Open Thread: Congresswoman Says Repealing ObamaCare Violates Constitution
Seriously. The congresswoman is the ever-entertaining Texas Democrat Sheila Jackson-Lee. The American Spectator has the story:
Arguing that the Commerce Clause provides the constitutional basis for ObamaCare, Jackson Lee said repealing the law by passing Republicans' H.R. 2 violates both the Fifth Amendment's right to due process and the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause.
“The Fifth Amendment speaks specifically to denying someone their life and liberty without due process," she said in a speech on the House floor moments ago. "That is what H.R. 2 does and I rise in opposition to it. And I rise in opposition because it is important that we preserve lives and we recognize that 40 million-plus are uninsured.
She continued, "Can you tell me what’s more unconstitutional than taking away from the people of America their Fifth Amendment rights, their Fourteenth Amendment rights, and the right to equal protection under the law?”
By Jackson-Lee's logic, of course, any sick person is having his or her rights violated. What is the logical endgame of this sort of logic? Are you seeing it employed elsewhere? Will her constitutional argument have any effect on the repeal effort?
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Thank you Miss Lee! Now,
Submitted by bassndude on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:40am.
Thank you Miss Lee! Now, thanks to you, the Constitution has been completely twisted into an unreadable mess.
Where did you find this moron Texas? Please...someone....tell me...
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Houston area
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:00am.
She represents the Houston area. That's another liberal mecca besides Austin. They still haven't wised up after the mess with Bill White, mayor of Houston.(they elected another democrat for mayor after he left office, she's no better)
-Jon
Better to say she represents
Submitted by Wanderer0101 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:35am.
Better to say she represents part of the Houston area. A part that would reelect her if she committed murder with an ax on Main Street at high noon. Most people in Houston find her to be a major embarassment. I think my dog is brighter than she is. The only thing she's good at is getting in front of a camera.
Reminds me of another prominant Black Politician
Submitted by Utherpend on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:54pm.
Marion Berry ring a bell? It seems that some disctricts elect on the shade of a person and not based on intelligence or ability.
Jon, don't feel to bad about her
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:58am.
Although she's usually the Ace in Dumb Congress Critter Poker.
I have an Ace to play in Dumb Critter Congress as well. I can't watch this video without laughing out loud, although it is extremely embarassing to have such an idiot representing part of my great state. What can I say? The idiots in Jacksonville keep re-electing her.
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Oh my lordy!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:18pm.
I don't feel bad about her because she's nothing to do with where I live.....THANK GOD! But nevertheless, she's a rep for Texas....that area where she represents really need to see the videos of her, especially like the time that she was on the cell phone when one of her constituents was trying to talk to her, and later said that the video was "doctored" or something like that. Those people need to see what kind of person she is.
As for Brown....oh my gawd....and it didn't help that the subtitles were there saying EXACTLY what she was saying, including "gradulate," hm, ebonics for congratulate? I could only watch the first couple of minutes, was afraid I would go blind the way I was rolling my eyes.
Any state/district who votes someone who clearly is a problem, even an enemy of the country, they can have it.
-Jon
I know, Jon...the Subtitles!!!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:37pm.
AAAACK-shully, I miss that gusty Percy Harvey, Corch Irvin Mayas, and Tim Tivo.
Lee & Brown make Cynthia McKinney look positively brilliant in comparison.
Pathetic critters.
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Warning to the Blonde*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 1:37pm.
Time to put on your gator helmet. This will be held in Ms Lee's back yard and will probably cause Chris Mathew's head to explode( helmet needed).
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/politics/110118-black-tea-in-houston
Oops!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:06pm.
Hard to play the race card against that group, LOL.
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cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 7:13pm.
I usually don't like groups who identify themselves by their race, but in this case I'll make an exception.
Ya Killin Me Blonde!
Submitted by crimsonspark on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 4:15pm.
Could we have a spew alert next time? I'm sitting at my desk and it kept getting increasingly difficult to stifle the laughs and keep my soda in my mouth. Those subtitles were great and really "captured" the essence of her speech.
Abject apologies, Crimsonspark
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 4:58pm.
The "sub-tylas" make the video, doncha think?
I've posted this a few times before (even though it is personally embarassing, as a GATOR)....but I shall endeavor to remember your entreaty to include a beverage alert the next time.
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OMG
Submitted by CommanderTaya on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 5:45pm.
I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Gonne wet mysef
Ha ha, Taya!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:58pm.
Glad you had a good laugh....it is hilarious, except for the fact that this idiot represents some of my fellow (?) Floridians.
:D
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Blonde
Submitted by CommanderTaya on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 7:08pm.
Mine too, I'm in Tampa, ugh.
Yale and U.Va grad !
Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:00am.
She came here from New York, so don't blame us! Then, Yale and U.Va. Law- so don't ever again give credence to the notion that a degree from a "prestigious" university or law school confers proof of intellect. (Can we all say "affirmative action?") Amazing, isn't it that she actually has a law degree and doesn't understand the Constitution.
The woman refused to obey election place rules during the last election, but no official had the stones to confront her. If it weren't SJL representing her district, her constituents would elect someone like Jolanda Jones, a city councilwoman who makes Venus Williams look like a gentle soul.
And they scoffed when Boehner insisted on opening . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:44am.
. . . this Congress with a reading of the Constitution.
Jackson-Lee is a perfect of example of a Leftwing lawyer who either doesn't understand Constitutional law, or is BS-ing to see what she can get away with. Defending the Affordable Health Care Act with the Commerce clause, and the 5th and 14th Amendments is so absurd, it would get laughed out of a sophomore poly sci course.
She's proof that you don't have to be intelligence to graduate from Yale and UVa.
The FDR court is the one that
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:13pm.
The FDR court is the one that stretched the use of the Commerce Clause. Believe me Dems have used those rulings to the fullest. I can see where she is coming from on that even though it is wrong. As the the 5th and 14th Amendments I can't for the life of me figure those out.
The best book I have seen on this subject is: The Dirty Dozen: How Twelve Supreme Court Cases Radically Expanded Government and Eroded Freedom.
I've been reading it for awhile. It is deep and hard for me to grasp.
Who says she doesn't understand it?
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:14pm.
She probably understands the lack of "positive rights" in the Cons perfectly well.
Here's the thing, that when seniors are denied heart-bypasses for cost-cutting measures and die--"due process" will be argued to be the fact that there is 1) a process in our National Healthcare system 2) backed by a fiat of Congress given a fig leaf of an expansive reading of the Commerce clause. So it will be fine to deny someone their right to life-sustaining medicine, roughly because the Congress said so.
Those will be unintended consequences, and the libs always take relief in those.
School
Submitted by Gothampc on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:50pm.
"so don't ever again give credence to the notion that a degree from a "prestigious" university or law school confers proof of intellect."
I figured that out a long time ago. Remember when Bill "prestigious university" Clinton said he didn't have sex with that woman and then tried to argue what the definition of "is" is?
No amount of higher schooling can help someone who has zero common sense.
No Surprise
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 1:15pm.
Keep in mind TexasMom, Obama used to lecture on constitutional law! And no one can, at least with a straight face, tell me that he understands the Constitution!
Ahhh, Sheila Jackson-Lee!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:08am.
Moron doesn't even begin to cover this B-itch.
I believe she is the genius who asked the NASA administrator during a subcommittee briefing on the Mars Rover project if the cameras on the Rover could see the American flag that was planted there by the astronauts.
He politely 'splained to her that the flag was on the moon.
I love Texas and Texans, and I realize that everything in Texas is bigger. Apparently that extends to your morons, too.
Ohhh Dude!!! Bigger morons
Submitted by bassndude on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:45am.
Ohhh Dude!!! Bigger morons to? Thats harsh!!! lol
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Well, bass, harsh it may be....
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:01pm.
...but in this instance, true.
Of course, you could go on up the thread and click on my link to Corrine Brown (Go Gata, Corch Urvin, and Tim Tivo).
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She found us
Submitted by echojack on Thu, 01/20/2011 - 12:14pm.
I believe she is from Brooklyn originally. Don't know how she managed to sneak across the border.
Like these DUMOCRATS
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:41am.
care about violating the Constitution. Just to remind this bimbo. We were told that the money payed for not having a health plan is a penalty, until the bill passed. Now it's a tax so that the commerce clause can be hoisted up a flag pole.
Nope. Can't have it both ways.
The only transparency I see in this government is that when they are lying to you (which is pretty much whenever their mouths move), they don't hide it or at least they don't hide their lies for long.
Drug Tests
Submitted by JustAl on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:41am.
Do members of congress have to pass them?
Absolutely, Al.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:10am.
And if you're a dimocrat, you must test positive to keep your seat.
The test is only given to
Submitted by jkwtrading on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:12pm.
The test is only given to humans, last I heard the congress had yet to meet the initial criteria.
Oh my
Submitted by KC Mulville on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:44am.
This woman has a role in making law. Scary, isn't it?
Very scary, KC
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:03pm.
She's an example of the imperfections in democracy. People will elect demagogues, liars. buffoons, and thiefs.
It's the price we have to pay in a free society.
Regarding Jackson-Lee's perversion of the 5th Amendment, if repealing a law isn't due process, how does mandating individuals buy a commercial product or pay a fine constitute a "due process?"
No
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:16pm.
Since Dredd Scott, "due process" has meant that only trial is fully compliant with "substantive due process".
She obviously learned her
Submitted by celator on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:48am.
She obviously learned her Constitutional Law while a student in Obama's Constitutional Law class at U. Chicago.
This is an example of what the hard lefty agit props and progressives call a "Living Constitution", you know, the wobbly, spinning, twisty, jello-like one they like to slap around to advance the Progressive agenda.
These folks are so idiotically transparent that it's child's play to figure them out.
Donald Trump on Hu's US Visit "Obama Will Drop to His Knees & Ki
Submitted by im41 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 10:50am.
Video Description
The Donald took a poke at Obow-ma today. While Chinese President Hu Jintao's plane
arrived in the United States today, Donald Trump told Neil Cavuto, "You'll let me know whether our President drops to his knees."
The Donald today told Neil Cavuto that, "Obama will drop to his knees and kiss his hand," when Chinese President Hu Jintao gets off his plane.
"He's done it before."
All conspiracies ain't theory.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:14am.
This is great in case you missed it on drudge today!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833
Is Sheila Lee really a
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:17am.
Is Sheila Lee really a congresswoman, as she presents herself as an escaped mental patient, just nobody has the heart to tell the poor thing the truth?
Barack_Must_Go.....
Somebody give me a hand.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:16am.
I accidentally stumbled over "Profiles" and "Buddy" stuff last night, but I can't find a description of how it works or what is allowed. I don't want to break any rules being the peace loving guy that I am.
Anybody steer me to that?
Bubba,
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:40pm.
In the "About" tab on the title bar, you'll find a link to the site's FAQ's (I know, I wrote them)....but they are proably sorely out of date.
PM me if you have any questions that aren't addressed there.
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So if I follow (at a
Submitted by ninerdog on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 11:20am.
So if I follow (at a distance) her logic the government has the right to force you to buy a car? Say a new GM model. The government has the right to force you to buy a new GE product? They can also force you to do these purchases on their time frames say every 4 years is that what she is saying?
I guess that they then could argue
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:17pm.
Buying a car makes people happy. Your pursuit of happiness is denied you by trying to take your mandated car purchase from you.
Since Cynthia McKinney left congress, Sheila Jackson-Lee...
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:04pm.
...has taken up the mantle as the stoopidist and most ignorant member of that already intellectually-challenged body.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:24pm.
At one time I would have agrued with you over the stoopist but not anymore. I always felt like it was Mel Watt after having met him but Jacskon-Lee has now surpassed him. The bad thing about it she give 2 great names Jackson as in Andrew and Stonewall and Lee as in Robert E. Lee bad names.
Sorry, Dave....Florida beats Georgia again
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:43pm.
See the video of Corrine Brown, D-Jacksonville, I posted above.
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rick and J,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:56pm.
LOL - Yeah, but we still have Hank Johnson, he of Guam is going to tip over fame, and who was voted into office by the rocket scientists that populate McKinney's former district.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Well, we're close to a Royal Flush
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:10pm.
Of stupid Critters.
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We've got it
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:36pm.
Your royal flush. The Ace-Hank Johnson. King-Mel Watt, Queen-Jackson Lee, Joker-that has to be Maxine Waters and the 10-your favorite Corrine Brown. You take a SWAG, Scientific wild-assed guess, on the suit.
Hammer-less Hank....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 01/20/2011 - 1:42pm.
That questioning session was soooooo painfully stupid. I'm amazed at the level of professionalism and class shown by Adm. Willard. My response would have been on the lines of, "Are you effing kidding me? Ask me that question again so, in case there was someone not paying attention, everyone see how stupid you are." That's why I'd be a lousy politician.
I told my daughter the way
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:26pm.
I told my daughter the way Obama was messing with Tri-Care it wouldn't surprise me when he puts the military on Obamacare. If he does that he should put himself and al the Congresscriters on it.
I Rise
Submitted by Gothampc on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 12:43pm.
I rise in opposition to stupid people who stand up and make speeches about things they have no clue about.
You are going to be.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 01/20/2011 - 1:37pm.
on your feet a lot!
This is HILARIOUS! CNN's John King apologized for one
Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 1:15pm.
of his guests using the word crosshairs yesterday VIDEO and said:
Evidently the folks at CNN.com did not get the memo. In a headline titled Pomp and circumstance mark arrival of Chinese leader CNN uses the word crosshairs:
h/t mwmillertime, a poster at Washington Examiner.
Rush Fan,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 1:24pm.
LOL - I saw that, too.
Wow, we are most definitely living in bizarro world for sure.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Humm...
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:04pm.
"The Fifth Amendment speaks specifically to denying someone their life and liberty without due process"
You mean like the liberty of not buying some government approved insurance policy without being FINED for it? Where's the due process for denying people the liberty of NOT buying something?
Don't forget the Ninth Amendment which states: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Do you know what that means? It means that you can't FORCE people to buy something against their will EVEN IF you think it is their "right" to buy something. Not only do people have a right to insurance, as you insist, they also have a right to NOT have insurance. You can't take away one right by the attempted enforcement of another.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
boy this lady has got to
Submitted by jkwtrading on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:09pm.
boy this lady has got to go...she cannot read, think, or write..
There was a time when people
Submitted by DWoSD on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:25pm.
There was a time when people this stupid would be given no credence let alone a platform to verbalize their idiocy. But now a days they are elected to congress. She leads a district of people even more stupid than she is........
"If truth and facts were food,liberals would starve to death." o.d. harrisson
Someone sent me this great link
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 2:26pm.
If you are a fan of the space program, and photos of earth from space, you must click this link.
There are also a couple of links to Col. Wheelock's other photos. Spectacular!
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Wow J,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 5:15pm.
Those are awesome!
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I second that WOW! Thank you Blonde for the link. Perhaps
Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:03pm.
our Space program will get another boost once a Republican takes the Presidency in 2012.
De nada, gentlemen.
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:52pm.
How can a person possibly click that link, view those pictures, and not believe there is a God?
The incredible beauty is literally breathtaking...and that we, human beings, as sentient creatures, have managed to get there (outer space) and do that (take the pictures).....all by ourselves? Well. It's kind of a "rest my case" thing.
Glad you enjoyed...I know I did. :)
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WOW! Thanks. I am going to
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:40pm.
WOW! Thanks. I am going to bookmark those for the grandkids. Dave said awesome,. I can't think of a better word.
Having a UN-natural born citizen in the WH is also ...
Submitted by Jayke on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 3:28pm.
... UN-Constitutional but that won't stop a DEM.
and "the dog ate his birth certificate" ...
Submitted by Jayke on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 3:35pm.
... accorging to The Honolulu Star-Advertiser
Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?
A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.
(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)
It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...
http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborativ...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833
How is acting with Constitutional authority unconsitutional?
Submitted by nkviking75 on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 5:02pm.
The Constitution gives Congress the authority to repeal laws. It can hardly be unconstitutional to exercise their constitutional authority. And anyway, people weren't exactly dying in the streets by the millions before Obamacare was passed.
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Good question
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 5:27pm.
She's on with Neil Cavuto with picture of a senior citizen with pneumonia.
She's trying to justify her outright stupid comments.
Reprehensible!
-Jon
Edit: Neil's not having a whole lotta fun, she's been saying more stupid comments.
No wonder these people go to
Submitted by ant on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 5:33pm.
No wonder these people go to Congress. They would have accidentally killed themselves working any other job.
Seperated at birth
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 6:44pm.
Van got this one right. Where has the little twerp been? Havent heard from him on the other shows. It is true that Ron Jr. is not the son of the Gipper.
Sheila's just trying
Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Thu, 01/20/2011 - 1:23am.
Sheila Jackson Lee is just trying to round up them stray cattle and keep the more docile ones in the pen. (see Glenn Beck's show of today) Too bad Sheila's a New York girl and wouldn't know how to run down a steer unless it was in a taxi. Actually, she looks simply hysterical when she "rides" in the Houston Rodeo Parade- it's quite a sight.
I think she found
Submitted by USA4freedom on Thu, 01/20/2011 - 11:15am.
I think she found that nugget in logic on Mars (where the rover was looking for the American flag), or in Vietnam where we won the war and now live next to each other in perfect harmony..
(keep in mind this idiot is on the Subcommittee on South Asia)
God help us all…
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, the Republican party.