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[The New Yorker's John] Cassidy is more honest than the politicians whose dishonesty he supports. "The U.S. government is making a costly and open-ended commitment," he writes. "Let's not pretend that it isn't a big deal, or that it will be self-financing, or that it will work out exactly as planned. It won't. What is really unfolding, I suspect, is the scenario that many conservatives feared. The Obama Administration ... is creating a new entitlement program, which, once established, will be virtually impossible to rescind."Why are they doing it? Because, according to Mr. Cassidy, ObamaCare serves the twin goals of "making the United States a more equitable country" and furthering the Democrats' "political calculus." In other words, the purpose is to further redistribute income by putting health care further under government control, and in the process making the middle class more dependent on government. As the party of government, Democrats will benefit over the long run.
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First there was Balboa and JasonC
November 10, 2009 - 10:19 ET by shawn228and as of yesterday shawn228 is the third lib to make it to 3 years without a banning.
"Finally, some
November 10, 2009 - 10:34 ET by notonmywatch"Finally, some honesty."
Sure. But we didn't need that, of course. They could all stay perfectly tight-lipped and we'd still know that was the purpose of Marxcare.
Also, we know there is NO altrusim in robbery, I mean "wealth redistribution". It PURELY furthers their power aims by creating dependency, as this guy freely admits.
That kind of "political calculus" as he calls it is fully ILLEGAL under the United States constitution.
Democracy does not have the right to rob from producers and give to non-producers. That is NOT the purpose of democracy. That is a form of nation-destroying weapon.
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????????
November 10, 2009 - 10:58 ET by shawn228Lol, you sure you replied to the right post? ;-)
Happy NB B'day, Shawn
November 10, 2009 - 11:06 ET by BlondeWelcome to the 3+ year club.
I hope he fails, too.
Thx B :-)
November 10, 2009 - 23:02 ET by shawn228Thx B :-) Didn't even think I would make it three weeks with our first exchange ;-)
I'm used to the Free
November 10, 2009 - 11:42 ET by notonmywatchI'm used to the Free Republic system - we click whatever reply-link is handy. But sure, I did think my comments might be interesting to you!
I don't understand how anyone can think that "lib" is a viable political point of view, given all the facts that we have available to us today.
I mean back in the 70s, when all you had was the networks, sure I can understand how you'd be a lib. But now we know how much we've been lied to, how it's nothing but a constant stream of propaganda, how they ignore important facts and just push their agenda. How anyone can see these things and still call themselves "lib" - it doesn't make any sense to me.
Who we call "libs" today are actually leftists - ruled by tribe, not issues. To be conservative is the only reasonable, people-focused politics today. The left is in bed with the really big money, trying to force totalitarian rule on America.
Conservatives want minorities to succeed, leftists want them forced into victimhood like the palestinian camps so they have a reliable voting bloc.
Anyone calling themselves "lib" have picked the wrong horse & been duped. Or they're perfectly happy with the above as some are.
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Memo to NB - Ban Shawn
November 10, 2009 - 13:29 ET by ThisnThatNB Staff -- Shawn, et al are complaing that they are getting no respect from their lefty friends at other sites. Why? Because they have no badge of honor from Newsbusters, that's why. All of their buddies have gone on to bigger and better things, and they feel that they've wasted 3 years of their lives and have nothing to show for it.
For their sake; for mercy; doggone it, for humanity -- please issue a ban. The ban can be temporary; but it must be on their record.
As for all other NBer's: When Shawn is banned, it's time to gather around a post and let him have it. Complain about his past posts; cheer the fact that he's banned; and welcome the fact that we'll never have to deal with his outrageous comments ever again.
How's that Shawn -- will that do it for ya? :-)
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Oh,,,the humanity
November 10, 2009 - 13:41 ET by general companyLet those people go, Let those people go, Let those people go, Let those people go everybody now Let those people go, Let those people go, Let those people go,
Have you now shame? : ]
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
tough crowd eh GC?
November 10, 2009 - 23:05 ET by shawn228Nice try but but that wasn't just a jet wash, it was a crash and burn. Similar to Stephen Colbert at the White House thingy.
Yeah, but you've been on
November 10, 2009 - 13:54 ET by Roger the ShrubberYeah, but you've been on double-secret probation for 2 of those years :)
Thanks for posting here.
November 10, 2009 - 18:36 ET by Carl KolchakThanks for posting here. Your posts add a lot, and you are very respectful.
why do people get banned on
November 10, 2009 - 21:54 ET by criticalthinkingwhy do people get banned on this site? certainly not for stupidity
correct
November 10, 2009 - 22:05 ET by MightyMouthOtherwise you would be history. No its usually a total meltdown.
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM... Now that was
November 10, 2009 - 22:11 ET by bigtimerMM...
Now that was funny...fitting too.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
as of yesterday shawn228 is
November 10, 2009 - 22:01 ET by Jeras of yesterday shawn228 is the third lib to make it to 3 years without a banning.
Yeah, but it took that McCain vote to save your a$$.
Jer
Semper Fi Marines!
November 10, 2009 - 10:23 ET by BKeyserToday, on the 234th birthday on the United States Marine Corps, I would like to wish all of my fellow Marines a happy and healthy birthday. Be safe, my brothers and sisters. Fight the good fight and come home as soon as you've won.
Semper Fi.
Bob Keyser, Sgt, USMC 1986-1992
BK
November 10, 2009 - 10:52 ET by ricklailI echo the happy birthday. Having 2 sons in law serving with the Marines and living so close to Cherry Point and Camp Lejuene I think there is a bit of Marine in this old Army grunt.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Happy Marine Birthday!
November 10, 2009 - 11:00 ET by SouthJersey1953From a veteran (US Navy Submarine Service, 1971-1979) to the few, the proud, the Marines: Happy Birthday!
You can fix a lot of things, but, you can't fix STUPID! - Joe Murray
~Oh la la
November 10, 2009 - 14:03 ET by choselife3xHubba hubba, Bob..
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
http://themessengerd...
Awww...
November 10, 2009 - 14:17 ET by BKeysermakin' me blush chose ;-b
~I'm sorry
November 10, 2009 - 14:37 ET by choselife3xI was overcome by the wave of testosterone emanating from the picture in the window I still have open..
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Goober Graham in bed with Soros
November 10, 2009 - 11:18 ET by ricklailFrom our friends over at Moonbattery. com come this little ditty.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
CAIR in a hissy
November 10, 2009 - 11:36 ET by ricklailFrom what I read in this article the book Muslim Mafia is touching a nerve.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
It's important to remind
November 10, 2009 - 11:50 ET by celatorIt's important to remind ourselves that CAIR has its roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, a band of full blown jihadist crackpots determined to eliminate the US and force sharia law down the throats of everyone in the world.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Ft. Hood killings
November 10, 2009 - 11:57 ET by ricklailNoboby and I mean nobody is going to change my mind over the Ft. Hood killings. I don't care how the govenment tries to cover it up, the killings were an act of Jihad. Too much pointing back to that satanist in the mosque in VA.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
and frankly i fear yet
November 10, 2009 - 12:04 ET by TruthMongerand frankly i fear yet another liberal ANTI-AMERICAN BACKLASH over this! I wish his last name had been LAROUCHE
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
→ That's right Truthie
November 10, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Cool ArrowIs this another of your crusades?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
"Partner with France".. and
November 10, 2009 - 12:19 ET by celator"Partner with France".. and get free Roquefort for the rest of your lives!! Whatta deal.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Rick...STRATFOR had an
November 10, 2009 - 12:10 ET by celatorRick...STRATFOR had an article last week, I think it was, in which they reported that some leading jihadist wrote on a jihadist website last month that now was the time for smaller operations, one-person operations, to come forth and start killing the "infidels". The guy was encouraging sleeper agents around the world to buy whatever explosive components, etc they could at drug stores, department stores, start shooting rampages, etc. I wonder if this "advice" was what triggered Hasan?
There is not the slightest doubt in my mind this was a terrorist act of jihad.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
No sweat, Holder will smooth everything over with CAIR...
November 10, 2009 - 14:09 ET by SickofLibs... when he delivers the keynote speech to them at an annual awards dinner in Michigan on Nov. 19.
Yes, that would be the same CAIR that the FBI recently severed all contact with because of their ties to terrorist organizations.
http://www.politico....
SoL... Just so precious
November 10, 2009 - 14:14 ET by bigtimerSoL...
Just so precious isn't it?
Why haven't you heard...the A-Ok CAIR creeps put out a statement that denounced Hasan etc etc...why dontcha know we are all supposed to be blinded by that...we are supposed to no longer think this is one of the most evil org. in this country, that we have not disbanded and expelled, prosecuted, jailed or fined because of PC.
This group is the enemy within...and we do zilch about it.
Infuriating.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
SEC Officiating??
November 10, 2009 - 11:46 ET by BlondeRefgate has been cracked. Now we know why there are so many idiotic replay calls by the SUC officials, um, SEC referees (I'd hate to have Slive fine me or anything).
I hope he fails, too.
Mike Slive will be throwing
November 10, 2009 - 12:44 ET by ricklailMike Slive will be throwing the flag on you and your pals over on the Gator boards. You are making him look bad. I think the crew that got suspended over the LSU-GA game can go back to work this week. You better hope they are not assigned to the SC-FL game.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
LOL, Rick
November 10, 2009 - 12:55 ET by BlondeAt this point, some in the Gator Nation are hoping for ACC refs at the SECCG!!!
Urby didn't do his Sunday thing, and the idiot reporter who asked him the (literal) $30,000 question is whining. Go figure.
Care to place any bets on how many times the Old Ball Coach tosses his visor? I had to laugh at Saban slamming his headset last week. Classic.
I hope he fails, too.
I don't think he wore the
November 10, 2009 - 12:59 ET by ricklailI don't think he wore the visor in the Vandy game. Put me down for 5 times.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Blonde
November 11, 2009 - 00:26 ET by ACWYou are the only straight woman I have ever known, who is that into football.
LOL, ACW.....
November 11, 2009 - 00:37 ET by BlondeIt's a Gator thing, I guess.
How on earth could a woman not love a team like the Gators? They are more fun than you can imagine...for a fan.
When I was in Costa Rica, there were three different sets of Gator fans I met.....one guy had a blue truck covered with Gator stickers.
What's not to love?
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
November 11, 2009 - 00:44 ET by ACWHere! Here ! You make a very convincing point.
Hats off to you.
What can I say?
November 11, 2009 - 00:48 ET by BlondeGO GATORS!!!!!
It's been a very sweet ride.
I hope he fails, too.
Get Well
November 10, 2009 - 11:48 ET by easygoerMy favorite basketball player and in my view the greatest player ever (yes, better than Jordan) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has leukemia. In addition to having the most unstoppable shot ever, he's a class guy.
What about Wilt?
November 10, 2009 - 13:18 ET by upcountrywater100 points in a game
Amazingly, Chamberlain also averaged 48.5 minutes per game-quite a feat
when you consider that an NBA game lasts only 48 minutes.
Not to
November 11, 2009 - 00:46 ET by ACWmention sleeping with 10,000 women. How did he find the time to do all that ?
I thought that was Magic Johnson???
November 11, 2009 - 00:49 ET by BlondeYou know, the dude with AIDS.
I hope he fails, too.
I think it
November 11, 2009 - 00:56 ET by ACWwas Chamberlain.
Yes its wilt the stilt...
November 11, 2009 - 01:08 ET by MightyMouthHe's been battling cancer for a year or so. As far as Johnson and the 10 thousand (sounds like a movie title?). I wonder if he remembers his first? I know I do (my first wife btw).
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Pistol Pete
November 10, 2009 - 13:56 ET by general companyThe best ever, has to be Maravich. Might not of been the best Pro, but he is still the all-time leading NCAA Division I scorer with 3,667 points scored and an average of 44.2 points per game. Keep in mind, there was no 3 point shoot in those days. He was also a quality person, and we lost him much to soon.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
→ My choice too
November 10, 2009 - 14:04 ET by Cool ArrowHe was the Dick Fosbury of basketball.
Everything fell into place for the phenomenon. Had his father not been coach, I doubt LSU would have bought into his atypical ball-handling style (now the standard in the NBA).
Why this Globetrotter style was not taken seriously until Maravich, I don't know, but he brought it into the real game.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Kareem vs. Pistol Pete
November 10, 2009 - 22:49 ET by easygoerYou forgot to add that Maravich did it in three years (as did Kareem, freshmen couldn't play varsity then). But while I love Maravich, I don't believe that any NBA GM or head coach, if they had to choose one player to start their team with, would pick Maravich over Kareem. While Maravich is statistically the greatest scorer in college history, he was the only player on very mediocre teams. He never even played in the NCAA Tournament! Kareem won the NCAA championship in all three varsity seasons. There's no doubt in my mind that had Kareem played on those LSU teams and Maravich didn't, Kareem would have scored as much, if not more, than Pistol Pete did. And would have, at least made the tournament. Likewise, I doubt UCLA would have won three championships in a row with Maravich instead of Kareem. Another example, when Kareem was a freshman he led the freshman team to a 75-60 rout of the UCLA varsity team in a scrimmage. They were no ordinary team, either. They were the defending NCAA champs and were ranked numer one at the time. He poured in 51 points in that scrimmage. Almost personally outscored the entire varsity team. Also, the NCAA banned the dunk because of Kareem.
As for their pro careers, there really is no comparison. His first season he transformed perennial patsies, the Milwaukee Bucks, from a 27-55 team to a 56-26 one. The following year they won the championship. Kareem led the league in scoring twice (Maravich once). Had a higher career scoring average (24.6 to 24.1). Had a much higher field goal percentage (55.9% to 44.1%) And, most importantly, won a record six MVP awards and six championships. Maravich won neither. Having said all that, Pete was an absolute magician with the ball. Seemed to defy physics. I rememer watching him drop in 68 points against my Knicks in 1977.Good guy, as well. As is Kareem.
Well,
November 10, 2009 - 23:28 ET by general companyActualy Pete did play his Frosh year, 17 games averaged 43 points per game. But the NCAA did not count those numbers back then.
While Maravich is statistically the greatest scorer in college history, he was the only player on very mediocre teams.
The year before he came to LSU their record was 3-20, in his last season they finished 20-8 . Out of 83 College games he scored over 50, 28 times.
There's no doubt in my mind that had Kareem played on those LSU teams
and Maravich didn't, Kareem would have scored as much, if not more,
than Pistol Pete did.
Ridiculous statement, it is easier to score with good players on your team, watch any video of Pete, he was double and tripled teamed constantly. UCLA was on another planet back then. Kareem played well above the rim, while Pete was shooting from wherever, if there was 3 point he would had averaged 60 or so, Kareem would not had improved his point total at all. Once in the Pro's, Kareems longevity and teammates help make him one of the NBA's greatest ever. Now I apreaciate what Kareem and other accomplished, I just think Pete was a little better, with a harder row to hoe.
Wierd tidbit about Pete: Maravich had told Pennsylvania reporter, Andy Nuzzo, "I don't want to play 10 years in the NBA and then die of a heart attack at 40."
Witch is exactly what he did.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GC
November 11, 2009 - 04:06 ET by easygoerI must respectfully disagree. While it's true that it is easier to score with better players around you, there was no stopping Kareem back then. He was just too big. There were hardly any seven footers back then. Certainly, none with the skill of Kareem. Why do you think they banned the dunk? You speak of no three pointers back then. That certainly kept Pete's average lower. But Pete's career shooting percentage at LSU was 43.8. He was a helluva shooter but I doubt his three point percentage would have been much higher. If the dunk wasn't disallowed, what would have been Kareem's shooting percentage on dunks, 99%? As it was his career shooting percentage at UCLA was 63.9%. Banning the dunk was probably the best thing to happen to him for it forced him to develop his skyhook. Which is the most lethal shot the game has ever seen. I've seen it happen many times. When his team really needed a basket they invariably fed it to Kareem in the low post. Even at the end of his career when he was surrounded by others who could score, like Worthy, Magic, Scott and McAdoo.
Who cares if Kareem played above the rim? Both these guys were incredibly gifted by God. One of Kareem's gifts was his height combined with agility. Other very tall men from that era, like Artis Gilmore and Bill Walton, also played above the rim and couldn't score like him. Kareem was also double and triple teamed. He should be downgraded for kicking the ball out for an open shot? For playing a team game, according to Wooden's philosophy? In addition to having a rule changed specifically for him which took away a shot he'd never miss? The name of the game is winning, not scoring gobs of points by taking every shot. Maravich was an outstanding passer and if he was double and triple teamed as much as you say (I don't doubt that he was) either his teamates were a bunch of bricklayers who couldn't hit a wide open shot or Maravich's father told him to take every shot. With Kareem on that team Press Maravich would have had Kareem taking all the shots.You also refer to how Maravich improved his team, He took a putrid team and tuned them into a mediocre one in a lily white conference. Yeah, he went 20-8 his final year but the two years prior, LSU went 13-13 and 14-12. The SEC wasn't exactly a powerhouse basketball conference back in the 1960s what with their mostly white teams. Remember all white Kentucky's (the SEC's best team back then ) loss to Texas Western.
The year prior to Kareem's joining the Varsity squad, UCLA went a disappointing (for them) 18-8. The following year with Kareem they were undefeated and won the championship. Again, it's about winning. He should be penalized for playing within the system laid out for him? There's no doubt in my mind that LSU would have been a better tteam with Kareem instead of Maravich. And there's no doubt that UCLA with Maravich instead of Kareem would not have gone a combined 88-2 with three championships. And those two losses he had a a legitimate excuse. The first loss to Elvin Hayes' Houston Cougars he had a scratch on on his cornea ansd scored only 15 points. In the rematch in the tournament UCLA destroyed Houston 101-69. The second loss to USC could be attributed to USC playing a four corners type stall game. Maravich was also not known for his defense (to put it mildly) while Kareem was an outstanding shot blocker and alterer and force in the paint. Finally, I'll stick with the point I made in my previous post. You won't find a GM, coach, scout or writer who'd take Maravich over Kareem. Maravich wasn't even the first pick in his draft. Kareem was. Only a mad man wouldn't have picked him first the year he came out. Just my two cents. Nice back and forth with you.
Well I dont agree
November 11, 2009 - 15:43 ET by general companyThere's no doubt in my mind that LSU would have been a better tteam
with Kareem instead of Maravich. And there's no doubt that UCLA with
Maravich instead of Kareem would not have gone a combined 88-2 with
three championships.
I dont believe this for a minute, if you swapped these guys, the teams would had been right about where they were.
As you say, UCLA was 18-8 the year before Kareem arrived, then they went undefeated a +8 in game won. While LSU was 3-20 before Pete, and 13-13 after, a +10 wins.
Dont get me wrong now, I think a lot of Kareem, easy in my top 10 players I enjoyed watching. But like Wilt, Shaq, and Olajuwon, they played prominently in the paint. While these guys were good, they did not display the overall prowess and ball handling as Jordan, Bird, Magic, DR J, or Pistol Pete.
But look its fine, a good argument could be made for most of the Players mentioned in this thread.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
easygoer
November 11, 2009 - 01:03 ET by MrShyThe Knicks have a history -- right up to today's game, even (see: Kobe, LeBron, Wade) -- of red-carpeting super stars into MSG to drop whatever they feel like dropping.
Pistol Pete
November 11, 2009 - 01:08 ET by MrShyI've been called Pistol Pete.
And Steve Nash.
And Larry Bird.
Three white guys. Go figure.
Pete, for my hair; Nash, for my good looks (of course); and Bird....... Bird........... okay, that was one time, and way back.
:)
Kareem is cool
November 10, 2009 - 18:33 ET by Carl KolchakI'm sorry to hear this. I read his biography in high school and really liked it. I think Magic was a little bit better than Kareem though as far as the Lakers go, but Kareem is a class guy. Don't forget he also was in "Game of Death" and put his footprint into Bruce Lee.
Carl
November 11, 2009 - 01:09 ET by MrShyAnd who can forget Airplane!
This is sad news, btw. Very cerebral, soft-spoken guy.
"And who can forget Airplane!"
November 11, 2009 - 01:13 ET by MightyMouthLOL! You're killing me Shy! :-)
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Being one month younger
November 10, 2009 - 23:52 ET by JerBeing one month younger than Kareem and one month older than Maravich (if he were still alive), and having watched both play numerous times during my college years, I will offer this opinion: Pistol Pete was the most talented college basketball player I had ever seen until Jordan [although the latter's extraordinary abilities weren't quite so apparent before his professional career], but Kareem was far more dominant than Maravich and clearly the player any NBA GM would prefer as a franchise player.
Jer
Did you see Jordan's son....
November 11, 2009 - 00:02 ET by Blonde...blew a $3 million dollar deal for his school?
Idiot.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde...
November 11, 2009 - 00:16 ET by JerNo. How so?
Jer
Jer,
November 11, 2009 - 00:51 ET by BlondeI don't have the link handy, but Michael Jordan's son violated the terms of the University (UCF?) by wearing his father's shoes....when the school had a $3 million dollar deal with Adidas.
I'll try to find it for you tomorrow....but it's real.
I hope he fails, too.
I would buy that
November 11, 2009 - 00:06 ET by general companyMany players had better numbers in the pro's, I am just stunned at how Petes NCAA records are still intack after all these years, and the great players.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Press Maravichs' son Pete---
November 11, 2009 - 01:51 ET by matthewdeanStunning array of knowledge from this group.
Informative, interesting, & impressive.
But, no mention of what is generally thought to be the most fondly remembered item about the Pistol.
Which was------------?
MD
"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
Floppy socks?
November 11, 2009 - 01:55 ET by JerFloppy socks?
Jer
Ding-Ding-Ding---Floppy socks
November 11, 2009 - 03:59 ET by matthewdeanHi there, Jer.
Good one.
Hope you are well.
MD
"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
Fort Hood Pistol
November 10, 2009 - 11:59 ET by slickwillie2001Interesting twist on the Fort Hood terrorist's choice of guns:
Thank Goodness for 'Cop Killer' Weapons: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog
"It may not come as a surprise that the media is wrong yet again, but the reason why may be surprising. Ironically, more of the wounded soldiers are possibly alive today because of Hasan’s media-hyped choice of weapons."
Thanks for the link,
November 10, 2009 - 15:29 ET by stratmanThanks for the link, slickwillie2001. I have been wondering what was used.
Also, refreshing to see an article which does not identify Hasan as "alledged" killer. Now if the general media would identify him properly as Islamic terrorist...
Isn't this just
November 10, 2009 - 12:23 ET by bigtimerIsn't this just PRECIOUS!
Has anyone else seen this and what do you think?
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I think his speechwriters
November 10, 2009 - 12:37 ET by motherbeltI think his speechwriters must already be hard at work preparing his Mother of All Apologies.
And his tailors already busy fashioning clothing of sack cloth for him and Michelle, complete with accessory bags of ashes for them to throw on their heads.....
Don't you think that we
November 10, 2009 - 12:50 ET by ricklailDon't you think that we need to apologize for the Crusades? Some of our ancestors probably participated. It was Christians trying to take the Holy Land back from his brother Muslims.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
mb.... ...and to read
November 10, 2009 - 13:17 ET by bigtimermb....
...and to read this on the day before Nov. 11th is more than insulting in my eyes.
I suppose I'd better try to look at the bright side of this...just one more peg to pin on him that will hurt his reelection/popularity polls.
He has really stuck it to the older generation in so many ways...he must think they aren't a big voting block...or everyone is just senile.
Talk about Stuck on Stupid...he shows his true colors regarding his love for this country every day.
Disgusting.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Unilateral Disarmament speech coming?
November 10, 2009 - 13:47 ET by ThisnThatUnlike the American flag, I'll bet he salutes the Japanese flag. Unlike American industry -- which he hates with a passion -- he'll tour Japanese plants and praise them. Unlike his non-attendance at the Berlin wall this week, he'll make a speech and provide photo-ops.
And totally unlike past presidents, he will use this as an opportnity to announce a unilatoral disarmament of nuclear weapons.
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"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
TnT... I bet you're
November 10, 2009 - 13:58 ET by bigtimerTnT...
I bet you're right...and I wouldn't doubt it one bit.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
BT: their sense of timing is truly unbelievable
November 10, 2009 - 13:57 ET by SickofLibsDon't they have frickkin' calendars over there?
Unless it's premeditated... nah
SoL... I truly think
November 10, 2009 - 14:01 ET by bigtimerSoL...
I truly think their hatred, and yes I do mean hatred for this country is showing more and more each day...they cannot control their contempt...hence their agenda moves forward.
Talk about sticking it in the eye to millions of us out here...despicable is putting it kindly.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Movie
November 11, 2009 - 01:01 ET by ACWHave you seen the movie "Precious " Oscar bound.
I find it funny how the
November 10, 2009 - 12:49 ET by humanzeeI find it funny how the liberal sheeple don't ever ever question their liberal overlords. Don't they find it suspicious that the people lobbying and campaigning for socialized medicine belong to the SEIU ? The whole point to unions is negotiating benefits for their members from their employers.
Are these union members sooooo nice that they are lobbying for government run healthcare for people who aren't members of their organization? Did the SEIU become the organization for government aid for everyone?
The people without health insurance aren't clamoring for socialized medicine, it's the unions. The people who already have the private healthcare, the people who are paid by their members to negotiate private healthcare benefits are the ones pushing for this.
SEIU
November 10, 2009 - 12:56 ET by ricklailWe have a recruiter here today trying to get folks to join the State Employees Assocation of NC. He asked me and I told him I wouldn't join any group that was associated with SEIU. I kept walking not wanting to start a scene.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Seeking Obama Comment
November 10, 2009 - 13:04 ET by GothampcA black male professor from Columbia University punched a white female employee in the face.
I'm waiting for Obama's comment on this.
On another note, what's up with these "ivy league" schools? Columbia has black men punching white women, black women hanging nooses, Holocaust deniers, antisemites, plagiarists
http://www.nypost.co...
→ Columbia
November 10, 2009 - 13:10 ET by Cool ArrowOf course, the white woman acted stupidly.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
When does the beer summit
November 10, 2009 - 14:57 ET by Radical1979When does the beer summit on this begin?
My daughter's best friend has committed to Columbia. She'll never survive. I'm praying my daughter gets into Villanova, they're about as least liberal a college as I could find.
Try the SEC schools
November 10, 2009 - 15:29 ET by BlondeMuch more conservative.
I hope he fails, too.
thanks Blonde. My
November 10, 2009 - 15:33 ET by Radical1979thanks Blonde. My daughter told me if she went to Villanova she might have to become a Phillies fan. Another frightening thought...
:)
I'm tired and outraged at
November 10, 2009 - 13:40 ET by ThisnThatI'm tired and outraged at opening my mail, or turning on the TV, and listening to another liberal bash private industry. Today, I received a mailing from Carol Shea Porter (NH) touting her "military connections" (more on that below). In particular, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2010.
And what does she claim she did? "I inserted language and ammendments that will: Hold reckless defense contractors accountable if their shoddy work results in the serious injury or death of our service members".
She was judge, jury, and executioner here. Note that her position is "that defense contractors are reckless". Like the insurance industry, or automotive, or banking -- industry is all evil, all the time, according to these idiots. Therefore, every bill in Congress must be punitive. I guess she is doing this because she believes everyone agrees -- private industry is the root of all evil in the United States, and if they (libs) can't kill the industry, then at least they can punish it.
BTW, she has a picture of her and 4 military troops. They are all women. No military man needs to apply. Shea porter is sexist and as dumb as a bag of rocks.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
TnT... You said it
November 10, 2009 - 13:41 ET by bigtimerTnT...
You said it all...simple as that.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Good grief..is anyone else
November 10, 2009 - 14:52 ET by bigtimerGood grief..is anyone else listening to Rush?
Using the wittle kiddies again for him to go to Copenhagen and save the planet...and all the wittle animals we are killing off with a three minute ad.
It was disgusting...like he said, they should be ashamed...but they don't know the meaning of the word.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I'm watching the services
November 10, 2009 - 15:00 ET by Radical1979I'm watching the services at Fort Hood. I like FNC because they aren't doing any talking.
Obama just came on. I didn't hear a rousing welcome, a few cheers, but underwhelming for a military base.
Miracle he didn't give a
November 10, 2009 - 15:06 ET by bigtimerMiracle he didn't give a shout out first...guess it's a good thing he has his teleprompter today.
My heart and prayers have been given ...what O says is as phony as he is.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
bt~~
November 10, 2009 - 15:19 ET by BKeyserI've been hearing that in my head all morning (no, I don't normally hear voices in my head. Stop making fun of me!! Huh? Yes. That's fine...) [Ooooo, back now. Sorry about that.]
Yeah, the Obama shout out.
"I'd like to give a shout out to all my peeps who came out today for the ceremonah! You know, just a couple years ago, who wudda thought an African-American like me wudda been invited to speak in George Bush's home state? Huh? Now there's a guy we should all be upset with, huh? Anyway, back to me..."
Was he wearing a jacket
November 10, 2009 - 15:52 ET by ricklailWas he wearing a jacket with the 1st CAV patch on it? That would have made me sick. Clinton did it one time and I was highly pissed. The 1st CAV, it was my old divsion so I am going to brag, is highly decorated. It is slam on every man and woman that served in the divsion to take those colors lightly.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Please don't
November 11, 2009 - 01:04 ET by ACWwatch televsion. There must be a more useful way to spend your time.
→ John Allen Mohammed
November 10, 2009 - 15:13 ET by Cool ArrowI'll bet the anti-death penalty crowd will be protesting today.
No? OK, this just proves they're racist and muslophobic.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Who in their right mind is
November 10, 2009 - 15:20 ET by bigtimerWho in their right mind is going to lose any sleep over this dirt-bags Execution?
With exception of family.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
→ Don't know bt
November 10, 2009 - 15:30 ET by Cool ArrowBut they show up here in Texas, every time we throw out the trash. I just figured these anti-death penalty loons actually stood for something.
Guess not.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
DC Sniper
November 10, 2009 - 15:33 ET by BKeyserOh, I don't even think the family is all that upset. Seems I just saw something recently about the wife on the book tour...
I was, at the time, "just out of range" during these killings. My son, however, was in elementary school in Montgomery County, MD where several of these shootings took place. His school was on constant lock-down.
DC Sniper
November 10, 2009 - 16:28 ET by MrShyHave they administered the juice/injection/voltage??
Shy~~
November 10, 2009 - 16:34 ET by BKeyserTonight, I think. Not sure what time. And I think it's the injection.
BK... Yep...and unless
November 10, 2009 - 16:37 ET by bigtimerBK...
Yep...and unless something else major happens I bet the msm covers it.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
9 p.m. Eastern
November 10, 2009 - 16:37 ET by Sestren_NKWhich is 7 p.m. where I'm at. Funny if you look at the guy's wikipedia page, parts of it this morning read as if he had already been executed.
OMG the military guy who
November 10, 2009 - 15:25 ET by Radical1979OMG the military guy who just gave a speech at the memorial talked about not being angry and if I remember correctly self rightous. What have they done to our military? These people are supposed to be fighters and killers. They should be angry, I'm angry, the families have to be angry. God help us.
Bamster on Hasan
November 10, 2009 - 15:41 ET by slickwillie2001Now the Bamster says that Hasan may have simply had a breakdown because of stress:
Obama on Hasan: He May Have 'Cracked' From 'Stress': http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com
This reminds me of the idiot Murtha's first explanation for Abu Ghraib. I wonder if the 9/11 hijackers perhaps also simply couldn't handled the stress of being muslims in a racist country like the USA?
Ukraine Flu
November 10, 2009 - 16:15 ET by slickwillie2001If you believe their numbers, something very odd is happening with the flu bug in the Ukraine (pop. 46m):
"The Ukrainian government now claims that over 960,000 people are now infected, over 48,000 hospitalized, and over 150 dead (likely a vast understatement). Our best estimate using our sources in epidemiology, infectious diseases, and weapons research is this .... These new strains are very infectious, and approximately one order of magnitude more virulent (dangerous) than the existing swine flu."
Is a New Strain of Flu Scorching the Ukraine? http://directorblue.blogspot.com
slick
November 10, 2009 - 16:26 ET by MrShyYikes, that is scary.....
slick... Wow...just
November 10, 2009 - 16:32 ET by bigtimerslick...
Wow...just wow.
Now this is worrisome...and like some said...why the silence...The WHO stay silent...our govt as well?
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Even Sports Illustrated
November 10, 2009 - 16:43 ET by ricklailEven Sports Illustrated is getting into the act. (Look at 10 e) What is needed is Muslim control plain and simple.I am glad I don't take their magazine. There was no call to slide in a comment like that. Is he too dumb to know that most people like me that like sports is also a avid gun owner?
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
I see Billy Jeff is
November 10, 2009 - 17:00 ET by ConservativeRexI see Billy Jeff is flapping his lousy gums again today.
I'll tell you what Clinton, you keep up with the derogatory names for us folks who are members of the Tea Party and the gloves will be off.
You like derogatory names? Get ready partner, we're fixin' to let loose with the entire arsenal. In public, just like you and your fearless leader. Tit for tat as it were. And you dumb asses will have nobody to thank for it but yourselves. I am damn tired of it. This is going to cut both ways. I suggest in the future, you democrats don't bring a turd to a knife fight.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Clinton arguing: "The reason the tea-baggers are so inflamed..."
November 10, 2009 - 17:32 ET by vrwc13Whitehouse quoted Clinton arguing: "The reason the tea-baggers are so inflamed is because we are winning."
...another apropos comment from mr. cigar himself?
v
"The point I want to make is: Just pass the bill, even if it's not exactly what you want," BJClinton
Re BJC
November 10, 2009 - 18:21 ET by slickwillie2001Again proving that President George W. Bush was right to have the Oval Office fumigated before he moved in.
On the other hand a
November 10, 2009 - 18:59 ET by RR GOPOn the other hand a complete economic and social collapse will end these entitlement programs like it or not. Hope and Change doesn't always happen in favor of the Leftists.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
~Stop me if you've heard these...
November 10, 2009 - 19:53 ET by choselife3xQ: What's the main problem with
Barack Obama jokes?
A: His followers don't think they're funny and
everyone else doesn't think they're
jokes.
Q: Why does Barack Obama oppose
the Second Amendment?
A: It stands between
him and the First.
Q: What's the
difference between Rahm Emanuel and a
carp?
A: One is a scum sucking bottom feeder
and the other is a fish.
Q: What's the
difference between Greta Van Susteren and Barack
Obama?
A: Greta only talks out of one side of
her mouth.
Q: What does Barack Obama call
lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund
raiser.
Q: What's the difference between
Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One's
full of tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to
society. The other is for prisoners.
Q:
What's the difference between a large pizza and
the typical Obama backer?
A: The pizza can
feed a family of four.
Q: If Pelosi and Obama were in a
boat and it started to sink, who would be
saved?
A: America!!
Q: What do you
call the US after four years of Obama and the
Liberal congress?
A: An
Obama-nation.
Q: What's the difference
between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler wrote his
own book.
Q: What's another difference
between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler got the
Olympics to come to his country.
Q: Why
doesn't Obama pray?
A: It's impossible to
read the teleprompter with your eyes
closed.
- Barack Obama: He has what it
takes, to take what you've got!
- Barack
Obama's campaign slogan, "Yes we can" has
become, "Yes you will!"
- No one wants to
see GM's new convertible, the Pelosi, with its
top down!
- The liberals have asked us to
give Obama time. 25 to life seems
appropriate
- Obama doesn't want
terrorists tortured. He wants to torture
American taxpayers instead.
New Barack
Channel (NBC)
Another Barack Channel
(ABC)
My Seriously New Barack Channel
(MSNBC)
A woman applying for a job in a
Florida lemon grove seemed to be far too
qualified for the job.
The foreman frowned
and said, "I have to ask you this; "Have you had
any actual experience in picking
lemons?"
"Well, as a matter of fact, I have!"
she replied. "I've been divorced three times,
owned 2 Plymouths, and I voted for Obama.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
http://themessengerd...
Choose you've made my
November 10, 2009 - 22:33 ET by Radical1979Choose you've made my night! Love 'em.
Mine too
November 10, 2009 - 23:44 ET by general companyVery funny
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Dear Choselife...
November 10, 2009 - 22:53 ET by JerRe Obama jokes
I didn't think they were funny.
Sincerely, Jer
Your post is
November 11, 2009 - 01:17 ET by ACWpubescent and humorless. Please don't continue to embarrass yourself in this manner. It is comment or your ignorance and a disservice to NB's.
Ok knuckleheads...
November 11, 2009 - 01:26 ET by MightyMouthwhich joke didn't have at least a grain of truth? And I take it you holier than thou's don't watch late night TV?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Don't watch
November 11, 2009 - 01:28 ET by ACWtelevsion, late night or otherwise.
Look ACW
November 11, 2009 - 01:40 ET by MightyMouthI don't start fights, you can ask anyone who has been here for a while (except Balboa). All I am saying is the jokes where mostly right on and contained some truth. So for you to call chose "pubescent" or whatever... was wrong. Obama is one of the funniest Presidents we have ever had!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Geez...I was just razzing
November 11, 2009 - 01:38 ET by JerGeez...I was just razzing choselife a bit. I actually thought several were pretty funny.
Jer
Yeah I could tell with the "Sincerely Jer" sig. :-)
November 11, 2009 - 01:43 ET by MightyMouthSarcasam doesn't escape me... especially since I use it on nearly every post Jer!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
What can I say, MM?
November 11, 2009 - 01:51 ET by JerWhat can I say, MM? If it's funny, I could care less if it's a D or an R getting skewered. [Except when it comes to moi, of course. I WILL NOT BE MOCKED!] ;-)
Jer
So that makes you a DR?
November 11, 2009 - 02:00 ET by MightyMouthTake a side man! You can't honestly tell me you see your country headed in the right direction?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM
November 11, 2009 - 02:26 ET by MrShyYou're asking a lib to pick a side???
What can I say Shy?
November 11, 2009 - 02:31 ET by MightyMouthI try to enlighten the unenlightened. And I don't even tell him which way to go! Just get off the fence! (that fence has got to hurt)
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
You mean I'm not allowed to
November 11, 2009 - 02:44 ET by JerYou mean I'm not allowed to laugh at both sides? I know you don't mean that. Plus, it doesn't hurt that much--except when I laugh.
Jer
Jer
November 11, 2009 - 02:48 ET by MrShySo tell me, do you laugh at both Jihadists and "Infidels"?
Humanity. Aaahh, it's all so funny.
Shy...
November 11, 2009 - 02:53 ET by JerOf course not. Do you? Why are you making a joke about something like that? That's pretty sick, Shy. I'm very surprised.
Jer
Good to know you have the
November 11, 2009 - 03:32 ET by MrShyGood to know you have the capacity to choose a side, that's all.
And what's pretty sick is, I can never tell what sides liberals are choosing. Seriously. That, my friend, is sick.
ATTENTION NB'ers: Birthday!!!!!
November 10, 2009 - 22:27 ET by BlondeLet's all get together and send out huge birthday wishes to our friend stratman, who is celebrating his birthday today!
Happy Birthday, strat.....and many, many more!
xxx ooo
I hope he fails, too.
Para bems a voce!
November 10, 2009 - 22:30 ET by Free StinkerPara bems a voce!
خال
Happy Birthday strat!
November 10, 2009 - 22:37 ET by RukusHope it was a great one! : )
Gary
Old media species: Moonbat-a-saurus-rex. Getting more endangered by the day.
Ditto strat... and many
November 10, 2009 - 22:44 ET by bigtimerDitto strat... and many more.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
LOL!
November 10, 2009 - 22:42 ET by MightyMouthOH! It's a real birthday, not an NB birthday! At first I thougth we were doing NB birthdays weekly now.. :-)
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Yes, MM....a REAL Birthday
November 10, 2009 - 23:08 ET by BlondeThankfully, you are not subject to hearing me sing. It's not a good thing, trust me.
Happy B'day strat!
I hope he fails, too.
J
November 10, 2009 - 22:51 ET by MrShyHow old is he? We need to know how old he is. How long has he been doing his thing on earth? Numbers, numbers.
And his height. I'd like that, too.
:)
EDIT: oh, and Happy Birthday!!
I have no idea how old STRATMAN is today
November 10, 2009 - 23:07 ET by BlondeNor how tall he is.
What I do know, is we're all better for his presence here.
Happy Birthday, strat!
I hope he fails, too.
Taller than the tallest
November 10, 2009 - 23:15 ET by JerTaller than the tallest tree, is he...
thatman...stratman.
And nearly as old.
Jer
So whats that
November 10, 2009 - 23:46 ET by general companyIn dog years?
Congrats Strat
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Happy B Day Strat
November 10, 2009 - 23:49 ET by shawn228You will remember this when I need free medical advice right? ;-)
Stratman---
November 11, 2009 - 01:36 ET by matthewdeanHappy Birthday !
I wish you as many more as you wish to have.
Be well.
MD
Happy Birthday
November 11, 2009 - 01:24 ET by ACWand many happy returns.
Blonde... You've Got Some 'Splaining To Do!
November 11, 2009 - 20:47 ET by stratmanLooks like Blonde threw me a surprise party and I didn't show up! (sounds about right for me)
Thank you all, my fellow NewsBusters, for your most unexpected and warmly received birthday wishes.
I'd like to thank each of you as I sit here enjoying a piece of birthday cake (an honest to goodness Hough cake from Archie's Bakery -- something fellow Clevelanders old enough to know about might find interesting).
Last, but certainly not least, I want to especially thank Blonde, my wonderful NewsBuster friend, for setting this shindig up in my honor. Heart of gold and a stilleto wit, Blonde is proof positive that thoughtful and precise, engaging and unrelenting, compassionate good souls exist.
Well, thank you all for making my birthday even more fun and memorable. Finding these posts the day after my birthday sort of stretched the celebration into another day. How often does that happen?!
I look forward to your ambush, er, I mean, surprise birthday parties here on NewsBusters.
About time you showed up!
November 11, 2009 - 21:02 ET by BlondeHappy Birthday plus One.
I hope dinner was divine and you got everything on your birthday list!
P.S. Set your alarm clock next time, K?
I hope he fails, too.
That was fast! I just
November 11, 2009 - 21:24 ET by stratmanThat was fast! I just PM'ed you about your sneaky surprise birthday party and here you already posted.
Dinner was delicious and I recieved more than I wished, including your soirée. Thank you.
Not to sound like some lame excuse, such as I got a flat tire or the dog ate my homework, but NewsBusters was acting up for me after I read your somewhat cryptic PM last night and I had difficulty maneuvering the forum (as in not at all).
As they say, better late than never. :-)