As NewsBusters has been reporting for many months, one of the key elements to the advancement of global warming hysteria is money, in particular, taking it from those that have to give to those that don't.
Of course, during this time, the media have been less than forthcoming concerning this inconvenient truth.
A fine example of where all this alarm is heading was surprisingly reported by the Associated Press Tuesday.
In a piece hysterically titled "Poor in Need of Help From Global Warming," AP author John Heilprin exposed - with tugs at the heartstrings, of course - the real modus operandi behind the hysteria (emphasis added throughout, h/t NBer DontFeedTheTrolls):
Floods, droughts and other climate disasters will rob millions of children of the decent meals and schools they need unless rich nations pony up $86 billion by 2015 to help the poor adapt to global warming, an expert panel warned Tuesday.
The U.S. government needs to cover $40 billion of that spending, which will "strengthen the capacity of vulnerable people" to cope with climate-related risks, according to the report commissioned by the U.N. Development Program.
Bear in mind that this is coming from the same agency which just last week announced it had exaggerated for more than ten years estimates of the AIDS epidemic, and possesses a history of financial malfeasance pertaining to the Iraq Oil-for-Food scandal as well as its famed UNICEF program.
Yet, as Heilprin presented the case for rich nations "ponying up" moneys, not one hint of skepticism about the seriousness of the crisis, the science involved, or the organization publishing the report was offered for readers:
Olav Kjorven, head of the U.N. Development Program's bureau for development policy, called the financial aid a sort of "climate-proofing" for the poor that is only natural "when we know that the frequency of droughts and floods is going up."
Because of global warming, he said, 600 million people more in sub-Saharan Africa will go hungry from collapsing agriculture, an extra 400 million people will be exposed to malaria and other diseases and an added 200 million will be flooded out of their homes.
The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.
"The countries of the world that are the principal culprits, if you wish, for creating this problem in the first place need to act strongly to safeguard the future of those that have done nothing to cause this problem but are the most vulnerable," Kjorven said.
Adding it all up, the U.N. is coming after your wallets, and doing so with inflammatory hyperbole completely unchecked by today's media. Given what was just revealed about this organization seven days ago, how could any article referring to U.N. projections about anything completely avoid last week's announcement?
At the very least, someone with a contrary view of these dire prognostications should have been quoted.
Anything less is advocacy NOT journalism.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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If Evolution is fact
November 27, 2007 - 14:53 ET by c5thenAnd Darwin is correct about the survival of the fittest and Natural Selection...why should those most able to adapt and survive help those who are least able?
Do we not have a moral imperitive to make the human gene-pool as strong as possible and to allow the weakest to be weeded out?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com
Darwin
November 27, 2007 - 18:40 ET by teachertechNo, because it only applies to species not individuals. That's why the books title is Origin of Species and not individuals.
TT
November 27, 2007 - 19:28 ET by Noel SheppardTT,
So, explain to the class how a species could make adaptive decisions in its benefit without individuals in said species doing so.
I await your reply with great eagerness. ns
Just say no!
November 27, 2007 - 14:56 ET by well99To the UN.All they have done is set new standards of corruption.Now their new money maker is GW fear.Move them to Rwanda and lets not give them a dime.
edhenry Injury to
November 27, 2007 - 14:58 ET by Edhenryedhenry
Injury to poor
Automatic defendant - US
Damages -$86 Billion
All this should be taken as fact. No examination of causation, hype or estimates. Next article will likely increase numbers and $$ needed. And then there will be more articles repeating the facts & science. UN can the say the deabte is over, fork over your $$$.
Lazy, anti-American media will print this consensus.
Facts and Science
November 27, 2007 - 18:51 ET by teachertechYeah, facts and science are screwed up. Just say no to those empirically trained doctors. Don't drive your science based car. Or shoot the rifled gun designed by some "engineer". No antibiotics because the germ theory of disease is just a theory. Evidently, the Japanese vaporized using atomic theory were vaporized in theory.
Bring the Science
November 27, 2007 - 23:42 ET by PopularTechSo if AGW is based on "Science" please prove it via the scientific method without using computer models.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Floods, droughts and
November 27, 2007 - 15:39 ET by MidAmericaFloods, droughts and other climate disasters will rob millions of children of the decent meals and schools they need unless rich nations pony up $86 billion by 2015 to help the poor adapt to global warming, an expert panel warned Tuesday.
Because of global warming, he said, 600 million people more in sub-Saharan Africa will go hungry from collapsing agriculture, an extra 400 million people will be exposed to malaria and other diseases and an added 200 million will be flooded out of their homes.
**** MINORITIES AND CHILDREN HARDEST HIT****
uuuhhhh... If humans are causing global warming I don't see anything in this massive spending that addresses that. In fact we're saving more people which leads to more of the problem.
Half the $$ to be collected from the U.S.....for starters
November 27, 2007 - 15:53 ET by RJAs we all knew it would, the other shoe of this AGW scam drops. From the very beginning, it's always been about tagging the U.S.
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November 27, 2007 - 17:09 ET by dahliatraversOkay, going along with the pretense that global warming is caused by man, why is this the primary responsibility of the US? Shouldn't the biggest polluting country be the first to write the check?
All other industrialized countries, please form a line behind China.
China
November 27, 2007 - 19:00 ET by teachertechActually, China along with India pollute Sulfur Dioxide which actually has a cooling effect, with Carbon Dioxide. So, they actually provide a net cooling effect. Whereas we produce more CO2. We could cool things down again but we would have to go back to polluting Sulfur Dioxide.
Many volcanoes release sulfur dioxide which can cool the planet. This occured in the 1880's when Krakatoa exploded and why there was frost in June in the northern US in the early 90's after Pinatubo errupted.
Do any of you read anything other then these stupid blogs? I mean has anyone actually read a science article in Nature or Science? I am going to go out on a limb and say "no".
Here's a question. When did a bunch of socialists save a bunch of capitalists from the fascists? When they built the bomb.
Here's a quote
"Even though I have never met a conservative who wasn't stupid, I am sure there are stupid people who aren't conservative."
John Stuart Mill
Actually, China along with
November 27, 2007 - 19:16 ET by MidAmericaActually, China along with India pollute Sulfur Dioxide which actually has a cooling effect, with Carbon Dioxide. So, they actually provide a net cooling effect. Whereas we produce more CO2. We could cool things down again but we would have to go back to polluting Sulfur Dioxide.
Do any of you read anything other then these stupid blogs? I mean has anyone actually read a science article in Nature or Science? I am going to go out on a limb and say "no".
Well we aren't so dumb as to believe China and India produce 'good' pollution.
TT
November 27, 2007 - 19:22 ET by Noel SheppardTT,
Actually, according to the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency, China surpassed the US in CO2 emissions last year.
Furthermore, you certainly aren't advocating greater SO2 emissions, are you?
What was that you were saying about reading? ns
Waaay Beyond Aerosols
November 27, 2007 - 20:01 ET by Mike From CanmoreTT
If you actually read this "stupid" blog, you would know a good chunk of the posters are sooo far beyond lame aerosol arguments, you wouldn't have even thought of bringing it up. Please tell me you have more than that. The aersol argument was dispensed with years ago, except at Real Climate of course. They'll hang on to anything well beyond it's due date.
*There are 2 types of politicians. Those who know AGW is a scam and those who are just stupid.
An interesting fact about CO2
November 27, 2007 - 22:57 ET by HermanoThe warming ability of CO2 is limited because the absorption spectrum of CO2 is nearly saturated. Therefore, as the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere increases the amount of warming caused by CO2 decreases. The "exponentiality" of the GWA regarding CO2 is bunk.
I've read a couple of "Papers"
November 27, 2007 - 23:55 ET by PopularTechPeer-Review Papers Skeptical of "Man-Made" Global Warming:
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A 150,000-year climatic record from Antarctic ice
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A Variable Sun Paces Millennial Climate
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Cyclic Variation and Solar Forcing of Holocene Climate in the Alaskan Subarctic
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Shemesh, Yongsong Huang, Jian Tian, Gerard Bond, Benjamin Clegg, Thomas
Brown
Decadal to millennial cyclicity in varves and turbidites from the Arabian Sea: hypothesis of tidal origin
(Global and Planetary Change, Volume 34, Issues 3-4, Pages 313-325, November 2002)
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Late Holocene approximately 1500 yr climatic periodicities and their implications
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Possible solar origin of the 1,470-year glacial climate cycle demonstrated in a coupled model
(Nature 438, 208-211, 10 November 2005)
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The 1,800-year oceanic tidal cycle: A possible cause of rapid climate change
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The origin of the 1500-year climate cycles in Holocene North-Atlantic records
(Climate of the Past Discussions, Volume 3, Issue 2, pp.679-692, 2007)
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Timing of abrupt climate change: A precise clock
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 30, No. 10, 2003)
- Stefan Rahmstorf
Timing of Millennial-Scale Climate Change in Antarctica and Greenland During the Last Glacial Period
(Science, Volume 291, Issue 5501, pp. 109-112, 2001)
- Thomas Blunier, Edward J. Brook
Widespread evidence of 1500 yr climate variability in North America during the past 14 000 yr
(Geology, v. 30, no. 5, p. 455-458, May 2002)
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Anthropogenic:
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
(Energy & Environment, Volume 10, Number 5, pp. 439-468, 1 September 1999)
- Arthur B. Robinson, Noah E. Robinson, Willie Soon
Global warming
(Progress in Physical Geography, 27, 448-455, 2003)
- W. Soon, S. L. Baliunas
Human Contribution to Climate Change Remains Questionable
(EOS, Transactions, American Geophysical Society, Vol 80, page 183-187, April 20, 1999)
- S. Fred Singer
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(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 31, L05204, 2004)
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Implications of the Secondary Role of Carbon Dioxide and Methane Forcing in Climate Change: Past, Present, and Future
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- Soon, Willie
Methodology and Results of Calculating Central California Surface Temperature Trends: Evidence of Human-Induced Climate Change?
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(Climate Research, Vol. 24: 93–94, 2003)
- Willie Soon, Sallie Baliunas, Sherwood B. Idso, Kirill Ya. Kondratyev, Eric S. Posmentier
On global forces of nature driving the Earth's climate. Are humans involved?
(Environmental Geology, Volume 50, Number 6, August, 2006)
- L. F. Khilyuk and G. V. Chilingar
Quantitative implications of the secondary role of carbon dioxide climate forcing in the past glacial-interglacial cycles for the likely future climatic impacts of anthropogenic greenhouse-gas forcings
(arXiv:0707.1276, 07/2007)
- Soon, Willie
The continuing search for an anthropogenic climate change signal: Limitations of correlation-based approaches
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Antarctica:
First survey of Antarctic sub–ice shelf sediments reveals mid-Holocene ice shelf retreat
(Geology, v. 29; no. 9; p. 787-790, September 2001)
- Carol J. Pudsey, Jeffrey Evans
Orbitally induced oscillations in the East Antarctic ice sheet at the Oligocene/Miocene boundary
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- Curt H. Davis, Yonghong Li, Joseph R. McConnell, Markus M. Frey, Edward Hanna
Arctic
Actual and insolation-weighted Northern Hemisphere snow cover and sea-ice between 1973–2002
(Climate Dynamics, Volume 22, Issue 6-7, pp. 591-595, 2004)
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Scary Arctic Ice Loss? Blame the Wind
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- Richard A. Kerr
Sea-ice decline due to more than warming alone
(Nature 450, 27, 1 November 2007)
- Julia Slingo, Rowan Sutton
CO2 lags Temperature changes:
180 years of atmospheric CO2 gas analysis by chemical methods
(Energy & Environment, Volume 18, Number 2, pp. 259-282(24), March 2007)
- Beck, Ernst-Georg
Ice core records of atmospheric CO2 around the last three glacial terminations
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- Hubertus Fischer, Martin Wahlen, Jesse Smith, Derek Mastroianni, Bruce Deck
Southern Hemisphere and Deep-Sea Warming Led Deglacial Atmospheric CO2 Rise and Tropical Warming
(Science, September 27, 2007)
- Lowell Stott, Axel Timmermann, Robert Thunell
The phase relations among atmospheric CO2 content, temperature and global ice volume over the past 420 ka
(Quaternary Science Reviews, Volume 20, Issue 4, Pages 583-589, February 2001)
- Manfred Mudelsee
Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III
(Science 14, Vol. 299. no. 5613, March 2003)
- Nicolas Caillon, Jeffrey P. Severinghaus, Jean Jouzel, Jean-Marc Barnola, Jiancheng Kang, Volodya Y. Lipenkov
Computer Climate Models:
Effects of bias in solar radiative transfer codes on global climate model simulations
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L20717, 2005)
- Albert Arking
Global Climate Models Violate Scaling of the Observed Atmospheric Variability
(Physical Review Letters, Vol. 89, No. 2, July 8, 2002)
- R. B. Govindan, Dmitry Vyushin, Armin Bunde, Stephen Brenner, Shlomo Havlin, Hans-Joachim Schellnhuber
Greenhouse Theory:
Are observed changes in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere really dangerous?
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- C. R. de Freitas
Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations over the Last Glacial Termination
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(Geology, v. 33; no. 1; p. 33-36, January 2005)
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- Sherwood B. Idso
Does the Earth Have an Adaptive Infrared Iris?
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Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics
(Physics, arXiv:0707.1161)
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Heat capacity, time constant, and sensitivity of Earth's climate system
(Accepted for publication in Journal of Geophysical Research)
- Stephen E. Schwartz
Phanerozoic Climatic Zones and Paleogeography with a Consideration of Atmospheric CO2 Levels
(Paleontological Journal, 2: 3-11, 2003)
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Greenland:
Global Warming and the Greenland Ice Sheet
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Greenland warming of 1920–1930 and 1995–2005
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, 2006)
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Rapid Changes in Ice Discharge from Greenland Outlet Glaciers
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- Ian M. Howat, Ian Joughin, Ted A. Scambos
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- Edward Hanna, John Cappelen
Recent Ice-Sheet Growth in the Interior of Greenland
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Hockey Stick:
A 2000-year global temperature reconstruction based on non-treering proxies
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- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low- and high-resolution proxy data
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Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L03710, 2005)
- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
Proxy climatic and environmental changes of the past 1000 years
(Climate Research, Vol. 23: 89–110, 2003)
- Willie Soon, Sallie Baliunas
Reply to comment by Huybers on "Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance"
(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 32, L20715, 2005)
- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
Reply to comment by von Storch and Zorita on "Hockey sticks, principal components, and spurious significance"
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- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere Climate Index: Update and Implications
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- Stephen McIntyre, Ross McKitrick
Hurricanes:
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- Christopher W. Landsea, Bruce A. Harper, Karl Hoarau, John A. Knaff
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(Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Volume 87, Issue 10, October 2006)
- Philip J. Klotzbach, William M. Gray
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Precipitation: Sensitivity to the Choice of Climate Model and
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- Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Christopher Landsea
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- Christopher W. Landsea
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- R. A. Pielke Jr., C. Landsea, M. Mayfield, J. Laver, and R. Pasch
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(Nature 438, E11, 22 December 2005)
- Roger A. Pielke, Jr
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(Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 22, No. 33, L09708, 2006)
- Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Robert E. Davis
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Kyoto:
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Medieval Warm Period, Little Ice Age and 20th century temperature variability from Chesapeake Bay
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Reconstructing Climatic and Environmental Changes of the Past 1000 Years: A Reappraisal
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- Willie Soon, Sallie Baliunas, Sherwood B. Idso, Craig Idso, David R. Legates
The Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period in the Sargasso Sea
(Science, Vol. 274. no. 5292, pp. 1503 - 1508, 29 November 1996)
- Lloyd D. Keigwin
The Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming in South Africa
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The 'Mediaeval Warm Period' drought recorded in Lake Huguangyan, tropical South China
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The Medieval Warm Period in the Daihai Area
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Tree-ring and glacial evidence for the medieval warm epoch and the little ice age in southern South America
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- Ricardo Villalba
Was the Medieval Warm Period Global?
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- Wallace S. Broecker
Polar Bears:
Polar
bears of western Hudson Bay and climate change: Are warming spring air
temperatures the “ultimate” survival control factor?
(Ecological Complexity, Volume 4, Issue 3, Pages 73-84, September 2007)
- M.G. Dyck, W. Soon, R.K. Baydack, D.R. Legates, S. Baliunas, T.F. Ball, L.O. Hancock
Sea Level:
Estimating future sea level changes from past records
(Global and Planetary Change, Volume 40, Issues 1-2, Pages 49-54, January 2004)
- Nils-Axel Mörner
New perspectives for the future of the Maldives
(Global and Planetary Change, v. 40, iss. 1-2, p. 177-182. 2004)
- Nils-Axel Momer, Michael Tooley, Goran Possnert
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Well, "teacherdolt", you've
November 28, 2007 - 00:01 ET by WanderlustWell, "teacherdolt", you've proven how smart you are regarding your SO2 comment.
Hmm.
First, if CO2 and SO2 emissions have opposite effects, then by your "logic", we should just emit sufficient quantities of each one to allow their individual effects to cancel each other out, right?
But...
Second, the obvious natural mitigation method for CO2 emissions is photosynthesis, turning it into wonderful, breathable O2. You know, that stuff you breathed in before you spewed your screed about conservatives in your comment above. But what is the natural mitigation method for SO2? And if a natural mitigation method for SO2 actually exists, why is the air in so many Chinese cities so horribly polluted with it (and related, true, pollutants) that the locals can hardly breathe?
I know personally from engineering experts I work with (whose company has commissioned many such facilities in China) that China routinely refuses to install SO2 scrubbing equipment on its coal-fired power stations. In some cities, air quality is so poor that people cannot go outside unless they have a mask of some sort to cover their mouths when they breathe. The power stations are offered to China complete with modern, Western-spec gas emission scrubbing equipment included in the designs, but Chinese officials instruct the design engineers to delete the scrubbers.
Oh, and China is currently commissioning coal-fired power stations at a rate of one facility per week, throughout the Chinese mainland.
But hey, all that particulate matter in the air from SO2 will cool the planet, so no worries, right, "teacher"?
/shaking my head
Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"
last time i looked it was
November 28, 2007 - 02:36 ET by PKlast time i looked it was pretty well accepted that plants convert carbon dioxide into oxygen and other byproducts and that co2 was "plant food".
then if we are getting more and more co2, why aren't we seeing more and more plants growing to use the additonal co2 in a sort of "speed governing effect"?
C
PK
November 28, 2007 - 10:11 ET by Noel SheppardPK,
We are. Haven't you read the articles about increased poison ivy as well as spring coming sooner and fall coming later? There was just an article a few weeks back saying that leaves are staying on the trees longer NOT because of temperatures but because of all the additional CO2 in the air.
Like it or not, you've hit on a side of this equation skeptics like me are shocked folks ignore: photosynthesis. How can CO2 be bad when it is involved in such a key process for virtually all life on the planet? ns
Which explains why the
November 28, 2007 - 10:25 ET by dscottWhich explains why the Sahara Desert is greening IMO. The higher the CO2 level, the more drought tolerant plants become. However, perversely, the more plants there are to provide ground cover, the less dust is lofted into the air from the world's deserts to provide iron fertilization of the oceans which inturn promotes photosynthesis on a massive scale. This is all a cycle, It's called the Orbital Monsoon Hypothesis.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.
I think the time is long
November 27, 2007 - 15:56 ET by dscottI think the time is long past to pull out of the UN. We need to kick them out of NY headquarters instead of getting stuck for the remodeling bill and then tell them to let the Europeans host them.
Since when has the State Department needed the UN to talk to other countries, we have diplomats in every country??? Since when does the State Department need to go to the UN to negotiate treaties with other countries??? We can set up ad hoc bodies like the WTO if there is something we all see as important to our interests.
BTW- the UN has little to crow upon regarding the poor of the third world, their incompetence has killed millions of poor people via the DDT ban, the screw ups with powdered milk and starving babies in Africa, the continuing refugee status of Palestinians for over 30 years and the poisoned well water in Bangladesh. These people are so absurdly incompetent they can't be trusted with anything. What the UN has perpetrated by it's utter incompetence in Africa is no less than genocide of the poor, they may as well have spent the money on bullets to give to the Janjaweed to mericifully end the false hope they offered their miserable existances.
And since we are talking about AIDS, the UN through it's stupidity over the misdiagnosing of AIDS inflated those figures which ultimately misdirected the medical care sick people really needed. How many people have needlessly died because they were so busy mis-spending money on expensive AIDS medication when in fact millions of poor sick people could have been treated for easily and cheaply cured diseases that are rampant in Africa???? Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Between the US and Japan, a billion dollars a year in dues to the UN could have gone a long way to helping the poor of Africa, but nooooooo, we got to finance the lifestyles of useless UN bureaucrats via their cushy jobs.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.
I know that some of my
November 27, 2007 - 15:57 ET by Clear thinkerI know that some of my taxes already goes to the UN, which makes me ill.
If I find out that some idiot finds a way to feed the UN more of my money for the Global War on Warming, I will stop paying all taxes to the federal government.
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Energy projects help the poor to become less poor.
November 27, 2007 - 16:27 ET by alamojbEnergy projects can help the poor nations become less poor. How many hydroelectric dams have the environmentalist stopped from being built in developing nations? When I visit some of these environmental websites it is clear they are actively opposing these projects. They try to intimidate the financiers from funding these dams. Much of the American Northwest gets its power from hydroelectric. Solar power is very expensive,even by industrial nation standards, but many of the enviromentalist would force the third world to rely on it. This is one of the reasons Africa is turning increasingly to China for development money. The West has been hamstrung by the environmentalists.
Energy Projects
November 27, 2007 - 18:45 ET by teachertechWhile hyperbole is a problem. There were problems with many of the hydroelectric damns. Especially those built in the tropics where rivers are not very deep and there is lots of vegetation. The warm water combined with rotting vegetation caused the water to become acidic and therefore decrease the life of the damn by half of what was expected.
Also, many locals use waterways for fishing which damns interrupt. Is this all new to everyone?
Avoidance and Excuses
November 28, 2007 - 00:00 ET by PopularTechSo your answer to why environmentalists do not want dams is poor tropical damn engineering? Sorry if I don't buy the excuses.
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Having read this article, I
November 27, 2007 - 16:28 ET by jdhawkHaving read this article, I just up the world temperature by another 1 degree C.
However, for only $86 billion I could probably find a way to cool off . . .
My people will call your people.
Proposal
November 27, 2007 - 16:31 ET by mattmLet's stop all U.S. foreign aid (other than strategic military spending) for one year. And ban all international private charity from Americans to foreigners (other than missionaries). And see what happens to the world.
If there is no change, then they don't need our help anymore. If they find themselves in dire straits, then we can offer them conditional help. They have to adopt a constitutional republican government similar to ours, maintain diplomatic relations only with countries we have diplomatic realations with...etc.
Then, and only then, will we restore aid, which will be cut off as soon as they violate the conditions, or they don't need aid anymore.
Temperatures resulting from GW
November 27, 2007 - 16:50 ET by JDWAbout 6yrs ago it was -70 in Siberia. Spit on the sidewalk and it bounced. Yet the ewackos attributed the freeze to GW.
That same overwhelming cold we experienced here was better for whatever lives in the ANWR region which we cannot disturb in order to drill.
JDW
Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters
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November 27, 2007 - 17:18 ET by dahliatraversAt the risk of sounding cold-hearted, not one penny.
It would be one thing if it had been framed honestly: look at the terrible conditions being inflicted on these poor people by a shift in the climate. Won't you please help?
Instead, on the basis of very poor evidence, we are being told that we have caused this situation and being ordered to pay for it.
No. Your entire premise is wrong. Therefore, there is no basis for me to give any money.
pull out of the UN
November 27, 2007 - 17:31 ET by wizardjrI've been saying that for years. Decades ago they let all these little African dictatorships join as if they were legitimate countries instead of kleptocracies and/or the current winners of the perpetual tribal warfare in Africa.
I think they should pull it all down at Turtle Bay and turn it into a skateboard park. Then we should form an Alliance of Free and Democratic Nations. No fake democracies allowed (i.e., previous verson of Iraq, or current day Egypt).
It serves its purposes
November 28, 2007 - 00:03 ET by PopularTechThe one reason to stay in the UN and keep it US based is we gain a lot of "intel" from hosting the dog and pony show.
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UN can begin at home
November 27, 2007 - 18:59 ET by ThisnThatIf the U.N. wanted a shred of respectability, they would cancel the so-called GW conference in the tropics, and prevent all those private jets from consuming all that fuel. But they can't say no, can they? Yet they try to steal my money by spewing out the liberal keywords: Poor! Children! For the Planet!
Don't they know we've heard it all before? We have Hillary to listen to. And Obama. And Kennedy.
Speaking of Kennedy, why doesn't he UN go after those windmills off of Cape Cod -- a big fat endorsement of those, while skewering Kennedy in the process, might also begin to advance their non-existent credibility.
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TNT
November 27, 2007 - 19:02 ET by Noel SheppardTNT,
Exactly right. They would have held this meeting in NYC, at UN headquarters, and required all attendees to fly on commercial carriers. Limousines would all be of the hybrid variety with cars filled with attendees instead of one or two per. In fact, everything about this meeting would be totally green. Period. Anything less is a hoax.
There is so much this meeting could have done to properly represent "green" principles, and it failed miserably. Even worse, a supposedly green media, and supposedly green politicians, will give all of these hypocrites a pass.
If we only had an honest media; just imagine how much better society would be. ns
Other Green UN Ideas
November 27, 2007 - 19:28 ET by ThisnThatNoel, I think you're on to something here. Commercial jets; hybrid variety limousines filled to capacity are great starts. But why stop there? Other suggestions:
Turn down the thermostat at the UN by 2 degrees. Everyone can wear a sweater.
Serve tap water -- no colas, no drinks. Save on those cans and bottles.
Soup, sandwiches, and salads for lunch -- and then afterwards, everybody out of the building for a two-block trash pickup exercise. Not only would it beautify the surrounding area, but the exercise would do everybody some good.
Finally, keep the meetings short. Everyone quit by 4:00pm so you don't have to turn on the lights. Save some electricity.
It's not much, but it's symbolic -- without the expensive trappings.
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TNT
November 27, 2007 - 19:33 ET by Noel SheppardTNT,
I agree. And, they should all bunk in rooms holding many couples instead of the luxurious suites I reported weeks ago. After all, this requires more energy.
And, they should be using the same sheets and towels for several days rather than fresh ones each morning, as this also requires a lot of needless energy usage.
And, no side trips away from the conference, as, well, ditto.
Forgive me, but if these folks are getting together to create a formata for all of us to live our lives by, they should lead by example or shut up. Period.
After all, the world is coming to an end, right? ns
But that's the point isn't
November 27, 2007 - 20:39 ET by dscottBut that's the point isn't it, they the elites get to decide how the rest of live. Do as I say but not as I do, just like Al Gore.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.
Conservative vs. Extreme
November 27, 2007 - 21:20 ET by ThisnThatIt's just another difference between those that truly want (and know how) to conserve, and the extremests that want only you to conserve. In most cases, those extremests simply want to exercise power in the name of conservation. Like this fall during the San Diego fires -- many people put the blame squarely on the "Conservationists" who have twisted lawsuits preventing brush-cleaning. It's because they have no concept on how to conserve resources -- all they want to do is to exercise power by restricting activities of others.
And it's why people like Gore doesn't think twice about jetting away from his energy-consuming mansion, all the while telling us how bad we all are for breathing. It's just a power-grab by these elitists.
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Agreed, but there is also
November 28, 2007 - 09:56 ET by dscottAgreed, but there is also and second more insidious agenda behind the extremists wanting only us to conserve and not them. That agenda is based on the fallacious zero sum belief system of Socialism. In their world view, all resources and thus wealth is limited. If the standard of living continues to rise for the unwashed massess, in the zero sum belief system, that means they the elite's standard of living must decease to accomodate that rise for everyone else. Hence Al Gore flying around the world in his private jet, having 4 mansions consuming electricity and natural gas like it was after dinner mints telling all of us, that we must conserve to save the planet just so he can maintain his lifestyle. Being the benevolent person Al Gore is he offers the fig leaf of carbon credits to excuse his ravenous lifestyle.
Then followed up by the population bomb conspiracy folks from the other camp of environmental wackos who demand radical reductions in birth rates and lowering the population to less than a billion people world wide. They being the purists of equality, figure the only way to maintain their standard of living and allow for everyone else to have the same is to simply have less people to share those limited resources and wealth.
Because both camps within the AGW cult believe in Socialism, their solutions are to place limits on others, not themselves, to maintain their lifestyles. Thus we have Brad Pitt and the rest of the celeb cult followers of AGW publicly claiming Americans are consuming the planet when in fact, it is they, the celebs with their lifestyles. Remember 5% of the population owns 70% of the personal wealth of the US. 15 million people literally have 2 1/2 times the spending power of the remaining 285 million people, but yet it is demanded that 95% of the population cut back while the 5% buys carbon credits. This is not simply hypocrisy, AGW is a diabolical insidious agenda to keep the elites on top and justify their control and lifestyle. There is nothing wrong with being rich or powerful until you use those riches or power to keep other people down.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.
Unfortunately this
November 27, 2007 - 20:46 ET by DaMavUnfortunately this abomination is chump change. Wait until the lawsuits start pouring in demanding compensation and reparations for the effects of Gore style global warming. This fraud needs to be exposed before our children end up forced to transfer trillions of dollars in wealth every time there is a tsunami or a drought.
Imagine how attractive such lawsuits will be to lawyers.
United Nations
November 27, 2007 - 22:44 ET by David N MOI'm surprised no one has mentioned the Law Of the Sea Treaty (LOST). It is primarily a UN power grab, but not far behind that it's a money grab. What is even more troubling is that being a treaty it circumvents the US constitution. The most bothersome aspect is that Bush is in favor of it.
I really want to say more, but my language starts getting a bit ripe as I continue...
An objective point
November 28, 2007 - 00:04 ET by PopularTechI thought about this for a while and then came to the conclusion, no matter what we sign is anyone really going to tell our carrier battle groups what to do?
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
UN
November 28, 2007 - 00:31 ET by David N MOGiven the obvious corruption within the UN and the attitude of the world as portrayed by the world media, yes I believe they would try. If we were truely at war I hope that our military would tell them where to stick it, but the civilized war of today as it is attempted to be run by our pusilanimous House of Representatives would lay the positioning of our fleets right into the hands of the UN. It honestly makes me fear for the future of our children.
It's a tax.. thats all it is, and lots of programs to choose
November 30, 2007 - 19:38 ET by upcountrywaterfrom
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
So when ARE the Russians going to finish the iranian atoms for peace power plant?