican Nominee. Anyone that is so credulous to believe that he has a chance is demonstrating judgment that should never be trusted. Anyone else supporting Juan McCain just has a taste for roast lamb.
A Quickie Shrub
February 2, 2008 - 18:04 ET by Roger the ShrubberA Quickie Shrub Report:
Don't get too excited about the weather, folks. Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow this morning.
Happy Candlemas, everybody. No not this Candlemass.
Speaking of metallurgy, six years ago today, Paul Baloff passed away. He was once the lead singer of Exodus, one of the best thrash metal bands ever to come out of the Bay Area. Guitarist Kirk Hammett left the band to join Metallica before "Bonded By Blood" came out. Every metalhead in the 80's owned this album.
Congrads to the latest inductees innto the NFL Hall of Fame. Maybe next year, Russ Grimm!
And, finally, all hail the new King!
Enjoyed the wing-eating
February 2, 2008 - 22:07 ET by JerEnjoyed the wing-eating contest article, but I'm a little skeptical about the credentials of some of the participants who brought up the rear.
For example, how can a 290 pound behemoth who claims to have "won a watermelon eating contest followed by a pie eating contest for weekend beer money" and whose motto is "I like to eat!" crap out after a mere 40 wings?
I have friends who'll scarf down that many for appetizers.
Jer
Um. . .
February 2, 2008 - 22:16 ET by tracheostomyBecause chicken is more dense and has less water for the body to absorb than pie and especially watermelon?
This is why my hero Takeru Kobayashi soaked his hot dogs.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Sorry, trach....but you
February 2, 2008 - 22:30 ET by JerSorry, trach....but you lost all culinary credibility when you admitted knowing absolutely nothing about how "twinkies" are made.
Besides, there was another contestant who claimed to have eaten a 76 oz. steak with salad and potato in 30 min. He couldn't get past 40 wings either.
Jer
Gentlemen, gentlemen, this
February 3, 2008 - 08:44 ET by Roger the ShrubberGentlemen, gentlemen, this debating is moot when you look at the guy who once drank Pine-Sol, haha. I was disapppointed to see how few wings those guys at the bottom ate. Eating 40 wings is something I think many of us here could do, right?
I was bummed that Lord of the Wings lost. I think he had won the past two years, and I especially liked that he ate 34 pieces of pizza...
Liberal Dream Team of McCain Huckabee must be stopped
February 2, 2008 - 18:16 ET by Daniel BakerThese two make me so ill. They each get interviews every day telling lies about Romney, and the reporters take every word as truth. The whole media establishment has adopted their lines of attack when they interview Romney.
Favorite Romney line during a press conference after biased reporter says "I represent the people, governor"
Romney: "No I represent the people. You represent the media. You're supposed to be unbiased."
Great quote!
February 2, 2008 - 18:48 ET by Gary P JacksonGreat quote!
Sure, vote for MANDATE
February 2, 2008 - 20:40 ET by Clear thinkerSure, vote for MANDATE Mitt, that's a conservative virtue. Not.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Romney is the best GOP candidate
February 2, 2008 - 18:59 ET by eucherAnd that's why I am voting for him in the VA Primary on 2/12.
I believe that Ann Coulter & Tammy Bruce and other conservative pundits are actually trying to defend the GOP, by ensuring that, if there has to be a liberal President, he or she actually is known as a Democrat so that THEIR party can suffer the consequences of a liberal presidency.
A McCain presidency would hurt the Republican party significantly. An Obama or Clinton presidency would at least put the blame for all of these liberal policies squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats. (Of course, this in part requires the media to hold them accountable, so, given the free pass the Democratic-led Congress is getting, I'm not sure this thought process isn't greatly flawed)
I'm not sure I'm willing to go there given the extent of damage a liberal President could do. This is not the same world it was when Bill Clinton took office. Weak national security could result in the death of our people on our soil. Spending would definitely go up under Hillary, versus McCain. But I do see Ann's point that it may be better to sacrifice 4 years for the long-term benefit of the conservative movement. I'm just not convinced it's worth the strength of our economy to do it, much less innocent American lives, and I fear that both of these are the price we will pay for a Democratic president.
Here is something to think about
February 3, 2008 - 11:11 ET by BritcomHistorically speaking no Senator has beaten a Governor in the GE in the last 100 years. So both Huckabee and Romney can beat either Hillary or Obama BUT, one of them has to beat McCain first.
NY Sen. Hillary and Bill Clinton (First lady, and Gov of Ark.)
Romney Gov of Mass. With his current positions on social issues he probably can't beat Hillary in the GE in New England or New York and the Old South don't know him or trust him so -2 there.
Huckabee Gov of Ark. Can win in the Old South, but can't win in the North East +1 and -1 there.
Now here is the big question who do you think is better prepared to go head to head with Hillary and Bill in the GE?
Well I think Bill and Huckabee having been born and raised in the same state, and both rising to governor in that state gives the edge to Huckabee... not now, but in the GE. We want to actually beat Hillary right, not just get a candiate that she eats for lunch. Huckabee knows Ark. politics and he has been saving all of his good punches for Bill and Hill. I am sure he won't disappoint. Also, I suspect that Huckabee will be choosing Duncan Hunter for VP, Hunter will not support Romney. Romney is going to pick Jeb Bush as his VP (I live in FL, i have this on good information) so here is your line up:
Clinton/Wes Clark (Ark.-NY/Ark.)
Vs.
McCain/Giuliani (Ariz./NY.) or
Romney/Jeb Bush (Mass./Fla.) or
Huckabee/Hunter (Ark./Calif.)
Remember First beat McCain, then Hillary
BTW if Obama wins we are going to need someone who can pull black votes in the south. Also there is possibility McCain could pick Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) for his VP.
Get out the vote...
February 2, 2008 - 19:07 ET by Airforce_5_OWe better come with every vote we can find Tuesday or I may be joining Clear Thinker on the write in for Prez. And why in the name of common sense is Huck-a-tax still hanging on? He has got to be in a plan with McLib to get a VP spot.
Your write-in would be a
February 2, 2008 - 20:38 ET by Clear thinkerYour write-in would be a welcome vote!
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Just don't do a write in a
February 3, 2008 - 02:59 ET by Gary P JacksonJust don't do a write in a candidate for the primary. Mitt Romney is jut too attractive of a candidate. He needs to be the President. I'm sitting here thinking about. Central Casting couldn't have come up with a better man to run for Office!
Huckabee hits Romney head on
February 2, 2008 - 19:58 ET by shawn228Huckabee says a vote for Romney is a vote for Hillary
"Suck it"
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Hi shawn... Just because
February 2, 2008 - 20:04 ET by bigtimerHi shawn...
Just because Huck says doesn't make it so....lol!
Watching Ann in this clip
February 2, 2008 - 20:14 ET by tracheostomyWatching Ann in this clip is like falling down the rabbit hole. If you had a crystal ball and told me this was going to happen 3 years ago, I'd have said you were crazy.
Especially the part where Alan says, "Don't interrupt her." Deep down inside, I totally loved that part.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
REASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN
February 2, 2008 - 21:18 ET by Free StinkerREASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN
I will not vote for McCain if he is the GOP nominee!
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AFA Voters' Guide
February 2, 2008 - 21:43 ET by lotrhttp://www.afa.net/pdfs/08vg.pdf
this is good. thx
February 3, 2008 - 12:43 ET by Britcom-
The saw this group's name
February 3, 2008 - 12:48 ET by Free StinkerThe saw this group's name and had one question.
AFWho ?
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http://afa.net/
February 3, 2008 - 12:58 ET byhttp://afa.net/
I already checked out their
February 3, 2008 - 13:01 ET by Free StinkerI already checked out their web page.
I wasn't impressed.
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And why is that? Too
February 3, 2008 - 21:38 ET by lotrAnd why is that? Too Christian? Too conservative?
Has Anne Coulter become a Socialist?
February 2, 2008 - 21:54 ET by johnbarryIf Anne Coulter votes for Hillary Clinton she is voting for a Socialist. She is voting for open borders. She is voting for driving licences for illegals. She is voting for Hillarycare. She is voting for partial birth abortion. She is no longer a conservative.
Socialist = High Taxes
Socialist=Social Medicine.
Some conservative elements in the GOP are hell bent on self destruction. They have adopted the motto "Cut off your nose to spite your face."
Elect Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama ar your peril. Either would probably be re-elected. So the GOP could be without the Presidency for at least eight years.
There is evidence that McCain is reaching out to the right. Please give the man a chance.
For Anne Coulter it may be a case of voting in haste for Hillary and repenting at leisure. Those whom the gods destroy, they first make mad. Those who aid or abet the election of Hillary Clinton are working intentionally or untentionally to promote Socialism.
The GOP increasingly resembles the British Conservative Party at the time of John Major's premiership. The party tore itself asunder on abstract ideological discussions. It lost power to the Labour Party in 1997. It has lost the last three general elections. It has never recovered. A lesson for the GOP
john barry?
February 2, 2008 - 22:02 ET by candanceThere is evidence that McCain is reaching out to the right. Please give the man a chance.
ROFPMSL!!
Giving a speech about global warming after Arnold Schwarzeneggar endorsed him - the day after he won Florida - yeah that's really reaching out to the Right.
The guy who called Christian ministers "agents of intolerance" and wants Roe v Wade to stay in place -- all the sudden he needs the Right to win so he's pretending to reach out?
Too little too late.
Climate change is now a
February 2, 2008 - 22:13 ET by lotrClimate change is now a mainstream issue, and global warming is an observed phenomenon that cares not about what political lens you use to view it.
lotr, get with the program, it's "climate change" not AGW
February 2, 2008 - 22:22 ET by upcountrywaterOTHERWISE how could one explain away, snow in Baghdad. When was the last time you heard about trains getting stuck in SNOW. 5th. snow storm in Hawaii. Don't forget about 67F below ZERO
Global warming means things warm up ! Call me back when it hits 120F in Omaha.
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
4 (unthinkable) H-bombs, NOW THAT'S SOME CHANGE
<all computer screens are now blank & b
The term "climate" refers
February 3, 2008 - 21:47 ET by lotrThe term "climate" refers to the long-term (30 years or more) mean. Things are warming up, in a mean sense. All datasets that I know of show a warming trend.
The policy question, i.e., the one concerning politicians, is a matter of "what action, if any, is warranted, given what we know now?" I happen to believe that draconian measures are completely unwarranted. But we do need to get our act together to meet tomorrow's energy needs -- increased R&D should be a priority among conservatives.
ROFL
February 3, 2008 - 09:36 ET by Britcom-
Dear John. . .
February 2, 2008 - 22:10 ET by tracheostomyAfter some thought about this, I think this is feint of desperation on Coulter's part. Based on her frequently vocal opposition to Bill Clinton in any way, shape, and form, I don't believe she would honestly assist getting him and Hillary back into the White House.
Rather, I think this is an aggressive; last-ditch PR maneuver to get the GOP to nominatee Romney.
And to sell her new book. =)
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Is John McCain a Socialist or just a Democrat?
February 2, 2008 - 22:10 ET by PopularTechMcCain Would Sign Amnesty Bill as President (Video)
McCain: Same-sex marriage ban is un-Republican (CNN)
McCain: For and Against Tax Cuts (Video)
McCain to Close Gitmo: "The first day I am President" (Video)
Scientifically Illiterate McCain vows to fight global warming (The Boston Globe)
Sources affirm McCain dissed Alito (WorldNetDaily)
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PT, and the, ahh, difference is, exactly, what?
February 2, 2008 - 22:18 ET by R D HelmLol.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
The Difference
February 2, 2008 - 22:22 ET by PopularTechA Democrat uses socialism to advance their political power and create a ruling class. Socialists really want socialism.
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PT, I know, as I was actually gleefully agreeing with you here.
February 2, 2008 - 22:46 ET by R D HelmSocialists really want socialism.
Which is why they must be defeated.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Since when does a
February 2, 2008 - 23:15 ET by Airforce_5_OSince when does a Republican have to reach out to the right?
WHEN HE IS A FREAKING LIBERAL!!!!!
Come your killing me here.
AF 50 ROF
February 2, 2008 - 23:19 ET byLMAO
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
It's called sarcasm, folks
February 2, 2008 - 21:33 ET by lotrIt's called sarcasm, folks -- a talent she's well known for.
I'm not even going to watch
February 2, 2008 - 21:37 ET by balboaI'm not even going to watch the clip and just say "intentionally provocative." Look who we're talking about.
McCain "Straight Talk": Pull out of Somalia in 1993
February 2, 2008 - 22:25 ET by PopularTechMcCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia (Video)
War Leader?
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So I guess he wanted to
February 3, 2008 - 11:21 ET by motherbeltSo I guess he wanted to turn tail and leave too. At the end he says of Beirut "240 Marines lost their lives. But we got out." (emphasis added).
I agree...War Leader?
Ya think???????
If Romney is not on the ticket
February 2, 2008 - 22:34 ET by DelsaIf Romney is not our nominee, I will write him in as my presidential choice.
I Pray we are very pleased on Tuesday. We need enough wins to go another round.
Go Romney. Don't worry. Ann Coulter will Not vote for Hill but she will write Romney in.
Gay Republicans Flock To McCain: Ut-Oh Huckabee Supporters
February 3, 2008 - 01:02 ET by PopularTechMcCain:
Gay Republicans Flock To McCain (The New York Sun)
Christian Leader James Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy (WorldNetDaily)
"I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that. I don't have any problem with that." - John McCain
McCain: Same-sex marriage ban is un-Republican (CNN)
Compared to Romney:
Romney: "Marriage is Between a Man and a Woman" (Video) (1min)
Romney Fights For Marriage Vote (Video) (3min)
2003 - Massachusetts Governor Vows to Pursue Marriage Amendment (USAToday)
2004 - Romney Urges Constitutional Ban on Same Sex Marriage (USAToday)
One Man, One Woman (The Wall Street Journal)
Romney Announces Abstinence Education Program (Boston News)
If Romney was the true Pro-Gay Republican as you have been led to believe why would they not be going to him? Here it comes!
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But Huckabee told me Romney can't be trusted only McCain can
February 3, 2008 - 01:18 ET by Daniel BakerA self proclaimed "Christian leader" couldn't be wrong could he?
Boycott
February 3, 2008 - 13:02 ET by mikebromoAll "Christian leaders" both conservative and liberal!
Great website. Will
February 3, 2008 - 02:25 ET by Gary P JacksonGreat website.
Will someone answer me this. The news keep saying Romney has 50 something points. But this website, and CNN's show Mitt With 74. McCain has 97, and Gomer Pyle has 29, which aught to mean the SOB is dropping out. Why are Barnes and Mort on their Beltway Boys show giving out the wrong point count? They did the same on the Wall Street Journal show on Fox. They were rooting for McCain, and dissin' Romney.
With all of the disinformation out there, it's no wonder Mitt Romney is low in the polls. Looking at the delegate count, Romney is right on Johnny Boy's tail! Mike Huckabee is like they guy with a shovel and a pail, who trails the parade!
We need to start a movement. We need to start the Alice's Restaurant anti-massacre movement!!! (man it's been a long day!) Seriously, we need to get energized and attend Goober's campaign rallies just so we can heckle him for staying in the race, and screwing Romney. I know I will hit anything that comes our way.
There has been something
February 3, 2008 - 02:38 ET by Captain RepusThere has been something beyond strange going on with most of the media and, to my surprise, very much so with Fox of putting down Romney, misrepresenting numerous things about him and pumping up John Keating5 McCain for quite a while now.
I cannot for the life of me understand just what is going on here, but if the result of all this is the nomination of McCain I am done with Fox news and the Republican party as well. I will definitely re-register as an Independent and discontinue any and all support of the Republican party. After the total mess they have made of governing for the past 13 years in congress and 7 years in the White House, then to force this moronic RINO on us is just too much for this long standing member of the party.
In the meantime, I am doing everything in my power to convince everybody I talk with to go with Romney on Tuesday to try to stop this madness, but I fear my efforts are going to be wasted.
Murdock is an immigrant
February 3, 2008 - 09:17 ET by Britcomcame from Australia i believe.
Beat you to it...
February 3, 2008 - 09:36 ET by masslibertarianWhen I moved behind enemy lines to Massachusetts recently, I registered to vote as "unenrolled" for the same reason.
If calling myself a "Republican" puts me on the side of the bridge to nowhere congress that spent like drunken sailors on shore leave or our open borders president, count me out.
No, Romney isn't the perfect conservative. But he's the closest thing to it in this race by far, and I will vote for him on Tuesday.
HELLO! Mitt Romney at 30% tied with Juan McCain at 30%
February 3, 2008 - 07:28 ET by PopularTechMitt Romney 30%, Juan McCain 30%, The Huckster 21% (Rasmussen)
Why is the MSM not reporting this?
Romney leads by sixteen percentage points among conservatives while McCain has a two-to-one advantage among moderate Primary Voters.
Hello!
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→ Great news
February 3, 2008 - 07:39 ET by Cool ArrowI hope it's correct. This part makes me wonder though:
Do they (finally) take a representative sample of cellphone users rather than almost exclusively land line? If not, isn't the more technically knowledgeable young demographic ignored?
Three members of my immediate family have cellphones, and NEVER are they polled for their opinions.
I don't think it's the youth of America supporting McCain. Maybe the results are even better than reported.
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Wow, Huckabee is Surging Again...
February 3, 2008 - 09:01 ET by BritcomDate...............Huckabee Romney McCain
02/02/08.........21%.........30%.......30%
02/01/08.........21%.........28%.......30%
01/31/08.........19%.........28%.......30%
01/30/08.........19%.........29%.......27%
01/29/08.........18%.........29%.......27%
01/28/08.........16%.........28%.......26%
Source: Rasmussen
Why Do Huckabee Supporters Want to Fight Global Warming?
February 3, 2008 - 09:06 ET by PopularTechI don't understand why you want to pay higher energy prices? Came you please explain.
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Ok, I'll bite, give me the list.
February 3, 2008 - 09:11 ET by BritcomPersonally I know Global Warming is a UN Sponsored "Nigeria" Scam.
Can You Answer the Question
February 3, 2008 - 09:13 ET by PopularTechI am interested in knowing why you want to fight global warming?
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Nope, can't answer that question...
February 3, 2008 - 12:32 ET by Britcombecause the Earth is having a normal climate cycle.
Sucker Al Gore Supporters Voted for McCain in Florida!
February 3, 2008 - 09:05 ET by PopularTechI knew it - Goddamn Al Gore! All these brainwashed idiots voted for him.
Environmentalists Support McCain in Florida (CNSNews)
"McCain's biggest margin of support came from those who said the environment should be the top issue for the next president. Among these voters, McCain beat Romney 55 percent to 15 percent."
Send everyone you know these links:
1. Censored Global Warming Videos (Videos)
2. NO 'Consensus' on "Man-Made" Global Warming
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Is she being serious, or intentionally provocative?
February 3, 2008 - 11:04 ET by MPCPianoThis is Ann being very provocative to illustrate how liberal John McCain is, point by point.
And she gets her point across. Everyone else is saying "I don't know what I will do" if McCain becomes the Republican nominee.
If McCain is going to do
February 3, 2008 - 12:31 ET by Free StinkerIf McCain is going to do the same things as Hillary, we should vote for Hillary.
At least then, when we run a Conservative in 2012 the GOP wont be blamed for all the numerous policy failures.
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Did you change your mind fs?
February 3, 2008 - 13:08 ET by shawn228Didn't you say we need to vote for whoever the nominee is even if it is McCain?
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If I did say that, then I
February 3, 2008 - 13:22 ET by Free StinkerIf I did say that, then I have changed my mind.
The only issue I thought he would be good on - Iraq - won't chnage with Hillary or Obama in.
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Shawn
February 3, 2008 - 16:30 ET by candanceSeveral months ago if you had asked me about McCain I might have said yes.
However in the past few weeks he has shown himself to be a liar, a cheat, and a backstabber. Instead of backing off his amnesty plan, he begrudgingly says "those people" insist on building a fence first. Instead of admitting he was wrong about the tax cuts, he lies about his reason for opposing them. Instead of giving Romney credit for his economy plan, he plays class warfare by saying military men aren't in it for the profit - as if it's somehow wrong to be a good businessman.
When McCain won in Florida every pundit in America advised him to shift to the Right to unite the party. What does he do? The next day he accepts an endorsement from Arnold Schwarzenneggar and gives a speech about global warming.
Back in October when Free wrote that, a lot of Republicans were hoping that if McCain came back he would be humble enough to ask for our help and be respectful toward the other candidates. But he is acting out of arrogance, pushing the far Right away from him, lying about Romney the night before a primary, and basically daring conservatives to vote against him.
Hi candance,
February 3, 2008 - 16:49 ET by shawn228Hi candance,
I'm just very surprised by freestinkers complete 180 on this. The thread that I linked to he emphasized how Republicans need to unite against Hillary no matter who the nominee is. Don't get me wrong I am just not saying he is a flip flopper, I am just surprised
In fact I am very surprised by many members of NB. Seems many will not vote at all if McCain is the nominee. Don't conservatives care if Hillary appoints Liberal judges to the SCOTUS? At least a 4 yr setback for overturning Roe V Wade? Fairness Doctrine?
No worries though according to Pop Techs math, the msm polls are not correct and McCain will be defeated this Tuesday.
"Suck it"
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shawn
February 3, 2008 - 17:00 ET by candanceDon't conservatives care if Hillary appoints Liberal judges to the SCOTUS? At least a 4 yr setback for overturning Roe V Wade? Fairness Doctrine?
This right here is the very crux of the issue. McCain is making no effort to reach out to the Right or befriend conservatives because he assumes we'll be so scared of Hillary we'll be broken into submission.
It's like an abusive husband who knows he can keep beating his wife because she's afraid of being homeless. McCain is abusing the GOP and then daring us to abandon the vote.
We expected him to at least try to make nice with conservatives but he's not even trying. That is the difference. When he runs around saying Alito is a bad judge, Al Qaeda deserves consitutional rights, and we should all sacrifice for the environment, how is he any different from the Clintons?
candance... I thought you
February 3, 2008 - 17:09 ET by bigtimercandance...
I thought you might be interested on McCain's response today on Fox with Wallace about the SC judges...this is just the transcript...they may have a link to a video by now..but scroll down and you can see he is working on the conservatives now with his answers.
Plain and simple as that...
bigtimer
February 3, 2008 - 17:27 ET by candanceHe he yeah, watch him reach out to the right by saying "we need conservative - er, I mean, strictly legalistic judges." Nice acting.
And I love how he says he's ready to debate Hillary head on, but as soon as Wallace brings up the economy he backs off and says he's not ready to debate her.
cd.... Acting indeed!
February 3, 2008 - 17:32 ET by bigtimercd....
Acting indeed!
Well Candance
February 3, 2008 - 17:19 ET by shawn228That woman was never married to McCain in the first place. In fact that woman had a choice between 5 husbands. Seems that woman didn't like Thompson, Hunter or Tancredo. Like it or not that woman that might be marrying McCain will be for better or worse for the republican party.
Those are the cards you are dealt and if you want to fold and let your opponen win, so be it.
"Suck it"
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Attention Anti-McCain
February 3, 2008 - 18:07 ET by JerAttention Anti-McCain Conservatives:
The message from Brit Hume and Bill Kristol on FNS was "Quit whining...you bear much of the blame".
Apparently, you waited too long to rally around a perfectly viable conservative--Mitt Romney--and now it is too little, too late. While waiting for the "next Reagan" to materialize, and rejecting Romney, you allowed McCain to come back from the dead, and develop a momentum which is now unstoppable. The game is over. He will be the nominee.
--My prediction is that many of you who insist you will never vote for McCain will have a change of heart by November. While candidates generally appeal directly to the base during the primaries and tack toward the center as the nominee, McCain will do the reverse. Although he had staked out conservative positions before he announced his candidacy, his support has primarily come from moderate conservatives, liberal Rebuplicans, and independents. Once the nomination is secured, however, he will make a determined effort to establish and strengthen ties with the conservative base. [I predict one of his first stops will be an appearance on Limbaugh's show to emphasize his conservative credentials and demonstrate that he wants and needs conservatives to join with him to stop the Clintons from retaking the White House, appointing liberal judges, and socializing health care. If Obama is his opponent, McCain will stress his (Obama's) inexperience, his "extremely liberal" voting record, and his dangerous naivte with respect to national security and war on terror issues.]
And the national polls indicate McCain has an excellent chance of winning...much better than Romney.
Jer
Jer... So your point
February 3, 2008 - 18:15 ET by bigtimerJer...
So your point is.....?
Wait a second..I know...it somehow makes your day!
bt...then you missed my
February 3, 2008 - 18:34 ET by Jerbt...then you missed my point. I've said here many times I don't want the Clintons back in the White House, and was prepared to vote for candidates even more conservative than McCain to ensure it.
McCain was my "last choice", but I would still consider him if Hillary were the nominee.
So what is your point?
Jer
hi bt
February 3, 2008 - 19:03 ET by shawn228Wow surfing Newsbusters, eating a foot long, and watching the game on a high definition big screent, does not get any better than this :-)
I cannot speak for Jer but it certainly does not make my day. Speaking as a some what Liberal. I have heard lots of comments like I can't wait to see the look in you traitorous lefist when you lose in 08 election. I for one think it feels like a very empty victory.
Basically admitting defeat if not the right person gets the nomination is actually pretty sad. What will the tone be like on this site if McCain gets the nomination. Will the focus of this site more shift to getting back congress?
"Suck it"
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The Clinton Gambit
February 4, 2008 - 10:20 ET by Edward LeeI think it's likely that Clinton's promise to champaign for Hillary if McCain wins the nomination is a brilliant "gambit". This refers to a strategy of given some ground to you opponent in order to secure a longer term greater gain elsewhere. I find it very difficult to believe that she would actually want Hillary to win over McCain. Her intent may be to get people to think, "Gosh, if Anne really dislikes McCain that much, maybe I'd better give Romney a closer look", thereby helping Romney win the primary (it worked on me, btw!). The political cost of this, however, is that if McCain wins anyway, she'll have to march around for a bit in mock support of Hillary. She'll probably portray it in the same manner as someone who lost a bet and has to paint him/hershelf blue for a day.