Economic Gloom and Doom on ‘The Chris Matthews Show'

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NewsBusters and affiliate The Business & Media Institute have been reporting for many months the continuous, bearish assessments of economic gloom and doom by America's press.

Of course, this all comes despite 24 straight quarters of Gross Domestic Product growth, 50 consecutive months of job gains, higher wages for virtually all Americans, and last month's consumer spending explosion.

Ignoring all this Sunday morning were panelists on "The Chris Matthews Show" who demonstrated such a deplorable lack of economic acumen that maybe they shouldn't be allowed to comment on such matters when cameras and microphones are on.

Host Matthews set this segment up:

So which of these will history remember as the biggest event for Americans in 2007? Will it be the surge, and the progress it's made on the ground over there in Iraq? What about the threat of war with Iran being greatly deflated by that National Intelligence Estimate? Or will it be the big dive in the U.S. economy, especially the credit crisis? Or, will it be something else?

Big dive in the U.S. economy? Honestly, Chris, what the heck are you talking about?

Isn't a big dive in an economy normally coincident with negative GDP growth and rising unemployment? Did that happen in 2007, and we all missed it somehow?

The answer to that question appeared to be "Yes" for most of Matthews' guests:

KATTY KAY, BBC: Well, I know this is about America's year, but as a foreigner, living in America who's paid in dollars, but wants to travel to Europe, guys, please can we get the dollar back up again? It's killing us. It's got to be the economy.

Mrs. Kay, do you think that weak dollar is killing all of America's companies that rely so heavily on exports for their sales? And how many more Americans are working today because of this currency translation that U.S. multinationals so benefit from? Or is that too technical for you to grasp?

Regardless of the answer, former "CBS Evening News" anchor Dan Rather was equally limited in his economic knowledge:

I agree. What's been touched off by this sub-prime crisis it's called, and by the way, we've only seen the proverbial top of the iceberg. There's a lot more to come there.

Really, Dan? Is that what your economic expertise is telling you? Could you tell the class what percentage of currently outstanding mortgages are sub-prime? Do you even know what sub-prime means?

Equally inept, MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell also had coal for viewers:

The economy is a very, very big deal, not only because most people's equity is in their home, also the stock market, and because of these economic woes, it is also adding fuel to this anti-immigration feeling that is out there in this country.

What? The stock market is actually up for the year, Norah. Hadn't you noticed? And please explain how the value of people's homes declining a bit adds fuel to this anti-immigration feeling in the country?

Por favor? Bonito por favor? With azúcar on top?

Sadly, rather than challenge O'Donnell, Matthews concurred:

Bad times are bad times for people, too. Right.

What? Bad times? I guess these economic dunces missed Friday's Commerce Department announcement concerning November's consumer spending explosion as reported by Bloomberg (emphasis added):

Consumer spending in the U.S. rose in November by the most in more than two years as incomes grew and shoppers took advantage of early holiday discounts.

A bigger-than-forecast 1.1 percent increase in purchases followed a revised 0.4 percent gain in October that was more than previously estimated, the Commerce Department said today in Washington.

[...]

More jobs and higher salaries may avert a collapse in spending, which accounts for more than two-thirds of the economy, as home values fall and fuel costs rise. The jump in sales last month reduces the odds the economy will contract this quarter, even as retail surveys suggest shopping has cooled in December, economists said.

As such, folks outside of newsrooms don't see the "bad times" Matthews and his economically-challenged guests talked about Sunday.

Frankly, the idea that these people can say anything they want about such things with nobody challenging them should offend citizens across the fruited plain.

Maybe more important, the fact that these supposed journalists believe a non-existent economic downturn is a bigger event to most Americans in 2007 than conditions in Iraq improving for our soldiers there coincident with declining military casualties demonstrates just how separated from reality press members are.

If this is the kind of economic reporting we should expect in the upcoming election year, Democrat candidates will be getting Christmas presents day after day after day.

How sad for those that will lose their jobs as a result of the recession that likely will only come as a media driven self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course, left-leaning press members will conveniently recall their Machiavelli to assuage any guilt they might feel, assuming they have a conscience that is.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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"It's The Economy, Stupid!" Ver. 2.0

This is all just a setup for the Dems (with added value if Hillary wins the nomination) to go back to the 1992 playbook on the economy. Truth was the economy was walking out of a recession in 1992 but it just added to the multitude of reasons that Bush I lost.

IH

IH,

Actually, the '90s recession ended in the 2nd quarter of 1991: http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableView.asp#Mid

The GDP grew by 2.6%, 1.9%, and 1.9% in the last three quarters of 1991 respectively. In 1992, the gains were 4.2%, 3.9%, 4.0%, and 4.5%. There WAS no recession in 1992. Yet, Clinton said there was, and the media backed his play. 

If media would have accurately and honestly reported the state of the economy in 1992, George H.W. Bush would have been re-elected in a landslide, and that would have been the end of the Clintons!

Sadly, media are doing it again, and will only get away with it if we let them!  ns

 

Perception Always Delays Reality

 Actually, the '90s recession ended in the 2nd quarter of 1991

Oh I certainly agree, Noel. The recession was over by the second quarter of '91 so I guess I was getting at the perception that, even if truthfully reported, would have extended into '92 before the truth seems to be accepted by the public. Either way the Clinton's lied during '92 and are one of many of the liberal media/politician cabal that are trying to create a reality via pessimism and dishonesty.

Grinch!

I can only imagine how painfully difficult it is to watch a show hosted by Chris Matthews. He is the grumpy old man of the TV news show business.

Except for one thing

I agree entirely with you, NS, except for one thing. It's more than just the economy. They think they know a lot about everything, and they usually don't.

You know the old commercial about the actor who says that he isn't a doctor, but he plays one on TV? Or the guy who admits that he isn't a pilot, but he stayed in a Holiday Inn? Well, why do we listen to these self-appointed experts who give their opinion on the economy? Why? Because they "covered" stories about it? I deny that a reporter's surface-skimming research for a three-minute segment makes them "experts" on any topic.  

Their willingness to opine on subjects they know nothing about isn't limited to the economy. They certainly don't know anything about military and diplomatic progress, and that's why they don't report about it in Iraq. They only report the stories they know how to tell, which usually reduces them variation of "liberals good, conservatives bad."

Well said, KC, well said!

Well said, KC, well said! It reminds me of Brad Pitt who was out pimping for stem cell research last election. Does Brad Pitt look or sound as if he would even know where to FIND a book on stem cells? I mean, as an actor he's never even PLAYED an intelligent person! No " Beautiful Minds" in his resume to be sure! These people get hold of some silly pamphlet and that's all they need!

The combined expertise of

The combined expertise of the net is simply treating them like a millipede with flyswatters.

It has always existed but it was contained withing the various communities of expertise due to a suitable communication means to give it air and distribution.

Just how long it will take the media executives to get that message is an important question. Then how long will it take to hammer their primadonna ego centric talking heads to get the message.

 

The companies that make up

The companies that make up the S&P 500. 44% of revenues in 2007 came from outside the US (Fortune 12/24/07 p26) Estimated at 50% next year. The world economy is growing faster than the US. This is due to more of the rest of the world running away from the liberal/Democrat/socialist policies espoused by these uninformed/weak/co-dependent newscasters. All this is good news for US economy and jobs. The quality of the jobs in the US will be how well we compete (ie education) in the world market. Those that chose education, particularly a technical education, will do very well. The rest will find work, but at wages dictated by global market forces that, contrary to idiots in congress, they will not be able to legislate/control without destroying jobs.  

T Freidman wrote the world is flat, 10 years after everyone in business already knew this. This group is similarly behind and may never catch up.

Please tell these talking heads to avoid economics. They embarass themselves. Tell them to concentrate on their love for infanticide.

When ask if he took basket-weaving in college, Joe Nameth replied he took journalism, "it was easier" 

 

 

Ed Henry

Ed,

Is that an accurate number, 44 percent? And 50 percent next year? Astonishing.

We live in an extraordinary economic period, and these dolts don't get it. Right now, there are more economies around the world growing at the same time than EVER in history. EVER!!!

Will America and Americans benefit from this amazing alignment of the planets? You bet. And, our "weak" dollar is pivotal to our success in this kind of global marketplace.

To be sure, it doesn't surprise me that liberals don't understand this. Frankly, I find most people on the left understand very little when it comes to economics. Very little.

However, that people in the media are so ignorant is offensive to me, and almost beyond belief.  ns

C'mon, Noel. How much can

C'mon, Noel. How much can anyone whose economic model is Marxism understand about economics in the real world?

How many people know of, much less give a synopsis of the different economic theories of Adam Smith, Karl Marx, Milton Friedman, and John Maynard Keynes? In my not so humble opinion, the high schools in this country should have economics as a required subject, along with English composition and reading, mathematics, and government or civics. But, then, I also believe that citizenship should not be automatic even to those born here, but bestowed only after a comprehensive test on how our government is supposed to operate...kinda like the citizenship test that people attempting to become naturalized citizens have to pass.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Sooner or later, there will

Sooner or later, there will be another recession. Contrary to the reports from the MSM, the business cycle did not disappear as a result of the Clinton administration. There will always be booms, and there will always be busts. It is part of the business cycle, which is a reflection of the human condition.

For the most part, the leading economic indicators show a healthy economy. The MSM's constant banging of the recession drum may actually cause a recession. It is a clear case of journalistic malpractice.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Fun With Word Substitutions

There will always be booms, and there will always be busts. It is part of the business cycle, which is a reflection of the human condition.

After a little substituion fun we have:

There will always be (temperature spikes), and there will always be (temperature dips). It is part of the (climate) cycle(s), which is a reflection of the (earth's climate) condition.

 

Liberal Apocalypticism

There you go.

Anything a liberal comments on will be mocked, minimized, and refuted if it's the truth ... and praised, aggrandized, and supported by "consensus" if it's a lie.

I can't wait until a

I can't wait until a Democrat get in office so we can hear reports of a great economy regardless of what condition it is in and the higher taxes we will be paying.

What do they expect. If I

What do they expect.

If I want to say start a blog about the computer or software industry in India , do they think I am going to make international calls even with voip to talk to all the movers and shakers there to report stories.

Might they think I will research publications , procedings of conferences and blogs about it instead to cross check what I can and to my best to summarize what I have looked at.

I hope they don't think I have to open an office there to gain credibility for my content.

If they were to do a story on this subject they would probably only touch a couple of percent of the content available open source and shout out their wisdom of something they have only scratched the surface on.

 

Awww shucks, Noel. These

Awww shucks, Noel. These nimrods only have a week left in 2007, so they have to work really hard at convincing Americans that we are all just one paycheck away from soup lines and tent cities!

It's a gas, gas, gas

As an example of how the MSM talks down the economy under a GOP president and talks it up for a Dem, I remember back in 2000.  Gas prices shot up from about $1 a gallon to around $1.75 in my part of the country.  That sounds great now, but that was a huge increase at the time.  The silence from the media was deafening.  Now every uptick in gas prices is the lead story, or near the top of the news. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Is that George Bush's face

Is that George Bush's face laughing over C.Matt's shoulder?

completely laughable

Sure there are economic concerns but 2007 actually being a year where the 'economic dive' is the lead story?  Lets see....GDP growth up, stock market up, unemployment low?   These people lived through the Jimmy Carter economy and they call 2007 a year with an 'economic dive'. Laughable.

Economy or the 90's, what economy?

Old, Retired and glad of it.

It's comical watching people try to turn the ugly economy of the 90's into a winner. The dot com boom was a bust that took the life savings and retirement accounts of millions and resulted in the indictment and conviction of more CEO/CFO's than any other time in history. On top of that the Klington administration destroyed the U.S. military with over 40% reductions of manpower and ability. A trillion or more dollars worth of equipment was swallowed up in some black hole. Anyone know where that money went? The only people that came out of the 90's in better shape than they went in was the Klingons and Algorabge with their stolen millions and they're still getting paid off for pardons.  Just how many dozen Klington admin officials took the 5th or skipped the country to avoid testifying and going to prison? I have the list somewhere but you can google it.

Liberal Apocalypticism

Anything a liberal comments on will be mocked, minimized, and refuted if it's the truth ... and praised, aggrandized, and supported by "consensus" if it's a lie.

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Are you a bot or just unoriginal? This is at least the second thread on which you have made exactly the same comment.

hey hey there Dahlia

bots are nothing if not programmed with random sequence variation

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

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Hey, Botg!

H'mm, perhaps more observation is needed ...

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Merry Christmas

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

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Merry Christmas, Botg.

botg... I don't mean to

botg...

I don't mean to butt in but I did want to say real quick, I have been meaning to tell you when I used to post to you as bot...I meant nothing bad by that, I am not PC savvy but have been learning as I go, from others, so I apologize if you ever thought different.

I do know what a bot is now, and there was one here long ago...it was weird plus spooky...at the time I didn't know what to think.

LOL...

Merry Christmas to you and yours...you to Dahlia! 

Btw...Are you watching the game?

Chargers baby!

#3 seed (if Rivers doesn't get smacked for being a wiseass, Philip has the run at the mouth disease)

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

botg... Agree with your

botg...

Agree with your sentiments totally.

 Catch ya later...I'm outta' here.

Have a nice Christmas all....

Unsane feeling evil

Unsane regresses from the Christmas spirit briefly to make this statement... 

Yeah, my Broncos sucked, but I was so hoping that Rivers would have gotten brutally popped by one of my boys for his act.  There is ALWAYS next year and he is still in the AFC West...

OK, that being said, Merry Christmas to one and all. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

This is another example of

This is another example of the DNC-Marxist-MSM three-some.

The liberal America haters

use this same "logic" when talking about Iraq and Afghanistan too.

I only hope that they invest their earnings using their own ideas of what is good and bad.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Interestingly, the drive

Interestingly, the drive media's talk of a bad economy is actually helping to straighten out the real estate market and the valuing of mortgage backed securities who's worth has been in question.

By talking the economy down, they have convinced the Federal Reserve to lower the Fed Funds rate three times this year with possible reductions in 2008.  Lowering the Fed Fund rates causes interest rates to be lowered.  This is great for the eononmy.

The "do nothing" Congress, facing the threat of veto from our president and the wrath of the American public wrote law that will prevent many more of us from having to face the AMT this coming income tax season.  And, they did it without "pay go."  In other words, they gave us a tax cut!  Think of it.  The dimocrat majority gave us a tax cut.  That may be the first time that has ever happened.

The result of the above is furthering a robost economy that is not just better than the Clintoon economy was, but the best economic prosperity since just after WWII.

The constant yammering by the chattering class has had the net result of ensuring that the economy will be in great shape as we roll toward the November elections. 

 

 

 

 

Great Economic news

According to some sources, there are very real reasons for concern.   We're in trouble and we refuse to admit it.

Subprime and Credit Cards may not be a problem to those who've sufficiently insulated themselves for the short run.  What the heck, there's gonna be some great bargains out there.  But either side that gets into the White House is going to go straight to bailouts.

The Republicans will continue to go with the Corporate welfare, or the Dems will go for Public welfare.

When it comes to my pocketbook, there's not a dime's worth of difference between them.

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