You can't possibly make this up: the producer of the 9/11 truther film "Loose Change" was arrested Monday for - wait for it! - deserting the Army.
As reported Wednesday by the Daily Star (h/t Hot Air, emphasis added):
Korey Rowe, 24, a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq, was picked up by deputies at about 10:45 p.m. Monday, Otsego County Sheriff Richard Devlin Jr. said.
Rowe, along with Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas, are members of Louder Than Words, a production company that is working on a third edition of the movie "Loose Change," which contends the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
In his bio at the film's website, Rowe referenced his military service, but not that he was allegedly never officially discharged (emphasis added):
At 18 for no apparent reason I joined the Army. I guess for a way out of my home town. Joined and not even six months later I found my self in a fox hole in Kandahar, Afghanistan (January 14th 2002 to July 15th 2002).
Served six months there before returning stateside for a hellish 7 month full out training cycle before being shipped back across the Atlantic to Kuwait were [sic] we staged for a nice long year in Iraq (February 28th, 2003 to January 16th, 2004).
I am out of the Army now, and have dove straight into the production of Dylan's documentary Loose Change.
No mention of deserting the military in a lengthy interview with Smith magazine, either, even though several questions involved his Army service. Of course, that's not something you advertise.
However, given the publicity of his film, one has to wonder why he wasn't picked up sooner?
On the other hand, according to the Star, the military doesn't focus a lot of attention on finding deserters:
Desertion rates have been rising since 2004, but the Army does little to seek out deserters and instead relies on a database that can be cross-checked by local law-enforcement agencies during encounters such as traffic stops, the report states.
Regardless, it seems given Rowe's activism concerning 9/11 being an inside job, maybe the Army should have done more to apprehend him sooner.
Just a thought.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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Desertion creds
July 25, 2007 - 13:57 ET by GalvanicIronically, being an Army deserter probably elevates his standing within the anti-war crowd, and his prosecution will assure him of martyrdom.
Sad but true, next thing
July 25, 2007 - 14:02 ET by rob6677Sad but true, next thing you know "Mooron" will hire him for his next fake documentary. I wonder if this guy received any purple hearts, maybe he is planning for a future presidential run!
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana!" Groucho
9/11 was so an Inside Job
July 26, 2007 - 11:40 ET by PoparfHave any of you looked at the facts of 9/11?
Why did Larry Silverstein admit to ordering to "Pull" Building 7?
Read and Learn:
http://www.911sharet...
Watch and Learn:
http://www.youtube.c...
http://www.youtube.c...
we all know it was a bush
July 26, 2007 - 11:46 ET by TruthMongerwe all know it was a bush re-election strategy - what's your point? we helped with the planning dude!
All of these posts are "secret code" ya know
I am so sick of dumb cluck
July 26, 2007 - 11:48 ET by Jack BauerI am so sick of dumb cluck 'tards like you acting as willing tools for the Chimpy McBushitlerCheney Hallibrurton Nazi junta.
WAKE UP DUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE FRACKIN' knows that the Twin Towers were brought down by CLOAKED ALIEN FIGHTERSHIPS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE CLOAKED ALIENS IN the Pentagon.
Why do you come on this site and spout the Chimpy McBushitlerCheney Hallibrurton Nazi Goebbles talking points designed to deflect investigation into the millennium old alien invasion.
Who do you think runs YouTube? That's right 'tard.
now now, Jack... I've
July 26, 2007 - 11:50 ET by TruthMongernow now, Jack...
I've come to realize that...IT'S TRUE!!!!
If you only new the power of the "9/11 was an inside job" side...
Join me - and we will rule the galaxy as FATHER AND SON!!!!
TM -- once you see the
July 26, 2007 - 11:54 ET by Jack BauerTM -- once you see the truth, you have to speak out.
I first became aware of the truth after watching an excellent fictionalized documentary called "THEY LIVE"
Check it out. You'll be shocked. WHISPER... THEY ARE EVERYWHERE MAN.
jack - I see you are "one
July 26, 2007 - 11:57 ET by TruthMongerjack - I see you are "one of them" now:(...
but ok I'll watch it! hat tip to ya
TM -- I'm very
July 26, 2007 - 12:00 ET by Jack BauerTM -- I'm very fickle.
Could be a different conspiracy next week. That's the beauty of conspiracies, like manmade global warming, they offer a Grand Unified Theory of Everything.
Sure beats thinking!!!
Zzz...this has all been
July 26, 2007 - 11:52 ET by balboaZzz...this has all been debunked so many times it's ridiculous. You'd have a better chance of convincing me Montgomery Burns brought down the towers than the U.S. Government.
You're absolutely correct.
July 25, 2007 - 14:50 ET by Del DolemonteYou're absolutely correct. Hawaii's Lt. Eren Wataba, who refused to be deployed to Iraq and is now undergoing courts martial, is an absolute messiah to the leftist looney toons over at "Truthout.org"
He probably will claim he is
July 25, 2007 - 17:20 ET by ahusserHe probably will claim he is being "targeted" by the Bush Administration because of his beliefs and his "heroic" stance in espousing the "truth" about 911. Also I recall the left labelling the draft resisters who fled to Canada as "heroes" during the Vietnam War. em>"A mind is a terrible thing." - A comic I forgot the name of.
Well...in his possible defense...
July 25, 2007 - 13:58 ET by c5thenCould it be possible that his enlistment term expired and he simply assumed that since he never re-enlisted that he was "out"? Perhaps he never read the stop-loss memo and realized that you have to be officially discharged not just take a bus home the day after your original term expires?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic
C5
July 25, 2007 - 14:13 ET by Noel SheppardC5,
Very possible. And that's why I made it a point to say "allegedly," for this could all be an innocent mistake either on his part or the Army's. After all, maybe their bookkeeping on this matter is errant, and he was in fact discharged.
As you know, on this side of the aisle, we really do believe that people are innocent until proven guilty. :-) ns
Not as possible nor probable
July 25, 2007 - 14:22 ET by Lame CherryWith the mother henning the army and marines do in having specific soldiers assigned to keep people in with long talks and handing out cards, it is really difficult to believe that this deserter had not talked to them or was so alone in a unit of 20 people and a CO whose job it is constantly discussing what they are going to do in the real world that someone didn't mention the protocols.
Soldiers are quite educated on how to not get into trouble and they know exactly how to get out of the service as it is the constant discussion.
Yes this is possible he was the one Darwin liberal who never talked to anyone, never read anything and never had a re up discuss plans with him, but that kind of ignorance is about as probable as being hit by meteor. Soldiers do not live on a desert isle.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
This story makes me wonder.
July 25, 2007 - 14:40 ET by danboThis story makes me wonder. Are we evolving as a species? Or devolving?
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein
Lame Cherry wrote:
July 25, 2007 - 15:24 ET by GalvanicLame Cherry wrote: "Soldiers are quite educated on how to not get into trouble and they know exactly how to get out of the service as it is the constant discussion."
I totally agree with you, LC. It's not like a soldier counts down his days (and we all did) and then just decides he doesn't have to show up for Army work one day because his enlistment is up.
In addition to career counseling about re-upping, his command would be talking to him almost daily regarding preparation for separation from active service --- filling out paperwork, setting up transportation to home of record or elsewhere, shipment of household goods, turning in equipment/gear, etc. Every servicemember knows that he/she must have a signed DD-214 when he/she leaves active duty, and the only way one gets it is outprocessing. Without a DD-214, you ain't done.
BDS in five, four, three....
July 25, 2007 - 14:00 ET by Red DwarfI can't wait for the "Troofers" to blog about how Bu-Ro-Che was behind this.
THEY'VE DONE IT AGAIN!! THE FACISTS ARE IN CONTROL!! OMG9-11WFT!!!
Was the Government
July 25, 2007 - 14:19 ET by mattmWas the Government responsible for Flight 93 also? If so, then it must be to the extent that, rather than providing a pretense for war, it was to further the radical muslim cause...that is if the subject of this article is any indicator.
My rank out ranks Your Army
July 25, 2007 - 14:15 ET by Lame CherryMr. Sheppard, another wonderful discovery by you.
It does though touch upon something of a psychopathy though with these kooks on the left. If you remember John Kerry was having soul fits all his life. He loathed the military in only joining in as JFK did and he wanted to be the next JFK. Next in it, he went out of his way to get hero medals which his superiors rejected like a scratch for a 'shell frament' and the infamous self inflicted wound of his tossing a grenade in a rice pile which then hit his butt.
Kerry would then return home "throwing his medals" away, but finding out later he never threw the "good ones away".
Democrats in 2004 had this same discomfort in wanting anyone to beat Bush, but loathing "the butcher" John Kerry as that is what they view all soldiers as being. So I contend it was Democrats who stayed home more in not wanting to vote for him than Republicans turning out for Bush. (Another Rove miscalculation.)
In that you can find all kinds of "Captains" in the left. Especially fake on the New Republic making up stories. I actually backtracked one Captain and found the real guy was an enlisted. His officer title was made up. The delusion of the Kerry grandeur that they too can be John Kennedy or John Wayne tugs at these people's hearts while their heart hates the reality they can not make it as real soldiers.
That is like this deserter. He is simple to understand. He knows he is a coward and betrayed his nation. He can not face that reality like all liberals and look for someone to hate.....how does he tranfer? Oh he finds he can call George Bush the coward and America the betrayer in attacking himself.
Solves all his problems, because if America deserted him first on 9 11 then his desertion later was just balancing the books.
These people are crazy in their psychopathies in how they work things out is pure insanity. Like Kerry this deserter goes public begging to be caught so he can be punished and have some rest for his soul.
A little back history........Bill Clinton wasn't that sloppy in attacking women. He wanted to be caught on numerous levels to be rid of Hillary, but he couldn't abandon her and Chelsea as he and his mother were abandoned. He had to force her to do it....which she wouldn't because she was so weak natured and power hungry she was hanging on for life.
They are all the same.....can go through all the Democrats and find the same problems and these are the people telling America it is wrong and they have the answers to fix it.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
during WWII the federal
July 25, 2007 - 14:18 ET by PKduring WWII the federal govt paid a $50 bounty for deserters. this was canceled in about 1955.
during Nam they didn't pay much attention to deserters.
if the police brought one in (expecting the bounty) the various services applied interesting punishments.
i saw the air force courtmartial a guy and give him a bad conduct discharge in 45 minutes.
on the other end of the scale the marines put a fellow in the Yokosaka Marine Brig (a notorious hell hole) while they expanded the stockade in Leavenworth Kansas for a more lengthy stay. (could be he's still there)
in actuality most of the noise about deserters being punished was made by lawyers and activist outfits trying to build reputations for political manuevers of the moment.
C
Funny how this site only
July 25, 2007 - 14:37 ET by ThoughtPoliceFunny how this site only covers 9/11 news when its something negative. Where is the coverage on Dr. Jones' discovery of the "fingerprint" for thermate in steel samples. Where is the coverage on the discovery of iron rich spheres in the dust samples. What about pilotsfor911truth.org and their complete raping of the Gov'ts story vs. what the black box actually shows at the pentagon (flight 93 is up next, and from what they say, it's a lie as well).
But I digress...we wouldn't want anyone thinking outside the [black] box :).
As for Korey Rowe, I only have respect for him. Anyone trying to bring out 9/11 truth is a hero, not a deserter. You will have a different opinion about him one day, oh, say when Loose Change: Final Cut comes out and exposes 9/11 for what it truly is. That will be the all time highest grossing documentary ever..and you can quote me on that.
http://prisonplanet....
"As for Korey Rowe, I only
July 25, 2007 - 14:47 ET by MightyMouth"As for Korey Rowe, I only have respect for him. Anyone trying to bring out 9/11 truth is a hero, not a deserter. "
Typical liberal thought process, doesn't matter that he's breaking the law as long as he was doing what he believes. The conclusion: he's a hero not a deserter!
Folks we can't let people who think like this run this country!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Can I have some of what
July 25, 2007 - 14:47 ET by Del DolemonteCan I have some of what you've been drinking? Or smoking?
Conspiracy theories
July 25, 2007 - 14:49 ET by SouthJersey1953You forgot to mention Katrina...
No RINOs in '08 - Thompson/Hunter would be a good ticket; Thompson/Steele would be a great ticket
lol Hi, Rosie. Don't
July 25, 2007 - 22:54 ET by dahliatraverslol
Hi, Rosie. Don't forget, fire doesn't melt steel.
The bounty was later
July 29, 2007 - 03:47 ET by fastfoodThe bounty was later reinstated at $25. Law enforcement officers and agencies cannot claim rewards/bounties. They are, after all doing their job.
Doesn't really matter that they don't actively pursue the non-violent one's, anyway as they are bound to cross the wrong path eventually. And when they do, as Korey did, I bet they feel really stupid.
As for "deserters being punished" Tough shhhhtuff. They new desertion was dangerous when they did it!
If it ain't broke, why screw it up.
Of course, if Loose Derange
July 25, 2007 - 14:35 ET by Jack BauerOf course, if Loose Derange even tangentally touched on reality, this joker will never been seen again as Chimpy McBushilter would personally have him disappeared into the the Gulag Cheneypeligo
But let's just nail this down for a second.
This jerkwad decided at 18 (for reasons he admits are beyond his capacity to explain) to join the military.
D'uh must have been Bush mindcontrol rays beamed from the TV, because what else could explain it?
During that time, this brainbox suddenly comes to understand that despite live coverage of actual fully laden Jumbos flying into actual Twin Towers, that this did not, in fact, happen.
Mmm, where did he get the time to come up with that?
By his own admission between deserting aged 21 (with the mental capacity of a 10 year old by the sound of it) and instantly getting a job producing the shite known as "Loose Change" he was kept quite busy.
Jack
July 25, 2007 - 14:41 ET by Noel SheppardJack,
That's actually a fabulous point. Of course, on the other hand, had he been apprehended sooner, maybe this would have added to the conspiracy myth? ns
ns -- it's very amusing
July 25, 2007 - 14:54 ET by Jack Bauerns -- it's very amusing when you read the actual background of these odd balls.
Sure, the truths-out-to-lunch bowel movement has as one of its "heroes" a guy who can't even explain why he joined up one day.
I think he has many unresolved mommy and daddy issues. And now the "daddy" in his life is George Bush.
We need to be laughing more at these children, and not give them the attention they so desperately crave.
Just going from memory
July 25, 2007 - 14:46 ET by nixonJust going from memory here. But,if He'd have looked at the expiration date on His I.D. card He might have gotten an idea of His discharge date ! And , if He never went through outproceesing He might have figured out that He had missed something .( DD214 for example )
In His defense , I'm sure He never knew anyone on a "short calendar" :)that got a dicharge :)
How much energy has been
July 25, 2007 - 14:52 ET by contraryHow much energy has been wasted on conspriracy theories, and how much damage to public opinion? In this day and age where politicians can be swayed by public opinion so easily, its no wonder our foreign policy is suffering. I wish I could just laugh the Bermas' and Avery's off, but they have the power with the Internet to touch many people. Their ideas and arguments deserved to be rebutted at every chance.
Contrary, you are 100%
July 25, 2007 - 15:28 ET by ThoughtPoliceContrary, you are 100% correct. Either they are right, or they are wrong. Please, rebut pilotsfor911truth and their "theory" that AA77 did not hit the pentagon. You can have all the resources that are at their disposal (mainly the black box flight data recorder).
I am sure they would LOVE to be proven wrong as NO gov't entity (NIST, FBI, FAA, etc.) Has even tried to rebut their claims. You would be hailed as a true patriot for exposing the LIES of the 9/11 truth movement!
Let us know how that goes, ok?
REBUTTALS
July 25, 2007 - 15:31 ET by PawpawNHave not all the theories been rebutted! Have not you failed to provide any proof? Have not you forgotten to take your meds?
Have not you forgotten how
July 25, 2007 - 15:38 ET by ThoughtPoliceHave not you forgotten how to speak properly??
No evidence? Have you been living in a cave with Osama "i've been on Dialysis for 7 years and am still alive" Bin Laden.
Your statements alone prove you really are a "pawn." I hate wasting my time with people like you who believe every little thing you are told. Maybe you will listen to your friend Michelle Malkin...don't let her fool you, she knows the truth about 9/11 as well
http://www.prisonpla...
TP: I was worried about
July 25, 2007 - 15:41 ET by Airforce_5_OTP: I was worried about you dude. I thought they had caught up with you!! Thank God you are safe and not in jail!!!!!!
I feel better now all, you can call off the search.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
TP, there you go again. OBL
July 25, 2007 - 15:46 ET by bassndudeTP, there you go again. OBL has never made a public statement about having kideny problems, not dialysis. Your referances are bogus. Prisonplanet? Come on now, please. Only an idiot would belive anything on that site.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bassndude, I can't believe
July 25, 2007 - 16:23 ET by ThoughtPoliceBassndude, I can't believe you are even still trying to dispute what I say. You are so blatantly wrong on all of your arugments that I'm just gonna have to stop replying to your ignornace and naivity.
http://edition.cnn.c...
PLEASE inform yourself BEFORE you post...not only do you make this entire site look bad, but you make yourself look like a complete JACKASS
Ah, I believe you are one
July 25, 2007 - 16:55 ET by Roger the ShrubberAh, I believe you are one of the 25% of Americans Stan and Kyle refer to as being retarded.
How's the weather down in Texas, Fateswebb?
"I hate wasting my time
July 25, 2007 - 19:12 ET by ckc1227"I hate wasting my time with people like you who believe every little thing you are told."
No you don't, you love it because of the multiple orgasms you experience with every nonsense-filled post you make. I hope you at least aim away from your keyboard. Talk about a sticky situation...
Sorry for the vulgarity of my post, NBers, but people like "clueless police" really tick me off. I'm not one for violence, but some folks really need the stupid beat out of them.
ckc -- dude, it's a fat
July 25, 2007 - 19:16 ET by Jack Bauerckc -- dude, it's a fat comic book guy alone in a basement hooked up to the internet.
They'll find him dead one day, half-eaten by his only companions, a dozen stray cats.
TP, pilots have no access
July 25, 2007 - 15:37 ET by bassndudeTP, pilots have no access to the FDC's data. So any pilot that sayes he has access to the data is either a lier, OR he is not a pilot, but an investigator. And being employed by the FAA, I can tell you it has been addressed by us, and you are doing nothing but spreading lies and misinformation.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Freedom of Information act
July 25, 2007 - 15:44 ET by ThoughtPoliceFreedom of Information act is all I have to say. They not only received the animation that the NTSB created (that does not show AA77 hitting the pentagon) as well as the raw data files that went into making the animation. So please, save your ignorance for another topic.
Here is a 1 minute youtube video that debunks the whole gov't story. Please feel free to watch unless you want your precious safety bubble shattered into 1000 pieces..
http://www.youtube.c...
Freedom of Information act?
July 25, 2007 - 15:49 ET by bassndudeFreedom of Information act? Try again. Look for the exempts. Try reading the act. The only information that is released from the FDR's is of voice recordings. And only then if it has been determined that it will not cause any harm and if the family of the recorded agrees.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Youtube ? Thats your
July 25, 2007 - 15:51 ET by bassndudeYoutube ? Thats your comfirmation source? LOL, your looney toons boy. Like noone can post there unless its true.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
"We have determined based on
July 25, 2007 - 16:19 ET by ThoughtPolice"We have determined based on the Flight Data Recorder
information that has been analyzed thus far provided by the NTSB, that
it is impossible for this aircraft to have struck down the light poles.
We have an animation of
the entire flight provided by the NTSB. The animation covers the whole
flight from taxi out at Dulles... to the impact at the Pentagon in real
time." - http://pilotsfor911t...
LOL, maybe your wrong. Perhaps you will want to watch the youtube video. It's a product of the NTSB, so your probably not too far off on your assertion.
Like I said, your sources
July 25, 2007 - 17:33 ET by bassndudeLike I said, your sources are bogus.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
The moon is made of
July 25, 2007 - 17:33 ET by contraryThe moon is made of cheese!
http://www.planetfusion.co.uk/~pignut/cheese.html
Let's see you disprove that! Of course the government knew about this and that was the whole point of the Apollo moon launches. Just think of all the power the Bushies will have. I mean, the data is there, you just have to find it.
Just as I thought, no one
July 25, 2007 - 18:00 ET by contraryJust as I thought, no one can dispute the truth! Since the government has not come forth with the evidence, then the moon must be made of cheese. Any contrary opinions are made by retards and those who watch Fox News. They are rehashing old questions that distract from the truth. Long live the cheesers who speak truth to power.
Supporting your position
July 25, 2007 - 18:02 ET by dagdaThank God this is out in the open. I have long thought the moon was made of cheese, but thought I was the only one. I felt as though I was alone in the wilderness. It is good to know the science is settled on this matter.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
ThoughtPolice - The Exchequer of Truth
July 25, 2007 - 18:09 ET by Free StinkerAnd don't forget,
ThoughtPolice is the same dude who wasn't (still isn't?) aware that gas fumes are flamable/explosive.
Just who we need lecturing us on how things really are . . .
Free
July 25, 2007 - 18:17 ET by botgi had forgotten that exchange, thanks for reminding me i enjoyed the laugh
Support our Troops
We have a winner for the
July 25, 2007 - 18:03 ET by Free StinkerWe have a winner for the 1st annual "LibertyorMeds act-a-like contest" ;-)
Grommet
July 25, 2007 - 18:09 ET by botgwe must get some 'cheeese'
Support our Troops
exactly...
July 25, 2007 - 18:13 ET by LionKingSince the moon is made of cheese, all of the moon-landings had to be "staged" in the Arizona desert.
First of all, one of my
July 25, 2007 - 17:34 ET by Del DolemonteFirst of all, one of my cousins, a civilian research scientist for the US Navy, was working almost directly next to the Pentagon on 9/11, and saw the AA plane hit it. She and her colleagues were immediately deployed to set up air-sampling equipment on-site, and she saw numerous pieces of the aircraft all over the place. As she graduated with honors from Dartmouth and is married to a JAG, I would tend to believe her account.
As for "pilotsfor 9/11 truth", I went to their website, and immediately found this correction. Anytime you lead off your web page by admitting something is wrong, you're not off to a great start:
06/23/07
Please be advised when reviewing the article entitled
http://news.yahoo.co...
"New Study From
Pilots For 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 Hit The Pentagon" the following.
These (relatively minor) points are made in the interest of historical
accuracy. Pilots for 9/11 Truth did not write it and some corrections need to
be stated. Click here for more information. Thank you.
http://pilotsfor911t...
I have no doubt your cousin
July 25, 2007 - 17:48 ET by ThoughtPoliceI have no doubt your cousin saw something, however, she did not see AA77 hit the Pentagon. She may have seen a fly-over (AA77 flies above Pentagon, missile or military plane strikes building). To debunk this the Gov't SIMPLY needs to show us one of the multitude of vidoes that would have caught the incident on tape (how about a clear shot from the Highway cameras??)
Uh, did you actually READ the corrections, or just post that link HOPING that it would say "Wait, nevermind, we were wrong."
HAHA what a dope...get back to watching Fox News and stop trying to debate what you can't!
Just how old are you? Like
July 25, 2007 - 17:51 ET by bassndudeJust how old are you? Like 5 or something like that? I always hesitate to call someone stupid, but you border on moronic insanity.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Just how old are you? Like
July 25, 2007 - 18:07 ET by ThoughtPoliceJust how old are you? Like 5 or something like that?
Like, totally, dude! Like, why don't you refute the evidence and stop calling me names? You can't? Oh ok...then, like go away...
Even if he is 5, I'll bet
July 25, 2007 - 18:13 ET by Free StinkerEven if he is 5, I'll bet he knows that gas fumes are flamable.
(Unlike you)
Let's see, who should I
July 25, 2007 - 18:40 ET by Del DolemonteLet's see, who should I believe-a dweeb typing from his basement or someone who was actually there? Insulting me won't work. Get back under your bridge.
PS, here's some debunking of the BS that the AA plane didn't hit the Pentagon. It includes a picture of a piece of the plane debris with the American Airlines livery still visible.
http://www.kolumbus....
wow. you really believe
July 26, 2007 - 17:21 ET by ThoughtPolicewow. you really believe that 99% of the plane was incinerated yet a few small pieces of debris were left unscathed (it looks like someone took some shears and cut it up) on the lawn? You don't find it funny that there are no dead bodies or luggage laying around? surely there would be bodies inside the building, or remains of luggage??
FYI, you used a 9/11 truth site in case you weren't aware. Not only that, but they are using outdated information. I'm not sure if they know, but the supposed flight path that AA77 took is incorrect. Again, please watch the youtube video provided and you will understand.
Hey dope, where was the
July 26, 2007 - 17:25 ET by MightyMouthHey dope, where was the "Black Box" found? You know they don't make the whole plane out of that same material, right?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Next?
July 26, 2007 - 17:42 ET by Del DolemonteHere's some eyewitness accounts (with links) as well as pictures of airplane debris found inside the Pentagon. By the way, apparently one of the engines ricocheted out of the building and disintegrated.
http://www.whatreall...
Next?
Bass
July 25, 2007 - 18:04 ET by botgYou got a problem with you-tube science?
Support our Troops
And this "Flight Data
July 26, 2007 - 13:02 ET by MightyMouthAnd this "Flight Data Recorder" was found where? IN the rubble of the Pentagon you say? hmmm.
*cue Twilight Zone music*
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
There is flight data
July 26, 2007 - 17:24 ET by ThoughtPoliceThere is flight data recorder from "something." If you watch the animation provided by the NTSB, it follows a different path than the "official" path as provided by the 9/11 commission report.
This path would not have struck down the light poles AND would have been too high to have hit the pentagon..hmm..
Please watch the provided youtube clip for the evidence. It's only a minute. Surely you'll want to take 1 minute to find out that 9/11 was an inside job, right?
TP, I looked at it. So
July 26, 2007 - 17:33 ET by MightyMouthTP, I looked at it. So what? A red line doesn't match up with a simulation of the cockpit. You are missing the elephant in the room here. The Black box was found in the Pentagon rubble. The black box was part of the plane, therefore: the plane (& black box) crashed into the Pentagon. So simple a caveman could see it.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
So what? So how were the
July 26, 2007 - 22:05 ET by ThoughtPoliceSo what? So how were the light poles knocked down? The path is WAY north or the official version. Not only that, it is WAY too high to have even hit the building. The animation is provided by the NTSB...so either they are wrong (and not correcting the mistake) OR they are right and 9/11 was an inside job.
Hmm, so I guess you believe that no one has ever planted evidence at a crime scene before? Lol...maybe you can vindicate Mark Fuhrman??
Big difference thought police
July 26, 2007 - 22:27 ET by dagdaCouple of things here.
1) there is a big difference between planting a bloody glove and planting an airliner.
2) There are a lot of people who think that Fuhrman did not plant the glove.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
1.) Holy crap....your
July 27, 2007 - 10:41 ET by ThoughtPolice1.) Holy crap....your astute observations are mind boggling!! It's funny how the "airliner" is nothing more than a few parts from an unidentified craft...funny how there are no more than 1 piece per part (1 landing gear, 1 wheel, 1 engine...didn't they know that there at least 2 of all of those things!!).
2.) My point exactly
Paw is correct below. The
July 25, 2007 - 15:46 ET by contraryPaw is correct below. The theories have been challenged (see Popular Mechanics) but the propaganda arm of the Truthers is doing a better job of distributing their views. Eventually, if you say it enough, their "truth" becomes the orthodox.
"I am sure they would LOVE to be proven wrong as NO gov't entity (NIST, FBI, FAA, etc.) Has even tried to rebut their claims."
Here is why I agree with you (partially). The Truthers would NOT love to be proven wrong, but they do love someone engaging them. It provides an chance for spouting off their views. And yes, the various government agencies have not agressively made their case to dispute their claims. A two-edged sword if you will: Disprove their theories and give them the attention they are looking for, Or ignore them in hopes their ideas eventually die out.
"Let us know how that goes, ok?"
I don't know why I would login here to give you updates to anything I might do.
One Question
July 25, 2007 - 17:02 ET by Prester JohnWhere is Barbara Olson, wife of Ted Olson and a passenger on the plane that hit the Pentagon?
She and the rest of the
July 25, 2007 - 17:38 ET by Del DolemonteShe and the rest of the people on the plane are currently being held under guard of Halliburton security agents in a secret bunker in Dick Cheney's back yard.
What I'd like to know is, what happened to the plane itself?
"What I'd like to know is,
July 25, 2007 - 18:47 ET by ckc1227"What I'd like to know is, what happened to the plane itself?"
Santa Claus uses the remains for spare parts on his sleigh.
Well she was either killed
July 25, 2007 - 17:44 ET by ThoughtPoliceWell she was either killed or she was in on it. I really don't know. Those type of "well, if the plane didn't hit, then where is the plane?!?!?!" questions are so dumb with no thought put into them, I can't believe people are still asking such crap!
Either AA77 hit the Pentagon, or it didn't . If it didn't I have NO idea where it is or if its still in it's true form. Where are the remains of AA77, UA93, or the other two planes involved on 9/11??? I mean, surely there would be some type of reconstruction like there was with TWA flight 800, right???
What was left of them was
July 25, 2007 - 17:48 ET by bassndudeWhat was left of them was reassembled in hangers in Virgina, at the AFB.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!