Jake Delhomme has been upset since Thursduy night when Jay Culter passed him for the lead in interseptions for the season. Look for Jake to regain the lead today against the Falcons. Stewart is out so he is going to have to throw the ball. Falcons 42 Panthers 10. The game is in Charlotte. Does anybody know if the Falcons bus to Charlotte or fly? It is only a four hour drive there from Atlanta. They would spend that much time in the airport.
The only games that jump out are the Colts-Patriots and Bengals-Steelers. I don't think Dallas-Green Bay will be worth the watch. Cowboys are hot, Packers are not.
Anyway the Heels play Valpirso on Fox Sports South at 4. ECU plays Tulsa tonight but don't look for high ratings going up against the Colts-Pats.
It is a good thing the college b-ball kicks off in earnest tomorrow night. There will be an alternative to the Broncos-Browns.
Only 2 more weeks left in the college regular season. I don't see anybody that can knock off Bama, Florida, or Texas. I thought Auburn might have a chance against Bama but after what the Dawgs did to them I don't feel so good about it now.
Congrats to Pitt. You may have just helped ND make the decsion to give Weiss his walking papers. Sure has shut Lou Holtz up thank goodness.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
game of the week: patriots @ colts on sunday night
game for the weak: so many but since only 1 game on monday night, ravens/browns is awful for national audience.
upset special: gave out titans last 2 weeks. this week going with 6-2 team doesn't sound like much of an upset special but when that 6-2 team is the bengals on the road against the steelers it is. BENGALS 20-16.
These days, every play is a mini-chess-match between a quarterback and a defensive coordinator. On one field, not only do we have two of the three best decision-makers (Drew Brees this year being the third), but we have two of the best defensive coordinators as well. For all intents and purposes, Belichik is the Patriots' defense coordinator, and he's likely the best.
For me, Dallas Clark of the Colts is the key. Most defensive coordinators want to take away Peyton Manning's deep receivers, especially Reggie Wayne. That means that the Colts' "underneath" game, throwing shorter passes, has to get first downs. This year, Dallas Clark has been getting first downs. If the Patriots clamp down on Dallas Clark, and limit Reggie Wayne to only a couple deep catches, Patriots win.
I just hope is shapes up as the game of the week. I hate when a great match up turns out to be a snoozer. The Saints will see New England in 2 weeks in the Dome. I'll watch this and send my scouting report to Payton :)
I couldn't believe that Frank, Terry, Howie and Jimmy picked the Panthers. At first I assumed it was the Pitt Panthers. Evidently they have not been watching the Panthers I have had to endure this season. They are crappy. Last time they play Tony Gonzales had a career day. Thomas Davis the Panthers' best LB is out. Look for Gonzales to shine again today.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
At some point, the Saints have got to start playing better. They let the Rams hang around until the LAST play. The Saints had several opportunities to put them away, but they just didn't couldn't get it done. It looked like all of them had the flu, from the coaches on down. It was a terrible game. Only thing the Saints took away from that is the W. They stunk up the place.
Ironically, this was probably Reggie Bush's best game. Show's he's out of sync with the team :)
I am sure I am living in the Twilight Zone. There is no way that should have happened. Jake didn't throw an intersecption. I am a fan of the Panthers who has very little confidence in them.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
The Bengal/Steelers game was hard to watch if you were a Bengals fan. The announcers were ridiculously pro-Steelers. They kept talking about all the difficulties teams had playing the Steelers. Had the Bengals not already beat the Steelers once this year already maybe that would be appropriate but my gosh. Every other sentence started, "well, against the Steelers you have to worry about..." It wasn't until mid third quarter they even acted like the game was contested. Steelers got Obama coverage.
This was so evident during the San Fransisco 49'ers dynasty. It would take half the game of an upset before the the announcers would start worming their way over to the underdog's side, pretending they picked up on it early.
A good argument would be that media bias started in sports writing.
I watched it, and agree. Penalties all went Steelers way as well, though thet didn't ultimately effect the outcome. At least Nance and Simms aren't as bad as some on CBS- try being a Ravens fan...
If the Patriots can win, there will be but one undefeated team in the NFL. That will be as odd as the white Christmas in New Orleans and deep south, instead of the more likely Great Lakes region in 2004!
Im not a big Belichick fan. I know he's good, he just seems arrogant as all get out. Only reason I pulling for them is if they win they leave the Saints as the only undefeated team in the league .
Just kidding, I think I know where you're sincerely coming from...anyway...all company just left, I'm going to settle in a chair for a bit, relax and really watch the game...(I've been keeping an eye on it)
Trust me...it will turn around.
Then again ....I could be wrong, but doubtful.
Sure hope I don't get trounced, nevertheless, after I heard this game was on tonight, I figured it would be a danged good one, hope so, been plenty of others today, that's for sure.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I'm too tickled with Manning and team pulling this off, I can't get into anything deep about this, all I know is one of the few things I love deeply to get my mind of politics for a bit on Sunday's if football....and this was a great game I just watched.
If Rush can get over it and still go to games, or watch them, then you shouldn't deprive yourself the enjoyment of doing so yourself...besides that, I kinda do what I want anyway, no matter what others may think, including Rush.
Btw..I respect your decisions, I love your posts, we just have a difference here...happens in life.
I' too tickled after this game, I didn't think the Colts would pull it off...and they DID!!!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Very simple. Just exit off of the Tom Brady Freeway, and then make a right on No Heisman Avenue. Then drive a mile or so until you reach I Am Florida's B$#!h Drive and hang a left. Can't miss it.
Charles Woodson deserved the Heisman that year.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Kick/Punt returns, Recieve, Running back, and the best D back in College. Plus they won the NC.
As the 1997 Heisman Trophy recipient, Woodson became the first
primarily defensive player to win the award given yearly to college
football's top player. Woodson was a force to be reckoned with on both
sides of the ball, making amazingly acrobatic interceptions and
spectacular receptions. He started his second game as a true freshman
and played 34 straight 23 games before entering the pro's draft after
his junior year. Woodson second in the nation in interceptions and
voted the MVP of the Wolverines' national championship squad.
A Fremont, Ohio, native, Woodson was recognized as the 1997 Walter
Camp Player of the Year, Chevrolet Defensive Player of the Year twice,
Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year twice, the Bronko Nagurski
National Defensive Player of the Year, and the Jim Thorpe Award winner
as the top defensive back in the nation. He was a two-time All-American
and a unanimous consensus All-American selection in 1997. Woodson was a
first-round 1998 NFL Draft pick of the Oakland Raiders (fourth overall
selection).
Note the words regarding Woodson: "first primarily defensive player to win the award"
In other words, a defensive back does not win the Heisman--unless he is a once-in-a-century talent and there is not a quarterback or running back even remotely worthy of the award. Quarterbacks and running backs win the Heisman, and Peyton Manning was such an outstanding talent, gifted athlete, team leader, scholastic achiever, incredibly hard worker, as well as the quarterback with the most wins in the history of the game, that if the Heisman trophy hadn't already existed, it should have been invented especially for him.
That this magnificent performer and future #1 NFL pick was bypassed for a junior defensive back--admittedly a very good defensive back--is one of the all time travesties in sports.
And every Heisman voter who cast a ballot for Woodson or the pathetic Ryan Leaf should hang their heads in shame.
That this magnificent performer and future #1 NFL pick was bypassed for a junior defensive back--admittedly a very good defensive back--is one of the all time travesties in sports. Sorry, Jer. The Heisman Trophy is NOT given to who the voters think the #1 pick will be, or on what they think future performance will be.
Not to mention that seeing you type here, you seem to think that the Heisman should ONLY be given to offensive players. It isn't the offensive player of the year award, either.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I believe it says, "If found, please return to trophy room of Peyton Manning, the rightful owner". Pathetic. THIS is what you call SCHOOLING? Give me a break, Jer. I expect and demand better of you.
On the trophy it states something to the effect of "Given to the most outstanding college football player in the United States."
Note: NOT the best college QB.
Note: NOT the hottest NFL draft prospect.
Note: NOT the best college offensive player.
Note: NOT the player with the best prospect of going to the NFL Hall of Fame one day.
THE MOST OUTSTANDING COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE UNITED STATES.
That year, it was Charles Woodson, NOT Peyton Manning. How you think a then-choke artist who could NEVER beat his rival school could attain that trophy is beyond me.
I grudgingly admire Peyton Manning. BUT he did not deserve the Heisman. Nor did he deserve the MVP of Super Bowl XLI (which should have gone to Joseph Addai, IMHO).
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Well, I didn't have a dog in the hunt either way. I was watching the ECU-Tulsa game, but flipped over to watch the Colts try to come back once I saw they closed within a touchdown. Frankly, I'm ok with the Colts winning, but man, that was a terrible terrible call.They ought to make him fly coach back home.
Yeah, as a life-long Falcon's fan, I have seen some pretty major brain-farts on the part of more than a few coaches, but that decision to go for it on 4th down was the cake winner by far.
All of the criticism of Belichick right now that I am hearing elsewhere and seeing here to me is quite amusing.
See, if that decision worked...well, we'd all be praising his genius endlessly.
He made a gamble and lost. Such is the way in sports. Besides, Indy better enjoy it, because if they do not fix their running game, and soon, they are doomed, at some point.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Editor at Large
Comments Policy
Jake Delhomme has been
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:01 ET by ricklailJake Delhomme has been upset since Thursduy night when Jay Culter passed him for the lead in interseptions for the season. Look for Jake to regain the lead today against the Falcons. Stewart is out so he is going to have to throw the ball. Falcons 42 Panthers 10. The game is in Charlotte. Does anybody know if the Falcons bus to Charlotte or fly? It is only a four hour drive there from Atlanta. They would spend that much time in the airport.
The only games that jump out are the Colts-Patriots and Bengals-Steelers. I don't think Dallas-Green Bay will be worth the watch. Cowboys are hot, Packers are not.
Anyway the Heels play Valpirso on Fox Sports South at 4. ECU plays Tulsa tonight but don't look for high ratings going up against the Colts-Pats.
It is a good thing the college b-ball kicks off in earnest tomorrow night. There will be an alternative to the Broncos-Browns.
Only 2 more weeks left in the college regular season. I don't see anybody that can knock off Bama, Florida, or Texas. I thought Auburn might have a chance against Bama but after what the Dawgs did to them I don't feel so good about it now.
Congrats to Pitt. You may have just helped ND make the decsion to give Weiss his walking papers. Sure has shut Lou Holtz up thank goodness.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
game of the week: patriots
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 10:56 ET by 411game of the week: patriots @ colts on sunday night
game for the weak: so many but since only 1 game on monday night, ravens/browns is awful for national audience.
upset special: gave out titans last 2 weeks. this week going with 6-2 team doesn't sound like much of an upset special but when that 6-2 team is the bengals on the road against the steelers it is. BENGALS 20-16.
fantasy football wk 10
RB/411acrossamerica.com
Gotta be Colts-Patriots
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:20 ET by KC MulvilleThese days, every play is a mini-chess-match between a quarterback and a defensive coordinator. On one field, not only do we have two of the three best decision-makers (Drew Brees this year being the third), but we have two of the best defensive coordinators as well. For all intents and purposes, Belichik is the Patriots' defense coordinator, and he's likely the best.
For me, Dallas Clark of the Colts is the key. Most defensive coordinators want to take away Peyton Manning's deep receivers, especially Reggie Wayne. That means that the Colts' "underneath" game, throwing shorter passes, has to get first downs. This year, Dallas Clark has been getting first downs. If the Patriots clamp down on Dallas Clark, and limit Reggie Wayne to only a couple deep catches, Patriots win.
Have to agree
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:34 ET by nwahsI just hope is shapes up as the game of the week. I hate when a great match up turns out to be a snoozer. The Saints will see New England in 2 weeks in the Dome. I'll watch this and send my scouting report to Payton :)
What are those guys on Fox smoking
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 13:06 ET by ricklailI couldn't believe that Frank, Terry, Howie and Jimmy picked the Panthers. At first I assumed it was the Pitt Panthers. Evidently they have not been watching the Panthers I have had to endure this season. They are crappy. Last time they play Tony Gonzales had a career day. Thomas Davis the Panthers' best LB is out. Look for Gonzales to shine again today.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
Rams v. Saints
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 13:14 ET by doctorbulldogUhm, I would REALLY be crazy if I picked the last place Rams to beat the first place Saints...
So, even though I'm a Rams fan, I'm not THAT crazy---I'll pick the Saints to beat the Rams with a 30 point spread. It's a no-brainer.
Cheers
Holy Cr*p, Batman!
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 14:26 ET by doctorbulldogTied 14-14 at the Half!!!
Who would have thunk it? Of course, there is that pesky second half still to play...
Man, that was close
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 16:41 ET by nwahsAt some point, the Saints have got to start playing better. They let the Rams hang around until the LAST play. The Saints had several opportunities to put them away, but they just didn't couldn't get it done. It looked like all of them had the flu, from the coaches on down. It was a terrible game. Only thing the Saints took away from that is the W. They stunk up the place.
Ironically, this was probably Reggie Bush's best game. Show's he's out of sync with the team :)
Dave?
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 16:18 ET by BKeyserLoss to the Panthers?
I am sure I am living in
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 16:48 ET by ricklailI am sure I am living in the Twilight Zone. There is no way that should have happened. Jake didn't throw an intersecption. I am a fan of the Panthers who has very little confidence in them.
Semper suprene nitens
There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell
Rick~~
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 16:51 ET by BKeyserMaybe an apology to Frank, Terry, Howie, and Jimmy? LOL!
LOL-Sorry, BK...
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:02 ET by R D Helm...I am still crying in my beer.
Yeah, Matt Ryan has been bitten by the interception bug of late. I think his inexperience is causing him to force some passes he shouldn't be trying.
If it weren't for that missed FG and that unfortunate interception, the Falcon's would have most likely won today.
Ryan's a smart guy, and he'll get it figured out.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
Denver
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 17:27 ET by UnsaneF$#!*&G BRONCOS!!!
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns... I watched it as
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 18:31 ET by bigtimerUns...
I watched it as well, was surprising to me they lost, plus the Steelers.
...Go Cards!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
The Bengal/Steelers game was
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 18:52 ET by Ryan Mc.The Bengal/Steelers game was hard to watch if you were a Bengals fan. The announcers were ridiculously pro-Steelers. They kept talking about all the difficulties teams had playing the Steelers. Had the Bengals not already beat the Steelers once this year already maybe that would be appropriate but my gosh. Every other sentence started, "well, against the Steelers you have to worry about..." It wasn't until mid third quarter they even acted like the game was contested. Steelers got Obama coverage.
That's the primary goal of
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:09 ET by nwahsThat's the primary goal of game announcers:
#1 Appear an expert
#2 Call the game.
This was so evident during the San Fransisco 49'ers dynasty. It would take half the game of an upset before the the announcers would start worming their way over to the underdog's side, pretending they picked up on it early.
A good argument would be that media bias started in sports writing.
Ryan~~
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:19 ET by BKeyserI watched it, and agree. Penalties all went Steelers way as well, though thet didn't ultimately effect the outcome. At least Nance and Simms aren't as bad as some on CBS- try being a Ravens fan...
well as a Saints fan
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:33 ET by general companyI hate hearing how we are supposed to just roll over everyone. Saints have been having to play as hard as anyone the last 5 weeks,
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Go Pats!
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:13 ET by nwahsIf the Patriots can win, there will be but one undefeated team in the NFL. That will be as odd as the white Christmas in New Orleans and deep south, instead of the more likely Great Lakes region in 2004!
Okay, I've got company,
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:13 ET by bigtimerOkay, I've got company, have had most of the day...anybody know whose playing tonight?
Glad to see the Chargers won as well. ;-)
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Pats at Colts
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:15 ET by nwahsPatriots at Colts
Geaux Pats!
nw... Thanks! Believe
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:24 ET by bigtimernw...
Thanks!
Believe it or not, I just saw that on tv...clicked on here to say nevermind, and GO COLTS!!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Warner! Beautiful
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 19:16 ET by bigtimerWarner! Beautiful !!!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
TD Colts! 'Doubling down
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 20:54 ET by bigtimerTD Colts!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
It kills me to pull for the Pats
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:30 ET by nwahsEspecially against Peyton - New Orleans' son. But I gotta for this game. GO PATS 17-7
nwahs
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:35 ET by MrShyI'm one of the few non-Bostonians/NE'ers that likes/roots for the Pats.... Perhaps a small man crush on Tom Brady.
I'm no big fan
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:39 ET by nwahsIm not a big Belichick fan. I know he's good, he just seems arrogant as all get out. Only reason I pulling for them is if they win they leave the Saints as the only undefeated team in the league .
Hey Shy....don't get me
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:41 ET by bigtimerHey Shy....don't get me wrong...I LOVE Brady, for so many reasons...I root for them when it's a team I want them to beat...ya know what I mean?
Long story about my feelings about the Pats...it was before Brady was there...Raiders had something to do with it. ;-)
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Lol..it kills ya? Just
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:38 ET by bigtimerLol..it kills ya?
Just kidding, I think I know where you're sincerely coming from...anyway...all company just left, I'm going to settle in a chair for a bit, relax and really watch the game...(I've been keeping an eye on it)
Trust me...it will turn around.
Then again ....I could be wrong, but doubtful.
Sure hope I don't get trounced, nevertheless, after I heard this game was on tonight, I figured it would be a danged good one, hope so, been plenty of others today, that's for sure.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Oh yea
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:42 ET by nwahsOne of the best days of my life was when Eli kicked their butts in the Super Bowl :)
EDIT : Did you see him shake off that sack and throw a TD?
24-7!
Uh-Oh! ...Looks like I'm
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 21:43 ET by bigtimerUh-Oh!
...Looks like I'm in big trouble!
...again!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Thats 2 turnovers
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 22:52 ET by nwahsIN THE ENDZONE. Belichick must be going nuts.
Welllll...it's looking dim
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:34 ET by bigtimerWelllll...it's looking dim for me.
I just wished Collingsworth would shut-up. I can't stand him.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Did you know?
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 22:50 ET by HogTideRebelCatsBig T,
Did you know it was the owner of the Colts, Jim Irsay who said he would not vote to allow Rush Limbaugh to be an owner of an NFL team?
I respect you a lot because we are on the same page as Patriotic Americans.
Irsay and the Colts are the LAST team I will ever root for.
Haven't watched a single play of any team since the hyprocrocy of SharpASS, GoodHell, and Irsay, and I NEVER WILL AGAIN so help me God!!!
Your friend,
HTRC
HTRC... I'm too tickled
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:54 ET by bigtimerHTRC...
I'm too tickled with Manning and team pulling this off, I can't get into anything deep about this, all I know is one of the few things I love deeply to get my mind of politics for a bit on Sunday's if football....and this was a great game I just watched.
If Rush can get over it and still go to games, or watch them, then you shouldn't deprive yourself the enjoyment of doing so yourself...besides that, I kinda do what I want anyway, no matter what others may think, including Rush.
Btw..I respect your decisions, I love your posts, we just have a difference here...happens in life.
I' too tickled after this game, I didn't think the Colts would pull it off...and they DID!!!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
It will be a cold day in HELL
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 22:32 ET by HogTideRebelCatsI figure it will be a cold day in HELL .........
before NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell
and
NFL Players UNION head DeMaurice Smith
publically apologize to Rush Limbaugh.
Therefore, it will be a cold day in HELL before I ever watch another NFL game again in the rest of my life!!!
WooHoo...Woohoo!...Woohoo!!
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:46 ET by bigtimerWooHoo...Woohoo!...Woohoo!!
Colts did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I saw the thread title and I know who it was
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:52 ET by nwahsSee, thats why I don't like Belichick. His arrogance kills you. Unbelievable that he went on 4th down.
Congrats!
The entire Colts team needs
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:49 ET by ckc1227The entire Colts team needs to give Bill Bellacheck a hug and a huge thank you. Probably the dumbest call I have ever seen at any level of sports.
Colts/Patriots
Sun, 11/15/2009 - 23:57 ET by JerI just removed Belichek from my genius list. A lot of others probably did likewise.
Jer
Genuis works for
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 00:00 ET by bigtimerGenuis works for me...
..and all of you losers, whatever you do, don't give the Colts any credit...hehee
I want all of you to know, this is light-hearted, I'm so tickled it isn't funny...
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I'm even more tickled, bt...
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 00:05 ET by JerPut me in the winner column. I'm a HUGE Peyton "Screwed out of the Heisman" Manning fan.
Jer
How to get to Peyton Manning's house
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 09:29 ET by UnsaneVery simple. Just exit off of the Tom Brady Freeway, and then make a right on No Heisman Avenue. Then drive a mile or so until you reach I Am Florida's B$#!h Drive and hang a left. Can't miss it.
Charles Woodson deserved the Heisman that year.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane...Stick to international affairs
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 14:47 ET by JerYour sports acumen is nil.
Actually, your first paragraph is pretty clever. But your second one is the most ridiculous statement you've ever made during your NB tenure.
Jer
Jer, stick to hackery
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 18:14 ET by UnsaneAre you kidding? I think a certain blonde whose forte is college football would agree.
Why do I say Charles Woodson deserved the Heisman? Well, what does it say on the base of the Heisman? Read it. Carefully.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'll return to hackery after schooling you on college FB.
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 18:42 ET by Jer"what does it say on the base of the Heisman?"
I believe it says, "If found, please return to trophy room of Peyton Manning, the rightful owner".
Jer
Woodson was great at MI
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 19:29 ET by general companyHe beat Dallas yesterday practically single handed. 8.5 tackels, 1 int, 2 ff's.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Woodson had an outstanding
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 20:03 ET by JerWoodson had an outstanding game, and was a fine college defensive back. Nowhere near Heisman level however.
Jer
Defensive Back?
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 22:25 ET by general companyKick/Punt returns, Recieve, Running back, and the best D back in College. Plus they won the NC.
As the 1997 Heisman Trophy recipient, Woodson became the first
primarily defensive player to win the award given yearly to college
football's top player. Woodson was a force to be reckoned with on both
sides of the ball, making amazingly acrobatic interceptions and
spectacular receptions. He started his second game as a true freshman
and played 34 straight 23 games before entering the pro's draft after
his junior year. Woodson second in the nation in interceptions and
voted the MVP of the Wolverines' national championship squad.
A Fremont, Ohio, native, Woodson was recognized as the 1997 Walter
Camp Player of the Year, Chevrolet Defensive Player of the Year twice,
Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year twice, the Bronko Nagurski
National Defensive Player of the Year, and the Jim Thorpe Award winner
as the top defensive back in the nation. He was a two-time All-American
and a unanimous consensus All-American selection in 1997. Woodson was a
first-round 1998 NFL Draft pick of the Oakland Raiders (fourth overall
selection).
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Note the words regarding Woodson:
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 23:31 ET by JerNote the words regarding Woodson: "first primarily defensive player to win the award"
In other words, a defensive back does not win the Heisman--unless he is a once-in-a-century talent and there is not a quarterback or running back even remotely worthy of the award. Quarterbacks and running backs win the Heisman, and Peyton Manning was such an outstanding talent, gifted athlete, team leader, scholastic achiever, incredibly hard worker, as well as the quarterback with the most wins in the history of the game, that if the Heisman trophy hadn't already existed, it should have been invented especially for him.
Jer
What the Heisman ISN'T
Sat, 11/28/2009 - 20:34 ET by UnsaneThat this magnificent performer and future #1 NFL pick was bypassed for a junior defensive back--admittedly a very good defensive back--is one of the all time travesties in sports. Sorry, Jer. The Heisman Trophy is NOT given to who the voters think the #1 pick will be, or on what they think future performance will be.
Not to mention that seeing you type here, you seem to think that the Heisman should ONLY be given to offensive players. It isn't the offensive player of the year award, either.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Manning
Wed, 11/25/2009 - 13:30 ET by UnsaneI believe it says, "If found, please return to trophy room of Peyton Manning, the rightful owner". Pathetic. THIS is what you call SCHOOLING? Give me a break, Jer. I expect and demand better of you.
On the trophy it states something to the effect of "Given to the most outstanding college football player in the United States."
Note: NOT the best college QB.
Note: NOT the hottest NFL draft prospect.
Note: NOT the best college offensive player.
Note: NOT the player with the best prospect of going to the NFL Hall of Fame one day.
THE MOST OUTSTANDING COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE UNITED STATES.
That year, it was Charles Woodson, NOT Peyton Manning. How you think a then-choke artist who could NEVER beat his rival school could attain that trophy is beyond me.
I grudgingly admire Peyton Manning. BUT he did not deserve the Heisman. Nor did he deserve the MVP of Super Bowl XLI (which should have gone to Joseph Addai, IMHO).
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Well, I didn't have a dog
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 00:17 ET by ckc1227Well, I didn't have a dog in the hunt either way. I was watching the ECU-Tulsa game, but flipped over to watch the Colts try to come back once I saw they closed within a touchdown. Frankly, I'm ok with the Colts winning, but man, that was a terrible terrible call. They ought to make him fly coach back home.
Well, I've always believed
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 00:09 ET by ckc1227Well, I've always believed the mob controlled the NFL, lol. Maybe someone had a lot of money riding on the Colts.
LOL Jer,
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 15:09 ET by R D HelmYeah, as a life-long Falcon's fan, I have seen some pretty major brain-farts on the part of more than a few coaches, but that decision to go for it on 4th down was the cake winner by far.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
Amusing
Mon, 11/16/2009 - 18:18 ET by UnsaneAll of the criticism of Belichick right now that I am hearing elsewhere and seeing here to me is quite amusing.
See, if that decision worked...well, we'd all be praising his genius endlessly.
He made a gamble and lost. Such is the way in sports. Besides, Indy better enjoy it, because if they do not fix their running game, and soon, they are doomed, at some point.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)