What Media Won’t Tell You About Poverty

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Remember all that talk about poverty two years ago after Katrina hit?

Well, as NewsBusters reported here and here, the press two years later seem quite nonplussed by the Census Bureau's recent report about back-to-back declines in the number of poor people in America.

Yet, the real dirty little secret that media want to keep from Americans is just what is considered "poor" in our nation.

As the Heritage Foundation's Robert Rector wrote on Monday, our country's poor are actually doing quite well (emphasis added throughout, h/t Villainous Company):

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The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from a variety of government reports:
  • 46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.\
  • 80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
  • Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.
  • The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
  • Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.
  • 97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
  • 78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.
  • 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
  • 89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.

Doesn't too bad, does it? In fact, taken as a whole:

[T]he typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR, or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family is not hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, liberal activists, and politicians.

Actually, Robert, "far from" is an understatement. In fact, what media depict as poor in this nation appears to be from a galaxy far, far away.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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How dare you say that

How dare you say that American poor people are not really poor compared to real poor people throughout the world!

</facetiousness>

 

gosh golly

Ooooh, ooooh, you forgot the cell phone many of the 'poor' have. The regular phone too.

D

Here is a petition you may want to sign.

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

You would think with

You would think with 55,000,000 unemployed the poor would be worse off.

Thanks Noel!

It's always good to put things in perspective when the liberals cry "emergency". As ever, they are always looking for a way to re-distribute the wealth and more importantly to them, control how that is accomplished.

It seems that the MSM, and liberals in general, want to be the US equivilent of the Soviet Politbureau.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

See - more proof of global warming!

"80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning"

See - more proof of global warming!

 (;~>

Give it back!!

Media spin: But all of these items the poor have will be taken away by the evil sub-prime lenders!

80 percent of poor

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

And don't forget, in 1870 only zero percent of the entire U.S. population had air conditioning.  I sense a trend.

Yes, the trend being that

Yes, the trend being that technology and innovation spured by free markets are what raise the standard of living. 

common ground

I'm glad you agree that poverty in 2007 is to be measured against the standard of living in 2007, not 1970 or 1870.

Looks like someone doesn't

Looks like someone doesn't care for the dose of reality that has been served up here. 

Looks like someone doesn't

Looks like someone doesn't recognize reality when it's provided. 

Looking into the mirror

Looking into the mirror again, Sparky?

I realize Chuggers like you leave a load in your Underoos when news like this is revealed, and it obviously is detrimental to your agenda, but, hey, keep on living your dream!

Dismantling Marxism can be oh-so-fun...

 

In other words, you've got

In other words, you've got nothing. 

Actually, I have the simple

Actually, I have the simple pleasure and joy of watching dumbass "progressives" like you flip out when your magical wonder world is exposed as the fraud it is.

The story says it all. Your pouting and crying is the icing on the cake. And me pointing it out to everybody is priceless. But, by all means, keep dragging this out, and embarassing yourself even further. I can spank your sad socialist ass all day long, Chachi.

 

 

You're far more worked up

You're far more worked up about this than I am.  If you want to celebrate your "victory" over a straw man argument you pulled out your rear, be my guest.  I made my point and it stands unchallenged.

Unchallenged???? 

Unchallenged????  Unchallenged?!!!!

 Didn't you read the article?  What do you want?  For the "poor" to have 3 cars of the Lexus or higher variety, 4 FLATSCREEN tvs? 2 XBOX 360's... ad nauseum?

Didn't you read that the average "poor" American has more square footage of living space than the average "normal" person in major European socialist cities? 

Like I have said before, the whining socialists don't want to end poverty, they want to end individual wealth.  They won't be happy until all are dragged down to the lowest common denominator ala Cuba or North Korea.

You indeed made some sort

You indeed made some sort of point. Unfortunately, it was a stupid point, and worthy of the ridicule you received. But hey, when you are a Marxist, you got to cling to whatever crap you got.

Also, there was no "straw man" argument presented on my part, only my pointing out what a dumbass you are to the rest of the class, and you ran home crying. Dasvidania, comrade!

 

 

Fine: So you must measure

Fine:

So you must measure apples versus apples.

How are these apples:

Food - Today our poor are essentially fat whereas in previous times they were not due to food shortages.

Entertainment - in the past few had radios, or newspaper subscriptions/books.  Today they have all of that, most have TV"s.

Clothing - In the past most poor people had one change of clothing.  Today poor children have several pairs of Mike Jordan shoes.

SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

I really wonder where

I really wonder where priorities are when I see crappy homes with satellite dishes, new cars in the driveway, and more. I bet these people could live better if they lived more humbly, not in constant credit debt. Buy a better house in a better neighborhood, live without cable and air conditioning, have a used car.

$$$$

What's there to wonder? It's not like it's their money. 

Rally online Paul/Kucinich '09

Bal

Bal,

Frankly, I don't think the poor are any worse consumers than the rest of Americans. Where I live, folks have no problems having several thousand dollars a month in car lease expenses, and the full array of absurd leisure items.

Or how 'bout the folks around the country who bought houses they really couldn't afford with loans whose payments were guaranteed to go even higher thereby making the homes even less affordable? What type of intellectual quotient must that require?

And, how about a federal government that regardless of how much tax receipts grow annually STILL can't figure out a way to balance expenditures to income?

In the end, Americans are basically behaving as fiscally irresponsible as their political leaders. Why should this surprise us? ns

I always used to ask my

I always used to ask my parents why we didn't have a fancy car, or a pool, etc., when I was little, when friends in school did whose parents were not well off.

"They're in debt up to their ears."

That didn't really help me any, but I remember the explanation.

Bal

Bal,

I like your parents!  :-)

In my case, my kids don't have to ask, because I tell them. Other than a house, if you don't have the money for it, don't buy it. And, don't use equity in your house to buy things you don't have the money for, either.

The wealthiest people I know are wealthy because they're cheap!  :-)  ns

Noel, One of my favorite

Noel,

One of my favorite sayings (and I think I actually coined it....but then again, maybe not) is:

Take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves.

This has served me well throughout my professional career in accounting/finance related jobs.

And it would truly be a saying to live by for each of us in our personal lives. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Balboa: Concur with that

Balboa:

Concur with that assessment.

Over twenty years ago I was assigned to a military base in the south for the first time.  In one of my frequent trips around the area I came across a series of small towns in south Georgia near Jimmy Carters hometown of Plains that left me befuddled.

Most of the rural houses were ancient structures that had tar paper as both siding and roofing.  Each had both the stove and refrigerator on the front porch, and had very stylish automobiles parked out front.  I could not reconcile the very fancy car with the obvously poor state of the house until I was actually in the military for a while and had conversations from the folks in the area.

Most of them told me that the culture of that area is based on the local roadhouses.  You had to look good pulling up to the road house in your brand new car because that was how you were judged.  None of your contemporaries would ever visit you at your home, that is what the roadhouse was for.

Later that winter there was a very cold spell that lasted up to a week and included an inch of snow.  They began finding the local residents dead on the blacktop road and were concerned that it might be some form of hate crime.  They later discovered that the people were cold since the tar paper houses had no heat and had begun laying on the blacktop roads to warm up post sundown.  Then would fall asleep in the warmth and be run over by an 18 wheeler.

Poverty has nothing to do with it.  Priority does.

BD

I currently having the opposite problem. I'm going broke trying to keep the bathtub filled with ice. I need to jump in every few hours.

Damn GW!

This was really sad "Then

This was really sad "Then would fall asleep in the warmth and be run over by an 18 wheeler" but I laughed at it, taht is the absurdity of falling asleep on the blacktop.  The sheer stupidity of doing such a thing, of course your picture of people and their priorities may have something to do with it.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Acutally modern Air

Acutally modern Air Conditioning has been around since the turn of the 20th century. Although costly in 1970 it was definietly available as opposed to your silly 1870 reference.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM

MM,

My family had air conditioners in the house since the early '60s, and got central air in the early '70s. As such, his point has no relevance, and doesn't even warrant response.  

That said, I don't think the explosion in air conditioning is due to reduced costs. Instead, I think it's due to an economic explosion that began in the early '80s and has continued almost unabated since so much so that even America's poor live significantly better today than they did in the '70s.

Of course, liberals can't possibly admit that or else their dream of socialism in this country will fall by the wayside.    :-)    ns

 

Noel

Noel,

I just had to tell you this: In 1968, my Dad got a job in Houston Texas. Now, in 1968, if you made more than $3 an hour you FOUND a way to get air conditioning, because that city was HOT and HUMID! I remember as a kid, my relatives would come down from the north to visit and marvel at the wonderful air conditioning in our house. We had a big house and so we had two units, so the entire house was always cool, no matter how muggy it was in the bayou city. We had the Astrodome and the Johnson Space Center and lots more places to visit, but for some reason my relatives never wanted to go anywhere!  <grin>

God Bless Willis Carrier...

Florida should declare his birthday a holiday, since he made the state habitable. Unfortunately for fans of smaller government, by doing so he also made Washington, DC habitable during the summer months.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

poverty...

The only segment of the US population that compares to the poor in the rest of the world is the homeless...for many of them, that is their choice.

For our liberal friends who

For our liberal friends who seem to have a problem with basic math and context, I will flip the numbers to what the poor don't have since you seem to say what's wrong with America:

  • 54 percent of all poor households don't own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.  Compared to 68.2% general home ownership rates for 2007 http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/hvs/historic/histt14.html or the flip side - 31.8% who generally don't own a home.

  • 20 percent of poor households don't have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 64 percent of the entire U.S. population didn't enjoy air conditioning.
  • Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; one third have less than two rooms per person.
  • The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
  • Nearly one quarter of poor households don't own a car; 69 percent don't own two or more cars.
  • 3 percent of poor households don't have a color television; less than half don't own two or more color televisions.
  • 22 percent don't have a VCR or DVD player.
  • 38 percent don't have cable or satellite TV reception.
  • 11 percent don't own microwave ovens, less than half don't have a stereo, and a less than a two thirds don't have an automatic dishwasher.

Interesting perspective don't you think?  And who is complaining about subprime mortgages giving poor people an opportunity to own a home???  Why that would be liberals.  The only bright spot for AGW folks is that 25% of poor households don't own a car, they have to take public transportation, walk or take a bike.  Give the AGW supporters time to get Pelosi to jack up all the taxes on fuel and disensentivize the oil companies from drilling for more oil, and that percentage should be sharply up in 5 years.

dscott's postulate:  The degree to which someone exaggerates or deceives is inversely proportional to the merit of the advocated position.

I would argue..

..that what's wrong with America is that we have too many idiot liberals spreading disinformation. 

Rally online Paul/Kucinich '09

Now a little more

Now a little more perspective.  If there are 35 million poor people as defined the Census Bureau, and if the 10 to 12 million illegals are poor (doing jobs Americans won't do), that means just about 30% of the poor are illegals.   What do you think about 6% of the households being overcrowded, who do you think is in them??? 

Would it be fair to characterize that if the illegals were taken out of the poverty stats, then essentially 99% of the poor would have color TVs, VCRs and DVD players, 1% would be overcrowded, 99% would have air conditioning, 99% would have mircrowaves, 99% would have a vehicle of some type, and home ownership would probably match the general population stats? 

In other words the only thing on this list that might indicate a household is poor is the lack of cable TV, dishwasher, a 2nd TV or stereo?  I think the standard for poor and hence in need of some assistance would be homelessness and hunger.

dscott's postulate:  The degree to which someone exaggerates or deceives is inversely proportional to the merit of the advocated position.

Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Correct me if I'm wrong.  Isn't the "poverty line" automatically adjusted for inflation each year? I believe that it is arbitralily set at a level that covers a certain per centage of people.  This means that by definition the level can never go lower.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Wow. The nerve of you

Wow. The nerve of you people to ignore the plight of the poor Americans out there.

 Look, just because someone has a house, a car, an air conditioner, a TV, a microwave, a refrigirator, a stove, a stereo, a place to sleep, food to eat, and clean water to drink doesn't mean they aren't poor.

If John Edwards tells you they are poor, then that is the end of story!

 

 

 

The earth is on fire and it is YOUR fault for owning a car...

Edwards and the poor

Well, I would say 99% of the US is poor compared to the ambulance-chasing lawyer John Edwards.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

Sharing

Then why doesn't Edwards share some of his millions with the poor rather than charging people to speak of the poor? 

Rally online Paul/Kucinich '09

Sarge...I agree 100%

That's what I ahve been saying everytime a rich liberal, especially from Hollyweird, opens their yap about raising taxes. IMHO, if they think taxes need to be raise, they should lead the way and voluntarily pay more themselves...if that doesn't solve their problems, then let's talk.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

Liberals and $$$

Liberals always want to spend YOUR money on their causes, not theirs. 

Rally online Paul/Kucinich '09

Don't you realize? Edwards

Don't you realize? Edwards is on the verge of poverty himself. He may have a few thousand extra square feet at home and some extra acreage, more cars, better barbers, and a private jet or two, but those are the only thing seperating him from the average poor American. He could be next!!!

 

The earth is on fire and it is YOUR fault for owning a car...

Actually, if you said 95%

Actually, if you said 95% (instead of 99%) of the US is poor compared to ambulance chasing lawyer John Edwards, you would be statistically correct.  5% of the population owns 70% of it's personal wealth and they also consume half of all residential electricity.  John Edwards' America has over twice the cummulative spending power of 95% of the other Americans.  Now you know why the Al Gore's of the world want the rest of us to cut back, they haven't spent to their full potential and we are cramping their style.

dscott's postulate:  The degree to which someone exaggerates or deceives is inversely proportional to the merit of the advocated position.

John should know

Damn right.

If anyone knows "poor", it's John Edwards!

 

What a joke...

What is needed is an absolute definition of "poverty"

It must include net worth and living conditions to be accurate. It cannot be just a measure of a certain revenue amount that is attained or not, else Bill Gates could decide to forgoe his salary and stock options one year and be included in "the poor". We must be able to speak of poor people in Honduras or Bangladesh or Arkansas and be refering to the same "thing". Otherwise, if being "poor" is relative to others in the same area, state, region, country, whatever...there will always be "poor" simply for the reason that there will always be those who are better off.

And maybe that is the hidden point. The liberals WANT there always to be "poor" because they always want to put people in classes to segregate them and to further their agenda of "class warfare". Because you see, if there were no classes then the liberals could not engage in the "us against them" ideology.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

Liberalism..

.. is about treating problems, not solving them. 

Rally online Paul/Kucinich '09

The key take aways that

The key take aways that Robert Rector's terrific article are two fold in regard to children and poverty:

Parents don't work much

Their fathers are absent from the home

Rector goes on to explain that if both parents together just put in what is a normal work/year of 2000 hours that 75% of the poor children would be lifted out of official poverty.

Rector states that two-thirds of poor children reside in single parent homes and each year 1.5 million children are born out of wedlock.  If poor mothers married the fathers of their children nearly three quarters of the nation's impoverished youth would immediately be lifted out of poverty.

The welfare reform bill that passed the Congress in 1996 went a long way to address the first issue.  While it still need work to encourageg those on the dole to work, major programs like food stamps, public housing and Medicaid continue to reward idleness and penalize marriage.

These are areas that shoud be addressed be all of us conservatives and we should urge our elected officials to spearhead still greater reform.  While President Bush still has time left in office, he should address these issues and propose legislation to remedy them.  He is only a lame duck if he lets himself be one.  Given the control that the Democrats have in both houses, it is unlikely that he will prevail.  However, the future Republican president in 2008 will have grist for his first legislative initiatives in 2009.   

 

I remember very clearly

I remember very clearly when the number below the poverty line fell drasticly during the Clinton administration...

... because they lowered the income level to qualify for being "officially in poverty."

The MSM neglected to report on that half of the story then too.

What amazes me, and it

What amazes me, and it shouldn't, is the question “Why are they STILL poor?” is never asked.

 

And why are so many poor, generation after generation after generation, in the only country in the world with the most opportunities for anyone - ANYONE - to EARN themselves out of poverty.

 

They seem to sing the same song as they raise their hands up:

 

“Oh God (the government), please help me.  For in this, greatest of all countries, I am a pathtic thing, so pathetic that I cannot provide for myself.”

Most folks would trade places

If I recall correctly, even the poor in the US are in the top 2% of the world when it comes to prosperity. People in remote areas of Asia, in sub-Saharan Africa, and so forth, have no indoor plumbing, no refrigeration, no clean water, no access to even basic medical care, etc. A family is relatively affluent in rural Thailand if they have a single motorscooter to pile onto. A car? Not in their wildest dreams. Trudge for an entire day down off the mountain to see a doctor -- if there is one and if you can pay him. 

Though I have to admit that the bamboo huts up on stilts are very comfortable, a bit of DDT to keep the mosquitos at bay would be nice. 

Even our homeless living on the streets are better off than the average joes in sub-Saharan Africa, where there are no soup kitchens or homeless shelters or free clinics to get a shot of penicillin.

Yeah, it's miserable to be struggling to pay the bills, but it's nice to actually have water, sewer, electric, and phones to be scraping together the money to pay for.

For the first time since I

For the first time since I joined this site, you guys are making me mad!

 Have any of you ever been poor?

When I got out of school, I had a color TV that was discarded by an old roomate.  A car that my parents gave me when they got a new one.  I had the stereo I got for my ninth birthday.  I still don't own my own house, but I had enough material comforts to distract me from the stress of living hand to mouth.  And I have always been lucky enough to enjoy the security of help from loved ones.  Not everyone has that.

But none of those objects affect the real horror of not making enough money: the what-ifs.  What if I get sick?  What if I am injured and can't work?  What if my kid needs braces?  What if I have a kid?  We have a high standard of living in this country, astronomically high compared to some parts of the world, but we have very few safety nets.  If you haven't teetered on the brink, you can't know how scary it is to look over the edge and think "Can I really live out of this car?"

The programs that liberals want to put in place to help the poor in this country have nothing to do with buying them more dishwashers or VCR.  They have to do with protecting them when the delicate financial balancing act falls apart because of bad luck or unfortunate circumstances.  It's melodramatic, I know, but there is no number of color televisions that can help you when your kid has leukemia.

Okay, no wait.  I thought

Okay, no wait.  I thought about that last statement for a minute.

A million color televisions would totally help you if your kid got leukemia.

My bad.

Oh, I see.  So it's

Oh, I see.  So it's everyone else's responsibility to bridge the gap when you over-extend yourself. 

I think pretty much all of

I think pretty much all of us have been poor at one time of another, but nobody I know has ever had to go begging for food. I have had neighbors who were on welfare, and some of them milked the system for all its worth. They kept having babies, kept spending money on smokes and booze. "Poverty" is a term the Left uses to invoke "white guilt" that soooo many Americans seem to suffer from, and, after a trillion of dollars spent on socialist programs since the 30's, what do we have to show for it? Nada.

There is no way the government can protect every citizen on the continent from getting cancer, or having parents die in a car crash, so your leukemia example is rather silly.  The job of the goverment is NOT to place everybody in their own special protective bubble of a gerbil ball, unless, of course, you are a Marxist.

 

Yes. When I got out of

Yes.

When I got out of working full time through school, all I had was a 6 year old computer I had bought myself, a used junker car that I had bought myself, and one backpack full of clothes which, you guessed it, I had bought myself.  I'd been paying for my own food clothing, and utilities since I was 12.  Thankfully my parents didn't start charging for rent until my 18th birthday.  When it came to my tuition, for which I received no need-based aid since my parents were too wealthy despite giving me nothing for school, I managed to make half tuition on my first degree on merit alone.  I worked to pay for my dorm.  I took out loans.  I sank into a mire of credit card debt.  I did the careful balanced diet of ramen and bagels.  And I worked my own way out of it.  I never missed a loan payment, I never missed a rent payment, I never missed a credit card payment, and I never demanded that my neighbors bail me out through welfare.  I did however accept the charity of my friends from time to time in gifts of food, and sometimes shelter.  The difference is that they were able to choose to help me, and not forced to do so by a government that "knew better" what they should do with their hard own earned money.  And because that charity came from friends, I have been able to repay their kindnesses in turn, which has brought me a deep sense of honor and self worth.

"Free money" is more addictive than heroin and provides no incentive for those in need to better themselves.  It merely perpetuates the situation.  Charity is infinitely more effective at helping when it originates from a familiar face.