Noel,

I know you can compile this in a hurry.

"the record cold days V.S. the record hot days"

What is it like 6 to one,, all those dazes in Africia, and South America cold stuff. Where's the "hottest ever" dazes and dazes  to off set this cold?

Mojave,

your statement covers the climate change devotives . AKA carbon taxers. no matter what the weather we shall tax you. 

The Boston tea party went off over a 1/2 % tax!

Don't forget to Factor in the urban heat thinggy, over NYC ..!

Entitlement over infrastructure every SINGLE time.

"If you don't believe in global warming/climate change, does it have to affect everyone else?"

The problem is, the theories of the AGW people keep falling apart, but instead of working to prove they're right with better scientific validation, they claim consensus, attack the doubters, refuse to debate, etc, etc.   The media constantly fawns over AGW people and accepts whatever they say without speaking with anyone who dissents.   

In spite of all of the above, they "affect everyone else" with stupidity like Ethanol, which is the second worst idea to come out of this entire debacle.  (The worst idea is to make Ethanol mandatory.)

So, you have it backwards.  It's the AGW gang who, in spite of the above, are forcing stupid behavior changes on the rest of us.

Bush's legislation has more to do with breaking the dependance on foriegn oil because the liberal moonbats won't let the U.S. drill our own reserves, or build more refineries.

These same politicians, and activists with dubious support from the MSM will also not allow us to have the most efficient power generating facilities which are nuclear.

The last refineries, and nuclear plants were built in the 1970's, since then population, and demand have far outpaced supply.

Now with that being said keep in mind we conservatives also appreciate all the above mentioned such as clean air, more forests etc., etc.

I love feul economy primarily because I dont' like paying a small fortune every time I fill up. I primarily recycle because it is better for the manufacturers to use trash, than raw materials when making products, which in turn is also better for my pocket.

The problem is AGW is the age old "have's, and have not's" argument disguised as the newest alarmism from the left. Liberals think it's unfair that the U.S. is so prosperous, and the majority of the rest of the world is not.

This has nothing to do with the Earth, but everything to do with breaking the back of capitalism, and introducing some socialist utopia, or hippie Mecca if you will.

You say you are an Athiest but live in harmony with those that are religious, I applaude you. The problem is with the left, it is the few trying to push their politics on the many, and not living by their own virtue.

 It's not about "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

EC,

I congratulate you for asking some very important and valid questions which I hope to answer to your liking and/or amusement:

[W]hy should someone be seen as a moonbat for fighting for cleaner air, more efficient cars, more forests, more efficient power stations, recycling, soil rehabilitation, etc?

What you've asked here assumes that AGW skeptics want dirtier air, less efficient cars, less forests, less efficient power stations, no recycling, and no soil rehabilitation. Correct?

Do you really believe that anyone wants dirtier air, etc?

Are you kidding?

I am a skeptic, but I have allergic asthma. I want cleaner air than you quite likely. This has NOTHING to do with clean air. NOTHING.

Furthermore, I want to reduce America's dependence on oil, and DRAMATICALLY increase fuel efficiencies. Honestly, WHO WOULDN'T?

You're totally misunderstanding this issue, and the position of most conservatives on most environmental issues. Though we strive just as much as greens for cleaner air, less dependence on oil, and greater fuel efficiency, we're not willing to sacrifice the entire economy and our very way of life on costly solutions to environmental problems that might not exist and might not do a damn thing.

All of this discussion concerning CO2 admittedly in the eyes of the IPCC will have little impact on temperatures. We have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that we can impact climate at all. As such, until we've identified beyond a shadow of a doubt that what we're currently doing is actually raising temperatures -- a conclusion that has not been made by any qualified scientist regardless of what the media have presented to idiots around the world -- and, maybe more importantly, have proven that our behavior can actually reverse such impact and reduce temperatures, why would we spend billions nay trillions to do anything?

When you can answer this question, I will venture to answer the rest of yours. Fair enough? ns

Eyecare, the reason they should be seen as moonbats is that they continue to push lifestyle changes on me because of their beliefs, and attempt to make it law so it is mandated.  Algore wants to abolish the internal combustion engine, and Sheryl Crow wants to dictate how many squares of toilet tissue I use.  They want to raise the price of gasoline so no one will buy it and force us all into buying hybrid vehicles.  But of course, it's okay for Streisand to have a massive air-conditioned horse barn because she's an elite liberal, more enlightened than the rest of us idiots.

I am a stay-at-home mom with only one car (we were hit by an illegal alien in 2005 and our other car was totalled).  We live a seven-minute walk from my children's school.  Algore can blab all he wants to me about a so-called "carbon footprint"; assuming that it does exist for the sake of argument, his footprint is several hundred thousand times that of mine.

Until it is proven with the scientific method and retested beyond a shadow of a doubt, I will not pay more taxes or change my lifestyle for junk science.  Let the free market dictate what happens and it will take care of itself.  They can continue publishing articles about "moose burps" (unfortunately, I'm not kidding) and plan on killing moose to change the environment, or they can move on to their next cause-celebre and shut-up because I'm sick of it.

"If you don't believe in global warming/climate change, does it have to affect everyone else?"

If you do believe in global warming/climate change, does it have to affect everyone else? For all I care, you can use a horse-drawn carriage to get around, live in a tent and make your clothes out of dead leaves, if that's what floats your boat. Just don't tell me I have sign up for your religion, especially if all you've got to back up your thesis is a 1 degree increase in temperature that "may" have occured over the last 100 years on a planet where fluctuations in temperature over the history of this planet is the norm, not the exception.

"That said, why should someone be seen as a moonbat for fighting for
cleaner air, more efficient cars, more forests, more efficient power
stations, recycling, soil rehabilitation, etc?"

One isn't seen as a moonbat for wanting these things, one is seen as a moonbat for the way one fights for, and claims one makes about these things. One is also rightly seen as a moonbat when one has to lie about and make up "facts" to prove one's mythological flavor/catastrophe of the moment.

And if one believes man can control the climate, one is rightly seen as a moonbat because one IS a moonbat.

I didn't see your question until just now.  I work near New Hampton part of the time for my job, so I am familiar with it somewhat.  I'm a long way from West Liberty.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Great comeback - U DA MAN!!! How'd you know I work fast food??? How can I debate with that - U DA MAN!!!

 Why is it Dave we at  NB end up with all the KOS rejects. Someone needs to talk to Moulitsas, and tell him to start re-directing his bastard children over to LGF. We are too nice to them over here.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.