NASA’s Hansen Quotes Thomas Jefferson to Incite Global Warming Hysteria

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Well, it only took a week for NASA's James Hansen to formally address the changes made to the United States historical climate record by the agency he oversees.

When he finally got around to it, Hansen actually quoted from a letter Thomas Jefferson sent to James Madison in 1789 to suggest that the Founding Father would have been a global warming alarmist, while castigating today's skeptics as court jesters employed by oil companies.

Oddly, Hansen's statement didn't appear at the Goddard Instititute For Space Studies website, but instead cropped up unceremoniously at Slashdot Friday morning (h/t Glenn Reynolds).

Regardless of the delay, Hansen's piece entitled "The Real Deal: Usufruct & the Gorilla," represents a marvelous example of how unscientific the alarmists are in their approach to this issue, and how even the head of a major NASA division feels the need to insult and attack those who disagree with him and pay his salary through their tax dollars (emphasis added throughout):

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What we have here is a case of dogged contrarians who present results in ways intended to deceive the public into believing that the changes have greater significance than reality. They aim to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I believe that these people are not stupid, instead they seek to create a brouhaha and muddy the waters in the climate change story. They seem to know exactly what they are doing and believe they can get away with it, because the public does not have the time, inclination, and training to discern what is a significant change with regard to the global warming issue.

The proclamations of the contrarians are a deceit, but their story raises a more important matter, usufruct. It is the most important issue in the entire global warming story, in my opinion. The players in the present U.S. temperature story, we scientists included, are just bit players. The characters in the main drama are big fish, really big fish.

Amazing, wouldn't you agree? After all, the deception is all Hansen's in not announcing the changes to this record the moment they occurred, and in continuing to refuse the requests of folks like Stephen McIntyre to make public all of the data collection methods and computer codes involved in the GISS's temperature calculations.

Yet, Hansen was just getting started with his disingenuous finger-pointing:

The deceit behind the attempts to discredit evidence of climate change reveals matters of importance. This deceit has a clear purpose: to confuse the public about the status of knowledge of global climate change, thus delaying effective action to mitigate climate change. The danger is that delay will cause tipping points to be passed, such that large climate impacts become inevitable, including the loss of all Arctic sea ice, destabilization of the West Antarctic ice sheet with disastrous sea level rise later this century, and extermination of a large fraction of animal and plant species (see "Dangerous", "Trace Gases", and "Gorilla" papers).

Make no doubt, however, if tipping points are passed, if we, in effect, destroy Creation, passing on to our children, grandchildren, and the unborn a situation out of their control, the contrarians who work to deny and confuse will not be the principal culprits. The contrarians will be remembered as court jesters. There is no point to joust with court jesters. They will always be present. They will continue to entertain even if the Titanic begins to take on water. Their role and consequence is only as a diversion from what is important.

So, folks like McIntyre, Fred Singer, Richard Lindzen, Tim Ball, Benny Peiser, Robert Carter, Anthony Watts, and all those around the world including myself who are exposing the flaws in the anthropogenic global warming myth are jesters deceiving the public.

Meanwhile, the work of Hansen concerning this issue continues to have holes poked in it by these "jesters" while he refuses to share the methodologies and computer codes responsible for the data he is disseminating.

Who's deceiving who, James?

Alas, there was more:

The real deal is this: the ‘royalty' controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children. The court jesters are their jesters, occasionally paid for services, and more substantively supported by the captains' disinformation campaigns.

Is this how a scientist whose services are paid for with American tax dollars should behave?

Dave Price at Dean's World certainly doesn't think so (emphasis added):

When you're working to advance science, the appropriate response when someone finds an error in your data or calculations is contrition (best expressed by an openness to further scrutiny and re-evaluation), and perhaps gratitude that truth has been served.

[...]

I didn't know much about Hansen before this incident, but this does not inspire confidence in his work.

As has been noted before, if Hansen really cares about global warming as much as he claims, he needs to release all the GISS data and algorithms for public scrutiny. Someone reverse-engineered GISS' work to find this error, which as a programmer I can tell you is a very troubling harbinger, as it means it was fairly obvious. Maybe the rest of the GISS data is perfect, but sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Again, if global warming really matters to Hansen, he should be doing everything possible to ensure the integrity of the data and calculations his apocalyptic rhetoric is based on; that's the scientific method to dispel doubt, not calling your critics names when they find flaws in your work.

Exactly, especially if you are an employee of the federal government.

Yet, Hansen was still not done, and in his next castigation of folks like myself, he used a little-known legal term, as well as Thomas Jefferson, to further distort the issue at hand:

Court jesters serve as a distraction, a distraction from usufruct. Usufruct is the matter that the captains wish to deny, the matter that they do not want their children to know about. They realize that if there is no ‘gorilla', then usufruct is not an important issue for them. So, with the help of jesters, they deny the existence of the gorilla. There is no danger of melting the Arctic, of destabilizing the West Antarctic ice sheet, of increasing hydrologic extremes, more droughts and stronger forest fires on one hand and heavier downpours and floods on the other, threats to the fresh water supplies of huge numbers of people in different parts of the globe. "Whew! It is lucky that, as our jesters show, these are just imaginary concerns. We captains of industry can continue with business-as-usual, we do not need to face the tough problem of how to maintain profits without destroying our legacy in our children's eyes."

Usufruct is as American as the Declaration of Independence, implicit in the Preamble "...to ourselves and our Posterity...". It is explicitly discussed in a famous letter of 6 September 1789 from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, discussing the proposed Bill of Rights to be added to the Constitution: "The question whether one generation of men has a right to bind another. . . is a question of such consequences as not only to merit decision, but place also among the fundamental principles of every government. . . . I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self-evident, 'that the Earth belongs in usufruct to the living' . . ."

What's fascinating here is that Hansen was introducing a legal term that likely few readers have ever heard, or understand the meaning and relevance to this matter, but chose not to define it so that the reader could determine said relevance or lack thereof.

In fact, at the end of his article, Hansen admitted that even he was unaware of this concept: "I am indebted to Jim Wine for schooling me in ‘usufruct'."

Interesting that Hansen is indebted to getting schooled concerning matters of law, but so hostile and ungrateful when he gets schooled in matters of science.

Regardless, as Hansen chose not to explain to the reader what usufruct is - much like he disingenuously hides data collection methodologies and computer codes from the public - the Constitutional Law Foundation defines usufruct (emphasis added):

In Jefferson's time, as now, "usufruct" referred to "the right to make all the use and profit of a thing that can be made without injuring the substance of the thing itself." f122 It was a term used to describe the rights and responsibilities of tenants, trustees, or other parties temporarily entrusted with the use of an asset -- usually land. f123

Under the common law, the doctrine of usufruct is closely conjoined with the doctrine prohibiting waste, defined by Blackstone as "a spoil or destruction in houses, gardens, trees, or other corporeal hereditaments, to the disheison of him that hath the remainder or reversion." f124 Taken together, these two doctrines provide that a tenant (or other caretaker / interest holder) is entitled to the beneficial use of the land and its fruits, but is prohibited from prejudicing future interest bearers by using the land in a way that destroys or impairs its essential character or long term productivity. f125

Jefferson's philosophy that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living at least partially reiterates the biblical/Lockean paradigm of the earth as intergenerational commons, the fruits and benefits of which should be accessible to every member of every generation. f126 He takes the position that no landholder has a natural right to control the land or dispose of it after his or her death. The land is entailed to the larger society; it reverts to the larger society upon the holder's death. Society may choose to pass the land on to beneficiaries or assignees chosen by the original landholder, but there is nothing in natural law which requires this. "By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or moveable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it." f127

Society, as trustee of the earth, reasonably expects the natural estate to be returned undiminished at the end of each landholder's tenure. Jefferson maintains that each individual, and each generation collectively, has the obligation to pass on his, her, or its natural estate undiminished and unencumbered to later generations.

With this in mind, it appears that Hansen, and his friend Jim Wine, don't really understand what usufruct is, what Jefferson was saying, and how it relates to global warming. For instance, here's the section of Jefferson's letter to Madison Hansen chose not to share with his readers (emphasis added):

I set out on this ground which I suppose to be self evident, "that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living;" that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by an individual ceases to be his when himself ceases to be, and reverts to the society. If the society has formed no rules for the appropriation of its lands in severalty, it will be taken by the first occupants. These will generally be the wife and children of the decedent. If they have formed rules of appropriation, those rules may give it to the wife and children, or to some one of them, or to the legatee of the deceased. So they may give it to his creditor. But the child, the legatee or creditor takes it, not by any natural right, but by a law of the society of which they are members, and to which they are subject. Then no man can by natural right oblige the lands he occupied, or the persons who succeed him in that occupation, to the paiment of debts contracted by him. For if he could, he might during his own life, eat up the usufruct of the lands for several generations to come, and then the lands would belong to the dead, and not to the living, which would be reverse of our principle.

As such, Jefferson's letter to Madison is totally irrelevant as it pertains to global warming, and was either thoroughly misinterpreted by Hansen, or used to distort the issue by somehow tying it to a Founding Father's words.

After all, what Jefferson was talking about was rights of property inheritance, and how the decedent's real estate must somehow pass to a human being upon his demise rather than being owned in perpituity by a creditor. That's the usufruct Jefferson was addressing, and not what Hansen presented:

"Jefferson's philosophy regarding generational relations was based on this "self-evident" principle. That we have an obligation to preserve Creation for today's and future generations."

No, James. That's not what Jefferson was writing about, and has absolutely no relevance here. Jefferson just wanted to make clear to Madison that he believed property owned by a citizen must pass to another citizen upon his demise. That's all.

In the end, given how badly Hansen has misinterpreted Jefferson's letter, I'd love to advise him to stay away from Constitutional law, and stick with science. Sadly for all those concerned, Hansen appears to have an equally abysmal command of both.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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}}---> Wow, that's zany

"There is no point to joust with court jesters."

Doesn't take much to figure what he's saying here.  "Call them fools and you won't have to deal with them."

How about this Hansen:  "Bigots will not be tolerated."

The first couple of paragraphs from this yokel could easily describe those on his side of the argument.  I don't see why the contrarian view is necessarily the null hypothesis.

Seems it should take some honest data to dissuade scientists from the much observed changes to climate throughout History.  Evidently not.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

As Ring Lardner put it

"Shut up!" he explained.

So, a bigot is a person who does not
entertain other opinions. Mr Hansen has pointed out in many
different ways that he will not entertain other opinions.

There are many things Thomas Jefferson espoused, including rewriting the
Constitution every generation, which he defined as 19
years. He was sort of the Newt Gingrich of his time--lots
more ideas than good ideas.

Great insight.

Great job rebutting Hansen's comments, Noel. Once again, you whipped him with half your brain tied behind your back (just to make it fair). Thanks to Rush for that line..... If AGW is so inevitable, you would think they would want all their data and methods open to scrutiny, so that we can make them better and fight off their apocalyptic vision of the future. Since they won't do that, we have no choice but to try to poke holes in their theory from a distance (or with better and more logical scientists). Science is about doing all you can to disprove a theory so that it can stand on it's own as the pure truth.  There are so many holes in their theories right now, there is no way they can be close to the truth.

"Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics." Michael Crichton

why not debate

Why is it that these people sounding the global warming alarm spend so much ink and time going after skeptics instead of just laying out their science for everyone to see?

If it's such a clear cut case then you shouldn't need to worry about skeptics. The fact that they do tells me that they are more concerned about these people preventing action than they are in "proving" their science. Either Hanssen and others really believe what they are saying or they are religiously devoted to the cause and nothing can be allowed to get in their way.


Saddam Hussein and terrorism. The rest of the story...


http://www.regimeofterror.com

Three days ago my local

Three days ago my local weather report said it would be sunny today. It is now raining. How the F&^# can they predict anything like global warming with any accuracy if they can't predict the weather more than a couple of days in advance. Oh, I 'm sorry, I am not a "True Believer".

Noel, I think that Hanson

Noel, I think that Hanson could have easly replaced the "jester" with "lier", in his rant aginst the logical among us. That would be us skeptics. So we are not stupid, but liers is the way I read it.

Still, I find it strange, indeed, that a NASA scientist would refuse to release his method and reason for reaching his conclusions, unless he knows they are faulty and inaccurate, and fears that his deception would be easly identified, there by demonstrating his ignorance, stupidity or his fraud. Or maybe all three. 

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

"...thus delaying effective

"...thus delaying effective action to mitigate climate change."

I'm curious what he would give as an answer if asked the question, "How do you fix climate change?" As a liberal, I'm sure he hasn't given that question much thought though. His answer would probably involve forming committees.

I can tell you exactly what it would take to solve Global Warming. All it would take would be for us to elect a democrat into the White House. I'm old enough to remember there was a big environmental movement before Bill Clinton was elected. Afterward, you didn't hear much from Greenpeace or the Sierra Club anymore.

What is it with liberals on Jefferson

I fail to see why liberals are always quoting Jefferson or Madison in trying to make points by lying about what they are writing.

Jefferson was a bright person, but he was human and proven wrong numerous times. He actually admitted to John Adams that he was wrong on revolution as it murdered 11 million Frenchmen. Teddy Roosevelt castigates Jefferson for his "anti military" stance in leaving America in such a vulnerable state that another "hero" of the liberals in Madison got America invaded and the White House burnt down.

Yes Hansen lies about what Jefferson states as Mr. Sheppard effectively points out, but Hansen does not understand Jefferson at all because he uses the word PRESERVE.

Jefferson fully intended to preserve for Americans the heritage of liberty, meaning responsible freedom where people conducted their lives for the good fruition of American culture, but Jefferson KNEW THAT YOU COULD NOT PRESERVE EARTH.

That is the biggest moronic mindset these liberals can not understand. No one can preserve Earth, no one can pile seals on a shelf, no one can pen deer in herds forever, because everything on Earth is designed to decompose and feed another life cycle. Jefferson knew in his farming that one can CONSERVE, which means in the Biblical to HUSBANDMEN or develop wilderness into productive areas like all the earth........for you did not do it, rivers would flood and wipe out nature, fires would burn and wipe out nature and natures mechanism of destruction from insects to plague would cleanse nature of over abundance.

I by God's grace posted here and explained from my work that what is happening now in this solar cycle is a warming where more vapor is being generated from bandwidth solar heat that effects water (not gases) in an earth "sweating" process designed to offset the solar heating.

This is why glaciers are growing as more moisture is available and is why flooding is happening around the world. The earth in God's perfect plan is regulating itself as it always has.

Clear CO2, oxygen, nitrogen etc... do not absorb any heat nor trap any heat. Earth is not a greenhouse as you noticed there are no glass windows trapping long wave radiation. Water as in clouds are what retain heat but only for a few hours each night and there is on built upon heating which accumilates on Earth. Nights always along with high pressure systems cool the planet off quickly.

The reason Venus is hot is because it is close to the sun, Earth is cooler as it perfect from the sun and Mars is cold as it is far from the sun. If greenhouse gases were the cause of built up heat, then Jupiter and Saturn being larger, all gas should be by now infernos.....they are not, but cold spheres and that is because of distance from the solar heater.

As featured here the soot fires of Asia are absorbing heat over the Indian ocean, but that is not gases but soot which is dark absorbing more specific solar heat energy. It is local and not global.

Mr. Hansen and his ilk from Al Gore to Galen McKinley are uninspired fools. The earth is reacting perfectly and great benefits will occur if these wet cycles continue in dry places as they will make the planet flourish.

I was inspired in all of this by God in simply asking Him for understanding and He inspired the information to answer my questions. People can mock it, but the science is sound without one hole in it to challenge. God deserves all the credit and I give it to Him........just like He is the Law of this planet and everything is working perfectly according to His principles.

I am not a jester nor have I ever received a cent from big oil. I will not even be awarded a Nobel Prize for science in this work which is as human expanding that any understanding has been in Newton or Einstein. That is the shame in this that a group of Darwinian flat earth God denying morons have seized science now making man a god and thinking man is a devil at the same time.

Hansen should be fired as his science is so foolish in thinking one can preserve the Earth. The Grand Canyon is horrific destruction. The Yellowstone is horrific destruction. The continents divided are horrific destruction. People can not preserve a thing on Earth as this is a consuming law.

Hansen not knowing this is flat world and if NASA has figured out that the shuttle is not going to fall off the end of the earth in being launced.........NASA needs to figure out to fire these Darwin fools.

PS I can insult Darwin all I like as he is a family member of mine. He suffered trauma over the death of a child friend he adored, went crazy, came up with his Godless natural selection and then in his dying days renounced his idiocy which plagues science now and returned to God.

I can only pray that Hansen finds God and stops playing a fool in insulting others inspired by God.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Change, like S##^, happens.

Change, like S##^, happens. The himalayas were once the sea floor. Oil and coal were once tropical forests. One day our civilization will be a half-inch layer in the strata of a mountain. I can see trying, within reason, not to pollute our environment. I don't like poisonous air or water and other toxicities. I don't mind recycling certain items, but I haven't heard anything from these "true believers" (yahoos) about what we are to do about their claims and how much it would really cost us to implement "whatever" to prevent the coming global catastrophe. This is about economic and political control not about climate. The so-called environmental movement is just a morphed Comintern.  

Keep the Faith

>> I can only pray that Hansen finds God and stops playing a fool in insulting others inspired by God.

I can almost hear the devil laughing as he pulls the strings of puppets like Hansen.

I agree with what what

I agree with what what you're saying, but I have to take issue with the accuracy of one of your statements:

"The reason Venus is hot is because it is close to the sun, Earth is cooler as it perfect from the sun and Mars is cold as it is far from the sun. If greenhouse gases were the cause of built up heat, then Jupiter and Saturn being larger, all gas should be by now infernos.....they are not, but cold spheres and that is because of distance from the solar heater."

1) The surface on Venus is hotter than even Mercury - the closest planet to the sun.  The reason is that Venus has a bona-fide greenhouse effect, but far above the scale then even the environmentalist wackos believe humanity is capable of.

2) Jupiter and Saturn are not cold spheres.  In fact, they don't have surfaces at all.  They're gas giants - in other words, they're both giant spheres of compressed gas.  Their internal pressure and heat is far beyond that of even Venus.  The Galileo spacecraft was sent into Jupiter in 2003 and only lasted 58 minutes before it was crushed by the extreme pressure and heat (307.4 degrees F in the upper atmosphere alone).

This is not vengeance.  Revenge is not a valid motive - it's an emotional response.  No, not vengeance.  Punishment.

So their temperature data was flawed for SEVEN YEARS

So their temperature data was flawed for SEVEN YEARS before they figured out that time of day and date stamps on TEMPERATURES they track from their stupid rundown stations AFFECTS the outcome of their crackpot computer crap.

 Geeze, nothing wrong here, just a GIGANTIC SEVEN YEARS of flawed data....we uhh... well.....we uhh..gee if someone had checked if the temperature data we were getting was like- uhh... errr... ummm... uhh.. ahhh... well these things take time... SEVEN YEARS in this case.

 Look, this is what bureaucacy and govey employees give you. NONE of this is their reputaton or their life or livelihood. It's don't rock the cracked cradle and make anyone else feel bad, and just ganter along blindly in error for seven years...then when exposed pretend it never really happened that way and doesn't mean nary a thang.

 It's no wonder they can't keep the foam glued to the shuttles boosters, or keep the tiles on. This guy won't be fired for 7 years of temperature data flaws. Keep the lunatic machine running, millions of people's republic paychecks and the demo party machine is in the balance.

~ this only affects our temp data .15 degree. Uhh for the last 7 years... and we've claimed 1 degree for the last century... soo .. ahh... 100/7=14.29 x .15 degrees = 2.14 degrees of FLAWS with just this one exposed error.

 But uhh.... our degree temp raise of global warming is correct!!! please please believe us!!! OMG We're melting!!!!!! * cue the wicked witch audio please.

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Seven damn years. 

And they themselves didn't find the error!  Gee, maybe there's a reason the scientific method involves attempting to recreate each other's work as a way of DOUBLE CHECKING the results.

I still can't believe this.  A major flaw was found in James Hansen's work, the theory of AGW keeps taking body blow after body blow and his reaction is to lash out at Big Oil. 

Hansen

Hansen, having been caught with his computer models down and his pockets filled with GW advocate green backs,  is in a flailing attempt to save himself by the tried-and-true method used by such scoundrels - kill the messenger(s).

The fact that he is resorting to name-calling proves he has entered the period  of desperation and is in the early stages of self-destruction.

He must be using Algore as his computer model.

Hansen's Credibility

James Hansen has so completely staked his reputation on the AGW hypothesis, that I have to wonder if he can have a future with NASA when it inevitably fails to pan out.

On another note, I wish that critics had approached the climate record corrections differently. It's essentially irrelevant which year was the hottest on record; what is relevant is that the methodology for measuring and recording temperatures was obviously flawed. If the raw data cannot be trusted, why then should we trust the conclusions reached by Hansen  et al.?

You've got to be kidding me

You've got to be kidding me. Our bigshot top NASA scientist writes his defense rebuttal and titles it:

   "The Real Deal: Usufruct & the Gorilla,"

       All I can say is what the heck is that ?

                  Einstein would be so proud.

 Usufruct and the Gorilla, oh wait, Jane Goodall and her chimp cohorts are proud.

definition, usufruct: the legal right to use and derive profit from property belonging to someone else provided that the property is not injured in any way.

Gee, why am I not surprised, and how is it that I smell a gigantic idiot liberal ? Any guesses?

I completely agree.  A

I completely agree. 

A personal anecdote:  This whole usufruct nonsense reminds me of a face-to-face religious debate that I had recently with an activist lesbian* who tried to block whatever I told her as, "mere jingoism to the extreme!" 

When I asked her what "jingoism" meant, she evaded the question for several minutes, attributing the term to that great author and sociopolitical commentator, Terry_Pratchett.  Um. . .WTF???  Yeah, just roll with me here.

So anyway, after I got her to admit that she really didn't know enough about the word to effectively utilize it in a conversation (that didn't even have anything to do with the word to begin with), she got so furiously shrill with me that we haven't spoken since.  =D

Goodnight sweet Annie, wherever you are. 

-PJ   

*My ex-girlfriend as a matter of fact.  Eh, I have that effect on the ladiez.  >;)

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

For my own enlightenment:

Jingoism: chauvinistic patriotism, usually associated with a War Hawk political stance. In practice, it refers to sections of the general public who advocate the use of threats or of actual force against other countries in order to safeguard a country's national interests.

I didn't know what it meant so I had to look it up.  I popped it in here in case there was one other soul as bereft of this word as was I. 

So, by this definition, am I a Jingo?  I like the concept :o)

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

So basically they

So basically they have created a derogatory term for conservative.  Well, my response is to call them LIBERALS as a derogatory term, it's been so effective that the libs are changing their name to Progressive.    Of course we could also change that to Socialist and enunciate it just like we do LIBERAL as a curse word. (Pardon my French, sarcasm)

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Sorry about that Helen;

Sorry about that Helen; Dscott.  Since coming here to NB, I've noticed a lot of liberal blog links that use that word quite often.  Hehe, and here I thought I was the only odd man out.

Yep, even if you're not the religious type, you're still labeled as one if you consider yourself politically conservative. 

-PJ 

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

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a case of dogged contrarians who present results in ways intended to deceive the public into believing

Yeah.  This from the guy who petulantly refused to release his temperature algorithm and, instead, keeps pleading for yet another ten years to be proven right.

James Hansen is a serious embarrassment to science.  Thank heavens other scientists have had more respect for the standards of their discipline.

Great post, Noel.

They (the deniers) seem to

They (the deniers) seem to know exactly what they are doing and believe they can get away with it, because the public does not have the time, inclination, and training to discern what is a significant change with regard to the global warming issue.

    So from his point of view, he is opposed by liars and an uneducated apathetic public.  I hope Mr. Hansen isn't getting nose bleeds sitting on such a high pedestal.

   He reminds me of what my dad would tell me when I was a little kid.  He would say "There are only two kinds of people in the world.  Those that agree with me and those that are wrong."

 

MA

MA,

I like your dad! :-) ns

   Thank you.  I just

   Thank you.  I just lost him a month ago at the age of 88.  He was a lifelong Republican.  But now, after his passing, he'll probably be voting for democrats.

  (he would like that joke)

usufruct. only

Noel knows. Excellent piece. Lets some looney loose with dictionary and then have them find a word rarely used and apply it to Global Warming!! You usufructed it to total usufruct.

Thanks Noel for putting a light on this bug. Now when I stamp out a pesky insect I say " usufruct you spider !!".

Can I get a decent paying job with a big oil company?

 

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Hey!  Get in line!

"When you're working to

"When you're working to advance science, the appropriate response when
someone finds an error in your data or calculations is contrition"

Dude, that's not an error, that's a feature, lol.

For someone who has been "silenced" by the Bush administration, this guy sure does a lot of communicating his(flawed-bogus) point of view.

Scientific Method Goes "Boink"*

The obvious and really funny thing is that so many apologists for AGW used this flawed data and subsequent conclusions (lists of warmest years) as "proof" that AGW is a real entity.  Yet Hansen can't conceive that his science is flawed in the most important area-data collection.  Without precise initial data, all conclusions or hypotheses formed on flawed data are open to re-examination; this is something that Al Bore and the AGW alarmists cannot tolerate.

All in all, he disproves the point he is attempting to make:  "The proclamations of the contrarians are a deceit..."

And AWG deceivers are above reproach?  If they are really interested in proving their point scientifically, they should readily repeat their data collection and present their results to a scientific audience for review and verification.  By Hansen's attitude, he is relunctant to admit the scientific errors and instead he reduces his science to the attitude he accuses the "contrarians" of being-emotional reactionaries.

*apologies to Bill Waterson

It's called Projection. 

It's called Projection.  The deceiver in this case, Hansen, is accusing everyone who disagrees as guilty of precisely of what he himself is doing.  It is the last desparate act of a liar in the hope they can somehow convince enough people or muddy the waters enough not to be exposed for their deception.  AGW is now in the final stage of unraveling, only through sheer guile by the deceiver or quitting by those exposing the scheme will Hansen and Gore be successful. 

Just as repeating a lie over and over again is effective in deceiving people, repeating the facts/truth continually will unravel the lie.  We must keep writing and keep up the pressure to get Fox News and the Washington Times to print the facts.  As this is done, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

Take note of this template as it is used by lib Dems on a variety of agendas from AGW to the Iraq terrorism front.  Anytime the lib Dems engage in this type of shrill behavior it is a sign of their desparation and tacit admission of their own guilt.  They practically tell you the methods of how they accomplished their misdeeds, all one need do is list the accusations they make as it is what they do or intend to do or want to do if given the opportunity.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Moonbat

Right all along, globull warming, it's a hoax, thanks for proving it Mr Hansen.

I wonder what real scientists think is becoming of science and trust of scitentists?

James Hansen should be compelled to produce his methods.

Hansen is a government employee whose agency just happens to have access to billions of our taxpayer dollars. The idea that he should not have to produce his methodology for the scrutiny of other scientists in this area is completely unnacceptable.

Insults aside

What Hansen seems to be doing, as you point out Noel, is switching from a scientific argument to a legal one.

Using his twisted reasoning, he is telling us we have to accept the alarmist viewpoint in spite of the scientific evidence against it - just in case... And if we don't, we're deceivers...

I guess to the APGW crowd, if science doesn't work, try sophistry.

 

Suffering Usufructash!!!

The article clearly shows that Hansen doesn't understand the meaning of usufruct; for he benefits from it. 

note: Hansen used climate change nine times, global warming seven; yet not once, did he use anthrpogenic or manmade. Is this a snag in his tights, or, is he covering for Chicken Little?

...not once did he use

...not once did he use anthrpogenic or manmade. Is this a snag in his tights, or, is he covering for Chicken Little?

I've noticed this quite often from the GW alarmists; they go on and on about global warming (which is happening due to natural processes outside of man's control), and then - as if they've been talking about AGW all along (which they haven't) - say, "Anyone who doesn't agree with us is an idiot and/or a pawn of Big Oil."

It's no different from the debate over stem cell research; they use "stem cell research" when what they really mean is "embryonic stem cell research". Then they accuse everyone who is against ESC research (which has accomplished zilch) of being against all stem cell research (which shows promise).

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"I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me."
- Lt. General George S. Patton

Hansen uses the criticisms of the AGW Zealots

and turns then on their ear by applying them to the critics who are asking for actual scientific principles to be applied rather then the hysteria and bigoted closed mindedness of "the debate is over".

Hansen says that his data showed 2006 to be the "Hottest Year on record" yet someone who reverse engineers his algorithm shows a flaw and that 1934 is still the hottest year on record. Hansen calls him a liar and a fool yet still refuses to release the computer calculations that the original flawed proclamation were based on.

Hansen is typical of a liar trying to hide the data that will prove him to be so. He is hysterically belligerant toward normal scientific skepticism yet claims the skeptics are the unreasonable ones.

Hansen is either a charletan trying to perpetrate one of the biggest hoaxes on humanity, or he is mentaly unstable. Either way he should not be in the position of trust that he currently enjoys.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

There is only one answer to

There is only one answer to the hypothesis that Hansen is either a charlatan or mentally unstable that fits all the facts. That is that he is a liberal democrat.

"The court jesters are

"The court jesters are their jesters, occasionally paid for services, and more substantively supported by the captains' disinformation campaigns."

 

That coming from someone who pocketed a quarter million dollars from the Heinz Foundation.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/01/30/hansen-revisited/

 

 

You mean he is accepting

You mean he is accepting money from "Big Ketchup". I am shocked. He is just a tool of the condiment companies.

Safe Science

By keeping his methods, algorithms, and data fabrication (err I mean adjustments) secret, all he is doing is practicing "Safe Science."  He wears condiments when he does this so I guess this indicates he 'relishes' his job as Ketchup company stooge.

Projection, he accuses of

Projection, he accuses of what he is guilty in the hope that the finger of accusation is not pointed at him.  He took money from a special interest group whose interest is advanced by his advocacy, therefore everyone else in his mind must also be taking money, therefore his opponents are guilty of taking money from some special interest group whose interest is harmed by the agenda he advocates.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Watching the Weather Channel?

When I tune into the WC, I'm starting to see more nuggets of global warming alarmism appear between the eights. They've joined the water carrying global warming alarmists, but it could just be motivation to get ratings. It's all a profiteering venture for the left. Al Gore makes money on books, movies, lextures, Moore is with his pharmaceutical stocks and movies, ad nauseam.

Global Warming is real!

Once liberals told me that it is really hot in texas in the summer time. I was convinced lol Maybe I can buy so carbon offsets on Ebay. Save those polar bears.

6 out of 5 liberals have

6 out of 5 liberals have troubles with fractions. One lefty told me that polar bears are going extinct in antarctica. Huh?

The weather channel's chief

The weather channel's chief meterologist is Heidi Cullen the darling of the AGW crowd. She's the one that stated all scientists who deny the existence of AGW should be de-certified. Those aren't nuggets of GW they are whole veins of AGW you are seeing. 

Weather Channel

Those aren't nuggets they are lumps of floating fecal matter.

He's misusing the term

He's misusing the term "usufruct" to justify socialism and the destruction of private property rights, which is the logical "solution" proposed by the globalwarmingists, who are just another flavor of totalitarianism.

Hansen's psychosis has

Hansen's psychosis has achieved Brobdingnagian dimensions. This fellow was caught conspiring with a Stanford perfesser back in '87 conspiring to cook the books, so to speak, on Global Warming---specifically to implicate the human contribution by any way, shape or form his Nibelungs could forge.

My guess is that NASA has had enuf of this grandstanding mountebank sullying their reputation---already close to scientific ridicule for their optimistic refusal to admit Shuttle catastrophic failure rates [they said one in 100,000 while Richard Feynman predicted one in fifty---so far Feynman is not far off].

For those with frontal lobes, Feynman called the spurious stat-cooking Hansen & Co habitually employ as "Cargo Cult Science," and the jumped-up weathermen comprising the UN ICRC Commission are a bunch of Trobriand Islanders dancing in the surf.

Darned if You Do, Darned if You Don't

...and if NASA fires James Hansen, the AGW proponents will howl that The Bush Administration is trying to quash scientific research; no matter how dubious.

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Correct, even though Hansen's work seems to be remarkably free of science and accuracy.

This usufruct crap also

This usufruct crap also reminds me of the recent Rove article by PJ Gladnick. 

". . .this dank, sweaty, adipose embodiment of a sad political caricature. . ."

The author realizes that simply calling someone "fat" is sort of shallow and he wants to sound really smart.  

So he flips on his synonym-checker (LOL), and comes up with "adipose", a term strictly limited to medical/surgical use that is not only clunky as hell, but fails to contextually link up with the rest of his nutty; pseudo-intellectual spiel. 

These guys just don't realize when their stupidity is showing.

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

Out of the Closet.....he's invested in GW

His comments show he is responding as an Activist, not a Scientist.  He sounds more like a Journalist, than a Scientist, and based upon his credibility as a Scientist, he should now change Careers so he can push GW full time.......as a Journalist.

This is a case of......better Quit your Day Job.....!     

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Umm, he would be no

Umm, he would be no journalist either, what you describe is a propagandist.  A journalist reports the news with all the known facts without an agenda and reveals the different points of view.  A propagandist reports the news with only the selected facts according to the agenda with only one acceptable (PC) point of view. 

Hansen is a Socialist, as his misinterpretation of the term basically says private property can not be inherited but turned over to society by rewriting the rules or in the Dems favorite means having a judge twist the law to fit the agenda. 

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Selective application...

..private property can not be inherited but turned over to society..

Of course, that wouldn't apply to democRATS like Ted Kennedy.

McIntyre responce

Um, but doesn't Constitutional Law Foundation agree with Hansen?

Noel, you might disagree with Hansen's interpretation of what Jefferson meant by "usufruct", and you might ignore that dictionary definitions also agree with Hansen, but how could you possibly overlook or ignore that the Constitutional Law Foundation, who you link to and quote to support your position, in fact refers to Jefferson, other Founding Founders and others to establish that these men had a pervasive concern for future generations? http://www.conlaw.org/Intergenerational-II.htm. The Constitutional Law Foundation, after all, is a group that “Seeks to advance environmental law issues, intergenerational ethics, and the concern for posterity stated in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution [and] provides articles and documents related to the U.S. Constitution and environmental protection.”  You have done a service to your careful readers by steering them to this group! 

A little research may show you that Jefferson was writing to Madison in the context of the French Revolution.  His principle point appears to argue that each generation has the right to sweep aside burdensome laws and practices inherited from past generations, and used the principle that “the earth belongs in usufruct to the living” as a starting point.  http://www.vqronline.org/articles/1976/summer/peterson-mrjeffersons-sovereignty/.

Since this principle literally means that the living are entitled to the “use and fruit” of property, while passing it on undamaged to the future, it can easily be interpreted more broadly to apply to the earth as both Hansen and The Constitutional Law Foundation, whom you cite with approval, do. 

In short, it appears that YOU do not know your Constitutional law, history or dictionary (much less how to use the Web to support you), and one suspects that maybe Hansen might also know the science better than you.

No doubt you are also aware that this quote by Jefferson has deep Biblical roots that speak to us even today on environmental matters.  See, for example, The National Religious Partnership for the Environment, which brings together American Catholics, Jews, Eastern Orthodox, mainline Protestants and Evangelicals. http://www.nrpe.org/statements/index.html

They cite to statements by relihious leaders, including Pope John Paul II, who said: “When the ecological crisis is set within the broader context of the search for peace within society, we can understand better the importance of giving attention to what the earth and its atmosphere are telling us: namely, that there is an order in the universe which must be respected, and that the human person, endowed with the capability of choosing freely, has a grave responsibility to preserve this order for the well-being of future generations.”  You might find Hansen’s moralizing to be unfounded or repugnant, but I would defy you to lightly mock the view that yes, we do have an obligation to our children.

Sincerely,

TT 

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool."
Richard Feynman

 it can easily be

 it can easily be interpreted more broadly to apply to the earth as both Hansen and The Constitutional Law Foundation, whom you cite with approval, do. 

You just destroyed your own argument.  The point is this concept has NEVER been used in this manner before.  The point is as you so unwittingly exposed the liberal penchant for claiming the Constitution is a "living document" which any judge can manipulate to mean anything they want via "can easily be interpreted more broadly to apply".   You liberals seem to think that words can be twisted to mean anything as it suits your agenda. 

The Founders created a process to amend the Constitution by the PEOPLE, the majority, if they wish to do so.  What you and other liberals advocate is subverting the Constitution by judicial fiat.  Every judge who takes office takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, any attempt to subvert the process is a direct betrayal of the Constitution and the PEOPLE for whom it was created to guarantee their CONSENT to be governed according to their WILL.  That is why we have a legislature.  It is you who doesn't understand the basic premise of our Republic form of government.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Try responding to what I wrote, and not some bogeyman in your

head.  Try reading Jefferson yourself, or the essay I linked to if that's too hard. 

I am not a liberal, and am not arguing that Jefferson's view (or Hansen's) is the right one; I'm just saying that Hansen hasn't really taken any undue liberties in interpreting Jefferson.

Actually, your comments reveal a shocking lack of understanding of Jefferson.  Maybe it's YOU who doesn't understand what the Founders were thinking when they constituted our government, or how far we've come from it.

Here, try this, from an essay at the most well-known libertarian site:

"For the author of the Declaration, as we have seen, the generations stand facing one another as do whole nations, or individuals in the state of nature. Therefore, their relations are regulated by the law of nature. Hence, the duty of a generation is to leave land enough and as good for the following generations. This is evidently an extension of the [Lockean] proviso, because the properties are the same: one's own successors do not enjoy a generic right to unexplored lands, but to the specific property already owned by their parents. Just as the new generations have the right to obtain property that is not burdened with debts, so also the "others," those who do not participate in that specific appropriation, have exactly the same right to enjoy land "enough and as good," in the Lockean state of nature. By the same token, property cannot be exploited and destroyed, jeopardizing the future of the coming generations. Waste is not countenanced by t