MoveOn's "General Betray Us" advertisement in Monday's New York Times could end up being the gift that keeps on giving.
Though most of the Democrat presidential candidates have distanced themselves from this disgrace, John Edwards' wife Elizabeth made some remarks in Iowa Friday that have drawn the ire of leading netroots member Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake (h/t Protein Wisdom).
For those that have forgotten, Hamsher rose in infamy to national prominence last August when she posted a picture of Sen. Joe Lieberman in blackface.
This time, Hamsher was irked by the following remarks made by Edwards as reported by the Des Moines Register (emphasis added):
"Someone who's spent their life in the military doesn't deserve ‘General Betray Us,'" said Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards.
Elizabeth Edwards spoke in an interview after a Des Moines campaign appearance. She noted that her father was a career naval officer, and she grew up on Navy bases, so she said she respects military service.
[...]
Elizabeth Edwards said the group could have made its point by simply using Petraeus' own previous words about purported good news in Iraq without insulting him personally.
She said she generally supports grass-roots organizations like MoveOn.org for giving average people a voice. "But I'm probably not going to agree with everything that any one group says."
Sounds reasonable, wouldn't you agree? Well, Hamsher didn't think so, and actually posted a letter to Edwards Saturday:
Dear Mrs. Edwards,
You're a smart woman.
[...]
So I was really disappointed today to read at Taylor Marsh's place that you had joined with Diaper Dave Vitter and John "McCarthy" McCain to attack MoveOn. We (and by that I mean the netroots) defend you when the MSM try to make your campaign a pinata over stupid, insignificant stuff. When they try to say your race should end because of your illness, but don't say squat about Fred Thompson's lymphoma. We're your first line of defense, the only messaging machine that progressives have.
So here's the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. You never enter that echo chamber as a participant. Ever. You never give them a hammer to beat the left with. Just. Don't. Do. It.
Can you imagine the gall? This is what the Democrat Party has wrought by bowing at the altar of these far-left bloggers.
Alas, this one wasn't finished:
Understand that they [MoveOn] have contributed a lot to the anti-war movement and that from a practical standpoint, the Edwards campaign needs the solid support of the base to get where he needs to go and everybody's feeling a bit played this week because nobody other than MoveOn seems to want to take on the carefully orchestrated dog-and-pony show that just bought us a few more Friedman Units of war. And we're not very happy when the people we defend turn around and start kicking them for it.
We love you. We want to love you.
Knock it off.
Incredible. See what happens when you give people power that not only don't deserve it, but have absolutely no idea what to do once they've obtained it?
Fortunately, as a result of the Internet, we on the right can pull up a chair with a bowlful of popcorn and enjoy the show.
Someone pass the beer nuts.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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Sounds Familiar..
September 16, 2007 - 01:12 ET by Conservative_in_mass."So here's the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. You never enter that echo chamber as a participant. Ever. You never give them a hammer to beat the left with. Just. Don't. Do. It."
I think you would have heard something like this about 74 years ago in a building called the Reichstag in a city called Berlin...
I think the Dems have their hands full....
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
What a PAB
September 16, 2007 - 01:20 ET by well99Sounds like the
September 16, 2007 - 01:46 ET by ChriswelLSounds like the mafia.
"Cooperate or we're gonna whack ya!"
-cs™
Or Jesse
September 16, 2007 - 09:13 ET by ThisnThatOr Jesse Jackson.
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You're right Noel, watching
September 16, 2007 - 02:01 ET by RESTLESS 1You're right Noel, watching the left eat their own is hysterical. I just wish the msm would report this stuff. I have a great lounger in the living room, and the chair in front of the computer is not nearly as comfortable. Think I'll join you for a beer and a laugh though.
So here's the rule. You
September 16, 2007 - 03:00 ET by Johnnye BSo here's the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. You never enter that echo chamber as a participant. Ever. You never give them a hammer to beat the left with. Just. Don't. Do. It.
Wow! What a BITCH!
No more backbone the democratic party has I'm pretty sure they will all obey.
All democratic candidates repeat after me. "Yes Mistress Jane. I am your bitch". Like she doesn't already know it. You bunch of idiots!
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Is it netroots or nutroots?
September 16, 2007 - 03:07 ET by ckc1227Is it netroots or nutroots?
“HERE’S THE
September 16, 2007 - 04:13 ET by USA4freedom“HERE’S THE RULE?????????”
You pompous pile of crap.
Here is the rule a$$ hole. It’s called the first amendment!
Who would have believed that we on New Busters would be
defending the Edward’s first amendment rights.
I guess the Edwards would have to look at Move on with
the thoughts in their heads of Who Betrayed Who??
“We
love you. We want to love you.
Knock
it off.”
Wow
does this not sound like a wise guy standing in the doorway of your store and
saying, nice place you got here, it would be a shame to see it burn down one of
these nights, huh? Look, I like ya, so knock it off, or forgetaboutit.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
“We're your
September 16, 2007 - 04:28 ET by USA4freedom“We're
your first line of defense, the only messaging machine that progressives have.”
If
you don’t count NYT, LA Times, Boston Globe, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSMBC, CNN, TIME,
NEWSWEEK, BBC, Times UK, the UN! Hollywood, and their movies, and the idiots
that play the parts. Then(basically every news paper in America) and.. well its
just easier to list the non-left wing message machine, Fox news, Talk radio,
and the internet.
See,
the “real Message” here is: “you” have NO message unless its “our message” got
it??
And
they talk about how Bush is a hand puppet to Chaney.
Or
that Bush has no brain, someone has to think for him.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Hey don’t get me wrong,
September 16, 2007 - 04:36 ET by USA4freedomHey
don’t get me wrong, (politically) I pray that Move on keeps it up. I want them
to get even more crazy. That add tells you all you need to know. I want them to
just run free, like the crazed mutts they are.
Hell,
take out more adds in left run, and read news papers. Maybe a nice add in
Mother Jones? Or.. maybe MSMBC?
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Thanks, USA, that's the
September 16, 2007 - 05:26 ET by motherbeltThanks, USA, that's the line that got ME, too. LOL.. your ONLY message machine???? HAHAHAHA!! Oh, that's rich!!
OMG, and what Mrs. Edward said was relatively mild!!
The reply:
So here's the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. You never enter that echo chamber as a participant. Ever. You never give them a hammer to beat the left with. Just. Don't. Do. It. -Hamsher
Sounds like Michael Corleone in "The Godfather" to his little brother Fredo: You're my brother and I love you. But never take sides with anyone against the family.
Got that Elizabeth (and Silky Pony too!)?? When they want you to talk, they'll tell you what to say!!
Sounds like Michael
September 16, 2007 - 05:54 ET by Jack BauerI hear that MoveOn dot Corleone has asked for a private meeting with Elizabeth next week... on a fishing boat on Lake Tahoe!
Private Hamsher or
September 16, 2007 - 06:05 ET by Jack BauerThe dems have sold their
September 16, 2007 - 08:43 ET by MidAmericaThe dems have sold their souls to the devil and now the devil is coming for his due.
Just. Don't. Do. It.
September 16, 2007 - 08:54 ET by general companyWe love you. We want to love you.
Is their no end to these knuckleheads hypocrisy. Sick folks that is for sure. Do what we say or or or we will SCREAM.
Well, have at it fruitcake!!!
To bad they dont work this hard to disapline their own children
Shoe's on the other foot, now
September 16, 2007 - 09:19 ET by ThisnThatSo, Liz is all upset because her father was was a career naval officer? How does it feel, Liz, to suddenly understand that words, expressions, and ideas really do have meaning, and they they can actually affect people? That's the difference between our worlds. The Liberal world of make-believe, and the Conservative world of real-life. While the conservatives are trying to work, raise families, and maintain the values of this nation, the Libs sit around and engage in fantasy-speak.
Keep that in mind the next time you start your own attacks, Liz. Like showing up on MSNBC and sandbagging someone.
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Think Liz will go after
September 16, 2007 - 10:48 ET by HypocriteHaterThink Liz will go after Jane about changing the tone of her political rhetoric for the sake of the children? Nah! Wrong party affiliation.
I'm with you, TnT....
September 16, 2007 - 10:55 ET by motherbeltI'm with you, TnT....
Hey Liz, Karma's a bitch!
Liberal Bloggers have no Moral Code
September 16, 2007 - 12:28 ET by Lame CherryThe whole premise of Liz Edwards as the cancer weapon like Tim Johnson being the vegetable brain weapon in South Dakota (he is the one who perfected using one's cancer wife as weapon) is that normal people have codes like they will not attack sick people, molested children, women of any sort making them cry and people who have hit the bottom rung.
Liberal bloggers though only care about winning. They remind me in American history of the Indian wars where such as the Minnesota uprising Indians who were living with white settlers simply upon war starting, bashed in baby's brains they used to play with and then tied naked girls to the wall and raped them, followed by carving them into fillet pieces. There is this same amoral code among liberals in cheering Liz being a racist in attacking the enemy Joe Lieberman, but will turn on her in an instant she denounces one of their own in Moveon.
A Conservative will have no aversion to pointing out facts in Liz Edwards political forays, but stay away from her personal problems. Liberals instead will point out things like Tony Snow "I hope you die" or "You deserve cancer".
In more familiar terms, this is why liberal women can abort their own children as they are this self centrist in "me me me" that anything, including their own child is an enemy if it supplants them. You can look back in history in Bush 41 getting his gonads cut off by Clinton and just taking it. Republicans were completely disarmed by Hillary, because all of them were swatted by their parents to be nice to girls.
On the contrary, liberal boys and girls in their "home environment" by the rape, molestation and abuse national cases in Clinton, Kennedy and the Woodruff household being written about by Lee Woodruff all show a niche where women are treated like Muslim property. To be more to the point, liberals are the jocks in school date raping women and grow up to be politicians and lawyers condoning it.......and finding women who will accept this anti social behavior.
Liz Edwards is a bully and John is her "yes man" husband, but in her military type background there is the same disconnect for humanity which allowed Hugh Hefner for years to exploit military brat girls looking for attention as daddy was always gone.
None of that is a situation or environment I would ever want any male or female of my to be involved in as it is quite sadistic and third world. It reflects nothing of the Christian households America was based in as one reads of the English, French, Scot, Irish and Germans who settled here.
It is distressing as there are now about 100 million of these creatures all around America with an infusion of illegal 3rd worlders from Mexico, Russia and China making a Liz Edwards liberal bloggers cauldron that is infecting this nation with a barbarism that is shifting toward savagery.
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So here's the rule. You
September 16, 2007 - 13:36 ET by Dave RSo here's the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever.
Arrogant little snots, these nutjobs.
So, EE is getting an abject lesson in who really are the true NAZIs in this country. I doubt it will make much difference in the end, as I believe many more democrats than we are comfortable admitting actually support what the far-left kook fringe advocates, but are afraid to admit it publicly.
I bet Joseph Goebbels is smiling right now.
What I would like to see are more conservatives speaking out on this. Won't happen, as the republicans are currently lost in the wilderness of irrelevancy, but it would be nice if more of them would make a little noise here.
"I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!”- Rick Roberts
I'm not really believing
September 16, 2007 - 21:06 ET by Chris NormanI'm not really believing this renouncing of MoveOn by the Dems. Their protests are pretty thin and weak. It's plain to see that they're saying only the bare minimum of what's necessary to qualify as a "renouncement".
Any idea how many $$ George
September 16, 2007 - 22:20 ET by maggieqpublicAny idea how many $$ George Soros passes on to moveon?
Would a successful 2008 Democratic presidential candidate provide moveon with an invisible cabinet seat?
Just how much power does this Soros guy have, anyhow?
These Berkeley-based moveon advocates sure are militant for a group that hates the military (oh, that's right, they don't hate the military).
Elizabeth Edwards... prepare for the Gulag. You've broken the rules.