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By NB Staff | October 30, 2010 | 09:59
For general discussion and debate about politics, the economy, sports, the elections, today's rallies in Washington, or whatever tickles your fancy.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:24am.
All the libs are in Washington, if they got free rides and food.
The rest of us are in Key West for Fantasy Fest! If you've been you know what I mean. If not, don't ask. Try it before you die, Bubba and Bubba Jean.
What a change in a couple of years. Before, all you saw were disgusting Sarah Palin impersonators (some of them were even female!). This year, I've seen one, and it was very tasteful, by Key West standards.
So you liberal clowns have fun in Washington, ya hear! Meanwhile, the fun people in the world will be in the streets of Key West trying to keep "abreast" of things.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:48am.
I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd see those words in combination!
Give a wave to the old "Cat House" on Duval Street for me (the one right next door to La Ti Da).
And I'm sure you'll be keeping "abreast" of things on Duval...last time I was there for Fantasy Fest, there were lots of boobs in the parade....and other things, which I'd best not specify.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Submitted by acumen on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:53am.
I always got the impression every day in Key West was a fantasy fest.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:09am.
Last time I was there it was Spring Break....which is just like Spring Break used to be in Fort Lauderdale.
Terribly overcrowded now, the Turtle Kraals are wall to wall condos. Caroline Street has a multi-story parking garage. I didn't know where I was!
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:14am.
You can still find chickens running amok in some areas of Key West. Love it there.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:17am.
Old Key West still lives, but you have to know where to look! It's still a great town to (not) grow old in.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:20am.
Best cracked conch in the universe.
The problem for me is I've been going to the Keys since I was a little kid, back before even the K-Mart on Marathon. So when I see the place now, it just makes me sad.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:29am.
As the great Jimmy Boof-ay would say:
I'm Growing Older But Not Up.
"Though the winds of change blow over my head, I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead."
I haven't thought of Parrotheads in a long, long time.
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 7:38pm.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:13am.
I've always said that Key West was on another planet. It really is.
My favorite description of the town is, "there are more, long-legged, tall, beautiful blonds with big boobs in this town than anywhere else on the planet, and some of them are actually women!"
So be careful when you drink.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:24am.
You know the "cat house" to which I refer, of course?
After college, the ex-s brother & SIL rented the upstairs. We'd sit up there on the balcony, drinking Cuban coffee & eating bollas, and wave at the Conch Train as it went by and pointed out the unique architecture (hearts and bottle gingerbread railing for those of you who have never seen it).
A great place to watch the parade from, too....seeing all the lunatics without having to mingle with them.
After Fantasy Fest one year, my BIL failed to return home. His wife was really PO'd, as we sat on the balcony. She called the hospital, she called the jail. Eventually he came staggering up the street (he'd passed out at his boss's house). She dumped a bucket of water on him from the balcony.
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:31am.
I'm still wondering, where in the Constitution does the President derive the right to "punish" me for disagreeing with him?
And since it was Hispanics he was asking to punish me, is that not some of the most racist gall ever displayed by a President?
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:50am.
You are the enemy, he wants to kick your ass, put his foot on your throat, and bring a gun to a knife fight.
This man's disdain for the citizens of this country couldn't possibly be greater. However, Obama never fails to surprise me by exceeding my (worst) expectations.
Submitted by StarAZ on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:04am.
I thought he meant Arizonans, not just Anglos, with that crack.
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:34am.
I heard this on the radio the other day:
When is the press going to draw the connection that the very reason that college costs keep going up is that the federal government has been throwing money at colleges and universities over the last 20-30 years in the form of grants and student loans? Anything that the federal government gets involved in, be it housing or health care or higher education, the costs go up!
Student loans recently passed credit card debt as the second biggest form individual debt behind home mortgages!
Who is the beneficiary of all this nonsense? Why it's the biggest backer of liberalism and statist government around, the higher education racket! We need to get rid of all grants and totally privatize student lending, if we are ever to come to grips with the outrageous costs of higher education. And stop the nonsense of:
1. The bad news: Higher education costs are up.
2. The good news: Grants and loans are up too!
THIS IS NONSENSE!
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:38am.
You'll also never hear any rants against 'big edu' or greedy professors, even though college costs have gone up a disproportionate amount over the last 20-30 years. Big oil, big pharma, big bank, big capitalist bad, big edu good.
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:18pm.
Greedy professors? Really?
I teach at a college. Guess how much influence I have over my own salary - none.
I have as much of a say in what my salary is as a clerk at a bank has in theirs, and less of a say than a unionized worker since college professors aren't unionized.
Guess how much influence I have over how the college spends its money - none.
We have a college board that does that and there is next to no input from the faculty in terms of what they do. If there were, I don't think we would have agreed to forced furloughs in the last couple of years.
And if you think college professor salaries are at the top of the list of your typical college board, you are delusional.
How about actually talking to some of us "greedy professors" before making sweeping generalizations.
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:48pm.
Big edu, teachers unions, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. I stand by my post. I am not talking community college here. The local school district, in an area where the average annual salary is about $58,000 has an average annual salary of $96,000, that includes janitors, another example of the servants making more than the masters. Pensions guaranteed to rise through tax increases. You will never hear a complaint about this from the left, just as they won't complain about lawyers pay.
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:06pm.
Not sure what "teachers unions" you are talking about - to my knowledge, college and university professors are not unionized. I certainly am not. As far as I know, I've never met a prof who was part of a union. Maybe you can enlighten me on this one.
And I suppose you can provide some proof of these $96000 a year janitors which you seem to suggest populate the halls of most universities.
As for your comparison to average salaries - I suppose you think folks who spend 10 years in school acquiring training and skills - you know, kinda like medical doctors or lawyers do - should have their incomes adjusted to match the average annual salary of the community they work in?
I'm curious - how much money do you make? Is it above the average in the community you work in?
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:10pm.
Last post on this. I am talking PRIVATE universities, who make money hand over fist, and keep raising fees, and are never called on the carpet to 'pay their fair share'. Harvard is one that comes to mind. Extremely wealthy. The left will rant and rave about most businesses, but never about these colleges, which could afford to give free tuition to tens of thousands of students every year. I DO NOT mean community colleges, whose instructers are laughed at by 'real' professors, or even most state colleges.
As for the local school district, it is another bloated, tax eating monster, that the left will never complain about. And there are no $96,000 janitors. I said the AVERAGE salary was $96,000, which includes all employees.
How much do I make? Irrelevent, but I haven't worked in about 18 months.
Greedy professors? I meant that you will hear Obama and the left rail about greedy bankers, greedy doctors, greedy oilmen, etc, but never teachers.
Then again, maybe there are no wealthy colleges.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:47pm.
What school system in what school district on which planet are you talking about? And do they need a janitor?
By the way, the state with the highest average salary for teachers is California at $59,825/yr. [Another survey pegged it at app. $63,000].
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:56pm.
You know how an average is calculated, right? And you know that across a state there is likely a wide range of salaries, right? And you know that if there is a relatively small number of high salaries and a lot of lower salaries, the average salary will be somewhere in the middle, but closer to the lower salaries, right?
So, while I would a little surprised to learn of a school district with those kinds of salaries, I don't think it's impossible.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:09pm.
which is why I would like to know where the district is located, preferably with a link to the statistics. In any event, I think it's safe to assume the figure is anomalous and therefore not particularly helpful to DFTT's argument.
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:22pm.
How many anomalies does it take to prove a point? If you live in the district he's talking about, I'd say it only takes one.
That being said, I'd like to know what district it is, too, so I never make the mistake of moving there.
You seem to be stepping up your vocabulary lately, Jer. Did you get a thesaurus for your birthday? ;)
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:54pm.
Enough that they would no longer be considered anomalies. DFTT's point is the lack of complaints by the left [concerning the size of teachers' salaries, etc.]. He then cites the exception which proves the rule, or at least supports the counter argument.
Gosh, I've been trying to cut back on the 75-cent words. I guess I slipped up--hopefully just an anomaly.
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:26pm.
OK, I get your point about the selective outrage of some on the left when it comes to complaining about who gets counted as greedy and who doesn't.
By the way, in my experience, I've never encountered a prof at private or upper tier school who's looked down upon or "laughed" at a prof at community college or lower tier school.
Maybe the profs you're hanging out with are jerks.
Or maybe you're just working off the stereotype that if you happen to teach at a good college or university, that automatically makes you arrogant.
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:04pm.
This link to a 1992 report shows "Custodian Engineer" at up to 80K... they have probably gotten a few COLA's between then and now.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:49pm.
I'm having trouble opening your link. Will you check it for accuracy please.
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:58pm.
Try this... 1st link since New & Improved...
@$&*%$*&%#!!! Oh well cut, paste and search...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:06pm.
I pasted it into my address bar and got a message that "windows cannot find the requested address. Please check the spelling and try again.
[The janitors have probably gotten another raise just in the time we've been trying to open the link.]
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:38am.
http://www.nycsci.org/reports/11-92 Custodian Rpt.pdf
If this doesn't work Bing search "Custodian Engineers nyc pay"
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:02pm.
It truly is a messed up situation. On the one hand, the government is increasing money for student grants and loans while on the other they are cutting direct funding to state colleges and universities, thereby forcing them to increase tuition.
It seems to be a system that's feeding on itself.
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:35pm.
States should subsidize their "public" Universities if that is what the citizens of the state deem appropriate. Tutitions should reflect such with deep discounts for "in-state-tuition". Private colleges should be strictly private and receive no federal or state aid. The federal government should have no role in funding education.
As for the above comment and "greedy professors": I view that as kind of tongue-in-cheek. It's basically the same situation as the housing bubble and Wall Street and Banks. it's only human nature to try and make as much money as possible. The feds poured tons of money into the housing market and mortgages leading up to the bubble of 2007-2008. Were the Bankers greedy?
The feds are also pouring tons of money into colleges and universites vis-a-vis grants and student loans, many going to people who shouldn't be going to college, (sound familiar?). So higher education is going to make as much money as possible as long as the gravy train contintues. Some within the system will make more money then others, much of it as undeserved as the bankers during the housing bubble.
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:00pm.
I can't say that I disagree with anything you've written.
At their core, colleges and universities are businesses and I suppose they will do what they can, given the opportunities available to them, to make as much money as they can.
If the government - through the people - decides to alter the way it funds colleges and universities, then they will have to adjust to survive. And if some profs lose their job over it, so be it.
Oh, and if DFTT's comment was tongue-in-cheek, then I'll happily apologize to them for my misunderstanding.
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:41am.
I would like to see and hear one talking head ask a supposedly conservative Democrat why they are not running as a Republican. Most notably Manchania? who is running for senate in W.V.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:47am.
We have a Democrat, Barbare Garrity-Blake, running for State Senate here who is trying to pass herself off as a conservative. It is not working. She has piised off her Dem buddies for abdoning her liberal roots. Conservatives that follow what is going on are not buying her crap. Seems she has been endorsed by Emily's List. We all know they only endorse liberal women that are stongly pro-abortion.
I feel the Dems are going to sit thei one out. She didn't have a chance anyway against a stanch conservative in Jean Preston.
Submitted by Reaver on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:46am.
The Obama administration run GM announces just days before the election that they will be adding 600 new jobs at their Lansing factory. Lansing mayor and democrat gubernatorial candidate Bernero is on hand along with Gov. Granholm to tout the success of “their jobs programs”. Is it just me or does anyone else think this reeks of politics?
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:05pm.
I was not around when FDR was around but I undersatnd this was one of his tatics to get Dems elected. He used what we would call porkulus money to send to districts/states where Dems where floundering. Obama still has Monday to annouce that porkulus funds will be going to certain areas where Dems are in trouble. It could happen.
Submitted by acaiguana on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 7:36am.
The use of public funds to reward their political supporters is not new;
Let us put a stop to it.
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Submitted by mom_rox on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:11am.
Has VP Biden announced the Fall of Recovery yet?
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:41am.
The NFL PAC has given over $340,00 to mostly Dems this election cycle. Read the article.
Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:45am.
I'm looking forward to two photo comparisons of today's Washington stunt and the Beck rally.
One will be the overhead shot of the crowd from the Washington Monument. The other will probably take more than a single pic, but it will be the comparison of the trash left behind by participants.
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 12:36pm.
Sorry, but filming is not allowed.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:03pm.
They can't stop someone from filming at a public rally on public property. I would like to see them deprive someone of their 1st Amendment rights.
Submitted by KC Mulville on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:33pm.
Initial estimates put the crowd at 42 billion.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:23pm.
But as is customary for numbers that prove initially positive for Democrats, it will be revised downward twice over the coming weeks; first to a "still strong showing of 18 billion" followed a month later -and buried on page A-23- "a respectable 60,000."
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:16pm.
I found under a news item about this Democrat-shilling, liberal activist (yeah, "it's just comedy", riiiiiiight), circle-jerk circus show going on in D.C.:
I can tell you what insanity is; giving up one's individual liberties to a government. If these two entertainers want to really restore sanity, they would be encouraging people to go to a Tea Party rally. I suppose today’s attendees would have no objection, if the Government decided not to allow them to peacefully assemble.
Insanity is turning over your freedoms and trusting in something other than yourself - which will then decide what freedoms you can have back. Government can be benevolent up until the point it has the power to take from you more than it gives. By the time this mistake is realized, it will be no longer possible to get back what you gave up.
Watch what is happening in Europe and learn. The Government gave the people unsustainable great promises and now are turning back on them. People are resorting to rioting against their own government to satisfy their needs; because they have little freedom to pursue their own life, liberty and happiness.
For those who are so enamored with the idea of unlimited government powers, I suggest, that is insanity.
- Shy Turntablism 6.0
EDIT: Bold emphasis is mine.
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Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 12:52pm.
Democrats Greatest Hits, enjoy
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:08pm.
To me, the idiotic Stewart-Colbert rally looked much more like a college frat party than an actual protest. The bulk of the crowd appeared to be of college-age, and many had beers in hand. (Here's what scary: many of them will actually vote on Tuesday!)
Perhaps many of them were there to see the stars and not actually protest!
Gee, and I thought that the SEIU/AFSCME goons and professional protesters would be on hand...
Submitted by KC Mulville on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:04pm.
I think the whole rally is a political gesture to "answer" Glenn Beck's rally, so by nature, the rally is a political waste of time. As a cultural statement, the idea of a bunch of people "standing up" for ... reason ... well, as a philosopher, that strikes me as ludicrous. It's about as rational as having a rally to "support" math.
But I was selfish today. I thought, for sure, they'd have some comedy. Might be worth tuning in for a couple laughs, even if the laughs were guaranteed to be at the expense of religion or conservatives.
Here's what I saw. Cat Stephens (I call him by his old name because I can't spell his new name) came on and was singing Peace Train. OK, I liked that song. Halfway through, Colbert and Stewart break up the song to mock debate each other, and out comes ... Ozzy Osbourne. Then they engage in a "train" metaphor debate. How lame! It had all the spontaneity of a middle school Second City ripoff.
Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin made a fortune breaking up performances, and going wild. Colbert and Stewart ... not the same.
I was hoping for some comedy, at least. Lame.
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:28pm.
I see today that obama might try to divide the Bush tax cuts into two piles -- granding permament tax cuts to everyone who's not "rich"; and a 1-year extension to the "rich".
He said -- for the 11,347th time -- "we can't afford the tax cuts".
But I've never heard him say -- not once -- "we can't afford the spending".
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:45pm.
Obama says today that the R's plan to "rollback" everything he has tried to accomplish. Lets look at what he has done. He wanted people to have affordable housing as part of his "social justice".
First, he bails out GM, gives Hamas 2 B dollars, gives Mexico 1 1/2 B dollars, gives Brazil 2 B dollars. How many families can you just GIVE them a house with 6 Billion dollars?
Interesting that his "social justice" involves govt. waste, money to his cronies, money to our enemies, but raises our taxes.
ROLLBACK of his policies should just be the place to begin.
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:46pm.
I'd like to see Obama rolled right back to Chicago.
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:15pm.
Well I say let's roll! I'll drive him back there myself. His brats can sit in the back. He and Michelle may ride in the trunk.
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:21pm.
You are too kind! I'll pay for the gas.
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 9:04pm.
You're coming with me, right? Sitting up FRONT, of course! It will be a blast! I'll bring the snacks, and we'll play right wing talk radio loud and clear aaaaalll the way to Chicago!
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:52pm.
Over the last half hour I have heard MSNBC count the people at the Stewart Rally.
First it was tens of thousands.
Then I heard "about a hundred thousand" and not 15 minutes later it was "around a a hundred and fifty thousand".
WOW, that sure is a lot of people showing up in a very short amount of time.
Nothing like crowd estimate creep to get you going in the afternoon......
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:16pm.
100,000 to 200,000. Soon, we will all be there. Odd, I feel like I am still in Illinois.
Submitted by Chris M-G on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:56pm.
I was actually impressed with the overall tone of Jon's ending monologue. And he did it without a teleprompter. He made the left wing hate machine look like fools.
Submitted by Apache on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:05pm.
I tried to watch while stuck in the office but that was one boring "rally". The parts I did see could have been easily interpreted as making fun or talking down to the audience. So if we were to assume their audience is mostly liberal (safe assumption thanks to the DNC and Huff trying to hijack it as their own) they were just lectured to behave and stop being such asshats. I don't think the tea party events talk down to their audience. Those events are to let the audience know people are listening to them. But I don't think a "liberal" can put on that type of event.
Submitted by Chris M-G on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:11pm.
The funny thing is that many of them probably didn't realize that they were being made fun of.
Submitted by Paul G on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:18pm.
(I wish I woulda got paid) but, that was the most boring non-event ever!
The Kareem thing...? REALLY? .....NO! I'm not racist..look at my tall black muslim friend...REALLY? sad..
just going to see how the LSM spins this...
Submitted by Paul G on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:25pm.
Isn't the 60-80,000 ppl estimate that 'they're' already bragging about, about the size that L. O"Donnell says walks through there on any given weekend? hmmm ..can't wait till monday.. nevermind...it'll be a dead issue/story by then. Stewart who?
Submitted by Chris M-G on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:28pm.
Like I always say... pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make it go away.
Submitted by DaMav on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:28pm.
why didn't they invite any black folks besides the entertainers?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:44pm.
My guess is that they'll all be so burned out from standing around for 6 hours many won't be able muster up the resolve to get to the polls Tuesday.
And wait til the idiots find out Okrah only paid for one-way bus tix.
"Hey, isn't this where the bus was, Tiffany?"
Submitted by BuffNBone on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:14pm.
" No Lance, our bus was by the others and they all seem to have gone away. Whatever will we do?"
Stay tuned for the dramatic conclusion.
Do they know their way home or will someone have to tell them--again?
Can they find their way through the mountain of trash left behind?
Will the intrepid pair be stranded beyond the witching hour?
Will their supply of Chuckles and Snickers last until they can find an open Whole Foods store? Will they bring their own bags or choose plastique?
Will their Prius start when they get back to it?
Submitted by exLib on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:12pm.
CNN covered the whole rally today, while not covering any of the Beck rally (Fox didn't either) but was not shy at the time about condemning Fox for promoting Beck rally.
CNN not too concerned about Politics at Today's Rally although they did ask the question. They mentioned voter registration and get out the vote booths are there.
CNN slanders Palin before going to a clip of her "speaking in ways that are typical for the kinds of things Sarah Palin says at a rally" While she was speaking the bottom 1/4 of the screen had live shots of Stewart Rally with a cryon at the bottom saying "we'll come right back soon with more of the rally, stay tuned".
CNN spent 3 hours covering Stewart/Colbert rally and then went around to 4 key races all in which Democrats had large leads, where Obama or Michelle were speaking, or Clinton, not commenting on how they were speaking at what should be gimme races.
Played 4 minute clip of Steele speaking at rally after showing O'Donnel down 20 points in a poll. Mentioned POTUS would be there on Monday to stump for Coons, no mention again that the POTUS in Delaware speaking for someone with a 20 point lead is ridiculous.
CNN correspondent insisted that the rally was diverse, but a quick scan of the crowd showed 1 black guy and 1 hispanic in a sea of white people.
CNN cameras never panned out of a relatively tight shot of the crowd of about 20K tops, no one was behind them except a scant few people. No real mention of how many were in attendance (must have been really low).
CNN on the scene correspondent spent 2-3 hours as an anchor of the event being asked to make all kinds of observations and opinions on almost every aspect of the event. He sounded basically like he reading a press release most of the time. At the end finally admits he's biased, he worked for 5 years on Daily Show.
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:25pm.
...will be all over this:
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:22pm.
...racist hillbilly Jesus shouters who believe in Jonah living in a whale's belly and talking snakes, but at least we live better:
I guess that means snotty, liberal elitists like Maher are miserable. Good
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:37pm.
I live in North Dakota, and there was a rally here in my town today, and all the statewide candidates were there, including John Hoeven, our very popular Repub 3 term governor who is running for the Senate, and is going to win easily...This is an open seat, since one of our senators, Byron Dorgan, a Dem, chose not to run for re-election this year, because polls showed at the beginning of the year that he'd lose. Hoeven is ahead of the Dem challenger by 50-60 points (I'm not kidding). Also at the rally was Rick Berg, the Repub who is running for congress against Earl Pomeroy, our lamebrain Democrat 9 term congressman, who is in big trouble here... Berg has, based on Rasmussen's latest polling, about a 10 point lead. People here are furious with Pomeroy for voting for Obamacare and the stimulus...He's voted with Pelosi 97% of the time, and now he's paying for it. The national Dems have poured a truckload of money in here to help Pomeroy hang onto his seat, but he's had a real fight on his hands, and it looks like he may well lose. So, hopefully in this election, North Dakota will replace 2 Dems with 2 Repubs.
This rally was part of a statewide, 3 day bus tour, and based on what was said, they are seeing big crowds across the state. Things appear to be looking good here in North Dakota for Tuesday...Fingers crossed.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:26pm.
It's not half as much fun not being able to bust your chops, fella....go borrow a computer, okay?
GO GATORS!!!!! Pound the Pups!!!!!
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:42pm.
Bill & Mary are up 17-7 0n my Heels.
When the Ratpack beat the Criminoles Thursday it let Clem's son get back in the race for the Atlantic Division of the ACC. So what does Clem's on do today to knock them out of any chance? They blow one t BC.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:52pm.
From a post at Moonbatery.com. :
although the pharmaceutically lobotomized zombie Ozzie Osbourne was also on hand at the moonbat fest, as was Yusuf Islam (fka Cat Stevens), the folk singer who agreed that Salman Rushdie should be killed for annoying Iran's ayatollahs.
If I read right there were 400 from NY that went to the crap. So there were 250 buses. Gosh, some of them had a bus to themselves.
Submitted by melman11 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:01pm.
First time poster here but long time reader. I'm a local college student and decided to go into DC for the rally today. A few of my friends were going so I said "What the heck!". I arrived just before 1:00 and stayed toward the back.
A few observations:
-There seemed to be a good crowd. Actually, I thought it was crowded. It was a very nice day. I kept a low profile so I didn't cause any trouble ;)
-Wouldn't say it was all younger/college people. But I could definitely see more of a younger generation there. I saw a guy with a McCain/Palin shirt on so I of course went up to talk. He said he was fine and just was just enjoying it for what it was worth.
-Sign material was all over the place. There were some pretty good ones. Others not so much. I saw tons of anti-Fox News signs. Lots of "Fight Fox" stuff- I think there's a website/movement. People were not into the Tea Party- at all. Signs bashing the Tea Party were common (Not a surprise really)
Overall- it was fine. Nothing that changed my life. Definitely a liberal crowd but I would guess a few Conservatives made it (at least my friends!) No fights or obnoxious public outbursts. Sorry for the long post!
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:03pm.
Wish you had some pics.
Submitted by melman11 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:23pm.
Yeah- I wish I took more. The best one I got was "I live in NJ. I'm used to insanity." Took that one for a friend of mine.
The more "interesting" signs were over on the side, not where we were standing on the Mall. I saw a few about that stomping incident.
But honestly, I can't say with 100% certainty that there were any demeaning signs about Conservatives. Sure, you had the "Palin would have quit" and "Say no to the Tea Party" or whatever. There was quite a few "teabagger" shirts but I think that is mainstream stuff now unfortunately.
Also, there was not a lot of diversity (in race that is) at all.
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:23pm.
Check out the one that says NAMBLA at the bottom of the photo...Charming group that this rally attracted, huh?
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:26pm.
and thanks for the report...It's always interesting to hear from someone firsthand who actually attended one of these rallies.
It sounds pretty much like what I expected...Mainly a liberal, anti-conservative, anti-Tea Party crowd. You may want to go to Michelle Malkin's site...She has a few pictures there, along with a link to Free Republic with more photos.
Thanks again for the info and welcome aboard!
Submitted by melman11 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:34pm.
I told Blonde I wish I took more pictures. But I am going to venture a guess that pictures will flood the internet soon.
I did not go the Beck rally so I can't compare the two. I thought it was very crowded. Metro was packed and I had a good conversation with a mom/daughter from NY on my way back. Never had to mention politics or anything.
But yes I agree- it was a very anti-Conservative crowd. There did seem to be a quite a bit of negativity. These people believe that they are the moderate ones. Lots of sarcasm with the fear stuff.
But to be fair- the crowd where I was standing was polite and law-abiding. Some of the signs were probably very close to crossing the line. But remember, I'm a college student and it's just not that shocking to me.
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:51pm.
I'm happy to hear that most of those you saw appeared to be fairly well-behaved, given who most the crowd consisted of. These folks are always screaming that conservatives are the mean, nasty, hateful ones, but it has been my experience that the atmosphere at Repub/conservative and Tea Party events have been quite positive and upbeat, versus that negativity and sarcasm that you said you saw today...That seems to be a constant and common theme at these left/liberal gatherings.
I understand what you meant by not being too shocked by what you saw because you're a college student, but my daughter is your age, and she's still plenty shocked and dismayed by what she sees and hears from the left...Try not to allow yourself to become too desensitized to the insanity of the left...That may eventually lead to becoming numb to how backward the liberal/left ideology truly is.
Submitted by melman11 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:15pm.
Prairie- Thanks for the advice. I understand exactly what you're saying.
This event was not upbeat- it was a sarcasm show. I knew of the underlying sentiment- that these people are scared of what might happen on Tuesday. But, in my opinion, the sarcasm show works for people my age. I don't watch Stewart or Colbert but some of my roommates do.
You've probably heard it all from your daughter but college is not a Conservative friendly place. I hate being silent when my beliefs are under attack and I am probably more outspoken than many. I have many great Conservative friends who share some of the same values.
I hope to share many stories of what it is like to be a Conservative of campus.
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 7:05pm.
of your experiences. Being a conservative on a college/university campus is not easy. My daughter had that illustrated very clearly for her this last school year. One of her history professors took a sabbatical, and the school hired a professor to sub for him for the semester. It became apparent immediately that this guy was a loon. He turned out to be a raging leftist, anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-Christian, anti-military nutcase. This man would hold his classes hostage with his diatribes to the point that a number of his students, including my daughter, finally complained to the dean. An investigation took place, and they fired him. By this time it was mid-term of the semester so a couple of other professors from the department had to cover this loon's classes for the rest of the term, but at least they were rid of him.
I know how difficult it is to hold your tongue when what you believe is under attack...My daughter experiences that as well. Sometimes she remains silent, sometimes not. We have taught her to stand up for herself and her beliefs. When she does choose to speak up, she tries to do so in a calm, reasoned manner, since it doesn't take much to set off the liberal loons, as you well know.
In the meantime, you and your friends stand strong on what you believe, and hang in there...You've got a lot of company.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:46pm.
Beck's 8/28 rally
That One Nation thing.
And John Colbert's free transportation and all the weed you can smoke rally.
Today's rally was set up at the other end of the mall so it's hard to compare crowd size. Regardless, the free transportation and younger generation will aspect will always rate an asterisk for this lovefest.
(Not that I'm biased...)
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:16pm.
The best way to document the hypocrisy is to use their own words against them.
Like this one that should be posted around the net come Wednesday morning.
And if anyone calls you a racist or unamerican, use this one.
Submitted by im41 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:10pm.
This video needs to be seen by everyone in California before Tuesday!!
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 3:58am.
referred to Boise State as Boise, Ohio. I had it on DVR, so I watched it again to make sure I was hearing what I was hearing.
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