Time’s Joe Klein: ‘Why Drudge Is a Disgrace’

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Time's Joe Klein is unhappy with Matt Drudge, and thinks he's a disgrace.

Why, you ask?

Because Drudge posted a headline at his website Tuesday which Klein thinks is out of context with the linked Associated Press article.

Imagine that.

Here's the beef Klein posted at Time's Swampland blog Tuesday (emphasis added):

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I know this is old news, but this guy is shameless. The headline, with a photo of a three-quarters crazed Hillary, is HEALTH INSURANCE PROOF REQUIRED FOR WORK but the linked story says this:

At this point, we don't have anything punitive that we have proposed," the presidential candidate said in an interview with The Associated Press. "We're providing incentives and tax credits which we think will be very attractive to the vast majority of Americans."

She said she could envision a day when "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination," but said such details would be worked out through negotiations with Congress.

Klein concluded: "How stupid does he think we are? Answer: Extremely dumbolic."

Actually, Joe, if this is what Drudge thinks of your intellectual capacity, I have to agree with him.

After all, here's the money quote from Hillary that I suggest you read veeeerrrry sllllooowwwly: "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination."

Honestly, Joe: What don't you get about that?

If in the future, prospective employees are going to have to show proof of insurance to a prospective employer, wouldn't that indeed mean "HEALTH INSURANCE PROOF REQUIRED FOR WORK?"

Seems pretty simple to understand, so much so that even a third grader would.

Want me to get you a third grader to help you with this in the future?

This raises an important question that certainly all interested parties would love Klein to answer: Has his desire for a Hillary presidency, along with his push for universal healthcare, so clouded his judgment that it's now impeding his reading comprehension skills?

I'll be sure to post Klein's response to this question as soon as he gets back to me.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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Joe, Joe, Joe

Hillary and the NY Times think Americans are stupid.  That why they think she will be president and will want this health plan and will agree to a communistic economy.

No thanks Joe.  You can give all of your money to the government.  I'll keep mine.

“Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.”  Ronald Reagan

"Hillary and the New

"Hillary and the New York Times think Americans are stupid."

Eight years of Clinton/Gore gives them good reason to believe that.  Nearly 1/3 of Americans believe that 9-11 was an inside job (if the polls are to be believed, which is problematic in itself), which gives them good reason to believe that.  Need I go on? 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

"Hillary and the New York Times think Americans are stupid."

Eight years of Clinton/Gore gives them good reason to believe that.  Nearly 1/3 of Americans believe that 9-11 was an inside job

It's a given that about 1/3 (33%) of our population is blindly, ignorantly, and stupidly following Clinton/Gore/Kerry/Obama socialism.  The bigger problem is if they can convince another 17% go go along with them.

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

I hate to ask the obvious

I hate to ask the obvious question... but if you have a government funded $110,000,000,000 plan... and then incentivise it with "tax credits," how the hell are you going to pay for it with tax money that you're no longer collecting?

Of course I already know the answer.... steal it form the rich.  It's not like any of them worked hard to get there.

Let's see: 

Let's see:  $110,000,000,000 (so-called plan cost) divided by 47,000,0000 (uninsured) = $2340.00.

So, billary is proposing to do what no one has yet to do.  Offer complete medical coverage for under $2500 per year/per person. 

That's about a third of what the actual cost per person is in America. 

Is it just me or are the particulars of this plan being entirely avoided by the drive by media? 

Hmmmm

If the "plan" is attractive to the majority of Americans, who is the target?  The currently uninsured?

 Also, if "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview -" how does that work?  Does this mean she envisions government health insurance that will cover you regardless of the employer?  If you have proof of coverage, why would the employer need to provide health insurance?

Joe Klein and Dr. Drudge

Having just come off of Swampland reading Joe Klein, I decided to post here where it would be read by intelligent people.

Klein quotes this on Hillary, ""you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part
of the job interview — like when your kid goes to school and has to
show proof of vaccination."

.......and is complaining Drudge had a headline which stated you had to have health insurance proof for a job. That is exactly what Hillary was saying, because you can not be in school unless your vaccinations are up to date.

Apparently Klein like ALL LIBERALS when no one is visiting their sites needs to feature Drudge and then people visit the Time site. I saw 1585 comments on the Klein sentences which were a number of "bunker liberals" screaming at right wing bloggers and Bush as they had no facts and could not understand that Klein is a putz.

Not being on Swampland, it seems that after Klein ambushed Dick Armey this past summer that Time can not get any more people to show up and get bashed around by the resident pug.

It is a wonderful day when a man who is a millionaire liberal gets out of bed hateful, goes to work hateful as Drudge drives the news and not Klein and then goes to bed hateful knowing his best years are behind him.........and his only salvation is not Jesus, but a Hillary to bring him out of the hell he is in now.

Drudge must sit back and just laugh all day musing about the bunker Klein mob.

 

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Look at the Swampland Blog.... WOW GO THERE!

Taking a breather from compiling and loading HEX.. (BLAHHH!)

Have you seen the sheer idiocy over at the Swampland blog:
http://time-blog.com...

If you can scroll past the all shouting and foaming, you get to a gem. "Wait till the new 'Regime'takes over!!" You have to stand in awe of these lunatics. And we thought the extremists were confined to DKOS and th like... Wrong. These moon-bats are the base, and majority.

The American Revolution Continued

publik ejucation is reaping

publik ejucation is reaping what it has sown

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Huked awn fonix werkt 4 me!

~~~

If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them!

I did

Do left wingers get a discount on lobotomies?Reading some of the post I believe they do.Reading comprehension must not be high on their skills list.

Morons

Reader Comments
Posted by the KOS KIDZ
September 18, 2007
DRUDGE IS A NEOCON LOSER LIKE THE REST OF THEM!
HE WILL BE THE FIRST TO GO WHEN THE NEW REGIME TAKES OVER!!!!!

THUS SAYS MARKOS!
THUS SAY WE ALL!

Posted by the KOS KIDZ
September 18, 2007
WE HERE AT SWAMPLAND ARE NOT STUPID BECAUSE WE ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED AND OPEN MINDED PROGRESSIVES. DRUDGE'S BS ONLY WORKS ON KNUCKLEDRAGGER NEOCONS IN FLYOVER COUNTRY WHO LISTEN TO TOBY KEITH! WE WILL NOT BE FOOLED!!!

Posted by Florida
September 18, 2007
It's an even bigger disgrace that so many Beltway media types approach stories with a view to getting linked by Drudge and write books with chapters titled, "Matt Drudge Rules Our World." Let's see, who was it who wrote that? Oh yeah, it was Time's very own Mark Halperin.

Posted by Kryptik
September 18, 2007
"How stupid does he think we are? Answer: Extremely dumbolic"

Well...considering how revered he remains amongst serious pundits and newsmen alike...it sounds like he's got that spot on. How much do you want to bet that this will be the narrative that CNN, WaPo, etc. run with tomorrow morning?

Posted by Hoplite
September 18, 2007
The palooka sure gets worked up about Hillary's healthcare plan. I wish I wasn't so cynical that I suspect it's because her plan is a lot like the one he advocates, which means his all important ego is involved. But I am that cynical.

Posted by Elvis Elvisberg
September 18, 2007
He's part of the right-wing message machine. Why would anyone think that honesty and accuracy are expected, much less encouraged?

Drudge readers, like Fox viewers, think that WMD were found in Iraq, and that we invaded because the rest of the world demanded it after Saddam was proven to have flown the planes on 9/11.

These are the people the GOP presidential candidates are hoping to reel in, BTW.

Posted by the KOS KIDZ
September 18, 2007
YES ELVIS - THEY ARE IDIOTS - WE KNOW THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND HAVE THE PROOF OF IT (WTC 7) YET THE NEOCONS FAIL TO REALIZE THE TRUTH. THEY ARE MORONS!

Posted by Ray Arnsberger
September 18, 2007
Well, you and other pundits bought the Petraeus-Crocker/GOP In a Snit Over Move-On ad hook, line and sinker, didn't you, while Pew and CBS polls show THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WEREN'T SO EASILY SNOOKERED, so why don't you think Drudge assumes that at least the punditocracy and commentariat are "dumbolic"? If it looks like a loon and...

Posted by Not_Dumbolic
September 18, 2007
Ray A, it was the Petraeus-Crocker Potemkin traveling show they bought. It was so good Klein and the other pundits were licking their lips and trying to go back for seconds. Does "dumbolic" even barely describe these far too influential people?

Posted by kbanginmotown
September 18, 2007
Hoplite: good call!
Elvis: also true! The sad part is that the lemmings that make up the MSM either:
1) latch on to D's blinking lights (see: Dean's scream and Hil's southern drawl),
2) don't hold D's feet to the fire for past headline-farts (remember Kerry's "intern problem" non-story?), or
3) finally realize on 18Sep07 that "this guy is shameless", demonstrating an intuitive grasp of the obvious. Sheesh.
Ana: When to we get to register?

Posted by Memekiller
September 18, 2007
Glad to see someone not running blind with another Drudge headline. How many times does this guy have to be wrong before people stop believing him?

Posted by nickzi
September 18, 2007
Why waste space promoting Drudge? Ignore him and cut off his oxygen. Of course he puts up misleading and dramatic headlines without a real story - the guy wants attention! Now, could we have a real indepth look at the sabre-rattling over Iran? That's a serious issue, not the Sludge Report. Repeat after me: I will erase the name Drudge from my consciousness. I will not promote that slimy little attention whore (SLAW), whose name I have now forgotten.

Posted by SF Bear
September 18, 2007
Joe:

Sad thing is, you're not much better.

Those MoveOn pieces were an outright embarrasment. Talk about "dumbolic!"

Posted by Tom
September 18, 2007
The last time that Rodham attempted to forcibly collectivize one seventh of the United States economy, NBC so-called "news" enthusiastically gave Rodham two or three hours of uninterupted time to promote her plan to model one seventh of the U.S. ecomomy after a Soviet five year plan. Will NBC so-called "news" again give Rodham two or three hours to promote her latest scheme? Also, why are political lobbying/advocacy groups like NBC so-called "news" allowed to spend unlimited and unregulated amounts of money to promote their political agendas and favored candidates (i.e., members of the Democrat party), but normal people are prevented from doing so under the McCain-Feingold Political Speech Suppression Act?

Posted by sam bragg
September 18, 2007
I think it is odd that in order to prove a point you have to type in all caps. I never read those comments but you probaly had good meaning.

Posted by Scott
September 18, 2007
Drudge is more balanced than any of the main stream media channels. Let's be honest the bias reporting that NBC, CBS, and CNN put forth everyday is nothing but liberal editorial ranting. Maybe the liberal BS and big government programs carry weight on the coasts. It never has carried weight in the so called fly over country. Why doesn't the Democrat call itself what it is the Socialist Party of the United States or Soros Inc.

Posted by Jose Narof
September 18, 2007
DRUDGE TOLD THE TRUTH AND BEFORE HILLARY GETS DONE WITH THIS NATION WE WILL LOOK LIKE SOVIET RUSSIA.

GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY LIBERALS YOU ARE TRAITORS!!

Posted by Socialism IS slavery
September 19, 2007
Looks like the NeoCommunists are frustrated that they no longer have total control over what we see and read. Maybe one day you will get the power to purge those of us who value our freedom more than life, until then you are a harmless blowhard who cant get his way.

Posted by T Luke
September 19, 2007
Let's see .... show an insurance card as part of a job interview. For what possible reason??? Oh, so you can be allowed to work. No, that's not "proof of health insurance required to work" is it? Just be honest ---- you libs want socialized medicine, plain and simple. Just let the words roll off your lips, you know you want it. And, you want to punish those who don't sign on to the 'national universal coverage' plan by forcing them to the ranks of the unemployed or to punish those who hire them. American citizens will have less rights to work than illegal aliens.

But, in honesty's name, the Repubs are no better. They've blathered on about limited government and lower taxes for years, but spend like money grows on trees. Well, we're the trees, and liberals and conservatives alike are shaking us to death. I'm sick of all of 'em. It's time for a libertarian-spirited revolution in this country, a revolt.

Posted by James
September 19, 2007
Joe Klein can't get over the fact that it's over.

You're irrelevant, Joe.

Being a Clinton coatholder is ^so^ 1992.

Posted by linda
September 19, 2007
http://www.dailykos....

Hey, Joe. The thinking world knows Drudge is Sludge but he does have a vast audience of lazy 'journalists' who love to spread the Rovian word.

My question to you is, is Time-CNN developing a MoveOn.MSM policy of nothing to see here, so move on when it comes to the DoD, DoJ, DoS, HS, and the total idiots that are playing with their heads in the sand and their itchy, twitchy finger on the button. Is Waxman the only one who cares? Or Webb? Or Murtha? Or a few others?

Taking a failing war and a failing foreign policy off of the front page won't make it go away or make it all better. It won't reset the military or settle the unrest. Our troops aren't quitting. Why is the press?

Health Care is an issue. But nothing is really a happening right now. My guess is that it isn't even cut in stone yet. I mean Hil will have many more focus groups before the IA caucuses.

My guess is that Drudge will continue with all kinds of distractions to keep the lemmings from discussing the US's precarious position in the ole world neighborhood.

Posted by Dude
September 19, 2007
Who is this Joe Klein guy?

Posted by YRU so angry
September 19, 2007
Amazing, a Time reporter calling Drudge biased. Time is nothing more than a tool for the left wing fanatics. The reason he hates Drudge so much is Drudge hit a liberal nerve. Hillary will promote mandatory health insurance. Wait and see. Of course she won't say so now. Votes are at stake and the truth has no place in her speeches now. How does anyone think she will pay for her "plan"? Working slobs will foot the bill, they always do.

The American Revolution Continued

Oh, that is a hoot,

Oh, that is a hoot, Spiff.  Especially KosKidz' second post.  "We are highly educated and open minded progressives ..." (note: that means Communists).

"Knuckle-dragging Neocons in flyover country..." (We elites in Manhattan and on the left coast are so much smarter and better than the great horde of unwashed peasants in the heartland)"who listen to Toby Keith" (Toby says he is a Democratic and votes that way).

Let's look at some more of KosKidz's highly educated open mindedness, okay?  "We know that 9/11 was an inside job, and have the proof of it (WTC 7), yet the neocons fail to realize the truth.  They are morons."  Ronaldus Magnus once said, "The trouble with liberals is they know so much that just ain't so."

It's a wonder anyone lets this KosKidz guy out without a keeper.  And, from the way he keeps screaming, his keeper forgot to give him his meds.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Joe Klein

When I was reading Klein's surprising comments on Drudge earlier this morning, I couldn't help but think that this is what must be passing for reading comprehension amongst the true-believing socialist left these days.

Joe Klein is nothing more than a (bitter) propaganda puke for the hard-left.

And not a very bright one, at that.

-BTW-Does that above pic of him look as though he was just picked up for flashing in Central Park. The only thing missing is the little sign one always sees in mug shots.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

I would like to find out

I would like to find out from Joe DeKlein, the official intepretor of Hillary-peak, since we are all mandated into getting a health insurance plan are the physicians now mandated into accepting them? I thought that is a small point that may be overlooked.

 

Purple Monkey Dishwasher

Give Joel a break.  He probably heard this third, fourth or fifth hand.  And if enough liberals whisper news from ear to ear it ends up "Purple Monkey Dishwasher."

 

<insert witty signature here>

Immigration in the middle of this

...you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a
part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has
to show proof of vaccination.

As one of the commentors said at Klein's blog, "Does this now mean that they can force people to show proof of citizenship?"

The Question I'd ask

Excuse me Ms. Hildabeast, just how do you give tax credits to people who aren't paying any Federal income tax in the first place? 

 

"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one."

Alexander Hamilton

With the Earned Income Tax

With the Earned Income Tax Credit.  People who pay no taxes can get a tax "refund".  People who have had a little bit of taxes withheld can get back more than they paid in.

With Democratics in charge of the tax laws and the printing presses, they can make us all wealthy.</sarcasm>

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

correction, MikeB...

That should be Unearned Income Tax Credit.

[Steal from the rich and give to the poor.]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

LK, true enough, but so

LK, true enough, but so many politicians, especially marxist politicians subscribe to the Humpty Dumpty school on the meaning of words: "When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean..." The marxist definition may have no relation whatsoever with the common and/or dictionary definition.

Another example would be oh, say, "investment". To a marxist that means taxes. Yet another prime example appears further down this thread, when blaster uses the word "lie" to mean the truth. I'm sure you can recall other such definitions.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

"How stupid does he

"How stupid does he (Drudge) think we are?"

 Actually Joe, he thinks most people reading his site are smart enough to understand simple English. But since you can't see how Hillary saying she can envision a day where "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination" as being proof of health insurance requirerd for work, I guess he would think Joe Klein is VERY stupid!

And darn funny, Joe, how you call Matt a "disgrace" and "shameless" but yet think nothing of yet more Hillary Rodham fundraising scandals!

You follow the modus operandi of your girl Hillary well, Joe. Demonize anyone who criticizes or reports anything negative (but in this case it was simply quoting Hillary's own words about her own plan!!) about the Clintons.

Joe Klein clearly read this Drudge report and said, "Now who am I going to believe? Certainly not my lying eyes!"

A liberal persuaded against his will is of the same opinion still

you have to show proof to

you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview - like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination"

well then just say 'no habla ingles' since this is a valid exemption for the vaccination requirement it should also work for health insurance

Uh, what the heck does

Uh, what the heck does "dumbolic" mean?

why do you ask was it on

why do you ask was it on your last evaluation?

you're completely wrong...

"...so clouded his judgment that ..."

you have made a significant error - the man has no judgement (otherwise why would he hang out with the KOSmonuts?)

regards,
chuck in st paul

That's funny.

Klein doesn't like Drudge because he quotes EXACTLY what Hillary says, instead of spinning it like Klein does.

You know what else is funny? If the trends continue, more people will get their news from honest accurate Drudge than get it from the lying and biased NYT.



The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com

What a shame, Drudge is the

What a shame, Drudge is the most fair and balanced news source out there! I thought Klein would like that kind of reporting. Wait...

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln

Klein doesn't like Drudge

Klein doesn't like Drudge because he quotes EXACTLY what Hillary says, instead of spinning it like Klein does.

or   the MSM doesn't like Drudge because he quotes EXACTLY what Hillary says, instead of spinning it like the MSM does.

You know what else is funny? If the trends continue, more people will get their news from honest accurate Drudge than get it from the lying and biased NYT.

bingo..that's exactly what I do.  Log-on, read Drudge, check gold prices (Kitco), check e-mail, then procede to NewsBusters.  No MSM in there anywhere, except going to CNN and directly on to SI for sports.

v

gotta love drudge

Just the sound of his names puts liberals on Prosac. I've been reading the posts on Joe's blog and he is getting hammered by the conservatives, it seems the lefties are going crazy trying to respond to the overwhelming majority of conservatives - if they only had drudges numbers....

Klein's Angst

This is what really irks "journalists" like Klein: They can no longer lie, stretch the truth, "forget" facts, give only one side (their side, of course) of the story. Their bias is spotted immediately and spread around the world on the internet.
The funniest aspect of all this is watching them try to squirm out of their lies. That alone is worth the price of the ticket.

Klein

I stopped reading anything by Klein that he doesn't sign as "Anonymous".

C'mon Klein!  You're

C'mon Klein!  You're telling me a right-wing net-rag published a lie and you're surprised??  Get real!

Do tell, what lie was told

Do tell, what lie was told in this instance?

Khyris,

I think Blaster here is suffering from the same reading-comprehension malady that Klein is.

The obtuseness of these people is astounding. You have to wonder how it is they manage to actually support themselves.

Oh wait, I forgot....

When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

In the most decent and

In the most decent and civil manner, I am not going to leap to that conclusion, and instead allow him to answer a very simple, direct, and honest question.

We are not MoveOn.org, and I will not label blaster as a liar before he even has a chance to defend himself and his position, merely because the position might be unpopular... a courtesy not extended to Drudge.

So... what lie, specifically, was told by Drudge in this instance?

  I followed this story

 

I followed this story through to the end and read ALL the articles referenced in the postings; my final conclusion is that Joe is an idiot, multi-millionaire or not. He is either blinded by IBS (Irritable Bush Syndrome) or has the Reading Comprehension Skills of a two year old.

 

And to my amazement, he still has people (moonbats) that have the same reading level as his, that actually agree with his POV, un-freeking believeable.

 

As a side note; I am only a high school grduate from the Pubic Education System, but Common Sense was common in my household.

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

Klein Dike Bar

Is it not obvious that if Pant Suit is Prez, that KleinWig will be appointed Head of HEW, or Ambassador to Belguim?  He will then appoint Britney Spears as his traveling ASSistant.....

}}---> Klein Dike Bar

A klein Dike Bar is a drinking establishment for midget lesbians isn't it?

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Goodie, Klein has probably

Goodie, Klein has probably been promised the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve System if comrade Hillery gets elected. That would be the position where he could do the most damage to our economy.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Card carrying party member

Why not just make one card that denotes you are a member of the "People's Party" and it will be understood that you are covered by socialized medicine.  They need to skip this preliminary stuff and go straight to showing their pride in their political party.  Maybe they can even let card holders shop in special stores and ride in the front of the bus.  Nothing should be too good for a real card carrying party member.  <disfunctional conspiracy sarcasm>

one card that denotes you are a member of the "People's Party"..

...and maybe mark them all with 666...

v

I can't believe anyone on the political left

Would DARE to complain about inaccurate/biased headlines, given what I've seen. I'd have to say, headline-writing is probably the area of the MOST pro-big-government media bias.

Besides, Matt's "Nice Cannes" headline happens to be one of the funniest I've ever seen, and if Kerry's daughter didn't want that she shouldn't have worn a see-thru dress. :)
JMR

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