With Hillary Clinton receiving the most popular votes during the Nevada caucuses Saturday, it seems a metaphysical certitude media members will crown her the victor.
However, due to apportioning rules, Barack Obama actually won more delegates.
Which will get more attention from press members in the next 24 hours?
While you ponder, Obama made the following statement at his website moments ago:
We're proud of the campaign we ran in Nevada. We came from over twenty-five points behind to win more national convention delegates than Hillary Clinton because we performed well all across the state, including rural areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled.
The Associated Press confirmed Obama's statement moments ago (emphasis added):
Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama split the spoils in the Nevada caucuses Saturday night, a race marred by late charges of dirty politics. John McCain and Mike Huckabee dueled for victory in a hard-fought Republican primary in South Carolina.
"I guess this is how the West was won," Clinton told cheering supporters in Las Vegas. She captured the popular vote, but Obama edged her out for national convention delegates at stake, taking 13 to her 12.
Despite this being reported by AP, do you imagine this little distinction getting a lot of attention in the days to come?
Or how about the following statement made by Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe:
We currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early, registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to the Clinton campaign's efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week's worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself.
Along with Obama's delegate victory, will these allegations receive much media attention?
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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Delicious irony
January 19, 2008 - 21:11 ET by nkviking75Given how Democrats whined when Gore won the popular vote but lost the presidency because Bush won the Electoral College, I'm savoring the irony of Hillary winning the popular vote in Nevada but losing to Obama in the number of delegates.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Remember New Hampshire?
January 19, 2008 - 21:17 ET by scamoramaConsidering that both got 9 delegates in New Hampshire, but Clinton "won", I doubt that we'll hear anything about this charade either.
Chavez Clinton
January 19, 2008 - 21:31 ET by Lame CherryThis is honestly amusing in Hillary is like Chavez......... they cheat and still end up loosing.
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Gee, I wonder how many
January 19, 2008 - 21:32 ET by Jack BauerGee, I wonder how many Casino waitresses Bill had to sleep with to swing the union vote!
I'll always think of her as the Comeback Harpie.
Simple
January 19, 2008 - 22:12 ET by Del DolemonteThe size of the bags under Bubbah's eyes, multiplied by 27, will give you the answer.
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Del -- my gosh you are so
January 20, 2008 - 09:09 ET by Jack BauerDel -- my gosh you are so right.
Forget Rush's comments about whether the American people want to see a female President visibly aging before our eyes...
How about the ex-President? I was looking a photos of Clinton leaving office. He didn't look too bad.
But he has aged MASSIVELY in the past seven, as opposed to the time he was in the Oval oriffice (that's the corect spelling, right?)
We all know what he's been up too, but to that extent? He's making Keith Richard look good.
I agree...I've said it
January 20, 2008 - 09:14 ET by motherbeltI agree...I've said it before...the man is not aging well.
He reminds me of Patrick Swayze...the guy was a hunk back in his "Dirty Dancing" days...have you seen him lately?
Some men, like some women, simply do not age well.
Bill Clinton is one of those. Frankly, I never could understand women who thought he was "hunky" before, but now I find him really unattractive.
He looks like the Pillsbury
January 20, 2008 - 09:23 ET by Jack BauerHe looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy with Karl Malden's nose grafted on.
And apart from the purple blotches, the rest of him looks so pasty white... maybe it's those harsh TV lights.
→ Hey Jack
January 20, 2008 - 09:26 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe ther're using those Earth friendly fluorescent bulbs that are so flattering.
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the rest of him looks so
January 20, 2008 - 10:51 ET by motherbeltthe rest of him looks so pasty white...maybe it's those harsh TV lights.
Nah, it's him. Back when he was first elected, and used to go out jogging around DC in shorts, David Letterman had running gag for months about his "pasty white thighs." LOL
But you gotta admit...he's not "doughboy" material any more...he HAS slimmed down.
Oh well
January 19, 2008 - 21:48 ET by jay_1975As of today, Hillary has about 90 more delegates than Obama. Let her win the nomination. I have seen so many reports of Democrats that refuse to vote for Hillary as much as I see Republicans and Independents who will vote just to vote against her. She can win the nomination for all I care, just so long as she doesn't win the White House.
On MSNBC tonight they've
January 19, 2008 - 22:07 ET by Brad WilmouthOn MSNBC tonight they've talked some about whether Obama or Hillary will win more delegates in Nevada despite Hillary's popular vote win.
Spades Work
January 20, 2008 - 00:56 ET by ShaftBigScoreIf I recall correctly, didn't Sen. Clinton say that Sen Obama has not done "the spades work"? It looks like Obama is winning some delgates with the "spades work". The racist and elitist media want Hillary to win the nomination and the White House.
If Fred Thompson or Rommney would have said a "Spades Work" about Obama; the dynamic jive-time hustlers Jessie and Al would have come out of the woodworks. Thompson/Rommney would have been forced to the MTV and BET tour seeking sympathy from African Americans. They also would have been guest stars on Snoop Dog's show and Oprah seeking African American approval. How does she get a pass on that statement?
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We currently have reports
January 20, 2008 - 07:42 ET by motherbeltWe currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at
caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early,
registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being
requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to
the Clinton campaign's efforts to confuse voters and call into question
the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at
these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of
an entire week's worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead
caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself.-Obama campaign.
Will these allegations receive much media attention?
Nah. They're too busy reporting on Bill Clinton's claim that he "personally witnessed voter suppression."
Believe it or not, the NY
January 20, 2008 - 08:42 ET by motherbeltBelieve it or not, the NY Times does mention it at the top of the story.
But they play up Clinton's numbers victory and make sure to mention the "weighting" of the votes as the reason for Obama's delegate edge (emphasis added):
Mrs. Clinton scored a clear victory measured in the number of people
attending the caucuses on her behalf. But Mr. Obama’s campaign was
successful by another measure — in the allocation of delegates to the
national nominating convention, a result of a complex formula that gave
more weight to votes in some parts of the state.
And guess whose "victory" picture they have across 3 columns.....
mother -- Lady McClinton v
January 20, 2008 - 08:54 ET by Jack Bauermother -- Lady McClinton v McCain was for a long time the MSM pick.
Then it imploded. Now that scenario seems back on track as a possibility that leads, of course.
Just the Obama gaining MORE delegate than Hair Majesty, Romney got more delegates out of Nevada than did McCain in SC.
It's getting more surreal watching the coverage.
The Washington Times today
January 20, 2008 - 08:59 ET by motherbeltThe Washington Times today has coverage of the spat between the Obama and Clinton camps too....here and here ......
More fun to follow....You bring the popcorn, I'll bring the duct tape!
Casino workers, maids and
January 20, 2008 - 09:19 ET by Jack BauerSure, and I wonder how many of those were not citizens?
You'll note that NOBODY is asking a simple question...
How come the members of a Union which endorsed a candidate, voted for the other "person."
I have no idea of how much weight a union endorsement carries, but maybe Latinos are not enthusiastic voting for the black guy, for oh -- racist reasons.
Just a question.
→ Ya think?
January 20, 2008 - 09:24 ET by Cool ArrowThere is that little dynamic most people won't talk about. I wasn't gonna mention it since I haven't seen any animosity between these ethnic groups down here in Texas.
I also have some ocean front property for sale. Don't hardly get to Arizona anymore.
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cool -- isn't it fun to be
January 20, 2008 - 09:28 ET by Jack Bauercool -- isn't it fun to be directing these "unfair" questions and innuendo to Democrats for a change?
→ Yes, Jack
January 20, 2008 - 09:39 ET by Cool ArrowEspecially when those Dems are so inclusive and cuddly with their Kumbaya campfire singing.
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I think union endorsements
January 20, 2008 - 09:30 ET by motherbeltI think union endorsements don't carry nearly as much weight as politicians like to think.
The union rank-and-file get their dues taken and used in ways they many times don't like. (For instance, even though it's not relevant in this case, a lot of union members are Republicans, not Democrats, like the leaders; and the leaders decide who to donate to.)
My point is that the union bigwigs can"endorse" whomever they want, but they can't control what the members actually do.
I won't speculate on why they voted for Clinton over Obama. Who knows?
→ Not really, MB
January 20, 2008 - 09:44 ET by Cool ArrowI could be wrong, but isn't a "caucus" an event where you gather in groups to decide a singular finding? Lots of room for browbeating in a caucus.
If anybody knows more about the process, I'd appreciate correction.
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You may be right..(I may be
January 20, 2008 - 21:53 ET by motherbeltYou may be right..(I may be crazy..). I don't know a lot about the process either.
My explanation holds for the general election, though, with the secret ballot.
(Edited at 20:52 for a minor correction which doesn't affect the gist of the post)
The unsurprising Clinton
January 20, 2008 - 12:08 ET by Uncle JohnThe unsurprising Clinton campaign voter fraud, disenfranchisement, and total lack of MSM interest aside, I don't think that little cartoon body under Barry Obama's head looks "black enough". Are we sure it's "down for the struggle"?