A funny thing happens if you Google the name of one of America's leading conservative magazines: a warning comes up stating, "This site may harm your computer."
Think I'm kidding?
A screen-capture of the first page of Google web search results for "American Spectator" follows, although readers are strongly encouraged to investigate for themselves (image is blurry due to space constraints):
If you click on the link "This site may harm your computer," the following explanation appears:
Why do some of my search results say "This site may harm your computer?"
We want our users to feel safe when they search the web, and we're continuously working to identify dangerous sites and increase protection for our users. This warning message appears with search results we've identified as sites that may install malicious software on your computer:
If you click the title of the result, you'll be shown the following warning rather than being taken immediately to the webpage in question:
You can choose to continue to the site at your own risk. However, please be aware that malicious software is often installed without your knowledge or permission when you visit these sites, and can include programs that delete data on your computer, steal personal information such as passwords and credit card numbers, or alter your search results. For more information on these types of sites, please visit StopBadware.org
If one of these sites downloads malicious software onto your computer, please read our additional information about reporting these sites and removing the software from your system.
If you're the administrator of a site we've identified with this warning message, please visit the instructions found in our Webmaster Help Center.
Fascinating, wouldn't you agree? Think this is just a coincidence, and plenty of top-rated liberal websites have the same warning?
Reporting from suddenly stormy southern Florida putting my vacation on temporary hold for your benefit. :-)
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


















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Does the AS put malware on
December 28, 2007 - 16:42 ET by Dan The Man 2Does the AS put malware on your computer? Perhaps they consider a cookie malware? Does this happen at any other sites? Inquiring minds want to know.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
i just went there
December 28, 2007 - 16:48 ET by thefirstjustini went to google and did the search. couldn't get on the site. seems like they have successfully found a way to block "harmful" conservative perspective.
I couldn't get on the site either
December 28, 2007 - 16:55 ET by kgI couldn't get on the site either.
Isn't Google pushing their agenda a bit too far nowadays?
Blocked
December 28, 2007 - 16:55 ET by MentalrushYeah, I went there too, and the only way I could carry on was to cut & paste the address. Funny, they say you can continue on at your own risk, yet they won't let you. Liberals know what's best for you, after all.
“It isn’t that liberals are ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so” – Ronald Reagan
Google or Someone else?
December 28, 2007 - 16:53 ET by MentalrushNot to defend Google, since I woldn't put it past them, but it seems more likely to me someone has either created false reports (I'm not sure how these things get initiated) to interrupt AS, or someone has hacked a bot onto their site for remote dispensation of malware (in which case, there actually was malware being downloaded from AS, just not with their permission or knowledge). I found on some of the free blogs like Multiply and Yahoo 360 that hackers seem to like targeting conservative/republican oriented blogs for such attacks. Keep in mind the users are likely conservative, so they are being targeted as well as the site itself.
“It isn’t that liberals are ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so” – Ronald Reagan
Google - American Spectator search
December 28, 2007 - 17:04 ET by River CityI didn't have any trouble replicating the results. I typed in 'american spectator', all lower case (without the quote marks I use here). It came up as the first item, but in blue, not red just like it shows in the screen cap. American Spectator should contact them immediately and have it removed or make them prove it.
"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco
I Googled Time and Newsweek
December 28, 2007 - 16:56 ET by rimskyI Googled Time and Newsweek and there was no such warning. I also Googled National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Washington Times, and Commentary, each time with no warning. So what do they think is wrong with TAS?
Noel, this could potentially be dangerous
December 28, 2007 - 16:59 ET by RJI couldn't get onto AS either.
How did you learn of this? Any idea if it's being challenged or if it's happening to other sites?
Does Google rely on internal or outside reports? If outside, how does Google block possible malicious reporting?
tin foil protection
December 28, 2007 - 16:59 ET by wizardjrwill my computer be safe if its wearing a tinfoil hat too?
What's even better, if you
December 28, 2007 - 17:08 ET by Gary P JacksonWhat's even better, if you scroll down, you'll see "theamericanspectator" (www.americanspectato...) a "parody" site.
Sure looks like Google is trying to muddy the waters!
Guess what I got as the last site on the first page?
December 28, 2007 - 17:56 ET by AJSHOPEThe very last site on the first page of results when I searched it was Media Matters... Again, can they make their agenda any more clear?
McAfee Site Advisor
December 28, 2007 - 17:21 ET by rdw1961McAfee Site Advisor gives A/S a clean bill of health. Less than one pop-up and all secondary links are green also.
Open DNS
December 28, 2007 - 19:14 ET by viluzionOpen DNS doesn't have a problem with it either. I think it's safe to say the site is fine and the error is with Google.
I think it's safe to say
December 28, 2007 - 20:26 ET by CortillaenI think it's safe to say there was no error made; simply a blatent attempt to keep people away from sites conflicting with google's owners' ideology.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
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I just emailed them to voice
December 28, 2007 - 17:31 ET by Sonny LykosI just emailed them to voice my opinion about the childish act. Typical of liberals who live in an adult body.
What do they care?
December 29, 2007 - 11:38 ET by WoodyMI emailed Goodgle, also. I said that they should separate their politics from their jobs and that I would only expect this type of censorship in China. Oh, that'll scare them. Liberals just can't help themselves. To them, everything is about politics, and they don't care what anyone else thinks.
No such problem using
December 28, 2007 - 17:43 ET by JerryNo such problem using Ask.com, a good alternative to Google without the biases.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Yeah, I've been using AltaVista for years.
December 28, 2007 - 17:50 ET by RJStill, this needs to be investigated. It's dangerous.
Dogpile works fine
December 28, 2007 - 17:54 ET by OldSailor88I removed google from my search options last week. I also emailed them today and let them know that we now know their game. It probably won't help, but it felt good.
Ecce potestas casei!
Reporting from suddenly
December 28, 2007 - 18:14 ET by dscottReporting from suddenly stormy southern Florida putting my vacation on temporary hold for your benefit. :-)
So are you going to visit Blonde in South Florida? Stop by my place too. And don't forget Sarc either.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.
Seems all right to McAffee
December 28, 2007 - 18:50 ET by Republican_by_DefaultJust this morning I was advising an Internet customer that he should
keep his political leanings off of his site if he wanted to avoid
trouble from Google and have his site climb in rankings.
Here's a link to McAffee's SiteAdvisor information on spectator.org
http://www.siteadvis...
You picked the Specator
December 28, 2007 - 19:48 ET by airedaletwoYou picked the Specator Magazine site out of England which isn't the same as the American Spectator. Do the search on American Spectator and you come up with 3 choices two of which are fine (.net and .org extensions) but the one that ends in .com has a warning. The URL is: http://www.siteadvis.... The warning is: "When we browsed this site we received a few pop-ups, along with a prompt to change our home page to netster.com." The correct one for the magazine is americanspectator.net. The .com entitiy is registered to REIT.com The .net address is registered by Network Solutions which is an internet registry service. It looks like someone at REIT (National Association of Real Estate Investment Trusts bought the AmericanSpecator.com address to make money on referals to other magazines (I visited the site using Firefox -- no problem). The .org site doesn't have a warning but it's a liberal blog. Again someone trying to pick up hits, etc by misdirected traffic. and tick off conservatives.
If you want the magazine just use .net
actually,
December 28, 2007 - 20:06 ET by dervishThe American Spectator's website is www.spectator.org. 'Tain't a liberal website by a long stretch. (Note the "Crybaby Kerry Clock" upper right.)
just out of curiosity,
December 28, 2007 - 20:10 ET by dervishI had to go see what "spectator.net" was. Now I have to put my computer through the wash. You've been warned, eh?
What? That goes to a dead site
December 28, 2007 - 20:22 ET by PopularTechI checked out that URL and it goes to dead site with nothing on it. Here is the page code:
<html>
<head>
<title>spectator.net</title>
<META NAME='KEYWORDS' CONTENT="">
<META NAME='DESCRIPTION' CONTENT="spectator">
<frameset><frame src='http://landing.domainsponsor.com/?a_id=1148&domainname=spectator.net' frameborder='0' frameborder='no'></frameset>
</head><body>
</body></html>
Like I said nothing.
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well,
December 28, 2007 - 20:33 ET by dervishI didn't want to do them the favor of a link. You have to "wwwDOTspectatorDOTnet."
Going directly to the home page is actually fairly innocuous; I first followed the link through Google and wound up on a content page.
What are you talking about? He has the right site
December 28, 2007 - 20:24 ET by PopularTechThat URL has nothing to do with anything. The American Spectator URL is: http://www.spectator.org/
Do a GOOGLE SEARCH, do not type in the URL! In the Google Search box type:
"American Spectator"
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Do not trust site reviews from sites like Siteadvisor
December 28, 2007 - 20:30 ET by PopularTechThose reviews are based on user submitted reviews which are meaningless. Unfortunately there is no good way to check a site except to go to it, download the site code and look through it. A site can be clean one day and infected the next or visa-versa.
Huckabee: Get Rid of Gitmo
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-
December 29, 2007 - 00:12 ET by dahliatraversA site can be clean one day and infected the next or visa-versa.
Good point.
(Unlike, for example, computer models "proving" AGW, which are clean and error-free ...)
Google Needs to have their ass Sued
December 28, 2007 - 20:19 ET by PopularTechThis is not mistake or an accident. Google is deliberately filtering the site and slandering it with false accusations of it being dangerous. I don't care if this is a software bug (I highly doubt it but that is what they will claim). The American Spectator needs to sue Google for libel and loss of business revenue. Google needs to be held accountable for this otherwise they will do this to other sites and simply claim "ooops the filtering software had a bug" - my ass.
The correct website is www.spectator.org
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They should be sued
December 29, 2007 - 01:29 ET by well99This is bs.
It would appear that the
December 28, 2007 - 23:09 ET by Marc SheppardIt would appear that the G-Spot qualifies search engine return domains through a third-party database (StopBadware.org) of known “badware” (their sophomoric term for malware) sites and that Spectator.org is somehow listed among its violators – hence the block. A quick trip to the SB site identifies a code “yellow” attribution for AS, which they define as “One or more StopBadware partners are reporting badware behavior on this site.”
In other words, ANYONE can lodge a complaint and StopBadWare subscribers will shoot first (flag the site) and ask questions later. In this case, it was Google, itself that reported it had “found that some portion of spectator.org/ contains or links to badware or otherwise violates Google's software guidelines.” While this does seem to mimic Google News’ lame approach to so-called “hate site” complaints, the search engine behemoth’s intentions may – read that may – be chaste in this case.
After all -- the concept is far from unprecedented. Open relay databases are still used by some ISPs in an effort to thwart spammer exploitation of flaws inherent to the SMTP email protocol. You may have experienced an e-mail bounceback or delivery failure notice from your mail server warning you that a certain piece could not be delivered because the sending domain was on a DNS-based Blocking List.
Of course, analysis techniques are easily susceptible to spoofing mechanisms implanted by anti-site-theme motivated hackers.
In any event, as such databases are compiled largely through unchallenged third-party reporting and, thereby, prone to mischief, further investigation is surely warranted -- particularly when the big G is involved.
What’s that I smell – perchance a post 4-day-weekend 3rd Google evisceration?
There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that the actions of mankind can impact global temperatures even a single degree Celsius in either direction. Fight the hype.
Marc
December 28, 2007 - 23:10 ET by Noel SheppardMarc,
Can you think of a better way to wring in the New Year? ns
Thank You
December 29, 2007 - 13:04 ET by JoelCTGood post, Marc. I was planning to do some research and put up a sane answer to this blog, but you have done it for me. Thank you.
Everyone please read Marc's post carefully before you sound off. Some of you are starting to sound like you think the Google Black Helicopters are coming to take us away........
<Many times, what appears as a conspiracy is merely a big stinkin' pile of crappy programming>
As a long-time programmer, I can assure you that this is true. At some point the Spectator may have had a malware ad which triggered this, or maybe some juvenile leftist (but I repeat myself) turned them in as a bad site so he could pat himself on the back for being so clever.
As for myself, I am more than willing to allow the occasional Malware-notification mistake, intentional or otherwise, to happen if it will keep people from visiting sites that will wreck their hard drives and cause them to have to reload Windows. What Google does here is a GOOD thing, believe me. It protects them from liability, and it protects the Google user from computer crash.
And Hell no I don't work for Google. I just happen to know that it is by far the best search engine on the Web.
Amen. I couldn't agree
December 29, 2007 - 13:20 ET by SeanStAmen. I couldn't agree more.
I've Stopped Using Google
December 29, 2007 - 00:26 ET by pbthinkerI've stopped using Google, as a search engine, quite a while ago. Once I started reading about the politics, of the founders, and understood the power they had to do things (reading stories about Google and China, etc) I decided to drop them as a search engine, although they are difficult to get away from.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
pb...
December 29, 2007 - 00:32 ET by BlondeTry "dogpile".
Fast, no news....strictly a search engine. Nice.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Alternatives to Google
December 29, 2007 - 02:53 ET by PopularTechThe problem is Google really is the best search engine. The only others that come remotely close are:
1. www.Yahoo.com
2. www.Live.com (Microsoft)
Either one is a solid replacement. All the other search engines do not have the indexing power and are fairly obsolete.
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I stopped using Google
December 29, 2007 - 09:57 ET by NortonPeteI did a couple of simple tests. I searched Yahoo and Google for something like; Bicycle Repair Mytown.
Yahoo's search returned actual bicycle shops in a 20 mile radius and some info on bicycle repair. I could use this info to find a repair shop.
Google's search returned Bicycling tour operators for Cape Cod, 250 miles away, The returned info was all useless, it was mainly sites that paid google to be first.
I see others posted the site
December 29, 2007 - 00:26 ET by DEVILDOCMOMand I thank them; I backed into the "real" site by going into Wikipedia and linking thru there....as I am sure many found if you type the full name you are sent to a liberal site which is pure garbage.
Illegitimi Non Carborundum; Vinegar Joe Stillwell and Barry Goldwater.
American Spectator has no malware
December 29, 2007 - 00:55 ET by JimGI ran both Adaware and Spybot on my computer, went to American Spectator, and ran them again.
Not a single cookie, much less malware.
MORE GOOGLE WEIRDNESS!!
December 29, 2007 - 01:24 ET by MrShyWhat is going on over there at that cesspool of west-coast liberalism?
Check out what happened when I googled "NewsBusters":
http://www.mr-shy.co...
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Shy
December 29, 2007 - 01:26 ET by BlondeThat's kind of creepy.
I have never used Google....and now I will make it a point never to even try it (not even to check out their idiot logos).
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
lol
December 29, 2007 - 01:31 ET by well99Nice one Mr.Shy
Beautiful! Just the laugh I
December 29, 2007 - 01:36 ET by HermanoBeautiful! Just the laugh I need before heading off to dreamland.
thank you :) :) :)
December 29, 2007 - 01:42 ET by MrShyThree smiles and thank you's, one each for:
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Heh Heh
December 29, 2007 - 12:48 ET by JoelCTHeh heh. Good one.
Dogpile
December 29, 2007 - 09:52 ET by FowlerK9I am proud to say I have never used google. Dogpile is a far superior search engine.
This from a Conde' Nast
December 29, 2007 - 10:35 ET by ahusserThis from a Conde' Nast Portfolio.com article on Google's CEO, Eric Schmidt:
WHERE HE’S FROM
Schmidt’s political views were deeply affected by the Vietnam War. In an interview with the Computerworld Honors Oral History Project in 2000, Schmidt said that he saw the government as something “that is going to take you to a war that is illegal and kill you.” Despite his years in tech-exec positions, he never shed this view, which helped land him at Google. The founders said they saw in Schmidt both a kindred spirit with an antiestablishment past and a clearheaded businessman with the acumen and discipline to lead the company from scrappy startup to profitable global entity.
Major lefties all. It's amazing how they don't hesitate to make money though in good Republican fashion. Reminds me of celebrities.
I tried googling several
December 29, 2007 - 11:39 ET by misterbee241I tried googling several conservative and liberal sites and only got the warning on the American Spectator link. I also went to the Spectator site using Explorer with Norton Fraud protection, and did not receive any warnings.
So caveat emptor I guess.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
I don't think it's google
December 29, 2007 - 12:40 ET by SeanStI've been following the posts about google on this site, and they are starting to sound a bit like crazy conspiracy theories. Does google have an index of news stories with a bias to the left? Definitely, but as this site has shown, a majority of news stories lean left. Is it trying to target conservative web sites and block access to them through its search algorithms, while at the same time eliminating Christmas? I seriously doubt it.
This seems to be a case where spectator.org got mistakenly flagged as a dangerous site. It could have been due to a fluke in the indexing algorithm of the badware filter, or it could have been a malicious user trying to fool the system. Whatever it is, I haven't seen any evidence that google, its founders, or its employees have anything to do with it.
Amen
December 29, 2007 - 14:03 ET by JoelCTAmen. I couldn't agree more. <grin>
-
December 30, 2007 - 16:34 ET by dahliatraversI haven't seen any evidence that google, its founders, or its employees have anything to do with it
That could be. But they created their own credibility problem by egregiously censoring information in China and thereby supporting the virulently anti-democracy, anti-human rights regime in Beijing. (Disgraceful.)
So now, when something like this happens, we have to wonder. Is it innocent or is Google once again engaging in censorship?
Check it out
December 29, 2007 - 16:15 ET by rammingspeedGoogle must be contacted and given a chance to fully explain themselves. The possibility that some sabotage has been spotted by Google can't be discounted. Leftists are up for this kind of thing at any time. If Google can't come up with good answers, then they'll take the blame for hitting at conservatives.
Google is a big money making business, I can't imagine their top tier people simply allowing a gag to be put out as the real deal. The fallout would be enormous.
But if Rosie O'donnell once fooled people into thinking she's the "queen of nice," then anything's possible
Decided to check out badware to find out who is reporting this
December 30, 2007 - 14:51 ET by jeffinsachttp://www.stopbadware.org/reports/container?reportname=http://www.spectator.org/
This page is StopBadware's information page about spectator.org/.
Google has found that some portion of spectator.org/ contains or links to badware or otherwise violates Google's software guidelines.
Some websites intentionally distribute harmful software, while many others have been compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners. StopBadware reports information provided by Google about these sites (see 'Reporting entities' to the left) and offers a process to assist webmasters in removing their sites from Google's list (see 'I am the owner of this site' below).
For StopBadware's guide to understanding Google's warning pages, see our Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).
For more information about StopBadware, click here.
In other words Google themselves are reporting to badware that this site should be listed. Funny of course also that Google is one of the main sponsors for the website.
Reply from StopBadware.org
January 4, 2008 - 15:30 ET by EricaGeorgeHi Noel (and NewsBusters readers):
I work for StopBadware.org, and noticed your post about the Google
warning on the Spectator website. It took a while for my application to comment to be approved, but since I now have an activated account here I hope I can help clear up some of the confusion.
It's actually Google, not StopBadware, that flagged the Spectator site.
Google independently checks the web for badware and badware-linking
code, and places warnings in its own search results. StopBadware comes
in simply to help site owners who want to remove the warnings in
learning about badware and getting the warnings removed.
It is not possible for anyone to falsely report a site to Google or
StopBadware and have a warning placed in search engine results. Google
independently identifies sites that host or distribute badware, and
places warning pages based on their own internal identification and
testing. A warning is never placed simply due to an unverified report
from the public.
Further, the warnings have nothing whatsoever to do with the political
or other content of a site, and are entirely and solely based on
Google's determination of a malware danger at the site. Such dangers can
be from software offered for download, but are far more frequently due
to hidden "drive-by download" redirects placed onto a site by malicious
hackers. In those cases, often the website owners themselves are not
aware that their site is distributing malicious software.
Many sites that are the subject of Google's warnings have been the
victims of a malicious hacking attack, in which code linking directly to
badware through exploits was inserted onto an otherwise innocent, but
poorly secured, website. Another common reason for otherwise innocent
sites to be flagged by Google is if badware is being distributed through
third party provided content such as ads provided by an ad network.
To remove the warning, the Spectator’s site’s owners will need to
discover what code on the site caused Google to flag the site, and then
clean and secure the site. Then they can submit a request for review.
They can submit a review request to Google directly by logging in to
its Webmaster Tools as a verified site owner. While StopBadware was
closed for Harvard University’s winter break, during that time website
owners were encouraged to use Webmaster Tools to request reviews. Now
that we are back in the office, the Spectator’s owners can also submit
a review request to StopBadware using our Request for Review form,
available on our homepage or at http://stopbadware.o....
Further information is available on our information page for owners of
sites with Google warnings here: http://stopbadware.org/home/faq#partnerwarnings and our Security Tips
on finding and removing badware here: http://stopbadware.org/home/security. We also offer a one-stop page displaying our information about a site,
which is the page anyone coming to us from a Google warning will first
see. That page for the Spectator is here: http://www.stopbadwa...
Your readers may also be interested in the comment conversation between me and Brian of Six Meat Buffet, at http://sixmeatbuffet...
Lastly, the Spectator's owners may wish to take advantage of some helpful folks in the StopBadware discussion group, who have already created a thread about the site and offered some insight into issues that may have caused the Google flag: http://groups.google...
Please feel free to contact me if you have any more questions I might be able to help answer.
Sincerely,
Erica George
StopBadware staff
Ms. George, allow me to
January 5, 2008 - 02:49 ET by CortillaenMs. George, allow me to clarify something you seem to have misunderstood: Nothing Google does is free of the political slant of its owners, and if they think they can get away with anything to hurt those with opposing ideals, they will. Your explanation of the situation actually provides an interesting insight that Google's operators have the unilateral power to flag a site as "dangerous", apparently without having to justify their reasons to the public. Do they even have to justify said reasons to anyone, and are these flaggings verified in any way that is open to scrutiny? As you can see above, numerous people have had the Spectator's site scanned with no negative results. Unless a Google representative should provide us with both the specific problem that was found with the AS site and confirmation of such from a source unrelated to Google, we have no reason to believe anything other than Google has, once again, improperly exercised its power to further a political agenda.
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Cordillaen and everyone else
January 10, 2008 - 12:15 ET by Cometcom1I agree with everyone that Google does indeed have the power to do great harm with their market leadership - but does that mean that they indeed did it with this issue at hand.
I'm active in the Stopbadware Google group, and I have send Mr. Noel Sheppard a personal mail inviting him to discuss the issues of the web page in question with us. We're a group of volunteer people there trying to have a say and ensure that there indeed is contents in the Google blocking. And I must admit, there has not been any time where they where wrong with their blockings.
Indeed the site in question here does use scripting that can be harmful for visitors if they do not have excellent security in place. Is that what anyone dealing with the election want to have in their rep sheet? - I doubt it, isn't the politcal parties and people representing their wievs supposed to do good for the inhabitants of the country they try to govern? - Then their ultimate goal is to protect the country and the people from any harm.
One of the vulenteer helpers has found the following on the site:
1. Questionable content from zedo.com - Lots of complaints have been voiced over a long period about this company.
2. Inline scripting from spectator.org :
[QUOTE]
This appears similar to earlier exploit injection and infection of
double-click ads to MLB, NHL, Economist (see
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2007-11-25-cyber-mond...)
- this is in addition to the conventional fastclick scripts to yceml
net (CJ)
[/QUOTE]
3. The Index page uses : http ://spectator org/Scripts/
AC_RunActiveContent.js - with an outdated Adobe script that is vulnerable.
Is that what you call non existant evidence? - Hardly.
With that in mind - let me once again invite you all to have a look at the Stopbadware group as Erica mentioned - you're all welcome to voice your opinions and ask questions, we will do our best to answer and help anyone interested.
Cometcom1
First, kindly refrain from
January 11, 2008 - 11:25 ET by CortillaenFirst, kindly refrain from blatent lies when you try to put words in my mouth. "Is that what you call non existant evidence? - Hardly." I never once said there was no evidence. In fact, I never even implied such. Rather, I pointed out that Google's political leanings have influenced their operations before, so there is the distinct possibility that this is another such event, and, without further information, it is not unreasonable to believe it so. I simply want a Google representative to give the specific threats prompting them to flag AS.
However, even if such an explanation were given, Google's bias can still impact this system in two subtle, yet very potent, ways: The frequency of inspection for threats could be higher for sites disliked by Google (a simple and easily-defensible action, but nonetheless markedly biased), and Google could have fluid standards on what necessitates a flagging, meaning the same content on two sites could yield a flagging when Google dislikes a site or no action when the site is deemed of consistant ideology. For example, the three threats you note are "questionable content" on a linked site, script that "appears similar to earlier" threats, and an outdated script. None of these appear to be concrete threats, so that takes us into the grey zone where Google makes judgement calls, which are, by definition, subjective.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi