
Former "CBS Evening News" anchor Walter Cronkite, much like his former colleague Bob Schieffer, appears to be dead set against the war in Iraq regardless of how conditions have improved in the past several months.
In an op-ed published at the liberal website Common Dreams, Cronkite made his strongest surrender appeal to date, whilst of course castigating the Bush administration.
Readers are advised to proceed with caution, and keep a trash receptacle handy in case of unexpected reverse peristalsis (emphasis added, h/t Dan Gainor):
The American people no longer support the war in Iraq. The war is being carried on by a stubborn president who, like Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon during the Vietnam War, does not want to lose. But from the beginning this has been an ill-considered and poorly prosecuted war that, like the Vietnam War, has diminished respect for America. We believe Mr. Bush would like to drag the war on long enough to hand it off to another president.The war in Iraq reminds us of the tragedy of the Vietnam War. Both wars began with false assertions by the president to the American people and the Congress. Like Vietnam, the Iraq War has introduced a new vocabulary: "shock and awe," "mission accomplished," "the surge." Like Vietnam, we have destroyed cities in order to save them. It is not a strategy for success.
The Bush administration has attempted to forestall ending the war by putting in more troops, but more troops will not solve the problem. We have lost the hearts and minds of most of the Iraqi people, and victory no longer seems to be even a remote possibility. It is time to end our occupation of Iraq, and bring our troops home.
This war has had only limited body counts. There are reports that more than one million Iraqis have died in the war. These reports cannot be corroborated because the US military does not make public the number of the Iraqi dead and injured. There are also reports that some four million Iraqis have been displaced and are refugees either abroad or within their own country. Iraqis with the resources to leave the country have left. They are frightened. They don't trust the US, its allies or its mercenaries to protect them and their interests.
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The invasion of Iraq was illegal from the start.
I've had enough, for here comes that dreaded reverse peristalsis. You're on your own.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.















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Walter
December 5, 2007 - 13:45 ET by allanfAt least Cronkite, unlike Dan Rather retired in his sixties. We can thank our lucky stars that the safety of America is not entrusted to men like him.
Richard Nixon
December 5, 2007 - 13:53 ET by iveseenitallRichard Nixon ended the Vietnam War, Walter. And you know it , you sick, "liberal" hypocrite. All "liberals" cover your ears---RICHARD NIXON-RICHARD NIXON-RICHARD NIXON-RICHARD NIXON--he,he,he
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
It REALLY happened....honest 'injun'...
December 5, 2007 - 14:54 ET by neighb.....Nothing new from this old hack. Cronkite personally advised President Lincoln to stop the slaughter of, "This useless, violent civil war."
It is also widely known that as a young correspondent, he was a front-line reporter for the Mesopotamian Times when those pesky Israelites were kicking the poopie out of his beloved Philistines.
neighb
Yep. Still stuck back in the
December 5, 2007 - 13:53 ET by Chris NormanYep. Still stuck back in the Sixties...
Retired again
December 5, 2007 - 13:54 ET by Tito the NormanWalter,
'You must stop thinking we still care what you say'.
Signed,
The American public.
America: Words must never
December 5, 2007 - 14:21 ET by PeskyDaneAmerica: Words must never leave Walter Cronkite's mouth.
Well his views may
December 5, 2007 - 13:54 ET by MidAmericaWell his views may be reasonable considering he probably only watches CBS news, reads the NYT, and listens to NPR.
His constant reference to Viet Nam, as though he can't make a distinction between then and now, makes him seem like an old shell shocked soldier, with his uniform on, scourering the bushes behind his home trying to flush out enemy troops.
Walter Cronkite
December 5, 2007 - 13:55 ET by candanceOf course Cronkite knows what he's talking about. Cause, you know, a career TV journalist with no access to classified documents knows exactly what the president needs to do.....
So if there are reports of
December 5, 2007 - 13:57 ET by taterSo if there are reports of over 1 million Iraqis dead and the US military doesn't make these public then how does Mr. Cronkite know this information.
Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns
Casualties
December 5, 2007 - 14:09 ET by saw the light"There are reports that more than one million Iraqis have died in the war. These reports cannot be corroborated because the US military does not make public the number of the Iraqi dead and injured."
My thought on this is statement is that the esteemed <sarc> Walter Cronkite believes these reports wholeheartedly. It is only because the US Military does not release these stats that the reports cannot be corroborated.
Instead of saying that the reports are unsubstantiated (because they are complete BS), he immediately states that the military will not corroborate them. He takes sides AGAINST the military, which of course is not surprising. He is placing the onus of fact-checking on the military instead of where it truly belongs, with the press.
MU got hosed by BCS!
The only 2 words a MSM reporter needs...
December 5, 2007 - 14:52 ET by The Wicked Conservative"SOME SAY!" As long as what follows is anti republican it's swallowed whole by the Dem masses (read dumbasses). Well "some say" it's time to stop pretending anyone gives a damn about what this clown has to say.
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill
Walter Kronkite -- where on
December 5, 2007 - 14:03 ET by Jack BauerWalter Kronkite -- where on earth did they dig him up from?
Jack, if Im correct, he was
December 5, 2007 - 15:00 ET by bassndudeJack, if Im correct, he was spewed from the bowels of Christmas Past.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
bass - ha . Marley's
December 5, 2007 - 15:56 ET by Jack Bauerbass - ha . Marley's Ghost?
Jack, You got
December 5, 2007 - 16:29 ET by bassndudeJack, You got it..:-)
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Cronking just wants to
December 5, 2007 - 14:04 ET by motherbeltCronking just wants to relive his "glory days" when LBJ whined "If I've lost Walter Cronkite, I've lost Middle America." In fact, in a later interview with Esquire magazint, he remarked that what LBJ should have said was "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost ALL of America."
The American people no
December 5, 2007 - 14:05 ET by rimskyThe American people no longer support the war in Iraq. The war is being carried on by a stubborn president who, like Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon during the Vietnam War, does not want to lose.
And therein lies the problem with most liberals. Losing is acceptable to them.
Doesn't want to lose
December 5, 2007 - 14:44 ET by ThisnThatMy point exactly, Rimsky. The surrender, anti-military ethos is so strong in the Dims minds that nothing can get by. Whoda thunk we would want a President that doesn't want to lose? HUH? For the life of me, I don't understand that kind of thinking. But uncle Walter things that if he continues to say things like that, more and more Americans will love him. I despise this dispictable human being.
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Hammer, meet nail.
December 5, 2007 - 14:55 ET by motherbeltAnd therein lies the problem with most liberals. Losing is acceptable to them -rimsky
Good point!
Another Crazy Uncle at the Party
December 5, 2007 - 14:06 ET by PSPCpl"The war in Iraq reminds us of the tragedy of the Vietnam War." No, Walt, it reminds no one but YOU of Vietnam. And even then, your recollection is a little fuzzy. It was John F. Kennedy (GASP, YOU SAID HIS NAME) who increased our role in Vietnam. Second, if we had taken the same approach in Vietnam that we took in Iraq, that war would have been over and done with by 1965 and Vietnam would have been free. Third, we are winning in Iraq because President Bush refuses to listen to the likes of you and your ilk. You are just another crazy uncle in the corner at the party shouting at people who aren't there.
Noel
December 5, 2007 - 14:11 ET by MrShyCan you do some research on this Cronkite fella, and find out what planet in the galaxy he resides on? Thanks.
He, Hell-en Thomas, and the pre-historic relics at 60 Minutes and the primetime alphebet news programs should all be put into a capsule and shot off into space, back to where they came from.
Clearly, they haven't a clue what's happening on this planet, in the 21st Century.
(This post has a real sci-fi flavor to it, oui?)
"I still love NewsBusters." - Mr. Shy
Hey Croncite!
December 5, 2007 - 14:42 ET by planetrepublicanHey Croncite! Shut the f--k up, you old bastard! One of us will come over there and bi--h slap your old sorry ass. Living large and bad mouthing your country, sorry old wanker.
Booty Contest
December 5, 2007 - 14:40 ET by stratmanWalter Cronkite, Helen Thomas and Dan Rather are all bucking for DKos Playmate of the Year.
Turn Ons: OBL, Castro, Chavez (isn't he dreamy), Ahmadinejad (can he wear a Member's Only jacket or what!), Code Pink, anything Democrat especially if it's a Clinton, Abortion, Al Gorgeous and Climate Change, open borders, wealth redistribution, government cheese, unisexuals, Berkeley, the movie The Golden Compass.
Turn Offs: Bush, Republicans, Bush, corporations owned by Republicans, Bush, US Military, Bush, traditional marriage, Bush, heterosexuals, Bush, nuclear family, Bush, religion except for Islam the religion of peace, Bush, facts, Bush, SUV's (except my Escalade!), Bush, food, Bush, guns (except for my security detail), Bush, Red States, BUSH!
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
You forgot to mention Bush,
December 5, 2007 - 17:13 ET by sunandsteelYou forgot to mention Bush, Darth Cheney, Bush, Karl Rove, Chimpy McHitler, Rumsfeld, Bush.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
My bad. Killing them with
December 5, 2007 - 18:03 ET by stratmanMy bad.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS
December 5, 2007 - 14:42 ET by Der AlteTwo words - "old Fool"!
Walter who? I thought this
December 5, 2007 - 14:48 ET by buddycWalter who? I thought this guy died 20 years ago? Isn't he the guy who used to do the news on CNN?
Walter Cronkite turned one
December 5, 2007 - 15:17 ET by fitzfongWalter Cronkite turned one desperate quote from Lyndon Johnson into the colossal myth that he was somehow "the most trusted Man in America". Any shred of credibility this fossil had left was destroyed when he suggested---with a straight face---that Karl Rove had coordinated with Osama Bin Laden to release a threat tape days before the 2004 Election. In truth, Cronkite is your typical has-been windbag living large off past "glory"...the Bob Denver or Ed Burns of news. Cronkie, Cronkie, lend me your comb.
I Agree!
December 5, 2007 - 15:06 ET by connorinI Agree with Uncle Cranky-Pants!
It is High time were recalled our troops........from Germany, Japan, Korea...
(/sarc off)
Walter's slip is showing
December 5, 2007 - 15:09 ET by KC MulvilleThe premise of the news media is that they know something we don’t. The key word is “know.” Professional media support their reports with credible evidence or reliable testimony, and that justifies their beliefs that they report to us. Over the last few years, especially with the news media, we’ve discovered that the media has been cheating. They publish reports that reflect their beliefs, but they’ve been skimming on the evidence.
That’s why the Dan Rather-gate document scandal is so revealing; it shows how the media will accept anything as evidence, so long as it supports their preconceived assumptions. It becomes a circular argument. The evidence is “solid” because it fits with their assumptions, and the assumptions are reinforced because they’re based on “evidence.”
This Cronkite speech reflects the same cycle. Cronkite is using his lofty position to assure us of his conclusions. However, look at how he’s supporting his conclusions (his “evidence”):
Bush is stubborn, and wants to stick his failure on his successor -- who made Cronkite a clinical psychologist?
“We have destroyed cities to save them” -- what cities have we destroyed?
Uncorroborated reports of one million dead -- but most reports set the total much lower, in the tens of thousands. (Any other wild, uncorroborated statistics you feel like throwing out there indiscriminately, Walter?)
Congress was lied to -- prove to us, Walter, how Bush lied? Bush did pass along information that turned out to be false, but it was the same information that everyone else (including Clinton and most of Europe) also believed to be true. It isn’t lying if you say something that you believe to be true. Now Walter, don’t you know the difference between a lie and a mistake?
American credibility was diminished. It's unlucky for Walter that this came out today. The NIE report proved that with the invasion of Iraq, America showed the rest of the region that we were serious, and they fully believed our resolve. The only weakening of credibility comes from the Left, which has been undermining our efforts from Day One.
Cronkite is showing us that he’s been perfectly willing to base his conclusions on shaky evidence and partisan, ideological prejudices. Maybe, just maybe, people will start to see that this has been his technique all along, and that he never deserved any credibility in the first place.
An "F" in common sense
December 5, 2007 - 15:12 ET by dboThere are reports that more than one million Iraqis have died in the war.
O.K. Let's do the math. The iraq war started on March 18, 2003. That's aprox 1725 days ago. 1 million divided by 1725 is 580. According to Walter Windbag there are 580 Iraqis dying each and every day since the war started. What an idiot!
Walter
December 5, 2007 - 15:16 ET by MikeDInstead of the troops leaving Iraq, I think senile old goats
like Walter Cronkite should stay at home.
What a buffoon this person has become.
Buffoon!!??
December 5, 2007 - 18:59 ET by planetrepublicanI now think he was always a buffoon. I think he managed to pull the wool over our eyes for years and years. I now wonder how many dirty tricks he pulled over the years (like Dan Rather), how many lies he told to get liberals elected. If Rather was rotten, so was Cronkite; I think now Rather copied Cronkite, corrupt as the day is long.
It's a good thing we have other media sources now-a-days. Can you imagine how much BS the MSM would fling our way, do throw our way?
A "senile old goat",
December 5, 2007 - 20:40 ET by msh1973A "senile old goat", indeed!
Might I add
December 5, 2007 - 22:49 ET by Cape Conservativenot only should he "stay home" but he should keep his mouth shut!
Our troops will leave Iraq,
December 5, 2007 - 15:34 ET by mattmOur troops will leave Iraq, as soon as the terrorists are obliterated and the people-run government is stabilized...
Walter Cronkite should leave public life.
Uncle Walter's signoff
December 5, 2007 - 15:41 ET by sherlock1Truth-in-adverising version of Uncle Walter's signoff:
"And that's the way we want you to think it is..."
Hey, that's Katie C's
December 5, 2007 - 22:53 ET by Cape Conservativefavorite expression now...guess it comes with the territory!
Please do tell us what you want us to believe, Ms. C and if we are too ignorant to get it the first time, just keep on keeping on til we do! <sarc off>
Only thing wrong with this picture is that CBS Evening News hasn't been on in this household for too many years to count - so I can only guess she's still following her original stated plans.
Somebody please call the
December 5, 2007 - 16:39 ET by midnight cowboySomebody please call the nursing home and tell them General Cronkite has slipped out and he has not taken his afternoon meds!
General Cronkite
December 5, 2007 - 17:38 ET by PAPA LA PROUD AMERICAN
Excuse me but that is Heneral Meeskite. See if you can figure out that.
What the MSM censored - Bill Clinton
December 5, 2007 - 17:00 ET by Gary HallI've noted this before, and will again for Cronkite's benefit. The role of our national media must be, in the goal of reporting all of the news "fairly," to present the views of all of the players such that a national discussion can take place on the issues -- with everyone enlightened.
These are the words of former President Bill Clinton (who supported the war to remove Saddam from power), during an interview on Larry King Live in July 2003.
The effort in Iraq was indeed at a critical point in the moment - perhaps could have gone either way. Clinton made these comments just after re-confirming his view (as had Gore, Cohen, Albright, etc) that on the issue of WMD's the Bush administration saw it pretty much like the Clinton administration had.
Imagine what might have ocurred had our media not decided to censor (to keep from the American public and the world at large) these views:
In their view of the world - their agenda trumps all.
Cronkbite
December 6, 2007 - 15:53 ET by countywolfI thought he was good and dead, er, hoped he was dead.