Sparks flew on MSNBC’s AM Joy Sunday as host Joy Reid shouted down Amy Kremer, former Chair of Tea Party Express, for daring to mention there are roughly 30,000 missing e-mails from Hillary Clinton’s personal server. “You just invented it an entire thing,” Reid shouted, “There’s no 33,000 e-mails that are going to harm our national security.” From there Reid refused to let Kremer speak anymore. And when Kremer asked to finish her point, “Not if you’re going to invent things,” Reid reprimanded her.
The segment started off with a discussion about how Donald Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s missing e-mails. Reid claimed that Trump wanted them to hack her current e-mail account, but Kremer noted the request was to “find the e-mails.” A reference to the roughly 30,000 e-mails not turned over to the FBI. “That’s how they found them. They found them by hacking,” Reid shot back snarkily.
Kremer reminded Reid that it is not known who hacked Hillary’s private server. It is not definitively known if it was hacked at all, but FBI Director James Comey said in his press conference that, “Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.” But Comey never indicated who those said “actors” could be.
But that didn’t stop Reid from misleading her viewers. “Hold on Amy. The U.S. Intelligence services have said — to a high degree of certainty — that they do believe it is the Russians,” she argued. Giving Reid the benefit of the doubt, she could be get the hacking of Hillary’s server confused with the hacking of the Democratic National Committee, who officials say was hacked by the Russians. Or Reid might be purposely conflating to two.
It was pointed out by Kremer that it would be almost impossible to hack into Clinton’s server now, because it was either offline or behind FBI protections. She even joked that Putin would have to get a DeLorean up to 88 MPH to be able to get at the server. She let her real concerns about the e-mails known, “What scares me is the fact that the e-mails are out there somewhere, probably, and that we could have a president that could be blackmailed over them. That is what concerns me.”
Reid could not belief her ears:
REID: Nope, hold on. You can't just invent things! You can’t just invent things.
KREMER: I'm not inventing anything!
REID: You just invented it an entire thing! The FBI has already come out with a report on Hillary Clinton e-mails and what you just said is invented thing!
KREMER: What?
REID: There’s no 33,000 e-mails that are going to harm our national security. You know that there was an entire year and half investigation!
From there the show devolved into chaos as Reid shouted down Kremer whenever she spoke. “No, ma’am! No, Ma’am! You cannot invent things. You cannot say things — You’re putting out incredibly inflammatory information.”
No matter how “utterly bored” Reid may be with it, FBI’s Director Comey’s statements prove Clinton lied to the public about her e-mail procedures. Comey also said they were only able to obtain roughly half of, “the reportedly more than 60,000 total e-mails remaining on Secretary Clinton’s personal system in 2014.”
Transcript below:
MSNBC
AM Joy
July 31, 2016
11:18:06 AM EasternJOY REID: And Amy, you know, to come to you on this, the stuff about Russia, you know, encouraging-- saying “Russia, if you hear me, hack into Hillary Clinton e-mails and find some more stuff.”
AMY KREMER: That’s not what he said, Joy! He did not say hack into her e-mails. He said, find the e-mails.
REID: That’s how they found them. They found them by hacking.
KREMER: Well, you don’t know who found them. They haven’t verified who found them.
REID: Well, our US intelligence — hold on Amy. The U.S. Intelligence services have said— to a high degree of certainty — that they do believe it is the Russians.
…
Amy, that’s never happened, you know. People who have spent lifetimes in the military and intelligence services, their jaws dropped. Whether they were Republicans or Democrats, for an American presidential candidate to say, Russia, if you are listening, essentially hack my political opponent, hack into her e-mails. It is unprecedented. It doesn't bother you at all?
KREMER: The servers are no longer hooked up and working. I mean If they are, they are with the FBI. And people know that they are not available to hack any more. I mean, it’s like Donald Trump saying, “oh, I hope Putin goes and gets in a 1985 DeLorean and goes and finds those 33,000 e-mails.” I mean it’s absolutely ridiculous.
REID: It is not like that at all. It’s not like that at all.
KREMER: I'll tell what you scares me. What scares me is the fact that the e-mails are out there somewhere, probably, and that we could have—
REID: What?
KREMER: --a president that could be blackmailed—
REID: What? What? What?
KREMER: --over them. That is what concerns me.
REID: What? Wait, Amy you just invented—
KREMER: It’s a matter of national security.
REID: Nope, hold on. You can't just invent things! You can’t just invent things.
KREMER: I'm not inventing anything!
REID: You just invented it an entire thing! The FBI has already come out with a report on Hillary Clinton e-mails and what you just said is an invented thing!
KREMER: What?
REID: There’s no 33,000 e-mails that are going to harm our national security. You know that there was an entire year and half investigation! We’re not going to relitigate that!
[Crosstalk]
KREMER: Joy let me talk! Let me talk.
REID: Not if you’re going to invent things! Ok? You can say—
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[Crosstalk]
KREMER: I’m not going to invent things.
REID: You just did!
KREMER: But the FBI also said—
REID: No, Amy! You can’t! Nope! No! No, ma’am! No, Ma’am! You cannot invent things.
KREMER: Yes! The FBI also said that she has not turn over — she didn’t over all the e-mails.
REID: No, ma’am! No, Ma’am! You cannot invent things. You cannot say things — You’re putting out incredibly inflammatory information.
KREMER: You don’t know where the e-mails are. You don’t know and neither do I.
REID: Amy. Amy. Amy. Amy.
KREMER: So was can’t speculate on it.
REID: But you just did! But you just did!
KREMER: No! What I’m saying is you—
REID: Ok, I’m going to come to the rest of our panel. Amy! Ma’am, you cannot do that!
