
If you needed any more evidence as to how little actor Alec Baldwin actually knows about politics, it was provided Saturday evening in the second sentence of his article at the Huffington Post (emphasis added):
"Even though [then Rep. Larry] Craig voted to censor Barney Frank for Frank's tryst with a male prostitute."
To begin with, Alec, the term is censure.
Adding insult to injury, a vote on censuring Frank never happened, for as reported by the New York Times on July 20, 1990 (emphasis added):
The House ethics committee voted today to recommend that Representative Barney Frank receive a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute, Congressional officials said.
The committee's unanimous vote in a closed meeting ended months of deadlock among its 12 members over how harsh a punishment was appropriate, and the outcome was a stronger penalty than committee Democrats had wanted. One faction, led by Democrats, had pressed for a mild rebuke so the matter would not have to go to the full House. But some Republicans on the committee insisted on a stronger action, the officials said.
[...]
Although a reprimand is stronger than many members of the committee had wanted, it is not considered as severe as a censure or expulsion from the House.
In the end, the House voted in favor of the reprimand by a margin of 408 to 18, meaning, Alec, that virtually every member in the chamber agreed with the reprimand.
Regardless, this is just another example of liberal Hollywoodans knowing absolutely nothing about civics, even less about history, but feeling that their position as actors gives them the right to say whatever they want, regardless of accuracy, with total impunity.
Stick to acting, Alec, for your knowledge of anything actually important to anyone other than yourself is abysmally lacking.
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....Stick to Acting, Alex
September 1, 2007 - 20:09 ET by neighbBetter yet, Alex....stick to keeping your promise to leave the country if Bush was re-elected. You ain't for *%$^& as an actor.
neighb
Who is Alex?
September 1, 2007 - 21:04 ET byThe story is about his grammatical error, and I was about to post with "who's going to notice on this site anyway?" and then didn't have to. You proved it.
Actually, YOU proved MY point!
September 1, 2007 - 21:28 ET by neighbThe poynt of my intensenal germattikal errer wuz juust to git a rize outta annuther lefty...an shore nuff it did! Youse guys juust haffta stard litten up!!
neighb
Gooooolly!
September 2, 2007 - 20:02 ET by goldenthroatIt sur es good tew no that their our sucht intillijint peephole on the NB whebsight - used tew bee that I kouldn't spel gradiate and now eye is won!
"Yeah, that's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan
goldun... and hear i thot
September 2, 2007 - 20:12 ET by bigtimergoldun...
and hear i thot i wuz awl bye my loansum....
The story is about his
September 2, 2007 - 07:59 ET by Tom1969caFirst of all, censor versus censure is not a grammatical error, it is a spelling error.
However, the more important point is that Barney Frank was neither censured nor censored; he was reprimanded. In the in-house discipline structure of Congress these are two vastly different punishments, and so the story is that Baldwin (as usual) doesn't know what he's talking about because he couldn't be bothered to take 30 seconds to Google the difference between censure and reprimand.
Baldwin then further makes himself look stupid by making it sound as if Craig's vote was crucial in Frank being reprimanded, when in fact only 18 Congressmen voted against the reprimand. Craig could've abstained and nothing would've changed...
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If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them!
Bat in the Hat
September 1, 2007 - 20:10 ET by ChaitealoverPerfect picture for a perfect idiot
Those who would expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigue of supporting it - Thomas Paine
Maybe one day he will come
September 1, 2007 - 20:16 ET by FairlightMaybe one day he will come to his census.
Fairlight
September 1, 2007 - 20:20 ET by Noel SheppardFL,
Exactly. Or, at the very least, wake up and smell the coughing. :-) ns
Wonder if Obama makes him
September 1, 2007 - 20:21 ET by drillanwrWonder if Obama makes him hot too?
Run, Alec, run!
September 1, 2007 - 20:27 ET by Mike BrattonPlease!
For anything!
It would be interesting to see you actually wade into the arena of ideas.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Mike
September 1, 2007 - 20:30 ET by Noel SheppardMike,
"It would be interesting to see you actually wade into the arena of ideas."
Why? You like watching people drown? :-) ns
Right wing performers.
September 1, 2007 - 21:07 ET byAre there any actors, singers, comedians etc that NB right wingers do like?
i
September 1, 2007 - 21:18 ET byof course, aye
but enough about me, lets get back to the subject matter, is this the Alec you wish to defend?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Yes, eyecare: Tom
September 1, 2007 - 21:10 ET by wiwfYes, eyecare: Tom Selleck
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
Tom Selleck
September 1, 2007 - 21:42 ET by"Selleck describes himself politically as ' a registered independant with a lot of libertarian leanings'." (Wikipedia)
But seriously.... what about real actors?
i-spy
September 1, 2007 - 22:00 ET byyou may find a Fred Thompson fan here
and your comment about 'real' actors? typical, just like Justice Thomas and Condi aren't black.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Well, granted, Magnum P.I.
September 1, 2007 - 22:03 ET by balboaWell, granted, Magnum P.I. was a tour de force of acting, what with the ferrari and all. Then there was the majesty of Quigley Down Under, and...
:-)
funny Bal
September 1, 2007 - 22:07 ET byRocky now thats the ticket!
Yo mick ya gotta cut me
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
How is Selleck not a real
September 1, 2007 - 22:44 ET by wiwfHow is Selleck not a real actor? Last time I checked, he was in more than one movie, and in a very popular tv series that lasted more than a season.
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
I know what you mean by real actors
September 2, 2007 - 12:32 ET by LilyPearlJohn Voight is a supporter of the troops.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 21:14 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
Tons. I love movies, music, and comedy. How 'bout you? ns
Me too, but most here seem
September 1, 2007 - 21:46 ET byMe too, but most here seem to ridicule pretty much all actors.
Admittedly, free speech isn't supported on this site, so actors who speak out are condemned, but which ones DO fit the picture?
AYE
September 1, 2007 - 21:49 ET bywe ridicule the ones who open their mouths and say stupid things. Did you check my link on this parent of the year?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 21:54 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
Free speech isn't supported on this site? Really? Could you please tell me, as an associate editor, how your speech has been restricted here?
As always, I await your response with great antici......pation. ns
Gladly!
September 1, 2007 - 22:05 ET byIf I come on here with a name like "Killemalltwice", and say lots of "Yeah, LOL!, and all Liberals are better off dead" and then follow up with a closing quote like "Patriot Missiles are too good for 'em", then I will fit in; be accepted, and considered logical and intelligent.
If I happen to mention countries outside the US, or if I question the extreme opinions presented, then I am a troll.
That's not freedom of speech.
eyesore...
September 1, 2007 - 22:09 ET by LionKingThe very fact that you do not even know what FOS is could be a reason you are considered a troll. Work with facts from reliable resources and maybe someone will take you serious.
Here we go. Banjo lessons
September 1, 2007 - 22:14 ET byHere we go. Banjo lessons are finished for the day.
Eyesore babbles
September 1, 2007 - 22:16 ET by LionKingNice comment, Eye. Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
No, really; did you mean
September 1, 2007 - 22:24 ET byNo, really; did you mean sources or resources? Did you mean "take you serious" or "take you seriously"?
Whenever you post, I can hear the "danga dang dang plunk plunk" in the background, but also the sound of ply panelling peeling off the walls of the trailer.
"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace"
and i nitpicks
September 1, 2007 - 22:28 ET bygrammer while his thoughts are void. But you do have the 'i'm better than you fools' condescention down pat. Bravo sir, to you the Oscar.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
eye...typical
September 1, 2007 - 22:31 ET by LionKingI stand corrected...please forgive me. I am tired. In typical troll fashion, however, you changed subjects.
Do you have a playbook or does it come naturally?
Troll statement alert!!
September 1, 2007 - 22:37 ET by Mica the MagnificentWhat was that Eyecare???
"You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace?"
Well, maybe just a piece at a time (no pun intended)
Japan was bombed into peace! Then, the world had peace.
History, my troll, history!
You can't Kumbaya the world into peace - - - Sorry, it's true.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 22:37 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
Concerning your quote, "You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb it into peace," didn't Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually end World War II and result in peace? As such is the case, isn't your quote quite mistaken? ns
If any of you really knew
September 1, 2007 - 22:56 ET byIf any of you really knew about free speech, you would know that it wasn't my quote, but one of a famous song; banned in the US but played worldwide, about 3 years ago.
Noel, I assume you must be pretty ancient if you have those attitudes. Once your lot moves on, we can move forward.
You clearly love war. Tell us what arms companies we should buy shares in.
oh
September 1, 2007 - 23:04 ET byit's from a famous song. Damn the evidence to the contrary it must be true it's from a famous song! Eye back to reality, just cause it's in a song (or a movie) doesn't say one whit as to it's validity. Are you really as foolish as you make out to be?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Well that post obviously
September 1, 2007 - 23:05 ET by BlondeWell that post obviously demonstrates why you're too, um, "befuddled" to know why you were banned the first time.
Noel...I'm sure you're working hard on cleaning up that monitor!
Sheesh! ROTFLMAO.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Troll alert 3 . . or is it 4?
September 1, 2007 - 23:07 ET by Mica the Magnificent"Once your lot moves on . . ."
Nice one, Eyecare. Hope your grandmother has a living will . . . .
But, I digress.
Nah! I'm older than Noel, and I will live until people like you are deported to the oppressor regime of your choice. Paid by my tax money, of course.
Arms companies you should buy? Don't trolls think Halliburton is a 'war' company?
Yee Haw! All of you. Just
September 1, 2007 - 23:14 ET byYee Haw! All of you.
Just wondering why you love war so much.
Freedom...
September 1, 2007 - 23:17 ET by LionKingFreedom isn't Free!!!
Enough said.
Troll alert 5 . .or 6??
September 1, 2007 - 23:21 ET by Mica the MagnificentO-k, ok. We like war because it enables us to kill the nice folks who swore to kill us first.
And if they swore to kill you, Eyecare, we'd come down there and help you kill them so they won't kill you, too.
Now go potty and go to bed.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 23:10 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
You're an extraordinarily deluded, self-righteous liar, and it's quite obvious why you were banned:
This is from a Michael Franti tune called "Bomb the World" still available in America: http://www.amazon.co...
Go play with some folks your own age who believe the bilge you spew. I'm done with you! ns
Noel...
September 1, 2007 - 23:15 ET by LionKingYou beat me too it.
LK
September 1, 2007 - 23:21 ET by Noel SheppardLK,
This guy's a moron, and I now know what his previous SN was. Everybody should just ignore him until he gets banned, hopefully sooner rather than later.
As I'm sure you're away, we have fabulous relations with Australia. However, even our closest allies have America haters. Heck, we even have them here, and, contrary to what this cretin believes, we allow them to speak their vitriol wherever they want. In fact, in many instances, our tax dollars support their very expressions. :-) ns
Noel...exactly
September 1, 2007 - 23:26 ET by LionKingGod Bless Our Soldiers. The fight for our Freedoms. They fight for the Freedoms of the Iraqis. The fight for the Freedoms for Australians. Terrorists know no boundaries or borders...the next attack could be in Australia...God forbid. We are taking the war to the terrorists to avoid more tragic terrorist attacks.
They only bombed us in
September 1, 2007 - 23:37 ET byThey only bombed us in Bali, and bombed London because of what GW Bush did.
We are only targets now because of the US. Don't make it sound like a favour!
Eye-diot
September 1, 2007 - 23:42 ET by LionKingYou show your ignorance. Like most liberals, you want to blame George Bush for all ill fortune. You view things in such a narrow-minded way. You cannot see the big picture. You truly are sad.
Pathetic
September 2, 2007 - 00:21 ET by UnsaneEyecare is a pathetic human being. Nothing, not even his own political freedoms, are worth fighting for in his eyes.
His preferred response to the Bali bombings: instead of hunting down and killing those responsible, have all 19 million or so Australians sit on the ground and cry like three year olds for days on end, and have the government grovel and cave into the perpetrators as much as possible.
I wonder if, wherever he lives in Australia, he campaigns for the disbanding of all law enforcement everywhere, because the ONLY reason people get robbed, ravished and pillaged is because governments even exist to begin with.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
They only bombed us in
September 2, 2007 - 07:52 ET by NewsbusterbrownThey only bombed us in Bali, and bombed London because of what GW Bush did.
Right. George W. Bush was also responsible for the first bombing of the WTC in 1993.
</sarcasm>
The whole reason I am here
September 1, 2007 - 23:33 ET byThe whole reason I am here is so that Right Wing Extremists don't start to think they are normal.
Australia is part of the Coalition, but opposition is similar to what it is in the US; about 70%. Luckily, we are free to openly dislike our PM.
Democracy kind of screws the pooch, doesn't it?
As soon as you guys get over your "America Haters" thing, you'll be better off. The whole problem in the first place was that you couldn't deal with the fact that someone actually attacked you.
IT WASN'T US OK? They hated your guts. We didn't.
Ummm, Eyecare!!
September 1, 2007 - 23:41 ET by Mica the MagnificentUmmm. Now don't get me angry!
I believe I told you to go potty and go to bed!!
You know how tired you are when you start posting things that are stupid and . .
may I say . . .
trollish?
Now brush your tooth, kiss the poster of Fidel goodnight, and have sweet dreams of all those times you tapped your foot in a public bathroom stall and a cop wasn't seated next to you.
Oh right
September 1, 2007 - 23:41 ET bywe are not normal because some nut-job disagrees with us and calls us names. Rather than worry about us, "You better free YOUR mind instead"
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
For Eyewhiner
September 5, 2007 - 04:39 ET by Unsane"Luckily, we are free to openly dislike our PM." You know, I kinda missed the time this past decade or so when the United States began putting people in the slam for political opposition. Perhaps you can tell me when this happened? For some strange reason, I can go into Barnes & Noble, no problem, and find much lit slamming the President, and even buy a calendar that counts down the days until 20 January 2009.
And as for not dealing with the fact that someone actually attacked us...you may want to ask the Japanese what happened to them when they attacked us. It sounds to me you are simply bitter because your country CANNOT act unilaterally.
Oh, and if this opposition to the war is about 70%, maybe you can explain why John Howard has been PM for the past eleven years, and this is in a country where the federal elections are held once every THREE years!
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
I've replied you on the
September 5, 2007 - 15:09 ET byI've replied you on the other post as well.
I can't see much in this one that actually makes sense. Yes, we are free to openly dislike our PM. That's what is great about Australia. What's wrong? Are you jealous?
He won't get shot or anything, like he will in other less stable places in the world, where guns are glorified, and done so for anti government reasons.
Yes, you were attacked. No one denies that. As a Brit, 69 Brits died too. As an Aussie, my mate lost his brother in one of the Towers.
Why do you think we would deny it?
But, who did you attack? You seem to need to think that Iraq attacked the US. Six years later, it's still not true.
As for your final point.... Opposition is the same in Australia i.e. 70%; as it is in your country. We hate Howard, and the US hates Bush. Difference is, Bush doesn't care. He's out at the end of his term. Howard can still get back in.
Australians vote mainly by economics, when all is well. Australian soldiers aren't dying in Iraq.
Oh, eyewhiner....
September 6, 2007 - 05:17 ET by UnsaneI can't see much in this one that actually makes sense. Yes, we are free to openly dislike our PM. That's what is great about Australia. What's wrong? Are you jealous? Eyewhiner, as the son of an eyeglass maker, you need some SERIOUS eyecare. You may want to read the part where I stated that I can walk into a Barnes & Noble in the United States and get much anti-Bush literature; you can even buy a (get this!) a calendar which counts the days until 20 January 2009!!! Do you know what that means? Read VERY SLOWLY. Apparently the Australian educational system sucks as much as ours does in the States.
Slamming and criticizing the President is allowed AND encouraged here. Maybe you should actually TRY visiting the United States sometime and see for yourself. You will most likely be deposited in Los Angeles or San Francisco, cities where any adulation of the President will be met with extreme hostility. Indeed, I just visited a major Midwestern metropolis recently that is very far Left (Chicago), yet they are all perfectly free to disagree with the President on many issues, contrary to the illusions you puff yourself up with.
So, are YOU jealous...of my literacy? You should be.
It seems you are quite scared of armed populations. You must hate Switzerland then. Did you know that unlike the United States, every able-bodied male is required by law to own one of two types of handgun? Did you also know that in Israel, a heavily-armed nation, street crime is a rare occurrence? Why is this? A heavily armed population! In TX, you will notice that the population is extremely polite by U.S. standards,especially when contrasted with the northeastern U.S. Perhaps one reason for this is the fact that Texans can apply for, and be issued, concealed handgun permits. It also tends to keep criminals at bay for some strange reason. Yet, our political leaders feel safe.
But, who did you attack? Afghanistan, Iraq, and just a few months ago, some terrorists in Somalia. You seem to need to think that Iraq attacked the US. Did Germany attack the United States in December 1941, or anytime proceeding December 1941? Six years later, it's still not true. Again, did Germany attack the United States in December 1941 or anytime before that?
As for your final point.... Opposition is the same in Australia i.e. 70%; as it is in your country. We hate Howard, and the US hates Bush. Difference is, Bush doesn't care. He's out at the end of his term. Howard can still get back in. If Howard can still get back in, then your 70% opposition number is dubious at best. Again, your talent at missing the point is amazing. Howard first attained the Prime Ministership in March 1996. Your PM faces more frequent elections than the U.S. President does; hence, your country has had multiple opportunities to evict Howard from office...yet, it has not done so. We should be talking about PM Beazley or PM Latham, yet, this simply is not the case. Why is that? Maybe you can talk to me about 70% opposition after Rudd wins the election (if that happens), scheduled for November IIRC. Until then,maybe you should just hold the election, just in case.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
It's 70% opposition to the
September 7, 2007 - 18:56 ET byIt's 70% opposition to the war. I probably didn't explain it properly.
Also, I would love to visit the US. I have no issue at all with that.
I mentioned the bit about being openly allowed to oppose our PM because so many posters on this site have said that I should respect the POTUS. Fair enough, I shouldn't claim that that included you.
So many people here try to use the Germany WW2 situation to support Iraq, and you personally, surprise me because it is so flawed. No, Hitler hadn't invaded the US, but the US admirably went and defended countries that Hitler was invading. It was nothing like now!
This thing about me being anti Anti US is a myth. I'm like GW is finding at the moment at APEC about Australia; very pro US; very anti Bush. Mind you, he didn't help his cause by calling it OPEC, and thanking the Austrian troops! You know I'll never be a fan of how he mangles the language!
Got to hand it to the Big Guy, though, he doesn't do anything by halves. 700 people in his crew. That's impressive!
He also has a certain charm. When he's not trying to make a speech, or sell the war, he's a hell of a lot more eloquent. His thanks to the Sydney population were genuine, as his his friendship with John Howard.
I just don't agree with the guys. That's allowed.
Did I miss any points?
PS, I read it very slowly, and I wrote back even slower. Jan 20, 2009 is the 100th anniversary of the disastrous Water Crib Fire in Chicago 1909. 60 men died.
Try and try again
September 15, 2007 - 05:12 ET by UnsaneSo many people here try to use the Germany WW2 situation to support Iraq, and you personally, surprise me because it is so flawed. No, Hitler hadn't invaded the US, but the US admirably went and defended countries that Hitler was invading. It was nothing like now! Just as the United States admirably went and defended countries that Iraq invaded (like Kuwait) and eventually removed a dictator that was slaughtering his own people. Hitler used Zyklon-B, Saddam Hussein used nerve gas. Sorry, the analogy WORKS! Try again!
This thing about me being anti Anti US is a myth. You could have fooled me, by your very own posts. I'm like GW is finding at the moment at APEC about Australia; very pro US; very anti Bush. Mind you, he didn't help his cause by calling it OPEC, and thanking the Austrian troops! You know I'll never be a fan of how he mangles the language! You know, I will never be a fan of elitist snobbery either. It amazes me how many people will happily vote for crappy leadership as long as he/she SOUNDS good (not that, surprise, I am the biggest Bush fan, which I am not).
I read it very slowly, and I wrote back even slower. Jan 20, 2009 is the 100th anniversary of the disastrous Water Crib Fire in Chicago 1909. 60 men died. Now, smarta$$, consult the 20th Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
Bet that's the first time
September 1, 2007 - 23:18 ET byBet that's the first time you've ever heard of it, though. You didn't earlier. Be honest.
Michael recently toured Iraq, and played to the troops. He has never been popular with the US government.
Own up.
Michael recently toured
September 2, 2007 - 07:54 ET by NewsbusterbrownMichael recently toured Iraq, and played to the troops. He has never been popular with the US government.
Own up.
What does this have to do with your original lie that he was banned?
Another lie from the eye-troll
September 1, 2007 - 23:14 ET by LionKingThe song is by Michael Franti and is available on Amazon. So much for it being banned.
Amazon
September 1, 2007 - 23:22 ET byLyingthing, websites don't count, ok?
When you commit your next crime, your lawyer will organise a suppression order so that your name is protected in your state, but people will be able to find it on the internet.
Troll alert 7 . .8 or 9?
September 1, 2007 - 23:26 ET by Mica the MagnificentWhy don't you tell Uncle Mica about your crime and some 'suppression' order those bad people did to you?
C'mon, Eyecare. I want to help.
eyesore...define banned
September 1, 2007 - 23:31 ET by LionKingYou claimed that this popular song was banned...how so? Do you care to define banned?
eye...facts got you again
September 1, 2007 - 23:55 ET by LionKingWhat's the matter, Troll? Did getting caught in a lie hurt your feelings?
PM me
September 2, 2007 - 00:06 ET byPM me
Why not?
September 2, 2007 - 00:42 ET by UnsaneWhy do websites not count? They are easily censored; just ask the Chinese. Or the North Koreans, who are more than likely not even aware of the existence of the Internet (save Kim Jong-Il).
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Lyingthing, websites don't
September 2, 2007 - 08:05 ET by NewsbusterbrownLyingthing, websites don't count, ok?
Fine. You can buy Franti's crap at a Best Buy store. But I assume that also doesn't count now since it torpedos your claim.
Eyecare, you are an idiot of the first order.
September 1, 2007 - 23:51 ET by Dave RYou clearly love war. Tell us what arms companies we should buy shares in.
Noel "loves" war"?
No sane person "loves" war, you mindless twit, but some of us realize that it is necessary at times, unlike you "peace at any price" types who would willingly live in slavery rather than fight for your own freedom, if not your very own lives.
You clearly support "peace at any price" and to hell with the consequences.
So did many French in the early forties.
You are an idiot.
Ruff!...Ruff!Ruff!Ruff!
-my schnoodle Oliver.
No sane person loves war
September 2, 2007 - 00:04 ET byI think you are right. So, why is the Coalition there now? Because GW loves war. He wants to be like his "daydy" and wants to be a war president, so idiots happily send American kids to get killed for no reason, just because they believe an idiot they elected.
What really sh*ts me right now is that soldiers will continue to die through pure political arogance, for this idiot, even though public opinion clearly shows that the "war" is as popular as a turd in a pool, and will probably be over in a few months, so why kill the kids now?
What is "arogance"?
September 2, 2007 - 00:51 ET by BarkerIs it what a condescending troll displays while making his own grammatical errors, or something?
Dave you are too kind
September 2, 2007 - 00:04 ET byI'd say he's not above a third-order idiot
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Dave R... He should be on
September 2, 2007 - 00:09 ET by bigtimerDave R...
He should be on his knees thanking all of our and his Forefathers for the freedom he has to be able to express himself now....
Blood was adn is being sacrificed for ungrateful people like eye... and a mulitude of others.
Despicable...
but hey...that's just me.
bt,
September 2, 2007 - 00:25 ET by Dave RLOL-I agree.
See above.
Ruff!...Ruff!Ruff!Ruff!
-my schnoodle Oliver.
Painful reality check for eyecare
September 2, 2007 - 00:15 ET by UnsaneI don't love war. I can't, because unlike whiners and complainers like you, I fight them (as do other posters on this board).
But the reality is that violence DOES work and solve lots and lots of problems. If sitting around whining and crying about evil in the world solved anything, please explain why the "SAVE DARFUR" bumper-stickers have NOT saved Darfur. If talking to your enemies is 100% effective, please explain why we celebrate Churchill, not Chamberlain. If violence doesn't work:
1) Please explain why Korea is not united under the Kim dynasty.
2) Please explain why Hitler left his conquered territories in Europe.
3) Please explain why King George III left the American colonies to their own devices in 1781.
4) Please explain why there is no such country today as Byzantium, with a capital at Constantinople.
5) Please explain what happened to Carthage (h/t to Heinlein).
By you last whiny remark, am I to guess that you lust to steal from Boeing, among others?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Your best question was the
September 2, 2007 - 00:22 ET byYour best question was the first one. Why aren't we in Darfur?
There is a clear reason why we should be, but no........ Iraq has OIL!
I squirm on this site every time some ignorant fart says "Look at how bad it was under Saddam" and I wonder if they even know where Iraq is, because that ignorant fart in 2007 seems to think that the people who did 9/11 came from Iraq.
I think most of you do too!
mores lies from eyes
September 2, 2007 - 00:26 ET byand you don't know what a facade is?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
For Eyewhiner
September 2, 2007 - 00:40 ET by UnsaneActually, Sudan does in fact have much oil and is exported in great quantity to China.
Also, never has the Bush administration ever made a direct connection between Iraq and 9/11/01.
I realize you LOVE the idea of having your life completely micromanaged and totally controlled by the State (never mind the complete demise of such things as The Second World), but you have to admit that having a dictator that uses nerve gas on his own people is not a good thing. Don't whine to me either about how the sanctions were "hurting the people" or whatever...because if Saddam decided to use the funds he was permitted to feed his own people, instead of enriching himself and stuffing his army to the gills, maybe his people wouldn't have suffered any.
I also realize you believe yourself to be the smartest person on NB, but you clearly have not a clue of what you are talking about. Instead of talking down to others and doing everything in your power to be as insulting as possible, I would suggest you study some more of world geography, history, human nature and politics, because you are clearly completely ignorant of them all from everything you have posted.
By the way, before you blame George Bush for everything imaginable, I suggest you start at home with another leader I have a great deal of respect for, PM John Howard (bet you have him and are aching to vote Labour/Kevin Rudd).
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Eyecare,
September 2, 2007 - 00:51 ET by Dave RIf I were you, I'd be in church tomorrow am, face down on my knees, thanking God Almighty that the US of A even exists as a nation.
Otherwise, at this very moment, you would be most likely speaking Japanese, driving around in a Toyota, and singing the praises of Tojo, while eating rice on a stick.
Ruff!...Ruff!Ruff!Ruff!
-my schnoodle Oliver.
You mean to tell us that
September 2, 2007 - 05:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberYou mean to tell us that Michael Franti was banned in the US? Methinks someone better cite some sources, because Spearhead has been touring the US all summer, unless I am mistaken. Unlike Noel, I do not await a response with anticipaaaation, because I know Eyecare here has no response. Prove me wrong, you dill.
Franti
September 3, 2007 - 09:58 ET byUS radio stations won't play him. That's a ban. What's the point in being able to buy an album if you can't hear it first?
how's that eye?
September 3, 2007 - 10:11 ET bywe must be FORCED to listen to what YOU want or it's a ban.
you are the gestapo and a disingenous liar
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
US Radio stations also
September 3, 2007 - 10:52 ET by wiwfUS Radio stations also don't play In the Garden of Eden by Iron Butterfly. Even when one requests it 99 times out of 100 it won't be played. Figure out why.
I'm sure Air America would have it as their theme song. Oh wait, no one wanted to listen to them, so they bombed!
And just because your little song doesn't make it onto the airwaves doesn't mean it's the only song that liberals should be crying for "justice and equality" (which ends up being that the song is played 25 hours a day on all FM stations and over Rush/Sean/Gibson). Plenty of songs don't make the cut. There's an Offspring song I have in mind, but I can't remember the title (from the first album), that's talking about killing the president. That one NEVER gets played on the radio. Your pseudo national anthem of a song is not the only white man in the Apollo.
There's a reason why radio stations play hits or programs that are popular. If they took the socialist approach and tried to play everything equally, they would go out of business and fail, much like the whole idea of socialism to begin with.
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
Wow. You truly have a
September 3, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Roger the ShrubberWow. You truly have a Hulk-like grasp of the record industry, dontcha, Sparky?
Stick to things you know about. I realize that would mean you will not have anything to talk about, but at least you will not reveal yourself to be a dumbass when you keep your mouth shut.
Bans
September 5, 2007 - 04:33 ET by UnsaneNo, Eyewhiner, it is NOT a ban if U.S. radio stations will not play him. That just means that U.S. radio stations will not play him. By your logic, Dream Theater is a victim of censorship.
You may call them a ban ONLY if you can prove the government is ordering those radio stations not to play his music, which is expressly forbidden under the U.S. Constitution, if you have bothered to read it.
Back in 1987 or so, the band Simply Red released a song called "Money's Too Tight To Mention". When U.S. audiences determined that it was a slap at Reagan (and it was), those audiences called the radio stations to request it not be played. Now, that wasn't a ban, either, for the listening audience was taking their grievance to the radio stations and threatening them with a shutoff of radios. There IS a difference between that and government intervention.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Noel, regarding EC ;Terms like Unconditional Surrender are not
September 2, 2007 - 14:08 ET by upcountrywateron his list of options ,with his stewpid quote..
UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER as a strategy has not been used sinse WW II.
Where we really used ALL means possible, to end that war.
Man oh man unconditional surrender really worked good, then.
And what about now ,we just kickin back waiting for 911 -2.
Entitlement over infrastructure every SINGLE time.
Eye-spy
September 1, 2007 - 22:19 ET bywe ain't yet begun
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Good one, Brucie. I think
September 1, 2007 - 22:31 ET by BlondeGood one, Brucie.
I think I need to rent that for the Plasma. Haven't seen it in years. I love John Voight & Burt Reynolds in that movie.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Enviro movie. Tree huggin'
September 7, 2007 - 19:01 ET byEnviro movie. Tree huggin' canoeists is all they were.
idontcare---
September 1, 2007 - 23:44 ET by misterbillIt seems to me on my drive bys to NB that you are one of those who seek out conflict and argument. What a shame--BTW--I would believe that you play the swinette and not the banjo!!!!
and yet he speaks
September 1, 2007 - 22:10 ET bybut if others call him a troll they should be gagged?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 22:16 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
That's not true. You get to say it, and not get edited or banned. The fact that people call you a troll is not a restriction of your freedom of speech. It's others exercising theirs.
Honestly, what don't you get about the first amendment? I suggest you go here to educate yourself. ns
Good link Noel
September 1, 2007 - 22:24 ET bysaved to favorites in my resources folder right next to this one
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
I have been banned
September 1, 2007 - 22:38 ET byThat's the stupid part. I have been banned, but not under this username.
Before you ban me again; (and so that other users know how it works) I did email NB asking for an explanation, and no reply came.
Give me some leeway. I grew up in a truly free country without much censorship, and where no politician would dare say "God bless-..." in public. I come from a modern society, where we are allowed to say what we don't like, and we aren't put under that fear agenda that US power relies on.
Yes, I can understand why that's probably weird to many on this site, but it might explain my approach.
Oh... and for $%#@sake, get a sense of humour will you?
Duh!
September 1, 2007 - 22:43 ET by Mica the MagnificentThe ban must have been self-explanatory.
I know, 'self-explanatory' doesn't translate into 'troll.'
aye-yai-yai
September 1, 2007 - 22:46 ET byeye-dude you truly have no idea why you were banned? and you don't know what a facade is? No kidding, in my book that makes you a flat out liar. Thing is you know it too.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
EC
September 1, 2007 - 22:52 ET by Noel SheppardEC,
You live in a truly free country? And you suggest that mine isn't?
Frankly, that's enough inanity for me to ignore you in the future. Furthermore, as it is quite tough to get banned here -- much tougher than at liberal websites to be sure -- if you got banned in the past, I quite imagine you deserved it.
As for my sense of humor, frankly, bud, you've never met anybody with a more developed one in your life. Probably not even close.
That said, adios muchacho. ns
Yes, I'm definitely
September 1, 2007 - 22:59 ET byYes, I'm definitely suggesting your's isn't. This site wouldn't even exist if the US was truly free. That's the problem.
How does the United States
September 2, 2007 - 00:25 ET by UnsaneHow does the United States become "truly" free? By turning itself into a coddling, pampering Nanny State?
That is actually the high-speed ticket to slavery. But then, liberty oppresses you.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
What??
September 2, 2007 - 07:38 ET by ThreePuttinDudeYes, I'm definitely suggesting your's isn't. This site wouldn't even exist if the US was truly free. That's the problem.
I think the problem, with this idea of your's, is that you are of the impression that everyone needs to agree with your opinion/ideas, or they are wrong. What do you know of a repressed society? Have you lived in such, or have you just learned the words to spew on threads such as this? You sound foolish, but to be banned would not allow us to have such a good chuckle at your expense....Please post more often, we need the laughs
"Give me some leeway. I
September 1, 2007 - 22:58 ET by ckc1227"Give me some leeway. I grew up in a truly free country without much
censorship, and where no politician would dare say "God bless-..." in
public."
Yes, I'm sure a country where the politicians live in fear of using the words "God Bless" in public is the poster child of freedom that other countries strive for, and that the U.S. can only pretend to be, lol.
Every ridiculous post you make here undermines your entire thesis.
They don't live in fear.
September 1, 2007 - 23:04 ET byThey don't live in fear. That's the whole point. It's not even an issue.
When we see GB or Bill Clinton say "God Bless America!" we laugh because it's weird. We have separation of church and state. That's what countries strive for. If our PM said "God bless Australia", he/she wouldn't last.
It's great! You should try growing up without fear, guilt, guns etc!
Hey eye... Check into AMC
September 1, 2007 - 23:10 ET by bigtimerHey eye...
Check into AMC at the moment....
You would fit right in there....
ROFLMAO!
yeah but
September 1, 2007 - 23:11 ET byhow do you sleep while your beds are burning?
how can you dance while the earth is turning?
and when are you giving all your possessions back to the aborigines?
(it's from a famous song)
Another song
September 1, 2007 - 23:15 ET by Mica the Magnificent"Some people from Australia suck and are trolls!"
(It's from a song I just wrote.)
...and Mica...it ought to be
September 1, 2007 - 23:54 ET by bigtimer...and Mica...it ought to be a best-seller...Go gold!
Out where the river broke;
September 1, 2007 - 23:51 ET byOut where the river broke; the bloodwood, and the desert oak; Holden wrecks and boiling diesels steam in 45 degrees.
Eye
September 2, 2007 - 00:01 ET bywell you know the song, so sign over all your possessions and staye in England i heare that theye have a most wonderful healthe care and welfare sytem. Jack B will gladly take care of you. Remember Jack, he's the one you thought wasn't currently living in Great Briton.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
On the contrary, he was/is
September 3, 2007 - 15:25 ET byOn the contrary, he was/is the one I was saying should make it more clear that he lives in Great Britain.
"If there was a god, then the bad stuff would happen to the rich."
Hey eyesore...
September 3, 2007 - 11:27 ET by NforceWhy do you communist wannabe liberals feel you have to infiltrate conservative sites with your sewage? Why do you quasi-socialist facsist liberals support diversity right up to ideological diversity where your tolerance stops? Why do you capitalism hating Marxist liberals feel that those who work and are successful (who vote Republican) should be punished with taxes whereas the lazy and incompetent (who vote Democrat) should be rewarded with other people's money? You wanna talk about war? Why do you ass hats on the left love cultural and class warfare so much? People like you are such tools.
He He He!
September 3, 2007 - 15:22 ET byBecause it shows you for what you are.
Someone else on this same thread has accused me of being gestapo, and you say communist. It's like "moonbat" and "nanny state"; just standard words you use when you can't think. Seems like they get used a lot.
I love exposing the Extremists on here, because they have nothing to do with the great nation they support. The United States of America would be ashamed of the people and the attitudes a mere 20 or so creatures express on this site.
True Americans, don't worry. I would never confuse you with this lot.
That's it
September 3, 2007 - 15:25 ET by BlondeYour trolling is over the top.
Anybody care to begin placing bets as to how long it's going to take for this newest iteration of the troll to be banned?
I'm guessing end of day.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Abject stupidity?
September 3, 2007 - 15:30 ET by RJBlonde, as you know, this Troll has already been banned once....probably for abject stupidity....what a wast of bandwidth this fool is...
Precisely, RJ
September 3, 2007 - 15:38 ET by BlondeI'm just getting sick and tired of the Eurotrash here.
Would someone kindly take out the garbage?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
More for the whiner
September 5, 2007 - 04:45 ET by Unsane"...just standard words you use when you can't think..."
You mean like "pro war", "war profiteer", "extremist", and your Socialist wish for bad things to happen to those whose only crime is to dare make a dime more than you?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
botg
September 3, 2007 - 11:45 ET by shawn228You never told me you were out burning the midnight oil
Noel,
September 1, 2007 - 23:21 ET by Dave RAs always, I await your response with great antici......pation. ns
If you keep that up, your headed for a myocardial infarction of the worst kind.
Ruff!...Ruff!Ruff!Ruff! -my schnoodle Oliver.
Noel
September 1, 2007 - 21:48 ET bydid you see the concert with Blonde and myself?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Bruce, Love that site!
September 1, 2007 - 21:54 ET by BlondeBruce,
Love that site! There are alot of good concerts there...and only one fifteen second commercial every six songs or so.
Sweet!
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
B
September 1, 2007 - 21:54 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Which one? ns
Noel
September 1, 2007 - 21:57 ET bythe EC (Clapton) concert, i mistook your eyecare moniker for it.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
B
September 1, 2007 - 21:59 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Gotcha. No, I didn't see it, although I've seen some of those online concerts at Blonde's suggestion before. What was that web address? ns
Easy one Noel
September 1, 2007 - 22:02 ET byMSN.com but some of the best stuff (a set of Blind Faith with Stevie Winwood) is now whittled to only one song.
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
B
September 1, 2007 - 22:05 ET by Noel SheppardB,
I saw some of the Blind Faith stuff. Awesome. Tears to the eyes. ns
Noel, It was the
September 1, 2007 - 22:02 ET by BlondeNoel,
It was the Crossroads Guitar fest, broadcast live over the internet about four weeks ago, I think on MSN. I can send you the site when I get on the other computer. They have an excerpt...it was about a 12 hour concert. Awesome.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
B
September 1, 2007 - 22:06 ET by Noel SheppardJ,
Yeah, now I remember. Life goes pretty fast on the Internet. :-) ns
Life on the Internet
September 1, 2007 - 22:11 ET by BlondeYes it does, Noel....I take it Humpty (I call mine the paperweight) is all put back together again?
This was a funny blog, Noel...with the silly Alec stepping in it once again. Nice pic, too.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Are there any actors,
September 2, 2007 - 07:28 ET by Tom1969caHow about...
(Source: CelebPolitics.com)
~~~
If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them!
stephen baldwin
September 2, 2007 - 12:30 ET by LilyPearlThe Stephen Baldwin on that list is Alec's brother and he supports Sam Brownback. See www.stephenbaldwin.com
eyecare..in short no..
September 2, 2007 - 22:57 ET by ConservativeRexeyecare..in short no..
alec doesn't have to be correct
September 1, 2007 - 21:12 ET by lunaticcringeradioall that matters is that alec is a good actor and tells people what they want to hear. that's why liberals love actors and sports players, they love that phoney facad they wear.
lunaticcringeradio
What's a facad? Is that
September 1, 2007 - 22:08 ET byWhat's a facad? Is that like some crazy terrorist headgear? Or like a jihad, or something?
for eye...
September 1, 2007 - 22:11 ET by LionKingfacade
A Risch Replacement
September 1, 2007 - 22:26 ET by Lame CherryIt would be intelligent for Mr. Baldwin to actually keep his mouth closed as his piling on the homo bandwagon bash has just netted Republicans a Democratic nightmare.
His name is Jim Risch and he makes Larry Craig appear moderate. This guy is a rancher which means he loves guns and shooting things spelled varmit, he is a tough as nails trial lawyer who taught law and a good old Roman Catholic. That is Baldwin's nightmare come true........oh and the man from Ada County Idaho is also a former governor and serving now as Lt. Gov of Idaho with Congressional experience.
This is a gentleman who can not only play with the bloated Teddy and the senile Byrd, but slap it around with Chuck Schumer all with a clean slate.
I look forward to Senator Risch hopefully showing up with a bull whip and not for kinky purposes but like Jesus driving before him the ilk out of the American secular temple of Congress the likes of effeminite Lott, Luger, Specter and those other pansy flowers pretending to be Republicans.
Let us hope a few more cops are in crappers and snag 30 more GOP'ers in Republican states where they can be replaced by men who shoot straight. No pun intended.
Democrats better not count this as a victory as in the long run the GOP won in this deal.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
"Are there any actors,
September 1, 2007 - 22:39 ET by ckc1227"Are there any actors, singers, comedians etc that NB right wingers do like?"
I like the ones who understand that the make-believe ends when the camera stops rolling.
What ckc
September 1, 2007 - 22:47 ET by wiwfWhat ckc said^^
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
ckc -
September 1, 2007 - 23:36 ET by drillanwrVery nicely sad ... and so compact too.
I don't think that's sad;
September 7, 2007 - 19:05 ET byI don't think that's sad; nicely or otherwise.
Facts Never Bother Dunces
September 2, 2007 - 03:26 ET by daveinbocaThis Alec Baldwin is a poster-boy for aggressive hyperactive braindeath, as only a hyperventilating drugged-up liberal can be.
A wife-beater who intimidates his daughter and is stupid enough to get it recorded---this guy is aiming at retiring the cup for overall non-Mensch of the century.
Jenny Craig Meets Dr. Phil
September 2, 2007 - 05:51 ET by HeikiDo with the subject line what you will. ''Smart Alec'' Baldwin is an overpaid, overweight, underwhelming blowhard. I've been visiting NB for about six months now, and the only people I've noticed get banned are chuckleheads who repeatedly go with the personal attacks and/or vulgarity in their postings. Simply being vacuous or insipid in one's remarks isn't enough, in my experience, to rate expulsion from NB. Freedom of speech indeed. Thank you, NewsBusters for providing this mostly civil, intellectually stimulating forum.
Alec Baldwin IS, the idiot in the hat
September 2, 2007 - 08:38 ET by c5thenIf this guy didn't have scripts that tell him what to say and what to do all the time, he would probably stand in the corner somwhere and drool, eventually dying of malnutrition or dehydration.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic
Alec is an actor
September 2, 2007 - 11:30 ET by ThalpyAnd what else should we be expecting from Alec Baldwin? The really disappointing thing about him and the rest of the Hollywood brain trust is that it is difficult to separate their acting performances from their vacuous political pronouncements. Some of them are excellent actors, while their political analysis falls at the other end of their talent continuum.
It will be interesting...
September 2, 2007 - 12:28 ET by LilyPearlIt will certainly be interesting in 2008 with his conservative, born-again Christian brother Stephen supporting Sam Brownback. What is even more interesting is that Chynna Phillips, the wife of William Baldwin (who wore the 1.20.09 shirt on Jimmy Kimmel), is also a born-again Christian. Hmmm...we need to seriously pray for this family that those who don't know Jesus will come into a relationship with Him.
Baldwin
September 2, 2007 - 12:26 ET by pocomocoBaldwin, using his persona as The Shadow, is attempting to ‘cloud men’s minds’ into convincing them he has political acumen, when in reality he is nothing more than another delusional, Hollywood, narcissistic, dolt who believes his movie making qualifies him to dictate what others should think and do.
Rude thoughtless litle pig
September 2, 2007 - 12:40 ET byis how he describes his own daughter?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
"Alec Baldwin Foolishly
September 2, 2007 - 18:05 ET by Conservative_in_mass."Alec Baldwin Foolishly Claims"
<add anything that comes out his mouth here>
Ok 418 to 8 .. and that includes a whole lotta dims...
September 3, 2007 - 22:36 ET by SportPoliticsobviously that four-one-eight voting record namelist should be brought up- and any gay dems on it or out of the closet since then need to immediately step down for massive hypocrisy.
We should have the press that interviews 300 persons and take 2 trips to DC for each dem who voted on that 418 side, so we can purge these hypocrits, according to the dem and msm mantra rules of USA politics and America.